1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Up next how Loud with Giano called part of the 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: gig which switch. The Democratic Party thinks racism in facts 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: every inch of American life, except within his own ranks. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Today I exposed the Democratic Party's racism and show just 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: how destructive the Party of Jim Crow has been for 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: the black community. This is allied with Gianno Calledwell. Welcome 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: back to Allow with Gianno Caldwell, I've got a provocative 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: show for you guys this week. My guest is Vernon Jones, 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: who was a member of the Georgia House of Representatives 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen to January of this year, and previously 11 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: served in the same role from two thousand and one. 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: After his first tent in the Georgia House, Jones served 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: as the chief executive officer of Decap County, Georgia for 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: eight years. Jones is also a successful businessman and the 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: founder of the Waken Up America and organization dedicated to 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: promoting America's core values of hard work, self determination, and 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: the promise of the American dream. But Jones is perhaps 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: best known for becoming the first state elected Democratic official 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: in Georgia to endorse Donald Trump's reelection bid and Justin January, 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: he announced that he was leaving the Democratic Party and 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: joining the GOP. Today, I'm going to ask Jones why 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: he switched parties and so much more. Let's go so, 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: I want to begin with Georgia's new election law, which 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: Governor Briant Kemp just signed. The stated purpose of the 25 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: laws to protect against voter fraud and ensured Georgians Georgia's 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: elections are fair and honest. As you know, the law 27 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: does several things such as requiring a photo idea in 28 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: order to vote absentee by mail and giving the legislature 29 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: more control over administrating elections. And of course, the left 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: has called the law racists and it will disenfranchise voters 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: of color. What are your thoughts on this? A couple 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: of things. The left has really shaped the narrative, using 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Stacy Abrams as their shield to say it's okay to 34 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: call this racist. That's why Joe Biden is and it's 35 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: ray this. It's ironic that Joe Biden's home state has 36 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,279 Speaker 1: much more restrictive laws than Georgia, but he's not calling 37 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: his home state Jim Crow. Matter of fact, that's why 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: I called him Joe Crow. When you look at Georgia's 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: election laws historically, um mail in ballots were or apsotete 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: ballots were used for those people were handicapped or senior citizens, 41 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: or you had to have a legitimate excuse. When Stacy 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 1: Abrams lost her election, not narrowly lost, as she was 43 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: fifty five thousand votes when even getting into a runoff, 44 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: but the media ship as if she narrowly won or loss, 45 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: I should say, um, she got upset ful a lawsuit. 46 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: Nobody claimed by her finding lawsuit a matter of fact, Gianna, 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: I don't think she's even admitted yet that she's lost 48 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: that race. It's kind of interesting. Um, so she files 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: a lawsuit. And the Georgia's constitution is very clear. It 50 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: says that only the members of the Georgia General Assembly 51 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: have the authority to change election laws, not the Secretary 52 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: of State, not the governor. It has to be adopted 53 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: adopted through the members of the Georgia General simile mean meaning, 54 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: if you're gonna change anything, we can change it as 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: a legislator. The governor can veto it, of course, but 56 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: the Secretary of State has nothing to do with that. 57 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: And saw what you saw, what you saw happen. You 58 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: saw Stacy Abrams go in through a back door and 59 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: negotiate with the Secretary of State whose arms were not 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: as long as hers. You had Brian Kemp, who's fully 61 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: aware of it, signed off on it, who had been 62 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: a former state senator, a former secretary of State, and 63 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: now he's governor, and he signed off on that agreement. 64 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: The members of the General simbly knew nothing about it. 65 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: And here's what's iranic. What's iran is they were doing this, 66 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: didn't tell us about it, and it was all because 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 1: the governor is afraid of Stacy Abrams. They had made 68 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: her Godzilla in the State of Georgia and I'm sure 69 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: other places too. She is not the big bad wolf. Uh, 70 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: that's a paper tiger. Let me be clear. That is 71 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: a paper all right, and so um um. What's interesting 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: is that there's never been any litigation. An attorney general 73 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: sat on the sideline they all cut and rent on 74 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: the president. The Attorney General cuve Easy had gotten involved 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: and said whether or not it was constitution or not. 76 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: But he's even noticed. He's been silent. He is the 77 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: highest law enforcement officer in the State of Georgia. You 78 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: haven't heard him do anything or see anything about investigating anything, 79 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: and he's the highest law enforcement officer. He can do it. 80 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: And so when now let's get back to this racism 81 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and Jim Crow. This build. Someone was saying, including Jesse 82 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: Jackson and what's his name of the guy would like 83 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: to use all the big words, the black guy who 84 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: specializes in hip hop at the Ivy Lee School. I 85 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: can't think of his name right now. But but uh oh, 86 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: they're not allowing allowing people to have water. That's not true. 87 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: The way it sets up, it says that within a 88 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty feet you cannot bring it in one 89 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: water or food. Well, the lawyer is right, now, you 90 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: can't come in that particular part in campaign. That's where 91 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: campaigning starts. So people can get food, people can't get water. 92 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: That was a complete lie. And then the drop boxes. 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 1: Did you know that those drop boxes would just put 94 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: out there in an obscure place, no supervision, no camera, 95 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: no nothing. Now those drop boxes are located in the 96 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: area that's well supervised and it has to be in 97 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: an election precinct. Now what is Jim Crow? What is 98 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: racist about that? And finally, Gianna, you can get me 99 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: on this. If white Democrats and Republicans have to adhere 100 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: to the same law that black people have. Why is 101 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: it that is suppressing black votes and it's not suppressing 102 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: white votes. It's because you don't have an I D. Well, 103 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: you need an I D to check in the hotel, 104 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: you need an I D to go and buy a cigarettes, 105 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: to buy beverages, and an I D to get a 106 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: COVID shop. So you're saying, now black people either can't 107 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: have an idea. And by the way, I D s 108 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: are given out free in George if you want on 109 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: you can't have an I D. And you're not smart enough. 