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Speaker 1: bo Bishop and Nathan Ziguras.

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Speaker 2: Live on a Thursday edition to Cleveland Browns Daily. I

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Speaker 2: am merely bo Gebe is here, the g man is here.

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Speaker 2: ACU Weather wins. They win. I did remember, oh I do?

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Speaker 2: It was sixty degrees. You guys said it's going to

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Speaker 2: be seventy Thursday. No rain, I said, no, no, ACU

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Speaker 2: Weather's showing me sixty and eighty five percent chance of rain.

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Speaker 2: Then yesterday we did the check in and you guys

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Speaker 2: had come down to the sixty on the temp, which

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Speaker 2: is where we're at, and your PIP precipitation up to

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Speaker 2: thirty something thirty five. I think yes, acci Weather went

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Speaker 2: from eighty five to sixty. Well, I can tell you

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Speaker 3: It's raining.

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Speaker 2: It's raining, it's raining.

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Speaker 3: It is gross, it is disgusting. I'm tired of this.

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Speaker 2: Tomorrow is going to be the same, except without the rain.

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Speaker 2: I have fifty seven tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there could be some frost in low lying areas tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's thirty nine degrees to come on. It's Mother's Day.

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Speaker 2: Let's Mother's Day.

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Speaker 3: Please get together.

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Speaker 2: Be done already, Gibe. We got to be done with

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Speaker 2: it at some point.

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Speaker 3: April showers bring May flowers, not more rain.

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Speaker 2: So I was thinking about something. Yeah, yesterday we had

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Speaker 2: if you could watch We had somebody write into us

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Speaker 2: about if you could relive any television series from the

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Speaker 2: beginning having not previously seen it, and Z went Game

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Speaker 2: of Thrones and I went Sopranos on that, and then

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Speaker 2: I think he added curb as well on that. What

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Speaker 2: if you did it from the sports perspective, if you

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Speaker 2: could relive a sporting event or season with no knowledge

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Speaker 2: of how it was going to end up, but knowing

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Speaker 2: that was going to end up in pure joy for you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's tough to beat sixteen From the Cavs perspective.

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Speaker 3: Are we talking one game?

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Speaker 2: I think you could do it season, or you could

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Speaker 2: do it a game, or you could do it a playoff. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: that's the only one around here that manifests in a

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Speaker 2: championship is sixteen. That's it. So that's the one that

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Speaker 2: jumps out if for me the football one would have

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Speaker 2: been twenty fourteen Ohio State because once Braxton Miller goes down,

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Speaker 2: there was no expectation on that team. They fell to

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Speaker 2: twenty second in the polls. They did not reach. In fact,

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Speaker 2: they were not number They were not higher than number

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Speaker 2: four until they won the national title, so they were

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Speaker 2: in the teens all the way into November ranked. It's

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Speaker 2: a rare instance where o High State football plays with

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Speaker 2: no expectations. Two was probably like that too. They started

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Speaker 3: And each game was a nail bitter.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's like five of them, Holy Buckeye, the

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Speaker 2: Illinois game.

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Speaker 3: I was at the Olois game in Champagne, double.

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Speaker 2: Overtime, right, yes, yeah, So those are ones where they

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Speaker 2: manifest in championships for US. I'll tell you, if you

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Speaker 2: could do one caveat, it would be the twenty season,

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Speaker 2: except we could all be there. Because you think a gym,

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Speaker 2: and you think of the line. The only thing that's

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Speaker 2: missing is all of you. That season was pure joy,

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Speaker 2: pure chaos because of all the COVID stuff. Yep, but

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Speaker 2: it manifests in a playoff victory in Pittsburgh. That would

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Speaker 2: have been a fun one. That'd be a fun one

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Speaker 2: to redo without the constraints of a global pandemic.

