WEBVTT - Kitchen Tools & Pantry Items 

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, welcome to Always Hungry from My Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Bobby Flay and I'm here with my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter and co host. I'm Sophie Flay, and I'm Always Hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>Sophie and I gathered around my stove to cook together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you cook, I asked the questions, and eat the food.

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<v Speaker 1>If does any food left, we come to the table

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<v Speaker 1>together to share a meal, connect as a family, and

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<v Speaker 1>tell the stories that matter to us. So today we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about essential kitchen tools and also pantry items. And

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about this because I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to cook something out of your Bobby at Home cookbook,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to cook. I told you I failed on the muffins.

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<v Speaker 1>But I noticed in here which I hadn't noticed before

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<v Speaker 1>because I've made, I've made somethings. Out here was Bobby's

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<v Speaker 1>essential pantry and equipment. And you really give such a

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<v Speaker 1>great list of what you should have in your pantry

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<v Speaker 1>and what equipment you should have to set yourself up

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<v Speaker 1>for success. So, because I knew we were doing this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast today on this particular subject, I literally went around

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<v Speaker 1>my kitchen a little while ago and I just wrote

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<v Speaker 1>down what I have not everything. But what do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to start with your equipment? I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about equipment. So basically, UM have like a little container

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<v Speaker 1>right next to my stove that I called my hand

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<v Speaker 1>tools or the things that I go to most that

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<v Speaker 1>I that I use when I'm at the stove. So

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<v Speaker 1>like a rubber spatula, a metal spatula, a wooden spoon,

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<v Speaker 1>a zester. Yeah I don't have a zester. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>should get one. And then a couple of whisks of

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<v Speaker 1>different sizes, some tongs both long and short, very important.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I have some brushes if if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>glaze something, you know, I don't have any brushes ladles

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<v Speaker 1>in case I want to, like I don't know, pasta

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<v Speaker 1>water into the pan so to speak. Um, I have

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<v Speaker 1>something called a spider you know what that is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like a big like a basically like a big spoon

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<v Speaker 1>strainer sort of thing. It's round and it has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of holes in it so you can actually take

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<v Speaker 1>something solid out of something liquid and the liquid will

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the pot. Right yeah yeah, And then um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a meat thermometer. I don't have one of those. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what you should get to meet them. Roometer

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of people say, how do you know

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<v Speaker 1>when it's done? Well, check check you know, I meat

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<v Speaker 1>thermometer is important. Um. And then like then I have

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<v Speaker 1>a host of things. I want me to read some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things I have. So I have a citrus juicer,

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<v Speaker 1>like a hand citrus juice used to squeeze like lemon

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<v Speaker 1>and limes juice basically, Um, Christina, there's some pasta pots

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<v Speaker 1>and desk here if you want it, okay, And then um,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a mallet. Do you know what that's for?

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<v Speaker 1>You have to pound like chicken breast or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're making milonnaise or chicken cutlets or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a cheese grater, a box grater if you

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<v Speaker 1>want a great cheese of course, a potato peeler. I

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<v Speaker 1>have lots of different sizes of mixing bowls. Yeah, see,

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<v Speaker 1>I have like three any more than that. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>have measuring measuring cups, both for liquid and for dry.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have measuring cups, and then I have measuring spoons,

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<v Speaker 1>you know for like baking, but also measuring cups for

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<v Speaker 1>like liquid measure Okay, and then uh, I have a

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<v Speaker 1>colander to strain things out and then some other strainers

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<v Speaker 1>that are finer, you know, if there's like smaller particles

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to sort of get rid of, then

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<v Speaker 1>then like pants, pots and pans. Definitely, I definitely have

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<v Speaker 1>my cast iron pans. I use you use those two.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my cast iron pan. Yeah, those should you

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to have those forever. Then I also

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<v Speaker 1>have stainless steel pans. But then I also have my

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<v Speaker 1>green pans, which are uh, nonstick, and I love them

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<v Speaker 1>because they go in the dishwasher and you can also

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<v Speaker 1>see in them. It's the one pan that I found

