Speaker 1: Up next how Loud with Giano called part of the
Speaker 1: gig which switch. The Democratic Party thinks racism in facts
Speaker 1: every inch of American life, except within his own ranks.
Speaker 1: Today I exposed the Democratic Party's racism and show just
Speaker 1: how destructive the Party of Jim Crow has been for
Speaker 1: the black community. This is allied with Gianno Calledwell. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to Allow with Gianno Caldwell, I've got a provocative
Speaker 1: show for you guys this week. My guest is Vernon Jones,
Speaker 1: who was a member of the Georgia House of Representatives
Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen to January of this year, and previously
Speaker 1: served in the same role from two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: After his first tent in the Georgia House, Jones served
Speaker 1: as the chief executive officer of Decap County, Georgia for
Speaker 1: eight years. Jones is also a successful businessman and the
Speaker 1: founder of the Waken Up America and organization dedicated to
Speaker 1: promoting America's core values of hard work, self determination, and
Speaker 1: the promise of the American dream. But Jones is perhaps
Speaker 1: best known for becoming the first state elected Democratic official
Speaker 1: in Georgia to endorse Donald Trump's reelection bid and Justin January,
Speaker 1: he announced that he was leaving the Democratic Party and
Speaker 1: joining the GOP. Today, I'm going to ask Jones why
Speaker 1: he switched parties and so much more. Let's go so,
Speaker 1: I want to begin with Georgia's new election law, which
Speaker 1: Governor Briant Kemp just signed. The stated purpose of the
Speaker 1: laws to protect against voter fraud and ensured Georgians Georgia's
Speaker 1: elections are fair and honest. As you know, the law
Speaker 1: does several things such as requiring a photo idea in
Speaker 1: order to vote absentee by mail and giving the legislature
Speaker 1: more control over administrating elections. And of course, the left
Speaker 1: has called the law racists and it will disenfranchise voters
Speaker 1: of color. What are your thoughts on this? A couple
Speaker 1: of things. The left has really shaped the narrative, using
Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams as their shield to say it's okay to
Speaker 1: call this racist. That's why Joe Biden is and it's
Speaker 1: ray this. It's ironic that Joe Biden's home state has
Speaker 1: much more restrictive laws than Georgia, but he's not calling
Speaker 1: his home state Jim Crow. Matter of fact, that's why
Speaker 1: I called him Joe Crow. When you look at Georgia's
Speaker 1: election laws historically, um mail in ballots were or apsotete
Speaker 1: ballots were used for those people were handicapped or senior citizens,
Speaker 1: or you had to have a legitimate excuse. When Stacy
Speaker 1: Abrams lost her election, not narrowly lost, as she was
Speaker 1: fifty five thousand votes when even getting into a runoff,
Speaker 1: but the media ship as if she narrowly won or loss,
Speaker 1: I should say, um, she got upset ful a lawsuit.
Speaker 1: Nobody claimed by her finding lawsuit a matter of fact, Gianna,
Speaker 1: I don't think she's even admitted yet that she's lost
Speaker 1: that race. It's kind of interesting. Um, so she files
Speaker 1: a lawsuit. And the Georgia's constitution is very clear. It
Speaker 1: says that only the members of the Georgia General Assembly
Speaker 1: have the authority to change election laws, not the Secretary
Speaker 1: of State, not the governor. It has to be adopted
Speaker 1: adopted through the members of the Georgia General simile mean meaning,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna change anything, we can change it as
Speaker 1: a legislator. The governor can veto it, of course, but
Speaker 1: the Secretary of State has nothing to do with that.
Speaker 1: And saw what you saw, what you saw happen. You
Speaker 1: saw Stacy Abrams go in through a back door and
Speaker 1: negotiate with the Secretary of State whose arms were not
Speaker 1: as long as hers. You had Brian Kemp, who's fully
Speaker 1: aware of it, signed off on it, who had been
Speaker 1: a former state senator, a former secretary of State, and
Speaker 1: now he's governor, and he signed off on that agreement.
Speaker 1: The members of the General simbly knew nothing about it.
Speaker 1: And here's what's iranic. What's iran is they were doing this,
Speaker 1: didn't tell us about it, and it was all because
Speaker 1: the governor is afraid of Stacy Abrams. They had made
Speaker 1: her Godzilla in the State of Georgia and I'm sure
Speaker 1: other places too. She is not the big bad wolf. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's a paper tiger. Let me be clear. That is
Speaker 1: a paper all right, and so um um. What's interesting
Speaker 1: is that there's never been any litigation. An attorney general
Speaker 1: sat on the sideline they all cut and rent on
Speaker 1: the president. The Attorney General cuve Easy had gotten involved
Speaker 1: and said whether or not it was constitution or not.
Speaker 1: But he's even noticed. He's been silent. He is the
Speaker 1: highest law enforcement officer in the State of Georgia. You
Speaker 1: haven't heard him do anything or see anything about investigating anything,
Speaker 1: and he's the highest law enforcement officer. He can do it.
Speaker 1: And so when now let's get back to this racism
Speaker 1: and Jim Crow. This build. Someone was saying, including Jesse
Speaker 1: Jackson and what's his name of the guy would like
Speaker 1: to use all the big words, the black guy who
Speaker 1: specializes in hip hop at the Ivy Lee School. I
Speaker 1: can't think of his name right now. But but uh oh,
Speaker 1: they're not allowing allowing people to have water. That's not true.
Speaker 1: The way it sets up, it says that within a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty feet you cannot bring it in one
Speaker 1: water or food. Well, the lawyer is right, now, you
Speaker 1: can't come in that particular part in campaign. That's where
Speaker 1: campaigning starts. So people can get food, people can't get water.
Speaker 1: That was a complete lie. And then the drop boxes.
Speaker 1: Did you know that those drop boxes would just put
Speaker 1: out there in an obscure place, no supervision, no camera,
Speaker 1: no nothing. Now those drop boxes are located in the
Speaker 1: area that's well supervised and it has to be in
Speaker 1: an election precinct. Now what is Jim Crow? What is
Speaker 1: racist about that? And finally, Gianna, you can get me
Speaker 1: on this. If white Democrats and Republicans have to adhere
Speaker 1: to the same law that black people have. Why is
Speaker 1: it that is suppressing black votes and it's not suppressing
Speaker 1: white votes. It's because you don't have an I D. Well,
Speaker 1: you need an I D to check in the hotel,
Speaker 1: you need an I D to go and buy a cigarettes,
Speaker 1: to buy beverages, and an I D to get a
Speaker 1: COVID shop. So you're saying, now black people either can't
Speaker 1: have an idea. And by the way, I D s
Speaker 1: are given out free in George if you want on
Speaker 1: you can't have an I D. And you're not smart enough.
