Speaker 1: Lady and gentlemen, it is a very very special day.
Speaker 1: In that day is because you see me and I'm
Speaker 1: not on the bus right now, which is absolutely fantastic
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Speaker 1: the people that drive them. Listen, I I'm not a
Speaker 1: reader right when it comes to books.
Speaker 2: You did pretty good.
Speaker 1: When it comes to books, I like the pictures instead.
Speaker 2: Of the words. You did say it early too. You
Speaker 2: said if I can read it once, I can read it.
Speaker 1: I can read it. And that one was a little
Speaker 1: different than the one that had up there. But I
Speaker 1: was a little nervous. And the reason why I'm a
Speaker 1: little nervous is I'm a little out.
Speaker 2: We're in it. We're in a different environment or in
Speaker 2: a different environment.
Speaker 1: I feel you can tell us Duke Cannon too, that's
Speaker 1: definitely Duke Cannon, Dude, that's definitely due.
Speaker 2: Can tell us Where are we, Willie? Where are we
Speaker 2: right now?
Speaker 3: At barcel 'SQ in New York? The boys like I listen.
Speaker 3: I know we've been with the boys. I know we've
Speaker 3: been with Barsol for a couple of years now. But
Speaker 3: the fact that we're doing an intro and an ad
Speaker 3: read in the office and in these four walls, I
Speaker 3: feel like.
Speaker 1: We've made it a little. Oh, We've absolutely made it.
Speaker 1: We have made it like no other and It's like
Speaker 1: listen and nothing changed but the change. You know, the
Speaker 1: boys are still just being the boys out here. That's
Speaker 1: life and here we are. Big big episode for you
Speaker 1: guys this week. A little cross pollination for coming for
Speaker 1: you guys. Chris Long flew in he was going to
Speaker 1: the draft. This guy took took a PJ in massive flex.
Speaker 1: The only thing that's a bigger flex. This is outstanding
Speaker 1: jaw line that you know, the boys just a little
Speaker 1: disappointed on happening. He can literally give me ten percent
Speaker 1: of that jawn line and be totally fine. He give
Speaker 1: me thirty percent of that jaw line. The man takes
Speaker 1: a PJ. Where does he live?
Speaker 2: Virginia? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What they that was from the hip man takes a
Speaker 1: PJ from Virginia. Instead of going straight to Las Vegas
Speaker 1: for the NFL Draft, he makes a stop in Nashville, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: comes to our humble shed, gets on our humble bus
Speaker 1: boys to see the boys and to have an absolute
Speaker 1: outstanding conversation. And we had a bit of a podcast.
Speaker 1: We had a bit of a podcast and we had.
Speaker 3: A first That's what I'm saying, will come losing our
Speaker 3: virginity together to all the listeners out there.
Speaker 2: We're losing our virginity together.
Speaker 1: This is it.
Speaker 3: I Uh, Chris Long was boy enough to roll up
Speaker 3: a little jay oh my, and we shared a.
Speaker 2: Little bit because I didn't we as a Chris Long
Speaker 2: and I you know what I'm saying. We shared a
Speaker 2: little bit of camaraderie before we hit the bus. Chris.
Speaker 3: He continued to do it throughout the entire episode, The
Speaker 3: boy knowing myself where I can go when I get
Speaker 3: in a nice little car wreck. Yeah, I had to
Speaker 3: like pump the brakes. I was, you know, doing that's happening.
Speaker 3: People were nervous for you, people being me, and I
Speaker 3: was a little nervous too. I'm like, I can't believe
Speaker 3: I'm doing this. I'm kind of just going straight from
Speaker 3: the like you said, straight from the hip with Chris Long,
Speaker 3: and Uh, it was interesting. But I think it went smooth, bro,
Speaker 3: because you can be in your own head.
Speaker 2: Oh there's no qu you can sit there and you're overthinking.
Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, I'm really doing this on the podcast,
Speaker 3: Like I'm doing this on the bus right and.
Speaker 2: People are watching it.
Speaker 1: People are gonna view this, and it's gonna be me
Speaker 1: being high for the rest of my life in front
Speaker 1: of people anytime they want to see it on YouTube
Speaker 1: right or an audio right.
Speaker 3: And Chris, like Chris asked you, You're like, yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: do it, yeah exactly, because he's like a bigger brother
Speaker 3: to you. And it was my first time meeting him
Speaker 3: when we first started, Yes, and he was a boy
Speaker 3: like he treated you guys like you as were long
Speaker 3: time friends.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he has been internet friends for a while.
Speaker 1: And when it came into a physical connection, the fusion
Speaker 1: was humble. All I could do is step back and watch.
Speaker 2: Did we hit it off? Bro? And I think it
Speaker 2: went solid. Like I was in my head a couple
Speaker 2: of times, a little bit, Yeah, what were you about?
Speaker 2: What do you think your head about?
Speaker 1: Because I, you know, knowing you know what special athlete
Speaker 1: I've never spoked to me in my life, but the
Speaker 1: things I've read about it, I know you can get
Speaker 1: in your head sometimes and then you see people looking
Speaker 1: at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So that being my first time, it was one of
Speaker 3: those things where he's talking to you and I'm staring
Speaker 3: at him because you know, I'm knowing the boys known
Speaker 3: to like listen, and so I'm sitting there listening.
Speaker 1: But not only listening but digest, right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 3: He's sitting there talking, telling the stories. And when he'd
Speaker 3: look at me and stare at me longer than I
Speaker 3: was anticipating, I'm thinking to myself, does he know that
Speaker 3: I'm high?
Speaker 2: Right now?
Speaker 3: Like you guys smoke together, right right, But but I'm
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, does he know that I'm high? And
Speaker 3: I'm just staring at him high because I'm actually listening
Speaker 3: to him, but he might not know that I'm listening
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And then I would start laughing, like in the pod, JP,
Speaker 3: I think you can. I don't know if you've went
Speaker 3: through the.
Speaker 2: Pod yet, but like I feel like I start laughing
Speaker 2: in the middle of him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a couple of times you do, go JP. Yeah,
Speaker 3: But then he kept telling the story. Hey, then he
Speaker 3: kept telling the story, and you're kind of like, oh,
Speaker 3: I gotta tie nub. Nobody thinks this is funny.
Speaker 2: No, you were straight. That's the thing. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All the books, all the literature I've read about marijuana
Speaker 1: is saying the same thing you're saying right now. There
Speaker 1: are points sometimes there's times when it's just like Let's
Speaker 1: say it was you and your really close friend and
Speaker 1: you're sitting at somebody's house watching a movie. There's no
Speaker 1: reason to feel insecure about anything because you guys are
Speaker 1: just living. But you put yourself in a vulnerable, situational
Speaker 1: whole world, right, the whole world. Eighty million viewers, eighty
Speaker 1: million viewers looking at you, watching will how is he
Speaker 1: gonna act? They're watching you pick up that left handed
Speaker 1: cigarette and put it in your mouth, take a puff.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of parents from the sixties that
Speaker 1: are shunning you right then and there. You put that
Speaker 1: thing down. Your life has changed forever. You're now the
Speaker 1: bad boy of this bus, the edgy Yeah, and you think, oh,
Speaker 1: he ain't that bad. He's wearing new balances, he's wearing
Speaker 1: the white Nike boys. But really, you bad boy, I
Speaker 1: get a tattooed. Oh shit, imagine if you got a tattoo,
Speaker 1: I know you started driving a Harley Grets no regirts, dude,
Speaker 1: you'd be absolutely killing it out there.
Speaker 2: I think you did phenomenal, and I think, based.
Speaker 1: On what I've read, if I were to be in
Speaker 1: that situation, I don't think I done half as good
Speaker 1: as you.
Speaker 2: You know, maybe one day. We'll find out one day
Speaker 2: when we're waiting, you know, and we're just.
Speaker 1: Trying based on my religion, I can't, but maybe we're trying.
Speaker 2: To get a little excitement in our lives, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when if things are dying down for us, when
Speaker 1: we just buy something correct, we'll leave the gamesuit for
Speaker 1: another day and we'll just jump on.
Speaker 3: And one other thing that made it nervous too, nerve
Speaker 3: wrecking was like there's there was no like dry run
Speaker 3: about it. Like he came on, he asked, he was
Speaker 3: running late. Like I'm thinking to myself, Taylor needed to
Speaker 3: be out at a certain time because your boy. I
Speaker 3: needed to be home for a certain time for my
Speaker 3: wife to go do her thing so I can watch
Speaker 3: the baby, And thinking of all of this stuff. It
Speaker 3: kind of just happens when you did this.
Speaker 1: Did you think everyone's like, oh, he talked about the baby,
Speaker 1: did you Yeah? He was like trying, you're trying to
Speaker 1: calm the crowd. I know I had to watch the baby.
Speaker 1: Everyone calmed down, I know, I know. Honestly, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I think you did a fantastic job. You were in
Speaker 1: your back. Please listen we're gonna jump to the show
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Speaker 2: That'll come. You guys have already listened to it on
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Speaker 1: See that's where I should have known that when we
Speaker 1: were saying, well you to me, don't worry about That's
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Speaker 2: It was incredible. Burt was the man dude, he was
Speaker 2: really good.
Speaker 4: Thinks he's a hydrated king. He's not the hydrated king.
Speaker 4: We're the hydrated kings. We're actually athletes.
Speaker 2: What makes what qualifies you to be a hydrated king? Well,
Speaker 2: I have a water charity. Sure, yeah, and I know
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Speaker 2: a little Manjaro. You're gonna do it one day? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have a feeling one day I'll do it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that'd be great. Buys that tough climb. I have no clue.
Speaker 2: Like camel back in Scott's Stale, Like, what's the deal.
Speaker 3: It's like it's many little grind to a little bit
Speaker 3: grounds little camel back.
Speaker 2: It's like many camelbacks, like it was just stacked on
Speaker 2: top of night. Oh, it's a camp thing. It's like
Speaker 2: it's like a summer camp. Yah, summer camp.
Speaker 1: And when I first met my wife, we went to
Speaker 1: California and there was like this hill that everyone went
Speaker 1: and hiked and she's like, you want to hit a.
Speaker 2: Hike on my pro athlete never been in a hip before.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill this.
Speaker 1: Her and my buddy were, no joke, half a mile
Speaker 1: ahead of me at one point. I'm fucking dying and
Speaker 1: the inclines like that. It's not very big at all.
Speaker 1: I was getting murdered.
Speaker 2: Well, you're carrying a backpack.
Speaker 1: No, I was carrying my I was carrying my pride
Speaker 1: and that was pretty heavy at.
Speaker 2: That point pounds. It's like to those people, you're carrying
Speaker 2: multiple backpacks. Yeah, that's true. You're at a disadvantage, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
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Speaker 4: one year. Seriously. Like big Cat committed, I.
Speaker 2: Am, but he didn't do it well. The problem is
Speaker 2: I didn't give him a ship to do either, though,
Speaker 2: to be honest, we didn't give a lot of shit
Speaker 2: to do. It was not very good with responsibility. No,
Speaker 2: we were doing podcasts football beautiful face that we're playing
Speaker 2: dude or.
Speaker 1: Playing Oh Jude, I'm outstanding. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: was standing but my efforts fucking crazy. Yeah, like that's
Speaker 1: like if you yeah, go ahead, When I was, well,
Speaker 1: go ahead with the analogy.
Speaker 2: I don't know the boys, I don't know what I've
Speaker 2: heard you make comments about your piece before. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not the best. I mean, here's the deal. My like
Speaker 2: my penis. All jokes aside my penis.
Speaker 3: Six minutes and thirty eight seconds that we're talking about
Speaker 3: Tyler's dad.
Speaker 1: I like to think we're right on par with our podcast.
Speaker 1: This is the trajector usually goes up. My penis is
Speaker 1: not big by any means, is it. I don't look
Speaker 1: at it. I go, yeah, you know I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I will say that it's super approachable. It's very handsome.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have like a misshapen thing at the tip.
Speaker 1: It stays nice and pink and then gets a little
Speaker 1: darker towards the end.
Speaker 3: And it just kind of I'm saying, I didn't want
Speaker 3: to feel like handsome has a little bit of like, no,
Speaker 3: he stands up straight, you know what. I'm saying that
Speaker 3: you're gonna stay handsome the way you're describing, I'm thinking
Speaker 3: he's adorable, he's cute, he's approachable.
Speaker 2: Most high school be handsome. Yeah, most huggable in life. No,
Speaker 2: I agree with that.
Speaker 1: With Tom Cruise, Leonardo DiCaprio.
Speaker 2: People say Ham and Vince Vaughn are handsome, They're.
Speaker 1: No, they're not really that handsome. Great personalities which makes
Speaker 1: them more handsome. Their personalize make them pretty like that.
Speaker 1: Nobody says Tom Cruise is so handsome. I think people
Speaker 1: do see before they find about scientology or it's all
Speaker 1: about platform shoes.
Speaker 2: Dude, that's what I'm saying. Everybody looks like, you know,
Speaker 2: hands and stuff. Here's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I've never pulled my pants down with a woman involved,
Speaker 1: and sure, go ooh, they've always done. Wow, that's really
Speaker 1: nice to see. It's like it's like a dinner date.
Speaker 1: It's something you marry. My penis is not like that.
Speaker 2: What are you You take a moment with every hold on.
Speaker 4: It's because if the football coach knows you're going to
Speaker 4: and fourteen, it'll tell you that in camp.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm arguing you're like I'm saying like you're saying.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying they're not embarrassing, but I don't think
Speaker 4: them not laughing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like you're saying I don't want Yeah, what I'm wondering
Speaker 3: is do you take a moment with every hi just
Speaker 3: to like pull down your pants?
Speaker 2: And I didn't the lights.
Speaker 3: I didn't lights every sing Oh wow that that looks
Speaker 3: that looks awesome, dude, It's.
Speaker 2: Like, yep, where are we at in this moment? No,
Speaker 2: you don't do that.
Speaker 1: We got a good kissing, touched the neck a little bit,
Speaker 1: rub the boobies.
Speaker 2: Dodde change four? Do you rub?
Speaker 1: And I fucking say, are you ready? How do you
Speaker 1: like changing radio?
Speaker 2: Baby? Come on baby? Rip at four play? I dim
Speaker 2: the lights real nice.
Speaker 1: I light a candle and I always have lavender, and
Speaker 1: I go, are you readying to go for what?
Speaker 2: I go for this? To go to sas or something? No, No,
Speaker 2: I don't want any for me. I'm gonna run. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna rub the lavender on the bottom of your feet.
Speaker 2: We're gonna single, by the way, my wife now it's
Speaker 2: like you want.
Speaker 3: To do.
Speaker 2: Get after each other on our fingers. Yeah, I fucking
Speaker 2: pull my pants and I say, what do you think?
Speaker 2: So four play?
Speaker 4: That's yeah, if you're if you if you're proud of
Speaker 4: doing that, which everybody should be.
Speaker 1: That's like, yeah, but when I brought up four play,
Speaker 1: you kind of were.
Speaker 2: Like four plays. If you know, if you lead with
Speaker 2: your life with the four doesn't do around. Everything's good.
Speaker 2: You want me to do what you want me to
Speaker 2: go down there, you don't get a jaw like that
Speaker 2: and not be decent. Four play. That's a lot of
Speaker 2: warm set. When you lead with the four play, you're
Speaker 2: like a You're like a receiver that can't run, and
Speaker 2: you're like, I'm really good in traffic or like I'm
Speaker 2: a good route runner. First, you know what I'm mean.
Speaker 2: You know, you can create a little bit of separation
Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald. But yeah, well might you might be Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 2: Oh I am, you might be Hall of Fame because dude,
Speaker 2: here's the skill set. Here's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: Like when I have sex, let me just say you,
Speaker 1: when I have sex, nothing else in the world matters.
Speaker 2: Wait back, this is the in the day, this is
Speaker 2: life right now, oh right now? Taking all that. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting.
Speaker 1: There like, hey, when when can I When can I
Speaker 1: fucking dive down? Get me a snorkel, get me a
Speaker 1: turkey sandwich. I'm fucking going in there for a while.
Speaker 1: You won't see me, but you'll know I'm there. That
Speaker 1: type of mentality.
Speaker 2: Dog. He sounds like a high mooder guy thettle co
Speaker 2: I'm a little confident. I'm a poor guy, had a
Speaker 2: lot of effort. I'm a team player. Come down there.
Speaker 2: I'm talking the boys up and how we're doing. I
Speaker 2: didn't like what PM p f T did. Do you
Speaker 2: that was some bullship On the next tail he goes did.
Speaker 4: And you talk about Tom Cruise and all these people
Speaker 4: on the beach. When you see like a beautiful actress
Speaker 4: or a handsome actor and you see their beach picture,
Speaker 4: how does that look?
Speaker 2: Not great?
Speaker 3: Right? Like if you google in the blank on the beach,
Speaker 3: I really want to know, like.
Speaker 2: Google Dwayn Johnson on the beach. Well, I can tell
Speaker 2: you this about.
Speaker 4: Dwayne Johnson is a guy that's enormous. He's big on
Speaker 4: the beach too. Yeah, he looks still at the beaches.
Speaker 2: We're here.
Speaker 4: Well, did it's not fair because he did a lifeguarding movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, bay watch every movie. That movie looky slapped though,
Speaker 1: I'm honest, Yeah, I thought it was good.
Speaker 2: What a top five beach movie of all time? No,
Speaker 2: off the top of my head right away. No, absolutely not.
Speaker 2: Point Break is up there.
Speaker 1: There's a movie but a penguin surfing that I think
Speaker 1: is probably better than that surfs up That's a fucking
Speaker 1: great movie.
Speaker 2: Dude's scene and saving Private Ryan maybe, so maybe that counts.
Speaker 4: Movie The Beach with Leonardo DiCaprio, which is I think underrated.
Speaker 2: But when we put in Jaws, Jaws is up there, that.
Speaker 1: Was probably number one. Jos is gonna be a dude,
Speaker 1: but Jaws, well, funk, who's that Leo?
Speaker 2: Yeah, on an accident right there, like.
Speaker 4: Like no question Like my wife would leave me for
Speaker 4: Leonardo DiCaprio, no questions at But I like I might
Speaker 4: see them walking down the beach and be like, I'm not.
Speaker 4: I don't even feel threatened by that interect Yeah right,
Speaker 4: no problem.
Speaker 3: Look at his name shoulders zero peck zero anything else
Speaker 3: bro except that belly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Like so that moment everyone loves Leo. You
Speaker 2: caught Will Compton on the beach, That's all it was.
Speaker 3: But I'm like that, I'm like more of a stout,
Speaker 3: like a stockey, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: So what happened was what happened with the boy caught
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Speaker 4: As funny as the day you realize you're old in
Speaker 4: the NFL is the day you have to start controlling
Speaker 4: the swelling in your knee. And you didn't do anything
Speaker 4: to it, damn in the building, And like, man, damn dude,
Speaker 4: I have a knee problem, Like just for being old,
Speaker 4: didn't there's no loose body in there.
Speaker 2: I didn't do.
Speaker 1: Another thing that's fucked up about being old in the
Speaker 1: NFL is you're not old in life. So it's this
Speaker 1: weird mental funk you're getting the whole time.
Speaker 2: Year old and everybody else is like, dude, you're not
Speaker 2: fucking old.
Speaker 4: Like a retirement I truly believe a lot of why
Speaker 4: guys struggle is like you're like the only person experiencing
Speaker 4: what you're experiencing because you don't have to work. If
Speaker 4: you're lucky, you you're old as fuck compared to all
Speaker 4: your peers. They also have a ten year head start
Speaker 4: whatever industry they join, So I think guys like really
Speaker 4: struggle with the fact, like, who the fuck am I dude, Like,
Speaker 4: I think that's the part about being old in the
Speaker 4: NFL that really sucks.
