WEBVTT - Play-In Previews and Full NBA Awards Ballot Breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into NBA post production of iHeartRadio in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sarahustak, NBA analyst for the S Network, and today

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<v Speaker 1>is Friday, April nineteenth, and from our extraordinary core group

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<v Speaker 1>of NBA journalists were joined now by NBA dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>senior writer Michael C. Wright. And Michael, We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things going on right now. Has been a

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<v Speaker 1>good week as we have started the playing games. We

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<v Speaker 1>will have the final two playing games in the East

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<v Speaker 1>and the West taking place tonight, the early game seven

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock on ESPN between the Heat and the Bulls. At

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<v Speaker 1>nine point thirty on TNT will be the Pelicans and

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<v Speaker 1>the Kings. But this week was also the week that

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<v Speaker 1>the awards ballots were due one hundred voters. You are

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<v Speaker 1>one of those one hundred, as the finalists will be

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<v Speaker 1>announced in just a couple of days April twenty first

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<v Speaker 1>on TNT. Let's get into it because you've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>your MVP latter all season. But there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>other interesting and intriguing discussions to be had about some

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<v Speaker 1>of these awards and where things may fall. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with the MVP. You've already had your final MVP Ladder.

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<v Speaker 1>But what was your decision making going into that and

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<v Speaker 1>how challenging was it for you to fill out your ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it wasn't hard to fill out the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually for me, I mean it was Nicola Jokic MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>This would make I think the fourth year in a

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<v Speaker 2>row I voted.

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<v Speaker 3>For him for MVP.

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<v Speaker 2>Just what he's done in keeping Denver where they are,

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<v Speaker 2>and then just the fact that, like you know, last year,

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<v Speaker 2>they sort of went into the playoffs limping, stumbling, they

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<v Speaker 2>were on a little bit of a slump, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>rolling right now going into the playoffs, and he's just

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<v Speaker 2>been amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was an easy one.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the hardest for me was that number two,

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<v Speaker 2>the number two guy, And you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people are very into Luka Dacic, and you can't deny

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<v Speaker 2>what the man is done.

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<v Speaker 3>He's put up historic numbers. But I just keep going

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<v Speaker 3>back to the fact that Shake Gilders.

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<v Speaker 2>Alexander led a team that was tenth last year to

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<v Speaker 2>the number one seed, and he was very consistent, average

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<v Speaker 2>thirty plus a game. He did his thing defensively, led

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<v Speaker 2>the league in steals, and so for me, My number

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<v Speaker 2>two was shake Guild just Alexander, and then I had

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<v Speaker 2>Luka Dancis number three, followed by Giannis and then Jason Tatum.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Tatum. You could easily put Jaylen Brunson right there

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<v Speaker 2>in at fifth spot. But for me, I just couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get over the fact that Jason Tatum was the best

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<v Speaker 2>team on the best team in.

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<v Speaker 3>The league by far, so he had to go there

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<v Speaker 3>at five.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, I feel that, and I like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a voter, so I didn't have a ballot,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am glad about facts like that, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to put pen to paper or however it

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<v Speaker 1>works with it because to that point, with the Knicks

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<v Speaker 1>have done in the fact though, to me that they're

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<v Speaker 1>the number two seed, for it's a hard It's a

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<v Speaker 1>fine line of just how you want to frame it,

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<v Speaker 1>given the fact that Boston has been so far and

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<v Speaker 1>away the best team in the NBA, Tatum being the

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<v Speaker 1>best player on that team, but the compliments of the

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<v Speaker 1>roster everyone else involved. To see the Knicks get the

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<v Speaker 1>number two seed in the East is something that in

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<v Speaker 1>how instrumental Jalen Brunson has been a part of that

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<v Speaker 1>change in a driving force, and that that's where I

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<v Speaker 1>think the back end of the MVP ballot probably is

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<v Speaker 1>more challenging maybe for some Towards the top, I'm with

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<v Speaker 1>you with Shay gils A, Alexander and the number two

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<v Speaker 1>spot for as tremendous, tremendous as Luka Dancic has been,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be a fun series to watch

