1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for telling my parents to 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: ask their foster children for help instead of me? Maybe 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: this and again this stances to the question of when 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: is adoption and or fostering in this case not the answer, 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: so okay. Recommendation fourteen O eight says, my thirty four 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 1: male life could have been okay growing up, except that 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: my parents wanted to be good people. Interesting ways explain, 8 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 1: so they became foster parents. I think it was noble 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: of them. Those kids needed help. The downside was that 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: I got ignored. I got less attention than those kids 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: because I was independent and didn't need help. Gifts from 12 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: my grandparents became gifts for the family. My grandparents put 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: a stop to that by not buying me gifts but 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: taking me out instead. Okay, so the grandparents would give 15 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: gifts to ope and then and then the parents, hey, 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: would redistribute them socialism. Yeah, they're like, oh, those are 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: your gifts now they're everybody. 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 2: Is good, but are the grandparents they. 19 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:58,319 Speaker 1: So they were like, no, we're gonna take you out there. 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: I gotta go see movies and to make out for 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: meals and weekend trips with my grandparents. My dad's folks 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: took me to Disneyland, and my mom's mom and dad 23 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: took me to New York City. My parents tried to 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: get the money for this stuff given to me them. Instead, 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: I begged my grandparents not to do that. I left 26 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: the house when I was seventeen. I graduated early and 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: got into a trade. My grandfather was in the Union 28 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: and he got me in. I've been at it for 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: seventeen years now, and I'm doing okay, awesome. My parents 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: are not. They ran themselves ragged taking in all those kids. 31 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: Even the money they got wasn't enough to make up 32 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: for their sacrifices. They asked me for help, and I 33 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: said no. I know that if I give them money, 34 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: they will just waste it on the kids they took in. 35 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: After I left, I told them that they had a 36 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: plethora of foster kids that they could ask for money. 37 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: My mom said she was disappointed in me and that 38 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 1: she thought she raised me better. I said, I raised 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: myself from about eight years old onward. My grandparents are 40 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: tapped out too. My parents already owe them so much money. 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: My wife says she understands how I feel, but thinks 42 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm being mean. My mom thinks I'm holding a grudge 43 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: from childhood. I refuse to speak with my father, but 44 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: I assume he is still giving my old things to 45 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the new kids. And there are some relevant comments, but 46 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: that is all we hear from op. 47 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: WHOA, that's kind of crazy, Harlem Baker. Also thanks for 48 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: the five Canadian buckaroonys. I'm not an adoption expert, but 49 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 2: I was adopted at age five. Me and all my 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: siblings are adopted. These stories resonate with me so much. 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: No, I think, I mean, in general, I'm proponent of adoption, 52 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: but I think that you have to be the parents 53 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: who are looking into adoption. You have to be or 54 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: foster care. You just have to be so prepared for it. Yes, 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: because I think a lot of times people who look 56 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: into adoption do so because they want a child, less 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: because they want a child out there to have a good, 58 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: safe home. Yeah, exactly, And I think adoption should be 59 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: child focused rather than your wants. 60 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: The same way, there's tons of stories where someone's like, 61 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: I want a baby, I want to make give me 62 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: a baby, give me a baby, and they don't want 63 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: They're not like, Okay, I'm like ready to like really 64 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 2: invest in like a lot of parenting and raising as child. Well, 65 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: they're just like I just want to make. 66 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I had a lot of stuff come exactly, 67 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of stuff, like a lot of I 68 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: don't want to say baggage, but like a lot of 69 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: what's another word, like, well, trauma. Health issues can come 70 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: with adopting a child, especially if you don't you know, 71 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: if the records are closed, and you have to be 72 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: prepared to be able to handle those things. Yeah, like 73 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: you have to be prepared to maybe I have to 74 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: spend a lot of medical bills or take your child 75 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: to therapy if you're adopting an older child. So there's 76 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: a lot that goes into adoption that people don't really 77 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: think of. 78 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it seems like these parents were in the 79 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 2: camp of like I just want this is like almost 80 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 2: like a toy, like I just want kids and bringing 81 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: them in. 82 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: Or even I think also OP kind of mentioned that, 83 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: oh they're good people, and it feels like maybe they're 84 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: doing this in part to make themselves look good, right, yeah, 85 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: at the expense of OP. Just yeah, Ope, I don't 86 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: think OP owes them anything if that was how. 87 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, So answer that question, yea, do we think that 88 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 2: op should basically give them. 89 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: I don't think so, what do you think. 