Speaker 2: To your point, and it's a great point. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: he's too high to talk retirement, WILLI. Yeah, I was
Speaker 2: just trying. He's high enough to be retired right now.
Speaker 3: That was a great point. I just looked at him, like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what you want me to follow with, dude.
Speaker 3: I wonder, by the way, I would pass the test,
Speaker 3: no problem right now. Yes, come on a drug test.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well they they they changed the gamma meters or
Speaker 2: whatever they are. Yeah, for guys that, like, you know,
Speaker 2: like it's just yes, guys have it good now. And
Speaker 2: I'm not hating you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a very that's a very much like
Speaker 1: back in my day, starter, I know, And I said
Speaker 1: I'm not hating.
Speaker 2: You got to feel and I'm not hating a lot.
Speaker 4: Of the old guys don't do when they're like people
Speaker 4: get paid too much these days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're proactive about using it in the NFL, right,
Speaker 3: not proactive, but like you spoke on.
Speaker 2: It right, well, I talked. I let it slip talking
Speaker 2: when people talk about what people talk about. Chris Loby,
Speaker 2: Oh that's a dude talks about smoking. No, that sucks, dude,
Speaker 2: I hate it.
Speaker 4: Bo Allen was at my golf tournament this weekend and
Speaker 4: his favorite joke is you hear Chris smokes weed, you know,
Speaker 4: like it's become like a thing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: And it's kind of fucking lame. I hate that Pink Whitney.
Speaker 4: I see Pink Whitney. Shout out to our boy.
Speaker 2: Shout out the Ryan Whitney Whitney. I'm busy. Those killers.
Speaker 2: They came on the podcast when you get Paul on
Speaker 2: here for real on the bus. I've not on the
Speaker 2: he's been on. I was in Arizona.
Speaker 1: Will came out. We did like a couple of Arizona pods.
Speaker 1: But like there's just a different vibe when you're on
Speaker 1: the bus instead of like a zoom Thingue Zoom sucks
Speaker 1: and anywhere other than being on the bus sucks, because
Speaker 1: this is what makes us us.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It's like that full. It's
Speaker 2: the full fucking you guys feel like when you do
Speaker 2: a Zoom interview or you just like this.
Speaker 1: We talk about it all the time. Uh, feel free
Speaker 1: to talk whenever you want. Will, I just know that
Speaker 1: you can be there's literally when he says the last word,
Speaker 1: you're saying the first word. Okay, go ahead, you know
Speaker 1: you already started. I think when the most frustrating thing
Speaker 1: about a Zoom is like when Will and I sit
Speaker 1: here and let's say we don't have a guest, it's like,
Speaker 1: as outstanding as you are, where like you're gonna put
Speaker 1: some word count in and I got to ask a question,
Speaker 1: and then you're answering that question. While you're answering that question,
Speaker 1: me and Will, if we're on the bus, it's easy
Speaker 1: for us to figure out, Okay, this Will is.
Speaker 2: Gonna ask the next question. I'm gonna ask the next question.
Speaker 1: But if you're on Zoom, you're kind of like sitting
Speaker 1: there hoping, and then sometimes there's that long pause after
Speaker 1: you answer, and then one of it were both going
Speaker 1: at the same time. I was like, oh fuck, the
Speaker 1: uppers not gonna ask a questions. And then there's the
Speaker 1: other time where you right away both of us try
Speaker 1: to ask the question.
Speaker 2: It's just it's hard word. It's money. You know, you
Speaker 2: can't like dap the person up, give them a before
Speaker 2: you talk, you know, like you greet people feel comfortable. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: like that's a real thing, you know.
Speaker 4: And yeah, like being on Zoom sucks, and like starting
Speaker 4: a podcast and the fucking pandemic. I feel like that's
Speaker 4: like getting drafted by the Lions, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like shout out to aid and Hutchinson or the kid
Speaker 4: from Oregon.
Speaker 2: Yeah he I'm actually still gonna talk about that, but
Speaker 2: keep going.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, but I just think it's like a tough start,
Speaker 4: and so kudos to you guys and figuring out a
Speaker 4: way that you could do this. I think it's really
Speaker 4: sweet because like Nashville is like a cool place that
Speaker 4: cool people come through. You may not get like all
Speaker 4: Hollywood guests if you had like a Hollywood know what
Speaker 4: I mean, Like you might not get your like actors
Speaker 4: that come through Nashville all the time, but you can
Speaker 4: still get really dope people in get country stars, athletes
Speaker 4: all that stuff.
Speaker 2: It's a cool place to like visit.
Speaker 4: Like people coming here when I heard like yeah, like
Speaker 4: if you were in Ames, Iowa. Like, I'm not coming
Speaker 4: to the bus right, no offense. I don't know why
Speaker 4: I just took a shot at you. It's all right,
Speaker 4: it's just chilling.
Speaker 1: Just the headline of their news tomorrow, Chris long weed smoker,
Speaker 1: Chris long.
Speaker 2: Enjoy. Yeah, they're gonna be activists. They're gonna be doing
Speaker 2: voodoo to me, and they get it left wing activist.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. It's red state here Iowa. I'm
Speaker 2: not as political as you guys.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you will Willy is WILLI always puts it
Speaker 1: on me in the airport with my mask off, but
Speaker 1: he's every time he's got to put us on his
Speaker 1: ching so mad.
Speaker 2: He's a libtard. Mask is not.
Speaker 4: Politics to me, Like, it's just like some people are afraid.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be as respectful as I can and keep
Speaker 4: it moving. Like I don't wear a mask like anymore.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I go in some stores and they're like
Speaker 4: mask up and then I'm just like, I'm gonna put
Speaker 4: it on, so like, let me take it out of
Speaker 4: my bar or let me run making people uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, except it's not that serious. Like if
Speaker 2: these people are taking that seriously, I mean they want
Speaker 2: me to have a mask on. Like, Yude, how prideful
Speaker 2: do you have to be? I would be like, no, fu,
Speaker 2: you're like your super you know that ship doesn't work
Speaker 2: running running people down in grocery stores. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: this is wow, incredible.
Speaker 4: Gone on your hip because you're like, you know, the
Speaker 4: small chance that you have to get in a shootout,
Speaker 4: but the person can.
Speaker 2: Little no chance, like of like Jesus Christ. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: you took us to politics, bro, I don't think I did.
Speaker 2: I didn't. Did you did? Yeah? Yeah, because you brought
Speaker 2: up Iowa red state, Iowa smoke. That's all right. You're
Speaker 2: also tired from being a dad. Hey, dude, I want really,
Speaker 2: I'm not can you step into my my my my
Speaker 2: everybody has a kid. Dude. That was like, are just
Speaker 2: out of control? Matter?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 2: I'm like the baby. So I get do I get
Speaker 2: equity in this fucking in busting with.
Speaker 3: The boy, I'll be able to point to this is
Speaker 3: how we built this whole thing up. Hey, but how
Speaker 3: does it feel, dude, really being a dad good and bad?
Speaker 3: Like it's up and down right, it's the real as
Speaker 3: fuck like that, know, I mean that is like there's
Speaker 3: there's some dog moments right like to where she's not
Speaker 3: going to sleep, where you get the domino effect of
Speaker 3: you and your wife both being very tired, and you
Speaker 3: know in your mind like you like you said, everybody's
Speaker 3: experiencing their own thing. Like I'm going through my day,
Speaker 3: so I think about my stress she's going through her day,
Speaker 3: and then I'm like, damn, she has to stay at
Speaker 3: home all day, loser, completely completely change her identity in
Speaker 3: the trying to be a mother and staying at home
Speaker 3: all the time while I go out a couple of
Speaker 3: times and do like cool shit. Yeah, the worst is
Speaker 3: like hey, can I go to the bar right right?
Speaker 3: Or somebody's like there's none of that, Like it depends
Speaker 3: on how you ask.
Speaker 2: I feel like right, but.
Speaker 3: It's just it's like one of those things where it's
Speaker 3: it's awesome when you you're able to have all that perspective,
Speaker 3: and then it's tough, like when you have those domino
Speaker 3: days where you're both extremely tired and you're like, are
Speaker 3: you gonna go get the kid?
Speaker 2: Like I've been doing X, Y and Z type of thing.
Speaker 2: That's a great point, but so up and down, I'm
Speaker 2: not doing that. That's a great point.
Speaker 4: Thing I was with you, uh, honestly point honestly, like
Speaker 4: early on, I feel like you're useless as a dad dude,
Speaker 4: like and so I'm impressed that you're doing things, but
Speaker 4: like I just felt like I stood around a lot
Speaker 4: and try not to.
Speaker 2: Fuck up the process. Like the first yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: three months, so you wait till the fun part. Like
Speaker 2: everybody talks. Everybody talks about that.
Speaker 3: I was talking about somebody who's their kids just turned
Speaker 3: like six months or something like all it's like it's
Speaker 3: gets better.
Speaker 4: So tell me this, what do you guys think about this?
Speaker 4: What do you think about like people that fucking like
Speaker 4: we make content. At some point we're gonna look back
Speaker 4: at it and be like we were fucking lame and
Speaker 4: our kids well for sure, Yeah see I don't think
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 5: You don't think that way, Like truly in my mind,
Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, a stroll back on all these photos
Speaker 5: and like know who old man was like what.
Speaker 3: He didn't take shit too seriously, had a great time,
Speaker 3: was big in the moments, like I think it's.
Speaker 2: Gonna be dope. I think if I was your kid,
Speaker 2: I think you were cool. I appreciate that, like to me,
Speaker 2: like you do with your dad. Yeah, I do, I do,
Speaker 2: no question.
Speaker 3: So it's one of those things, and you probably wish
Speaker 3: there were more archives of just even fun or lame
Speaker 3: stuff to where you can get my dad form.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, though, honestly, I wish they had, like
Speaker 4: my dad had a podcast, like you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like I know who my dad was like. But then
Speaker 4: you really learn more about your parents when you talk
Speaker 4: to their buddies. Yeah he's drunk even better. You get
Speaker 4: their buddies a little stoned because it's much stronger now,
Speaker 4: But you get a buddy of your dad's stone and
Speaker 4: let him just go and tell you the stories about
Speaker 4: your dad. That's how you get to know your dad.
Speaker 4: If he had played now, I feel like I get
Speaker 4: to know my dad a lot more like when he
Speaker 4: was twenty three. But they didn't have interviews. They just
Speaker 4: didn't like follow people around with cameras. There weren't cell phones,
Speaker 4: like yeah, so, I mean, our kids are gonna know
Speaker 4: us really fucking well, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But I feel like when your dad playing that, like
Speaker 1: what a time to get away with ship? Yeah, no question,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what a fucking.
Speaker 2: Time to be out there? He was on there or whatever?
Speaker 4: Bro like the Oakland Raiders, Like there were no fucking
Speaker 4: you know when you watched any given Sunday and Lawrence
Speaker 4: Taylor's on the roof with the chainsaw, Yeah, I remember
Speaker 4: being like, that's not we don't do that, like it's listening.
Speaker 2: But maybe they did in the eighties. Maybe Lyle Alzado like,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I mean, the shit's fucking insane. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: sure he was. It was a wild man and partly
Speaker 2: was seventy seven.
Speaker 4: I think the way my dad put it was like
Speaker 4: there was a point in time where I think Lyle
Speaker 4: was very confident that he could beat up anybody on
Speaker 4: the planet, and like I wasn't so sure either.
Speaker 2: Didn't he do an exhibition against Muhammad or something like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got it, just even if it's not true,
Speaker 4: Like he had that attitude and he was big and
Speaker 4: he was strong, and he had assistance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but he's a fucking and he was like,
Speaker 1: just he's the perfect example of like if a dude
Speaker 1: like that played now, yeah, it'd be like Johnny Manziel
Speaker 1: and steroids. Not to take any shot at Johnny Manziel,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like john he partied a lot and
Speaker 1: it was exposed because the time he lived in.
Speaker 2: And I think the reason I respect Johnny though, is
Speaker 2: because he owns it.
Speaker 1: He does he was he came on here and he
Speaker 1: really owned it. He talked about he won't change a thing,
Speaker 1: which I don't know how much I would agree with that,
Speaker 1: like would you really not change anything?
Speaker 2: But he owned it. He was apologetic.
Speaker 1: He felt bad for the like the Browns franchises, like yeah,
Speaker 1: I've kind of I fucked them over. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: like the way he has handled this business line. Bro's
Speaker 1: whole fucking right, there's a slew. The Browns had a
Speaker 1: tough all over exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. That's why I think people are hard on Baker,
Speaker 2: but he didn't. I think their situations are different, Baker
Speaker 2: and Johnny.
Speaker 4: But I just think like, like, he's gonna end up
Speaker 4: being one of the most hated Browns quarterbacks, but of
Speaker 4: all that Jersey, he's probably the like one of the
Speaker 4: best in twenty years. He probably is the best in
Speaker 4: twenty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying Listen, Joe Thomas played
Speaker 2: for ten years and had twelve different quarterbacks, and I'm
Speaker 2: not putting him on a pedestal.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's like an elite quarterback or anything.
Speaker 4: But nobody hated Baker until he didn't play well. I
Speaker 4: don't think Baker the person. I've never heard of Baker
Speaker 4: the person being a bad guy until he started. The
Speaker 4: thing about the NFL. You can be whoever you want
Speaker 4: until you play poorly. When you play poorly, people stop
Speaker 4: laughing at your jokes, right, stop laughing.
Speaker 2: Those progressive commercials, He's on all of them. In the
Speaker 2: locker room, you know that's tough, and you you've been
Speaker 2: through it, You've been hurt, like you know, you went
Speaker 2: through your ship. It's fucking tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough, especially when you walk in that locker room
Speaker 1: and you look around and you're like, I wonder if
Speaker 1: these guys even respect me anymore.
Speaker 2: It's through those type of situations.
Speaker 1: It's fucking hard because especially if you're up here at
Speaker 1: one point in your career and then you get knocked
Speaker 1: down like my situation, and then you're playing that next
Speaker 1: year and you're kind of looking around like damn, like
Speaker 1: you feel like you just kind of lost respect from and.
Speaker 2: Like any there's just the only thing that really matters,
Speaker 2: like anything else. You're probably projecting.
Speaker 4: So in your head, but like that's the game that
Speaker 4: they play in the NFL, Like they don't even need
Speaker 4: to put pressure on you to come back. The biggest
Speaker 4: pressure on you to come back is the guys I
Speaker 4: passed in the hallway. Yeah, like going to practice and
Speaker 4: I got fucking grays on and I'm walking to the
Speaker 4: I remember, like their ability was not an issue for me.
Speaker 4: Played in you know, playing one hundred games in a row,
Speaker 4: not a problem, never missed a practice, nothing got rolled
Speaker 4: up on, holding up Phil Loadholt week one of twenty fourteen.
Speaker 4: I was a captain. Next thing, you know, I'm walking
Speaker 4: through the halls wondering if people even liked me. Bro
Speaker 4: It's a weird fucking thing, dude, A weird deal, and
Speaker 4: it happens to the best players in the league. Like, yeah,
Speaker 4: so I think you know talking about Baker whoever, It's
Speaker 4: just like it's a total what have you done?
Speaker 2: For me lately league and you know, playing hurts probably
Speaker 2: not a good idea either. And the Tours was his
Speaker 2: full rotator cuff, right, yeah, and labor to get all
Speaker 2: this respect. Well, so here's where there it might might
Speaker 2: be a thing.
Speaker 1: It's like it's honorable Baker when Baker like tours laboram
Speaker 1: you think the players would respect that, you know, eventually
Speaker 1: the coaches are you know, if you're gonn play, you're
Speaker 1: gona play better play. Well, there's a standard. But I
Speaker 1: feel like if if you tore your labor and you're playing,
Speaker 1: you might not be playing here, Like damn it. The
Speaker 1: boys really doing it though, Like he's giving it all,
Speaker 1: he's not bitching now, I'm just sitting out just kind
Speaker 1: of cool.
Speaker 4: Well that's what I would say, I guess, yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: like people forget like by week By the eighth week
Speaker 4: you're back in people are like, oh, he's good now,
Speaker 4: but like you're not.
Speaker 2: That injury doesn't go away the rest of the year.
Speaker 3: So I do think, like, you know, people forget once
Speaker 3: the farther, like you're saying, like week eight, like even
Speaker 3: the next year, people don't even remember that you're playing hurt.
Speaker 2: You're just judged not at all, and your stats and
Speaker 2: everything else.
Speaker 3: Receiver organization talk about I only had X amount of
Speaker 3: catches blah blah blah, and not even remember the injury.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, and and like the organization forgets like you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And you're like, man, if I fucking play hurt, they're
Speaker 4: gonna look out for me next year.
Speaker 2: No, no, they're not.
Speaker 3: Bro I told my PC it might have been it
Speaker 3: might have been one of the years you were on Philly.
Speaker 3: Yeah I can't remember, but I tore my PCO and
Speaker 3: I like, hey, big time shit talker when he was
Speaker 3: on Philly. I was you were who everyone on my
Speaker 3: Offen Toney when we played it was a year if
Speaker 3: you guys want the super Bowl, but go ahead, I will.
Speaker 3: We'll bookmark that year after right.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I was just told, hey.
Speaker 4: Let we'll tell the story real quick. I was looking
Speaker 4: back to tell me the PCL story. I won't go
Speaker 4: here because I'm shocked by who's going first. But I changed.
Speaker 2: I'm like, not me, dude.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say to your point of like,
Speaker 3: they're gonna take care of you the next year, like
Speaker 3: it was sixteen. Let's just say it was sixteen. Ye
Speaker 3: I tore my PCL against Philly. Sure, and I'm back
Speaker 3: practicing on the ninth day from tearing my PC out
Speaker 3: with a huge, massive brace, you know, doing whatever I
Speaker 3: can off the field to get back as.
Speaker 2: Quickly as possible on the field.
Speaker 3: Did some stuff that I don't even ask questions on
Speaker 3: so I can get out there and play because we
Speaker 3: played on Monday.
Speaker 2: Did stuff you didn't ask questions on. Yeah, damn yeah,
Speaker 2: early check. What are we talking about here? Probably get
Speaker 2: my knee right.
Speaker 3: Because we played a Monday night game and the backup
Speaker 3: blew a couple of things, and you just feel like
Speaker 3: sitting on there, you still standing there on the sideline
Speaker 3: and everything else, and coach and be like, oh man,
Speaker 3: we need you out there.
Speaker 2: If we get you to just call the defense all
Speaker 2: this different stuff, right, Yeah, we just need you to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 3: Right. But you're in your own head doing whatever it
Speaker 3: takes to get back on You think it's extremely honorable.
Speaker 3: All the everybody in the locker room, everybody in that
Speaker 3: moment talks about how you know, you're like a savage,
Speaker 3: You're a monster, Like I can't believe you're doing this.
Speaker 2: And I played like the last three games, and we
Speaker 2: missed that.
Speaker 3: Last week was when the New York Giants, they all
Speaker 3: flew to Miami to get on that boat, and then
Speaker 3: they came and beat.
Speaker 4: Us by like one pointer a couple of boat year
Speaker 4: the boat year, bro, And so we didn't get in
Speaker 4: the way. Players are drunk as fuck in their home
Speaker 4: city too.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, okay, but that was we didn't play
Speaker 3: into the playoffs then. So I was going into my
Speaker 3: restricted free agent year and you're kind of thinking like
Speaker 3: they might take care of you with a second tender
Speaker 3: or contract extension because you've been a captain and a
Speaker 3: starter for the team. All of this stuff played played,
Speaker 3: when he plays, when he's hurt, all this stuff, he
Speaker 3: gets back on the field as quickly as possible.