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<v Speaker 1>him in the Dallas Mavericks and Kyrie go against the Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>The number one spot for OKC in SGA and what

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<v Speaker 1>he's done this season, I think very much deserves that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think Jokic for most people will will be

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<v Speaker 1>the runway favorite there for another MVP Defensive Player of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year. Michael, very interested to see what you've got

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<v Speaker 1>on this one, because I think, again the dialogue discussion

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of how you frame this in terms of records,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of impact of a player or something that

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<v Speaker 1>will be talking about her, or just kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>viewpoint for each voter, who who do you have on

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<v Speaker 1>your ballot?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I had to use just simple logic here, and

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<v Speaker 2>because everybody's all about Rudy Gobert and they're saying that

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way that Victor Women and Yama should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to win the award, and that's probably true. He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna he's gonna win Rookie of the Year, that that'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a runaway. But I ended up going with Victor

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<v Speaker 2>women Yama as Defensive Player of the Year. And really

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<v Speaker 2>my argument is, switch those guys on their teams. Put

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<v Speaker 2>put Victor women Yama on the Minnesota Minnesota timberward and

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<v Speaker 2>would you do you tell me that you're telling me

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<v Speaker 2>that the Timber wasn't not gonna be better defensively. That's

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<v Speaker 2>my argument there. I think he's the most impactful defender

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<v Speaker 2>in the NBA. I mean, just over the.

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<v Speaker 3>Month of April, Victor averaged six blocks per game.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I get it that San Antonio doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>rank high defensively. I get all of that, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>just eye tests and then again.

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<v Speaker 3>Switch them. Put Rudy Gobert on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Spurs and put Victor Wimbyama on the Timber w and

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me what they look like defensively. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was it for me, And then I think, who was it?

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<v Speaker 2>But I have I had bam Adebayo at third. He

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<v Speaker 2>was really good for Miami this year. They're really gonna

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<v Speaker 2>need him tonight without Jimmy Butler in that playing game.

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<v Speaker 2>So those are my three. Argue with me if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to, but Victor's the guy for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't argue with you. But I will put a

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<v Speaker 1>little love on the name of Alex Caruso.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, he's all defensive team for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think so often we think about the dominance

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<v Speaker 1>of a big and that's something that we often, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll watch and marvel at in that is you talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that switch. I think Minnesota Timberwolves would would be

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<v Speaker 1>signing up for that in a heartbeat, especially now as

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<v Speaker 1>they're getting set for this series against the Suns. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's someone I give a little bit of love to.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that's fascinating. And again this circles back

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<v Speaker 1>to just how you frame it and what you look

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<v Speaker 1>at in terms of record. I'm sure a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>voters will say there's no way that I am voting

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<v Speaker 1>for a player for an award like that it has

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<v Speaker 1>what the worst record in the league or towards the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom one of those. However, watching him and watching his

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<v Speaker 1>progression through the season, the tracking, the timing, the understanding

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<v Speaker 1>the switch a bit. All those things you can't say.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't say enough things about him and so, and

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned Caruso. He's going to be a big question

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<v Speaker 1>mark here as the Bulls are playing the Heat obviously

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<v Speaker 1>without Jimmy Butler. But if Caruso is not playing tonight

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<v Speaker 1>for the Bulls at all, also factor in. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 1>said it runaway favorite. I don't think anyone has any

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<v Speaker 1>questions that Victor webbin Yama is the rookie of the Year.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you fill out the rest of your ballot?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's see what I got here. Oh, it was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easy. That one was easy too. I mean Victor

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<v Speaker 2>wimen Yama. Then Chet Holgren. Look, you're a defensive anchor

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<v Speaker 2>on the team. It has the first seed in the West,

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<v Speaker 2>and Chet has been.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty good all year. Put it like this, if Victor does.

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<v Speaker 2>Not come into the NBA, you take Victor out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Chet probably wins the thing. Just running away.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a question for you, and I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>to cut you off, but since you are in that circuit,

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen these teams. You obviously have been on a

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<v Speaker 1>Wombee tracker throughout the course of the year, but also

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<v Speaker 1>have seen a lot of Okay, see, was there any

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<v Speaker 1>point during the season, I know there was maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>November December jet there was some discussion of oh, could

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<v Speaker 1>Chet actually end up being Was there any point in

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<v Speaker 1>your mind that you thought he at a moment in

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<v Speaker 1>time the season had surpassed when Bin Yama for Rookie

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think Victors or where it was a question. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was early on it was Chet.