110 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: You're just dumb as a black person that you're now 111 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: going to be suppressed from voting. I tell you what 112 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: the vote suppression is. The voting suppression has been done 113 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: by Stacey Abrams and the Jim Crows that were still 114 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: in place, who painted a picture that black people are 115 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: deficient and defective. That's the real Jim Crow. You know. 116 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: There's a saying that the greatest trick the devil Everpool 117 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: was making people believe that he didn't exist. There's a 118 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: narrative in the Democratic Party that racism doesn't exist within 119 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: their party, and some people consider it a safe haven 120 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: from racism. As a long serving member who was a 121 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: Democrat for many many years, what say you well to me? 122 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: The most h the most devastating area, the most bigoted area, 123 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: the most racist racist party is the Democratic Party. For one, 124 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: they think they know what's best for black people. For two, 125 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: they want to think for black people. For three, they 126 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: want to build your habitat house, but not in their 127 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: neighborhoods uh. For four, they have gotten so high tech 128 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: where they were using black votes to carry out their 129 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: liberal agenda. Now because more and more blacks are running 130 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: as Democrats for these jobs that they always had, like 131 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: us and and govern everything else. So now what they 132 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: want to do. They're coming in and they're picking their 133 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: own black. Now they've gone high tech, they're picking their 134 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: own black to put all the resources behind so they 135 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: can get their person in office. For or not. That 136 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: was support aboarding babies at eight months, that was support 137 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: uh taking away your guns. That will support attacking you 138 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: because you're political ideology or political affiliation. That would support 139 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: this false sess of Jim Crow and not called Joe 140 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: Byen now for saying that if you don't black, you 141 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: don't if you're not black, you don't vote for him. 142 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: They don't call Joe Biden out by saying black people 143 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: aren't as diversity thinking as white people and more as Latinos, 144 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: and even more recently Giano not calling the Democrat Party 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: or Joe Biden for saying that the reason why black 146 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: people are more or disproports affected by COVID is because 147 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: we don't know how to go online and get information. Hell, 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: my four year old nephew can get online right now 149 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: and serve more than anybody else. I know. That's the 150 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: bigger tree in a Democratic party. And they don't want 151 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: people like you and me who think independently. And I 152 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: tell you what they use. They use the old method 153 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: when the slaves would leave the plantation, they would catch 154 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: them and bring them back. Who would they get the 155 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: whip the slaves. They would get black slaves to whip 156 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: the slaves in front of slaves. So they use the 157 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: Stacey Abrams and the others to whip you and me, 158 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: or try to whip us back on the damn plantation 159 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: for whites because now white liberals, because why because we're 160 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: thinking for ourselves now, we don't need them to think 161 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: for us. I wasn't raised a victim. They want you 162 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: to think you're a victim. Oh you're you're gonna be 163 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: suppressed by this vote of law, really, or your vote 164 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: is going to be much more protected. And why not 165 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: verify when you vote in person? Now, Giano, you have 166 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: to show your I D. If you go to Democratic 167 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: Party register for something, you got to show an I D. 168 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: Now why is that a person cannot show an idea 169 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: attached it to their mail in ballot. So it's better, 170 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: it's easy and more efficient to verify, Uh, your ballot 171 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: based on on identification card versus signatures. I signed my 172 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: signatures ten different ways a day. Don't verify me based 173 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: on my signature. Use my photo I D. But it's 174 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: never been a problem. It's not a problem. Now this 175 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: is fabricated and there you know what station Ables using 176 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: her folks out there to call these corporate companies like 177 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: Coca Cola and Delta said oh we're against this. But 178 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,959 Speaker 1: wait a minute, Delta, make Coca Cola, you were just 179 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: busted for trying to tell your employees, your quite employees, 180 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: not to be as white. Now what if somebody were 181 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: in the corporate America was telling us Giano, Uh, you 182 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: can't be that black, you can't be as black. We 183 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: would lose our mind. We were calling Coca cola Jim 184 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: pro plantation. You see the hypocrisy. A lot of people 185 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: know you. They know you from being one of the 186 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: first Well, I guess the only Democrats to to endorse 187 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: Presidents Trump's re election for Uh, you're a state representative 188 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: at the time. You've been involved with the Democratic Party 189 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: for years. I would imagine decades, and you can correct 190 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. The racism and the Democratic Party 191 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: didn't just start. So why did you stay in so long? Well, 192 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: you know what, you don't move quickly. You try to 193 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: change within first. You know it's not always Oh I quit. 194 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: I wasn't taught to be a quitter. But when I 195 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: really started to see that the Democratic Party does not 196 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 1: have the Black community at heart, at his heart, it 197 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: does not support the black agenda. It's supporting BIRA, transgender 198 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: males participating in female sports. They want to put they 199 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: want to pass legislation in Washington that you're your sex 200 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: or your gender is determined by your mannerisms. They want 201 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: to say that they're for hate crimes, but they let 202 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: black lives matter in teeth, attacked and fighting, even killed people, 203 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: even children, and they dope say anything about it. They're 204 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: burning churches now, and I'm like, wait a minute, this 205 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: is not the Democratic Party I know about. I mean, now, faith, 206 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: it's not even political. You have to be. It's kind 207 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: of funny. You can't even say you're a man now. 208 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: You can't even refer to your father and your mother 209 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: as your father and mother. They want you refer to 210 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: them as your parents. Are guardians children. They support children 211 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: getting transgender operations and being injected with hormones. Children. You 212 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: have to be eighteen just to devote, but you're gonna 213 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: change your child's body. Where is the science? You always 214 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: talk about following the science. See, they follow the science 215 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: when it's when it's convenyent for them. And so you 216 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: know what I said, By the way, I didn't leave 217 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: the party. Party left me, but I said I'm not 218 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: gonna go along with that. I'm not gonna I'm not 219 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: gonna deny my faith. I'm not going to deny my gender. 220 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna deny saying that I am a man 221 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: in supporting women and women sports. I'm not gonna deny 222 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: the science. I am not going to be more supportive 223 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: of children coming to this country illegally than the children 224 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: right here in the United States. Might just signed a 225 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: bill for eighty and inforce eight million dollars for hotel 226 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: expenses for illegal kids coming over from Mexico that he 227 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: invited to come over Giano, their children from your I 228 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: go to Atlanta, living on the streets and under bridges. 