Speaker 2: He sacrifices for the team. Bro. They don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck about that. They just use it against you because
Speaker 2: you are what your film is. It's a business.
Speaker 3: So you're out there limping around with one tackle in
Speaker 3: the last in the final two games of the year,
Speaker 3: I only had like one or two tackles, So I
Speaker 3: wanted to call the defense and be honorable.
Speaker 2: Like they used that lead either.
Speaker 4: From the back, so like right, you know, like when
Speaker 4: I came back from that injury in fourteen, I shouldn't
Speaker 4: have come back, And honestly, it changed my career forever.
Speaker 2: I got lucky. I wound up on top with everything.
Speaker 4: But I was lucky, Like I easily could have signed
Speaker 4: with the wrong team, and I've been bitter the rest
Speaker 4: of my life.
Speaker 2: But I played hurt.
Speaker 4: Part of it was because I loved my coach, Jeff Fisher,
Speaker 4: and I wanted to play for him too. I love
Speaker 4: Jeff Fisher, dude, and Jeff like didn't pressure me to play,
Speaker 4: like in fact, there was a game where I went
Speaker 4: to the front of the plane round the way to
Speaker 4: San Diego and I like could not walk, dude, But
Speaker 4: I just wanted to play like that, like insecurity drove
Speaker 4: you to play. Yeah, And I remember, like I tried
Speaker 4: to argue with Jeff at the front of the plane.
Speaker 4: He was like, you're not playing. So I appreciated him
Speaker 4: taking care of me. But but like they can only
Speaker 4: do so much to stop you from yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. And then you put
Speaker 2: bad tape out there and that follows you, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I was just like, if if I had to
Speaker 4: give a young player advice, and I know everybody's situation.
Speaker 2: Is different, Like, don't do it unless unless it's a
Speaker 2: big situation, like you know, you had a job, have
Speaker 2: your money. Yeah, it always depends on where you're at
Speaker 2: in your career.
Speaker 1: When I rolled my ankle my rookie year and it
Speaker 1: was a two and fourteen year, it was like week twelve,
Speaker 1: you've been through one yeah yeah, oh yeah, well two, fourteen,
Speaker 1: three and thirteen in the first two years. And so,
Speaker 1: but I called my age. I'm like, yo, I got
Speaker 1: to play. He's like, how can you sell him? Like no,
Speaker 1: like this ship, I have a splinter or something, and
Speaker 1: I just like, dude, you you were a first round pick.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but I owe this team. And he's like,
Speaker 1: you guys aren't going to make the playoffs. You guys
Speaker 1: are probably gonna have the first or second pick in
Speaker 1: the draft, Like what are you doing Ben Simmons energy,
Speaker 1: And they had to.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, don't put that on me.
Speaker 1: But he had to like legit talk me into like
Speaker 1: you should not play, Like do not play. This is
Speaker 1: not smart for your career of business. Your first year
Speaker 1: He's like, it's your and then and it's your first
Speaker 1: year in the league, so you don't know, like you're
Speaker 1: still in college.
Speaker 4: Well, key, you're not that guy where you have a
Speaker 4: first round attitude. Like you know, sometimes I wish like
Speaker 4: I have more of a first round attitude where I
Speaker 4: would just like, you know, just boss people around, do.
Speaker 2: What I wanted to do. And now you really wish
Speaker 2: you were like had that a little bit, maybe I'd
Speaker 2: have protected myself better in certain situations, makes sense, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Like, but the flip side of it is like not
Speaker 4: being that guy people fuck with you, and you know,
Speaker 4: like the one time it did pay off, I played
Speaker 4: with a high ankle my contract here we were too
Speaker 4: and fourteen, and I was shooting that thing up. Yeah
Speaker 4: you get and that was the best year I ever had.
Speaker 4: And so like the trade off of that is my
Speaker 4: ankle was probably never the same, but I will take
Speaker 4: the money. Yeah, they broke me off. So like mission accomplished.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here looking at a house right now. I'm like,
Speaker 4: thanks to playing on a high ankle, you know, I exactly.
Speaker 4: So there are is a give and take. You got
Speaker 4: to a dance, you gotta you.
Speaker 1: Know, but it's all it's it also, like for players,
Speaker 1: it can't be a double edged short then I'm not
Speaker 1: saying which side of them on. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna take the risk of doing the high
Speaker 1: ankle sprain and playing that way, then if you're forty
Speaker 1: forty to forty three years old and your ankle's fucked up, now,
Speaker 1: like you can't bitch at that because you like you
Speaker 1: made the choice too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well.
Speaker 5: Don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know all the details when it comes to
Speaker 2: people getting their money and that sort of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all. It's all way different, right, well, way way
Speaker 2: way different.
Speaker 4: But I will say yeah, like me personally, I can
Speaker 4: only speak for myself, like I've never once looked back
Speaker 4: at my trainers and been like mad at them, you know,
Speaker 4: even when they were wrong about stuff, like because usually
Speaker 4: I was ready to do that I got you know,
Speaker 4: I was jumping out of the airplane, dude, like we
Speaker 4: were like, fuck it, let's do this. So you know,
Speaker 4: I think trainers in the NFL could do a better
Speaker 4: job of like stopping players from themselves, but that's not
Speaker 4: their best interest because they have pressure from up the
Speaker 4: exactly ready huge coaches.
Speaker 2: Don't understand you know know what's going on in players' bodies.
Speaker 2: They don't. They don't have time to care or educate themselves.
Speaker 2: And I get it. The disconnect is real in the NFL.
Speaker 4: It's almost like they need an arbitrator to decide when
Speaker 4: a player comes back, like something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's just that's just kind of the game,
Speaker 3: right because like when I was speaking about my thing earlier, right, like,
Speaker 3: there's like you're sitting there as a player, angry about
Speaker 3: it because your situation didn't work out.
Speaker 2: But if I look back and think about it, it's, yeah.
Speaker 3: If you're up there playing gmode and everything else, like
Speaker 3: you might love the guy, but you still got to
Speaker 3: separate the person on the business side of it and
Speaker 3: you got to see it for what it is.
Speaker 2: That's what he looks like in the film. That's true.
Speaker 3: But there's so many games being played. Like you said,
Speaker 3: with the trainer thing, you can they can definitely be better.
Speaker 3: And we all know trainers, like we all talk shit
Speaker 3: in the off season, right because we're like, oh, that's
Speaker 3: only a third party, that's why we outsourced and do
Speaker 3: all this. But if you think about it from the
Speaker 3: trainer's shoes, like they got to get the player out
Speaker 3: on the field as fast.
Speaker 2: As possible because the coach, their head coaches in there
Speaker 2: every morning.
Speaker 4: Kind of dude, everybody's just like it's like hoping you're
Speaker 4: playing musical chairs, like hopefully I get a chair, Like
Speaker 4: I don't want to be the one to fuck this
Speaker 4: thing up.
Speaker 1: Right, whether it's the player or it's also a massive lack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like we talk about all the time on the bus.
Speaker 1: I do say an accountability like whether it's them, us whatever,
Speaker 1: but like it is kind of a finger pointing game
Speaker 1: when it comes to being hurt because the trainer is
Speaker 1: trying to save his ass and we don't have this
Speaker 1: issue at the Titans.
Speaker 2: Todd's awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it'shout to Reggie Scott and all my former trainers.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it's good. It's just this is just
Speaker 2: how it works.
Speaker 1: I'm not coming at anybody oft the Titans because I
Speaker 1: think they're outstanding, but it is like a it can
Speaker 1: turn into that fuck in the office where everyone's doing
Speaker 1: well he and he well he and it's but not me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We're all worried about We're
Speaker 2: worried about my building.
Speaker 4: Dude, there accountability and a football building is rare when
Speaker 4: people aren't looking to blame everybody else. And we've all
Speaker 4: done it in our careers and ship like you look
Speaker 4: elsewhere when ship, because especially you haven't through a two
Speaker 4: and fourteen year, a three and thirteen year. I think
Speaker 4: the first eight game or eight years in my career,
Speaker 4: I think I won like forty games or something. In
Speaker 4: Saint Louis, like we seven and nine, was like, damn,
Speaker 4: we might go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh world up boys.
Speaker 4: Being on those teams, dude, it's like it's like run
Speaker 4: for cover because, like you know, on those teams, firings
Speaker 4: are inevitable. You know, cuts are inevitable. You know that,
Speaker 4: Like you're not even sure if the owner cares sometimes
Speaker 4: like based on the signings. So everybody's just like their
Speaker 4: assholes are so tight. We used to call it like panic,
Speaker 4: like upstairs they're panicking. What's the panic meter today? After
Speaker 4: a loss?
Speaker 2: The whole thing.
Speaker 1: You can feel it in a football building. It as
Speaker 1: a player too, you can for sure feel it. And
Speaker 1: there's guys that have that vibe more than others. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like I know dudes on our team who like low
Speaker 1: key have like a great pulse on what's going on
Speaker 1: in the building, and there's guys like me who is like, hey,
Speaker 1: I got to focus shit.
Speaker 4: But you know it's when coaches come in the meeting
Speaker 4: room and you all play good that you lost, and
Speaker 4: they're just motherfucking people so people can hear them in
Speaker 4: the hallway. Yeah, Like that's ship. That's the part of
Speaker 4: the business that I hate, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like that everybody's out in their own self interest. Will
Speaker 4: just be real, dude, Like we played well on the loss.
Speaker 4: We'll try to win next time. Like they get paid
Speaker 4: to you played shitty in a win. Be real, don't
Speaker 4: coach off the the result. You know, right because about
Speaker 4: me ship talking, I should talk to you guys.
Speaker 2: No, you didn't should talk to me. But it was
Speaker 2: right because it was twenty seventeen, right when we played
Speaker 2: teen and we blew that game. We played terrible well.
Speaker 2: We we also didn't play very well.
Speaker 4: Well guy, you can imagine how bad we played. We
Speaker 4: jumped out like two touchdowns up on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we came back and one that thing was
Speaker 1: it overtime? It was the last drive over really well,
Speaker 1: I remember you because I.
Speaker 2: Don't think exactly is this your house on the squad.
Speaker 1: This was this minosaur Chris, and yeah, and you were
Speaker 1: playing strictly over the right title because I was going
Speaker 1: against you.
Speaker 2: Your rookie from the balls, Derek, Derek Barnett, Barnett and
Speaker 2: he and you and he were getting into it. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing about Derek Barnett. I will say this
Speaker 4: for any Philly fans listening. I love that motherfucker and
Speaker 4: I would fight with him any day because he at
Speaker 4: least will fucking scrap you'll go.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think he's got to had a
Speaker 2: hard time up there, but you know he's like in your.
Speaker 1: Ship's a tough place, though, dude, Philly is a Philly
Speaker 1: is a place you look at like it literally looks
Speaker 1: like a war zone, like Liby or some ship like
Speaker 1: that where it's just like, oh my god, like people.
Speaker 6: Are just like I've been to Philadelphia, dude, bro, have
Speaker 6: you know I'm not talking about the city, I'm talking
Speaker 6: about you.
Speaker 2: I'm not with the fan base. Oh yeah, I got
Speaker 2: it's not going when she's not going right. That place
Speaker 2: is a dump and low key. I'm not a huge
Speaker 2: fan of Philly. It's a good city.
Speaker 6: Hey, I'm all right, hey, why don't we do I
Speaker 6: should have said, Libya, why don't you come up there
Speaker 6: and hang with a couple. I'm gonna said that, Kelsey
Speaker 6: me no that we'll have a great weekend and obviously playoff.
Speaker 2: Willie's coming. Yeah, I'll be there, but let me let
Speaker 2: me be there. Hey, I gotta write this wrong. Let
Speaker 2: me let me land this planet. So Philidelphia for life.
Speaker 1: I think when you when you're at the stadium and
Speaker 1: you see like the fans will openly get mad at
Speaker 1: your own team, their own team. Oh yeah, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, Like it's just fucking a war zone out
Speaker 1: of here.
Speaker 2: That's what that's what you want? No, you do you do?
Speaker 2: But it's like the wild you know, Philly fan bases,
Speaker 2: the Philly fan base inside the stadium, women and drank
Speaker 2: pregnant thing. He's over it, dude.
Speaker 4: Like anyways, I just feel like Philly Philly fandom, Like
Speaker 4: that fan base is kind of like the metaphor I
Speaker 4: would have would be that player in your team that
Speaker 4: you're like, I fucking hated him when I didn't play
Speaker 4: with him, but he's the best teammate to have, dude,
Speaker 4: Like that's what a Philly fan is, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I know that.
Speaker 4: I was kind of agnostic on it because I wasn't
Speaker 4: in the NFC East, but I heard a lot of
Speaker 4: the talk. But man like that made my my football
Speaker 4: career playing there, dude, Like I'm not even blowing smoke.
Speaker 4: Like I love Saint Louis. We don't have a team
Speaker 4: there anymore. That's weird to like not have some place
Speaker 4: to go home to. So like I was kind of
Speaker 4: like NFL homeless. Really it is like Philly adopted me.
Speaker 4: New England didn't really, And I really fuck with those people.
Speaker 4: They're cool, but you're like you're another guy, you know,
Speaker 4: like in New England, like we were part of a machine.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, what have I done here that anybody
Speaker 2: else had? You're gonna be like taking be like okay, no, but.
Speaker 4: They respect you. They're cool and they're knowledgeable. But then Philly,
Speaker 4: like you know, basically we did something they've been waiting
Speaker 4: for for forever. So yeah, it's a special city. I
Speaker 4: love Philly.
Speaker 2: I think it's they're just they're crazy.
Speaker 3: Man, Like you love to have them out there on Sunday,
Speaker 3: but you probably hate to have them window exactly right,
Speaker 3: it's really all it is, right because they're so passionate
Speaker 3: and so fucking crazy. Like I always tell people that
Speaker 3: that was my favorite place to like go and play
Speaker 3: because they hate you so fucking much. Yeah, if you're winning,
Speaker 3: like this year you win the super Bowl, like that's
Speaker 3: the type of city you want to win for. But
Speaker 3: when you're losing, like, yeah, life is tough, they try
Speaker 3: to need that speech from Kelsey. He crushed it.
Speaker 2: He crushed itshed. The Chargers went on silent count at home.
Speaker 2: You know. That was the Chargers in that weird little
Speaker 2: in that small little deal like Philly fans like packed it.
Speaker 2: Bro oh, they ruled the NFC East.
Speaker 1: Lowki reminds me of like old school Big ten, like
Speaker 1: Auburn Alabama, like historical like super in it fans Arter
Speaker 1: Charter franchise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're fucking about it.
Speaker 1: They're about it because I remember when we went that
Speaker 1: to and fourteen season, Dallas played at our house and
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're silent, we're not gonna be able. We can't
Speaker 2: heard here and we were in Saint Louis brother like
Speaker 2: we did not sell you know you're from Yeah, Edward
Speaker 2: Jones Dome, shout out the Edward Jones, the.
Speaker 4: Weird lighting and listen for anybody out there listening, like
Speaker 4: I love that place.
Speaker 2: Complicated relationship because.
Speaker 1: Definitely covering your ass on all these people, they loved
Speaker 1: them the death are amazing and mean, but I love
Speaker 1: them to death.
Speaker 2: I didn't do that.
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't do that in New England. If you
Speaker 4: didn't watch that, there's no shade. But you know, like
Speaker 4: Saint Louis spent eight years there. Yeah, awesome fans, but
Speaker 4: like we were one in fifteen, two and fourteen, so
Speaker 4: like the stadium was unpacked. Yeah, Steelers would come in,
Speaker 4: we go on silent count. Packers would come in, we
Speaker 4: go on silent count. Fucking you name it. I think
Speaker 4: the fucking Titans came in and I don't know about
Speaker 4: that now, not far really that's feeling, you know the same. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but also what years were that was that two thousand
Speaker 4: and nine to well, y'all played there one time and
Speaker 4: beat us with the guy from Washington, who I hear
Speaker 4: is a.
Speaker 2: Great kid guy from the quarterback, Jake Locker. He is great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was there my rookie year. He was outstandingly
Speaker 1: He's a great dude, great fucking dude. Loki loved the
Speaker 1: fact that he just like disappeared into the abyss.
Speaker 2: No, that's what that's just gone. Now do you ever
Speaker 2: feel like you wish you did that?
Speaker 4: Like, well, you're not retired yet, but you're not retired
Speaker 4: to I'll ask myself, ask yourself now.
Speaker 2: Openly retired. Okay, Hey, dude, do you ever feel like
Speaker 2: when you retire you want to like not do this,
Speaker 2: like just like the podcast Live in a Real Bus,
Speaker 2: Like this is kind of a like like live in
Speaker 2: a Real Bus just disappeared. Yeah, I would say there's
Speaker 2: to be cool.
Speaker 1: I would say yes, but yeah, for sure, I want
Speaker 1: to disappear to the face of the earth when to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 2: Have no social footprint. That sounds fucking cool some days, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, thinking of doing the podcast and my relationship, I
Speaker 3: feel like is so different on Twitter, Like I love Twitter,
Speaker 3: Yeah you do love me, like I have a good.
Speaker 2: Time on it. If there was a day where I
Speaker 2: love Twitter, I see my younger version of myself and
Speaker 2: you what happened? Where did go sideways? You? Just like
Speaker 2: it was a really fun little room and now it's
Speaker 2: just like everybody has a fucking opinion, and you know, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude.
Speaker 3: I guess there's a party that will grow out of
Speaker 3: the wanting to ban through with the public because I
Speaker 3: think the public opinion stuff is funny.
Speaker 2: I'm like, we have fun.
Speaker 4: When your kids get older, I think you stop having
Speaker 4: time to like argue with everybody, not every day, but
Speaker 4: like or to tweet, like, you know, it's like harder
Speaker 4: to be like I'm sinking into this app, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: and I have two kids that are only six and
Speaker 4: three for like a certain amount of time, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. So like I do feel like sometimes
Speaker 4: the content's awesome, but you're like, god, damn, dude, I'll
Speaker 4: never be in my thirties again. What if I wake
Speaker 4: up at fifty and I'm like, I should have just
Speaker 4: fucking got a bus, Yeah, disappeared.
Speaker 2: Well, how long are you on this app to make
Speaker 2: you feel like? I'm really not dude, I just bursts
Speaker 2: fool in your pocket? Seah.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because since my kids are not getting
Speaker 1: older four and then almost two, like especially my Fouriel,
Speaker 1: she wants my attention a lot more like I like
Speaker 1: designate like put times in my head, like, hey, i'll
Speaker 1: get home, I'll eat at one o'clock. Oka, from one
Speaker 1: thirty to like two, I'm gonna smack as many tweets
Speaker 1: as possible, and then when the kids go to sleep,
Speaker 1: I might spend another half an hour or an hour
Speaker 1: on that thing and just smack, like get my fucking
Speaker 1: content numbers up, my tweets up, and then I'm kind
Speaker 1: of out of there.
Speaker 4: I'm really hard, like I'm tough to do. I'm really
Speaker 4: bad at doing anything formulaic, so like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get it's difficult to do. Yeah, to
Speaker 2: be like, oh yeah, from from this time of day
Speaker 2: to this time of day being super structured and for
Speaker 2: the point of engaged or scheduled will I don't.