90 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so either. I think generally it 91 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 2: is good to say that comment, Riley, I'll read in 92 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: a second. Generally, I think it is good to There 93 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: is this kind of like whippening where you end up 94 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: parenting your parents in many ways, and I think that 95 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: that is a very good thing, or like like helping them. 96 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: I think that is a very good thing because parents 97 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: do so much to raise us, and that is it 98 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: is a massive undertaking to do. However, when you go 99 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: into becoming, when you basically go into parenthood, it's kind 100 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: of like that's the deal. Like you are like, hey, 101 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: you you want a kid, Well, great, you have eighteen 102 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: years plus of like very hard work, of thankless stuff 103 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: like that is what comes with it. So in this 104 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 2: specific scenario, I don't think that they deserve, you know, 105 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: money from OPI. And like OPI said, like, there's also 106 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 2: other grandchildren that you favored or other other sorry, other 107 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: adopted children and foster children that you favored over me. 108 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 2: So go ask them. You know, you love them so much, 109 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: you know, yeah, go get it from them. 110 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 111 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: I think it's also interesting that Opie said, The mom said, oh, well, 112 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: you're just fostering a grudge from childhood. I think that 113 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: is true. But I think yes for a reason the 114 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: things you yeah did that was your fault. Yeah. 115 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, if anything, I'm like, yo, be more supportive 116 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: of your partner, Like this is something that probably affects 117 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: so many things in his life, probably also your relationship. 118 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 2: It's a good thing that talking works through. And like, 119 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 2: I feel like that's so like when your partner brings 120 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: something like that, I think you should be. 121 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 1: The mom said that, But I think it is interesting 122 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: that the wife said, oh, I think you're being mean. Yes, 123 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: the wife, I think you're still I think you're still. 124 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like I would I would hope my partner 125 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: is like, oh, you should just like get over. You're 126 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: just being mean. Why don't you just get over? I'm like, oh, 127 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,039 Speaker 2: is this hurting? Is this is this or something like? 128 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: Is this still affecting you to this day? This this 129 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: kind of tense strained relationship with your parents? 130 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I think generally what happens in the 131 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: right scenarios where people give money is like the parents 132 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: like don't want to ask for money. Yeah, the child 133 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: is like, Noah. 134 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: So much for me, I want to give back. Yeah, 135 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: in those situations, that's totally fine. I don't think that 136 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: there is. I don't think it's like a clear cut 137 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: rule of a child should never give money to the parent. 138 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: But I think in this situation they don't. 139 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 2: Deserve a thousand thousand thousand percent. But ladies and gener 140 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: we don't hear from op anymore. 141 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: I think they respond to one comment. 142 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, we don't hear much from a pee. But Sophia, 143 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: I shall I am not. 144 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: Really about to read it. I was like, wasn't I 145 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: reading it? Strawbo says, not the a hole. Your parents 146 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: ignored you and tried to take money from you. You're 147 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: not holding a grudge from childhood. You're simply recognizing a 148 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: pattern that they never made you a priority. They were 149 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: irresponsible in their financial planning by taking in so many kids. 150 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: That's not your problem. Tell your wife, I do not 151 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: think you are being mean. You just don't want to 152 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: be taken advantage of. And there's another comment from what 153 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: IFO mixes you are not holding a grudge from childhood. 