229 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: We're the hotels for them. We're the hotels for our homeless, 230 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: including those who have mental challenges. Wait a minute, and 231 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: to see the Democrat the liberals want to bring those 232 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: illegals in because everything that they're going to voting Democrat, 233 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: and that's gonna push black votes farther and farther down 234 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: the totem pole, where soon you won't even be irrelevant. 235 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: That why I said, I can't take this foolishness no more. 236 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: Enough was enough. Now let me ask you this question, 237 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: because since President Trump has been at office now he's 238 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: former President Trump, there's been very few people have had 239 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: an opportunity to sit down and meet with him and 240 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: talk with him. But you have been a frequent visitor 241 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: of President Trump in Florida, and I'm imagining you all 242 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: are having discussions about a number of different things, is it, Uh, 243 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: potentially discussions about you running for governor of Georgia. Has 244 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: been a lot of rumors you broke news last week. Uh. 245 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: People have been saying that you I mean, but it's true. 246 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: It's true. I'm seeing you in a lot of photos 247 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: with the former president and he The people that are 248 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: meeting with President Trump now are those who are more 249 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: of his inner circle than there's ever been. There's been 250 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: folks that met with him when he was at the 251 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: White House, um, stakeholders for different industries, et cetera. That's 252 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: what the president does. But in this state, especially considering 253 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: the fact that you came out so hard core form 254 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: in Georgia, one of the states that there was major 255 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: contention with Brian Kemp, the governor of Georgia and also 256 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: the Secretary of State, you spoke out against that as 257 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: an elected Democrat official. What's going on? Can you? Can 258 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: you let us in on the discussions you've been having 259 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: with President Trump and what's your future plans? Well, let 260 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: me say this general, I've always been a Bob Harrison 261 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: person Um. When I was in the legislation in the nineties, 262 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: I worked on both sides Stile. That's how I was raised. 263 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: I was raised faith based, hard work. The government doesn't 264 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: owe you anything, business opportunities. Create those opportunities, get educated. 265 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: That's just how it was reared. Um. But at the 266 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: same time, when I came out for President Trump, I 267 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: supported him in two thousand and sixteen, but nobody paid 268 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: me any attention because they didn't think he could win. 269 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: But when I came out for him in two thousand 270 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: and twenty, you were thought, all hell broke lose primary 271 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: because the Democrats and the liberal media, Oh, this cannot happen. 272 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: He doesn't fit the profile. How can he do that? 273 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: He's black. That showed a lot of the bigotry within 274 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: the liberal media and the Democratic Party. But I supported 275 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: President Trump because of his policies. Look, I went to 276 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: Historical Black College. And if I can sit around any 277 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: group of black liberals or whatever, and they'll gree with 278 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: me at the dinner table. I went to Historical Black 279 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: College North Carolina Central University. President Obama cut funding for HBCU. 280 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: President Trump came along and not only did it increase funding, 281 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: but he wrote it into law. And you're how important 282 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: is to have funding written into law? If you don't 283 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: think that's not important. Ask playing parents who when they 284 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: lose their funding, so gonna try to challenge their funding. Um. 285 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: At the same time, what he did for historical black 286 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: colleges um, that was important. But what he did for 287 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: prison reform was important. I have friends and relatives and 288 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: many other folks I know who have had family members 289 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: who were subjected to that crime bill the Joe Biden passed, 290 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: and you saw people giving time with the time didn't 291 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: master crime. And so when the President came and did 292 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: prison reform and allow a lot of these non violent 293 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: offenders to be released and have a second chance to 294 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: get the job and work and contribute to get back 295 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: with their families. As a father, as a brother, as 296 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: a son, that was important. What he did with opportunities, 297 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: own districts, What he did with the border, when he 298 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: when he built the start building the wall back and 299 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: stopped to stop and release and start stopping them and 300 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: taking them back, catching and return. That was good policy 301 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: of us. Not that he didn't support immigration, but look, 302 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: we had to secure the border. And I can think 303 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: of a number of things that I can remember. When Gino, 304 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean Gianno, I'm sorry. When Craig Melvin Gianno, I 305 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: remember and Craig Melvin was interview. I mean, the only 306 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: time I've ever been on a liberal station. CN has 307 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: never had me. And when he asked me why I 308 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: support President Trump. When I was telling me, I was 309 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: going down things of policy, and the first thing that 310 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: came out of his mouth you could tell he was 311 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: radioed in his ear and he asked me. He interrupted me, 312 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: asked me how much of the Trump campaign paying you? 313 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: How much is the Trump campaign paying me? He never asked, 314 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: Say Abram's about the five million dollars that she got 315 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: from from the former mayor of Bloomberg. She never asked. 316 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: They never asked her and all these other blacks how 317 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: much money they have gotten from the Democrats. Matter of fact, 318 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of them got nothing, but they just working there. 319 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: But many of them did. And it's like it was 320 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: an insult. Because that's why I didn't want to die 321 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: from this president. I just support its policy. So I 322 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: came out strong for him, and I will continue to 323 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: come out strong for him. Now where we are now, 324 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: I've been visiting the President. Yes, I've been fortunate enough 325 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: to maintain a relationship with him because I am interested 326 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: in growing the Republican Party. I didn't join the party 327 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: just to be a member. I came to the grand 328 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: old Party bringing a grand new party, grand new ideas, 329 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: grand new people, grand new opportunities, and I want to 330 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: help this party through my leadership that I can share 331 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 1: with them to grow this party. The President is the 332 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: Republican Party, whether they like it or not. And I 333 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: want to know where his thoughts were, where his thoughts were, 334 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: where he's headed, was his agenda. How I can still 335 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: remain a part of his agenda because I believe in 336 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: what he's doing. So we've had that dialogue. Clearly, I 337 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: think many people, especially those in their right mind, are 338 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: going to try to see the president. I want to 339 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: talk to the President about their personal or future aspiration 340 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: and politics. I think that's a normal thing because he's 341 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: very influential and Georgia has an eight eight percent approval rate. 342 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: Now let me get bringing us on home. I am 343 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: very seriously considering and been doing due diligence and going 344 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: across this state and having conversations with small business people 345 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: that nobody know, individuals who don't see them in a newspaper, farmers, 346 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 1: uh school teachers, police officers, those who would have physical 347 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: conditions where they are having to have some assistance from 348 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: the government. But but you know it's for the right reasons. 