Speaker 4: The other day was four twenty, so people gave me
Speaker 4: shit because of what you were talking about. Oh, it's
Speaker 4: for twenty griz, I honor. Are you like all that stuff? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I didn't know it was for twenty It seems like
Speaker 4: you have to unpack that a little bit. Yeah, him
Speaker 4: being high, No, you coming at him for being high?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I didn't know that that was sparka something, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I did not know that I had to deal with
Speaker 2: bo Allen this weekend.
Speaker 4: You know, it's a lame like when you talk about
Speaker 4: when you talk about something and you're like one of
Speaker 4: the few people that are talking about it, people make
Speaker 4: you like you're supposed to get like you're cool for it. Like,
Speaker 4: I just wish everybody else would talk about it. I
Speaker 4: think more people are, like, it's like drinking a beer
Speaker 4: to me. Now it is now it is, But like
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, I didn't feel like there
Speaker 4: were that many players that were talking about bud.
Speaker 2: See what you can think about like this, like you
Speaker 2: did it before it was cool.
Speaker 4: No, But like the problem is that I saw if
Speaker 4: I was sitting here looking at Chris Long talking about weed,
Speaker 4: be he's doing it to be cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just you're doing like myself. I'm just right.
Speaker 2: I can't you know, I don't have really a filter.
Speaker 2: So I was on Dan Patrick and asked me something,
Speaker 2: what do you ask do you remember? The question was, yeah,
Speaker 2: probably to do I think some do.
Speaker 4: People smoke in the NFL, And like I don't like
Speaker 4: to like give numbers or like dry snitch on people.
Speaker 4: So it was just kind of like, I mean, I've
Speaker 4: done it from time time, you know, And then it
Speaker 4: became this thing like there were memes with me, uh
Speaker 4: sucking a bong with like bloodshot eyes and it's a
Speaker 4: Chris bong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hilarious. And then for a year, like every
Speaker 2: fan I met, like at a bar, was like you high,
Speaker 2: or like you want to go or you want to
Speaker 2: go to the fucking alley with me? Man, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to smoke your fucking reggie weed. Like Alli, dude,
Speaker 2: Like I'm paranoid.
Speaker 4: I'm paranoid talking to you. You think I want to
Speaker 4: go smoke with you? So I do think like that's
Speaker 4: kind of annoying with it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like we smoke on the pod like Doctor Fax is here,
Speaker 4: like our producers complain about the smell, and podcasting is
Speaker 4: hard high too.
Speaker 2: As you're noticing, I think I've been doing a solid
Speaker 2: I've been doing great. I feel like I'm in it.
Speaker 2: Like on you were like, fuck, what are we doing? Well?
Speaker 3: Sometimes you just ended with a glance. I mean I'm thinking, oh,
Speaker 3: I wasn't really listening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I even the problem dude, Oh my god. But honestly,
Speaker 2: that shit, that shit makes you better at a lot
Speaker 2: of things like you know, like you you know.
Speaker 4: For me, I'm like I can relax focus kind of
Speaker 4: like that sort of thing like crazy ADHD.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just all over the place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that stuff definitely, I've heard can help quite a
Speaker 1: bit for other people. But me, the word on the
Speaker 1: street is that it can help. Yeah, I heard do
Speaker 1: you have ADHD?
Speaker 2: Hard? So maybe it could help you.
Speaker 1: I have ADHD is so bad that when Rabel was
Speaker 1: ahead when he was like his first year as a
Speaker 1: head coach and called me in his office in like November,
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you should probably go get tested for ADHD. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: like that bad. I was like, really, like you thinks so?
Speaker 1: And he's like yeah, So I went and did it,
Speaker 1: and like you're supposed to go through like two or
Speaker 1: three like.
Speaker 2: Test it off the charts. I tested off the charts, bro,
Speaker 2: I believe it. She's like, how do you feel about this?
Speaker 2: Is this?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, I feel like I would
Speaker 1: answer the questions or whatever like ten minutes and she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you have ADHD and then for describe me riddling
Speaker 1: or one of those. And I looked at the I
Speaker 1: fucking had the pill and I looked at it, and
Speaker 1: I go, do I want to become that person that
Speaker 1: is like changes like myself, Like this has changed my
Speaker 1: brain chemically. Because it's weird to say, but I fucking
Speaker 1: love myself, Like I love like the way my brain works,
Speaker 1: and I love how I see things and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and like if I start taking this, am I gonna
Speaker 1: start seeing the world through a different filter.
Speaker 2: That's got cool. Yeah, so I never took it ever,
Speaker 2: but I would act like I was on riddle in
Speaker 2: when I was in the building. So you try to
Speaker 2: put on a facade that you could actually google. I
Speaker 2: googled them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like legitimately, I'm one of those people like
Speaker 1: if you tell me how you can't do that, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go do it, right. I know that
Speaker 1: sounds kind of cheesy and gave it to say, but
Speaker 1: like I like googled. I google like side effects of
Speaker 1: what's that?
Speaker 2: I think we'll posted it the other day somewhere. I
Speaker 2: google like side effects Fuck this guy because of the
Speaker 2: bus just gives me showing King man cogatuating King sitting
Speaker 2: and I gotta take a piss, might have a small bladder, please?
Speaker 2: I got a big bladder. No, I got a big fighter, dude. Dude,
Speaker 2: that's fucking hilarious. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I didn't take the riddling. I decided that I
Speaker 1: was just gonna act like I was on riddling, and
Speaker 1: I did for the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: Better to just raw raw dog life, man, Just be
Speaker 2: who you are.
Speaker 4: Now, I can't say that for everybody, because for some
Speaker 4: people it's very disruptive. Not everybody gets to be not
Speaker 4: everybody with eighty h she gets to be a child
Speaker 4: the rest for thirty years. Yeah, you know, nice, Like
Speaker 4: I'm not saying a wild taking incredible discipline. No, but
Speaker 4: you need what you're saying is one hundred percent correct.
Speaker 4: Our D line room is like a daycare center, dude. Like,
Speaker 4: dude's laying on the floor like our Mike Waffle, our
Speaker 4: D line coach, who was like this former marine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had this whole like way of thinking
Speaker 2: about like a D line brain.
Speaker 4: And we got cell phone breaks, we got to sit
Speaker 4: like in certain piers, we got to lay on the ground,
Speaker 4: We just talked.
Speaker 2: We threw things at each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we made sure we got through the film because
Speaker 4: he knew that everybody was so fucking touched in a way.
Speaker 2: Dude, it's tough.
Speaker 1: I had a coach just like that, Russ Grimm, who
Speaker 1: is like he could tell that we were getting like
Speaker 1: just you know how the season is. It's just fucking
Speaker 1: long and it's crazy.
Speaker 2: And we would go we'd hit.
Speaker 1: The film and he'd be like, instead of watching all
Speaker 1: sixty five snaps, he'd be like, pull up those twenty
Speaker 1: five clips and rip those clips were quick. And then
Speaker 1: he'd be like, all right, Ben Jones, Taylor, get on
Speaker 1: the board. The word is superfluous. And then you would
Speaker 1: take the word. You'd have one minute to make as
Speaker 1: many small words as you could out of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we would just play and look at YouTube, and
Speaker 1: we had uh. We had a office line and Josh
Speaker 1: Clin who was like straight up Josh out the gate, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hardcore ADHD. He wouldn't take his medicine on Saturdays and
Speaker 1: we all call him Jiggles because he was fucking off
Speaker 1: the walls.
Speaker 2: Like it could not better for y'all than us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because y'all play a position that that that you
Speaker 4: need to be focused and you have so many variables
Speaker 4: in y'all's playbook and what you do from play to
Speaker 4: play like we're like nine techniques.
Speaker 2: React.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're very reacting. Oh it is New England superstructured.
Speaker 4: Oh listen, dude, Like and I don't know, it's a
Speaker 4: great it's the system has worked. We were there number
Speaker 4: one scoring defensively and we were not talented. We have
Speaker 4: the best players in the league. Well, the Patriots are
Speaker 4: never liked that.
Speaker 1: They never have like this star studded cast of like
Speaker 1: they have ten elite guys on the on the defense.
Speaker 2: They just constantly the coaching is pretty incredible. There's a
Speaker 2: big my dog, my dog you to the Patriots. Let
Speaker 2: me get in this mango.
Speaker 4: We're talking about scheme in New England, how complicated it is.
Speaker 4: We were talking about how if you're a d lineman
Speaker 4: you really don't need to know much respectfully, like you
Speaker 4: need to like if you want to take to the
Speaker 4: next level where it's the safety, like you know, like
Speaker 4: what are the tendencies like looking at formations but like, honestly,
Speaker 4: a lot of guys don't do that in the league.
Speaker 2: Who with who you've played with? Who does informations of sun?
Speaker 2: Tell you who does it? Who does not or does so?
Speaker 2: Who does it? Okay, Aaron oh, one hundred percent. Let
Speaker 2: me tell you about it.
Speaker 4: I tell his story a lot when I was a
Speaker 4: rook where he was a rookie and this was like
Speaker 4: three days and so I figured out that he was
Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer two days earlier. Yeah, he fucking
Speaker 4: I used to like watch film a little bit because.
Speaker 2: You know, like I'm not that good, so second overall
Speaker 2: pick yeah, but not that good though, like like like
Speaker 2: not like that, you know, So I got to give
Speaker 2: a little my little edge.
Speaker 4: So I'd be there at the end of camp and
Speaker 4: like come in and watch like twenty minutes of film.
Speaker 4: Not crazy, but just come in at the end. And
Speaker 4: that room was always open. I'd never had to kick
Speaker 4: anybody off the chair. And I can remember the third
Speaker 4: day in it's the Son's going down or whatever it is,
Speaker 4: and everybody's out of the building and I walk in
Speaker 4: there and Aaron Donald's sitting there watching film and he's
Speaker 4: not doing his show off. There's no coaches in the building.
Speaker 4: He's doing that because he's like serious about his craft.
Speaker 4: And I'm telling you, this dude like his film like
Speaker 4: nobody I played with, and he's more talented than everybody
Speaker 4: I play with.
Speaker 2: So that's what makes me.
Speaker 3: He's on the line, and he's on the line, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Oh yeah, he's understanding forms separates
Speaker 3: him from.
Speaker 2: Even his competition.
Speaker 4: And that's why that guy is so great is because
Speaker 4: he's perfect here and he's perfect you know, as a.
Speaker 2: As we see and we all see a physique. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the thing people don't know.
Speaker 1: He's like, this is the greatest of all times, the
Speaker 1: go defensive the best defensive lineman of all time, defensive player.
Speaker 2: Best three technique of all time.
Speaker 4: Right now, I mean you know the thing, Well, what
Speaker 4: do you what happens if, like, unless a suitcase falls
Speaker 4: out of a seven forty seven and crushes Aaron Donald tomorrow,
Speaker 4: he's the best three technique I've ever seen played.
Speaker 2: Respect No, because I'd have to look at numbers, but no,
Speaker 2: I mean, like, he's got a hundred sacks already. That
Speaker 2: puts him in the Hall of Fame, right He's a
Speaker 2: hundred sacks, He's a whole He's a Hall of Famer already.
Speaker 2: His competition, I don't want to leave anybody out, like
Speaker 2: great players like Warren sapp like one of the best
Speaker 2: players of all time period.
Speaker 4: So I'm not even saying it's a weak position. John
Speaker 4: Randall some of the best players of all time. I
Speaker 4: just I'm biased because I saw it up closed. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I feel like as a rusher the only guy
Speaker 4: he's got ninety eight sacks right now.
Speaker 2: Look at him trying to fit in that tuxedo. Look
Speaker 2: how thick his neck? You get the neck on him? Guy? Yeah,
Speaker 2: to measure his neck twice, they were like twenty six inches.
Speaker 2: Is that can? Are we doing like like the English
Speaker 2: metrics system here?
Speaker 4: Look at that fucking guy's Yeah, his abs, bro, but
Speaker 4: he works his fucking ass off.
Speaker 2: Dude. He's also like to sixty five in that photo.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's too sixty five, dude. He walks
Speaker 2: You think he's twenty five? Dude, I don't believe that.
Speaker 2: I promise you. Look at pictures of him from Pitt.
Speaker 2: That's two eighty five. No, but no, no, no, muscleways
Speaker 2: more than fat. I understand. I'm calling him fat at Pitt.
Speaker 2: But because I would not do that. Yeah, no, I
Speaker 2: would always find me on the bike. He's like, he's
Speaker 2: one of my buddies. But I don't want to roll
Speaker 2: up on me.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, I think no, I'm
Speaker 1: with you on Aaron All he's one of the Guaron
Speaker 1: one of the he's one of the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: To pull up a picture of him at at pitt
Speaker 1: that is, it's a completely different body style than it
Speaker 1: is now, completely different.
Speaker 2: Like think about it.
Speaker 4: A lot of kids don't even have like you know,
Speaker 4: you know, I have money to invest in their nutrition.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying he didn't, but I'm just saying, like
Speaker 4: this dude's eating cheeseburger is a pit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Like this guy, if you give him a million dollars,
Speaker 4: you know, like a check, I bet you he reinvests
Speaker 4: half of it in his in his work ethic, and
Speaker 4: in his body and in his his brand, which is
Speaker 4: his career. So like I bet you he's doing everything
Speaker 4: humanly possible to be out there and be at his best.
Speaker 1: Yeah you think, uh so your opinion would change if
Speaker 1: he would have retired after wringing the Super Bowl, if
Speaker 1: you would.
Speaker 4: Have retired, I don't believe, Like, Okay, I do think
Speaker 4: there's some room for interpretation on that thing, because like
Speaker 4: the greatest, the best of all time to do whatever
Speaker 4: it is, Like you've got guys in the Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame who didn't do it for twelve years, Like Carol
Speaker 4: Davis is.
Speaker 2: A perfect example. Cowboy Reid here, Yeah he's out there,
Speaker 2: Broncos fan. But like there are guys that you know,
Speaker 2: they're better than guys that played ten years and maybe
Speaker 2: have more yards than them or whatever. Yeah, you saw it.
Speaker 2: Like what does the film tell you Patrick Willis, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Patrick Willis, Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders, Alvin Johnson, Alvin Johnson,
Speaker 2: Like you can tell me because somebody plays like ten
Speaker 2: years longer that like you're gonna hold like certain stats
Speaker 2: against Calvin Johnson that were like just you know our
Speaker 2: crewing sacks or yards or to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know you want the sound bite, but
Speaker 4: I'll give it to you. Aaron Donald's the best of
Speaker 4: all time.
Speaker 2: And his position in my opinion, you get that clip,
Speaker 2: that clipping clipping, You guys are pros.
Speaker 3: I think you're trying to You're you're trying to ask too,
Speaker 3: like does he get labeled? Like is his title universally?
Speaker 1: Like when you when I say who's a great football
Speaker 1: player of all time? Who's a great football player of
Speaker 1: all times?
Speaker 2: People will always say Lawrence Taylor. No, No, No, I'm
Speaker 2: saying in general, I'm giving you a defense which we're
Speaker 2: gonna say. We're all gonna say Tom Brady White, Brady
Speaker 2: one the greatest.
Speaker 1: He's the great and that's the Or when I say
Speaker 1: what's the greatest defensive player of all time?
Speaker 2: If the first person comes to your mind isn't Aaron Dahl,
Speaker 2: then it's probably Reggie White or yeah, Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 4: I mean huge older coaches like I think Lawrence Taylor
Speaker 4: is the best of all time because the guy.
Speaker 2: I heard the guy had a fire ladder at.
Speaker 4: The hotel, Like, and you know what that's for to
Speaker 4: get out of the building right when the building's on fire.
Speaker 4: But it also helps when you want to sneak out
Speaker 4: the party night before the game.
Speaker 2: Oh, guys like think of yeah, then you think of all.
Speaker 4: We have to do to get ready and like hydrate
Speaker 4: and like when we get to an away game, I
Speaker 4: bet you go to your room, you drink as many waters.
Speaker 2: The first place I go to is the ivy. Oh
Speaker 2: I need an iv ID any of my.
Speaker 4: Hose back, Lawrence Taylor had an ivy of good time, dude,
Speaker 4: and Lawrence Taylor would come to the building and just
Speaker 4: fucking this is all here, says.
Speaker 2: So. I don't want to check, man, but I think
Speaker 2: it's well known.
Speaker 4: He came to the building, he'd take a nap, they'd
Speaker 4: wake him up, and he'd go, like, have five sacks, right, bro,
Speaker 4: like my best game in my career.
Speaker 2: Like everything goes into that, right.
Speaker 4: That's why to me, Lawrence Taylor is maybe the best
Speaker 4: defensive player of all time.
Speaker 2: Like, it's hard to compare. It's like two different jobs,
Speaker 2: two different generations. Too. I think it's much.
Speaker 4: Harder in football to compare like positions and say that
Speaker 4: guy is the best. Like basketball, there's a little less
Speaker 4: variability in what that player does on the court, you know.
Speaker 2: So I think it's hard to do the greatest of
Speaker 2: all time in football. You are great at conversations. You're
Speaker 2: having fun, don't you think he is?
Speaker 3: He's guy, and you have analogies to go on, analogies
Speaker 3: like it's just he's right after.
Speaker 2: This, after this, you're jumping on a plane. I am,
Speaker 2: but you don't want to stop when you have to leave. No, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's fine.
Speaker 4: Guy and this guy I have a lot of catching
Speaker 4: up to. Okay, yeah, we're good, Okay, we're good. We
Speaker 4: have lots of stay on the bus. Yeah by twelve thirty, Yeah,
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 2: Dude, I told you I was going to get here,
Speaker 2: and this man this morning is like when I land,
Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not mad, but You're team said you'd
Speaker 2: be here at eight forty five.
Speaker 1: I'm like, just well, he knew that I was. When
Speaker 1: Will call me, he's like, hey, Chris is gonna be here,
Speaker 1: my bro, I gotta work out.
Speaker 2: I can't make it. And he's like, hey, I was
Speaker 2: trying to literally coming in just to do our pod
Speaker 2: that he's leaving motivate you to work here here. I am, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you look awesome, dude. Thanks. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: you're right though. There's a lot of juggling on for Will. Okay,
Speaker 2: but I was gonna try to go around on you,
Speaker 2: but I know this isn't as much of a ball
Speaker 2: busting sessions. I got you back that you said team, team, team, Like,
Speaker 2: make sure where we I had. I gotta have Will's back, Like,
Speaker 2: is that like a code you have here?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, there's no code, but there's really not
Speaker 1: a good Yeah. What you got in there is that
Speaker 1: actual altos more stuff? Okay, Yeah, we're good when.
Speaker 2: You're going where you're in the draft right now? What
Speaker 2: are you doing at the draft?
Speaker 4: I am doing a course light draft segment. So well,
Speaker 4: we've been doing the course like draft segment. We're doing
Speaker 4: a live watch like first round and I can't think
Speaker 4: while I'm doing this, but yeah, no, like, so we're
Speaker 4: gonna do live.
Speaker 2: Watches with a couple of guys, like who do we
Speaker 2: have on? Who's coming by? Will black Man?
Speaker 4: You know he does like why Wine MVP, that's my movie.
Speaker 4: He's also got a great Twitter account. Yeah, you like
Speaker 4: when I signed on, I'm like, I want to see
Speaker 4: more guys like Will Blackman on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's thinking he was later in the game, so
Speaker 2: he's climbing. It's he's very clever, he's very Cray's kind
Speaker 2: of a wise ass. He really get on your ass
Speaker 2: on the timeline.
Speaker 3: It's funny too because you're like looking like I agree
Speaker 3: with you, Like Will is a great like Twitter follow Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: like you don't you're not able to like get all
Speaker 3: that growth that he Will should have me and Will
Speaker 3: should have so many fucking follows.
