1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to All the Smoke, a production of The Black 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Effect and our Heart Radio and partnership with Showtime. Two 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: world champions. They happen to be twin brothers. Well the 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: ingredients are there. Two guys who love to sit down 5 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: to their punts and throw that firepower. I'm not scared 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: of nobody, and I'm definitely not scared of some when 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: we're talking about there's no one in the division that 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: can beat me, There's no one in the division that 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: strongest me. It would definitely deliver a statement the powers 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: for real. We would get a chance to let everyone 11 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: in the world see the great things that me and 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: my twin brother has dream for. The Sporter boxing, you know, 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: on the same card, gives us an energy. We we 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: want to be sharp, we want to be at our best. 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: We're gonna both meet in the middle of the ring 16 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: and we're gonna let our hands go. Let the best 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: man win. They are boxing and they pound for pound. 18 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back Man, season two of All the Slow. We 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: got a real special guest. What's up with your Brodie 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: with the virtual handshake. I'm gonna tell ya something that 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: I never told No back. I want to All the 22 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Smoke welcome back season two. All the smoke man, we'd 23 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: like to welcome to I think this is dope because 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I have identical twins myself, so to see 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: identical twins excelling on the biggest stage in professional boxing. 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Charlow Twins. How y'all doing. Yeah, sorry, we 27 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: appreciate you all, Man Mail and Mallah, thank you. We're excited. 28 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: We know you've got a big fight coming up on 29 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: the twenty six on showtime. Our family sold some only right, 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: we sit down with y'all. This is like Jackson, this 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: is a long overdue interview. I ran into one of 32 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: y'all this this summer in Vegas, so it's good to 33 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: find the kind of sit down and chop it up 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: with y'all. So let's get to it now. Hold on, 35 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: Hold on how you saying Mack was acting and how 36 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: in the Vegas bro man, he was acting real, real Hollywood. 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: You know that's all it was, because what was telling 38 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: what I was, jack I was sitting by the chair 39 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: by the elevators, waiting for my motherfucking kids to come down, 40 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: and who were taking forever? And I was that's how 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: you hit it on the head. I was just high 42 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: in my own little world. And then I've seen y'all 43 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: walk by him, like, damn, that's one of the Charlotte brothers, 44 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: ain't it. But I wasn't sure because y'all look kind 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: of short, so I wasn't sure. But it ended up 46 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: being so it was cool. Like I said, but yeah, man, 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, if you know me, I'm definitely 48 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: not Hollywood. I was just super high. I just beat 49 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: in my own world. Something always always, that's Matthew Born. Well, 50 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: let's get to it. You know, obviously you guys got 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: a relationship with Jack. How did that start? And Jack? 52 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: Have you ever got a chance to catch any of 53 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: their fights live? Of course, I've been to a couple 54 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: of the fights. I actually don't remember how how we met. 55 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I just know, um, I think it just became from 56 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: must being from Texas and supporting each other and talking 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: to I G I remember how we met. It was 58 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 1: one time y'all had a game. He was playing for 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: San Antonio and I was in the back, and I 60 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: think me and my brother we was like, hey, that's 61 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: where he from usting and he just like showed us 62 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: some love or whatever, and then it just always kicked 63 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: it off from the man. I don't even remember that. 64 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 1: That's how I've been a picture with you. I thought, 65 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: I thought, just because when you're especially wheny'all started coming up, 66 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, knowing y'all from Texas, I just started supporting y'all. 67 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Know I show a lot of people love on my page. 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: But then, you know, I just saw supporting y'all, and 69 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,119 Speaker 1: I saw the connection with CB Chris Brown, and that's 70 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: my little brother too, So it all became family, even 71 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: though we haven't been around each other that much, but 72 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: the support, and then the last couple of fights you had, 73 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm right the ring side supporting y'all, man, 74 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: So you know, it's just it just became family from 75 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: a distance. I definitely spotted you out in the crowd 76 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: a couple of times at the fights, you know, yeah, 77 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: even ringside ringside with us. You was nothing like Matt. 78 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: So now I'm the ask So that's crazy. Now we're 79 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: definitely gonna kick you get once y'all get through these fights, 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna get down. We're gonna see, we're gonna kick 81 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: and kicking. It would be fun to let your kids 82 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: see some older twins. I swear well, me and my 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: brother used to see older twins. It always was like 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: like wow, they get the twins get big, you know, 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: like we always Now that's because, like like I was 86 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: telling y'all before, I mean, you got you guys boxed 87 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: and fight as children. My boys go at it, uh. 88 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: And that's what I asked, because if one hurts the 89 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: other one, I don't give a funk how mad they are, 90 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna stop to see if their brothers okay. And 91 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: and that's no matter what if if I'm disciplining one 92 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: of them, the other ones me mugging me like he 93 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: wants to do something to me. If I tell the 94 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: other ones something that the one twin like, it's always 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: the connections and is incredible. And I feel like you guys, 96 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: being identical twins, I'm sure you've got this similar experience. 