349 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking to a number of people, corporations, to colleges, students. 350 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm focusing a lot on students, and I can tell 351 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: you this, Governor Kemp and the Secretary of State let 352 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: the president down and let the people of Georgia down 353 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,959 Speaker 1: a number of ways. First of all, if I were 354 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: a governor, President Trump would have won Georgia. He would 355 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: have won these other states as well. And you may say, well, 356 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: how vernon, Well, first of all, I would not have 357 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: allowed the Secretary of State or sign off on with 358 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: the Secretary of State and states Abrams did to change 359 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: the mail out process, mail in battot process. That really 360 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: created a quadmire, that really created the opportunity for fraud. Secondly, 361 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: I would have done a health a lot better job 362 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: and selecting who he selected to fill Johnny Issens unexpired term. 363 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: The natural person who had the grid, the guts and 364 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: the courage and the experience was Doug Collins. Doug College 365 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: should have been in there. That race had been over, 366 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: we'd won both of those. You had senate races Plus 367 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: I would have campaigned a lot more across the state 368 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: for the president and across this country. I would have 369 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: been in Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Arizona. I would have been 370 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: all over this country for the president. Look at what 371 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: I just as a state representative, how much I was 372 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: out there for. But as a governor a state of Georgia, 373 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: that's what been that would have been even more influencing. 374 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: So yeah, I have concerns with what this government did. 375 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: He cutt and Randy didn't have the courage I thought 376 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: he should have had, hadn't displayed um. Not to say 377 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 1: that I'm asking him to do something wrong, but I'm 378 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: asking to stand up for the people of Georgia. For 379 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: nothing else. He showed no fight. He didn't call a 380 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: special session. He didn't bring this out to the legislature. Hey, 381 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: we changed these election laws, and he knew better. He 382 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: was a Secretary of State. So it's about leadership and 383 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 1: the legislature. They did take a step in the right 384 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: direction to address those election luke holes. However, that's a 385 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: daughter Layton and a day short. The president should the 386 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: governor should have had that done in the special session, 387 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: and he didn't. He failed so this failure leadership and 388 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: then he wants to come in with this grand photo, 389 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: not realizing that behind him was a pitch of a plantation. 390 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean that goes to show you he's absolutely don't 391 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: understand people around him. He's not making good decisions. And 392 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm very, very seriously considering h being the 393 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: governor state of Georgia as a Republican. That's where I am, 394 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: and so we'll be making that decision though very short 395 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: I have not made that decision yet, but we will 396 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: be making a very shortly. We're talking to the one 397 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: and only Vernon Jones. We got much more with him 398 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: out their quick break. What is President Trump saying to you, 399 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: because I'm sure you've had these conversations with him, you 400 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: you're considering running for governor of Georgia. That's going to 401 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: be a very hot state for him this next coming election, 402 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: and that's in every way beyond twenty and beyond just 403 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: this is gonna be one of his targeted states. Is 404 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: he supporting you running for governor of Georgia? Let me 405 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 1: say this, no, nobody can disagree. The President appreciates how 406 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: I stood up for him. The President appreciates how it 407 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: stood up for this country and how it stood up 408 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: for Georgia. UM, we have a great relationship. At this 409 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: point in time as too early for anybody to be 410 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: doing any endorsements. I would say for the president. I'm 411 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: not saying that he can help his business, but I 412 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,959 Speaker 1: would love to have the President's support. It would make 413 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: a huge difference to have his support. And at the 414 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,239 Speaker 1: appropriate time those discussions will be held. But I can 415 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: tell you this, the president can see who stood up 416 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: for him when times are rough, and who's asking for 417 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: his support now when they thought he wasn't gonna be standing, 418 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: still standing when the dull cell. This president is strong, 419 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,959 Speaker 1: and that's what I like about him. He's a man's man. 420 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: He has courage, he'll fight and and he's doing it 421 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: for the right reason. He could be doing so many 422 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: other things, but he really believes in America first, and 423 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm totally call up into that with him. I believe 424 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: in America first two, and I think he wants to 425 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: see He's gonna be involved in Georgie, He's gonna be 426 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: involved in other states too, because he wants to see 427 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: people elected that would stand up for for America and 428 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: have the guts and the courage to do so and 429 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: fight the left who's destroying this country. Look at what 430 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: has happening now. Crisis are being created because of Joe Biden, 431 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: and Joe Biden is there. Let me tell you what 432 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: I've learned. And I've been a legislator for twelve years, 433 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: I've been a chief executive account executive for another eight. 434 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: I've had to run a government. Probably I have more 435 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: executive speris than than the governor that's there now in 436 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: certainly state's abrams Um. But let me tell you what's important. 437 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: When you have to make tough decisions, you don't need 438 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: somebody in there who's going with the political wins, who 439 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 1: are afraid to make the decisions and so um, I 440 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: would feel very comfortable being a chief executive of the 441 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 1: State of Georgia and getting things done, moving to state forward, 442 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: and not being afraid and not being afraid to get 443 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: involved these corporate companies out there who probably never they 444 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: never read the damn bill, and all of a sudden 445 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: they're taking the issue with it because of the pressures 446 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: from Stacy abrams Um. We're not gonna play that kind 447 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: of game, and I'm not gonna engage in a in 448 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: a closed uh effort to change something or stand for something. 