Speaker 4: Don't you hate that when you're like this is a
Speaker 4: banger and there's like twenty five likes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a banger, Yeah, twenty five. So Will's
Speaker 2: coming by? Who else come by there? Eric Armstead? Yeah
Speaker 2: gooda Eric said, Saints tackle.
Speaker 4: No Austin Eckler bullet what No, that's on Armstead on
Speaker 4: board material? Do you play the Niners this year? That's
Speaker 4: gonna be tough because we're gonna post that we'll pull this.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no league, No, we don't. We don't
Speaker 2: want to.
Speaker 4: Play Technique from San Francisco, the tall guy that somehow
Speaker 4: is still awesome.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I know.
Speaker 1: That is if you play an organ, right yeah, organ, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when him and him and Buckner with the two
Speaker 2: guys my dog dude, him and bucked over the two guys.
Speaker 1: There's a study place with the colts now and they
Speaker 1: had to choose between the two of them, and they.
Speaker 2: Traded for a nice trade to the cult just started
Speaker 2: saying ship. So what's what's Bolton board material between? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: what about it? Vegas.
Speaker 4: We're gonna have a great time. But it's been a
Speaker 4: I heard you talking about your fucking little schedule. Our
Speaker 4: guys has been crazy, dude schedule with my last couple
Speaker 4: of days, Like I was in Charleston for a guy's trip.
Speaker 4: We got down there the boys, Like I'm in a
Speaker 4: different stage of fatherhood. I could take these trips, had
Speaker 4: a great time, and then went straight to my golf
Speaker 4: tournament that was non stop, hopped on a burden, see
Speaker 4: you guys. And now we're gonna go to Vegas for
Speaker 4: three days and I think after I'm asleep for a week.
Speaker 2: So you pretty well right now I'm tired, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's pretty cool to call airplanes birds too.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's not like we do them enough, but
Speaker 4: like you can't stop on a jet. Yeah, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean if you say private jet. Also, what's
Speaker 4: your fucking what's your kind of like policy on posting
Speaker 4: pictures of your private airplane?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: I think that's very hairy. It's a very hairy situation.
Speaker 2: If you can do it, if you're when you do it. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we worried about you. I think it depends. I think
Speaker 2: it's private Willie. Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1: Really depends on first off, who you are and what
Speaker 1: your quote of what brand is. So I will we're
Speaker 1: to go and do that. It's right on brand because
Speaker 1: he posts everything. He's monetizing his child. Yes, like he's
Speaker 1: literally so that'll post.
Speaker 2: That's a funny thing. I'm not the only person bustings right. No, no,
Speaker 2: earlier because like it is you you're like, hey, that's
Speaker 2: hilariously doing that.
Speaker 4: You should be Oh dude, I am, And you're fucking
Speaker 4: funniest ship on Twitter. I don't think I was looking
Speaker 4: too much into anything.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking about the up when I said up and down,
Speaker 3: it's like I might still like I just hate fatherhood
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: No, you Yeah, it's tough night last night. It's all right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she didn't go down very well last night. But the
Speaker 1: whole being on a plane thing when you do it
Speaker 1: past the baton, Dude, I don't know how you feel
Speaker 1: about this, crystal when you get on a private plane,
Speaker 1: like you think it's the coolest thing ever.
Speaker 2: No, I just think it's great not to have just
Speaker 2: like yeah, but it's not like it's not like a
Speaker 2: oh I feel like like you know, like Alex Rodriguez
Speaker 2: or something. No, I'm just relaxed. Well when I whenever
Speaker 2: I get on it, whenever I.
Speaker 1: Get on a bird and I walk up to it,
Speaker 1: I always like super grateful, like have like low key
Speaker 1: like a reflection of like, damn, it's cool that I
Speaker 1: get to do this. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and you kind of you want to share that, you
Speaker 1: want to be like, look at this, But I have
Speaker 1: a hard time ever posting myself on it on a jet.
Speaker 1: You know where our brand is and what we do,
Speaker 1: how we're constantly tweeting about everything going on in our lives.
Speaker 3: It makes it easier to justify that. But no, it
Speaker 3: is most of the time. A lot of times we're
Speaker 3: just in our own head about it, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: But also players, other players do it.
Speaker 1: When I see other players do it, I'm like, come on, Bud,
Speaker 1: that's you. Yeah, but it's like that's if that's all
Speaker 1: they post.
Speaker 2: No, I don't post it. I don't post like like
Speaker 2: we'll do it sometimes. I will. If I was with Will,
Speaker 2: I would do it. That's weird, right, No, because because
Speaker 2: I've never done it on yours. Huh. That's the only
Speaker 2: reason I've never done it with yours. Yeah, oh it
Speaker 2: is right. You never never done it, Like you feel
Speaker 2: like I's a scary thing you both. I don't like. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't like people knowing that both.
Speaker 4: They're taking that picture and thinking, oh, like he knows
Speaker 4: it's not corny, and like it's like a leap of faith.
Speaker 2: But maybe it is corny. Yeah, the strength of numbers things,
Speaker 2: it doesn't it is numbers real time.
Speaker 4: Its right, right, it's kind of I think it's kind
Speaker 4: of like it's kind of like hard oh to like
Speaker 4: post a private jet picture, but also get to like, fuck, dude,
Speaker 4: it's cool.
Speaker 2: You were cool and you're telling an airplane where to go.
Speaker 2: It's like g t A. You're not going to do
Speaker 2: anything bad with it. You could.
Speaker 4: Came out until after the ride. Yeah, so my pilots
Speaker 4: aren't going to hear this. My pilots for the day
Speaker 4: they are.
Speaker 2: It's fucking dope. Hey for what I paid? Yeah, especially
Speaker 2: gas prices right now. Holy fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you must be hurting right now a little bit
Speaker 1: taking that thing to Vegas. Well, we know you ain't hurt, boss,
Speaker 1: I don't worried about it.
Speaker 2: Well the podcast phase off, Yeah, let's go, let's go, dude.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're probably taking care of it.
Speaker 3: No, partially, I was gonna say, come on, there's this business.
Speaker 3: I was your relationship with them with Blue Wire? Who
Speaker 3: is your relationship with Blue are wind.
Speaker 2: Better the wind?
Speaker 4: I mean, like the reason we we went with Blue
Speaker 4: Art and talking to Kevin Jones and those guys is
Speaker 4: like we don't as you can imagine knowing me a
Speaker 4: little bit, like I don't want to be meddle with dude,
Speaker 4: I don't want to have to deal with ship and
Speaker 4: you guys have some good breathing room too, I hear
Speaker 4: even being on barstool, like Will.
Speaker 1: Is a fucking wizard though, Dude, Yeah, I'm like you
Speaker 1: or I'm like, can I just come and do the
Speaker 1: podcast and enjoy myself?
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, that's not me. Really.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying is I don't like to be told
Speaker 4: what to do. You know what my producers are like
Speaker 4: that is not how he is because I produced the pod, dude,
Speaker 4: like these guys produce the pot with me, read me, Matt.
Speaker 2: We're a team.
Speaker 4: So like you know, I'm a little particular and uh
Speaker 4: and I don't I don't ever want to get a
Speaker 4: call and be like the pods too long.
Speaker 2: You want to micro manageer? You want to you want
Speaker 2: to micro manage yourself.
Speaker 4: You don't want I'm paying the bills, I'm running a business,
Speaker 4: you know, it's like that's been the craziest thing about
Speaker 4: this podcast is like you learn, you're learning a new skill,
Speaker 4: but I'm also learning to actually be an adult, like
Speaker 4: as I no doubt.
Speaker 2: I used to before.
Speaker 1: Hey, being a kid for thirty years like you said, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been able to be children for thirty years or
Speaker 1: a live dude.
Speaker 4: And and my guys that work with me probably know that.
Speaker 4: And I'm not always great at what I do, like
Speaker 4: you know, on the on the microphone. Hopefully our our
Speaker 4: audience likes it. But like I also think sometimes like
Speaker 4: it's hard to come to work with one of us,
Speaker 4: you know, like we're scattered, We're like all over the place.
Speaker 4: So these guys work super hard. But the Wind Blue Wire,
Speaker 4: they've been great. I love the Wing because I used
Speaker 4: to stay at the Wind like real talk, Like I
Speaker 4: go there on our trips as a player and just
Speaker 4: get blasted at the wind. Enjoy their break breakfast sausages
Speaker 4: and their fucking their their hash browns, their shape like
Speaker 4: triangles and they're beautiful.
Speaker 1: That's the best shape for a hash brown to, isn't
Speaker 1: it that? Or the McDonald's McDonald's and the way it
Speaker 1: slides out of that package. They fly smooth too, and.
Speaker 2: It's a little Christmas. You're a movement downstairs.
Speaker 1: I love how he's talking about his business. And we
Speaker 1: heard hash Burns were like, how about the mobiles?
Speaker 4: So I don't want to make this about me. I
Speaker 4: want to talk about hash podcasts.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 4: I know it's a weird thing, but you know how
Speaker 4: that is when you go on a guest to somebody
Speaker 4: and you're like, cognisant not making your podcast all about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Do you do that? Don't No, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm with you.
Speaker 3: He says he's suspicious since I see him cracking smile.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, it's funny starting to think about me,
Speaker 4: Like this is so cool because I'm such a fan
Speaker 4: of Will Compton obviously, you know, being Taylor Luan fan too,
Speaker 4: playing against Taylor.
Speaker 2: Huh, so you line you Will, You're a tattooed dude
Speaker 2: who's doing great in the league. Like we together. I'm
Speaker 2: with that, both Ted and white dudes, and that guys
Speaker 2: are the lad white dudes who are outspoken, strong chins,
Speaker 2: strong jaws, handsome boys. Because I've been it's so funny.
Speaker 4: I've been laughing at this motherfucker and we've played each other,
Speaker 4: but I've never met you.
Speaker 2: I know we were like we was like on the whole, bro,
Speaker 2: Like I don't talk on the fucking phone. I talked
Speaker 2: on the phone. I talk on the phone with Will Compton.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 4: But you know, the WIN is super cool and you
Speaker 4: know they give us freedom. And I don't always like
Speaker 4: to talk about the same thing as y'all probably do.
Speaker 4: Like some days I come in and if you like
Speaker 4: talking about something different and it's nice. I'm also self
Speaker 4: selective to run your podcast like that, Like I'm I'm
Speaker 4: not going to try to chase the crowd as y'all don't.
Speaker 2: You've done something unique, you'll.
Speaker 4: Never have to compare yourself to anything else because if
Speaker 4: you start doing that, then you try to be other people,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: If you start like what are they doing over there?
Speaker 2: You can you can copy.
Speaker 4: Certain things like how they put out socials, how long
Speaker 4: their pods are, that sort of thing. But I think
Speaker 4: if you start being like people like that person and
Speaker 4: that's how they're acting like, you can't do that because
Speaker 4: you're going to be not yourself. So I think, like
Speaker 4: it's really cool to be on our own, you know
Speaker 4: it sounds like you guys have latitude too. It's tougher
Speaker 4: because people don't like Blue Ears, you know, not as
Speaker 4: recognizable sometimes as some of the other brands. But it's
Speaker 4: growing and we really have to earn our keep and
Speaker 4: that's cool. I'm fine with that because the people that
Speaker 4: are listening really fuck with us. The people that don't listen, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't have to worry about. Last thing I ever
Speaker 4: want is somebody having to click on our content and
Speaker 4: being like this guy sucks and he's on my landing page,
Speaker 4: like you know, my you know, the ringer or Barstool
Speaker 4: is sharing this guy and he sucks. Well, if you're
Speaker 4: listening to us, like, that's your fucking problem, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. And that's the nice thing about kind
Speaker 4: of being on our own a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like it is cool being like part
Speaker 1: of Barstool for the reason you're saying, like it's toufy
Speaker 1: on Blue Wires, like when people are like, oh, you're
Speaker 1: with your barstool, right, Like kind of comes off a
Speaker 1: different way for a lot of associations, and it gives you, guys,
Speaker 1: so many podcasts, so many different ways to across pollen
Speaker 1: a and stuff.
Speaker 2: Like that. It's just it's super it's super benefits cool.
Speaker 4: That's really cool. You know, we've been able to cross
Speaker 4: pollinate a little bit with people from blue wire funny
Speaker 4: word to a cross pollinaire. But it's a fucking great
Speaker 4: word and we're using it.
Speaker 2: We're using it. I love it. You get to yell
Speaker 2: at me. I heard cross fertilized. I heard cross fertilized
Speaker 2: this weekend. Really, Yeah, dude, that's a weird deal. Those
Speaker 2: guys right, the bees, Yeah, the bees is where it's at,
Speaker 2: for sure. I cross fertilized, cross fertilized over across. You're
Speaker 2: you're a you're a You're a midwestern guy, So you.
Speaker 4: The mid fertilized, y'all are soy'll midwesterns is ready to
Speaker 4: be Like do you call me a hoosier?
Speaker 2: Why do y'all say that hoosier? You mean who don't?
Speaker 3: Really like?
Speaker 2: It's like a redneck. It's the word for rednecks. Isn't
Speaker 2: that what Indiana's slogan is. I'm just saying I don't
Speaker 2: feel like people go around just calling people hoosiers. Oh really,
Speaker 2: it's not a thing. Yeah, yeah, no, no, but I
Speaker 2: do feel like Hoosiers understood that you're like a like
Speaker 2: a red have a different dialect out there. We do.
Speaker 2: You've been out of Missouri, man was fertilized salt of
Speaker 2: the earth. I love Missouri, dude, but you don't. I
Speaker 2: don't love it in fucking July. But you don't love
Speaker 2: Emos pizza. I do not like Emos pizza. If you
Speaker 2: had never heard of pizza. He actually he's told me
Speaker 2: about it, but I don't.
Speaker 4: They Actually it's a long process. They it's like a
Speaker 4: really long process. They just put a piece of cheese
Speaker 4: that you've never heard of on Highway forty and then
Speaker 4: they just let the Missouri sun bake it on a
Speaker 4: piece of bread for like three weeks.
Speaker 2: I think. So it's a really long process to get that.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is true. Is this a
Speaker 2: real thing? No, I'm just shiitting. I was like, look,
Speaker 2: three weeks, do you think the pizza rips? And that's
Speaker 2: the biggest Like your taste buds are all about how
Speaker 2: you grew up.
Speaker 3: Really with that, I agree that you people think I'm
Speaker 3: weird as fuck for doing peanut butter sandwiches.
Speaker 2: Going to bring that up, bring it up, peanut butter
Speaker 2: sandwiches and chili. I thought that you were doing a
Speaker 2: bit like you know how people do fucked up.
Speaker 3: Food blossom viral he like did like a devil Day
Speaker 3: the other peanut butter and jelly and bro.
Speaker 2: I'll try anything, but probably not that thing. And that
Speaker 2: blows my mind. I used to really not bad will.
Speaker 2: Will made it for me one time and it was
Speaker 2: really good. I enjoyed it, right, I thought it was good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Were you medicating your ADHD at the time. No, I
Speaker 2: haven't medicated it. Come on, probably be better listening to Bro.
Speaker 3: No, I know that I have some peanut butter sandwiches
Speaker 3: in it, and if you like, mix a little bit
Speaker 3: of honey with that peanut butter.
Speaker 2: I was talking about marijuana. What about marijuana? You had
Speaker 2: the munchies? You know I don't smoke. We dude, I
Speaker 2: care about my career. I know that too. Joke, dude.
Speaker 3: So when I when we were in COVID, I was
Speaker 3: when we had the new nanogram testing. It went from
Speaker 3: like twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait we'd yeah, it was like one fifty or
Speaker 1: one fifty because it used to be like hey, you
Speaker 1: got a little speck and then is gone.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Will that was rude, not being I'm okay, now
Speaker 2: I'm starting to get in my bag.
Speaker 3: But so we were in COVID, so we're at home
Speaker 3: every day all day long, up late at night, playing risk.
Speaker 2: So the boy we would laugh about it and take.
Speaker 3: Sometimes like ID take an edible and then I'm sending
Speaker 3: a photo D when I'm in the est night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm taking a few edible.
Speaker 3: I might hire a guy to be with me when
Speaker 3: I'm so whenever the new CBA or the nanogram levels
Speaker 3: went up, I remember ordering on Amazon just all a
Speaker 3: lot of drug tests so I could figure out how
Speaker 3: many how many days in a row I could.
Speaker 2: Go without it being in my system, and then how
Speaker 2: long I took it for to exit my system. So
Speaker 2: that way I knew. Like when I'm like earlier, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I passed the test because in my head, like I
Speaker 2: did the science. During COVID, we were when we were
Speaker 2: trapped on Hey, he was playing chess. Sounds like Lebron
Speaker 2: talking about his game winning shot. I've already taken this shot,
Speaker 2: like I've.
Speaker 3: Done this time we get another bucks like, oh, this
Speaker 3: is just my joke. Test, he s, are you still
Speaker 3: doing that experiment and I'm like, yes.
Speaker 2: Heyde you knocked out of the park. Well, well get
Speaker 2: a fake dick. Just get a fake dick, dude, A
Speaker 2: fake dick would be so scary to do.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you have something in your pocket on
Speaker 1: the way end of the and then you got to
Speaker 1: like flop it out and hey dude, you got.
Speaker 2: To press on it. They don't imagine. I don't know
Speaker 2: what happens. I know I have no idea. One thing, dude.
Speaker 2: We were playing the Ravens my rookie year and I
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the toilet. I'm about to wipe. I
Speaker 1: pull the fucking tissue out and there's like a jingling
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the fun? So I keep pulling
Speaker 1: the tissue. A syringe fell out, like of a steroids.
Speaker 1: It's just just a syringe just came out of the
Speaker 1: toy like the toilet paper dispenser and fell.
Speaker 2: On the floor. Do you think a lot of people
Speaker 2: are shoving that ship in their butt? I don't know, dude,
Speaker 2: but I saw. I don't think a lot of people.
Speaker 2: I was like, in my mind, I'm like a couple.
Speaker 2: In my mind. I was like, there's no way that
Speaker 2: somebody on the funk out of here will I'm just
Speaker 2: messing around. I guess I had a PD what in
Speaker 2: my mind like about that? I forgot you know what,
Speaker 2: That's the thing I forgot about it. Like people take
Speaker 2: the wrong ship sometimes, crazy, treat the wrong sh crazy.
Speaker 2: How you think it's like the biggest thing in the
Speaker 2: world and then it kind of just goes away. That's
Speaker 2: like almost anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty much everything, sort of like, yeah, killing
Speaker 1: somebody like like ray Lewis, So what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I'm not laughing. OJ Murder we talked about OJ. I
Speaker 2: was at a NASCAR race recently. Yeah, it was nineteen
Speaker 2: Martin Trex Junior. Oh yeah, yeah, that guy's a guy.
Speaker 4: All right, pick a favorite NASCAR driver and uh and
Speaker 4: and I picked him and then it's really cool in nascars.
Speaker 2: You guys probably know, like they just hang out before
Speaker 2: the races.
Speaker 4: Like they're getting ready to basically play, you know, the
Speaker 4: buck Neers or something.
Speaker 2: You got to block JPP.
Speaker 4: But thirty minutes before you're sitting in like a garage
Speaker 4: talking to sponsors. That's like how they in their full
Speaker 4: NASCAR uniforms. I looked up I saw Martin TRUEX Junior.
Speaker 4: He's like Jesus. He was just like he had an aura.
Speaker 4: But I got to drive the pit car, How dope?