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<v Speaker 1>where it's non stick and you can get it hot

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<v Speaker 1>hot enough that they can see see her at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, It's very hard to find a pan like that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>cutting boards, so I like cutting on wood, especially when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm cutting vegetables, onions and things like that. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I also have plastic ones for like meats and fish. Okay. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I have oh, I have these plastic cord containers

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<v Speaker 1>that I get from restaurants supply house. You get them

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<v Speaker 1>on Amazon, and those are good for leftovers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because because the plastic cord containers, you should just you

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<v Speaker 1>should go on Amazon just buy a bunch of them

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<v Speaker 1>because you can never have enough for those things. Then

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<v Speaker 1>of course I need a roasting pan or two with

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<v Speaker 1>a rack, so I can roast a chicken or a

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<v Speaker 1>roast or a turkey what have you. Um, I have

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<v Speaker 1>one or two stock pots so I can make big

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<v Speaker 1>things of chicken soup so to speak, every seven to

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<v Speaker 1>ten days exactly. I have some sheet trays, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>I used she trees a lot. I used she trays

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of like, especially if I'm doing a dinner

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<v Speaker 1>party or a lunch party, I UM like, I'll I'll

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<v Speaker 1>put you know, different preparations on different sheet trays to

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<v Speaker 1>keep them, to keep them in lime. And I also like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna bake biscuits, I need a shoot tray or

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<v Speaker 1>make chocolate or something like that. So this is a

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<v Speaker 1>really good example of how do you use something, how

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<v Speaker 1>to make something right out of your pantry, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't make it to the store snowstorm, or you're just

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<v Speaker 1>lazy and hungover whatever it is like, and you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want I'm hungry, and you know what can

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<v Speaker 1>I what can I make from out of my pantry? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna make pasta, putanesca which actually is translated as

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<v Speaker 1>um in pasta in the style of prostitutes. Puttanesca is yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's The stories are like varied as to how it

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<v Speaker 1>became part of that one of it. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>stories I read was that they would make this dish

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<v Speaker 1>because it was had such strong because it has anchovies

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<v Speaker 1>and capers and garlic, et cetera, and olives, and it

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<v Speaker 1>would lore like the like the men to the to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the brothels what. I don't believe it, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's called possible, and who knows what the story is.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a classic Southern Italian dish. It's so good. Um. So, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do is we're gonna start with some

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<v Speaker 1>garlic and crushed garlic. So we have garlic, we have anchovies,

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<v Speaker 1>we have tomato sauce, we have crushed red pepper capers,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we have we have some herbs, and then

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<v Speaker 1>to put some basil the bag, you know, and parsley

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<v Speaker 1>in it, and then some some palmers and cheese. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a good dish. Are you hungry? So hungry? This

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<v Speaker 1>is a you know, it's really flavorable. But what's really

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<v Speaker 1>great is, you know, you have all these things that

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<v Speaker 1>are basically coming out of your pantry, you know, Aunt Showby's,

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<v Speaker 1>the capers. They always hopefully have some garlic in the

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<v Speaker 1>refrigerator or on top of your counter, which I always do.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, a good quality Jared tomato sauce

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<v Speaker 1>or some can tomatoes make you make your own sauce

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<v Speaker 1>to you. Yeah, today, I'm usings. I always have a

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<v Speaker 1>good quality tomato sauce in my just in case. I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you never know who's gonna come over here exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I usually have it for you because when you

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<v Speaker 1>like like show up unannounced, um, and you're like, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hungry, it's like all right here of course. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I have some things that a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>might not have. I have like a tortilla press because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make tortillas. Although I'd like one of those, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're cheap and it's cool to make your

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<v Speaker 1>own tortillas. Well, you need some massa herrena and some

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<v Speaker 1>water and you can make your tortillas. They're not easy

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And frankly, I've been cooking Southwestern food and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Mexican inspired food for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not great at it because there are people that

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<v Speaker 1>do it every single day and they're sleep Those people

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<v Speaker 1>were good. Um. I have a pasta machine, so I

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<v Speaker 1>have pasta attachments that I actually, Um, you can have

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<v Speaker 1>like a a hand cracked pasta machine, which are the

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<v Speaker 1>classic ones. But I also have attachments for my kitchen aid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I think you've seen me do that before.