449 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: I believe I would have done this. I would have 450 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: clearly taking additional step and deal with the voting system. 451 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: That that's one thing that people, no matter what they change, 452 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: many Georgians are concerned about. They do not feel comfortable 453 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: with it, and the President doesn't feel comfortable with it. 454 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: So the President is gonna be having people he believed 455 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: that that supports his agenda. Um, and and believe in 456 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: his agenda. That's did one thing from just supporting it, 457 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: but believing in and so yes, he's gonna be very 458 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: involved in candidates in twenties two. Okay, So you in 459 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: other words, you've not you've had the discussion, but you've 460 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: not had a formal discussion with the president about you 461 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: potentially running for governor. Then that's what I'm hearing you say. 462 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: In other words, I got the right yo yo. Now 463 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking for the whole stream. Okay, very good, very good. So, 464 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,479 Speaker 1: as someone as you just mentioned how many years you've 465 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: been in office, and the course it spans well over 466 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: a decade, you are very familiar with folks on the 467 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: national end of the Democratic Party. You know these people 468 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: you I'm sure you had friendships with them, your friends 469 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 1: with these folks locally. What is the Democratic Party's playbook 470 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: these days? Is that identity politics and calling everyone a racist. 471 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: Giving your experience as a Democrat, are there any special 472 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: insights that you have into their goals and political strategy 473 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: that conservatives might not be aware of. Yeah, here's a 474 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: Democratic party's playbook. It's very simple. Continue to push a 475 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: liberal gender agenda where we become a genderless society. Continue 476 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: to do more for other countries than to do for 477 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: our own country. Continue to do things to scare and 478 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: put fear and black voters minds and hearts so they 479 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: continue to vote Democrat, and to continue to let them 480 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: are i should say, brainwash them to feel that haven't 481 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: we been taken care of you all? Let us take 482 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: care of you, We know what you need. Don't worry 483 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: about anything. You don't need to think. That's their agenda. 484 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: Their agenda does not in any They involve bringing black 485 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: people out of dire conditions. They want, you know what, 486 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: They want people to remain on programs. They don't want 487 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: them to have jobs. They want to have programs. They 488 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: want to continue to lean on the government. Thing the governy. 489 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: The government is here to help. We're gonna help you. No, 490 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: we want to help ourselves. But we've been we've been 491 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: conditioned to be that way. And again, because they think 492 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: about this, If the Democratic Party lost just of the 493 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: black vote, they could not get elected. If they lost 494 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: consistently fifty percent of the black vote, you'll start to 495 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: see more and more Democrats lose. Why and more and 496 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: more Republicans win. Why Because Democrats cannot win without the 497 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: black vote. Republicans used to be able to win without 498 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: the black votes. But they're running out of white conservatives. 499 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: They're running out, so they're gonna have to grow the party. 500 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: And you have to grow the party by going word. 501 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: The conservatives are. They're in the Democratic Party, but they 502 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: just don't trust the Republican. They'll tell you, oh yeah, 503 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party has been taking me for granted. None 504 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: of all of them would tell you that. But I'm 505 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: choosing less of two eevers. We have been the less 506 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: of two EETs. Let me think about this now, for 507 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: sixty years you've been voting Democrat and you're still singing 508 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: someday we'll overcome. And just four years were President Trump 509 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: and and he didn't get maybe maybe said the most, 510 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: he did more for the African American community in four years, 511 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: and they half for them in the past sixty years. 512 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Joe Biden been there for forty seven years, and nobody 513 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: can tell me to this day. Maybe because I know 514 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: you do a lot of your research, can you tell 515 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: me anything that Joe Biden has done to help black 516 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: people in any way other than put them in jail? No? 517 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, Joe Biden. This is this is the 518 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: hardest part for me. I'll tell you. If we're talking 519 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: about Joe Biden, especially racism, and those terms are thrown 520 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: around quite a bit these days, it is extraordinarily difficult 521 00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: for someone to be intellectually honest if they say that 522 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a racist and Joe Biden isn't a racist. 523 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to me. If you consider 524 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: if you consider President Donald Trump a racist by any measure, 525 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: you cannot say that Joe Biden isn't a racist. I 526 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: will say that I believe that there and when it 527 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: comes to Joe Biden, his policies have been much more 528 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: destructive than anything that President Trump has said period. So 529 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: with that being the case, I believe in policy over rhetoric, 530 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: and Joe Biden has felt that test time and time again. 531 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: Now we're in a situation where the Democratic Party UM, 532 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: which has had a monopoly on the black vote for many, 533 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: many years, and we've seen people like you and many 534 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: others who have decided to step out. I stepped out 535 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: over a decade ago. I became a conservative. Now is 536 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: the time for conservatives to really embrace the black community 537 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: in a way that they never have. You mentioned correctly, 538 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: they're the numbers in terms of growth in the Hispanic community, 539 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: Black community. The Republican Party has to in order to survive, 540 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: It has to wrap his around, its arms around like 541 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: the minority community. Otherwise it doesn't. So what do we 542 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: do from here? Continuing the Trump policies, I think is 543 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: a part of it. Uh, but what else do we do? 544 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: You you have insights that no one else has. What 545 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: else is it the Republicans should be doing in order 546 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: to get these folks into the tent. First of all, 547 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen overnight. But President Trump showed that 548 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: if you invest, you getting ready to return when he 549 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: had two million more black men to come out and 550 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: support him. That's huge. It goes to show you're right there. 551 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: You have a potential right there. In the black male community. 552 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: We have to engage black males from college to fraternities 553 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: and sororities, pastors, the church community and religious community, through 554 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: other nonprofit organizations, through men's organizations. We have to come 555 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: in and say, hey, wait a minute, listen, here's what 556 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: we stand for. We want you to have a job. 557 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: We want you to have the opportunity your own business. 