97 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: All right, So who raise your hand? Who's older? Because 98 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm gonna forget. I mean, I have as 99 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling my twins for reach your hand though, Okay, 100 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: that's the older one right there. And you said by 101 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 1: by one minute, one long minute, one long minute. Now 102 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: you guys have similar kind of pass uh in your 103 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: career as far as kind of being misunderstood. You know, 104 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: Jack and I were perceived as bad guys just because 105 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: we always had our teammates back and we weren't really 106 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: with the bullshit. And it kind of seems like you 107 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: guys have a similar repetition when it comes when you 108 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: let the media tell the story. Uh, what do you 109 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 1: guys think about that? I mean, it took a lot 110 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: for us to like really just you know, finally get 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 1: the media to understand that we ain't just some bad kids, 112 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They thought we was just 113 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: some bad young twins coming up in a gang and 114 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: gang of violence and all of this stuff. But we 115 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 1: really like down the Earth Warriors. But what we stand 116 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: we stand for what we stand for, and so that 117 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: that created so much you know, hatred towards towards us 118 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: and then everybody we thought we knocked out. Then after 119 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: we knocked them out, we didn't want to shake that 120 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: in and it's like, that ain't what this's about. So 121 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: we didn't look at it like a sport, like you know, 122 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: we had to turn we have to we have to 123 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: learn sportsmanship in this game. But how could you how 124 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: could you tell somebody to controler emotion? After you've just 125 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: been pump pounding on somebody bet twelve rounds like me. 126 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: I know personally after if I played the game of 127 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: basketball and somebody said the wrong thing to me, even 128 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: if I want, I ain't shaking on hand no more 129 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: for the rest of my career, Damn the game. Yeah, 130 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm not speaking none of that. It's Plex. It's Plex forever, 131 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: as long as I see you as plex, because right alone, 132 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: ain't talking all kind of messed before the fight, the 133 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: build up the fight, so we already don't want to 134 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: be cool. The next thing, you know, we knock you out. 135 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I told you, you know what I mean. 136 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: Like I've seen one press comments when you all was 137 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: talking to I think it was the last fight and 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: you just talking about like I just don't like to 139 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: do and I think that's I mean, just to keep 140 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: it real. I mean, that's the kind of ship will 141 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: be on. I mean, just that realness. And sometimes it's 142 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: misconstrued as being a bad person, but it really is 143 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: just being real. It's being who you are. And people 144 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: like the sugarcoat ship too much exactly. Growing up in Houston, 145 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 1: what got you guys into boxing was that your first sport. 146 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: Do guys play other sports? What got you guys into 147 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: up putting them gloves on? To be honest with you, man, 148 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: I boxed, um my dad. My dad had us like 149 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: you know, some some some fighters. You know. We would 150 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: fight the whole neighborhood like uh that year. Then when 151 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: we moved to Houston, it was like it was a 152 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: new outlet for us. Instead of us being like on 153 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: the street fighting each fighting other kids and fight each other, 154 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: We're not. We would just be you know, in the 155 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: boxing ring, and we took off from them at a 156 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: young age. Who had the upper hand. I was always 157 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: big Charlotte, you know what I'm saying, Like I used 158 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: to go, I was the one that Then we had 159 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: our wards, you guys. Obviously with the Texas ties with 160 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: Errol Spence, he was someone we had on the show Man. 161 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: After his accident, God blessed he was okay after that. 162 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: How did you guys connect with him? The first time? 163 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: We've been with Earl Spence for a long time. My 164 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: brother fought on the same USA team with him. I mean, 165 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: you know they fought in like tournaments and stuff, and 166 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: we fought in tournaments together. We didn't fall to each 167 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: other before, so as always was a Texas thing, you 168 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: know here around the same thing ages us. So we 169 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: always kept it like, you know, like like what's up, Homy, 170 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: what's up? Like that. Then all of a sudden we connected, 171 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, when I switched trainers from Ronnie Ships to James, 172 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: the James trained them, left and went to Dallas. And 173 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: ever since then it's been like some brothers, like you know, 174 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I've been with I've been with uh Derrek James for 175 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: five years now. I think he also mentioned how he 176 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: respected the way that you came and asked him before 177 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: you moved on to that trainer. I think that obviously 178 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: shows up what kind of character you have as a man, 179 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: and in the rules to the game, because they're going 180 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: to training one further you know, and that was Earl. 181 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: So it was like, hey, you know, you got your 182 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: own custom trainer to you. I ain't trying to steal 183 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: your style, I ain't trying to not get training. But 184 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: he go hard like, hey, I'll train with him. What's up? 185 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: You know what? The like, Yeah, go ask him when 186 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: it's up to you. You know, we made a click 187 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: from there. We've been bobbing every since May two thousand sixteen, 188 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: right after you got the twenty sixth birthday. You guys 189 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: made history. Can you guys talk to us a little 190 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: bit about that? In both of your guy's perspectuves, we 191 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: made history, you know, um, the first twins to have 192 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: the hole the belt simultaneously in the same weight division. 193 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: It was like, you know what I mean, Like it 194 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: was crazy because we both wanted to be like, I'm 195 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: the reason we made history. You know, we both competitive, 196 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: so I already had to build at middleweight, but then 197 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: my brother had to capture his his built for us 198 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: to both make world history, you know. So it was 199 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: like it was all up to you. It's all up 200 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: to you, bro, go ahead that go out there and 201 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: do your thing. You know he was, I know, but 202 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: at first he was out of the fighting. It was 203 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: a little struggle, right, you know what I mean. I'm like, 204 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: damn man, he gotta he gotta do so, you gotta 205 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: do it right now. And then they say, you know, boom, 206 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: we got the knockout. So it's like, yeah, we made history. 