Speaker 1: You're just dumb as a black person that you're now
Speaker 1: going to be suppressed from voting. I tell you what
Speaker 1: the vote suppression is. The voting suppression has been done
Speaker 1: by Stacey Abrams and the Jim Crows that were still
Speaker 1: in place, who painted a picture that black people are
Speaker 1: deficient and defective. That's the real Jim Crow. You know.
Speaker 1: There's a saying that the greatest trick the devil Everpool
Speaker 1: was making people believe that he didn't exist. There's a
Speaker 1: narrative in the Democratic Party that racism doesn't exist within
Speaker 1: their party, and some people consider it a safe haven
Speaker 1: from racism. As a long serving member who was a
Speaker 1: Democrat for many many years, what say you well to me?
Speaker 1: The most h the most devastating area, the most bigoted area,
Speaker 1: the most racist racist party is the Democratic Party. For one,
Speaker 1: they think they know what's best for black people. For two,
Speaker 1: they want to think for black people. For three, they
Speaker 1: want to build your habitat house, but not in their
Speaker 1: neighborhoods uh. For four, they have gotten so high tech
Speaker 1: where they were using black votes to carry out their
Speaker 1: liberal agenda. Now because more and more blacks are running
Speaker 1: as Democrats for these jobs that they always had, like
Speaker 1: us and and govern everything else. So now what they
Speaker 1: want to do. They're coming in and they're picking their
Speaker 1: own black. Now they've gone high tech, they're picking their
Speaker 1: own black to put all the resources behind so they
Speaker 1: can get their person in office. For or not. That
Speaker 1: was support aboarding babies at eight months, that was support
Speaker 1: uh taking away your guns. That will support attacking you
Speaker 1: because you're political ideology or political affiliation. That would support
Speaker 1: this false sess of Jim Crow and not called Joe
Speaker 1: Byen now for saying that if you don't black, you
Speaker 1: don't if you're not black, you don't vote for him.
Speaker 1: They don't call Joe Biden out by saying black people
Speaker 1: aren't as diversity thinking as white people and more as Latinos,
Speaker 1: and even more recently Giano not calling the Democrat Party
Speaker 1: or Joe Biden for saying that the reason why black
Speaker 1: people are more or disproports affected by COVID is because
Speaker 1: we don't know how to go online and get information. Hell,
Speaker 1: my four year old nephew can get online right now
Speaker 1: and serve more than anybody else. I know. That's the
Speaker 1: bigger tree in a Democratic party. And they don't want
Speaker 1: people like you and me who think independently. And I
Speaker 1: tell you what they use. They use the old method
Speaker 1: when the slaves would leave the plantation, they would catch
Speaker 1: them and bring them back. Who would they get the
Speaker 1: whip the slaves. They would get black slaves to whip
Speaker 1: the slaves in front of slaves. So they use the
Speaker 1: Stacey Abrams and the others to whip you and me,
Speaker 1: or try to whip us back on the damn plantation
Speaker 1: for whites because now white liberals, because why because we're
Speaker 1: thinking for ourselves now, we don't need them to think
Speaker 1: for us. I wasn't raised a victim. They want you
Speaker 1: to think you're a victim. Oh you're you're gonna be
Speaker 1: suppressed by this vote of law, really, or your vote
Speaker 1: is going to be much more protected. And why not
Speaker 1: verify when you vote in person? Now, Giano, you have
Speaker 1: to show your I D. If you go to Democratic
Speaker 1: Party register for something, you got to show an I D.
Speaker 1: Now why is that a person cannot show an idea
Speaker 1: attached it to their mail in ballot. So it's better,
Speaker 1: it's easy and more efficient to verify, Uh, your ballot
Speaker 1: based on on identification card versus signatures. I signed my
Speaker 1: signatures ten different ways a day. Don't verify me based
Speaker 1: on my signature. Use my photo I D. But it's
Speaker 1: never been a problem. It's not a problem. Now this
Speaker 1: is fabricated and there you know what station Ables using
Speaker 1: her folks out there to call these corporate companies like
Speaker 1: Coca Cola and Delta said oh we're against this. But
Speaker 1: wait a minute, Delta, make Coca Cola, you were just
Speaker 1: busted for trying to tell your employees, your quite employees,
Speaker 1: not to be as white. Now what if somebody were
Speaker 1: in the corporate America was telling us Giano, Uh, you
Speaker 1: can't be that black, you can't be as black. We
Speaker 1: would lose our mind. We were calling Coca cola Jim
Speaker 1: pro plantation. You see the hypocrisy. A lot of people
Speaker 1: know you. They know you from being one of the
Speaker 1: first Well, I guess the only Democrats to to endorse
Speaker 1: Presidents Trump's re election for Uh, you're a state representative
Speaker 1: at the time. You've been involved with the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: for years. I would imagine decades, and you can correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. The racism and the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: didn't just start. So why did you stay in so long? Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, you don't move quickly. You try to
Speaker 1: change within first. You know it's not always Oh I quit.
Speaker 1: I wasn't taught to be a quitter. But when I
Speaker 1: really started to see that the Democratic Party does not
Speaker 1: have the Black community at heart, at his heart, it
Speaker 1: does not support the black agenda. It's supporting BIRA, transgender
Speaker 1: males participating in female sports. They want to put they
Speaker 1: want to pass legislation in Washington that you're your sex
Speaker 1: or your gender is determined by your mannerisms. They want
Speaker 1: to say that they're for hate crimes, but they let
Speaker 1: black lives matter in teeth, attacked and fighting, even killed people,
Speaker 1: even children, and they dope say anything about it. They're
Speaker 1: burning churches now, and I'm like, wait a minute, this
Speaker 1: is not the Democratic Party I know about. I mean, now, faith,
Speaker 1: it's not even political. You have to be. It's kind
Speaker 1: of funny. You can't even say you're a man now.
Speaker 1: You can't even refer to your father and your mother
Speaker 1: as your father and mother. They want you refer to
Speaker 1: them as your parents. Are guardians children. They support children
Speaker 1: getting transgender operations and being injected with hormones. Children. You
Speaker 1: have to be eighteen just to devote, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: change your child's body. Where is the science? You always
Speaker 1: talk about following the science. See, they follow the science
Speaker 1: when it's when it's convenyent for them. And so you
Speaker 1: know what I said, By the way, I didn't leave
Speaker 1: the party. Party left me, but I said I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go along with that. I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna deny my faith. I'm not going to deny my gender.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna deny saying that I am a man
Speaker 1: in supporting women and women sports. I'm not gonna deny
Speaker 1: the science. I am not going to be more supportive
Speaker 1: of children coming to this country illegally than the children
Speaker 1: right here in the United States. Might just signed a
Speaker 1: bill for eighty and inforce eight million dollars for hotel
Speaker 1: expenses for illegal kids coming over from Mexico that he
Speaker 1: invited to come over Giano, their children from your I
Speaker 1: go to Atlanta, living on the streets and under bridges.
