WEBVTT - Hitting On People At Funerals

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to Dear Chelsea. Thanks for tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>and listening. Do you tune in it? I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what goes on anymore. I have to say that I

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<v Speaker 1>had the absolute best time playing the Santa Barbara Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to thank everyone who was there. It was

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<v Speaker 1>such good vibes. I had tons of friends come out,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just really excited about my stand up tour.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to give you guys some more stand

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<v Speaker 1>up dates. If you live in Cincinnati, September, I'm coming

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<v Speaker 1>to Cincinnati. If you live there, get your tickets. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming to Detroit on October one. October two, I'm coming

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<v Speaker 1>to Indianapolis. That's in Indiana, and then October three I

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<v Speaker 1>will be in Grand Rapids, Michigan. So I am coming

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<v Speaker 1>to perform Taft Theater, Filmore Detroit, Detroit, the Murat in Indianapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Davos Performance Hall in Grand Rapids. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't live in one of those cities, I'm probably

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<v Speaker 1>coming to a city near you. I'm coming to Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of action in Florida. I'm coming to Portland, Maine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm coming to Jacksonville, Miami, Beach St. Petersburg, going to Arizona, Reno,

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<v Speaker 1>I am coming to you, and I hope that you

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<v Speaker 1>guys come and see my vaccinated in Horny too are

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<v Speaker 1>because it's so much fun and I go off. It's

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<v Speaker 1>O G Chelsea, I am. I'm just so sick of

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trying. I've been homeless everybody for for I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not homeless. I'm in a rental house, but I might

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<v Speaker 1>as well be homeless because everything in this rental house

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<v Speaker 1>was broken so many times. I just can't even believe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost like I'm in a practical joke show like

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<v Speaker 1>Girls Behaving Badly, a show that I used to be on.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's pranking me. First, there was an

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<v Speaker 1>electrical fire. I had to be taken out of the

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<v Speaker 1>house by the l A p D. Or no, the

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<v Speaker 1>l A Fire Department. The police were not there, thankfully

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't like me either, and they had to

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<v Speaker 1>basically lift me over the gate to the rental house

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<v Speaker 1>because the gate would not open or close. So I

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<v Speaker 1>slept in a hotel for seven days. Then I came back.

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<v Speaker 1>Then the A C broke in the house, then the

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<v Speaker 1>oven broke, then the air conditioning broke again, and then

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<v Speaker 1>they pulled something out of the air conditioning unit that

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<v Speaker 1>looked like something my father would have dreury rigged together

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<v Speaker 1>when he was a car dealer, a used car dealer.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like duct tape, like a phone wrapped in

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<v Speaker 1>duct tape, with styrophone stuffed in between the phone and

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<v Speaker 1>the duct tape in the middle of the air conditioning conduit.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just looked at it, and I thought, is

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<v Speaker 1>this my father haunting me? I am in a rental

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<v Speaker 1>house that is tantamount to the rental house that my

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<v Speaker 1>father used to rent on Martha's Vineyard, where he described

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<v Speaker 1>the basement as a pie de te, Like, I am

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<v Speaker 1>paying a large amount of money for a house that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work, and the owners seem to think that they're

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<v Speaker 1>not responsible for any of these inconveniences. So I am

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<v Speaker 1>just like you know, and I'm at a point where

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm not gonna get involved with these kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>arguments and stuff because I just can't. It's too silly

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<v Speaker 1>and it's too much of a waste of your time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would like to go on the record and

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<v Speaker 1>say that I have not cried once, and five years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>before therapy, I would have been a real basket case.

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<v Speaker 1>But I've slept without air conditioning several nights. Now I

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<v Speaker 1>have fans that I have to turn on, and I'm thriving,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just waiting to get the hell out of there.

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<v Speaker 1>So if anyone knows of another rental that I could

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<v Speaker 1>rent in the meantime, please, I'm looking in that Greater

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<v Speaker 1>l A area. Maybe it's time for me to move

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<v Speaker 1>to the valley. Maybe I just give it and give up.

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<v Speaker 1>And additionally, I had a house that I bought, but

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<v Speaker 1>then I found out that Mulholland Drive owns like part

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<v Speaker 1>of the land in front of the house that I bought.

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<v Speaker 1>So I pulled out of that house as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I found out that at any point the city of

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles could decide to widen Mulholland and my lawn

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<v Speaker 1>would be shortened. I thought. That also reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>my father. They have an easeman. I thought my father

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<v Speaker 1>would buy a house with an easement like that, where

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<v Speaker 1>you thought, you know, it's unlikely that that would happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it isn't unlikely. It seems unlikely. It seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it would be hugely expensive to widen Mulholland. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the event that they did decide to do that, I

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<v Speaker 1>would just have to let that happen. Totally devalues the

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<v Speaker 1>property and the privacy. So I have no house again.

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<v Speaker 1>So I feel like a nomad right now. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>very like anchor rudderless, you know, without a house. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also I don't want to commit to Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 1>I have this I don't know. I'm going through something.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully it's early menopause. And in other exciting news last

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<v Speaker 1>week's episode where we talked about Pandemic of Love, my

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<v Speaker 1>friend who runs Pandemic of Love. You can follow her

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<v Speaker 1>at Mindful Skater Girl on Instagram. Her name is Shelly

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<v Speaker 1>to Gilski, who I will have as a guest when

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<v Speaker 1>we return for season two. For sure, we had over

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand listeners call in to become donors at Pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>of Love, so a thousand of you got eyes heard

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<v Speaker 1>that and then decided to go help a stranger in

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<v Speaker 1>the name of mutual aid. So I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>say thank you to everybody who did that and for

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are struggling right now and receiving mutual

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<v Speaker 1>aid from strangers and people who are kind enough to

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<v Speaker 1>help you. You will be in a position in the

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<v Speaker 1>future where you will be able to do the same

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<v Speaker 1>for others. So it's the gift of giving, and it

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<v Speaker 1>continues and it's a beautiful thing. And I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>for you guys all to meet Shelley because she's just

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<v Speaker 1>a great friend and she's just started this incredible organization

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<v Speaker 1>and everyone who hits me up on Instagram that I

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<v Speaker 1>turn over to her, she has helped pay their bills.