Speaker 2: Was that? Not the car?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 4: Car car car, pace car, that's the and I felt
Speaker 4: like Al Collings, the guy that was driving OJ around,
Speaker 4: because they're all right behind you, dude, it's like one
Speaker 4: hundred cop cars.
Speaker 2: And I probably I was changing the subject from Ray Lewis.
Speaker 2: He might have been there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Don't think he did it. I have no idea, dude,
Speaker 2: But have you met Ray Lewis? Yeah, but you you
Speaker 2: think he did it when I talked to him? I
Speaker 2: don't think so. Like I never spoke to him. I
Speaker 2: don't know that.
Speaker 4: I mean dragons, I know that, dude, and I didn't
Speaker 4: and I didn't and I wasn't there, so I was
Speaker 4: gonna ask, like, did he I don't think he did?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay? Is he a little too much of a
Speaker 2: me guy? Though? You think Vivor speech?
Speaker 3: And he like looked at me one time, call me
Speaker 3: five to one, then it'll forever be. He said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: they couldn't see what I was seeing five to one.
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, no, they couldn't, right, But that's
Speaker 3: the thing. Every day in college.
Speaker 2: They're great. They're great orange whores, bro, whatever the fuck
Speaker 2: that word is. They tell like amaze, they say things
Speaker 2: and people are just like, yeah, yeah, you're in the
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. People just say, yeah, you can say
Speaker 2: whatever you want. Huh what you want? Bro? That's what
Speaker 2: I do with my dad. But he actually says some
Speaker 2: cool really cool ship. Yeah. But you know, like if
Speaker 2: he ever doesn't, I'm like, yeah, I'll throw some guys
Speaker 2: who are like.
Speaker 3: Super into themselves about, Like these people are there going
Speaker 3: to tell a story, Let me get a story.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that, but what I am saying is like,
Speaker 4: when you when you're like that guy like you've been
Speaker 4: he's been pumping up NFL teams for Everything's motivational, Like
Speaker 4: he's you know.
Speaker 2: That kind of ray your dad right, No, not my dad.
Speaker 1: Yes, your dad gives off totally different vibes and sketch
Speaker 1: your commercials. I feel like I can walk up to
Speaker 1: him and fucking shake his hand, gi him a hug
Speaker 1: right away. Is a great person, dude, seems like a
Speaker 1: fantastic guy, down.
Speaker 4: To earth, played golf at my golf, turned me yesterday,
Speaker 4: like our title sponsor. Like he just brought him back
Speaker 4: to the house to kick it. Like he's just a
Speaker 4: good person, dude, you know. Like, yeah, I can't say
Speaker 4: enough about the dude. He's not like a lot of
Speaker 4: people I've met that played in the NFL that long.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with the Raiders too. He seems like he
Speaker 2: wasn't like that.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I imagine how Like I know everybody was young,
Speaker 4: but it's like, uh, some people are too good to
Speaker 4: be true.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this motherfucker's too good to be true. I
Speaker 2: think he's got some skeletons. No, but he was with
Speaker 2: ray Lewis.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I wouldn't want to. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't want to get into an alter case. My dad
Speaker 4: was a really good boxer in college.
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah.
Speaker 4: He's got hands, dude, so like, and they're very heavy.
Speaker 4: You know, he's got the heaviest hands of all time.
Speaker 2: My brother.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got some fucking he just seems like a
Speaker 1: do with heavy ass hands were dude, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what I don't know incognito, he's got fucking heavy hands.
Speaker 2: She's got some why I got it at like minus
Speaker 2: two hundred cow long I don't know if I agree
Speaker 2: with that. First off, I.
Speaker 4: Think Richie might tell you he's not real excited about
Speaker 4: tussling with Kyle and their boy is Kyle.
Speaker 2: I remember see him at the Casey game. Dude's fucking massive, bro, Bro,
Speaker 2: he walks away. Dude, a big fucking du He has
Speaker 2: a butt, he has like calves, like I sound like
Speaker 2: Mike Mayock right now. Yeah, you're scouting and I'm always
Speaker 2: scouting my brother.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like, look at him, look at him, and
Speaker 4: they're like Chris, he's coming off of three Like, I'm like,
Speaker 4: but what we get?
Speaker 2: You know, like six sixth three thirteen? That's bullshit.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's way more than that thirteen. He's a thick boy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got that good power metal piece.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's built from the bottom. Dude, he's supposed
Speaker 3: to come on the bus. He's got to come on
Speaker 3: the bus, on the bus.
Speaker 2: Funny he's got. He's got a good little following on
Speaker 2: Twitter too. He's fun. He's going to be actually doing
Speaker 2: it with us now. So look at the fans there
Speaker 2: and he's joined the squad like he's look at that
Speaker 2: that no beard looking ass. Boy. Do I think you
Speaker 2: look solid there. That's a good look. That's a good
Speaker 2: tough guy. Look, bro, tough guy. Look.
Speaker 4: You know I'm looking tough because they're fucking playing me
Speaker 4: in the fourth in this in Week seventeen, with home
Speaker 4: field locked up, I'm out there with the threes.
Speaker 2: Really, I look tough. That's a tough fucking deal.
Speaker 4: I'm thirty, I'm thirty three years old. I get two
Speaker 4: shots of toward all in me going to look happy
Speaker 4: out there? Bro, real talk Week seventeen, our Super Bowl year. Bro,
Speaker 4: it's zero degrees at the link. We're playing the Cowboys,
Speaker 4: they're playing Zeke, they're playing Win and they're playing all
Speaker 4: their guys in the stuts. Yeah, and I had to
Speaker 4: take some snaps really yeah? How many snaps?
Speaker 2: Like five to ten? Oh? Really? You play it half?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, so that weren't you. I was cold? Yeah,
Speaker 2: put it that way.
Speaker 1: I've never It's amazing. Isn't that just a crazy feeling
Speaker 1: that when you go and play an NFL game, if
Speaker 1: there's no thought of you not having to play the
Speaker 1: whole game. But there's never that thought, and so when
Speaker 1: you go play, it's like okay, balls out. You're not
Speaker 1: thinking like how many snaps are gonna have to get boy. Preseason,
Speaker 1: oh my god, and preseason that's the only thing you
Speaker 1: think about. Like you go in, like you're three four
Speaker 1: days before the game, and you're like, man, how much
Speaker 1: am I going to fucking play?
Speaker 4: I'm putting like I'm putting, like I'm like chipping my
Speaker 4: coach's cell phones to find out, like what's the plan.
Speaker 2: Then you go to the assistant coach and you're like, hey,
Speaker 2: what's up. I'm not really the Niners. Yeah you heard upstairs,
Speaker 2: and they guard it like fucking like like uh, you know, intelligent,
Speaker 2: which is.
Speaker 1: So weird because it's like eventually, like someone like you
Speaker 1: who's got a level of maturity, Yeah, I would be think. Okay,
Speaker 1: I can tell Chris, hey, you're only playing a series series,
Speaker 1: and I can tell you that two weeks from now,
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna like three days before I practice
Speaker 1: like funk around because you're not playing.
Speaker 4: You're gonna take it serious. Chris is afraid that the
Speaker 4: undrafted guy is going to take his job. Right, so
Speaker 4: we can tell I'm just way young talented, Hane. No,
Speaker 4: I wasn't, but the way you leaned in and smiled
Speaker 4: at me you're just always smiling.
Speaker 2: I think the opposite of my coach.
Speaker 1: It's crazy watching you high paranoid guys do a podcast.
Speaker 4: He can my co host. He's not good at smiling
Speaker 4: or laughing at your jokes. You like constantly give the energy,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what's the catch? You know there's no catch, man.
Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, I'm constantly thinking about the undrafted guys
Speaker 3: taking my spot.
Speaker 2: Are you really thinking that? Like, are you really thinking that? Dude?
Speaker 4: Fucking I'm thinking that that's the only way, Like, you
Speaker 4: know not, I'm not like late in my career, I
Speaker 4: was pretty good in my prime, but late in my career,
Speaker 4: I know what my I know the deal. Like you know,
Speaker 4: like you really have to earn your keep. So yeah,
Speaker 4: when you're out there in preseason, bro, like you can't
Speaker 4: take it. You can't half step. They're trying to get
Speaker 4: you out door anyways. You're not as cheap as a
Speaker 4: young guys, that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd be a tough bet to beat out too.
Speaker 3: Like if you're an undrafted cat, you're thinking, like you
Speaker 3: want the cock do you want the guys to be
Speaker 3: a little have a little arrogance, a little cocky coaches
Speaker 3: coaching them up a little bit, they're not actually retaining it,
Speaker 3: Like you're sitting there and being like, I kind of
Speaker 3: hope they don't remember.
Speaker 2: That's why I deleted my get them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I deleted myself to get out before
Speaker 4: somebody could delete me.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Oh, that's the dream, dude,
Speaker 2: Just delete yourself, dude before.
Speaker 4: So it's before like having a deal with the bullshit
Speaker 4: and you're like, you'll get there one day, hopefully it's
Speaker 4: five seven years.
Speaker 1: How long you want to play Thursday? How long you
Speaker 1: will play? Uh, that's a good question. I don't know
Speaker 1: where the Titans are at right now and the trajectory
Speaker 1: of what could be.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm like in it.
Speaker 1: I really like want to fucking play and I want
Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl real bad one I talked
Speaker 1: to about last week, by the.
Speaker 2: Way, really was he what was he doing? Oh? Really?
Speaker 1: I've never met him, but I feel like that dude
Speaker 1: has always been like, hey, Fittigan was here fifteen minutes ago.
Speaker 2: Type of deal.
Speaker 1: I would like go to like five oh five, which
Speaker 1: is a parper complex, and they'd be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Fittgan just left. Would go to Martin's Barbecue and oh
Speaker 1: Fittigan just left like it's just crazy ship like that
Speaker 1: got his ass by Yeah, but you know Johnson his credit.
Speaker 2: That's not the worst guy to get your asking, No, dude,
Speaker 2: he's a fucking beat little too. Yeah, like Dwight kicked
Speaker 2: his ass here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so fucking he But anyway, you
Speaker 1: said you were saying, dude, have hands.
Speaker 2: You were saying, uh, Finans Tannehill. Courtland's the best. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Cortland's the best, dude. I played with the Saint Louis people.
Speaker 2: Some people hate court because they playing against himcause he's
Speaker 2: a ship talker. By the way, you never capt to
Speaker 2: me actually talking ship. Yeah, I'll make it short and sweet.
Speaker 2: We were playing. It was the third game of the year.
Speaker 1: I believe you were on the team because it was
Speaker 1: eighteen and it was either it was either Conklin. It
Speaker 1: was his first game back. He had a real tough
Speaker 1: year coming back from his a cl or was a
Speaker 1: backup Likenlin. He's good, but that was like a real
Speaker 1: tough year from turned.
Speaker 2: Was that get him turned? Get him turned? Yeah, but
Speaker 2: he's head that heat. See, he missile of an outside hand,
Speaker 2: that kind of gets right in your chest. Unorthodox.
Speaker 1: Very he's a he's a very unorthodox. You watch him playing,
Speaker 1: You're like, what's going on here?
Speaker 4: And by the way, we're not exactly teeing off on
Speaker 4: you guys because you guys can run the football and then.
Speaker 1: Knocking it up people kind of getting that thing done,
Speaker 1: which is nice. But I remember you beat them around
Speaker 1: the edge and like hit the quarterback one time, and
Speaker 1: I'm blocking your boy, Barnett, and you kind.
Speaker 2: Of whisper in my eargo I'm on his ass all day.
Speaker 1: He kind of fucking It wasn't like it wasn't like
Speaker 1: you and you you just asked me to be part
Speaker 1: of water Boys that off season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had like a new shu.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like it wasn't like we're fucking boys boys,
Speaker 1: Like we're sitting on the podcast talking.
Speaker 4: I probably wanted to see if you were like, like
Speaker 4: frustrated by him, because then if you're frustrated by him,
Speaker 4: then the next play, I'm like, Taylor seemed frustrated with you.
Speaker 2: Oh, I see it. No, I don't playing chess out
Speaker 2: there that I don't play checkers with the ship talk
Speaker 2: like I'm not that cool and good. I love ship talking.
Speaker 2: It's my favorite thing. But you know, you got to
Speaker 2: play a little bit of chess. You know.
Speaker 1: When I think when I do condition in the off season,
Speaker 1: like when I go work out after we're done with this,
Speaker 1: like and I'm dying conditioning, my thought is, Hey, your
Speaker 1: reward is you'll be able to talk ship all game,
Speaker 1: no question.
Speaker 2: That's your reward for doing the condition right now. It's
Speaker 2: not for being shape for football.
Speaker 1: It's can I play football at a high level and
Speaker 1: be able to tell you how bad you are?
Speaker 2: Mouth? Yeah? Percent, Like you're like a wrestler. Uh in
Speaker 2: what way?
Speaker 3: Like you?
Speaker 2: You you you'd be good at promos? Like you do
Speaker 2: talk good? I do you like to talk shit? Yes?
Speaker 2: I'm more like a bro talk like, Oh I want
Speaker 2: you're a homie talker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want your game to come down a little bit,
Speaker 3: like I want to tell Earth's like, oh, bro, you're
Speaker 3: fucking exactly.
Speaker 2: I want to say that crushing it this year?
Speaker 5: Bro?
Speaker 3: And so that way he in his mind it would
Speaker 3: be oh, compass so much respect for me. Maybe I
Speaker 3: can take a little bit off. Yes, because he's he
Speaker 3: doesn't feel like he's gonna guard me. That doesn't need
Speaker 3: your level to come down a little bit.
Speaker 2: I just know.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it's also just like when you when you're
Speaker 4: nice to somebody that says the tone that it's not
Speaker 4: what it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like because Greg Olsen, this is a great example.
Speaker 3: Greg Olsen, he shit talked to me, called me like,
Speaker 3: what are you a fucking third stringer? Because I spider
Speaker 3: man webbed him after breaking him a pass, I like
Speaker 3: fucking WinCE and he's like, what.
Speaker 2: Do you like to fucking awesome? What do you like that?
Speaker 5: One?
Speaker 2: One more time?
Speaker 3: Anytime a dude, like a coach, like somebody messed up
Speaker 3: in a meeting or say something funny or pause or
Speaker 3: something like that, or like that's a dumb question, you'd
Speaker 3: like spray him across the room, like give a little
Speaker 3: on our team.
Speaker 2: It was like an inside joke. Yeah, So I did
Speaker 2: it to Olsen because I told the boys I would do, like, hey,
Speaker 2: do it if you make a play, I'm like all right,
Speaker 2: And so I did to also said who the fuck
Speaker 2: are you? What are you like? Third string? And I
Speaker 2: was like, hey man, hey, I work for this spot
Speaker 2: kind of like smile like just like that, and the
Speaker 2: next time out he said, hey man, I'm not bad, man.
Speaker 2: You know I didn't.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah exactly, I know you from this spot,
Speaker 3: Like I didn't mean that, Bro, that's that's all men.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Greg Old, Oh, it's all good, bro. Dan.
Speaker 4: Greg Olsen is a great dude. Also, I believe one
Speaker 4: of the best of what he does already. Really, you
Speaker 4: haven't heard him call game? You haven't either, I mean,
Speaker 4: but I listen I watch Greg Olsen's fucking good.
Speaker 2: In my opinion. Yeah, but it's not like Tony, so
Speaker 2: I feel like it's working, working on things.
Speaker 4: I'm also a fucking I'm also a lineman, so Tony's
Speaker 4: thing is not exactly going to be like circling a
Speaker 4: guard or like talking about a kickout block. Like I
Speaker 4: get so mad watching games because people just their line
Speaker 4: play terminology is so bad and then you regurgitated by
Speaker 4: the fans and it's like extra frustrating.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Tony does.
Speaker 4: It, but quarterbacks, wide receivers, they don't pay attention to us.
Speaker 4: Greg had to block six techniques, so Greg like knows
Speaker 4: the words, he knows everything, So I think he's very good.
Speaker 2: Dude, take tech no joke at tight end, dude, Yeah,
Speaker 2: a fucking joke and they started that media company him
Speaker 2: in Vince Vaughan. Oh did he Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 2: I fucking love It's fun. Yeah, it might be one
Speaker 2: of the shows on the in the I love Greg Dude.
Speaker 4: I used to party on in Greg's brother played at Virginia.
Speaker 4: So we go down to Miami for spring break and uh,
Speaker 4: Greg Olsen's house.
Speaker 2: A bro, Hey, what's that? He's not that hydrated? Huh coming, bro?
Speaker 2: You need more? You need more in space, bro, I
Speaker 2: gotta he can tell he's recently hydrated. He needs an
Speaker 2: extended fuel to hank. Honestly, need something, Dude.
Speaker 1: When you first, like remember in high school, when you
Speaker 1: like start drinking water for real, I start getting hydrated,
Speaker 1: you'd pissed like eight, nine, ten times a day. Well
Speaker 1: then you said eventually, yes, you're actually hydrated. Yes, well
Speaker 1: he's not hydrated, no will he's not.
Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, the scariest thing in the world is
Speaker 4: when you binge drink and you think, like, after thirty
Speaker 4: six hours, not only have I just been drinking alcohol,
Speaker 4: but do I remember a water, dude?
Speaker 1: And after like you low key feel like you're cramping everywhere,
Speaker 1: Like you can't make any sudden move otherwise.
Speaker 2: I was as I've always been a cramper. You cramp
Speaker 2: oh like nothing you ever had like a full body
Speaker 2: on the plane, Yeah, I did, dude, scariest thing ever. No, no, no, sorry,
Speaker 2: not in a body on the plane. Not on a plane.
Speaker 2: I had a dude.
Speaker 1: Not didn't happen to me. But I had a buddy
Speaker 1: who got a full body in the cold tub one time.
Speaker 1: Oh and he full bodied and then slowly was sinking
Speaker 1: into the water and he couldn't get himself out of it.
Speaker 2: And he watched the whole thing. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: He told me about this.
Speaker 1: I was like, He's like, my head, good luck, budd
Speaker 1: He's like tackle.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: He was a guardist. He was Patrick o'mamay. It was
Speaker 1: at Michigan and the trainers like came and grabbed him
Speaker 1: as he was going underwater.
Speaker 2: But he would have died. Yeah. Hell, I like to
Speaker 2: think even in a full body crampy, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that just goes to show yea locked up like
Speaker 4: you're Jack. He's Jack Titanic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he can't get up and fucking we had
Speaker 2: guys going to it on the plane where you're like
Speaker 2: there's nowhere to go.
Speaker 4: Dudes are in the aisle just like Yeah, I don't
Speaker 4: feel safe right now. I'm like Aaron Marshall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like nothing somebody, dude, Yeah, it sucks for you.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about the full body cramps. That's all right.
Speaker 2: I used to I used to get them quite a bit. Actually,
Speaker 2: are you really ran like that? I was trying to
Speaker 2: you don't miss anything. This is fun, dude. You know what.
Speaker 2: I believe that the worst in the world.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 2: Jack gave me the phone. I had to fucking I
Speaker 2: don't want to go though. Well, we'll do this again.
Speaker 2: We'll do this again. We're gonna figure out other ship
Speaker 2: to do. We go to come on a green lights.
Speaker 2: Will and I are going to keep keep talking when
Speaker 2: he leaves. Oh yeah, I'm done. Hey twenty more, You're good?
Speaker 2: When do you? Oh? Before I go the draft? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who are some studs you think are actual studs? More importantly,
Speaker 1: tell me about.
Speaker 2: Adam studs you think are actual study actual stuff.