Speaker 1: We're the hotels for them. We're the hotels for our homeless,
Speaker 1: including those who have mental challenges. Wait a minute, and
Speaker 1: to see the Democrat the liberals want to bring those
Speaker 1: illegals in because everything that they're going to voting Democrat,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna push black votes farther and farther down
Speaker 1: the totem pole, where soon you won't even be irrelevant.
Speaker 1: That why I said, I can't take this foolishness no more.
Speaker 1: Enough was enough. Now let me ask you this question,
Speaker 1: because since President Trump has been at office now he's
Speaker 1: former President Trump, there's been very few people have had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to sit down and meet with him and
Speaker 1: talk with him. But you have been a frequent visitor
Speaker 1: of President Trump in Florida, and I'm imagining you all
Speaker 1: are having discussions about a number of different things, is it, Uh,
Speaker 1: potentially discussions about you running for governor of Georgia. Has
Speaker 1: been a lot of rumors you broke news last week. Uh.
Speaker 1: People have been saying that you I mean, but it's true.
Speaker 1: It's true. I'm seeing you in a lot of photos
Speaker 1: with the former president and he The people that are
Speaker 1: meeting with President Trump now are those who are more
Speaker 1: of his inner circle than there's ever been. There's been
Speaker 1: folks that met with him when he was at the
Speaker 1: White House, um, stakeholders for different industries, et cetera. That's
Speaker 1: what the president does. But in this state, especially considering
Speaker 1: the fact that you came out so hard core form
Speaker 1: in Georgia, one of the states that there was major
Speaker 1: contention with Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia and also
Speaker 1: the Secretary of State, you spoke out against that as
Speaker 1: an elected Democrat official. What's going on? Can you? Can
Speaker 1: you let us in on the discussions you've been having
Speaker 1: with President Trump and what's your future plans? Well, let
Speaker 1: me say this general, I've always been a Bob Harrison
Speaker 1: person Um. When I was in the legislation in the nineties,
Speaker 1: I worked on both sides Stile. That's how I was raised.
Speaker 1: I was raised faith based, hard work. The government doesn't
Speaker 1: owe you anything, business opportunities. Create those opportunities, get educated.
Speaker 1: That's just how it was reared. Um. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, when I came out for President Trump, I
Speaker 1: supported him in two thousand and sixteen, but nobody paid
Speaker 1: me any attention because they didn't think he could win.
Speaker 1: But when I came out for him in two thousand
Speaker 1: and twenty, you were thought, all hell broke lose primary
Speaker 1: because the Democrats and the liberal media, Oh, this cannot happen.
Speaker 1: He doesn't fit the profile. How can he do that?
Speaker 1: He's black. That showed a lot of the bigotry within
Speaker 1: the liberal media and the Democratic Party. But I supported
Speaker 1: President Trump because of his policies. Look, I went to
Speaker 1: Historical Black College. And if I can sit around any
Speaker 1: group of black liberals or whatever, and they'll gree with
Speaker 1: me at the dinner table. I went to Historical Black
Speaker 1: College North Carolina Central University. President Obama cut funding for HBCU.
Speaker 1: President Trump came along and not only did it increase funding,
Speaker 1: but he wrote it into law. And you're how important
Speaker 1: is to have funding written into law? If you don't
Speaker 1: think that's not important. Ask playing parents who when they
Speaker 1: lose their funding, so gonna try to challenge their funding. Um.
Speaker 1: At the same time, what he did for historical black
Speaker 1: colleges um, that was important. But what he did for
Speaker 1: prison reform was important. I have friends and relatives and
Speaker 1: many other folks I know who have had family members
Speaker 1: who were subjected to that crime bill the Joe Biden passed,
Speaker 1: and you saw people giving time with the time didn't
Speaker 1: master crime. And so when the President came and did
Speaker 1: prison reform and allow a lot of these non violent
Speaker 1: offenders to be released and have a second chance to
Speaker 1: get the job and work and contribute to get back
Speaker 1: with their families. As a father, as a brother, as
Speaker 1: a son, that was important. What he did with opportunities,
Speaker 1: own districts, What he did with the border, when he
Speaker 1: when he built the start building the wall back and
Speaker 1: stopped to stop and release and start stopping them and
Speaker 1: taking them back, catching and return. That was good policy
Speaker 1: of us. Not that he didn't support immigration, but look,
Speaker 1: we had to secure the border. And I can think
Speaker 1: of a number of things that I can remember. When Gino,
Speaker 1: I mean Gianno, I'm sorry. When Craig Melvin Gianno, I
Speaker 1: remember and Craig Melvin was interview. I mean, the only
Speaker 1: time I've ever been on a liberal station. CN has
Speaker 1: never had me. And when he asked me why I
Speaker 1: support President Trump. When I was telling me, I was
Speaker 1: going down things of policy, and the first thing that
Speaker 1: came out of his mouth you could tell he was
Speaker 1: radioed in his ear and he asked me. He interrupted me,
Speaker 1: asked me how much of the Trump campaign paying you?
Speaker 1: How much is the Trump campaign paying me? He never asked,
Speaker 1: Say Abram's about the five million dollars that she got
Speaker 1: from from the former mayor of Bloomberg. She never asked.
Speaker 1: They never asked her and all these other blacks how
Speaker 1: much money they have gotten from the Democrats. Matter of fact,
Speaker 1: a lot of them got nothing, but they just working there.