154 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: They say, yes he is, but he's absolutely justified. To 155 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: hold a grudge is to have and maintain a feeling 156 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: of anger, bitterness, or resentment towards someone for something they did, 157 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 1: especially a wrong that you think they committed against you. 158 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: I agree with that, and then Sharp Chocolate says, I 159 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: see a lot of not the a whole, but honestly, 160 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: I think you're an entitled, spoiled brat whoa Your parents 161 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: helped underprivileged children and you got a lot of nice 162 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: things and experiences with your extended family, but you're mad 163 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: because you had to share your parents love. You didn't 164 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: go without and you don't need those things to have 165 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: a good life, but you got them, and instead of 166 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: being happy, you're mad. The way you talk about them 167 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: feels like you've never even tried to see them as family. 168 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: You don't have to help them, I guess, but I 169 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: don't get what your issue is. And then OPI responds, 170 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: they're welcome to spend all of their time and money 171 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: on anything they want. My money is for my family. Yeah, 172 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: that's a crazy comment, not from a pee but from 173 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: the person before. 174 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just like again, it's the same. It's kind 175 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: of the same thing with like, there's parents that are 176 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: awful parents, you know, and like at the end of 177 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: the day. They don't. They don't deserve all these things 178 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: they bird, do you, I think there does. Now that 179 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: being said, I do think again there's so much sacrifice 180 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: in parenting, and I think sometimes it's easy to you know, 181 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 2: two things can be true or it's like maybe some 182 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: parents mess up in some areas, but maybe also they 183 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: really were trying their hardest and all these things. I 184 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: think in this specific scenario, the parents were again like 185 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: like just taking as many kids for whatever reason that 186 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: wasn't because they wanted to be, you know, good parents 187 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 2: and really give these kids the best home they possibly could. 188 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: I think they had some ulterior motives and it showed 189 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: for Op's upbrings. 190 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think also most kids like will recognize 191 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: that their parents, you know, made sacrifices, and so the 192 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: fact that OPE is like no, they didn't like they 193 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: kids know what their parents did. You know, later in 194 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: life they're like, oh, yeah, my parents, you know, maybe 195 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: they were a bit strict, but they spent all this 196 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: time trying to help me go to college or something. 197 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: So most kids are to your point, yeah, yeah, I know, 198 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like they the fact that OPE is later 199 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: in life still like no, these people were not good. Yeah, 200 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: it's like kids know later in life how their parents 201 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: treated them. I don't know. I don't know how to 202 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: make this point. 203 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 2: I know, I know what you're saying. I personally believe 204 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: I think sometimes people can because of the wrong things 205 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: that were done overshadow over can sometimes slightly or more 206 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 2: unfairly let that over overshadow. 207 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on the child, but it. 208 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it depends as child and how the parents actually 209 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: actually were. But this I think a clear cutcase of like, yeah, 210 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: the parents had all these ulterior motives and it showed 211 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: in the way they raise their child. 212 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 1: True period, period, and that's the end of that. 213 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: Story, and that's the end of that story. But I 214 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: think I on the stance of the question for the episode, 215 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: I feel kind of the same, like, if the kid 216 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: doesn't want to be adopted, then yeah, adopt them. 217 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: And I think that if you are not fully ready 218 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: and prepared to adopt, then you should not adopt. 219 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,839 Speaker 2: Buckle your seatbelt and bat in your hatches, because you're 220 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: going to be taking care of this kid. 221 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 222 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: This is not a Yeah, this is not like a goldfish. 223 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: This is a human child, and they live, They will 224 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: outlive you. 225 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,959 Speaker 2: It's the goldfish pro addition. Yeah, okay, so upgrade your subscription, ladies. 226 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: And they don't have a three second memory. They're going 227 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: to remember everything that you do to them that is 228 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: currently for them. 229 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 2: So and Riley, where how are we looking on episode 230 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: time fifty seven minutes? Do we want to do a 231 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 2: very quick calling with one of our members. Maybe I 232 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 2: forget who said they were adopted, but if you were adopted, 233 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: I think that is. I think you have a very 234 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: very good perspective to add to this. The former comment 235 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: was like, I'm not an adopted extra, but I was adopted. 