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Speaker 3: Correct that game alone, or you could just do the

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Speaker 3: two Pittsburgh games. The final regular season game we clinched

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Speaker 3: the playoff spot at home, yeah, and then the following

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Speaker 3: week when we go on the road and win fans

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Speaker 3: in both of those places. I don't know if it

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Speaker 3: tops I don't know anything. I know. I know you

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Speaker 3: can say the sixteen championship, we'll top it, But knowing

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Speaker 3: what this city feels when it comes to football, oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just I don't know that you can. That energy

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Speaker 2: Oh I would have. That's the one that to me.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you another one that was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: And I actually saw dors this last week and made

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Speaker 2: me think of it even more that that first Bakes

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Speaker 2: it was just the whole thing was it was a

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Speaker 2: like all of that stuff was crazy. Yeah, for the

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Speaker 2: first two months it was wild That was my first.

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Speaker 3: Who was our starting tailback and Doris traded him to

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Speaker 3: basically force the coaching staff to play chubb.

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Speaker 2: Uh. It was Carlos Hyde. Yeah, former by Carlos.

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Speaker 3: He traded him on a Friday at like four o'clock.

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Speaker 3: That's like a.

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Speaker 2: Game We've had enough, tratted him from San Francisco to

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Speaker 2: San Francisco. The kid, Oh, you're not going to play

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Speaker 2: going to force the issue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And yeah, that that Baker that Thursday night game,

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Speaker 3: that that Saturday night game in Denver in December where

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Speaker 3: you know, the safety for US Michigan man peer Yeah,

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Speaker 3: poor little pepper On It comes from that. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: that night and that bus ride you know, to the

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Speaker 3: we're like, is this really happening? Like are we really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those two that I do think probably for most

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Speaker 1: Sure.

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Speaker 2: And and here's the thing too about and I think

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Speaker 2: sixteen has a lot in common with those two Ohio

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Speaker 2: just no one had done it. Yeah, and event's obviously

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Speaker 2: remember my wife crying after it went final. She was

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Speaker 2: I remember going out on the patio and fireworks all over.

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Speaker 2: was something pretty cathartic about that. And you think, you

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Speaker 2: that there's some cool ones out there, and when we

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's an't many fan bases that have waited

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would throw in just because of

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Speaker 3: my allegiance Duke un I'll be and then the Duke

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Speaker 3: Kansas like the Final Four, because it was like, all right,

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Speaker 3: we just had the most improbable victory, yeah, over one

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Speaker 3: and you're like, well, as a Duke fan, I've seen

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Speaker 2: That one I loved UNLV because they were in the

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Speaker 2: like they I mean, they were those guys all came back.

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Speaker 2: The crazy thing about that UNLV team, they came back

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Speaker 2: they all came back anyway. Larry Johnson, Augman, all those

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Speaker 2: So then all of a sudden. It was like they

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Speaker 2: were trying to be the first perfect team since Indiana.

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Speaker 2: And no one's done that since. By the way, Kentucky

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Speaker 2: And then the irony of it all is then that

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Speaker 2: leads to Duke being the first one to win back

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Speaker 3: Well, and they lose, you know, I mean you and

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Speaker 3: Alvi gets their first title by winning by thirty. Yeah

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Speaker 3: the year before, right, Duke goes and gets Grant Hill, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: to and then that would lead my other the other

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Speaker 3: biggest Duke game, maybe of all time, Duke Kentucky in

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Speaker 2: The Latner shot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's an all timer.

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Speaker 2: look back on that very fondly too, because they should

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Speaker 2: there was there was a lot of that. G man,

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Speaker 2: you got you got a Chelsea Champions League victory somewhere

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Speaker 2: in there that you'd like to relive.

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Speaker 3: Are you rolling his eyes? Welcome back, buddy.

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Speaker 2: He's only gone one day.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: I mean we just saw here today.

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Speaker 3: He's here tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Hey, he's back. What's his what's his number one?

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Speaker 3: What's your number one?

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Speaker 2: Relive any sports memory of your youth or of your adulthood.

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Speaker 2: Come on, g man, you always come in a big way.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say the twenty fifteen to sixteen Penguin season.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how are you penns fan, they're the closest, closest, closest, Yeah, yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's the third one for Crosby, or the second one.