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<v Speaker 1>I also have a good expressive machine, very important for

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<v Speaker 1>me to to get both through the day. Then I

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<v Speaker 1>have criswellas, which are these earthenware sort of these brown

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<v Speaker 1>earthenware dishes around that you'll see like in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of Mexican and Spanish cooking, lots of Latin cuisines. And

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<v Speaker 1>I use them for for for kitchen from oven to

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<v Speaker 1>table cooking, you know, roasting mushrooms, roasting shrimp, roasting. You're

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<v Speaker 1>usually using them in your pizza oven though, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>can put them in any of it. Absolutely, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Um that I have a muffin tin to

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<v Speaker 1>make muffins or the other day I made those morning

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<v Speaker 1>buns from tarteen. Do you ever make cupcakes? Never? I've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen a cupcake and I'm not a cupcake fan.

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<v Speaker 1>A cupcake. There's only one good part of the cupcake,

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<v Speaker 1>the topping. A kind of garden said to me that cupcakes,

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<v Speaker 1>like the bottom of the cupcake is just the vehicle

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<v Speaker 1>for the top. She's right, that's face facts, all right. Anyway, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking on your equipment list here in your book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a ramkin. What's a ramican? So a ramican is

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<v Speaker 1>like a round little porcelain um, not a bowl. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's like strange and that's what it was. So like

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that I think about most is it makes

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<v Speaker 1>su flames in them, right, you know exactly. I just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know that's what it was called. Um. Spice grinder. Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually a good point. It's a it's a coffee grinder,

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<v Speaker 1>like for coffee greens, coffee greens, coffee, coffee beans. I

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<v Speaker 1>use it to grind spices so like black peppercorns, like

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<v Speaker 1>literally your coffee grinder. I have to. I have one

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<v Speaker 1>for coffee and one for spices. Um, you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>it mixed up because then your coffee is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>very spicy, which could be cool to wait wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>digital scale? Do I really need that? You need a

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<v Speaker 1>scale if you're gonna bake because basically, instead of like

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<v Speaker 1>good bakers will tell you that you can't measure cups,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to weigh grahams. It drives me a little crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm not a baker. So but when I'm making now,

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<v Speaker 1>when I make pizza dough, I weigh it. You do

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<v Speaker 1>do what? I also take temperature of the air and

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<v Speaker 1>the flour. Are you serious? Oh my god? Yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting well because the guy who owns Rotsa, Dan Rickert,

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<v Speaker 1>told me, like took me through it. He's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>this is science. This isn't like you know, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>pancake batter. Yeah, that's really interesting. Yeah, I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>it this weekend. Um, okay, So then I'm sorry, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just have questions about this. I don't have I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have these things. A deep fried thermometer and an

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<v Speaker 1>instant read thermometer are different. They are you can you can,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. But the deep fried ones. The thing. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the deep fried ones is that it actually

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<v Speaker 1>it's you can. You can. You can submerge it the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing in the in the oil and it will

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<v Speaker 1>actually attach to the pot that you're cooking, that you're

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<v Speaker 1>heating the oil up in so you can watch it rise.

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<v Speaker 1>A a instant read thermometer, you just kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>you probe whatever the meat is and then it tells you,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the next few seconds, what the temperature is. So,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they do somewhat the same thing, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are different. I don't have a food processor. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>write this down seriously. I need to know what to

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<v Speaker 1>get you for certain holidays, like your birthday. Great food processor.

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<v Speaker 1>For my birthday, listen, I bought you an this Presso machine.