236 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: I don't know. To me, that kind of makes you 237 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,199 Speaker 2: an adoption expert because you went through the you actually lived. 238 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: Two sides to the adoption coin. 239 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: That is that is very true. That is very true. 240 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: Hit up, Riley and we'll get you on the old discord. 241 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: Great job with these stories, by the way, right length, 242 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: just better effect though better effect though. Oh we got 243 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: someone on the line. 244 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Here we go. 245 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 2: It's uh, sir, Harlem, harlem harlem. Can you hear us? 246 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I can hear you. 247 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, welcome, Welcome to the episode. Sou Do you 248 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: have a story that is kind of related to the adoption. 249 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: Oh yes, Oh my gosh, Haarlem. So you were the 250 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: one that was adopted maybe super quick. Uh. Do you 251 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 2: think that OPI made the right moves? Do you agree 252 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: with OPI's decisions in the story? 253 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: Yes. Now, my background with being adopted is since I 254 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: was five years old, I know my birth parents, I 255 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 3: know my adopted parents, so like I have memories of 256 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 3: fossa care and all that. I do think, like, especially 257 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: with the last story, I do believe the parents were 258 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: foster parents or foster parents not for the right reasons, 259 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: but for the selfish reasons, and that honestly the hits 260 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 3: a really soft spot with me. I was very, very 261 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 3: fortunate that the foster parents I had were good people. 262 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: I still in contact with most of them today. Actually 263 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: that's also yeah, I was fortunate. My story is not 264 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: always what's going to be like the norm. Yeah, and 265 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: it's sad to say, but I was very lucky. I 266 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: was adopted with one of my birth sisters, and when 267 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: they adopted my brother, they actually wanted to make sure 268 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: that the three of us older kids were okay with 269 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 3: another child coming into the family. And then when we 270 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 3: adopted him, we actually built on an addition to our 271 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: house so we can make room for him. Because there 272 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: was four kids, two parents, and two grandparents living in 273 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: the house. 274 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: So there eight of us. 275 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: Wow, And so it sounds like, yeah, so the parents 276 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: like basically sat you two down and were like, hey, 277 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 2: we would like to bring you know, another child into 278 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 2: the family. Is that something that's like okay with kind 279 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: of like asking for your for your blessing and all 280 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: of that jazz. Basically right, Yes. 281 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 3: Well, actually there are three of us because the year 282 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 3: before Yeah, so the year before my first sister and 283 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: I were adopted, they already had adopted another older child. 284 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 4: Got you. 285 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 3: My brother was the only one they adopted as a baby. 286 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: Got you? Okay, awesome? Heck yah, Well I'm so glad 287 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: to hear that you had a positive experience. Maybe maybe 288 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: as a closing thought, could you for the people that 289 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: are thinking of like fostering adopting, could you could you 290 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 2: leave them with one one more tidbit that from it 291 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: sounds like your parents were incredible. Another another good piece 292 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: of advice from so Halem on the wonders of being 293 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 2: an incredible adoptive parent. 294 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: Be patient. You're not going to get a child, right 295 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: off the bat, there's going to be through thorough examinations, 296 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: thorough inspections of your house, like my parents had to 297 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: go through so much just to get. 298 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: Approved to be able to adopt. 299 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 300 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: I think the circumstances with my brother was different than 301 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: me and my sisters, but it did take them a 302 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: long time to get approved for adoption. And this was 303 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: back in the nineties. Yeah, so yeah, I hope that 304 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: it's still as extensive today. Yeah, because you don't just 305 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 3: want to have just anyone adopting or being foster parents. 306 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 3: You have to go through the psychological test. 307 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 4: Yeh. 308 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 3: Their home has to be inspected. I need to make 309 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: sure that you can provide for the kids, which is 310 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: a big one. I'm fortunate enough that my mom was 311 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: a college professor so well. 312 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 2: I think Harlem, that is a beautiful advice. To end 313 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: this note on, Harlem, thank you so much for your 314 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 2: perspective and your story and so glad to hear you 315 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: had such a great situation growing up. So thanks for 316 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: coming on the show. 317 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank youlcome. What a positive, what a positive. 