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Speaker 4: That's the second one for Crosby, the first of the

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Speaker 4: back to back, first of the back to back, because

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Speaker 4: like we were not not in the mix in like

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Speaker 4: December when on a crazy run, hottest team going into

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Speaker 4: thing beating the San Jose Sharks in the cup final.

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Speaker 2: You know, what are what the common denominator and all

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Speaker 2: the things we just mentioned too, is is that it's

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Speaker 2: all when it kind of comes out of nowhere. You know,

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Speaker 2: there was something this week about and we get some

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Speaker 2: it's and you hear it down in Columbus too. The

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Speaker 2: toxicity of fan bases. Toxicity and passion are it's a

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Speaker 2: very thin line between the two, and passion can lead

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Speaker 2: to toxicity and and and I think they're very relatable.

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Speaker 2: But but one thing that is typically that that's so

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Speaker 2: rare in duke basketball, Ohio State football, and even Penguin's hockey.

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Speaker 2: From GM's GMN standpoint, very rarely is there very little expectation.

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Speaker 2: And so when there is very little expectation and greatness

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Speaker 3: In twenty fourteen, after that Michigan game, like you're playing Alabama, dude,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and bring some sunscreen or bring a hat. We

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Speaker 3: And our social media is all over every one of

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt they've never had an open quarterback competition. No,

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Speaker 2: You know, we've known really since the drafting of Baker,

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Speaker 2: This will be very fun to see how this all play.

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Speaker 3: Be a full day and they'll hit the practice field

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Speaker 2: I've never had this happen before. But as I pop

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Speaker 3: So I was Gmian and I were talking earlier, and

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna one up you, buddy. It appears to me.

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Speaker 3: Some lights are not not I.

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Speaker 2: How does how does if Jason Tatum doesn't have a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are enough from clown wants to know, givee

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Speaker 3: that point.

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Speaker 2: A little different. By the way, enough from the clown's

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Speaker 2: been around a long time. Then if he's got your

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Speaker 2: old charts, your old throwing charts.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I was charting that one year and oh he's

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Speaker 3: coming up. I think they think the new Pope's coming

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Speaker 3: out now. I think he's gonna give a blessing to

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Speaker 3: the millions of people that are rushing into that square. Nope, yep,

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Speaker 3: there he is.

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Speaker 2: G Man's got it.

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Speaker 3: It's that's a big moment for America. That's a really

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Speaker 3: big moment. I can remember doing quarterback charting during Manziel Now,

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Speaker 3: you know, there were people at the time that were like,

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Speaker 3: what are you doing? And I'm like, look, this is

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Speaker 3: what I'm basing it off of. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: there's any please don't cover my stuff as facts. And

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Speaker 3: I can remember Matt Hasselback on Mike and Mike calling

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Speaker 3: me out. He goes, we've got quarterback trackers, like, because

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Speaker 3: I was just posting it on my social media and

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Speaker 3: then ESPN Cleveland, who I was working for, and Good

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Speaker 3: Karma started retweeting it. Yeah, and it got and like

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Speaker 3: Hasselback like called me a buffoon, and like were like, well, no,

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Speaker 3: maybe there's something to this. I mean, the other guy's

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Speaker 3: better than Manziel right now, Like yeah, on the football charting,

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Speaker 3: it was that's pretty good. It was pretty great. Yeah

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Speaker 3: I did. I don't know if I could do that right.

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Speaker 2: Now, probably not. Like to also want to wish a

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Speaker 2: happy birthday to our head coach Kevin Stefanski. Birthday boy,

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Speaker 2: birthday boy. There you go. What's he Have you? Anybody

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Speaker 2: seen him around the building today?

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Speaker 3: I have not.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen him yet.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's here. I mean it's.

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Speaker 2: Starting, it's camps, all of those things.

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Speaker 3: Can I read that on the air Chicago produced a

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Speaker 3: pope before QBU threw for four thousand yards.