558 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: Look at our policy. We offered up the when they 559 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: offered up to have billion dollars for black businesses, not 560 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: minority business because minority now could be so stressed so far, 561 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: but for black businesses. How we talk about Look, we 562 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: are men. Let's not lose the fact that we're men. 563 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: There's an attack under the attack against the straight male. 564 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter was founded by three lesbians. And what 565 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: did they do. They went to the heart and the 566 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: nucleus of the black community, the black man to destroy that, 567 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: to take that away. Now, Republicans have to be committed. 568 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: Here's what I have. Where I come in and you 569 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: and others come in. We have to hold those Republicans accountable. 570 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: You cannot here Georgia, for example, David Purdue and Kelly Loffler. 571 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: You cannot put two black people in a commercial them 572 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, that's your outreach, that's that's 573 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: that's you're getting the black vote. No, that dog will 574 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: not hunt when you really start like Donald Trump, and 575 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: he Donald Trump's Mesican be saying, no matter where you're 576 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: going from a black or white audience, Donald Trump beginning 577 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: for a white, all white audience, and say, look, here's 578 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: what we've done for African Americans. All right, here's what 579 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: he's not afraid to see it. Republicans got to get 580 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: out there and start talking up and engaging directly on 581 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: African Americans. They got to talk to talk, and they 582 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 1: have to walk to walk. Why aren't they concentrating on 583 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: African Americans? And Seapack concentrating on African Americans and and 584 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: uh and from from from the top. And I'm having 585 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: dialogue with Ronald Mcdonnald McDaniel, where is the real African 586 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: American engagement? Now's the time to do this. You see, 587 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: you can't win. There are a lot of us out there. 588 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: More bofers are coming every single day. But I'm not 589 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna wait on them either, though, Gianna, let's let's be clear, 590 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm a Republican, so with us as much 591 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: as my responsibility as it is, there's and so not 592 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: only I'm gonna be vocal and continue be vocal with them, 593 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be vocal with myself. You're a vocal You 594 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: know how many African American young men who know of 595 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: you never got a chance to meet you. And you 596 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: went to college. That's why I'm going to college is 597 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: to meet them, to say, look, you have a choice. 598 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: I'm not here to get you to change parties. I'm 599 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: getting you to change your mind about only looking one way, 600 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: look both ways. Look at what we're really offering. The 601 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: older generation, they've been locked in so long they can't 602 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: get out of it. But the newer generation, and we're 603 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: talking about the future Republican Party. The future Republican Party. 604 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: Giano looks like you and me. That's the future the 605 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: Republican Party. We need to pause here for a quick break, 606 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: but we'll be back in the second. What do you 607 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: say to the critics that say, oh, you're looking to 608 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: run for governor as a Republican, but you just became 609 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: a Republican. I think you change party's in January. If 610 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: I'm correct, what do you say to those critics? Well, 611 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: let's look at the last three Republican governors, all but 612 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp. We're Democrats. Nobody said anything about that, not 613 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: a word. Nobody said anything about Zell Miller, who was 614 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: a Democrat who came out and and supported President George W. 615 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: Bush and spoke at Republican National Convention. Nobody said anything 616 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 1: about that. The Democrats were hashtag silent. But wait a minute, 617 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: why is the issue when a black man stands out 618 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: like that? Well, you know what, I've always been a 619 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: barrier breaker, So We're gonna break that bear. We're gonna 620 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: knock that roll down. So other young African Americans or 621 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: anybody else who want to change parties, they don't have 622 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,240 Speaker 1: the issue of white people with changing from Democrats Republican. 623 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: Almost every day, nobody said anything about it. So I 624 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,960 Speaker 1: underst stand, I understand the burden that I care, the 625 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 1: cross that I care, But who other than me can 626 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: care of this cross? Who other than me can have 627 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: this type of influence and this day and this time. 628 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: So you know what, I don't care about that. But 629 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 1: they don't realize I've always been conservative. You can you 630 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: know what many liberal Republicans I know, and how many 631 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 1: conservative Democrats I know? It's about conservative I've always been conservative. 632 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: I haven't changed who Vernon is. That's why I said 633 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 1: the party left me. I didn't leave the party. The Democrat, 634 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 1: the Republican party espouse more of what my beliefs are, 635 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 1: my core beliefs. So I'm much more comfortable change in 636 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: Jerseys And you know what, but it ain't about party, 637 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: because that's what's got grid lock going on to Washington 638 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: right now. Who are people who are willing to stand 639 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: up and do the job work across the owl and 640 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: get things done. I'd like to get things done, and 641 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: I have a record of getting things done. Besides you 642 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: potentially running for governor, do you have any other big 643 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: projects coming out the folks at homes you know about? Well, 644 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, I found it waking up America dot US. 645 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: Waking up America dot US. Where that organization I'm concentrating 646 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: on several things. One obviously for law enforcement, fighting socialism 647 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: and Marxism, supporting those conservative and recruiting other African Americans, 648 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: and going to college and university, reaching out to young people, 649 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: growing the party that way, but also school choice and 650 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: that that's something we hadn't talked about. I'm pushing school 651 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: choice and let me tell you why. Here's what's interest 652 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: in Gianna. Those kids that are coming over here. Now, 653 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: they're coming over here, and the Democrats are saying, come on, 654 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: come on. Uh, they're looking for a better life for 655 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: their kids. Okay, I can understand that. So they give 656 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 1: them all these services. They get them in schools now here. 657 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: Black kids who are trapped in failing schools based on 658 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: Democrats policies. And you have a black mother whose kid 659 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: is trapped there based on that zip code. She can't 660 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: she's in a failing school and she cannot. She cannot 661 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,280 Speaker 1: take her kid and put a kid in a performance school. 662 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 1: Now what if she goes and lies about her address 663 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: to get her child into performing school and they find 664 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: out that her that she lied on her address, They 665 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: throw the child out. There's no sanctuary school for that child. 