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<v Speaker 1>You were thrilled because I love Like, do I really

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<v Speaker 1>need a food press food processor if I have a blender? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they're very different. Just think about it for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>A blender is incredibly powerful from the bottom up, and

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<v Speaker 1>a food processor will actually cut and mix things in

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<v Speaker 1>a circle. It does things very differently. Sometimes a blender

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<v Speaker 1>is too powerful for something you want a food process microplane.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what it's called a microplane. Yeah, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was used for something else and then somebody figured out

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<v Speaker 1>that it made It made a better zester than the

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<v Speaker 1>zesters that we used to use. Got it, Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now we can move on to pantry. Okay, So here's

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I have in my pantry. So I

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<v Speaker 1>have a couple of different olive oil. I've a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of different oils. I have extra virgin olive oil, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have cooking oils like canola oil for instance, something

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<v Speaker 1>light canola or vegetable oils, and and basically the extra

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<v Speaker 1>virgin olive oil I don't. I don't usually heat up

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<v Speaker 1>very often because you can get really bitter very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>I usually finished things with it. It's almost like a

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<v Speaker 1>sauce because it's so it's so pungent in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>flavor and um, it's it's got such a rich, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thick texture to it, and you don't I think

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<v Speaker 1>when you add heat to it, I think it loses

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<v Speaker 1>its properties. So I use something that has a higher

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<v Speaker 1>smoke point, a lighter oil like canola or vegetable oil,

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<v Speaker 1>peanut oil, something along those lines to cook with. I

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<v Speaker 1>also use a ton of honey. Am I cooking not

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<v Speaker 1>to make things sweet, but to make I mean to

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of balance out the big flavors that I use. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I use coach of salt and sea salt. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>grab I cracked my own black pepper, So I always

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<v Speaker 1>have a big bowl of crack black pepper or ground

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<v Speaker 1>black pepper. I use the season everything. But what's the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between black peppercorns and white peppercorns other than obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the color the whole, Like do they taste different? They

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<v Speaker 1>do taste different white pepper, yes, um, yeah, they definitely don't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I find how do you describe the flavor? Like why

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<v Speaker 1>would you choose to use one over the other? They

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<v Speaker 1>have different flavors. I mean, black pepper tastes to me

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<v Speaker 1>like what peppers supposed to taste like. White pepper is

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<v Speaker 1>peppery as well, but it almost has like a what's

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to describe this, almost like a like

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<v Speaker 1>a like an earthier flavor. I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>like the flavor of white pepper. One of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really into is sexion on peppercorns, and they give

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<v Speaker 1>like they give you like a tingle on your tongue.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna make a session one peppercorn hot sauce

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<v Speaker 1>tacos with it. I don't know why anybody hasn't done

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<v Speaker 1>that yet. We don't tell anyone about that. That could

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<v Speaker 1>be like a new business whatever. I mean, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>secrets in the world, alright. So then um, then I

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<v Speaker 1>have like, uh, you know, then I have different things

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<v Speaker 1>in my pantry, so lots of different kind of vinegars,

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<v Speaker 1>balsamic vinegar, cider vinegar, rice wine vinegar, red wine vinegar,

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<v Speaker 1>white wine vinegar. Yeah, I have some of these, you do, right, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>vinegars are great to have around, yeah, definitely. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I have you know, I have I have a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, different bottles of Asian ingredients, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's you know, soy sauce of course, and tomari

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<v Speaker 1>which is a gluten free soy sauce tomori. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I have sesame oil delicious, you know, rice wine, vinegar.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I have like some thaie things like um red curry,

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<v Speaker 1>green curry paste, some coconut some coconut milk, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and cans. Yeah, I always have um red curry paste

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<v Speaker 1>in my cabinets, right. And then I have some sweeteners

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<v Speaker 1>things like a gove molasses don't even I don't, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's but it's in there. I have a gove of molasses.

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<v Speaker 1>I have you know, of course, honey maple syrup by

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<v Speaker 1>pomegranum molasses. Here's my new favorite one date date nectar,

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<v Speaker 1>date molasses so good for what I use it for,

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<v Speaker 1>like glazes, and it's really good in like like smoothies,

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<v Speaker 1>like a date ching so good. Yeah good. It's good

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<v Speaker 1>in dressings as well, delicious. And then of course, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have some olives of course, capers, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then mustard's like whole grain dijon. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have yellow mustard in case somebody wants a hot dog.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you making hot dogs? Not exactly? And then

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<v Speaker 1>um yeah, and then I actually sometimes I have like

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<v Speaker 1>corse rashed mustard or honey mustard in there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we're gonna start by cooking the garlic.