Speaker 1: But many of them did. And it's like it was
Speaker 1: an insult. Because that's why I didn't want to die
Speaker 1: from this president. I just support its policy. So I
Speaker 1: came out strong for him, and I will continue to
Speaker 1: come out strong for him. Now where we are now,
Speaker 1: I've been visiting the President. Yes, I've been fortunate enough
Speaker 1: to maintain a relationship with him because I am interested
Speaker 1: in growing the Republican Party. I didn't join the party
Speaker 1: just to be a member. I came to the grand
Speaker 1: old Party bringing a grand new party, grand new ideas,
Speaker 1: grand new people, grand new opportunities, and I want to
Speaker 1: help this party through my leadership that I can share
Speaker 1: with them to grow this party. The President is the
Speaker 1: Republican Party, whether they like it or not. And I
Speaker 1: want to know where his thoughts were, where his thoughts were,
Speaker 1: where he's headed, was his agenda. How I can still
Speaker 1: remain a part of his agenda because I believe in
Speaker 1: what he's doing. So we've had that dialogue. Clearly, I
Speaker 1: think many people, especially those in their right mind, are
Speaker 1: going to try to see the president. I want to
Speaker 1: talk to the President about their personal or future aspiration
Speaker 1: and politics. I think that's a normal thing because he's
Speaker 1: very influential and Georgia has an eight eight percent approval rate.
Speaker 1: Now let me get bringing us on home. I am
Speaker 1: very seriously considering and been doing due diligence and going
Speaker 1: across this state and having conversations with small business people
Speaker 1: that nobody know, individuals who don't see them in a newspaper, farmers,
Speaker 1: uh school teachers, police officers, those who would have physical
Speaker 1: conditions where they are having to have some assistance from
Speaker 1: the government. But but you know it's for the right reasons.
Speaker 1: I'm talking to a number of people, corporations, to colleges, students.
Speaker 1: I'm focusing a lot on students, and I can tell
Speaker 1: you this, Governor Kemp and the Secretary of State let
Speaker 1: the president down and let the people of Georgia down
Speaker 1: a number of ways. First of all, if I were
Speaker 1: a governor, President Trump would have won Georgia. He would
Speaker 1: have won these other states as well. And you may say, well,
Speaker 1: how vernon, Well, first of all, I would not have
Speaker 1: allowed the Secretary of State or sign off on with
Speaker 1: the Secretary of State and states Abrams did to change
Speaker 1: the mail out process, mail in battot process. That really
Speaker 1: created a quadmire, that really created the opportunity for fraud. Secondly,
Speaker 1: I would have done a health a lot better job
Speaker 1: and selecting who he selected to fill Johnny Issens unexpired term.
Speaker 1: The natural person who had the grid, the guts and
Speaker 1: the courage and the experience was Doug Collins. Doug College
Speaker 1: should have been in there. That race had been over,
Speaker 1: we'd won both of those. You had senate races Plus
Speaker 1: I would have campaigned a lot more across the state
Speaker 1: for the president and across this country. I would have
Speaker 1: been in Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Arizona. I would have been
Speaker 1: all over this country for the president. Look at what
Speaker 1: I just as a state representative, how much I was
Speaker 1: out there for. But as a governor a state of Georgia,
Speaker 1: that's what been that would have been even more influencing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have concerns with what this government did.
Speaker 1: He cutt and Randy didn't have the courage I thought
Speaker 1: he should have had, hadn't displayed um. Not to say
Speaker 1: that I'm asking him to do something wrong, but I'm
Speaker 1: asking to stand up for the people of Georgia. For
Speaker 1: nothing else. He showed no fight. He didn't call a
Speaker 1: special session. He didn't bring this out to the legislature. Hey,
Speaker 1: we changed these election laws, and he knew better. He
Speaker 1: was a Secretary of State. So it's about leadership and
Speaker 1: the legislature. They did take a step in the right
Speaker 1: direction to address those election luke holes. However, that's a
Speaker 1: daughter Layton and a day short. The president should the
Speaker 1: governor should have had that done in the special session,
Speaker 1: and he didn't. He failed so this failure leadership and
Speaker 1: then he wants to come in with this grand photo,
Speaker 1: not realizing that behind him was a pitch of a plantation.
Speaker 1: I mean that goes to show you he's absolutely don't
Speaker 1: understand people around him. He's not making good decisions. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm very, very seriously considering h being the
Speaker 1: governor state of Georgia as a Republican. That's where I am,
Speaker 1: and so we'll be making that decision though very short
Speaker 1: I have not made that decision yet, but we will
Speaker 1: be making a very shortly. We're talking to the one
Speaker 1: and only Vernon Jones. We got much more with him
Speaker 1: out their quick break. What is President Trump saying to you,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure you've had these conversations with him, you
Speaker 1: you're considering running for governor of Georgia. That's going to
Speaker 1: be a very hot state for him this next coming election,
Speaker 1: and that's in every way beyond twenty and beyond just
Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of his targeted states. Is
Speaker 1: he supporting you running for governor of Georgia? Let me
Speaker 1: say this, no, nobody can disagree. The President appreciates how
Speaker 1: I stood up for him. The President appreciates how it
Speaker 1: stood up for this country and how it stood up
Speaker 1: for Georgia. UM, we have a great relationship. At this
Speaker 1: point in time as too early for anybody to be
Speaker 1: doing any endorsements. I would say for the president. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that he can help his business, but I
Speaker 1: would love to have the President's support. It would make
Speaker 1: a huge difference to have his support. And at the
Speaker 1: appropriate time those discussions will be held. But I can
Speaker 1: tell you this, the president can see who stood up
Speaker 1: for him when times are rough, and who's asking for
Speaker 1: his support now when they thought he wasn't gonna be standing,
Speaker 1: still standing when the dull cell. This president is strong,
Speaker 1: and that's what I like about him. He's a man's man.
Speaker 1: He has courage, he'll fight and and he's doing it
Speaker 1: for the right reason. He could be doing so many
Speaker 1: other things, but he really believes in America first, and
Speaker 1: I'm totally call up into that with him. I believe
Speaker 1: in America first two, and I think he wants to
Speaker 1: see He's gonna be involved in Georgie, He's gonna be
Speaker 1: involved in other states too, because he wants to see
Speaker 1: people elected that would stand up for for America and
Speaker 1: have the guts and the courage to do so and
Speaker 1: fight the left who's destroying this country. Look at what
Speaker 1: has happening now. Crisis are being created because of Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden is there. Let me tell you what
Speaker 1: I've learned. And I've been a legislator for twelve years,
Speaker 1: I've been a chief executive account executive for another eight.
Speaker 1: I've had to run a government. Probably I have more
Speaker 1: executive speris than than the governor that's there now in
Speaker 1: certainly state's abrams Um. But let me tell you what's important.
Speaker 1: When you have to make tough decisions, you don't need
Speaker 1: somebody in there who's going with the political wins, who
Speaker 1: are afraid to make the decisions and so um, I
Speaker 1: would feel very comfortable being a chief executive of the
Speaker 1: State of Georgia and getting things done, moving to state forward,
Speaker 1: and not being afraid and not being afraid to get
Speaker 1: involved these corporate companies out there who probably never they
Speaker 1: never read the damn bill, and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they're taking the issue with it because of the pressures
Speaker 1: from Stacy abrams Um. We're not gonna play that kind
Speaker 1: of game, and I'm not gonna engage in a in
Speaker 1: a closed uh effort to change something or stand for something.