Speaker 1: Because I heard this draft is not strong. I've been
Speaker 1: told that this draft ST's wrong. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's because there's not many quarterbacks in it, but
Speaker 1: I heard it wasn't great, but I want to know
Speaker 1: about it's not.
Speaker 2: It's not a it's not an incredibly strong draft.
Speaker 4: No, I think the middle rounds, from what it sounds like,
Speaker 4: are really like listening to guys that know middle rounds
Speaker 4: are good and I'm not. I'll get to Aiden, but
Speaker 4: I think, uh, I think the problem is like a
Speaker 4: ton of teams are just opting out of the first round.
Speaker 4: We just had less need on our pod and he
Speaker 4: was talking about his first round picks and shit in
Speaker 4: which he doesn't have, like guys playing golf all this week.
Speaker 4: I think the lowest amount of first round picks in
Speaker 4: the in the first round, first round picks in the
Speaker 4: first round since the eighties is this year. So like,
Speaker 4: you are not investing in the first round, and I
Speaker 4: don't know if it's because of this draft. To your point,
Speaker 4: I think the edge guys, it's hard for me to
Speaker 4: figure out who's the guy. Honestly, I really like Aiden.
Speaker 4: I had him on my pod. I love the fucking guy.
Speaker 4: He gets the Chris Long comps, which I think, like
Speaker 4: I hate when guys get those comps. Is that well
Speaker 4: because it's kind of a backhanded comp because like you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't do like one twenty. I did seventy, you know,
Speaker 4: which is fine, Like it's a great career, But when
Speaker 4: you're picked in the top five, like what they're saying
Speaker 4: is you're a high floor guy, right, So I don't
Speaker 4: love that that every white guy gets compared to me, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, give him a Nick Bosa every now and again.
Speaker 4: That would be fun for that kid. But I think
Speaker 4: Aiden's somewhere in between. I think that the comps for
Speaker 4: him have been really irresponsible. I think the best comp
Speaker 4: for Aiden is like Patrick Kearney, who I don't know
Speaker 4: if you remember Patrick Kearney, eighty something SAT guy in
Speaker 4: the NFL, which to me is like pretty amazing, Like
Speaker 4: that's a one percent career.
Speaker 2: That guy is tall.
Speaker 4: You know, he's maybe not got the longest arms. I
Speaker 4: think that's the one thing I worry about with Aiden
Speaker 4: is like he doesn't have that long arms, and you know,
Speaker 4: he's taller. So when you play taller guys, you got
Speaker 4: to assume to make up for the lack of leverage
Speaker 4: they have length.
Speaker 2: So the thing he makes up for with is really
Speaker 2: good technique. He seems like he's a good technique. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then the kid in Oregon. He didn't even know
Speaker 2: how to put his hands on guys yet. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying he's not a worker, he's not a technician, but
Speaker 2: if he gets with the right coach, I think his
Speaker 2: upside's crazy. Do you think Thibodau's got a higher ceiling?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's not a slight Again, we're talking about
Speaker 4: we're cutting hairs here. And part of it is like
Speaker 4: when I hear somebody compared to me, I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: I don't know if i'd take me in the top five,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I probably take me
Speaker 4: at twelve or fifteen. So like, I think I think
Speaker 4: Aiden's got a shot to prove out a top five career.
Speaker 4: But I do think Cavon is exciting. I think the
Speaker 4: kid from Florida State is really exciting too. But then again,
Speaker 4: it's hard, Like these guys have hard jobs. I watched
Speaker 4: the Florida State kid played Notre Dame and he had
Speaker 4: a bunch of tackles and PFLs and sacks. But you
Speaker 4: know this, that doesn't mean you played a great game, right,
Speaker 4: I mean you won a bunch of rushes. But then
Speaker 4: he beats a lot of other teams, so it's really
Speaker 4: hard to call it this year with the edge guys,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 2: I don't know who the stud is, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? First of all, pick who are you picking? Though?
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna go with the Walker kid from Georgia.
Speaker 2: I really do, really I do, wow, because I think
Speaker 2: Trent likes him.
Speaker 4: I think Trent Balky likes him, and and I think
Speaker 4: he's he's into like, you know, guys with great measurables,
Speaker 4: and this kid not only plays really hard, but he's
Speaker 4: got great measurables. The one they're gonna worry about with
Speaker 4: Treymon Walker, he's you know, he'll kind of get back there.
Speaker 4: And I wasn't a great finisher at times, like if
Speaker 4: I could tackle who knows here right? But who knows
Speaker 4: here right? Treyvon Walker misses a lot of sacks. He
Speaker 4: also doesn't have a ton of production, and part of
Speaker 4: that's the Georgia defense. But you talk about like a
Speaker 4: long armed guy who can fucking make all those garbage
Speaker 4: sideline to sideline tackles, who can run people down, who
Speaker 4: can be disruptive, you can rush him inside. It's really
Speaker 4: a fit class, Like it's all about the fit. Who's
Speaker 4: your what do you need on your team?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's why I like Ayden to Jacksonville if
Speaker 4: they did it from a fit Sandpoints.
Speaker 2: They have Josh Allen, who's a different kind of player.
Speaker 2: You know, what do you mean by that?
Speaker 4: He's just friend like, he's a little bit more springy,
Speaker 4: he's a little bit more explosive. I think, honestly, I
Speaker 4: think Josh Allen was underrated coming out O all pick
Speaker 4: Yeah no, but he was underrated by people because he
Speaker 4: played at Kentucky. So I think when you look at
Speaker 4: those two body types and you look at like the
Speaker 4: analyticism and this isn't like a white guy shot at
Speaker 4: a Hutchinson, They're just different, you know, Like hutch isn't
Speaker 4: isn't like a ten yard split guy.
Speaker 2: And that's not a he's gonna do you run the
Speaker 2: combine six ten yards? But we're talking about ten yards.
Speaker 2: Oh I bet it's one six two.
Speaker 4: I think it is one six two, which to me
Speaker 4: is not like holy shit, Like I don't when I
Speaker 4: watch Aiden Hutchinson play, he's not like just burning the
Speaker 4: corner and that's not a slight No, He's different.
Speaker 1: Different body types like JJ Watt is a hall of
Speaker 1: Fame player. He is not burning the corner on anybody,
Speaker 1: but he what JJ Watt was really good at was
Speaker 1: the top of the rush. I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: noticed that, but like you know, it's it's it's all
Speaker 1: the sacks that we would miss.
Speaker 4: We'd win with our hands and get washed. But he
Speaker 4: has le and like really good like ankle flexion and
Speaker 4: body control.
Speaker 2: Until he hurt his back, dude, he could still kind
Speaker 2: of It wasn't like he was just running by guys.
Speaker 2: But there's only like a couple of guys in the
Speaker 2: league who run by guys. Yeah, yeah, he's JJ Watt. Well,
Speaker 2: I never had to play against him, Yeah, I know
Speaker 2: I have. I mean I haven't played against him very much,
Speaker 2: and I played against him for six years twice a year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The only problem is he checks people. He goes down
Speaker 1: the line, who's having a tough day, no question, and
Speaker 1: he just I got in fact, my my rookie year,
Speaker 1: my rookie year.
Speaker 2: He tried me for like twenty five snaps in a
Speaker 2: row and your boy your own Hey, I did.
Speaker 1: In my head, I'm like, yo, you're lowkey looking now,
Speaker 1: JJ Watt, right now, in my rookie year and then
Speaker 1: he left and like since then he's kind of been gone.
Speaker 1: I probably had like in the last seven years after that,
Speaker 1: thirty more snaps against him, forty more snaps like he's
Speaker 1: always he hasn't been the same since he played you.
Speaker 4: I ruined him, And honestly I had the same kind
Speaker 4: of had Taylor Kyle had the same kind of game
Speaker 4: against and Dominican su where like as a young player,
Speaker 4: a guard in Chicago that kind of got drafted to
Speaker 4: like b lock this guy.
Speaker 2: He was like, you know, he's one of the scariest guys.
Speaker 2: Like he's not only good, but he's also right. And
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed meeting him the times I've been around too,
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, what did you hate? You hate him?
Speaker 3: Okay, no, he is a gentleman, but the motherfucker he's
Speaker 3: smart to he's got warm buffett on like his board.
Speaker 4: I love that he's so smart and so like when
Speaker 4: I was around him, I was like, this guy, could
Speaker 4: I could do a book club with this guy?
Speaker 2: Like he's going to beat me to death, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So he's a different cat on the I had
Speaker 4: the same time type of thing where it's like this
Speaker 4: is a big confidence boost for me. I saw this guy,
Speaker 4: so all right, tell you, bro, I know I'm super
Speaker 4: I'm heartbroken about it.
Speaker 2: You want to know what I was? I think just
Speaker 2: going to show you were you really? They'd always show
Speaker 2: your clip see you ball?
Speaker 4: All right, buddy, it was great saying as you two
Speaker 4: dude talk about the draft and then let's kick it
Speaker 4: some time when we don't have to do this.
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Speaker 2: To you like you guys.
Speaker 3: You guys run into the block and pass rushing stuff.
Speaker 3: So that's more of like a like I said back,
Speaker 3: but I'd love to talk about podcasting.
Speaker 2: Bro. Let's talk about it. Bro, that's the meeting of
Speaker 2: the mind. How do you feel about it?
Speaker 3: Because I was listening to you earlier and it's like
Speaker 3: the same transitions I'm sitting there, Like you're actually working
Speaker 3: with people who use email and organizing and a way
Speaker 3: more structured and you hire people that understand that game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't feel like we do as much going
Speaker 2: into it, and that's something like we've learned.
Speaker 4: I think the problem is, like these guys will probably
Speaker 4: tell you, we're so like built on trust, Like when
Speaker 4: you're on a team, you got to like so I
Speaker 4: think the hardest part is like building trust among each
Speaker 4: other that you know, we know first, like what the
Speaker 4: protocols are, like kind of how we get content out
Speaker 4: like how things get done, and then like actually, like
Speaker 4: can we all handle our responsibilities? And I got some
Speaker 4: hard working guys that answer the bell every day, so
Speaker 4: like I trust them, you know. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: like I have, I have like a way I like
Speaker 4: things done, and and I'm also learning to do all
Speaker 4: the little things that you didn't imagine doing as a podcaster.
Speaker 4: So if you like everything done the way you like
Speaker 4: get done, you also have to try to get into
Speaker 4: those spaces and learn those skills.
Speaker 2: I think it's really fucking hard, dude. Yeah, and if not,
Speaker 2: you got to.
Speaker 4: Understand, yeah, what the people who are actually doing exactly.
Speaker 4: And the good thing is, like you said, like you
Speaker 4: trust your guys. I trust my guys, you know. Like,
Speaker 4: so you know, like you work towards a place where
Speaker 4: you don't have to do as much. I think when
Speaker 4: you're getting some off the ground, if you want it
Speaker 4: done the way you want it done, like you have
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I see you doing a lot of things, you know,
Speaker 4: on your own, and I think that's what's really cool
Speaker 4: about you, is like you not only podcasts well, but
Speaker 4: you also run a like kind of an operation well,
Speaker 4: like you know, what I mean, Taylor's playing sometimes like
Speaker 4: you're fucking and you got to handle.
Speaker 2: A lot of shits. And that's the hardest part is
Speaker 2: not the fucking this dude, isn't that crazy. I feel
Speaker 2: like a lot of like that's what's not really understood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like even as podcasters going into it, like
Speaker 3: I don't feel like we like I know, for me,
Speaker 3: I didn't think it took like all this kind of work.
Speaker 2: So I'm reading books and shit or like leadership. You
Speaker 2: sent me one of the books. How is it? I
Speaker 2: haven't ordered it yet. I was gonna say, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I remember sending it to you, know you recommended it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well you might have been high. So I got another one.
Speaker 2: I got another one for you.
Speaker 4: Okay, I send it to you though, but the chances
Speaker 4: are right I should get through the first one because
Speaker 4: I'm not a big book reader.
Speaker 2: But when I did see the title, I was like, traction.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's cool. You told me it. It
Speaker 2: kind of taught you how to like be a leader.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing, dude. You're a leader.
Speaker 4: You're a leader in the NFL like special teams guy,
Speaker 4: but you're a fucking leader, like mats.
Speaker 2: On Special teams guys. Yea in your career special teams.
Speaker 4: Guy, like you were a captain as you know, like
Speaker 4: people in Tennessee, Like you weren't playing every down in Tennessee,
Speaker 4: but like people every from every corner of the locker
Speaker 4: room gravitated towards you because you have like a little
Speaker 4: bit of it, dude, Like you got charisma and ship
Speaker 4: and like you're fucking real guy. But that doesn't translate
Speaker 4: necessarily to like the business world.
Speaker 2: It does in a way that like you know how to.
Speaker 4: Work and be a teammate, but leadership doesn't necessarily translate
Speaker 4: to the business where you have to learn how to
Speaker 4: Like we have a funny joke where at who's here,
Speaker 4: Like we had this big meeting.
Speaker 2: It's not that big, it's just a meeting.
Speaker 3: And I.
Speaker 4: We had a podcast the next day and we did
Speaker 4: this airing of grievances, which is fun. Like you guys
Speaker 4: should try that sometimes if you guys are like have
Speaker 4: you're mad at each other for shit?
Speaker 2: You just turn the mics on and talk about it.
Speaker 2: And Matt was like, I have one, and I was like,
Speaker 2: what is it? He's like in the meeting yesterday, you
Speaker 2: called us all motherfuckers, and I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 2: I did hold on a second, no, I know, and
Speaker 2: I motherfuckers. This one hold on the funniest it is.
Speaker 2: I go, god damn that was.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't remember that, and I'm sorry
Speaker 4: if that hurts your feelings or whatever, but like what
Speaker 4: was the context?
Speaker 2: And he was like, well, you said you guys are
Speaker 2: some hard working motherfuckers. I'm like, that's a fucking compliment
Speaker 2: I come from.
Speaker 4: If I call you a hard working motherfucker, if I
Speaker 4: call you a motherfucker, like that guy's.
Speaker 2: A motherfucker, you're a motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 4: Hey, if you've blocked that kid from fucking Iowa, he's
Speaker 4: a motherfucker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that that kind of thing.
Speaker 4: And it's just like, I know, we can talk like that,
Speaker 4: and we were kind of joking, but it is tough,
Speaker 4: like you got to adjust your like cadence and kind
Speaker 4: of like how organized you are and like you can
Speaker 4: be a leader on the football field without having real
Speaker 4: world leadership skills right.
Speaker 3: Right right and keeping like I think for me, like
Speaker 3: you want you want things done a certain way, and
Speaker 3: then it like if it wasn't you more so have
Speaker 3: to go like I felt for me, I had to
Speaker 3: go like more internal, like why am I getting so
Speaker 3: upset about this? If I want to done a certain way,
Speaker 3: maybe I need to communicate better Like your EQ I
Speaker 3: feel like has to go up, no questioning in the
Speaker 3: seat of like doing operative stuff.
Speaker 2: We're bad textures.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you are a bad texture, but
Speaker 4: like I think I think I've been a fla Okay,
Speaker 4: I was trying to say, like I didn't want you
Speaker 4: to be like, well, that's not that fucking weird. But
Speaker 4: I'm a terrible texter. I spent years in D line
Speaker 4: group text like we just text in shorthand. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: we just don't communicate fully with like what we're what
Speaker 4: we're trying to say, right, and like for like two years,
Speaker 4: these guys are reading terrible, you know, edit notes and
Speaker 4: and like texts and you know, like maybe even emails
Speaker 4: sometimes yeah, and uh, and I'm just not doing a
Speaker 4: good job at it. I'm not making myself clear enough,
Speaker 4: I know. But they also have to say, Chris, you
Speaker 4: suck at that.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 4: There's definitely like both sides can learn how to get
Speaker 4: to be that's the dynamic of they're not they're saying
Speaker 4: they're not criticizing me. Maybe sometimes it's because you know,
Speaker 4: I'm a big scary football player and I'm not leading
Speaker 4: the right way because I'm big scary football players.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: It's like, uh, because when you text it, if.
Speaker 3: You're kind of like whether it's shallow, short or whatever,
Speaker 3: like everyone reads it from their own like lens. Like right,
Speaker 3: you texted me like, hey, man, I can't wait to
Speaker 3: see tomorrow, like it's gonna be great, and you're like, uh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That will get me too. I just mean being unclear
Speaker 2: as fuck like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like trying to read your wife's text message
Speaker 4: back to you and you're on like a trip or something.
Speaker 4: You know, Like that's that kind of third eye. I
Speaker 4: feel you, But me, I just don't communicate. Well, I'm
Speaker 4: just not clear. Sometimes you have to be, if you
Speaker 4: have to stop and and and ask clearly what you
Speaker 4: want done?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Right? Right?
Speaker 2: Are you having fun with it? Sometimes?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I mean but sometimes hell yeah, like most days fuck yeah.
Speaker 4: But like honestly, I don't know if you ever feel
Speaker 4: a little burnt out, like fucking having a talk every day.
Speaker 3: I think the more we felt burnt out was more
Speaker 3: of like probably these last couple of months, like doing
Speaker 3: the whole Bust and Spring tour, just because we're around
Speaker 3: each other a lot. You're running pods, like last week
Speaker 3: we did a pod like every day I was by
Speaker 3: the end of it with the new baby. In fact,
Speaker 3: that played into it a lot. But you're just kind
Speaker 3: of like worn down from having to talk so much
Speaker 3: because you only have so many like things to say
Speaker 3: and jokes through with that week.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know how you're You're you
Speaker 4: got to be running on fumes, man, so much respect
Speaker 4: getting all this stuff done, but like, yeah, it's hard,
Speaker 4: and I think the hardest part is like when you
Speaker 4: got to talk every day, you're not impressed with your
Speaker 4: own bullshit, so you got to like actually believe your
Speaker 4: own bullshit, which is not bullshit.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. I see what you're saying.
Speaker 4: I'm saying like I'm not I'm imagining being in the
Speaker 4: chair listening me after the third day in around I'm talking.
Speaker 2: I'm like, this is an interesting, right, but it is
Speaker 2: to people.
Speaker 3: Right, a different audience everything, Like we're always just in
Speaker 3: front of these guys, right, sometimes they might like they've
Speaker 3: been grunning last few weeks, like class could get lower
Speaker 3: or like laughs that we might think we're getting a
Speaker 3: laugh on it's like, oh shit, was that even entertaining?
Speaker 2: Like we cut that out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you got to overextend yourself sometimes, Yeah, to
Speaker 4: like try to be entertaining on a day that you're
Speaker 4: not like there's nothing to talk about.
Speaker 3: Laugh, you gotta be a little more. Yeah, you'll glance
Speaker 3: at garin Belle. Okay, that was a dude laughing Jack.
Speaker 3: You've always got Jack in the back. That's when you
Speaker 3: know you're like if you're on some cylinders, because Jack
Speaker 3: will give you some love.
Speaker 2: Man, Jack will give you love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, JP, you get praised. So you look at JP
Speaker 3: and Hill just have like a smirk on his face.
Speaker 3: The hard you always do. The hard part is like, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I think the hardest part is like we're cool,
Speaker 3: easy going guys. I don't think you're an ego guy.
Speaker 3: I'm not an ego guy.
Speaker 4: So the hardest part is liking your bullshit, like you know,
Speaker 4: like the sound of your voice, like what you're talking about,
Speaker 4: Like like I don't think our podcast, I don't think
Speaker 4: it's cool, Like but people think it's cool, you know, Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: If you ever feel that way.