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<v Speaker 1>Just starts hanging it really quickly an showbies. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to brown the garlic. Put the tomato saus right

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<v Speaker 1>over it, and showbies are one of the great things

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Has so much flavor and not enough

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<v Speaker 1>people use them. Yeah, right now we have the little

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<v Speaker 1>olive oil, garlic ant shobies, tomato sauce. Well, put some

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<v Speaker 1>capers in there as well, the pressure at pepper. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just cook in the sauce. We'll cooking spaghetti, you know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we use something. Yeah, let's saghetti younie. I've never made

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<v Speaker 1>this before. It's like everything I love, Yeah, exactly, lots

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<v Speaker 1>of salty flavors. We'll chop up some green olives. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a Sicilian olvas olives, which makes sense for this dish.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's really a Southern Italian dish. Some olives in there,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of bathe and the tomato sauce with

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<v Speaker 1>the anchovies and the garlic, and then we have some

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<v Speaker 1>fresh herbs. We're gonna add the fresh erbs at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>so we have parsley, we have some fresh oregano and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of basil, and then of course it's

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<v Speaker 1>like baking, you know, baking powder, baking soda. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's so easy once you have like

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<v Speaker 1>every everything on this list or the list that you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to read, But like if you don't have one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so stressful. Like half the time when I don't

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<v Speaker 1>have like baking powder, I'm like, should I just drive

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<v Speaker 1>to Dads and go get like cook it, like a

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<v Speaker 1>cop of it. I think it's so annoying. You just

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like if you have like five or six

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<v Speaker 1>things stocked in your pantry for baking like you're good

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<v Speaker 1>to go, like some of the times, Well, the problem

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<v Speaker 1>here is like this happened to me the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>This this pantry. My pantry is so well stocked all

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<v Speaker 1>the time that I always feel like I have everything,

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<v Speaker 1>except the other day you wanted to come over for

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<v Speaker 1>brunch and you wanted waffles, and then I looked. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, I don't have any baking powder.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, Christina got me some baking powder. But

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't realize I didn't have any baking powder.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not sitting around doing inventory right but I should.

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<v Speaker 1>And then like different kinds of flowers, like all purpose

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<v Speaker 1>flower for all purpose things, you know, bread, flour for

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<v Speaker 1>different kinds of you know, cakes, etcetera. Then there's almond flower,

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<v Speaker 1>semolina flower to make some pastas or things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>massa harina to make tortillas. I have Wonder Flower, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like it's a brand actually, but it's basically steamed flour.

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<v Speaker 1>The flowers already cooked, so it's good to if you're

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<v Speaker 1>breading something and you don't want it to be you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want the flower to be clumping up on straw.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonder Flower like melts very easily. You have stone ground

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<v Speaker 1>corn meal on here. Yeah, corn meal corn meal is

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<v Speaker 1>really great because you can you can crust like fish

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<v Speaker 1>or chicken in corn meal, so you can have a

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<v Speaker 1>cornmeal crusted fish. Um. Obviously you can make corn bread,

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<v Speaker 1>you can make cornmeal waffles. I'm a I'm a huge

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<v Speaker 1>cormeal fan. I love it. UM. Sometimes I have blue

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<v Speaker 1>corn meal too, which will it's just it's which is

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<v Speaker 1>a little softer, but it's got a great nutty flavor

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<v Speaker 1>to it. Um. Then different kinds of sugars. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you you need gratulated sugar, but then you

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<v Speaker 1>know brown sugar, light dark. You know, the darker the sugar,

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<v Speaker 1>the more sort of molasses flavor it's going to have. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, of course I have chili peppers everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pods literally like literally dried chilies, Antio Chili's,