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<v Speaker 2>Chet was the guy early on because Oklahoma City sort

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<v Speaker 2>of hit the ground running and he was playing great.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you remember, like that whole first month, month

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<v Speaker 2>and a half, maybe even two months of the season,

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<v Speaker 2>the Spurs are trying to play Victor Wimenyam as a

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<v Speaker 2>as a power forward, and so around that time I

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<v Speaker 2>would say that Chet was the guy, and then Victor

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<v Speaker 2>ended up surpassing him. It was like, as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>they moved Victor Wimenyama to center, it was over because

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<v Speaker 2>it just unlocked so much with the Spurs, and he

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<v Speaker 2>could do so much and I'm talking about defending the paint,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the basket, but he could also get out

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<v Speaker 2>on the perimeter and make things happen. So to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that switch sort of just opened up It opened up

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<v Speaker 2>victor skill set essentially, and you got to see a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more so, I would say around November or so,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he passed Chet hunger and especially that second

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<v Speaker 2>matchup they had where Vic goes down the court, he

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<v Speaker 2>hits a three and then coming back he blocks checks shot,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was like the image that sealed it for

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<v Speaker 2>me right then. But anyway, Brandon Miller was my third

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<v Speaker 2>pick in that he was great with Charlotte.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was especially towards the latter half or the latter

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<v Speaker 1>part of the season and how he finished things off.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to be interesting to see some of the changes

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<v Speaker 1>new front office, new coaching changes that occur with them

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<v Speaker 1>this summer. And yeah, in terms of Wenby and Chat

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<v Speaker 1>watching their individual matchups and how competitive and how seriously

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<v Speaker 1>they took an embraced going up against one another. You

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely love that Coach of the Year. I think there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of really really deserving candidates this year

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<v Speaker 1>to be amongst a discussion what does your ballot look like?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was pretty easy too. You go from

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<v Speaker 3>tens to first, No, tensa first, it's Mark Dango. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I like that. You know the thing is too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you could have made an argument for him

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<v Speaker 2>probably each of the last two years too, because what

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<v Speaker 2>he's done as far as developed, helping to develop all

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<v Speaker 2>that young talent, and you know, the thunder when they

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<v Speaker 2>brought him in, he sort of had that reputation as

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<v Speaker 2>a developmental guy, a guy that could develop young talent,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's exactly what he's done.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was pretty easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Now when you go to second and third, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little conflicted. I liked what Joe Mizzoula

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<v Speaker 2>did in Boston because you know, last year, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>because the thought last year was that, oh, he and

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<v Speaker 2>this great team, which is sort of true. Obviously that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>but you still got to coach him. And the thing

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<v Speaker 2>is is that they you know, they sort of came

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<v Speaker 2>they were in the image of emay Udoka like that

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<v Speaker 2>last year. This year he's sort of putting more of

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<v Speaker 2>his fingerprints on everything, and I think that they have

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<v Speaker 2>really responded to the coach and you I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>could see the buy in from the Celtics and they're

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit different under Joe Mizzoula, but not in

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<v Speaker 2>a bad way.

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<v Speaker 3>They've been pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>And then third, I had to go with e May

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<v Speaker 2>had to go at email because what he did with

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<v Speaker 2>Houston it was phenomenal. And you know, you look at

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<v Speaker 2>that roster and it's sort of devoid of talent, except

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they've got some challenged young guys. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think that I May was able to get the most

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<v Speaker 2>out of them. I mean, like you started to see

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the unlocking of Jalen Green this year. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's been You've seen flashes throughout his whole career,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think you saw him better on a more

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<v Speaker 2>consistent basis. You saw him start to eliminate some of

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<v Speaker 2>the things that younger players do. Now he's still not there,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think with e May, there's a sense that

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<v Speaker 2>he's going to get there, and there's a sense that

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<v Speaker 2>Houston is right.