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Speaker 2: Chicago's claiming him. What about Santa Monica? They can't claim him.

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Speaker 3: That's a great question, like on the Hall of Fame, bust,

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Speaker 3: what what do we got? Santa Monica Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Born in Chicago. So I think that that's fair. Alma

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Speaker 2: mater for the new pope Villanova University and then away

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Speaker 2: he goes. So yeah, yeah, pretty pretty cool, pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: Happy birthday to coach as well. Those are your Hot

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Speaker 2: our collective thoughts and prayers to the the Selic family. Dylan,

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Speaker 2: the Selk Bay Village lacrosse player who just a heartbroken

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Speaker 2: had passed away from an injury that happened in a

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Speaker 2: game Bay Village was I think they're playing Homestead Falls.

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Speaker 2: They were not Tuesday night. I was made aware of

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Speaker 2: this yesterday that he was in trouble. I had heard

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Speaker 2: word about kind of what had happened. I just my

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Speaker 2: heart breaks for the family. It breaks for the community

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Speaker 2: that is that is a tight knit community. He kind

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Speaker 2: of everybody, kind of knows everybody, and I just can't

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Speaker 2: imagine the grief and just want to give our deepest

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Speaker 2: condolences and thoughts to that family and amidst the most

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Speaker 2: incomprehensible tragedy, when you go to watch your kids play sports,

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Speaker 2: it's joy. I talk about it all the time. It's

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Speaker 2: it's nothing short of joy to watch them do it.

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Speaker 2: I cannot imagine it. It never even enters into your

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Speaker 2: head that something tragic could happen, and then for it

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Speaker 2: to be the ultimate tragedy. Are just our thoughts and

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Speaker 2: prayers from us here and everyone with the organization for

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Speaker 2: what you're going through, I can't possibly imagine it you

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Speaker 2: Kevin Sefanski was on the CBS Sports podcast We Need

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Speaker 2: to Talk with Jenny Dell and Andrea Kramer. Talked a

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Speaker 2: little bit about the off season, the additions in the

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Speaker 2: quarterback position.

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Speaker 6: As you enter this off season, take us inside about

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Speaker 6: the rollercoaster that it takes to get through an off

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Speaker 6: season with free agency in the draft.

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Speaker 7: It does sometimes feel like that roller coaster, Jenny, where

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Speaker 7: you know, you get out of the season and there's

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Speaker 7: a lot of work that has to be done. So

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Speaker 7: you put your scout hat on and you start watching

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Speaker 7: the tape and then it's the combine and oh, by

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Speaker 7: the way, it's the senior ball, and then finally you

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Speaker 7: get players in your building like we have now where

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Speaker 7: we get to start our off season program. So these

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Speaker 7: buildings are a lot more fun when there's players here

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Speaker 7: and we get to go on the grass and coach

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Speaker 7: our guys. But the exciting part is every year is different.

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Speaker 7: As you guys know, every single years, new players, new faces,

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Speaker 7: and we're certainly excited to add a bunch of guys

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Speaker 7: to this group.

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Speaker 6: Every year is different, that's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 6: Historically, since nineteen ninety nine, when the team resumed play

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Speaker 6: in Cleveland, the Browns have had forty different starting quarterbacks.

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Speaker 6: You look at that number, it's a large one. How

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Speaker 6: difficult is it? And why is it so difficult to

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Speaker 6: find a franchise?

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Speaker 7: QBA it is Listen, I've heard that stat many times.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, but bottom.