207 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It was yea. And what 208 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: was your perspective on the scene that you had to 209 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, you had to hold your end of the 210 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: deal up to make history. I couldn't drop the ball, 211 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: you know, and I know my brother sitting in the back, 212 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, just man, let's get this. Let's get this. 213 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: Let's get this. And you know, nobody in the boxing 214 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: world can say that they have a twin brother fighting 215 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: on the soddom same same way. We've just been doing 216 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: the thing, you know. So that was a big mark 217 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 1: for us. That was one are like milestones for sure. 218 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: That's dope. When you guys are obviously you're at each 219 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: other's fight, what kind of anxious or nervous energy or 220 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: or scared Explain your emotions when you're watching your brother 221 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: in that ring before y'all answer. You gotta people know. 222 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: You know I didn't. I didn't watch him a couple 223 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: of times, Big Brom. I'm gonna tell you what I 224 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: think when Little Bro fighting Big Bro in there, he 225 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: more on the side, like, man, do this because because 226 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: if I was in there, uh little Bro when here 227 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: watching Big Bro fight, he wanted to get in their help. 228 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: When when he thinks like Big Bro having little trouble, 229 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: he wanted to get in their help. I'm saying that's 230 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: what that's what they looked like. To me, man, I honestly, 231 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: you know, like I'm always trying to get give my 232 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,079 Speaker 1: brother some pointers and show him like you know, he 233 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: bro do this, you know, do that, but like he 234 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: so he so burned. Then I'm like, damn, I really 235 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 1: don't want to, like you know, break his confidence. But 236 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, honestly, we looked for each other's like advice 237 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: for the fight, like I fight according to like how 238 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: my brother know how I feel, you know, if you 239 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: know I'm feeling this certain way. He's just got like 240 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: this way of just telling me, you know, do this 241 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: and do that, but you know, something that his trainer 242 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: can't even do, Like my trainer can't even do. We 243 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: we've all got all like our own bond. So I'll 244 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: definitely be in there like I hyped up. I want 245 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: to fight for him, you know, like I'll be feeling like, man, 246 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm a little bro just putting me out there. I 247 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: don't I'll do the fighting for you men, just get 248 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: the money. I'll find I'll be feeling like that. Like 249 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: it's like it's like your children, Matt, they want to, 250 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: they want to, they feel it's like a It definitely 251 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: got that twin feeling all It's like, it's definitely some 252 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: twinship that's been going on. It's a different energy. I mean, 253 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: there are situations, you know, when they were little playing soccer, 254 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: one kid pushed one of the twins down. The other 255 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: twin came across the field and clothes like this little 256 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: more fucker, but they're only like four years old. Or 257 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: one time where normally twins will always get sick, but 258 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: one goes to get sick before, so one would go 259 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: to school and the other one at home all day 260 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: is worried about are you sure my brother's okay at school? 261 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: Should we call? Should we see if it's okay? Should 262 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 1: we go pick him up? Because he's probably gonna be 263 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: sick too. So I just know I get that. Like 264 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: you said, your trainer can't even read that, and it's 265 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: ship that I just from the outside, I peep. I 266 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: can't read that energy and vibe like they can't. So 267 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: it's definitely that twin connection, y'all. Guy, I can relate 268 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: because you know, my brother didn't make it, you know, 269 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: on the bus, i'd be like Dann, he just don't 270 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: know where to go. But I heard you guys. Obviously 271 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: it's similar weight classes, but I heard you guys would 272 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: never fight against each other, So do you guys spar 273 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: and if you do spark the sparking sessions like, well, 274 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: we used to spark. We don't spark no more. You know, 275 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: it was rough. It was that same feeling like if 276 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: you hit me hard, do I back off? What do 277 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: I do when you hit me hard? Like? Na, bro, 278 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: we can't be hitting each other no more because I'm 279 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: starting I'm starting out like this. You know you hit 280 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: me hard, I'm gonna I'm gonna let loosen that. Mom 281 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: always told us we don't need to be fighting. So 282 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: it's just like it's over with. It's it's a different 283 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: fight now. Don't punch is too violent? No, no, no, 284 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: Now I think about it. I think about it like 285 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: four third, fourteen, we start getting in trouble at home. 286 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: If we fought each other like over something, you know, 287 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: some simple we would we get each ouble at home. 288 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: We got another couple of fights in spatting, so it 289 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: was like, no, it's over, y'all going too hard on 290 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: each other. Who was I'll start with you, man, who 291 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: was the toughest fight up to this point in your career? 292 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: Why I feel like my toughest fight was the the 293 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: you know, the Tony Harrison fight because they had they 294 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: came in with different game plans. They moved the first fight, 295 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: you know, the first fight because in two thousand and eighteen, 296 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't developed like mentally like I am developed now. 297 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: You know. It's crazy that I only say that, but 298 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, two years make a big difference, you know. Um, 299 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: I just felt like, you know, the movement, you know, 300 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: the height, just so so many different things that I 301 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: have to adapt to in the midst of thirty six minutes, 302 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, and it wasn't something that we y'all prepared for. 303 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: And then you know, like, I don't know, man, I 304 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: feel still like I want to fight no matter what. 305 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: But you know, I pushed myself way more than he 306 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: did in the fight. That's why I feel like I wanted. 307 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I was more aggressor and stuff. But yeah, 308 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess, you know, to fight. I lost. 309 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: You know, the fight that they make more controversial than 310 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: any fight, you know, was my toughest one. What about you, 311 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: My toughest fighter was probably, uh the the I had this. 312 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: I fought against Corea both on the date my brother, 313 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: Um actually got row for his title. That was kind 314 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: of one of my toughest fights only because you know, 315 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: I was getting ready for a different softball and then 316 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: five days before the fight, he tested positive for steroids, 317 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: so they switched in this other guy that had been 318 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: already trained and getting ready for me, you know, on 319 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: the on the fly. So I would just have to 320 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: go there and make the best adjustments. But at the 321 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: same time, I had a lot going through my head 322 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: because you know, I'm like, damn, you know, they robbed 323 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: my brother with they're just trying to pull some you know, 324 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: scander ship tonight. But it is what it is. It's 325 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: one of my you know, one of my toughest fights, 326 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: but not one of the toughest fighters out of fought. 327 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: One of the toughest fighters have probably been Julian Williams undefeated. 