Speaker 1: I believe I would have done this. I would have
Speaker 1: clearly taking additional step and deal with the voting system.
Speaker 1: That that's one thing that people, no matter what they change,
Speaker 1: many Georgians are concerned about. They do not feel comfortable
Speaker 1: with it, and the President doesn't feel comfortable with it.
Speaker 1: So the President is gonna be having people he believed
Speaker 1: that that supports his agenda. Um, and and believe in
Speaker 1: his agenda. That's did one thing from just supporting it,
Speaker 1: but believing in and so yes, he's gonna be very
Speaker 1: involved in candidates in twenties two. Okay, So you in
Speaker 1: other words, you've not you've had the discussion, but you've
Speaker 1: not had a formal discussion with the president about you
Speaker 1: potentially running for governor. Then that's what I'm hearing you say.
Speaker 1: In other words, I got the right yo yo. Now
Speaker 1: I'm looking for the whole stream. Okay, very good, very good. So,
Speaker 1: as someone as you just mentioned how many years you've
Speaker 1: been in office, and the course it spans well over
Speaker 1: a decade, you are very familiar with folks on the
Speaker 1: national end of the Democratic Party. You know these people
Speaker 1: you I'm sure you had friendships with them, your friends
Speaker 1: with these folks locally. What is the Democratic Party's playbook
Speaker 1: these days? Is that identity politics and calling everyone a racist.
Speaker 1: Giving your experience as a Democrat, are there any special
Speaker 1: insights that you have into their goals and political strategy
Speaker 1: that conservatives might not be aware of. Yeah, here's a
Speaker 1: Democratic party's playbook. It's very simple. Continue to push a
Speaker 1: liberal gender agenda where we become a genderless society. Continue
Speaker 1: to do more for other countries than to do for
Speaker 1: our own country. Continue to do things to scare and
Speaker 1: put fear and black voters minds and hearts so they
Speaker 1: continue to vote Democrat, and to continue to let them
Speaker 1: are i should say, brainwash them to feel that haven't
Speaker 1: we been taken care of you all? Let us take
Speaker 1: care of you, We know what you need. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about anything. You don't need to think. That's their agenda.
Speaker 1: Their agenda does not in any They involve bringing black
Speaker 1: people out of dire conditions. They want, you know what,
Speaker 1: They want people to remain on programs. They don't want
Speaker 1: them to have jobs. They want to have programs. They
Speaker 1: want to continue to lean on the government. Thing the governy.
Speaker 1: The government is here to help. We're gonna help you. No,
Speaker 1: we want to help ourselves. But we've been we've been
Speaker 1: conditioned to be that way. And again, because they think
Speaker 1: about this, If the Democratic Party lost just of the
Speaker 1: black vote, they could not get elected. If they lost
Speaker 1: consistently fifty percent of the black vote, you'll start to
Speaker 1: see more and more Democrats lose. Why and more and
Speaker 1: more Republicans win. Why Because Democrats cannot win without the
Speaker 1: black vote. Republicans used to be able to win without
Speaker 1: the black votes. But they're running out of white conservatives.
Speaker 1: They're running out, so they're gonna have to grow the party.
Speaker 1: And you have to grow the party by going word.
Speaker 1: The conservatives are. They're in the Democratic Party, but they
Speaker 1: just don't trust the Republican. They'll tell you, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party has been taking me for granted. None
Speaker 1: of all of them would tell you that. But I'm
Speaker 1: choosing less of two eevers. We have been the less
Speaker 1: of two EETs. Let me think about this now, for
Speaker 1: sixty years you've been voting Democrat and you're still singing
Speaker 1: someday we'll overcome. And just four years were President Trump
Speaker 1: and and he didn't get maybe maybe said the most,
Speaker 1: he did more for the African American community in four years,
Speaker 1: and they half for them in the past sixty years.
Speaker 1: Joe Biden been there for forty seven years, and nobody
Speaker 1: can tell me to this day. Maybe because I know
Speaker 1: you do a lot of your research, can you tell
Speaker 1: me anything that Joe Biden has done to help black
Speaker 1: people in any way other than put them in jail? No?
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, Joe Biden. This is this is the
Speaker 1: hardest part for me. I'll tell you. If we're talking
Speaker 1: about Joe Biden, especially racism, and those terms are thrown
Speaker 1: around quite a bit these days, it is extraordinarily difficult
Speaker 1: for someone to be intellectually honest if they say that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a racist and Joe Biden isn't a racist.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to me. If you consider
Speaker 1: if you consider President Donald Trump a racist by any measure,
Speaker 1: you cannot say that Joe Biden isn't a racist. I
Speaker 1: will say that I believe that there and when it
Speaker 1: comes to Joe Biden, his policies have been much more
Speaker 1: destructive than anything that President Trump has said period. So
Speaker 1: with that being the case, I believe in policy over rhetoric,
Speaker 1: and Joe Biden has felt that test time and time again.
Speaker 1: Now we're in a situation where the Democratic Party UM,
Speaker 1: which has had a monopoly on the black vote for many,
Speaker 1: many years, and we've seen people like you and many
Speaker 1: others who have decided to step out. I stepped out
Speaker 1: over a decade ago. I became a conservative. Now is
Speaker 1: the time for conservatives to really embrace the black community
Speaker 1: in a way that they never have. You mentioned correctly,
Speaker 1: they're the numbers in terms of growth in the Hispanic community,
Speaker 1: Black community. The Republican Party has to in order to survive,
Speaker 1: It has to wrap his around, its arms around like
Speaker 1: the minority community. Otherwise it doesn't. So what do we
Speaker 1: do from here? Continuing the Trump policies, I think is
Speaker 1: a part of it. Uh, but what else do we do?
Speaker 1: You you have insights that no one else has. What
Speaker 1: else is it the Republicans should be doing in order
Speaker 1: to get these folks into the tent. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen overnight. But President Trump showed that
Speaker 1: if you invest, you getting ready to return when he
Speaker 1: had two million more black men to come out and
Speaker 1: support him. That's huge. It goes to show you're right there.
Speaker 1: You have a potential right there. In the black male community.
Speaker 1: We have to engage black males from college to fraternities
Speaker 1: and sororities, pastors, the church community and religious community, through
Speaker 1: other nonprofit organizations, through men's organizations. We have to come
Speaker 1: in and say, hey, wait a minute, listen, here's what
Speaker 1: we stand for. We want you to have a job.
