1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Single best idea and a theme that just came to me. 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: Trust me. We wanted to go out to McKinsey or 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: Bain to consult on what the theme should be to 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: the end of the year. We didn't do that. I 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: just came into my little puny head here somewhere between 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: from the food court. Should I have the almonds or 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 2: the dried apricots and the answers I went with both 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: this morning, and with that I came up with a theme, 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: this great bullmarket. Now I'm not predicting a continued bullmarket, 11 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: but the humbling sense from December of twenty eighteen with 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: Ben Ladler's great call at HSBC get on board, buy equities, 13 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: and I'll bring it out to another crystal clear moment. 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: Autumn of two thousand twenty two were separately and for 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 2: different reasons, ed Yard Denny and ralph An Kompora the 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: legend of technical analysis. Denny and ankorpor are said, for 17 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 2: different reasons, get on board. Remember that after the pandemic 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: that in October twenty twenty two. So here we are. 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to appine in the market, but the 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 2: basic idea is talk to people informed. Waylee, is it 21 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: Blackrock Global strategists there with prodigious mathematics skills look for 22 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: her on LinkedIn. It's a reason just you know, get 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: organized on LinkedIn to look for way Lee w E 24 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: I l I waylea of black Rock on the View Forward. 25 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 2: I asked her about David Conston's report at Golden Sachs 26 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: modeling out a regression to the mean bringing single digit 27 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: returns forward from this great bull market down to an 28 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: annualized three ish low single digit percentage point. Waylee disagrees. 29 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: We actually took an inspiration from that analysis to try 30 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: to understand if the measure of concentration, which is to 31 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: look at the market cup of the biggest company versus 32 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: the seventy fifth personel and look at that racial right 33 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: by that measure, us a credit market is close to 34 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: the most concentrated in almost one hundred years, and we 35 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: try to understand, okay, that concentration does it have significant 36 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: varying on subsequent market return over twelve months, over ten years. 37 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: The verdict of that analysis, inspired by the research, a 38 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: piece of research that you're referring to, is that over 39 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: the very near term horizon, let's say, investing for twenty 40 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: twenty five, concentration doesn't have significant bearing and over the 41 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: longer term in a mean revert environment then it has 42 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: significant varying. But we're not in the mean revert environment. 43 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: So we continue to think that erniest can come through. 44 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: For next year, we're looking at high single digit return expectation, 45 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: and there is reason in the context of US exceptionalism 46 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: for US to lean more into US equities, which is 47 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: what we're doing for this outlook. 48 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 2: I can't say enough, folks, that idea of not mean 49 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: reversion sets up the arch debate forward for those of 50 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: you in the bull market or those of you seeing 51 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: this great bull market from a distance, the idea that 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: we're not going to mean revert to some lower frame 53 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: and that we're going to come in higher and then 54 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: you know what the pro say is high single digits, 55 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: low single digits, but those are huge percentage changes to 56 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: participate over two years, three years, five years, and ten years. 57 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: Way Lee of black Rock, and we continue where they're 58 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 2: here very quickly, wayly on what you don't own enough 59 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: of mag seven. 60 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: Meg seven multiple is thirty times and at the beginning 61 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty two it was thirty five times. At 62 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: the inception of chat GBT late twenty twenty three two 63 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: it was twenty five times. So it is expensive, but 64 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: it's not extremely expensive. There are good reasons earn is 65 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: momentum that supports those valuations, you know, like MI revert. 66 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: If we're talking about an index that has become more 67 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: growthy in nature over time, then the meme needs to 68 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: reflect the more growthy nature of the benchmark. So we 69 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: continue to like MAXI seven, but we have broughten out 70 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: how we play the AI theme. 71 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: Wayly of black Rock and again a greater dandem to this. 72 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: The one I think of that's equally engaged in LinkedIn 73 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: is Urine timor over at fidelity. The value of reading 74 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 2: not glancing at but reading Urine timor t I M 75 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: M E r Urine timor Fidelity and wayly of black 76 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: Rock out on LinkedIn. Folks, you'd have to pay a 77 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars fee just to have a cup of 78 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: senca with either of them. Within the reality of Global 79 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: Wall Street. 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