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Speaker 7: Line, no, that's okay. But bottom line is we're excited

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Speaker 7: about where we are and what we got going here. Obviously,

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Speaker 7: like every franchise in the NFL, you're looking for stability

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Speaker 7: at that you'd love to be going from a twenty

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Speaker 7: year starter to a twenty year starter. But for us,

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Speaker 7: we look at the guys that we have that we're

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Speaker 7: really really excited about. We have some young guys on

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Speaker 7: the roster, some older guys on the roster, and they're

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Speaker 7: all going to compete. So the exciting part for me

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Speaker 7: as a coach is I have a group that I

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Speaker 7: really like. I like these guys personally, I like how

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Speaker 7: they play, and then we get to go watch them

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Speaker 7: compete and try to lead this team in the fall.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, to your point, Kevin, in less than two months,

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Speaker 8: you have remade that quarterback for home. You've got Joe Flecco,

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Speaker 8: can you Pickett? And rookie's Dylan Gabriel and some guy

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Speaker 8: named Sanders. So look, the good news is the Browns

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Speaker 8: have twenty years of variance in that quarterback room, but

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Speaker 8: seventeen of them belong to Flacco. So how do you

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Speaker 8: develop these three young quarterbacks who have different styles and

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Speaker 8: different skill sets.

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Speaker 7: I think it's really the exciting part of what we do, Andrea,

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Speaker 7: is getting young players, older players, guys with different traits.

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Speaker 7: I think that's the other part as coaches that we

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Speaker 7: really enjoy. You have Sometimes you have a tight end

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Speaker 7: that is really good running down the field and you're

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Speaker 7: going to try a design place for him, and then

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Speaker 7: you have another tight end maybe that is better working

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Speaker 7: underneath seat to design place for him. No different with quarterbacks.

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Speaker 7: You want to make sure that you're playing the strengths

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Speaker 7: of your quarterback. So it's our job to identify what

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Speaker 7: those strengths are, help these guys work in areas that

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Speaker 7: we feel like they need improvement, and then get a

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Speaker 7: guy in the fall that goes out there and plays

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Speaker 7: some ball for us. But this is the fun part

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Speaker 7: for me and for us as coaches, because we consider

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Speaker 7: ourselves developers. We want to develop town and I think

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Speaker 7: one of the misnomers with young players is these guys

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Speaker 7: are finished products and they're not. There's a lot that

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Speaker 7: they're excited to learn and we're excited to teach.

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Speaker 2: All right, So more from coach on the We Need

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Speaker 2: to Talk podcast here. He is on having Shador in

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Speaker 2: the building.

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Speaker 7: Once you're in the building, nobody really cares where you

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Speaker 7: were drafted, first round, fifth round, undrafted. I've been around

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Speaker 7: so many great players that weren't drafted. Clearly he has

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Speaker 7: the talent to go higher in the draft.

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Speaker 3: He didn't.

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Speaker 7: That's our job right now to dive into things where

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Speaker 7: we can help. But none of these guys are finished products,

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Speaker 7: and Shadur certainly has things he can work on. But

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Speaker 7: in terms of the person, in terms of the kid

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Speaker 7: who's really willing to work. I think that's who we're getting.

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Speaker 7: We're getting a guy that really is not so concerned

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Speaker 7: about where he landed in this draft, but he is

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Speaker 7: willing to put in the work, and that's what we're

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Speaker 7: gonna do.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that I think, because of what Shudor

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Speaker 2: accomplished in college and because of you know, kind of

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Speaker 2: all of that, and because of everything he's got three

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Speaker 2: and a half billion Instagram following all of it, the

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Speaker 2: one thing that I would push back on is is

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Speaker 2: guys are treated different where they're drafted.

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Speaker 3: It's where I wanted to go. That's a first. When

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Speaker 3: I heard the clip, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Like, that's entirely true. Nobody's trying to get across, but

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Speaker 2: it's very.

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Speaker 3: And in the building. Absolutely. But understand tomorrow when rookie

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Speaker 3: mini camp opens up to the media, there's gonna it

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Speaker 3: is going to be a who's who here? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: national standpoint, and they're going to be here to see him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah the rout pick or not.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's pretty wild too, because I think you're very

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Speaker 2: lucky that Dylan is the other quarterback And the reason

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Speaker 2: I say that is Dylan Gabriel played a lot of

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Speaker 2: years of college football. He played at Oklahoma, he played

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Speaker 2: at Oregon. Oklahoma especially would have a media that is

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Speaker 2: probably bigger than this one, certainly like the it's more

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Speaker 2: similar to the Ohio State Beat, where it's probably sixty

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Speaker 2: people who are there every day covering Oklahoma football. That's

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Speaker 2: my guess. Oregon would probably be a little bit more

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Speaker 2: similar to our beat in terms of the size of it.