328 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: It was another God knocked him out, but he was 329 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: just another tough dude. But that you know, came in 330 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: with a lot of heart, you know, But it is, 331 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: it is what it is. Yeah, I was about to 332 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: say that that couldn't have been a tough fight because 333 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: the night they robbed your brother, you beat the ship 334 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: out that dude. Well to the world they still thought like, 335 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: oh man, that was a close fight, because you know, 336 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: the guy landed some punches early on in the fight. 337 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: But I had to shake my head, you know, and 338 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: get my head clear, you know, just seeing my brother 339 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: lose for the first time never in my life. That 340 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: ship was kind of like, you know, it had messed 341 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: with me mentally, but I shook it off and then 342 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, then I went to destroyer. But the toughest fighter, 343 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: like I said, it had to been Julian Williams. He 344 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: talked a lot of crapshot to intimidate me, but it 345 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: only woke up the fire. You know, everybody was talking 346 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: next to me and my twin brother. We usually knocked 347 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: him out, and that was just something that I was 348 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: going for. You guys are known for knockouts. What has 349 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: been each of you? What has been your most gratifying knockout? 350 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: Mind was when I was when I knocked on Looping 351 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: in the first round. Yeah, like Achilles, ye doesn't that stuff? 352 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: And one of my favorite knockouts probably was that Julian 353 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: william knock knock out, you know, just flushing him, put 354 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: them down. But you know, like we don't never go 355 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: to the knockout. They just come so we surprised ourselves. 356 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: But that upper cut was that upper cut? It was? 357 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: It was the upper cut. Then I just flourished them 358 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: with a whole bunch of punches at the end, just 359 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: to sit them down. Talk to us obviously, because you 360 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: guys are a little over a week out from your fight. 361 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: What is your guys are training regiment your preparation. Do 362 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: you guys talk every day still? Do you guys compare camps? Like? 363 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Is it completely separate? Talk our talk to our fans 364 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: and your fans about what what a normal training camp 365 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: is like leading up to a fight. Man, the fire 366 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: lit right now, the fire lit. Me and my twin brother. 367 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: We talked to each other. We we even asked each 368 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: other what you're eating, what you're weigh what you know? 369 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: We we want to feel with each other feel at 370 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: the moment spawn everything is good right now, like honestly, Um, 371 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: the closer it gets to the fight, the better it 372 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: is for us. But you know, it is what it is. 373 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: You know, we always uh asking each other good questions 374 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: and keeping each other intact. You have to cut a 375 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: little bit more weight. Can you tell us what that's like? 376 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: Because I don't think people understand how tough that ship is. 377 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean, being a professional athlete, I didn't really have 378 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: to cut much weight. Jack walked around the same as 379 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: he did back then. What is it like having to 380 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: cut you know, ten fifteen pounds? How tough is that 381 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: to actually do? Couldn't wait us like the fight, that's 382 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: the fight for us. Once we could wait, we are 383 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: Once we could wait, we're good to go. You know 384 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So, um, the fight has already won. 385 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: And we trained hard no matter what. So uh, you know, 386 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: just having to eat smaller portions, and and then you know, 387 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: you get a little thirsty. You can't drink that. You 388 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: can't drink that same sweet juice that you used to 389 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: used to drink on the sweet tea. You gotta have 390 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: a little glass of water, and the water gotta be 391 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: half of that glass. So you don't you pour fullard glass. 392 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna down it, you know what I'm saying. So 393 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: but giving your body just the right energy and the 394 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: right nutrients that it needs at that time, that's how 395 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: we you know, that's how we cut. But it couldn't 396 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: wait't too too hard. But it's it's always a challenge. 397 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: It ain't never easy. Who got the most cars? Yeah, 398 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: I think my brother got he got more cars than me. 399 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: Cars in fashion or something you guys are both into. 400 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: Obviously money helps that, but what what what drove the 401 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: passion of fashion? Then cars? And I see one y'all 402 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: got a big gass house. I'm figuring the other one 403 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: got a big gass house too, So what drove all that? 404 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: You know? Hunger Man? Honestly man? Growing up uh with 405 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: me and my brother grew up at we really didn't 406 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: have much, you know, um, especially like when they come 407 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: to like cars and we used to watch the older 408 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: athletes them the vents in the sport. They always you know, 409 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: backed on their cars, and it was just a thing 410 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: about you know, being a boxer like you know, uh, 411 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: we like we like flashy stuff, you know, big house, 412 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: big cars, big family. They call me big Charlotte, so 413 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 1: you know that's where they go from, you know, he said, 414 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: why that's why they call you stack right, It's just 415 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to everything big in Texas, teeth included. But 416 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: go ahead, who's the better addresser of y'all too? I 417 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: know y'all both keeping keep you as She's a bet addresser, Man, 418 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: I ain't a lot to you, Like, I don't really 419 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: want to. I don't really want to. You know, take 420 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: my brother like not a better dresser than me, because 421 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: like you know, y'all try going to be missing right now, 422 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to. I just want to know some twins ship. 423 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: I just want to dress though. We both got some style. 424 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: So whenever you put on something, I'm like, all right, 425 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, I just think my brother he goes he 426 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: goes to the extreme with extreme extreme. You know. I 427 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: think like when people when we put on like ties 428 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: and soups and stuff, he can't touch me, you know, 429 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: I just I'll do him that way. But he'll come 430 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: out of nowhere with some like Kanye Urban mixed with 431 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: some you know you missed it up. I'm just what 432 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: I want to wear, you know what I'm saying. I 433 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: wear whatever I want to wear. Like you know, I'm 434 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: not really worried about like you know, you take chances. Look, 435 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: I just like the weapons that I like to wear, 436 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? My brother, you know, like 437 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: he said, he's gonna he is gonna trying to mix 438 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: it up and give you like you know, I know 439 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: he don't be comfortable in the things he's wearing, and 440 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 1: I don't like I like to wear it. I like 441 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: to wear you know, as simple as that, I really talked, 442 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: I really talked about the dress like like eleven, twelfth grade, 443 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: like he was in like um in an alternative school, 444 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: so he really wasn't dressing like yet. And then you 445 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: know I brought him to like yeah, I mean my 446 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: twin brother. You know, he back to the regular school. 