Speaker 1: We want you to have the opportunity your own business.
Speaker 1: Look at our policy. We offered up the when they
Speaker 1: offered up to have billion dollars for black businesses, not
Speaker 1: minority business because minority now could be so stressed so far,
Speaker 1: but for black businesses. How we talk about Look, we
Speaker 1: are men. Let's not lose the fact that we're men.
Speaker 1: There's an attack under the attack against the straight male.
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter was founded by three lesbians. And what
Speaker 1: did they do. They went to the heart and the
Speaker 1: nucleus of the black community, the black man to destroy that,
Speaker 1: to take that away. Now, Republicans have to be committed.
Speaker 1: Here's what I have. Where I come in and you
Speaker 1: and others come in. We have to hold those Republicans accountable.
Speaker 1: You cannot here Georgia, for example, David Purdue and Kelly Loffler.
Speaker 1: You cannot put two black people in a commercial them
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, that's your outreach, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's you're getting the black vote. No, that dog will
Speaker 1: not hunt when you really start like Donald Trump, and
Speaker 1: he Donald Trump's Mesican be saying, no matter where you're
Speaker 1: going from a black or white audience, Donald Trump beginning
Speaker 1: for a white, all white audience, and say, look, here's
Speaker 1: what we've done for African Americans. All right, here's what
Speaker 1: he's not afraid to see it. Republicans got to get
Speaker 1: out there and start talking up and engaging directly on
Speaker 1: African Americans. They got to talk to talk, and they
Speaker 1: have to walk to walk. Why aren't they concentrating on
Speaker 1: African Americans? And Seapack concentrating on African Americans and and
Speaker 1: uh and from from from the top. And I'm having
Speaker 1: dialogue with Ronald Mcdonnald McDaniel, where is the real African
Speaker 1: American engagement? Now's the time to do this. You see,
Speaker 1: you can't win. There are a lot of us out there.
Speaker 1: More bofers are coming every single day. But I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna wait on them either, though, Gianna, let's let's be clear,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm a Republican, so with us as much
Speaker 1: as my responsibility as it is, there's and so not
Speaker 1: only I'm gonna be vocal and continue be vocal with them,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be vocal with myself. You're a vocal You
Speaker 1: know how many African American young men who know of
Speaker 1: you never got a chance to meet you. And you
Speaker 1: went to college. That's why I'm going to college is
Speaker 1: to meet them, to say, look, you have a choice.
Speaker 1: I'm not here to get you to change parties. I'm
Speaker 1: getting you to change your mind about only looking one way,
Speaker 1: look both ways. Look at what we're really offering. The
Speaker 1: older generation, they've been locked in so long they can't
Speaker 1: get out of it. But the newer generation, and we're
Speaker 1: talking about the future Republican Party. The future Republican Party.
Speaker 1: Giano looks like you and me. That's the future the
Speaker 1: Republican Party. We need to pause here for a quick break,
Speaker 1: but we'll be back in the second. What do you
Speaker 1: say to the critics that say, oh, you're looking to
Speaker 1: run for governor as a Republican, but you just became
Speaker 1: a Republican. I think you change party's in January. If
Speaker 1: I'm correct, what do you say to those critics? Well,
Speaker 1: let's look at the last three Republican governors, all but
Speaker 1: Brian Kemp. We're Democrats. Nobody said anything about that, not
Speaker 1: a word. Nobody said anything about Zell Miller, who was
Speaker 1: a Democrat who came out and and supported President George W.
Speaker 1: Bush and spoke at Republican National Convention. Nobody said anything
Speaker 1: about that. The Democrats were hashtag silent. But wait a minute,
Speaker 1: why is the issue when a black man stands out
Speaker 1: like that? Well, you know what, I've always been a
Speaker 1: barrier breaker, So We're gonna break that bear. We're gonna
Speaker 1: knock that roll down. So other young African Americans or
Speaker 1: anybody else who want to change parties, they don't have
Speaker 1: the issue of white people with changing from Democrats Republican.
Speaker 1: Almost every day, nobody said anything about it. So I
Speaker 1: underst stand, I understand the burden that I care, the
Speaker 1: cross that I care, But who other than me can
Speaker 1: care of this cross? Who other than me can have
Speaker 1: this type of influence and this day and this time.
Speaker 1: So you know what, I don't care about that. But
Speaker 1: they don't realize I've always been conservative. You can you
Speaker 1: know what many liberal Republicans I know, and how many
Speaker 1: conservative Democrats I know? It's about conservative I've always been conservative.
Speaker 1: I haven't changed who Vernon is. That's why I said
Speaker 1: the party left me. I didn't leave the party. The Democrat,
Speaker 1: the Republican party espouse more of what my beliefs are,
Speaker 1: my core beliefs. So I'm much more comfortable change in
Speaker 1: Jerseys And you know what, but it ain't about party,
Speaker 1: because that's what's got grid lock going on to Washington
Speaker 1: right now. Who are people who are willing to stand
Speaker 1: up and do the job work across the owl and
Speaker 1: get things done. I'd like to get things done, and
Speaker 1: I have a record of getting things done. Besides you
Speaker 1: potentially running for governor, do you have any other big
Speaker 1: projects coming out the folks at homes you know about? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I found it waking up America dot US.
Speaker 1: Waking up America dot US. Where that organization I'm concentrating
Speaker 1: on several things. One obviously for law enforcement, fighting socialism
Speaker 1: and Marxism, supporting those conservative and recruiting other African Americans,
Speaker 1: and going to college and university, reaching out to young people,
Speaker 1: growing the party that way, but also school choice and
Speaker 1: that that's something we hadn't talked about. I'm pushing school
Speaker 1: choice and let me tell you why. Here's what's interest
Speaker 1: in Gianna. Those kids that are coming over here. Now,
Speaker 1: they're coming over here, and the Democrats are saying, come on,
Speaker 1: come on. Uh, they're looking for a better life for
Speaker 1: their kids. Okay, I can understand that. So they give
Speaker 1: them all these services. They get them in schools now here.
Speaker 1: Black kids who are trapped in failing schools based on
Speaker 1: Democrats policies. And you have a black mother whose kid
Speaker 1: is trapped there based on that zip code. She can't
Speaker 1: she's in a failing school and she cannot. She cannot
Speaker 1: take her kid and put a kid in a performance school.
Speaker 1: Now what if she goes and lies about her address
Speaker 1: to get her child into performing school and they find
Speaker 1: out that her that she lied on her address, They
Speaker 1: throw the child out. There's no sanctuary school for that child.