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Speaker 2: But it's really good that he's the other rookie quarterback

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Speaker 2: because he's seen everything, and he's experienced everything, and he's

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Speaker 2: used to all of the pressure that comes with it.

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Speaker 2: And with that also, I think he'll be able to

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Speaker 2: handle the fact that a guy who is drafted two

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Speaker 2: rounds behind him is getting so much attention, because really,

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Speaker 2: if Shadour were not drafted, all of that attention would

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Speaker 2: be on Dylan. Now, you would not have all of

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Speaker 2: the media outlets here that are here for Shadur because

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Speaker 2: it's kind of the perfect storm in terms of the

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Speaker 2: fall and the fame and all of it. So that

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Speaker 2: will lead to kind of what comes in the next

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Speaker 2: couple of days on that front. But I do think

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Speaker 2: Dylan is perfectly built to handle it from his.

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Speaker 3: Perspective, absolutely, and that's He's got some pretty great credentials himself. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean Chador has done some stuff, a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff, and Dylan Gabriel has done a lot.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gable has thrown from more yards than anybody in

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Speaker 2: the history of college football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, big game after big game after big game, and

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Speaker 3: kept going up in terms of program stature at every

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Speaker 3: place he played. The stage got bigger, the lights got

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Speaker 3: bigger or brighter, and he showed up and showed out.

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Speaker 2: Yes he did. I should say he's passed for the

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Speaker 2: second most yards in the history of college football. You

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Speaker 2: can you guess number one who is five hundred yards

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Speaker 2: clear of Dylan He played here.

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Speaker 3: Case Keenum g Man. How about the g Man g Man. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The accolades for Dylan are are pretty crazy. Big

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Speaker 2: Ten Most Valuable Player, Big Ten Offensive Player of the Year,

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Speaker 2: Big Ten Quarterback of the Year, Big Twelve Offensive Newcomer

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Speaker 2: of the Year, First Team, All American First Team, All

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Speaker 2: Big Ten First Team, All Big Twelve. Yeah, pretty good.

654
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Speaker 2: Most career touchdown passes tied with Keenum is These are

655
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Speaker 2: the NC Double A records. He has most career touchdown passes,

656
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Speaker 2: tied with Keenum, most career touchdowns are responsible for, he

657
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Speaker 2: has by himself, most career points responsible for in NC

658
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Speaker 2: double A history, he has by himself. So Gabriel has

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Speaker 2: all of those stats on his own. I'm excited to

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Speaker 2: see the two of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like you said, the quarterback competition starts. It starts

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Speaker 3: tomorrow this seven am. Away we go, and I'm fascinated

663
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Speaker 3: to see how some of these younger some of these

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Speaker 3: other players, Like I want to see Mason Graham getting

665
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Speaker 3: in the defensive line drills. Was Jacques's air, I mean

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Speaker 3: our running back coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna like those guys.

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Speaker 3: We just we were in the lunch line, the g

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Speaker 3: Man and I with our new running back tandem. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: great guys. I'm fascinated to see how they work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's it's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: And because you have those big numbers, you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: a lot of ball I mean you can get a

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Speaker 2: lot of you know, a lot of seven on seven

675
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Speaker 2: stuff and been in the ball around. I think that's

676
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Speaker 2: the only way. I mean, at some point you have

677
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Speaker 2: to see these guys play and hopefully my hunch as

678
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Speaker 2: you will that you'll you'll see a lot of that.

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Speaker 2: So that is fun. We are going to talk a lot.

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Speaker 2: We continue kind of around the AFC North at two o'clock,

681
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Speaker 2: Mike Defabo going to join us on the Steelers beat

682
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Speaker 2: in terms of kind of everything that's been going on there.