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<v Speaker 1>They vet everybody to make sure that they are paying

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<v Speaker 1>the bills directly, and they're helping people in their times

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<v Speaker 1>of need. So this is important and it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>reminder about humanity. And then not everybody's a fucking asshole. Okay, Okay, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we do now, Brandon? Okay, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>pasting future. So these are questions people have about past

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<v Speaker 1>issues or upcome events. So one of them is a

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<v Speaker 1>question about a new job. Someone who is cautious about

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<v Speaker 1>releasing his memoir, someone who can stop thinking about her

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<v Speaker 1>childhood crush. So we cover a lot of bases today

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<v Speaker 1>and our first submission comes from Ashley. We actually have

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<v Speaker 1>a little voice note from her. She's twenty nine out

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<v Speaker 1>of Houston. She's a teacher, so let's play her voice memo.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi there. I'm Ashley, a twenty nine year old teacher

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<v Speaker 1>in Houston, and I'm having a hard time deciding if

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<v Speaker 1>I should stay at the school i'm at or move on,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even try a new city. I'd give the school

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<v Speaker 1>I work out five out of ten. Leadership is awful. However,

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<v Speaker 1>my partner teacher is my best friend and I love

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<v Speaker 1>working with her. The thought of leaving what I know

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<v Speaker 1>for something different gives me major anxiety, and I tend

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<v Speaker 1>to shut down. There's a part of me that would

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<v Speaker 1>love to live in a different city and move on.

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<v Speaker 1>But what if I move and it's a worse situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I just be thankful for the good I have

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<v Speaker 1>and leave it alone? Thank you? I would say that

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<v Speaker 1>if you have severe anxiety that you're already worried about

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<v Speaker 1>that will be a result of moving into a situation

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<v Speaker 1>that you're not going to have a clear idea about

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time, that you might want to just

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<v Speaker 1>stay where you are. You've got a best friend, that

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<v Speaker 1>you love working with. That's a lot more than a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have. And if she's a teacher, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you are a teacher and there's poor leadership

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<v Speaker 1>where you're teaching, I would say that they need you

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<v Speaker 1>even more if you love your job and what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's a five out of a ten, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you and your friend can make that school six

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<v Speaker 1>out of a ten instead of a five out of ten. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>you have so much more influence than you even realize,

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<v Speaker 1>And so I wouldn't quit on the school because of

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<v Speaker 1>the leadership. I would use that as a reason to

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<v Speaker 1>stay at the school because of the board leadership. What

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<v Speaker 1>do you think, sweetheart? I agree. I think that if

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<v Speaker 1>you do want to leave, it's always best to have

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of game plan in place. So if there

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<v Speaker 1>is a catalyst for you moving, like you really just

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<v Speaker 1>want to live in a new city, I can understand

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<v Speaker 1>that if you have things kind of set in place,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, you've mentioned that you have a partner

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<v Speaker 1>teacher that you love working with, that you are happy

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<v Speaker 1>outside of the leadership that you're getting at the school,

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<v Speaker 1>then that should be more reason, as Chelsea said, for

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<v Speaker 1>you to invest in the school and make the change

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see. I think if you're having anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>like if you need a guarantee that you're gonna love

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<v Speaker 1>the city you're going to move to, and that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to find a new best friend and you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find with all these things. If you need that to

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<v Speaker 1>be guaranteed in order to make the move, then don't

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<v Speaker 1>make the move. Like you have to be open to

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe not working out and then maybe you go

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<v Speaker 1>to a different city. You kind of have to have

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<v Speaker 1>a different kind of attitude and a different set of anxiety, right, totally.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I think you should probably stay what is

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<v Speaker 1>her name against Ashley. I think you should stay put

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley and continue to build your community and build a

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<v Speaker 1>school that you're in and just be a fucking badass

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<v Speaker 1>example for all your students and help them be better too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that I feel like I need a protein shake.

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like that was a protein shake. Would you

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<v Speaker 1>like one of my meat six that you please don't

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<v Speaker 1>open the meat sticks inside the podcast studio. I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>eat it before it came into We have to find

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<v Speaker 1>a house where we can build where we can have

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<v Speaker 1>a room as a podcast studio because the studio we're

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<v Speaker 1>working out of. It's very sterile, and it's in the valley. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't love the valley. I don't mind the valley. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say, this is a very short jaunt

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<v Speaker 1>and it's very easy to come here, so I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind the valley. It's better than going to Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills is the worst, and it's way better than

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<v Speaker 1>when we have to drive over to Hollywood. Oh well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the worst. Hollywood is a bit it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a bit dirty. It's it's very dirty. Olive l A

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<v Speaker 1>is getting very dirty. Honestly, it's alarming. Okay, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take a break for a quick at and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back. Our next mission comes from Oh this

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<v Speaker 1>is an interesting name, truf um t r E f

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<v Speaker 1>o M. He's on the East Coast. He's a writer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, Dear Chelsea, life will be the death

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<v Speaker 1>of Me was so excellent that it moved me to

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<v Speaker 1>finally write the memoir that I have been rattling around

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<v Speaker 1>in my brain for many years. The challenges that it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty unflattering to my mother and one of my sisters.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I go ahead with it. I'm even using a pseudonym.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm still unsure. My mother has dementia, so she'll

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<v Speaker 1>likely never be offended, but my sister certainly will. She

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't spoken to me more than six years. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea why I'm guessing I'm an asshole or something. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good to self assess in that in that way,

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<v Speaker 1>he goes on to say, But but in the final analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>she sucked me over pretty good when we were kids,

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<v Speaker 1>So should I even care what she thinks about the memoir?

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<v Speaker 1>P s. I'm not just some winker who thinks I

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<v Speaker 1>can write a memoir. I'm a professional writer with more

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<v Speaker 1>than thirty years of experience. And he's on the phone. Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>Cheff Chaffam cheff M. Yeah, So Traffam's my pen name,

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<v Speaker 1>Truff Markoff. It's actually my great grandfather's name. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a Russian immigrant. Okay, I was going to say, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a name I've ever heard. So, but if you've

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<v Speaker 1>been working with the name, okay, got it? Russian? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why I haven't heard it. So why doesn't your

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<v Speaker 1>sister talk to you? Chelsea? I wish I knew, I

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<v Speaker 1>really wish I knew so about seven or so years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>She just kind of turned me off, didn't respond to emails,

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<v Speaker 1>text phone calls. I wanted to reach out, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to several times over the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>first I don't know, like two or three years, and

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<v Speaker 1>I never got a response. So eventually, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>just started feeling got chumped, and I thought, I'm done

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<v Speaker 1>with this. If she doesn't want me in her life,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done with this. But is there anything that could

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<v Speaker 1>have happened that you think might be the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>she's not speaking to you. I mean, I guess there's

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<v Speaker 1>no single incident I think that stands out in my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>She's always been very jealous of the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>have a good relationship with my in laws, and things are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, oftentimes strained with my own family of origin,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, mostly her and my mother. But a particular

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<v Speaker 1>incident I don't know, and this goes October two was

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<v Speaker 1>the last I heard from her. And do you have

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<v Speaker 1>other siblings? I do. I have a younger sister and

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<v Speaker 1>a younger brother. Relationship is good with both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother is eighty and she's dealing with pretty fair

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<v Speaker 1>amount of dementia, even though she doesn't admit that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well most people with dementia don't right anyway, So sorry

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<v Speaker 1>we topic. Okay, but wait, I'm not done with your siblings.