Speaker 1: And you know what, the mother gets arrested for Lyne. Now,
Speaker 1: let me understand something. You have illegals that can come
Speaker 1: across the border illegally, and you give them a place
Speaker 1: to sleep and put them in a school. You give
Speaker 1: all these wrap around services and you have American families,
Speaker 1: American children who are trapped in these Familian schools, and
Speaker 1: when their mother go in lives and get their kids
Speaker 1: in a performing school because they want to have been
Speaker 1: a life for their kids too, then where is the
Speaker 1: sanct wary for that child at that school? Why is
Speaker 1: that parent now arrested? It doesn't make sense. It does
Speaker 1: not make sense, and so that's what I'm fighting. And
Speaker 1: black people, I don't care what you say. They do
Speaker 1: want their child in a performing school. Why can't the
Speaker 1: money follow the chowlel Why not? Gianna? Why not? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think we should. We
Speaker 1: should live in a a blind society, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to an application of laws. So you can't come
Speaker 1: into the country break our laws, be here and then
Speaker 1: say oh yeah we need to rest people for this,
Speaker 1: that and the other. It's either we're all equal or
Speaker 1: we're not. And that's what it comes down to. So
Speaker 1: I really appreciate that that point, and thank you for
Speaker 1: your point of view on that. And they get paid,
Speaker 1: they get paid to break along coming to this country.
Speaker 1: They get paid because they free services, free government services, free.
Speaker 1: That's that any other free hotel room, etcetera. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's the darnest thing. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my other project. I've been going across the country
Speaker 1: preaching that and again recruiting and uh, just getting people
Speaker 1: to wake up, open your eyes and see what's happening
Speaker 1: and look at what's really happened here. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny, you and I both have experienced
Speaker 1: African Americans attacking us. Here's what I've been trying to
Speaker 1: get this in my mind. I got people that I've
Speaker 1: known when the llege with living my neighborhood, uh, going
Speaker 1: to church with met just through social gatherings that I've
Speaker 1: been knowing all my life, damn near and you know what,
Speaker 1: they're mattered at me for believing what I believe in,
Speaker 1: then they're real oppressor. Joe Biden is the one who
Speaker 1: said you can't think. Joe Biden is the one who said,
Speaker 1: if you don't vote for me, you're not black. Joe
Speaker 1: Biden is the one who said that you know, he
Speaker 1: doesn't want his kids grow up into a racial jungle.
Speaker 1: He was on who jailed your black men. He was
Speaker 1: the one who owned property on the home that said
Speaker 1: that in indeed that he couldn't sell it to a
Speaker 1: black family. But you want to beat me up and
Speaker 1: not beat him up. You want you want to. I
Speaker 1: just I just don't understand that how they don't want
Speaker 1: to fight their real oppress. You know, David Dukes today
Speaker 1: right now that they black sea as a big clansman
Speaker 1: can go and run as a Democrat right now and
Speaker 1: Black people will vote for him just the because he
Speaker 1: has a deep beside his name. And you remember this now,
Speaker 1: remember Joe Biden said that he was considering one time
Speaker 1: having a Republican and a vice presidential candidate as vice
Speaker 1: president running mate. He actually said that not a word
Speaker 1: from black people or Democrats, not a word, not a word.
Speaker 1: And you know the going back to Bigger tree in
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, you noticed that they grade their candidates.
Speaker 1: What do you mean vernon grade? Why can't they ever
Speaker 1: select somebody that both of their parents are black? Why
Speaker 1: why can't they Why can't they ever support why can't
Speaker 1: they ever select for vice president president? We're both of
Speaker 1: the parents are black. I understand your point on David Duke,
Speaker 1: And just for clarification for the audience, who want to
Speaker 1: make sure that people understand exactly what you're saying. You're
Speaker 1: saying when you mentioned David Duke, that black folks generally
Speaker 1: or even just Democratic voter will vote for it just
Speaker 1: about anyone because they have a D next to their name,
Speaker 1: not necessarily that they would vote for David Duke generally,
Speaker 1: who's obviously someone that a lot of folks know as
Speaker 1: a klansman and and a racist. So I I get
Speaker 1: your point completely. That's what you were saying. Right, Here's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let me be specific. If David Dukes
Speaker 1: were to turn today and become a Democrat and we're
Speaker 1: the run against run against Joe Biden or any other Republican,
Speaker 1: they would vote for David Dukes just because he called
Speaker 1: himself a Democrat. And that's mostly black people. White people
Speaker 1: were the only race look at just look at the numbers.
Speaker 1: We're the only race that's been voting consistently for the
Speaker 1: past sixty years, ninety of one party. Asians don't do it.
Speaker 1: Native Americans don't do it, um um um. Indians don't
Speaker 1: do it. Specifically, Islanders don't do it. Whites don't do it.
Speaker 1: With the only ones, which they really did a good
Speaker 1: job of branding that D in our minds. And you
Speaker 1: know what, you could be the most loved black person
Speaker 1: right today if T D. Jake's changed, If t D
Speaker 1: D T D. Jakes today said I gonna run as
Speaker 1: a democ as a Republican, he would lose and keeping
Speaker 1: the same core values, he would lose his entire church. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but let a white person change parties. First of all,
Speaker 1: no white people are gonna call him all those names,
Speaker 1: those racial names. They're not gonna call him all those
Speaker 1: racial names. But when black people do it, we get
Speaker 1: attacked based on our race. We get attacked based on
Speaker 1: our race. What did they call us? Sellouts? And they're
Speaker 1: only it's some of them so stupid. They don't even
Speaker 1: know what Uncle Tomy is when they call your uncle Tom.
Speaker 1: If they knew they were complimenting you, they wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: But they compliment you when they call Uncle Tom. It's
Speaker 1: just pathetic. It's just pathetic how white people have got
Speaker 1: White liberals have gotten into black people's heads to that extent. Wow,
Speaker 1: you sound like you're very you're very fired up. And
Speaker 1: there are some points that I agree wholehearted with you
Speaker 1: on um. Others I don't know about the David do
Speaker 1: come and I leave that for you in your opinion.
Speaker 1: I'll leave that in your camp. But but in Chicago,
Speaker 1: so here here's the here's the distinction, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you this. There's this guy. He used the state represent
Speaker 1: name as Ken Duncan. He ran uh. He was a
Speaker 1: state rep for many many years, very beloved, and this
Speaker 1: guy helped a Republican governor. He worked across the aisle.