447 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: That happened once. That happened one semester, one semester. I 448 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: love this. This ship sat like my house though. I 449 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: love it. Maybe if everything is a competition, I'm better 450 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: than you. Whatever is. This ship is funny. I love it. 451 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: How has it been being able to balance family life 452 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: being fathers but during a pandemic, but still training. That's 453 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: just a lot of different ship on top of a 454 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 1: lot of different ship. It's easy. You know, we both 455 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: got big cribs and so we both got gyms at 456 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: our house, and you know, I got to do it 457 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: stay away from people. So that's easy for us to do. 458 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: You know, I ain't nothing to get outside and just 459 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: get your work in be a boxer. Then my coaching, 460 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, that was the hard thing for me having 461 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: my coach come in and out of town so um 462 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 1: and not be around nobody. It was like nobody want 463 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: to catch planes and stuff. So I bought a bus, 464 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, I bought a bus travel back and forth 465 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: from from from Houston, and Dallas already had a sprinter, 466 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: but I end up buying a real pre Bots bus 467 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: so I could have a bed in there to lay down. 468 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: And that's gonna make it easier to wake up you 469 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: and Dallas go to sleep you back in Houston. It 470 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: was just easier. What about you, man, It's been easy 471 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: for me. You know. Um, I got like one of 472 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: the biggest bubbles in America. So I just you know, 473 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: stay around here at the crib. Uh, play me some 474 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 1: full club basketball whatever here go there. That's all right, 475 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: all right, that's your time basketball, right, you know what, 476 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: we smoke like. I do everything we could. I got, 477 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, a volleyball team if you want to play, 478 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like your brothers. Your brother's way, 479 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: he got game brot dunking. I'm dunking. I'm doing all 480 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: this stuff you're doing. I got a full court at 481 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: home too. I told Matt hey man, go back to 482 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: that Instagram pitch I posted, I was right there by you, Like, 483 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: you're not that much bigger than me, dude, Like I 484 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: promised like that that that that's the difference. I'm telling you, like, 485 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: it's a lot of you know, I'm strong now, you know. 486 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: He he said, He's doing everything we're doing on the court. Matt, 487 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: He said, I'm telling you the only thing I'm doing 488 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: on the court right now, smoking. I know you ain't 489 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: doing that, So you ain't doing nothing that I'm doing. 490 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: This is gonna be your first time. How do you 491 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: guys feel about not having fans? I mean, obviously, me 492 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: and Jack being former players, we knew how much energy 493 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: they brought to the arena every time, get the goose bumps. 494 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: We do it for our fans. The NBA has been 495 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: been auble to adapt with you know, you know, alternative 496 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: sounds and and and crowds from the computer. You guys 497 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: ain't gonna have that of that. How do you think 498 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be just in there, going to war with 499 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,159 Speaker 1: with with no fans? I mean, fans gonna be crazy, 500 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, not having a fans. It's just it's gonna 501 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: be different. It's gonna be like hoigh level though. You know, 502 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: I believe the fans could be a more distraction than anything. 503 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: So not having fans gonna make your i Q sharper. 504 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,239 Speaker 1: It's gonna make you your hit harder. You're gonna hear 505 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: your sound. You're gonna you're gonna, you know, you hit 506 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: that body, You're gonna want to hit it harder because whatever, 507 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: you know, they're doing a lot of they're doing a 508 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: lot of uh COVID, you know, nineteeing precautionary stuff. So 509 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: you know, I respect it, you know, so if you 510 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: want to get in there and making some money, you 511 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: gotta go in there and fight with in the depth. 512 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 1: It's part of the adversity to me. Me, it's just 513 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: like you know, um, true, remain comfortable. You know, it's 514 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 1: already uncomfortable situation, just going there. Remain comfortable. Um y'all 515 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: see Lebron, Lebron had a hard time coming back. When 516 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: he first came back um to the bubble, he wasn't 517 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: performing the same way he was used to. Like, you know, 518 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: the crowd gonna get on their feet every time he 519 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: done that. We're not we don't know right now because 520 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: we haven't fought without no fans, but we know its 521 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: fans always watching us um at all times. You know, 522 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: so any given, any given moment to fight cou change. 523 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 1: So we we gotta stay stay focused, stay z ro inn, 524 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: stay locked in. We're gonna get these dubs. We're still 525 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: gonna be supporting from a far bro. Trust, We're gonna 526 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: be locked in. Pew. You already know there. It is 527 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: self promo. Jack. You want to say anything, Jack, you 528 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: want to jump in this conversation, I have been go ahead? 529 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: Is he talking about y'all should spart each other? Bro? 530 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: I would do it. I boxed a couple of times 531 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: a week. I think it'd be dope. I'm always down 532 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: this far see saying Matt, No, I'm down to do 533 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: that too. But this is my thing, Bro, I only 534 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: have one speed and I don't want to put that. 535 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to want to expend 536 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: that on my brother, just like yeah, I only go 537 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm step for it two years old. I'm a grown man. 538 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,400 Speaker 1: I have one speed. I can't play fight. I don't 539 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: know how to. You can't work later though, you know 540 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You gotta keep your composure. Come on, 541 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: keep your composure man, I ain't got that, bro, I 542 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: ain't got being real, I ain't got it's a zero, honey, 543 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: We're going to war straight up, ain't. And I don't 544 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: have no hate in my heart for my brother, so 545 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: I can't give him that energy. That's how I feel 546 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: them all. I want to spoil my brother so bad, 547 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: but I'll just you know, I just litally want to 548 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: spar me. I promise you don't. I really want to 549 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: spoil you again. Good on you, bro, just I know 550 