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<v Speaker 3>On the verge of turning things around.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not agree with you more on all of

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<v Speaker 1>those things, and especially with Emay Yudoka and that Houston team,

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<v Speaker 1>which for a while we thought they might have a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to be in the play in which was shocking

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<v Speaker 1>to think about that turnaround. However, this is where I

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<v Speaker 1>think in terms of filling out the ballot and Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Dagnall you're spot on. I think that's an incredible story too.

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<v Speaker 1>For as much as we talk about the importance of

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<v Speaker 1>the G League and just home growing, if that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you want to term it, so many players the development

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<v Speaker 1>of that. That's the story of Dagnalton, what he did

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<v Speaker 1>with the Oklahoma City Blue team and just how he

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<v Speaker 1>was a part of their G League team. They saw

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<v Speaker 1>what he was doing with that part of the organization

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<v Speaker 1>and then making that jump. But he may Udoka still

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<v Speaker 1>that's a team that's not in the playoffs. Jamal mostly

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<v Speaker 1>and what he did, and then in the fifth seed

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Finch, like Minnesota, we thought the Timberwolves and go

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<v Speaker 1>Bear in Karl Anthony Towns were never gonna work together,

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<v Speaker 1>and just the season that they they had and put

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<v Speaker 1>together that they were amongst the top one, two three

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<v Speaker 1>of the Western Conference and very well could have finished

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<v Speaker 1>in the top of the conference. I would put his

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<v Speaker 1>name in it. So that's why I think there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot of candidates, unlike your ballad,

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<v Speaker 1>but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think Jamal though.

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Jamal would have been my number two. That might

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<v Speaker 1>have been Jamal would have been my number two.

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been a little bit of an oversight

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<v Speaker 2>for me there because Jamal, like what he's done with

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<v Speaker 2>the Magic and not like he has sort of transformed

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<v Speaker 2>like sort of like May did in Houston, he sort

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<v Speaker 2>of transformed the culture there. Like those guys are dogs

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<v Speaker 2>on defense, yes, and not only that, they they have

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<v Speaker 2>this mentality where they all play for one another.

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<v Speaker 3>Like they have not been the.

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<v Speaker 2>Greatest offensive team, but they are so scrappy on defense

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<v Speaker 2>that they they they're gonna be in pretty much every

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<v Speaker 2>game they play. And that's Jamal Moseley. Yeah, that's an

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<v Speaker 2>oversight on my part because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, but you said, but you framed exactly. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the culture shift and we often use those terms, but

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<v Speaker 1>everything about their team and how they play is a

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<v Speaker 1>part of what he's instilled since getting there. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't say say enough good things about just

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<v Speaker 1>the identity that they now play with and playing for

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<v Speaker 1>each other, all of those things so impressed with And

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be gonna be interesting to see. That's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting four or five matchup between them and the Cleveland Cavaliers,

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<v Speaker 1>who bigger staff and that group trying to hold things together.

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<v Speaker 1>We get a lot of fun series to come and

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more awards to see what your ballot looks

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<v Speaker 1>like to come. We're gonna take a quick break and

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<v Speaker 1>get to six Man and Most Improved Player right after.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to NBA Postercustak joined by the great Michael C. Wrights.

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<v Speaker 1>Ballance were due this week. The finalists will be announced

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<v Speaker 1>on April twenty first on TNT. For many of the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA awards, UH six Man of the Year. Michael, who

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<v Speaker 1>do you have on this?

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<v Speaker 3>That one was a little harder.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that one was harder, but I ended

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<v Speaker 2>up going with Maleigue Monk and Sacramento.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, okay, they could use them, Yeah, they use

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<v Speaker 1>them right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure could, they sure could right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But Nazri was second, and then Bagan Bogdanovich because like,

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<v Speaker 2>just if you look at the the I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>analytics and the box score stuff, he's sort of right.

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<v Speaker 3>There for me.

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<v Speaker 2>But Maleague Monk, I just like what he did this

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<v Speaker 2>year with the Kings, I mean he was invaluable to them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they, like you said, they really need him tonight

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<v Speaker 2>because this is a huge game for them, and like.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they're on the verge.