318 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: We love We love it, especially when it's this is 319 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: our family surprise, You're all our adopted show. 320 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: Rise. 321 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we are your parents were your parents? Okay, 322 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 2: so go clean your just kidding ladies and gentlemen. That's 323 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: all we got. That's all we got this episode. 324 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: If you love us, make sure to subscribe. 325 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: We love you and seamorrow. 326 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 4: This is an episode from Deep within the Archives. 327 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: Time for okop relash Today. Effed up by accidentally watching 328 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: some sweet Schlongs during a flight. But it's not what 329 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 2: you think. 330 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 5: What just watching some sweet Sloans? You know some Is 331 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 5: this a mile high? You would think it is, But 332 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 5: it's nuts, all right, let's hear. 333 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: Yesterday, I, twenty two male, was on a plane, a 334 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 2: two hour flight scheduled to land at eight PM. I 335 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: had the window seat and there were two other passengers 336 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 2: sitting next to me who were a young couple. The 337 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 2: woman was sitting in the middle and she was squeezing 338 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: her boyfriend's hand the entire time, most likely anxiety. Now, 339 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: the weather was pretty bad and I could relate to 340 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: how the woman was feeling, But instead of cutting off 341 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: the blood circulation in another person's hand, I tried to 342 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: distract myself with a movie on my laptop. 343 00:14:58,800 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 4: What kind of move? 344 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: The movie I chose to watch was called Violation. Oh god, 345 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: so this was a movie my roommate had recommended to me. 346 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: It was almost as long as my flight was going 347 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: to be, so I thought, why not let's do it. Well, 348 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 2: the thing is, I fell asleep while watching Violation. It's 349 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: a super fed up revenge movie. You'll love it, my 350 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: roommate said to me. I was sold. But the thing is, 351 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: my roommate did not mention that it was also super boring. 352 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: The movie did one thing right, though, It managed to 353 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 2: put me right to sleep during a turbulent flight. 354 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 4: Amazing. 355 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: But then I woke up to someone tapping me on 356 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: the shoulder. It was a passenger next to me, and 357 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 2: at that moment I also noticed that one of the 358 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 2: flight attendants was staring me down. I removed my headphones, thinking, oh, 359 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 2: we were about to land or something like that. The 360 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: flight attendant wanted to inform me that some of the 361 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: passengers were uncomfortable with what I was watching. On my 362 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: last object, multiple people are like. 363 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: Why are you watching this flight? 364 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: I looked at my laptop and noticed a naked man 365 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: sitting in a chair with a blindfold and a fully 366 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: exposed eric. 367 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 4: What is this movement? 368 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: This dude's meat was literally flexing the details to too much. 369 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: I had no context of what was happening in this scene, 370 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: but I instantly closed my laptop and apologized. 371 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. This is just what I This is what 372 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 4: calms me, right, It's special, man of it. You should 373 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: try it sometimes. 374 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. As the flight attendant walked away, I heard a 375 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: female passenger behind me thank the flight attend Thank you. 376 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: It was so disturbing. 377 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: What there's like children on the flight? 378 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, like it could me children, grand you know, 379 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 2: elder people. When I looked at the couple next to me, 380 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 2: I realized the boyfriend was now sitting next to me 381 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 2: and not his girlfriend for real. I obviously made the 382 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: girlfriend uncomfortable as well, hence the swap. The two of 383 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: them avoided eye contact with me at all costs, even 384 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: when we landed. When it was time for my section 385 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: to get up and grab our luggage, the female passenger 386 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: behind me said I should be ashamed for playing dirty 387 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: movies on a plane where there's children around. 388 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: Fair. 389 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: I locked eyes with her little small boy. 390 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 4: Oh no, dude, and she's like, mommy, what was he watching? 391 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is so sad. And he made 392 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 2: it clear to me that he could spell SpongeBob. This 393 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: porn kid. He's like, I can spell SpongeBob. 394 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: Also, you have heart. 