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<v Speaker 1>So that you are other two siblings that you do

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<v Speaker 1>have a healthy relationship with. Do they talk to your

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<v Speaker 1>sister not in a healthy way? You know, there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>things that they have to do and discuss in relation

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<v Speaker 1>to taking care of our mother. But you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like you know, me and my younger brother and

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<v Speaker 1>my younger sister, we actually get along. We have good relationships.

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<v Speaker 1>They are a few years younger. So the deal with

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<v Speaker 1>my older sister is that we're only eleven months apart.

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<v Speaker 1>We were born in the same calendar year. She in

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<v Speaker 1>January and I had December, so we were basically raised

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<v Speaker 1>together and the dynamic hasn't changed from when we were kids.

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<v Speaker 1>She is a professional judger. She judges, that's what she does.

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<v Speaker 1>And so my you know, my entire childhood growing up

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<v Speaker 1>with her was her judging everything I did, everything I said,

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<v Speaker 1>everything that meant something to me, my friends, my girlfriends,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she carried that over into our adult lives.

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<v Speaker 1>She just you know, never stopped being that person, and

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<v Speaker 1>so now the memories that I have of my childhood

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of veiled with a shroud of her judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>of like in her voice. So you know, it's had

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of a of a profound impact on me,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where now that I'm I'm writing a

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<v Speaker 1>manuscript about my younger years, what do I do with that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? Am I brutally honest about the way this

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<v Speaker 1>affected me? Or do I be the kinder person and

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<v Speaker 1>temper what I write without the brutal honesty. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was profoundly moved by Life will be the Death of Me, Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>So and that's kind of inspired me. I've been a

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<v Speaker 1>professional writer for so many years. This is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I'm actually writing something about me, and it's because

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<v Speaker 1>of your book. Oh wow, well thank you. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're describing the dynamic between you and your sister,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're describing her behavior. Can I ask you about

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<v Speaker 1>your own behavior in relation to your sister, Like, how

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<v Speaker 1>did you what's your part in that? I'm the younger one,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm eleven months younger, So when we were kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she got to experience everything before I did, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to, I guess, you know, have that to

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<v Speaker 1>look up to, but it never really worked out. And

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<v Speaker 1>then by the time we were teenagers, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in our younger twenties, I want to say, I was

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twenty or twenty one when our when our father

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<v Speaker 1>died so young, the dynamics changed even more so where

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<v Speaker 1>I was taking care of the house and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>put myself through college, and I was immediately thrust into adulthood,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was I don't think she had the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of inclination to do that. So that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>set the pace for us in terms of what we

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<v Speaker 1>were going to be like as adults. And I always

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<v Speaker 1>wanted an older sister. I have a younger sister, a

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<v Speaker 1>younger brother. I wanted a healthy family dynamic. My wife's

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<v Speaker 1>family is a good example of that. It just it's

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<v Speaker 1>an apple and an orange, though it was just never

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<v Speaker 1>the same. Yeah, yeah, but you have to really think

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<v Speaker 1>about why she acted that way. You know, people who

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<v Speaker 1>are judging are unhappy, and it's about looking outward rather

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<v Speaker 1>than looking inward, right, And you have to try to

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<v Speaker 1>remember that she's obviously coming from a very different place

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<v Speaker 1>and have as much empathy for her as possible. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a conflict because I hear what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I would always want everyone to pursue their dreams. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you writing a novel for the first time, or not

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<v Speaker 1>a novel. You're writing your own story, right, and an

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<v Speaker 1>autobiographical story, so you're writing that. But if you're writing

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<v Speaker 1>under a pen name or an alias, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to change all that. You have to change

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<v Speaker 1>all the real stuff anyway. Legally, when you're writing a

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<v Speaker 1>book like that, you have to make people unrecognizable and unidentifiable.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, you have to make your sister somebody

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<v Speaker 1>with a different name and different occupations. She lives in

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<v Speaker 1>a different city, so there are ways to shroud that.

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<v Speaker 1>But if she do, you know that she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be reading your stuff, because it sounds like she's pretty disengaged.

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<v Speaker 1>She's very disengaged. I have no idea. I look at

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<v Speaker 1>it this way, you know, with the decent relationships I

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<v Speaker 1>have with my other siblings, and if this does actually

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<v Speaker 1>come to light, you know that, you know, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a personal manuscript or something that actually gets published.

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<v Speaker 1>I find it hard to believe that it won't be

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<v Speaker 1>revealed to her. Right, No, No, you know what. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just reminded by something my friend said to me once,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like, just assume everything you do is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be heard by the people that you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's true, Like it will get back to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, again, you could write a manuscript and it

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<v Speaker 1>could be published, or you could write a manuscript and

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<v Speaker 1>it couldn't be published. So it's a lot of ifs,

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<v Speaker 1>ants and butts, right, I mean, hopefully we're we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to work under the assumption that it will be published

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<v Speaker 1>and it will be a huge success. Excellent, Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>worried about hurting her feelings? Brandon, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about that? While I think I think that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to write as authentically as possible, I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do yourself any favors by minimizing your experience

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<v Speaker 1>because obviously it's still unsettling for you today and this

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<v Speaker 1>has been ongoing for a very long time. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're both in a state of arrested development and your interactions,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that probably comes from her not getting

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<v Speaker 1>the limelight that she thought she was due as the firstborn,

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<v Speaker 1>but tailed very closely by a brother, and my siblings

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<v Speaker 1>and I are all thirteen months apart, so I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of understand that dynamic where everyone was fighting to some

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<v Speaker 1>degree for the attention they thought they were owed. And

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like she took that into adulthood and upon

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<v Speaker 1>the death of your father, she knew the pillar she

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to take as the l this child, but

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<v Speaker 1>forced you into that position basically because she's like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing this, like I didn't get my moment. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not responsible for this. You deal with it, and she will,

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<v Speaker 1>without doubt read the manuscript whatever it turns into. She

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<v Speaker 1>will because she's narcissistic to some degree that again, she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get that moment, Like now you're writing about her,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's really gonna like tickle her fancy in a way,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you know it's not flattering. But again, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's why you have to write it authentically, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are appropriate and respectful ways to go about that