Speaker 1: And when people found out he was working across the aisle,
Speaker 1: the entire Democratic Party turned their back on him. Even
Speaker 1: President Obama started cutting ads for state representative race because
Speaker 1: he helped Ken Duncan helped a Republican governor and it
Speaker 1: was an issue that was beneficial for his constituents. So
Speaker 1: they said, oh no, this is absolutely not allowed. And
Speaker 1: it went so far. The Obama did the campaign as
Speaker 1: for this other person, and he went down to the
Speaker 1: state capital and gave an address before the state the
Speaker 1: State Assembly, so the both chambers of the House and
Speaker 1: the Senate in Illinois in Springfield, and he called out
Speaker 1: Ken Duncan on the floor. Ken Duncan lost that race,
Speaker 1: and he was one of the most beloved state reps
Speaker 1: in the state of Illinois. Very pro black guy, but
Speaker 1: he wanted to do what was best for his constituents,
Speaker 1: and if that been working with the Republican, so be it.
Speaker 1: But now he's no longer. So I understand. I understand
Speaker 1: your point completely. In history tells that to be a
Speaker 1: true story. I get that. Um, the David Duke think
Speaker 1: that's yours. I'll let you keep that. But thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Let me tell you, if you
Speaker 1: put slavery on the ballot right now, liberals would be
Speaker 1: for it. Put it on the balance, and see how
Speaker 1: many votes he would get. Put it on the ballot,
Speaker 1: and watch what liberals do. If slavery was back in
Speaker 1: existing today, the slave owners would be Now you probably said, Vernon,
Speaker 1: you're just as crazy as you can be. But no, Diana,
Speaker 1: I'm keeping it real. Think about this soon. Ator. Robert
Speaker 1: Bird was a card carrying chapter president of the Clue
Speaker 1: Klux Klan voted against the civil rights and the votes
Speaker 1: right at Joe Biden said, that's his hero, Harry Clinton,
Speaker 1: that's my mentor. Joe Biden utilized him a klansman. And
Speaker 1: black people won't even talk about it. You can't even
Speaker 1: Oh Trump did, but wait, let's forget about Trump. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about what Joe really, really, really and the man
Speaker 1: right now says stuff that that clearly bigg at it,
Speaker 1: and black people won't say a damn thing. I'm not confused.
Speaker 1: I agree that he if he was a Republican, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there will be picked forks outside of his house
Speaker 1: and everybody would be going crazy over it. I get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, we look at Virginia. We saw with Governor Northam.
Speaker 1: We said and and people said, oh, we don't care
Speaker 1: if he's racist, he's a Democrat. And I mean, truly,
Speaker 1: these things have happened, So I don't disagree with you
Speaker 1: on that point. I truly appreciate your time. Thank you
Speaker 1: for joining allt with Gianno Caldwell and bringing a very
Speaker 1: important perspective. And certainly as a person who has been
Speaker 1: a member of the Democratic Party for many, many years,
Speaker 1: I think Republicans would do well by taking a meeting
Speaker 1: or two and having a strategy conversations with you about
Speaker 1: how to uh embrace communities who unlike when Trump was
Speaker 1: in office, who really stuck his neck out to bring
Speaker 1: about policies and embrace the community, the Republican Party overall
Speaker 1: hasn't necessarily done that, and President Trump certainly took it
Speaker 1: to another level. So when he won in twenties sixteen,
Speaker 1: he had eleven percent of the black vote of black men,
Speaker 1: and those numbers went to double digit this this time
Speaker 1: around in and I'm sure he can build on that
Speaker 1: if he decides to run again in So we we
Speaker 1: love having new blood, new ideas, fresh diversity and the
Speaker 1: Republican Party. And thank you for being a part of it. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you too. And you know, I gotta tell you, Giano,
Speaker 1: President Trump inspired me to come to the Republican Party,
Speaker 1: not as much as the Republican Party. What they were
Speaker 1: doing is what Trump, President Trump did, So I'd say, hey,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, here's a Republican who understands, who wants
Speaker 1: to build this party, who wants to have a diverse party.
Speaker 1: He wants everybody have an opportunity. That's what experiences I'm
Speaker 1: hoping me and other individuals, even when the Republican Party
Speaker 1: as a whole, maybe it's not coming from the top,
Speaker 1: but people like you and me and others, we are
Speaker 1: the Republican Party too, and people trust us. We have
Speaker 1: my own constituency and so I'm sure you've been you
Speaker 1: when I first heard you go on and first heard
Speaker 1: about you and see you're talking. I'm like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: shoot this this brother is thinking what I'm thinking. So
Speaker 1: even when you didn't know that, you inspired me. You
Speaker 1: inspired me. I'm like, okay, I got somebody else out
Speaker 1: there thinking just like me. And and that choir starts
Speaker 1: to get bigger and bigger, you know. And so man,
Speaker 1: you don't know here. Yeah, I'm a I'm a seasoned lawmaker,
Speaker 1: been around this business for thirty years. I'm inspired by
Speaker 1: Gianno cardwell too, I'm inspired. And I quote you a
Speaker 1: lot of time. I said, listen to that brother. Man up.
Speaker 1: Look he's not in policy. I'm in politics. Okay, you
Speaker 1: want to call me a politicis right here. Here's here's
Speaker 1: somebody who grew up not with a silver spoon in
Speaker 1: his mouth, and he's not he's not crying victim. He's
Speaker 1: trying to open your mind, the open doors and get
Speaker 1: you to see way amend and this is America. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna say there's no racism. It would be
Speaker 1: stupid to say that. But that's not what's causing us
Speaker 1: to holding us back. It doesn't make any sense for
Speaker 1: kids not to go to school. Now, in my time
Speaker 1: my parents, they couldn't go to school. Man, they had
Speaker 1: to take turns to go to school because they had
Speaker 1: to work on a damn farm and they can't get
Speaker 1: past the third grade. All I had to do was
Speaker 1: go to school. All kids have to do now is
Speaker 1: go to school. Don't tell me you can't get an education.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me you can all right, I don't want
Speaker 1: to hear that. Don't tell me there's no opportunities. Is
Speaker 1: it hard yet? But guess what You and I both
Speaker 1: know what our parents teach us. Um that we have
Speaker 1: to work twice as hard, be twice as smart. But
Speaker 1: we can do it. We can get ahead. We can
Speaker 1: be anything we want to be. You know when when liberals,
Speaker 1: when liberals think you're now too cock and too big
Speaker 1: for our bridges. You know why we're like we are
Speaker 1: because our parents told us that we're just as good
Speaker 1: as anybody else. I want to thank Vernon Jones for
Speaker 1: today's interview. If you're enjoying the show, please leave us
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