395 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: I apologize to the mom and awkwardly looked away. I 396 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 2: could feel people staring at me. Fuck that movie, yo. 397 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: We had a touch on this roommate though, like why 398 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 4: is this roommate suggesting this kind of movie? Bro And 399 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 4: two when I actually I had an experience like this 400 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 4: on a flight. Well oh really, I wasn't the guy 401 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: watching you know, dirty movies, but there was this guy 402 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 4: on an airplane that was literally watching porn on full blast, 403 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 4: like on his phone, just like no shame about it, 404 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 4: just watching porn And people made a comment like oh 405 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 4: nice broke, like subtly shaming, but he gave zero fox. 406 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 2: Wait wait how long? 407 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 4: He was watching it the entire flight? And then people 408 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 4: saw it more when he was walking fast because he 409 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 4: still had the porn on as he was walking down 410 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 4: the aisle. 411 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 2: He was literally watching it as he was walking down 412 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 2: the aisle. 413 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, a flight attendant didn't go up to him, and no, 414 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 4: what the man must be very addicted to porn if 415 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 4: he has to watch it going down the aisle. 416 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 2: I'm just in shock, utter shocked. In the flight, like 417 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: the flight attendants must have seen it. 418 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, I maybe, I'm not sure they didn't. 419 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 4: They say, didn't say anything. Well, more of the day. 420 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 4: You can watch porn on a plane, Yeah you can, children, 421 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: But if you have your own spooky, smutty stories to share, 422 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 4: go to our such okop show and submit them to us. Yes, 423 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 4: do it today. I fed up by making my dad 424 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 4: punch a dancer of the poll in GTA and then 425 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 4: having him ask for forgiveness from God in front of 426 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: the entire family. 427 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 2: Wait, wow, in front of the entire family. 428 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 4: Like the entire family. 429 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let's see where this goes. 430 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 4: Let me try that one more time. 431 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 432 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 4: I was encouraged to post this here from a comment 433 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 4: I made elsewhere, even though it didn't happen today or 434 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 4: even this decade. So mods please remove it if it 435 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 4: goes against the rules. It's a funny story though. When 436 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 4: I was young, my brothers and I snuck a copy 437 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 4: of San Andreas into the house class we spent Yeah, dude, 438 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 4: that game was so good, so good. I would always 439 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 4: play Said Andrea's at my friend's house because my parents 440 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 4: didn't have me play video games. 441 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: Same well bad rated video games. Yeah, I could play 442 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: video rated yeah yeah, or MA or m see, we 443 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: don't even know. 444 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 4: That's how bad we are playing video games. We spent 445 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 4: days hold in our basement taking turns playing and down there. 446 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 4: My parents didn't bother us too much. In order to 447 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 4: get tons of money for guns. We had yet to 448 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 4: figure out my parents dial up passwords, so cheats weren't 449 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 4: a thing for us yet. What we would do is 450 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 4: we'd go to the strip club and stand on stage 451 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: absorbing the money dudes throughout women and just let the 452 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 4: games sit for ten or twenty minutes. That's a great hat. 453 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: I love that, and I also love like just if 454 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: someone doesn't know, GTA just sounds so crazy. Like. In 455 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: order to get money for guns, we had to stand 456 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 2: in front of the pole dancers, so he got. 457 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 4: Into one Honest Days and Honest Days living I'm moving boxes. 458 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 2: Script from money Ma. 459 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 4: We had to be careful though, because sometimes the dancers 460 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 4: of the pole would move and bump into CJ and 461 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 4: the balancers, but wrap the place up hikes. One day, 462 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 4: while I was playing, my mom yelled down to the 463 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 4: basement us to get ready. We're going to pizza hut. Heyo, 464 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: like a great time and a stroke of genius. I 465 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: drove to the GTA Dancing of the Pole Club, got 466 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 4: on stage, and then turned the TV off and we left. 467 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 4: It was the best heist of the century. My dad, however, 468 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 4: was and as the beast highest because he's getting all 469 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: that free money, all the money about. We would go 470 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 4: to the Dancing of the Pole Club and stand on 471 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 4: the stage absorbing money. Dudes threw at the woman and 472 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: just let the game sit for ten or twenty minutes. 473 00:20:59,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: Genie. 