Speaker 4: It does rip I like, honestly and honestly, if I
Speaker 4: if I really stepped back and took a week off
Speaker 4: and listen to our should I be like, this is
Speaker 4: fucking awesome.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's hard to be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I like my ship, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: I understand what hearing yourself? You know, like do I
Speaker 3: like watching like it's weird that people like this or whatever? Yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: it's fucking like you'll, I think it's I just think
Speaker 3: it ripped from the whole perspective thought of it, Like
Speaker 3: you know, we're running a pie, Like we're on a
Speaker 3: fucking bus right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. But then there's the
Speaker 2: whole like what do you do for a living thing?
Speaker 2: What what do you do for a living?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: I got a podcast.
Speaker 4: I'm a podcaster. I think you're like, Okay, I just
Speaker 4: meant five other white dads. Yeah yeah, yeah, they do
Speaker 4: the same thing, like you know, like and then the
Speaker 4: only way to impress people with your podcast is to
Speaker 4: flex on them and be like it's monetized, you know,
Speaker 4: or and I.
Speaker 2: See what you're saying, because I get this.
Speaker 3: It's like I feel the same weird anxieties, like, nah,
Speaker 3: I gotta now they want to know about it, I
Speaker 3: gotta kind of talk it up since they don't know
Speaker 3: about it at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now I think I want to play into
Speaker 2: the whole white dad podcasting, like make up some title, like.
Speaker 3: Just throw out some bullet about what yeahah self help
Speaker 3: and make them think like whatever they're thinking, bullshit, some
Speaker 3: people could could use themselves.
Speaker 2: Help however they're thinking. Allow them to double down on
Speaker 2: their initial thoughts. Yeah, yeah, you know what, no qu
Speaker 2: can go and be like yeah, I just had fun
Speaker 2: in this walk off right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But another thing is like you know, it's just everybody
Speaker 4: has access, so it's a really competitive space.
Speaker 2: Yeah that is true, And like how much your life
Speaker 2: do you show? Like I know, I show a lot
Speaker 2: of my stuff, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like people struggle, Like I know, people have all different
Speaker 3: opinions on all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: So I feel like that is a thought too. Like
Speaker 2: Dan who's like very private big cat.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I was gonna say he tweets like he's
Speaker 3: talking all day long, but he doesn't very private lot
Speaker 3: unless you got that great unless you got that green
Speaker 3: star up on Instagram.
Speaker 2: The green star. What the fuck does that mean?
Speaker 3: You're in the friends the close friends, the close friends
Speaker 3: in the close friends, Yeah, you are okay good. I'll
Speaker 3: sit there and be like, I know I'm saying something private.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I mean, Like, while I'm honored
Speaker 3: to be in this. The thing about Dan and PFT.
Speaker 4: The thing about Dan and pf T is I was
Speaker 4: like the first guest on that podcast, which doesn't mean
Speaker 4: I'm like anything special. I'm just saying, but it's pretty sick.
Speaker 4: They knew it was the easiest phone call, like this
Speaker 4: guy will help us. Hell yeah, but I've seen like
Speaker 4: that whole thing go down and uh and they've been
Speaker 4: like so fucking famous. They're famous, bro oh yeah, famous
Speaker 4: people like you know, he would never want to admit that,
Speaker 4: but that's a famous person. They're both famous person both
Speaker 4: famous like people like that's his stick. Podcast is on
Speaker 4: a sunglass or sunglass on a podcast. Podcast is on
Speaker 4: a sunglasses. Big Cat has like bits that everybody knows,
Speaker 4: like it's hard to stay like private and be like,
Speaker 4: you know, have any kind of life, like if we
Speaker 4: want to be successful with this like, what does our
Speaker 4: success look like?
Speaker 2: What's this?
Speaker 4: What's success look like for you here in this bus
Speaker 4: in the bus, like I'm talking about like in five years.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. You need to read a book
Speaker 2: about planning your successes. No, no, no, I'm just.
Speaker 3: Thinking, like you said there, don't you feel like you
Speaker 3: surprise yourself sometimes about where we're like where we're at
Speaker 3: in the podcasting world. Yeah, but it's like there's a
Speaker 3: part of there's a cynical part of me that believes, like,
Speaker 3: you know, we can make something dope. Like I truly
Speaker 3: felt like we could have these kinds of conversations and
Speaker 3: people would fuck with it, especially if I'm doing the
Speaker 3: if I'm doing it while I'm playing and kind of
Speaker 3: take people on the journey with me. Is like the
Speaker 3: hard working and the NFL's hard the working man's NFL player, Yeah,
Speaker 3: that whole stick right. Yeah, And so there's a part
Speaker 3: that's like, yeah, it'll be sick one day. But the
Speaker 3: fact that like we're here and actually doing all this
Speaker 3: stuff and we're doing a live show and we did
Speaker 3: a bus and spring tour stand up yeah, and people
Speaker 3: like fucking with our little like one liners or bits
Speaker 3: I'm having fun on the internet.
Speaker 2: It's just kind of like surreal, Like Dan, this is
Speaker 2: pretty sick. It's really cool.
Speaker 4: But you've also become You've also become famous during a
Speaker 4: pandemic now, so like you've been out in the world.
Speaker 4: But like, I don't know how closed. It was probably
Speaker 4: not that closed here. There was like a two year period.
Speaker 2: I mean it was closed for you know what.
Speaker 3: We had to phase one, two and three shit, and
Speaker 3: then once it got to like the the two it
Speaker 3: was going from two to three, and then once you
Speaker 3: kind of had to go back a couple of spaces
Speaker 3: in Yashville that started to piss people off.
Speaker 2: Problem.
Speaker 4: I just don't know, like if five years down the road,
Speaker 4: like if Success is becoming more popular as a podcast,
Speaker 4: I'm not crazy about the video component, not for you,
Speaker 4: because I think it's awesome. I get why people love
Speaker 4: watching video I fucking love watching videos of this show.
Speaker 2: I love watching videos of like podcasts.
Speaker 4: I like, like the funniest shit is seeing people's facial
Speaker 4: expressions all that shit. But I kind of don't like
Speaker 4: where it's going. Where now I have to be like
Speaker 4: an Internet TV guy. I see what you're saying. That's
Speaker 4: the part of podcasting that I don't love. If I
Speaker 4: was just gonna do this and talk to you, and
Speaker 4: like people were listening in their cars, like you know,
Speaker 4: how famous could you get? You don't know what you
Speaker 4: look like? That sort of thing I just think. And
Speaker 4: that's another thing is like Instagram. It's like you got
Speaker 4: to use your Instagram, you got to use your Twitter,
Speaker 4: Like you just can't be normal. If you want to
Speaker 4: be successful with this, you can't be normal. You can't
Speaker 4: live a normal life anymore. It's not like podcasting five
Speaker 4: years ago.
Speaker 3: That's all but to that you build up, you build
Speaker 3: up a platform and audience enough like you won't have
Speaker 3: to continue to do it all the time, like Big
Speaker 3: Can and them that like they enjoy like that's sparsal,
Speaker 3: that's the world. So I feel like if we were
Speaker 3: down the road and the podcast gets continues to get
Speaker 3: more successful in like.
Speaker 2: Five years, across that bridge, yeah, I feel like you could.
Speaker 3: Actually look at it for all the work you've put
Speaker 3: into and you know you're kind of falling back or
Speaker 3: going into the abyss, but you can calm down because
Speaker 3: you have such a big enough audience like Big Can
Speaker 3: and them, they don't have to continue to do.
Speaker 2: All that stuff. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I think he he just loves doing it. He loves
Speaker 3: the Internet. He loves being a degenerate gambler and speaking
Speaker 3: with all the fans about it. Also, Tim Ferris, he's
Speaker 3: a great example, or he's a good example. Rogan doesn't
Speaker 3: poke like a comedian. Tim Ferrisson podcast, Tim for Our work.
Speaker 2: Week four hour Awesome And I'm just not very online.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Tim as somebody who has it like an
Speaker 3: extremely successful podcast.
Speaker 2: But he doesn't like tweet and do us if Joe
Speaker 2: Rogan doesn't tweet and.
Speaker 4: Do all the Simmons doesn't tweet, that's what I'm really Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're right, and that's what I like to get to.
Speaker 4: But you know, you make more money on these deals
Speaker 4: if you can say this is my you know, like
Speaker 4: on the front end of you trying to be somebody,
Speaker 4: you have to have the impressions because that's the language
Speaker 4: people are speaking. Now you sign a deal, it's like
Speaker 4: how many impressions are you getting?
Speaker 2: But how many different deals you need to get? You
Speaker 2: don't need to, but.
Speaker 4: If you want your audio thing to become successful, you
Speaker 4: need the backing. Like if I want good guess that
Speaker 4: sort of thing, Like you know how it is. It's hard.
Speaker 4: It helps to have somebody that that fucks with you,
Speaker 4: that has connections and shit. So it's better to accelerate
Speaker 4: that if you can. And I get I get that
Speaker 4: side of it.
Speaker 3: Like me, I feel like like if I could explain
Speaker 3: the stage that I feel like we're in right now.
Speaker 2: Like to me, I'm in station, I'm in I'm in
Speaker 2: like college.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like you're like, you know, like you got a
Speaker 3: shot to be in the NFL, but you gotta work
Speaker 3: your dick off to try and like get to that NFL.
Speaker 3: Like so like all the monotony of like having funnel
Speaker 3: I'm social on the Internet and the conversations and all
Speaker 3: the relationship building.
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in that that that college football load.
Speaker 2: I just got burnout. I got burnout last fall. I
Speaker 2: get burnout in the fall. And like you took a
Speaker 2: hiatus picks winter once yeah yeah, yeah, but I got
Speaker 2: burned out in general. We were doing three shows a
Speaker 2: week and I'm doing Amazon and I know, like NFL
Speaker 2: media people are like the fuck here, but like we
Speaker 2: produce the show, Like I booked my own guests, you know,
Speaker 2: I do a lot of our own shit along with
Speaker 2: this awesome team, but like we're in there grinding. Like
Speaker 2: read of our producers. I think one I stopped paying
Speaker 2: attention one fall. He's working like seventy hours a week.
Speaker 4: Like like we're grinding like cause we're trying to keep
Speaker 4: up with the the you know, the daily shit, right,
Speaker 4: which is a little bit of a life handcuff. So
Speaker 4: I can get burnout doing that. And some NFL media
Speaker 4: people are like, that's the deal you made, Like we
Speaker 4: all made this deal. But sometimes I'm just not crazy
Speaker 4: about the like everyday part of it.
Speaker 3: But you're running the whole operation versus those guys are
Speaker 3: kind of like, yeah, they're being the town.
Speaker 2: They're showing up the knot question with Are that's what
Speaker 2: they went to school for?
Speaker 3: Maybe not, I mean obviously not all of them, but
Speaker 3: that's been their passion for I pay myself.
Speaker 2: It's it's a nice Yes, it's good. Little do you
Speaker 2: want to get into like more of a daily show thing? No?
Speaker 2: You talking about being burned.
Speaker 4: Out a little bit more maybe a little bit more
Speaker 4: like maybe a little bit more with less work, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like if somebody came to us and was like let's let's.
Speaker 4: Have you guys do a YouTube show like McAfee's got
Speaker 4: a nice McAfee's done a really good job of like
Speaker 4: a template for what a lot of people can be, right,
Speaker 4: which I think why a lot of media daily show
Speaker 4: No I know, but that's what I'm saying, Like he's
Speaker 4: found a way to do that in a very easy,
Speaker 4: effortless way. I'm not that that takes a lot of
Speaker 4: hart doesn't take a lot of hard work, but that
Speaker 4: guy also does a lot of other shit too, love Bro.
Speaker 4: He does the most right, so he's just he leaves
Speaker 4: no tread on the tires, bro, which is the way
Speaker 4: to live life. But I do think, you know, like
Speaker 4: the show, if you can get it to a place
Speaker 4: where it was. I got a bunch of my buddies
Speaker 4: in the room. We have guests lined up for Tuesdays
Speaker 4: and Thursdays like we do or Monday, Wednesday, Friday. It's
Speaker 4: a thirty minute YouTube show or something. You don't have
Speaker 4: to go three hours, would do something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just a lot of work, dude. You know after
Speaker 4: the season we do shows on Sunday night. I know
Speaker 4: Big Cat and them do that that way. But like
Speaker 4: the games wrap up. We finished with our work at
Speaker 4: like three am, four in the morning. I don't sleep
Speaker 4: till four in the morning on Sunday nights, so I'm
Speaker 4: fucked up all week, like just tired, dude. You know,
Speaker 4: it's like weird. You barely see your kids for a
Speaker 4: couple of days. I'm like to do what to make
Speaker 4: less money than I made playing football? Right, it's still
Speaker 4: making really good money. I didn't think it would be
Speaker 4: good or didn't think it'd be bad, but it's a grind, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you probably identify a little bit of this stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I think it is. It is insane that
Speaker 2: you guys are able to do that, like stay up
Speaker 2: till the we are as a night to do all
Speaker 2: the football. So everybody does like, pardon my take us
Speaker 2: all the writers do I know, But I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to.
Speaker 3: I didn't you know that you you get to come
Speaker 3: out from a different angle, like you got you got
Speaker 3: that you had a nice long career in the NFL,
Speaker 3: you got paid a couple of times. Like I feel
Speaker 3: like that kind of places away, Like I don't have
Speaker 3: to be fucking Why am I beating myself down like this?
Speaker 4: Because you're because ultimately the good moment. It's just like
Speaker 4: the NFL. Just like the NFL, because some days you're like,
Speaker 4: why are we doing those? But like you do it
Speaker 4: for the fun moments, like.
Speaker 2: The really good laughs, like dudes, just like the locker
Speaker 2: room atmosphere of like you guys, it's so fucking The
Speaker 2: cool part is hanging out. I think that's all. I think.
Speaker 4: It's like the coolest part is having a little locker
Speaker 4: room that you come into every day where you have
Speaker 4: a really abnormal job, and that's the best part, like
Speaker 4: knowing you have a destination. We're all grinding towards something
Speaker 4: and the little moments a great guest, a really funny bit,
Speaker 4: something that makes you laugh every time you guys hear
Speaker 4: about it, Like that's what keeps you going.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm complaining like we would in the locker
Speaker 4: room Coaches and about that's the earlier.
Speaker 3: We were talking about like dad life and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: and Taylor Taylor said something.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I mean, dude, I do love it.
Speaker 2: I just also love bitching, like I love complaining in
Speaker 2: our DNA funny like you.
Speaker 3: Said, they're like you want to come in and have
Speaker 3: like the shittiest stories just so you can make some
Speaker 3: of the guys laugh at the table.
Speaker 2: No question, like well, how was it last night?
Speaker 3: Say, Oh, she fucking sucked, dude, Like I actually thought
Speaker 3: about leaving her last night.
Speaker 2: You are that guy, right, Yeah, Like I I would
Speaker 2: make sure I was sitting next to you in the mornings.
Speaker 2: I was in a really bad I was known to
Speaker 2: be in a bad mood. Yeah, So like I would
Speaker 2: have come sat with you to try to cheer for me. Bro,
Speaker 2: we would have had a great time. I'm talking we'd
Speaker 2: be seeming at breakfast and come back together. You're cut, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're cut? Oh dude, that would be awesome. Mask on here.
Speaker 2: I can't think of what year it is. You're ten.
Speaker 4: I don't know when you take five years off. Would
Speaker 4: be year seventeen or something? Bucket dude, Yeah, year seventeen.
Speaker 4: Let's do it for years package deal. Oh that could
Speaker 4: be good. Who would we play for? If you could
Speaker 4: wave one and play for any team? Who would you
Speaker 4: play for? If I could wave a one and play
Speaker 4: for any Yeah?
Speaker 2: And like hey, like listen, this is yeah, Oh you
Speaker 2: gotta go, let's go. You gotta go something I want
Speaker 2: to finish. We want answer, and let's roll because I
Speaker 2: probably gotta go Wave of one. It would be it
Speaker 2: probably be the Packers. The Packers. Yeah, here's why, because you.
Speaker 3: Know the the reason is a lot of my coaches
Speaker 3: that I've played for over the years are all there.
Speaker 3: So when I was in Washington, my lineburger coach, Kirk Alavadatti,
Speaker 3: he is now he's the guy who got me, took
Speaker 3: a chance on me, who brought me in his room
Speaker 3: like hey, I made the switch, like you gotta fucking
Speaker 3: make me right, yeah type of thing, and they like yeah, so.
Speaker 2: I would be in his room.
Speaker 3: But the decordinator there, Joe Barry, he was our decordinator
Speaker 3: and white guy, awesome dude.
Speaker 2: In Manhattan Beach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, awesome fucking guy. But he's the decordinator there. Matt Lafleur,
Speaker 3: he was the OC. He was at Washington when I
Speaker 3: was at Washington, and he was the OC at Tennessee.
Speaker 3: We were both in Tennessee together and when we played Washington,
Speaker 3: I was like sitting in the offensive room with him.
Speaker 2: He's like he's like, come in my room and helped
Speaker 2: me game plan. It's like six degrees of separations. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's the head.
Speaker 3: Coach and now rich Pisacha who's the special teams and
Speaker 3: heage coach guy at Vegas.
Speaker 2: He's now the special teams guy.
Speaker 3: Green there, she was at Green Bay that they were
Speaker 3: just texting me fucking like busting my balls about fatherhood
Speaker 3: and I'm sending them photos of my little girl.
Speaker 2: Yes, say, but if I could wave a wand it
Speaker 2: would be fucking green Bay lip that clip that because
Speaker 2: you get him going. Yeah, Well, I like it when
Speaker 2: people when I'm on my pod and I don't have
Speaker 2: to ask questions.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't feel like Taylor don't really take
Speaker 3: a whole lot of He won't take a whole lot.
Speaker 2: Of interest in that. He won't take a whole lot
Speaker 2: of interest.
Speaker 4: Bro, you met making He's dry as a motherfucker's funny man,
Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna bring him no doctor fat
Speaker 4: So Doctor, I want to shout out doctor Fax. Doctor
Speaker 4: Fax will be with me in uh in Vegas, will
Speaker 4: be doing the corns light live watches follow doctor Fax.
Speaker 2: What's your TikTok for people? Will you leave this in
Speaker 2: deal reels on. He's a thrifter. You can check his
Speaker 2: eBay out too. But I know you're running now.
Speaker 3: Take so you gotta get on TikTok to like I
Speaker 3: made a TikTok oh yeah, just to recycle my Instagram
Speaker 3: videos be like fuck yeah, bro, but he's I love
Speaker 3: Chris because he's a fucking grinder. But I can see
Speaker 3: I can since the first round first round or listen.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, man, like I'll try, and you'll try,
Speaker 3: like Taylor will get super excited.
Speaker 2: Like when we're doing well, just good, You're good.
Speaker 4: You're good at being an entertainer, like and I mean
Speaker 4: that's a compliment, like you gotta be you gotta want
Speaker 4: to entertain people. I want to entertain people, but I'm
Speaker 4: nervous about just trying to be funny all the time,
Speaker 4: you know, like it's like that's the whole thing, is
Speaker 4: like all that not all the time.
Speaker 3: This is funny that I'm not being funny right here
Speaker 3: and I'm just being dry and mad or I'm just bitching.
Speaker 2: I don't want to just be on TikTok like you know,
Speaker 2: like I don't know what do you what do you
Speaker 2: do there? You just take your videos and put him
Speaker 2: on there, Like I probably have three minutes. It might be,
Speaker 2: is that what people are doing to go viral?
Speaker 3: Hey, but subscribe. Chris Long, he's a fucking SI. You're like,
Speaker 3: this podcast great, all that stuff. He's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: I love him.