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<v Speaker 1>with her. You can send her a version of it

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<v Speaker 1>before it's released, before you do anything with and say

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<v Speaker 1>these this is my reference to our childhood. These are

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<v Speaker 1>my memories. I understand they may not align perfectly with

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<v Speaker 1>your experiences, but I do want you to have this.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to be aware. If you'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>discuss anything before it goes out, I'm happy to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Like there are ways to that's a nice way of

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<v Speaker 1>going about it. Yeah, they're I think they're just respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that you have to operate in your best interest

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and in the best way. How you would

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<v Speaker 1>want someone to do that for you? And I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you do those things to spite someone else. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you care for your sister. You know that's it's biological.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't not care for your siblings. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you have to prioritize how she's going to

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<v Speaker 1>feel to tell your story. Yeah, so, like I agree

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<v Speaker 1>with that. I want this to be authentic. I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest. These are you know, even though the

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<v Speaker 1>names have been changed, or real stories. These are my

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<v Speaker 1>real stories. And so you know, if I go in

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<v Speaker 1>there and and I write dishonestly by omission, then you

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<v Speaker 1>know it's not my story anymore. That's true, And you

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<v Speaker 1>do have every right to tell your story. And I

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<v Speaker 1>mean listen, just by the very fact that you're contemplating

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<v Speaker 1>it means that you're conscientious about it, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>good sign, which means you're not an narcissist or an asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you might be an asshole and a narcissist,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, these questions aren't down that line. So

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<v Speaker 1>again it's like you're writing under a pseudonym like I

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<v Speaker 1>think that allows a lot of room for people to

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<v Speaker 1>get over of themselves. But again, I think Brandon's advice

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<v Speaker 1>is spot on for this. I think providing her with

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<v Speaker 1>the materials beforehand so she doesn't have one more thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say she was blindsided, you know, so she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have any more ammunition against it. Be sensitive to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that it is your sister that she is struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably stole her thunder in a big way that

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<v Speaker 1>you have no idea about the mere presence of you

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<v Speaker 1>being born probably disrupted her entire flow right her, She

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<v Speaker 1>is off. So I would say that, yeah, that that's

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<v Speaker 1>all you can do because you can't prevent You can't

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<v Speaker 1>let somebody else's feelings prevent you from telling your truth. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't think I ever didn't believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just needed, you know, to hear somebody

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<v Speaker 1>say it. Yeah, Well great, I mean, problem solved sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like good luck with your manuscript. Well, thank you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad I didn't have to exit that zoom the

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<v Speaker 1>interworking of sibling relationships, because you know, I've written so

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<v Speaker 1>many books where I've exposed my siblings behavior are stunt,

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<v Speaker 1>stand up and talked about my family in ways that

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<v Speaker 1>has hurt them, and I've gotten in trouble and I've

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<v Speaker 1>hurt my sister's feelings a lot, or my brothers, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some of them are so insensitive that they

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<v Speaker 1>don't care and they're just like whatever. But I was

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<v Speaker 1>very insensitive not to run it past them because I

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<v Speaker 1>just think you're part of my family, like you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta suck it up, Like this is my story.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to tell it. You know. Of course I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to tell a joke about it and stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>But I learned that that's not the right way to

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<v Speaker 1>go about it. So I think presenting the people with

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<v Speaker 1>the material is really the most upright thing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that that reframes your stand up material

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<v Speaker 1>as well, So not just in in the books, but

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<v Speaker 1>when you're going to make a reference to somebody, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you've really been thoughtful about how to tell a

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<v Speaker 1>joke without making someone feel bad or bringing someone down.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that that affects how you present your comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think it affects your comedy being any less

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<v Speaker 1>funny in a way? Well, I mean there's always an

0:22:02.359 --> 0:22:05.440
<v Speaker 1>asshole to make fun of it, right, There's no shortage

0:22:05.440 --> 0:22:08.680
<v Speaker 1>of assholes luckily. But yeah, I mean it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good challenge to not be able to make

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<v Speaker 1>cheap jokes. That's a good challenge for anybody. Which is

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge I welcome. I like to be challenged. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes people work harder. I like to be given a

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<v Speaker 1>little structure because I'm so a structure list and so

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<v Speaker 1>chaotic that I like when somebody says, Okay, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the world you're going to live in. Now build a

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<v Speaker 1>house Like, okay, great, I like this. I like this challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>So but yeah, I have jokes that I've written that

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<v Speaker 1>are about you know, I'm like, this is a bit

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<v Speaker 1>that works. Is am I going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>tell this on a special like it's about a member

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<v Speaker 1>of my family or it's you know, like it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>always get back to that. There's never any way around

0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:46.719
<v Speaker 1>that for me. So, and what is your kind of

0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:48.920
<v Speaker 1>spectrum now or I don't know how we would look

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:51.440
<v Speaker 1>at this, but when you are writing a joke and

0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you think it's funny, but it might be on the

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<v Speaker 1>threshold of like crossing a line, whether it be about

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<v Speaker 1>a family member or just something socially or you know, well,

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<v Speaker 1>like I want to tell I want to do this

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<v Speaker 1>bit about, you know, just white male privilege and how

0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>even young people, you know, the guys that think their

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:13.640
<v Speaker 1>woke and progressive, are aren't, you know, And and how

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.719
<v Speaker 1>my nephew is woke and a liberal and very progressive,

0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:21.240
<v Speaker 1>but he's still is just basking in white male privilege,

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>basking in it, basking and it man splaining ship to

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<v Speaker 1>me left and right, all of us, and it's like,

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:30.679
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. You know, like I remember when they

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:33.439
<v Speaker 1>stayed with me during the quarantine. I'd walk downstairs and

0:23:33.480 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 1>he's just splayed out on my couch, you know, in

0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:41.680
<v Speaker 1>shorts with his legs open, and I'm like, meanwhile, the girls,

0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:44.520
<v Speaker 1>of which there were four of us, we're all we

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:47.720
<v Speaker 1>have our air pods in because we're sharing a house together.

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Nobody's sitting on the sofa spread Eagal and I want

0:23:51.600 --> 0:23:53.440
<v Speaker 1>to talk about that, you know, I want to talk

0:23:53.480 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>about how it's so inured into men's nature to take

0:23:56.400 --> 0:23:59.360
<v Speaker 1>up more space and to have less regard for others.

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 1>But I know my sister is gonna get pissed at

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.680
<v Speaker 1>me and she'll be like, can you not do that bit?