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: you're good, bro trainer, but when I lift my training, 551 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: I feel like I got better. But I ain't gonna 552 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's just say Stack said. Let's everybody just 553 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: say what Stack said. You. You know, Stack, you doing 554 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: a good job being a peacemaker these days. You know, 555 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: uh fight fight for injustice, and I don't want to, 556 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, go through any of that with y'all. So hey, 557 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: this is this is a different type of sport, it's 558 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: a different type of chemistream. You know, we don't share that. 559 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: I told me. I told Matcha was comedy down. He 560 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: did not believe it. I told him, No, I'm serious, No, 561 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm serious, like I'm serious, joke. I feel like you Matt, 562 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: I feel like, man like I'm down this farm. You 563 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Just keep the energy, you know, 564 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: keep it, keep it. You know, way you got a 565 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: full court. I got a full court. Let's see who 566 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: make the most threes or something. N you want to fight. 567 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: That's a whole different. You just told him I'm great, 568 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: I've been good for I'm a great doc. He mall 569 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: after the fight, you said you never put a dog 570 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: in a pin with a lion to find lines only, 571 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: and your in your mind lines only. You know, you 572 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: gotta be a survival when you step in there. You 573 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,560 Speaker 1: know it's like a real lion to go through with 574 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: me and my brother been through um. But like you know, 575 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta know how to win. You gotta 576 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: know how to prevail. You gotta know how to change 577 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: during adversity, make the best adjustments in that. And sometimes 578 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: they get away with trying to put these little dogs 579 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: in the line pin, but you know it slipped by 580 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: sometimes and they run up out of there. Though. So 581 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: to to really survive where we from and to come 582 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: through the things that we've been through, you got to 583 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: be a real line. Everyone's starting their own promotions now, 584 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: similar to what Floyda is doing. Have you guys got 585 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: any advice from him or anyone else in the process 586 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: that you gotts start on your own stuff? Like my 587 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: brother don't My brother don't really like Floyd, Like, I 588 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: don't know why my brother just keeps you know, Uh, 589 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I like Floyd Mayweather thinking you a griend. 590 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: I get advice from I get advice from you know him. 591 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 1: You know, he does a lot for us. He tell 592 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: me a lot, you know, what to do and how 593 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: to do it. There's so many fighters in the game 594 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: that want to sign with lines only they just want 595 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: to you know. But a lot of people want to 596 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: be in your shoes, and that's just what it is. 597 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't have the same fighting in them, like, 598 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: but you know, they want to be a lion. A 599 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: lot of people out there are lions. A lot of 600 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: people got that line lifestyle where they sit back a 601 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: few times and all they gotta do is just go 602 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: out there and work a little bit at Harvard. How 603 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: we are you know, we sit back, we just enjoy 604 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: the weather, and then all of sudden we get a 605 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: phone call. It's time to go. All right, it's time 606 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: to go. Live on pay per viewers were fighting. That's 607 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 1: that's a whole nother level we're turning up. So you know, 608 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: we know how to get our bodies ready for that. 609 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: We know how to train, we know how to take 610 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: it to the next level. That's all it's about. But 611 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: like I said, my brother don't like nobody in his 612 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: waight division. Do you like anybody in your weight division? 613 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get that all right, So Floyd be 614 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 1: jumping in and out of boxing, you know, alone, Leave Floyd, 615 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: I am. I left him alone. You told me leave 616 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Floyd alone, don't I am? Because I don't want it 617 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: to look like it's some cloud chasing. I don't want 618 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: to look like it's some like just a real fighter, dog. 619 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm just a real fighter. So you come back and 620 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: you're trying to fight in meg and you're fighting in 621 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: my weight like you're the living near champion in my weight. 622 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: What am I supposed to say if I'm the champion 623 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: trying to get all of the belts? I know, But 624 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about Floyd Man already he already finished done. 625 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 1: I respect, I respect he's done to the game of boxing. 626 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: Respect for boxing, said in YouTube. Now I can see 627 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: how you just be he'd be pushing the ship out 628 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: your buttons. I can see it nice and come like 629 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: nice and come to make it even matter. Like, man, 630 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: what the fund are you talking about? Come on, man, 631 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: we got bigger fights coming up. And I know I know, 632 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,479 Speaker 1: but I just want to let it be known. If 633 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: if he ever was to say, hey, you know, I 634 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: want to fight a real boxer, I'm here for I'm 635 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: here for it. That's like a fantasy matchup. Well let 636 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: it be have y'all ever fought with yourselves on the 637 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: video games? Nah? Man, they need to come back out 638 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: with Fight Night and knock Out Kings and all that. 639 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: Let's start on the video game. Mall. Let's start it. 640 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: You need to do, man, because I can't wait to 641 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: see myself on the video game. You guys have never 642 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: got that chance yet. No, man, Lion's Only Boxing. That's 643 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: the game right there, Lions Only Boxing. We're gon We're 644 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: gonn find some money for that. Do you guys have 645 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: anybody underneath the Lion's Only brand right now that that 646 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: is coming up that we need to be on the 647 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: lookout for. You guys still looking for people? Well, we're 648 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: still working on our roster. Honestly, we're still building up 649 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: our roster. And my brother got a few fighters, but 650 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: we I mean, you know, like I got a few fighters, 651 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: but um, like, like I said, we're still building them 652 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: right now. But I got an artist, My brother got 653 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: an artist. I think, you know, we got our thing going. 