666 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: And you know what, the mother gets arrested for Lyne. Now, 667 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: let me understand something. You have illegals that can come 668 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: across the border illegally, and you give them a place 669 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 1: to sleep and put them in a school. You give 670 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: all these wrap around services and you have American families, 671 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: American children who are trapped in these Familian schools, and 672 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: when their mother go in lives and get their kids 673 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: in a performing school because they want to have been 674 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: a life for their kids too, then where is the 675 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: sanct wary for that child at that school? Why is 676 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: that parent now arrested? It doesn't make sense. It does 677 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: not make sense, and so that's what I'm fighting. And 678 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: black people, I don't care what you say. They do 679 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: want their child in a performing school. Why can't the 680 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: money follow the chowlel Why not? Gianna? Why not? Yeah? 681 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think we should. We 682 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: should live in a a blind society, especially when it 683 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: comes to an application of laws. So you can't come 684 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: into the country break our laws, be here and then 685 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: say oh yeah we need to rest people for this, 686 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 1: that and the other. It's either we're all equal or 687 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: we're not. And that's what it comes down to. So 688 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that that point, and thank you for 689 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 1: your point of view on that. And they get paid, 690 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: they get paid to break along coming to this country. 691 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: They get paid because they free services, free government services, free. 692 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: That's that any other free hotel room, etcetera. I mean, 693 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's the darnest thing. And so yeah, 694 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: that's my other project. I've been going across the country 695 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: preaching that and again recruiting and uh, just getting people 696 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: to wake up, open your eyes and see what's happening 697 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: and look at what's really happened here. And you know, 698 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of funny, you and I both have experienced 699 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,239 Speaker 1: African Americans attacking us. Here's what I've been trying to 700 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: get this in my mind. I got people that I've 701 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: known when the llege with living my neighborhood, uh, going 702 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: to church with met just through social gatherings that I've 703 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: been knowing all my life, damn near and you know what, 704 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: they're mattered at me for believing what I believe in, 705 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 1: then they're real oppressor. Joe Biden is the one who 706 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: said you can't think. Joe Biden is the one who said, 707 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: if you don't vote for me, you're not black. Joe 708 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: Biden is the one who said that you know, he 709 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,240 Speaker 1: doesn't want his kids grow up into a racial jungle. 710 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: He was on who jailed your black men. He was 711 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: the one who owned property on the home that said 712 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: that in indeed that he couldn't sell it to a 713 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: black family. But you want to beat me up and 714 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 1: not beat him up. You want you want to. I 715 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 1: just I just don't understand that how they don't want 716 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: to fight their real oppress. You know, David Dukes today 717 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: right now that they black sea as a big clansman 718 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: can go and run as a Democrat right now and 719 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,320 Speaker 1: Black people will vote for him just the because he 720 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: has a deep beside his name. And you remember this now, 721 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: remember Joe Biden said that he was considering one time 722 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: having a Republican and a vice presidential candidate as vice 723 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,959 Speaker 1: president running mate. He actually said that not a word 724 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: from black people or Democrats, not a word, not a word. 725 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: And you know the going back to Bigger tree in 726 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, you noticed that they grade their candidates. 727 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: What do you mean vernon grade? Why can't they ever 728 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: select somebody that both of their parents are black? Why 729 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: why can't they Why can't they ever support why can't 730 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 1: they ever select for vice president president? We're both of 731 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 1: the parents are black. I understand your point on David Duke, 732 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: And just for clarification for the audience, who want to 733 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: make sure that people understand exactly what you're saying. You're 734 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: saying when you mentioned David Duke, that black folks generally 735 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: or even just Democratic voter will vote for it just 736 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: about anyone because they have a D next to their name, 737 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: not necessarily that they would vote for David Duke generally, 738 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: who's obviously someone that a lot of folks know as 739 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: a klansman and and a racist. So I I get 740 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: your point completely. That's what you were saying. Right, Here's 741 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Let me be specific. If David Dukes 742 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: were to turn today and become a Democrat and we're 743 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: the run against run against Joe Biden or any other Republican, 744 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: they would vote for David Dukes just because he called 745 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 1: himself a Democrat. And that's mostly black people. White people 746 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 1: were the only race look at just look at the numbers. 747 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: We're the only race that's been voting consistently for the 748 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: past sixty years, ninety of one party. Asians don't do it. 749 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,759 Speaker 1: Native Americans don't do it, um um um. Indians don't 750 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: do it. Specifically, Islanders don't do it. Whites don't do it. 751 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: With the only ones, which they really did a good 752 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: job of branding that D in our minds. And you 753 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 1: know what, you could be the most loved black person 754 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: right today if T D. Jake's changed, If t D 755 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: D T D. Jakes today said I gonna run as 756 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: a democ as a Republican, he would lose and keeping 757 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 1: the same core values, he would lose his entire church. Yeah, 758 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,839 Speaker 1: but let a white person change parties. First of all, 759 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: no white people are gonna call him all those names, 760 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: those racial names. They're not gonna call him all those 761 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: racial names. But when black people do it, we get 762 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,800 Speaker 1: attacked based on our race. We get attacked based on 763 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: our race. What did they call us? Sellouts? And they're 764 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: only it's some of them so stupid. They don't even 765 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 1: know what Uncle Tomy is when they call your uncle Tom. 766 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: If they knew they were complimenting you, they wouldn't do it. 767 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: But they compliment you when they call Uncle Tom. It's 768 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: just pathetic. It's just pathetic how white people have got 769 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: White liberals have gotten into black people's heads to that extent. Wow, 770 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,920 Speaker 1: you sound like you're very you're very fired up. And 771 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 1: there are some points that I agree wholehearted with you 772 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: on um. Others I don't know about the David do 773 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,280 Speaker 1: come and I leave that for you in your opinion. 774 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: I'll leave that in your camp. But but in Chicago, 775 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: so here here's the here's the distinction, and I'll tell 776 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: you this. There's this guy. He used the state represent 777 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: name as Ken Duncan. He ran uh. He was a 778 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: state rep for many many years, very beloved, and this 779 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: guy helped a Republican governor. He worked across the aisle. 