0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Or maybe my nephew needs to hear me do that bit?

0:24:07.920 --> 0:24:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you should maybe should do the bit for him

0:24:09.640 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 1>and get his response. This is a great way to

0:24:11.720 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>test and see if my sister Simone is listening to

0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the podcast, because she's not, she'll be in touch. She

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 1>can write in Actually, yeah, Simone, if you're listening, if

0:24:19.720 --> 0:24:21.680
<v Speaker 1>you have any questions, you can write it. No. I mean,

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>these are all things which obviously said to him to

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.720
<v Speaker 1>my nephew. But it's a thing now. It's like once

0:24:26.800 --> 0:24:31.399
<v Speaker 1>you have the term to identify it, it's everywhere. Like

0:24:31.520 --> 0:24:34.120
<v Speaker 1>once you realize, oh, white male privilege is a thing,

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like all you see is that, and so it

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>becomes kind of like again, that is a little bit

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>more thoughtful, even implied in comedy than some of these

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 1>easier targets. Like there was a radio show host. I

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you saw this, but a radio show

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.639
<v Speaker 1>host I guess of a very popular show who walked

0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:51.880
<v Speaker 1>off quit his show because he could not make fun

0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of Demilovado changing their pronouns today them was his name

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Piers Morgan, because that sounds like fucking what peers I

0:24:59.760 --> 0:25:02.960
<v Speaker 1>love walking off the show. Only a white man would

0:25:02.960 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 1>walk off a show. Do you think a person of

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:07.640
<v Speaker 1>color would storm out of a show? Do you think

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:10.520
<v Speaker 1>a woman would get up and storm out of a show?

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Only a fucking white man? Yeah, because they know that

0:25:14.160 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>there's going to be another opportunity person's straight white man,

0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:20.880
<v Speaker 1>where that's not the case with a person of color

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>or a woman, because they don't know if that opportunity

0:25:22.880 --> 0:25:24.919
<v Speaker 1>is going to come back. But I just thought that

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:28.800
<v Speaker 1>was interesting because it was so obvious. It's so easy

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 1>to make fun of some of these changes that we're seeing,

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.159
<v Speaker 1>because for a lot of us it's jarring. I mean

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:36.680
<v Speaker 1>even for me as a gay person, it's a little overwhelming.

0:25:36.760 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I actually this is a good opportunity to talk about

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.120
<v Speaker 1>because I was talking to my friend last night and

0:25:41.359 --> 0:25:45.080
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about, you know, non binary and changing

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>the pronouns, and so there's a pronoun where you can

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>be she or her and then you can choose to

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>be she and they. So what's the distinction there? Can

0:25:56.359 --> 0:25:58.479
<v Speaker 1>you break that down? Okay? So one of my friends

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>in his instagram by because now on Instagram you can

0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>program your pronouns, and his is he they and His

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>rationale for that was, he identifies as a man, but

0:26:12.000 --> 0:26:15.439
<v Speaker 1>any person can also be identified plurally. We already do

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.640
<v Speaker 1>it to some degree. They ran for a drink whatever.

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 1>So he thought that it was more inclusive to also

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:27.080
<v Speaker 1>be able to be applied plurally than just as a singular.

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:31.399
<v Speaker 1>It's not it's not a representation of how there's a

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:35.400
<v Speaker 1>sexual identity evolved in that. It's just he they, So

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>she and her and then she and they is just

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:41.480
<v Speaker 1>that's just it. They want to just it's more inclusive.

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 1>I think, So then why don't we just do that

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:45.760
<v Speaker 1>for everything? I'm sure that's not the case for everyone.

0:26:45.880 --> 0:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>This is going to be a learning process. Everyone has

0:26:49.280 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 1>a learning curve with this. Right now. My partner works

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>in LGBT media. There are daily changes in the representation

0:26:55.880 --> 0:26:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and the pronouns. There are things that are basically just

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.120
<v Speaker 1>sounds like zees er. Those are pronouns. You don't see

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>them used, but that's a thing what is z Those

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>are two pronouns, so there's there's just a plethora. I

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.200
<v Speaker 1>think that's like all encompassing that there's and again, all

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 1>we can do is learn and accept it and just

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:17.520
<v Speaker 1>get it right. Well, let's see if we get this

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>next advice right. This is from Sonny thirty four, Seattle.

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 1>It's an alias, I'm sure, but we'll talk to Sonny.

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Why do you say that because it's in quotes. Yeah, well, yeah,

0:27:28.440 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>then I would say it is an alias. She's a

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.959
<v Speaker 1>store manager for a luxury brand. She writes, Dear Chelsea,

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>I enjoy the company I work for, and I also

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 1>have a really tough boss. I know that if I

0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.439
<v Speaker 1>can stick it out, there will be good opportunities on

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the other side. But this lady is killing me. She

0:27:42.920 --> 0:27:45.560
<v Speaker 1>wants a business robot who doesn't have feelings or emotions.

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I've been that bitch before, and that is not who

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to be anymore. I'm stressed and exhausted all

0:27:50.520 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the time from trying to be myself and being bullied

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>back into the box of who someone else thinks I

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 1>should be. I've been at this company for seven years

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want to start over. What the fun

0:28:00.320 --> 0:28:07.160
<v Speaker 1>do I do. Hi Sonny, Hello, Hi, Hi Brandon, Hi.

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>How are you. I'm doing well. How are you all doing?

0:28:10.400 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>We're doing well too, Thank you. So tell us about

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.440
<v Speaker 1>this woman that you work for. What's her story, what's

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:20.919
<v Speaker 1>the problem, what's the dynamic. Yeah, the dynamic is interesting.

0:28:21.200 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I have worked with this woman for about three years

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>and only reported directly to her for the last six

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 1>months or so. And she's definitely a little bit on

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the older side. She's been in the industry for a

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>really long time. She's very well respected in the company,

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:42.200
<v Speaker 1>but she has a lot of those just older tendencies, right.

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>She gets really uncomfortable when people are emotional. She gets

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>really uncomfortable anytime people start talking about money or personal problems.

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:55.640
<v Speaker 1>So it's, you know, she's not really with the times

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to what people are currently kind of

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>going through in the world. And even and I think of,

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:03.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, being a woman in the workplace and wanting

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 1>to talk about some of those problems, talking about, you know,

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 1>how do you make more money, how do you make

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>network connections. She's really just cuts you off and puts

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:14.239
<v Speaker 1>you at a distance, and it's really uncomfortable with all

0:29:14.280 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of that. She loves a woman who is very business oriented,

0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, like put on your blazer, put on your

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 1>red lipstick, and let's get to work. And I just

0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 1>can't do that anymore. I've been that person. It's really unfulfilling,

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know what to do. Well, first, I mean,

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>you say you love working there. This woman seems like

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>she's not with the times. But I would argue that

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you cannot let one person control your disposition or mood.