654 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: Who are some of the boxers you guys looked up 655 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: to growing up? Man? I was a big Roy Jones fan. Yeah, 656 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: I like running far As Chico, Diego corralis you know, 657 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: uh yeah, looking yeah holy Field. My brother liked a 658 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: lot of heavyweights. I liked a lot of people that 659 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: was like Lewis was a dope fighter like too. Then 660 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: we liked the Clisscos because they were anytime we was 661 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: like we was on on the TV. Yeah, yeah, boy too. 662 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: I like Diego Diego is my boy too. We like 663 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,959 Speaker 1: the the real brothers growing up LaMonte Peterson, any brothers, 664 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: we kind of we kind of always looked up to 665 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: the brothers in the spot. But like that's just one 666 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: of the things we did different vibe. Yeah, what about you, man? 667 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: I was a big Matthic Johnson fan. Grant Hill Um, 668 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: I was a Laker fan growing up, you know, from California. 669 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: So the showtime. Hell, yeah, you already know it's all good. 670 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what. I just wanted to know. I 671 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: just wanted to know. Yeah, I grew up you know, 672 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: like I said, I grew up a Laker fan, Magic, 673 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: Grant Hill, guys like the guys who could do a 674 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: little bit of everything on the court. You know that. 675 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: That's kind of always you know, both of y'all was 676 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: like some basketball players that was known for fighting though, 677 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: like Stacks Stacked that Indiana that Indiana fights you had 678 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: that was crazy, you know what I mean, you see right, 679 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: you see right. I was just want to say that somebody, 680 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: somebody was teaching you at the time spring training he 681 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: did you learned that in Texas you and Jermaine on us. Man, 682 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: it's going damn jail. Jail slipped on the court when 683 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: he threw that right then, or he would have knocked 684 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: that whole dude's face. Correction, Matt, he slipped and still 685 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: knocked him out. What I'm saying, if he didn't slip, 686 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: he could have been a casualty. A real life we're 687 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: leaving the real leaving the arena, mat on the bus 688 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: and we see dude on the stretcher. They carried them 689 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: out of the stretcher watching that like as a kid 690 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 1: growing up, like, damn, it's going down, because you know, 691 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: you only see that on on the in the park 692 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: at the basketball court. You see football football players, like 693 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: you don't really see basketball players getting it in. Like 694 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: it was crazy too because I was playing. I was 695 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: in Sacramento at the time, so we was just about 696 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: to leave our locker room and we all, like the 697 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: whole we made the second half start late because the 698 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: whole team and coaches was in there watching that ship 699 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: go down while we were Like I said, while we 700 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: was at halftime of our game, that ship was crazy. 701 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: When you guys listen to me, I heard when you said, 702 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: you guys rap? What are y all listening to right now? Man? 703 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm normally just keep a little smooth um. I like 704 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: Free a new album. That drop I listened to, uh 705 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: take can't be cool. Chris Brown my dog, so I'm 706 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: always rock with him. He dropped, Yeah, everything he dropped. 707 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm listening to that. So it's just like I think 708 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 1: he's our generation. Michael Jackson. Yeah, generation Michael Jackson probably 709 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: be Drake right now. You know, no, no, no, no dance, 710 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: but I know, but far as we need to drop music, 711 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: we're not talking about Drake dancing and music music wise, 712 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: Chris Brown is the guy legend alright, So I know 713 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: that was going to turn into this because you know 714 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: it turned into like this every time, like when we 715 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: talked about music. But like I said, like Chris, alright, 716 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: we alright, Stack, we know Chris Brown anything, he Kingdom 717 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: music man, he could r bro So we're in the 718 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: same click. All right, I'm always being too hard, but 719 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: you can't. You can't take nothing away from Drake, everything 720 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: Drake with all. Yeah, it's last forever. You know what 721 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can't. You can't take nothing away from Drake. 722 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 1: Like they're both holding it down for the light Skins. 723 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: So we're good on that. Yeah, but you still got 724 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: the young guys like you still got like uh he 725 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: steady dropping heat. Uh baby baby, steady dropping heat. They 726 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: pulled up for the two maybe somebody, you know what 727 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying, from what Detroit. They're doing good, Like you 728 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like young thug kind of go hard, 729 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: like young music. Who you're having from Houston, who you're 730 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: jamming from from home? Though the Lord the Killer, I've 731 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: ben listen to them. Yeah, Killer Killer always been a 732 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: cold rapper. Killer always been one of the you know, 733 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: cold rappers. That's that's in the game right now. But 734 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: from home, un I really, uh, you know, the music 735 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: is changing, man, used to music keep changing. They're going 736 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: from like you know, like you hear something code like 737 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: the Sauce Twins here and there, you know, like you know, 738 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: then you'll hear something like you know, Uhcana drop something. 739 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: Proplane is real lyrical from Houston. But like I said, 740 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Killer Killer CALLI On is like one of the he 741 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: was one of the little brand my artist, little Brent, 742 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 1: Little Brent. Y'all gonna check him out, Yeah, shout a 743 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: little brand he go hard. Who do you guys walk 744 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: out to? Who who you listen to right before a fight? 745 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: You're a particular artists, particular soul man. I'm I like 746 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: old school music before I go to a fight, like 747 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: I liked, Um, I like my classics. You know, um, 748 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: you might even hit me listening to some parts some days. 749 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 1: Just keep my you know. Um, I almost considered, almost 750 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: considered Nipsey a classic. Now you're like, you know, I 751 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: like Nipsey like it's just all all classic music. For me, 752 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,279 Speaker 1: I like to touch a rhythm, so you know, it's 753 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: all about the beat and the rhythm to me. So no, 754 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: and then there's no audience too. So i'm i'm I'm 755 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: CB straight up. I listen to music right when you 756 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 1: get you're gonna sip slip music in there, obviously not 757 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: looking ahead your next opponent, your most important opponent. But 758 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: without looking ahead, who were maybe a couple of guys 759 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: eat you would like to fight at some point already 760 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: know you already you know it's gotta be Canello, has 761 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: gotta be triple J. You know what I mean. The 762 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: skouis the limit right now. We we'll go up in class. 