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<v Speaker 2>If this happens, if the Pelicans end up beating the

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<v Speaker 2>Kings tonight. Do you realize it'll be the first time

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<v Speaker 2>since like nineteen ninety four that one team beat another

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<v Speaker 2>one six times in one season because they knew because

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<v Speaker 2>they played for a regular season games and then they

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<v Speaker 2>play once in the play oh with the season tournament

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<v Speaker 2>in the quarterfinals.

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<v Speaker 3>So they are five and zero against the Kings. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say in regards to that, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a hard time thinking that the Kings won't be able

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<v Speaker 1>to put together a win against the Pelicans without Zion tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's been such a major factor. However, you

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<v Speaker 1>say that, and the Pelicans spent a decent amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time the season playing without Zion, and if they start

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<v Speaker 1>putt putting the pieces together, yeah, that's crazy. And to

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<v Speaker 1>think about the Kings being a two seed last year

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<v Speaker 1>and then not even properly making the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>So honestly, I'd like to see him make it again though,

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<v Speaker 2>like two years in a row. That would be nice

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<v Speaker 2>to see the Kings make it two years in a row,

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<v Speaker 2>and like.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be a fun mess Deer and Fox and

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<v Speaker 1>again shake Gildes Alexander, Like there's there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>fun matchups within a matchup and Sibonis his size and

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<v Speaker 1>big on the inside. That's an area for Oklahoma City,

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<v Speaker 1>they mister, I think that'd be that'd be a relatively

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<v Speaker 1>interesting series. Okay, what about what about our last one?

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<v Speaker 1>Most Improved Player? I feel like this one always there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of gray area of age, second, third

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<v Speaker 1>year players, four kids? Should you be improving? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>the natural progress or you're just getting more usage and

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<v Speaker 1>that's why the numbers and the production has gone up.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of ways to look at it. So

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<v Speaker 1>what does your ballot look like? And kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>do you view you the way in what you frame

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<v Speaker 1>this award.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that the way I look at it has

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<v Speaker 2>sort of changed over the years because I think I

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<v Speaker 2>made a mistake a couple of years ago. It might

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<v Speaker 2>have been last year voting John morint Is is most

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<v Speaker 2>improved Player because he came into the league, is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the you know, top picks. He was supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be that, so that I fel like I made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>It was between his first to second year, Like it

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<v Speaker 1>was it his second year that you voted this or

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<v Speaker 1>won it? Third year he won it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that was was it last season? I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was last season.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that it would have been last season, so probably is.

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<v Speaker 2>But I felt like I made I felt like I

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<v Speaker 2>made a mistake there because the hike was there. You

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<v Speaker 2>knew he was going to be what he is, and

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<v Speaker 2>so that was a mistake on my part. See I

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<v Speaker 2>admit my mistakes right here on.

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<v Speaker 3>This podcast to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But this year, I'm not sure I made a mistake.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was sort of hands down Tyrese Maxie.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw Kobe White the other night. I saw he did,

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<v Speaker 2>he dropped the high forty two, played his butt off.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tyrese Maxy all year long, he's been sort of

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<v Speaker 2>the guy that has really made the Sixers go, especially

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<v Speaker 2>with Joelle and b missing some time, they really needed

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<v Speaker 2>him to sort of up his production and we've seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>He was my number one, and you'll probably be surprised

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<v Speaker 2>my second one, but I went with Jalen Williams in ok.

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<v Speaker 3>See oh okay, yeah, yeah, well he was my number two. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>he was my number two because.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I love Jalen Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>He's great.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna give you a consistent eighteen nineteen a night.

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<v Speaker 2>H Maybe double digit rebounds. The kid can play. But

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<v Speaker 2>then number three, I went with Kobe Waite, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just he's doubled. Well, he's more than double his points

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<v Speaker 2>per game from last year, just playing well like last

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<v Speaker 2>or the other night. He had that forty two points,

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<v Speaker 2>but the most important number was he had zero turnovers.