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<v Speaker 1>cascabell chili, chili's chili powders. And then of course there's

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<v Speaker 1>a spice rack, you know, and that's a whole other thing,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you know, you know, it's important to keep

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<v Speaker 1>your your dried spices like kind of up to date,

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<v Speaker 1>like they don't last forever. You know after a year

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<v Speaker 1>or so, like it's time that we've we plenish them.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're not cheap, so it's like it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a pain. But the bottom line is if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>use these spices and I and and like, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>need every spice ever made, right, But like so sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I see like online, Like I was thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>the other day, I don't have like a real spice rack,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I just have some random spices that I bought,

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<v Speaker 1>like for different recipes and whatnot. Like is there a

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<v Speaker 1>good place to go get spices? Like should I just

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<v Speaker 1>order like a spice rack online of like where do

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<v Speaker 1>you get your spices? I buy them in bulk and

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<v Speaker 1>then put them in containers. Okay, so yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily need to do that. You don't need to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>but you want, But I'm not. I'm never going to

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<v Speaker 1>run through spices like you you want to go to

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<v Speaker 1>a place that sells spices a lot because you want

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that that's a spice store. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea spice store in my area. There's a place,

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<v Speaker 1>well there's a place called in New York City called Calusians,

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<v Speaker 1>which is an Indian spice store there and it's an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing store. Um, you walk in there, you're intoxicated by

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<v Speaker 1>the amazing aromas and they have this just gorgeous spices.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so good. So you want like, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go, you don't You just don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>buy it online because you don't know how long has

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<v Speaker 1>been sitting in the warehouse. Oh, spice station, Silver Lake,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go, see you there? Interesting? Um, what's a

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<v Speaker 1>saffron thread? It's saffron. So the saffron comes from a flower.

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<v Speaker 1>And they that the reason why saffron is so expensive

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<v Speaker 1>is because because they because there are people that literally

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<v Speaker 1>by hand take each thread of the saffron out of

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<v Speaker 1>the flower. Oh my god, it's the most expensive spice

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. But there's no substitute for saffron because

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<v Speaker 1>you can't emulate the flavor. You can emulate the color.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful orangey yellow color like so you can

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<v Speaker 1>use tumeric to flavor right to seasoned rice or to

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<v Speaker 1>color rice, but it's never gonna have saffron flavor. How

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<v Speaker 1>often do you sharpen your knives, Well, I sharpen them

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. On a steel. But that's just really

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<v Speaker 1>sort of bringing them back into alignment. So you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it yourself on a on a on a stone,

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<v Speaker 1>either a waterstone or you know, on a regular knife

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<v Speaker 1>sharpening stone, or you can take it to a place

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll do it on a machine. Not The problem

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<v Speaker 1>with this, okay, is that I want to say they ruin.

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>They can ruin your knives, but they the machines are

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<v Speaker 1>so powerful that at some point it starts to change

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<v Speaker 1>the shape of your knife. Oh you know, because it

0:24:17.280 --> 0:24:20.120
<v Speaker 1>starts getting because of the way that they sharpen them.

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<v Speaker 1>They sharpen them so so well that it actually kind

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<v Speaker 1>of starts chipping away at the metal. You know. So

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<v Speaker 1>what do I need a stone? Yeah, you can do

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<v Speaker 1>it yourself. When you didn't go to YouTube and he'll

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<v Speaker 1>tease you how to sharpen. Enough, I am not learning

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<v Speaker 1>how to sharpen a knife off YouTube. That's so that

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<v Speaker 1>freaked me out. I'm just gonna come over here, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll show you. And then then there's there. Then there's

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<v Speaker 1>like the you know, the pasta section. So I have

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<v Speaker 1>cans of whole tomatoes to make tomato sauce. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I have tomato paste um. And then different kinds of pastas.