474 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 4: My dad, however, was at church at this time, practicing 475 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 4: for a gospel concert he was singing in. He always 476 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 4: filmed the practices so he could take notes at home 477 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: upon playblack Oh God, so he could take notes at 478 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 4: home upon playback, and this time was no different. So 479 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 4: this guy's like, this guy's super religious. 480 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: Wow, Wait is he recording it in the basement or 481 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: at the church? 482 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: They record the church service and then he reviews the 483 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: tapes in the basement. 484 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: Ah, no, you're. 485 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 4: Religious when you're reviewing tapes of the day. Big game today. Well, 486 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: my mom and brothers and I were still at the hut. 487 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: He arrived at home and plugged his camcorder into the VCR. 488 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 4: We had just one VCR and it was connected to 489 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 4: the basement TV. Back at the hut, my mom gets 490 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 4: a phone call. She says. She puts her napkin down 491 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: and slowly looks at the table and says okay, okay, 492 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 4: okay a few times in the phone in this really 493 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 4: calculating specific way that she always did, and she knew 494 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 4: us kids were in trouble before we did. Oh no, 495 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: that that that mom's sixth sense. 496 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: That you you know when it's coming, you can feel 497 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: it in your soul. 498 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 4: The wrath of a mom is worse than our wrath 499 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 4: against Adam Levine, our arch nemesis, who we will pass 500 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 4: and followers very soon. So uh make sure it does 501 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 4: abort us so we could dominate Adam Levine. 502 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 2: Smash the follow so we can show him how talentless 503 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: he is. 504 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 4: Fricke, Adam Levine, We're coming for you. 505 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: You know, I was gonna say earlier, like we said 506 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 2: something about Jesus. I was like, you know, who probably 507 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: hates Jesus, Adam Levine. 508 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: Naturally, it was at this point that we kids knew 509 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 4: we were in trouble, just like Adam Levine knows he's 510 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 4: in trouble when he sees our stuff. That's right for 511 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 4: what though we didn't know. After a very quiet minivan ride, 512 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: we get home and my mom says, boys, why don't 513 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: we go down to the basement. Your dad wants to 514 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 4: show you his gospel practice downstairs. No, it was then 515 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 4: at this point we knew why we were in trouble. 516 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 4: So we draw our feet down the stairs and lo 517 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 4: and be old. My dad is sitting on the couch 518 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 4: TV on and a dancer of the poles polygonal milkers 519 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 4: juicy milkers swung stiffly back and forth on screen to 520 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 4: en vogues my love and with CJS standing mere inches 521 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 4: away collecting money. Oh no, my dad starts in. Boys, 522 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 4: I don't even know where to begin. This PlayStation was 523 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 4: a blessing to you for Christmas, and this is how 524 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 4: you repay us by breaking our trusts, just like Adam 525 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 4: Levine broke our trust. 526 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 2: By having no talent. No talent, Adam. 527 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 4: Levine, he's holding the controller up now, gesticulating with it. 528 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: Here I am practicing to bring glory to God. But 529 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 4: he was cut off as he inadvertently squeezed the controller, 530 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 4: causing CIJ to punch the dancer of the pole. My 531 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 4: entire family stands in silence, watching together as the bouncers 532 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 4: in the club the place for what seems like an eternity, 533 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 4: the tying stops and CJ appears in front of the hospital. 534 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: I look back and see my mom silently weeping into 535 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 4: her hand. I look at my dad as a single 536 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 4: tear rolls down his cheek and prays under his breath. 537 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 4: After another eternity of silence, without a word, my dad 538 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 4: bends down, disconnects the PlayStation, walks back to the family computer, 539 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 4: disconnects it, goes to his car, and drives away. For 540 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 4: the next four months, he kept the PS two and 541 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 4: PC locked in his office at work. Gildr. I wasn't 542 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 4: allowed to play GTA growing up, of course, got caught 543 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 4: playing it. My dad interrupted his own lecture by accidentally 544 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 4: punching a dance of the poll and immediately asking for 545 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 4: God's forgiveness. 546 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: You know what's so sad is my immediate reaction to 547 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 2: the end of that story is like what happened to 548 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 2: the money in GTA? Where they able to say because 549 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: it probably needs so much money in GTA. 550 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 4: All of their all of their hard work, collecting all 551 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 4: those all those club dollars from those deuicy milkers. 552 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: Shaken about, lost forever, those milkshakes sha