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Right You're giving her way too much power. She's only

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>your boss right now. You're only reporting to her right now.

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.880
<v Speaker 1>So like, there are workarounds that you can do to

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.400
<v Speaker 1>tolerate this woman and kind of get what you need

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.400
<v Speaker 1>and give her what she expects. And you have to

0:29:56.440 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 1>look at this situation as temporary and all of the

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>other pos of things around it. Like you've been there

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>for seven years, you love the work, you just don't

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>like her personality. That's no reason to leave a job. Yeah,

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 1>for sure, I know that you're right. I also I

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like how long I can continue to be

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>under the emotional duress, you know, without having more an outlet.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I guess, So, how do you feel the emotional dress?

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm a I lead other people, so leading

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>other employees to being a manager, you're kind of like

0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 1>at that critical friction point of you know, I need

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 1>you guys to take care of the customers. I need

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 1>you to do these things, and I also am here

0:30:36.400 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to take care of you. Right, I'm their leader. I'm

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:43.840
<v Speaker 1>their boss. And anytime there's something that we need to

0:30:43.840 --> 0:30:45.800
<v Speaker 1>work through as a team or a problem, and I

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>want to work through it with my leader, you can't

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>bring that emotion into it. It has to be one

0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>about the business and when you're working with people, when

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>your whole job is to take care of people, to

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:01.560
<v Speaker 1>not have that same mentality for your self. That's what

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I find. Really it's grinding where it's like I'm giving

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot for my team and I I would hope

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>that I would have someone who is doing the same

0:31:10.280 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>thing for me. And it's hard to just pretend like

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:17.400
<v Speaker 1>everything is fine all the time. Okay, well, but you

0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:19.800
<v Speaker 1>seem to be going to an empty well for water, right,

0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 1>you seem to need emotional support, yet you're going to

0:31:22.200 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody who's not equipped to give it to you. Yeah,

0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>you're definitely right. So can you get that emotional support elsewhere? Like,

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>can you go to a therapist and get an emotional support?

0:31:31.880 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Are you in a position where you can afford to

0:31:33.480 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>go to therapy? I can afford to go to therapy. Yes,

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 1>that is definitely something that I am actively doing and

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 1>will continue to do. So you're in therapy, yes, I have, Well,

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>I see a stress coach. So I'm seeing a coach,

0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>which is helpful, helpful to have tools and some active resources,

0:31:53.680 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't really alleviate the fact that you're being

0:31:56.040 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 1>stifled emotionally at work for sure. Yeah, ups at home, right,

0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>it helps when I leave work and walk away from it.

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts about her, like who's senior to her?

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Like is there a scenario that you would have a

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 1>conversation with someone that's supervising her about this dynamic? Definitely,

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:18.880
<v Speaker 1>and that has happened. So I did have a skip

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>level with him earlier this year, and he said, on

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 1>one hand, I know there's a place for you in

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>this company. I know that there's a place for people

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 1>who want to come to work and be wholehearted and

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>take good care of the employees and take care of customers.

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>And you have to understand that she is the way

0:32:37.320 --> 0:32:40.920
<v Speaker 1>that she is, and so it's now like this culture

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.840
<v Speaker 1>that this is her behavior. I'm not the only person

0:32:43.840 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 1>who experiences it, and so I have to deal with it,

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's like you have to suck it up, right, Well,

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I would say the same thing. I think you're need.

0:32:52.920 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 1>You're going to need to get that emotional support that

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you're looking for from someone else, and whether that's a

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:01.400
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend or whether that's like a partner or a relative,

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:05.600
<v Speaker 1>a sister, brother, or a therapist. I think you do

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.480
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of accept people for who they are

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>and stop expecting them to fulfill Even though we're living

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 1>at a different time and times are changing, people are

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:15.520
<v Speaker 1>not fucking caught up. They do not get the message,

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>and people are stuck in their ways. And you can

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:20.520
<v Speaker 1>have empathy for her and sympathy for her, you don't

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 1>have to act on that. You don't have to show

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>up for her in any of those ways. You just

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>have to take care of yourself and you cannot look

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>for her to do it. So I really would suggest

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>that you find that kind of outlet for yourself, because

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:34.080
<v Speaker 1>you're taking care of yourself in a way that's going

0:33:34.120 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 1>to make you understand that she is just a pawn.

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>In this game of life. And if she's not worth

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you leaving a company over where you enjoy your position,

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 1>she will be gone at some point and hopefully you

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>will remain there and you will be in a different position,

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>or you'll be in her position. I mean, yeah, that

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>would be the dream. Yeah, So I think, imagine leaving

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>because of her. I mean, what does that say she

0:33:57.840 --> 0:34:00.560
<v Speaker 1>has that much power over you? Well, I also think

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 1>what it would do for like the next person who

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>has to report to her or the rest of the

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 1>people on my team. It's like, at least now they

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>have me and they can report to me, and I

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>care about them and I take the time for them.

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 1>And it's like if they had to report directly to her,

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>would just be turned into burning. So I think, yeah,

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 1>very good, Yeah, good to be that person put the

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.959
<v Speaker 1>people on my team. And no, you're totally right, it's

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:24.759
<v Speaker 1>totally temporary. Yeah, she's not gonna be around forever. And

0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you know you're not gonna be at this job forever.

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 1>But as while you like it and while you enjoy it,

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>you need to like look at her as a like

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:33.880
<v Speaker 1>a project in your mind, and you are going to

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 1>handle her the way she handles you, you know what

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a special case that needs kid gloves.

0:34:40.680 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>And this is the personality I put on when I

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 1>have to report to her because I'm going to play

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>her game better than she's going to play it. And

0:34:47.160 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, she's not even playing a game. She's just

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>being you know, older and not with the time. So

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:53.680
<v Speaker 1>I think that, yes, I think that's what you should do.