780 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: And when people found out he was working across the aisle, 781 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: the entire Democratic Party turned their back on him. Even 782 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: President Obama started cutting ads for state representative race because 783 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: he helped Ken Duncan helped a Republican governor and it 784 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: was an issue that was beneficial for his constituents. So 785 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: they said, oh no, this is absolutely not allowed. And 786 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,359 Speaker 1: it went so far. The Obama did the campaign as 787 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: for this other person, and he went down to the 788 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: state capital and gave an address before the state the 789 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: State Assembly, so the both chambers of the House and 790 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: the Senate in Illinois in Springfield, and he called out 791 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: Ken Duncan on the floor. Ken Duncan lost that race, 792 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: and he was one of the most beloved state reps 793 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,400 Speaker 1: in the state of Illinois. Very pro black guy, but 794 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: he wanted to do what was best for his constituents, 795 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: and if that been working with the Republican, so be it. 796 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,440 Speaker 1: But now he's no longer. So I understand. I understand 797 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 1: your point completely. In history tells that to be a 798 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 1: true story. I get that. Um, the David Duke think 799 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,440 Speaker 1: that's yours. I'll let you keep that. But thank you, 800 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much. Let me tell you, if you 801 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: put slavery on the ballot right now, liberals would be 802 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: for it. Put it on the balance, and see how 803 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: many votes he would get. Put it on the ballot, 804 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: and watch what liberals do. If slavery was back in 805 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: existing today, the slave owners would be Now you probably said, Vernon, 806 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 1: you're just as crazy as you can be. But no, Diana, 807 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm keeping it real. Think about this soon. Ator. Robert 808 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 1: Bird was a card carrying chapter president of the Clue 809 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 1: Klux Klan voted against the civil rights and the votes 810 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: right at Joe Biden said, that's his hero, Harry Clinton, 811 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: that's my mentor. Joe Biden utilized him a klansman. And 812 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: black people won't even talk about it. You can't even 813 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,359 Speaker 1: Oh Trump did, but wait, let's forget about Trump. Let's 814 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:46,399 Speaker 1: talk about what Joe really, really, really and the man 815 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 1: right now says stuff that that clearly bigg at it, 816 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: and black people won't say a damn thing. I'm not confused. 817 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,879 Speaker 1: I agree that he if he was a Republican, I'm 818 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,279 Speaker 1: sure there will be picked forks outside of his house 819 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: and everybody would be going crazy over it. I get it. 820 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,240 Speaker 1: I mean, we look at Virginia. We saw with Governor Northam. 821 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 1: We said and and people said, oh, we don't care 822 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 1: if he's racist, he's a Democrat. And I mean, truly, 823 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: these things have happened, So I don't disagree with you 824 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 1: on that point. I truly appreciate your time. Thank you 825 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 1: for joining allt with Gianno Caldwell and bringing a very 826 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: important perspective. And certainly as a person who has been 827 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 1: a member of the Democratic Party for many, many years, 828 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: I think Republicans would do well by taking a meeting 829 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 1: or two and having a strategy conversations with you about 830 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: how to uh embrace communities who unlike when Trump was 831 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: in office, who really stuck his neck out to bring 832 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: about policies and embrace the community, the Republican Party overall 833 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,719 Speaker 1: hasn't necessarily done that, and President Trump certainly took it 834 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: to another level. So when he won in twenties sixteen, 835 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,120 Speaker 1: he had eleven percent of the black vote of black men, 836 00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,399 Speaker 1: and those numbers went to double digit this this time 837 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520 Speaker 1: around in and I'm sure he can build on that 838 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: if he decides to run again in So we we 839 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: love having new blood, new ideas, fresh diversity and the 840 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: Republican Party. And thank you for being a part of it. Well, 841 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,800 Speaker 1: thank you too. And you know, I gotta tell you, Giano, 842 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: President Trump inspired me to come to the Republican Party, 843 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: not as much as the Republican Party. What they were 844 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: doing is what Trump, President Trump did, So I'd say, hey, 845 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 1: wait a minute, here's a Republican who understands, who wants 846 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 1: to build this party, who wants to have a diverse party. 847 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 1: He wants everybody have an opportunity. That's what experiences I'm 848 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,160 Speaker 1: hoping me and other individuals, even when the Republican Party 849 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 1: as a whole, maybe it's not coming from the top, 850 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 1: but people like you and me and others, we are 851 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: the Republican Party too, and people trust us. We have 852 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: my own constituency and so I'm sure you've been you 853 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: when I first heard you go on and first heard 854 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: about you and see you're talking. I'm like, wait a minute, 855 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: shoot this this brother is thinking what I'm thinking. So 856 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: even when you didn't know that, you inspired me. You 857 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: inspired me. I'm like, okay, I got somebody else out 858 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:13,400 Speaker 1: there thinking just like me. And and that choir starts 859 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: to get bigger and bigger, you know. And so man, 860 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,759 Speaker 1: you don't know here. Yeah, I'm a I'm a seasoned lawmaker, 861 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: been around this business for thirty years. I'm inspired by 862 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: Gianno cardwell too, I'm inspired. And I quote you a 863 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 1: lot of time. I said, listen to that brother. Man up. 864 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,560 Speaker 1: Look he's not in policy. I'm in politics. Okay, you 865 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: want to call me a politicis right here. Here's here's 866 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 1: somebody who grew up not with a silver spoon in 867 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 1: his mouth, and he's not he's not crying victim. He's 868 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: trying to open your mind, the open doors and get 869 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: you to see way amend and this is America. Yeah, 870 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 1: we're not gonna say there's no racism. It would be 871 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 1: stupid to say that. But that's not what's causing us 872 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: to holding us back. It doesn't make any sense for 873 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: kids not to go to school. Now, in my time 874 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: my parents, they couldn't go to school. Man, they had 875 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: to take turns to go to school because they had 876 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: to work on a damn farm and they can't get 877 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,320 Speaker 1: past the third grade. All I had to do was 878 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: go to school. All kids have to do now is 879 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: go to school. Don't tell me you can't get an education. 880 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: Don't tell me you can all right, I don't want 881 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,880 Speaker 1: to hear that. Don't tell me there's no opportunities. Is 882 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: it hard yet? But guess what You and I both 883 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: know what our parents teach us. Um that we have 884 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: to work twice as hard, be twice as smart. But 885 00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: we can do it. We can get ahead. We can 886 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,040 Speaker 1: be anything we want to be. You know when when liberals, 887 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: when liberals think you're now too cock and too big 888 00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: for our bridges. You know why we're like we are 889 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: because our parents told us that we're just as good 890 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: as anybody else. I want to thank Vernon Jones for 891 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: today's interview. 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