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:18.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, every shake, every every pasta, shapen size flavored

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 1>pasta's squidding pasta. There's a whole wheat pockery in there

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<v Speaker 1>that Christina loves. We made that the other day with

0:25:25.800 --> 0:25:32.040
<v Speaker 1>rock fish. It was so good. Um. And then dried fruits, currants, apricots, cranberries,

0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:34.920
<v Speaker 1>great for salads. I don't feel like I ever noticed

0:25:34.960 --> 0:25:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you having a lot of dried fruits around. Those are

0:25:36.800 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 1>good for. Those are really good for, like chop sells delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember you having a lot of those when

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<v Speaker 1>I was younger. Thing. Yeah, it's sort of like more

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<v Speaker 1>of my Mediterranean thing flavor. Yeah, Like you always have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of good candy ginger. I feel like too.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't have any candy ginger here, but

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<v Speaker 1>I should get some. I like it's a snack. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that's like something new that I've noticed that

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<v Speaker 1>you've had in your pantry more recently. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I've had a lot in my pants recently. Are

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<v Speaker 1>these these nut butters, you know, besides peanut butter and

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<v Speaker 1>almond butter, like my new, my new I'm now in June.

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<v Speaker 1>The best I mean, you know what I do is

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes I I make a piece of toast and

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<v Speaker 1>then I do half half the half the piece of

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<v Speaker 1>toast peanut butter and half the other piece of toast

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<v Speaker 1>pistachio butter, and then I dress a honey on top.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that sounds really good. Now I'm addicted to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so good. There's a place in the Hollywood farmers

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<v Speaker 1>market that has a really great quality one that I

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<v Speaker 1>just I mean, I buy them. I buy like two

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<v Speaker 1>jars at a time. It's so good. Also, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to have like beans in the like there

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<v Speaker 1>was something like there was some colleagues of mine, contemporaries,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, chefs who are like I don't use

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<v Speaker 1>canned beans. I'm like, okay, so you be my guest.

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<v Speaker 1>Spend four hours cooking white and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>like the skin on him doesn't get tender for one

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<v Speaker 1>reason or the other. And um, but I always have

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<v Speaker 1>like cans of like Cantellini white beans in their black

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<v Speaker 1>beans chickpeas. It's great to make like a hummus at it.

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<v Speaker 1>She always in mine, you know, like you know, Christina

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<v Speaker 1>like makes making like this like this chickpeak curry thing

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<v Speaker 1>that she loves to make. And you know, it's great

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<v Speaker 1>to make soups with and things like that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They're always good to have around. They're cooked perfectly. You

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<v Speaker 1>strain them out, you know, you straight out the juices

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<v Speaker 1>in them, and then you know they're they're good to use.

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<v Speaker 1>I also have like, like um tetra boxes of like

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<v Speaker 1>chicken broth and vegetable broth, good to have around a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times I make my own, but in a pinch,

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<v Speaker 1>why not? You know, important important to do that this

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<v Speaker 1>thing is sizzling. How high is it? I always cook

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<v Speaker 1>on white. That is so scary you can turn it down, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you know what you're doing. Yeah, mostly all right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then if if the tomato sauce gets a little thick,

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<v Speaker 1>you get some Pa. You're learning, girl, you're learning. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>give our popular taste perfect. And so what I do

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<v Speaker 1>is I just take I take the spaghetti, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just bring a little bit of the sauce with it,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a little of the water with it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then before I put it in the sauce, I just

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<v Speaker 1>seasoned the pasta again with some salt and pepper. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I start bathing in the sauce. Yeah, I'll just

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<v Speaker 1>look the lesh. Yeah, you have to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>the noodles cooking the sauce for a minute. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put splash of pasta water in the air, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put like a pat of butter to give it

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<v Speaker 1>like a nice so the glaze and and it's very classic,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in Southern Italian pasta dishes. Um to finish, it

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<v Speaker 1>would look a little bit of butter and then as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the freshmer going when at the end, exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how does that look really good? Like a nice bright

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<v Speaker 1>red with the capers and the olives running through a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good yeah, oh yeah, a little olive oil

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<v Speaker 1>topped it off a little more herds right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pantry. Didn't even I didn't have to go to

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