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:56.240
<v Speaker 1>You should really just get ahead of this. You're letting

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 1>her control you and you can control the situation. Yeah,

0:34:59.520 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Yeah, you're right. Thank you. Any other advice

0:35:03.239 --> 0:35:06.200
<v Speaker 1>for a woman in the working world and carving out

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:10.399
<v Speaker 1>their own path, that's something that you excel at. Chelsea. Oh,

0:35:10.440 --> 0:35:12.319
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were talking to Brandon. I am a

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>woman in the working world. Listen, I understand. I've been

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>in charge of people who wanted to emotional support for me,

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:21.319
<v Speaker 1>Like I've had people work for me and I didn't

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>have the bandwidth. You know. I try to be there

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:25.600
<v Speaker 1>for as many people as I can, but I can

0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:28.080
<v Speaker 1>also relate to her and having to deal with so

0:35:28.120 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 1>many changes and having so many people come to you

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>and and not being equipped to, you know, have people

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>emotionally lean on you. So I can kind of see that,

0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>But I would just say to be the example that

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you want to see. You know you want to It's

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.399
<v Speaker 1>like being the change you want to see. You can

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:46.600
<v Speaker 1>only model what you want to portray. And the best

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>version of yourself is is not to look at certain

0:35:49.920 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 1>people like, oh, they don't get it, they don't understand me.

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like every personality is handled in a little bit

0:35:55.040 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>of a different way. You have to handle people a

0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.319
<v Speaker 1>little bit differently, and that's a fun challenge if you

0:36:00.320 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 1>look at it like that, you know, because then you

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 1>can get to her in different ways, and who knows

0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 1>what kind of relationship you can create when you stop

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>resisting the fact that she's not on the same page

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>as you and look for other commonalities between the two

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of you. Yeah, and model the change. I love that

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>you said that. It's like, who knows what's going to

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.839
<v Speaker 1>happen if I can do me and be myself and

0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like work around her instead, right, Like, and you can

0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.439
<v Speaker 1>do that, You can totally do that. My friend isn't

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.640
<v Speaker 1>a job where she has a bunch of people reporting

0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to her, and she has one woman that reports to

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>her that complained about her, and she was like, oh

0:36:34.960 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 1>my god, you don't understand how much time and how

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 1>much effort I've spent with this girl, and I've sat

0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.359
<v Speaker 1>with her and she's failed to complain about me, and

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, there's like so much there's like

0:36:46.480 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 1>this huge chasm between them now because they're just both

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.680
<v Speaker 1>not on the same page at all. So, I mean,

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not uncommon. It's happening all over. It's just like,

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.040
<v Speaker 1>aren't you smart enough to figure out a way around that?

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I think so? I think you're right. Yeah, all right,

0:36:59.800 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>Well problem solves, Sonny. There you go, good luck, Thank

0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>you so much, Bye, Sonny, thanks for calling. Appreciate the time.

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>By Chelsea by Brandon, Bye bye bye. Oh god, must

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>working retail? I do not, Oh god, that would just

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:22.479
<v Speaker 1>be that must be so catty. Although women are learning

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>to be kinder and gentler to each other, people just

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>need to learn to be kinder and gentler. Well, women,

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>women have been pitted against each other, and you know

0:37:31.000 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 1>they're they're pitted against each other because of of our culture.

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>And women need to know like we're all on the

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>same team, Like you've got to look out for other

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>women always, always, always. Yeah, that is something else I

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 1>was thinking about the other day was how these younger

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 1>stars show up for each other in a way that

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>like Whitney Houston and Mariah Kerry did not. This is

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 1>a very gay reference, but there's like they now see

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>through all of that bullshit, all of the background noise, like, well,

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:58.360
<v Speaker 1>there can only be one of you. That's not true. Obviously,

0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.120
<v Speaker 1>it's been proven time and time and end. So all

0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:03.440
<v Speaker 1>these women like Taylor Swift and Katy Perry realized like,

0:38:03.440 --> 0:38:05.360
<v Speaker 1>oh what, we don't need to have the sort of

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>dynamic like we can support each other even if we

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 1>aren't best friends. But that's that's not the narrative we

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:12.480
<v Speaker 1>need created for us. How are these girls supporting each

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>other more? Now? They just show up, They're doing music

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.239
<v Speaker 1>videos together, you know, there's they're coming out for each

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 1>other's projects, and there was I saw something recently that

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 1>it was Maria Kerry had Jennifer Hudson and Ariana Grande

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 1>on one of her Christmas songs, which was a huge deal,

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Like she's never done this before, She's never had someone

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>of Ariana's caliber singing with her, and just for so long,

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:35.279
<v Speaker 1>like you're saying, women were positioned like you are the

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>only one. You are the best. You can't allow anyone

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>else to come in. And you know she had to

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 1>get with the times to and be like, oh, I

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 1>can't operate that way. Like we need to be supporting

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 1>each other, we need to be leveraging one another. So

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>that is nice to see that women are stepping out

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, that's the way it should be what men

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>want them to do. Okay, So speaking of what men

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>would like us to do, let's take a break in

0:38:59.320 --> 0:39:01.759
<v Speaker 1>terms of you know, the memoir writing and offending your

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:04.359
<v Speaker 1>family member. I mean, I'm already doing that again, you know,

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>as I mentioned earlier, I'm doing it in stand up.

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about living with my nephew. I told him

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>when I saw him on Nantucket, like, hey, you're in

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 1>my set. He's like okay, So you know, I'm not

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the best person to give advice on that topic, which

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I would like to reiterate, Brandon. Our last mission comes

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>from I think Laura. Yeah, good to Laura, she writes

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>your Chelsea. When I was born, my mom was a

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>nanny for an old, rich family that owned a large

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 1>estate which we lived on every day or most days.

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>My mom looked after two boys and me until we

0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>moved away. When I was eleven and didn't keep in touch.

0:39:39.239 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 1>Fast forward, I'm now forty nine. I started dreaming about

0:39:41.800 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 1>the youngest boy who I was besotted. What does that

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:49.759
<v Speaker 1>word besotted means? To have a to be taken by

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:54.080
<v Speaker 1>somebody like a crush. Okay, I'm gonna incorporate. I was

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 1>besotted seven or eight years ago. I started daydreaming about

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>meeting him, and then one day his dad died and

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 1>my mom went to his funeral. We went in for

0:40:03.719 --> 0:40:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a quick coug He gave me eye contact in a

0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:07.719
<v Speaker 1>nervous way, and we hardly spoke. I cried all the

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>way home. My mom was really concerned, and then I

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.919
<v Speaker 1>went into an emotional depression for weeks. I know he's

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>married with three children. His wife looks a bit like me,

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.959
<v Speaker 1>so that made me smile. Let me just keep going.

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I emailed him once, but he never spent responded. My

0:40:22.280 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>mom died a few weeks ago and my mom called

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:29.720
<v Speaker 1>him and he never replied. But from the other side

0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:33.080
<v Speaker 1>read Laurelan Jackson's book, You'll know but his brother always

0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.239
<v Speaker 1>keeps in contact. I have the opportunity to go to

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.279
<v Speaker 1>my mom's celebration party in this summer, but I don't

0:40:37.320 --> 0:40:39.320
<v Speaker 1>feel like I can put myself through the rejection again.