763 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: We'll go you know, I might let my brother take 764 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: over one sixty, I go up to sixty eight. You know, 765 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: the skies the limit coming soon. You know, you never 766 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna expect out of all of us. 767 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: Are the one fifty four right now? So my my, 768 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: my eyes on whoever got a belt right now? Um? 769 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: But like yeah, true, I gotta get we gotta get 770 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 1: to it. You want me to go to sixty, I ain't. 771 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: I can go up to six year olds now I 772 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: want you to hold it down. Yeah, I'm holding down. 773 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm holding down now. What a question with with Canello 774 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: initially signing that big old deal and obviously you know 775 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: during court right now with Golden Boy, because things aren't 776 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: smooth or a sweet as they talk to Where do 777 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: you guys think about that when you think about the 778 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: business of boxing, Boxing is real, big politics, sport, you know, 779 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 1: um Man, Unfortunately Canello going through it right now. You know, 780 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: I don't want to kick him in while you're down, 781 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: but a cross sides, bro, come back over here man, 782 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 1: you know over here in North America, Um, showtime becoming 783 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: a coming to show time. Bro. You know, you know 784 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,479 Speaker 1: you've got a good spot over here, some great fights 785 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: over here. But you know, uh, it's unfortunate that he 786 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: didn't get the chance to fulfill his deal. And you know, 787 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: they gotta go through whatever they gotta go through. But 788 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: hopefully it don't stop him from uh some big fights, 789 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, um him and go the boy going through it. 790 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he in a bad situation right now, a 791 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:45,320 Speaker 1: lot of people, but hopefully you know, you know, I 792 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,879 Speaker 1: could make some money with him and maybe he can 793 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: cash you. I would clearly clears debt something I don't 794 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: know what. What should your guys as fans expect? Uh? 795 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: Coming up with you guys, first double double headliner fight. 796 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: What's your fans expect? Man? Two wins, two wins, two knockouts. 797 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: That's gone. Hey, man out wards, we got swollen faces. 798 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: Whatever we want, I'm trying to go get it. Come 799 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: back home in the war. They want to see us 800 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: in the war. They got a war, and we got 801 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: a war. I'm gonna be kicked up in my movie room. 802 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: Two or three joints, A couple of dreams and enjoin 803 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: all of you. Can't wait. Lastly, man, what do you 804 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: guys want to be remembered as when it's all set 805 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: and done in this morning of boxing? There's been a 806 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: lot of greats, A lot of people have held titles. 807 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: What do you guys want your legacy to be in 808 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: this sport? I mean, I say big as a cliss goes, 809 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, like are bigger? You know, like we want 810 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: to be champions together, like we were in the same 811 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: weight division again. Uh, if that's possible. We just want 812 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: to be legends. Legends you know where people follow our 813 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: platform and they recognize every time they see is they're 814 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: like Dom, don't dom do Those animals? They dogs and 815 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 1: they look out for people. There was good people. You know. 816 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: We don't just want people to think we're some crazy 817 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: warriors that just walk around, you know, banging their best 818 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 1: against the pos and stuff. We want people to understand 819 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 1: that we're really serious about the sport of boxing and 820 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: we're passionate and we love We love the game, but 821 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: we love life as well and family. Legendary. Man, we're 822 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: definitely going down in the history books as um, two 823 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: of the greatest twins that ever box and put the 824 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,360 Speaker 1: laces up a pair of gloves. Um. We meet it 825 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: with passion and you know, we're passionate fighter. So you 826 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: know they get a chance to see it. They actually 827 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 1: have one good question. I know you'll probably see them, 828 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: but it's it's these two lists that are twins that 829 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 1: be on i G, that be training each other. Have 830 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: y'all seen them on I G. Yeah, we do the 831 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: same thing that what is it? The great e Twins? 832 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 1: They did great. They're gonna be good and they're gonna 833 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,439 Speaker 1: be good. Shout out to the greaty Twins. That's cool. 834 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: I've been we've been watching it for a few years. Now. Yeah, 835 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: they're gonna bead for our fans, for your fans, tell them, 836 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: tell them where they can find you upcoming and what's that? Uh? 837 00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: Where where can they find you? Tell us about your 838 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: fight and about yourself right now, Showtime pay per View, 839 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: September twenty six A double head of Jamaal Charlotte, Jamale Charlotte. Yeah, 840 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: it's the Charlotte Twins. We're back. We're coming through. Hey, y'all, 841 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: keep you a lot. We're forced to be reckoning. Now 842 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: you'll get a chance to really see what we got. 843 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: We got some great opponents and hey, let's do it. 844 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: We cut us behind the scenes. That can also cutch 845 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 1: us behind the scenes ringside with the Lions, and they 846 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: can also Uh that's on YouTube YouTube World rings Out 847 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: with the Lions on I G twin Charlotte Future of Boxing. 848 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: The next fight is coming up big next week. Six in. Man, 849 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys as time today. Uh, stay blessed 850 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: you and your families, and we're looking forward to seeing 851 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: you guys on the twenty six. Man, can't wait. Appreciate you. 852 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: Hold on and then after that we're gonna kick it. 853 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: Because you said I was acting funny in Vegas. I'm 854 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: gonna have we got to get the cupkicking. I'm gonna 855 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,879 Speaker 1: fly to us to the cupcake and we're gonna get down. 856 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: Good luck, God, blessed, appreciate man, can't stay alive. Love bro. 857 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 1: That's a wrap for the Charla Twins World Champions to 858 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: see yall next time. Two world champions. They happen to 859 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: be twin brothers. Well the ingredients are there. Two guys 860 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: who love to sit down to their puntrs and throw 861 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: that firepower. I'm not scared of nobody, and I'm definitely 862 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: not scared as when we're talking. There's no one in 863 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: the division that can beat me. There's no one in 864 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,240 Speaker 1: the division that strong as me. It would definitely deliver 865 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: a statement the powers for real. We even get a 866 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 1: chance to let everyone in the world see the great 867 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 1: things that me and my twin brother has a drunk 868 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: in the quarter box ch You know, the same card 869 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: gives us a unergy. We we want to be charged, 870 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: we want to be at our best. Yeah, we're gonna 871 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 1: both meet in the middle of the ring and we're 872 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: gonna let our hands go. Let the best men win. 873 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: They are boxing and a pound for pound. This is 874 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 1: All a Smoke. A production of The Black Effect and 875 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: Our Heart Radio in partnership with Showtime