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<v Speaker 3>That was you for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I so the thing I'll say, And I love Jalen Williams,

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<v Speaker 1>a huge fan, and I'm fascinated to watch how this

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<v Speaker 1>entire team. I think just their first taste of the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs is going to be interesting. But I think for

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<v Speaker 1>as much attention as a SGA is gonna get, he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a big part of that. That's though,

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<v Speaker 1>where I would refer to it being his second year,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of an interesting balance of Okay, is

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<v Speaker 1>this a natural jump, but he feels to have a

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<v Speaker 1>unnatural jump, Kobe White, I'm with you on that. The

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he's done this now and it is fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a bulls team too, that a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>disjointed parts, the los Zack Lavine trying to put piece

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<v Speaker 1>things together. I know, no one is that excited about

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to you know, be a nine seed and

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<v Speaker 1>still continue to get in through the play in. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I think just what he's put together and even the

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<v Speaker 1>other nine has been something special with you on Tyres

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<v Speaker 1>MAXI I know Cam Thomas, the Brooklyn Nets has had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot to say about most improved

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<v Speaker 1>player he is he is. But I think that's where

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<v Speaker 1>for voters. One record factors in to how it impacts winning,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, and three just the natural progression of that's

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<v Speaker 1>where I go back to, you know, what does it

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<v Speaker 1>mean in terms of just getting more shots, a higher

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<v Speaker 1>volume of shots, more usage. How that factors and so Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and to your original question or point about John Moran's

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<v Speaker 1>uh lowry markin and won last year and Jah won

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<v Speaker 1>the year. Okay, okay, big thanks to our great producer

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Peter Kowder for yeah, good job, Peter, uh clutch

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<v Speaker 1>got Steph Curry, you know the.

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<v Speaker 3>Cooker you already knew that.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely Steph, and he's sort of been the bright spot

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<v Speaker 2>for what's been just an uncharacteristically I wouldn't say ugly,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's just been.

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<v Speaker 3>A really tough season for them.

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<v Speaker 2>And let's be real about it, Draymond Green has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to do with that, just just the suspensions and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. I mean, you think about the games

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<v Speaker 2>he missed and what the Warriors record was when he

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<v Speaker 2>missed the you know, the games he missed, and that

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<v Speaker 2>may be the difference between them actually being in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs as opposed to fighting for a playing spot. So

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was rough, and he was like one

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<v Speaker 2>of the bright spots. And then some of those young

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<v Speaker 2>guys too that are starting and starting to mature and

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<v Speaker 2>show that they might be some serious contributors here in

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<v Speaker 2>the future for them.

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<v Speaker 3>But Steph was definitely the clutch guy for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I had DeMar Derozen and that was a tough

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<v Speaker 2>one because you're looking at again, you know, you were

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<v Speaker 2>just discussing it records and stuff like that, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Bulls obviously are fighting for that playing spot, but they've

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<v Speaker 2>had a ton of injuries and like you were saying,

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<v Speaker 2>they were just trying to move around the parts, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what was gonna work best. But then

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<v Speaker 2>number three for me was actually Shay Gilg just Alexander.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, he's been clutched this year and obviously, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said before, when I make the argument for him

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<v Speaker 2>for MVP.

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<v Speaker 3>You go from tenth c to the first seed. That's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty clutch.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, he actually had to make some things happen

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<v Speaker 2>in clutch situations. And sometimes you got to really define

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<v Speaker 2>what clutch is. And I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>just say clutch is in the word clutch, but technically

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, any game within five points in the

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<v Speaker 2>last five minutes. Yeah, right, And so all three of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys have really, you know, really kind of stood

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<v Speaker 2>out in those clutch situations. And I'm not talking about

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<v Speaker 2>just clutch the word. I'm talking about the true definition

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<v Speaker 2>of it as it pertains to the NBA and game.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was that was the way I went, How would.

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<v Speaker 1>You go on that curry for the win? That's all

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Yeah, everything after that, I don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>know anything. Michael, thank you for unveiling your ballot. We

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, We appreciate hearing from you, and we'll continue

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy these first round of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll do I'll be all over the place, so it'll

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<v Speaker 3>be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We know it.

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<v Speaker 3>We know it.

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