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is I have a really immediate

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:44.439
<v Speaker 1>response for her. My question is do I forget about

0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:45.799
<v Speaker 1>him and leave him the past, or do I go

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:47.680
<v Speaker 1>to the party and trying to rekindle some sort of

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>relationship even though I feel deep down that he doesn't

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>want to go there. I've attached an old photo of

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:58.600
<v Speaker 1>me and him. I'm looking forward to hearing your advice. Hi, Laura,

0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 1>you need to move the on. He's married over. It's over.

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 1>He's married right now. For he's married. For as long

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 1>as he's married, there's no chance of a reconciliation, or

0:41:10.719 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 1>there's no reconciliation because there never was anything to begin with.

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>So I want to just say, like, you sound slightly delusional,

0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and you really are letting a man who isn't seemingly

0:41:23.840 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>interested in you have way too much control over you,

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Like you're stronger than that, and you can find somebody

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>else and not focus all of your attention on a

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>childhood crush, because that's all it was. You had a

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 1>childhood crush. We've all had them, and then we grow

0:41:39.680 --> 0:41:43.920
<v Speaker 1>up and they're over, and yours is over. So you

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:47.080
<v Speaker 1>have to listen to the fact that this is not

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.919
<v Speaker 1>not healthy. Not healthy, honey, sorry to call you honey.

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be patronizing or condescending. I want

0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to be loving, like you're better than this.

0:41:56.719 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>This is not who you are or who you want

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to be. This is just something old that you kind

0:42:02.239 --> 0:42:04.200
<v Speaker 1>of need to I think it will be a great

0:42:04.600 --> 0:42:07.480
<v Speaker 1>sense of closure. Yes, you need to go to his

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>mother's memorial celebration and comport yourself or her celebration and

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.239
<v Speaker 1>however you guys are calling it, so yeah, does she

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 1>need to go to that? No, she doesn't. He should

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>just be making herself present and putting herself through something. Okay, So, Laura,

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>if you can't handle going to his mother's memorial celebration

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and going through that and acting like an adult and

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 1>actually making a new impression, because I think there's a

0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.680
<v Speaker 1>vibe that you people understand you've had a crush on him,

0:42:33.920 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and I think he probably understands that you've had a

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 1>crush on him, And so I wouldn't set yourself up

0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 1>for that unless you're going to put yourself in a

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 1>situation where you can go there with your head held high.

0:42:43.440 --> 0:42:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And act in a dignified way and accept that he's

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>married and that you're not in a relationship with him,

0:42:48.560 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>and then pay your respects to his dead mother. Well, honestly, Laura,

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>don't go to that. You shouldn't go to that. If

0:42:54.200 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>you want, if you want to send your condolences, send

0:42:56.560 --> 0:42:59.280
<v Speaker 1>a nice arrangement or a note like making yourself present.

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be the stracting and it's just going

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to be like a cry for attention. So don't do it. Yeah, Laura,

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you're better than this. This is a childhood crush and

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>those expire for a reason, just like high school ends

0:43:09.239 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>for a fucking reason, So did childhood crushes. And also,

0:43:13.360 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 1>can we please stop trying to hit on someone at

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>a funeral, a parents funeral especially, well really any funeral.

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, why are people thinking that that's an opportunity

0:43:22.600 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 1>to hook up. I remember when my mom died, I

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:31.120
<v Speaker 1>walked into my parents bathroom and I was looking through

0:43:31.160 --> 0:43:33.399
<v Speaker 1>my mom's medication to see if I wanted any of it.

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 1>I was going to my mom's funeral, and I already

0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>thought that was kind of gross that I was doing that.

0:43:39.600 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>But when I got there, my brother Roy was already

0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 1>in the medicine cabinet doing exactly what I was going

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:47.080
<v Speaker 1>to do, and I was like, what did you find?

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>And he had found like a bunch of stuff, and

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.680
<v Speaker 1>he's like, norko, da da dada this anyway, So I

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>then prescribed, obviously after that what my brother was going

0:43:55.080 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>to take in what I was going to take, and

0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:58.480
<v Speaker 1>then told him to get out so that I could

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:01.840
<v Speaker 1>take my Norco and peace for my mother's funeral. But

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was inappropriate even then, while I was

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 1>in the situation, I knew that my behavior was inappropriate,

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 1>but you know, it was a funeral. I'm allowed to

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:11.919
<v Speaker 1>do whatever I want to do, really when my mother dies,

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 1>and this seems much more inappropriate. Hitting on someone at

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 1>a funeral is such a bad move if you think

0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 1>it's okay to do that, because it's not. It's disrespectful

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:30.080
<v Speaker 1>to the people that have lost someone. Even if it

0:44:30.120 --> 0:44:32.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't the right time and someone was at a funeral

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>and somebody kind of mad. Even if I thought, oh,

0:44:34.360 --> 0:44:36.759
<v Speaker 1>that he's cute, but not now, if he did that,

0:44:36.800 --> 0:44:39.479
<v Speaker 1>he would no longer be cute. Like what's cute about

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>a man is a man who knows that that's inappropriate.

0:44:43.680 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I hate having to explain this ship all the time,

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then I come out like I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy that I hate. Man, It's like, no, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to help you. If you would listen. Problem solved, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>get a new problem actually, and I mean poor thing

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<v Speaker 1>people struggling with child I mean, here's let me see

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<v Speaker 1>this picture she sent. She said love to Burton Bernie.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone who's writing to Burton Bernice, Just so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Burt is with a b E r T, and then

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<v Speaker 1>Bernie is b E r N. I c e this

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys are also a boer and three years

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<v Speaker 1>old in this picture. Who knows like they're not? This

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<v Speaker 1>is a childhood photo. Okay, I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>say to her. I think we've said it all. Move on, Laura, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's also move on. Well we are that

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<v Speaker 1>was the last submission for the day. Okay, well then

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on to Margarita's were wrapped up. You've worked

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<v Speaker 1>to you? Oh yeah, that's right. Okay, thanks for listening,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. We'll be back next week. Good bye. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I am on tour. My tickets are officially on sale.

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<v Speaker 1>We've added a couple of extra shows. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>a ticket Master and tickets are available and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>then keep them to yourself. Please. If you want any

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<v Speaker 1>can write into Dear Chelsea Project at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Dear Chelsea Project at gmail dot com.