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Speaker 2: So we will we'll get into that. But one thing

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Speaker 2: we wanted to play is and I thought this because

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Speaker 2: when I see Pickens traded, I'm thinking, well, that doesn't

686
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Speaker 2: feel like anything Aaron Rodgers would want is to eliminate

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Speaker 2: talent in the room. If you put yourself in Aaron Rodgers'

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Speaker 2: head and you eliminate ayahuasca, what you're I'm probably saying

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Speaker 2: is I'll make anything work. Just give me talent and

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Speaker 2: I'll make it work. So this was Pittsburgh Post Gazette

691
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Speaker 2: Steelers reporter Gary Dulac on The Dan Patrick Show asked

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Speaker 2: if the Pickens trade will impact Aaron Rodgers' decision. Here's

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Speaker 2: what he said to that.

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Speaker 9: You know, I don't think, so they don't think. So,

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Speaker 9: you know, from the it doesn't have any impact at

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Speaker 9: all on whether he signs with the team. I will

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Speaker 9: say this, Dan and of course, this was certainly no

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Speaker 9: motivation for making a deal. But Aaron Rodgers didn't get

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Speaker 9: to where he is as a future Hall of Famer

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Speaker 9: by being an undisciplined fly by the CD of Pans quarterback,

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Speaker 9: which is kind of the description you can apply to

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Speaker 9: George Pickens. You know, I think Aaron Rodgers is a

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Speaker 9: very detailed quarterback, and I don't think he is on

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Speaker 9: the field relationship with George Pickens, who is anything but

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Speaker 9: that would mesh very well. So you know, I don't

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Speaker 9: want to say it might be a blessing and enticement

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Speaker 9: for Aaron Rodgers to come.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that at all.

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Speaker 9: But I don't know that it would have been a

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Speaker 9: good mix here anyhow.

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Speaker 2: You know, the one thing I'll the one thing I

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Speaker 2: think Jerry's absolutely right on is where he says I

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Speaker 2: don't think the Steelers think it will hurt. We have

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Speaker 2: no idea what Rogers thinks, none.

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Speaker 3: Not a clue. May eighth, what does Rogers think about anything?

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Speaker 3: Right now? What does you think about nine?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 2: I would say he's excited about the first American pope,

719
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Speaker 2: Pope Leo the fourteenth. I'm sure he's jacked up about that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Z thinks and I think he I don't know,

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Speaker 2: maybe he's right on this, there's no way of knowing.

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Speaker 2: My theory on this is that he knows that he's

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Speaker 2: going to be a Steeler. U Z thinks he thinks

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Speaker 2: something is going to open up, or he's hoping something

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Speaker 2: that will open up somewhere else, and maybe he's not

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Speaker 2: crazy about being a Steeler, which I could totally see.

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Speaker 2: I just think it's going to be if you're him

728
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Speaker 2: and you're going to be like in the position Flacco

729
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Speaker 2: was in a couple of years ago with us, like

730
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Speaker 2: you have to have yourself in game shape and then

731
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Speaker 2: you're kind of just waiting on something bad to happen

732
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Speaker 2: to somebody else and then rolling the dice that that

733
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Speaker 2: bad happens on a team that you would want to join. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't if if the if Drake may were to

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Speaker 2: get hurt in New England, do I think he would

736
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Speaker 2: run to that student scenario? No, I don't, But obviously

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Speaker 2: the ones you think over like San Francisco and the

738
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Speaker 2: Rams and those type of places Miami, if there's an

739
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Speaker 2: injury there, then you say, boy, that's pretty good. You

740
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Speaker 2: could paratroop into that Minnesota McCarthy were to go down

741
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Speaker 2: again paratroop into that. That makes a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's the thing that's kind of hard

743
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Speaker 2: to figure out in all of this, And I continue

744
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Speaker 2: to say that it's just stupefying that we're sitting this

745
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Speaker 2: far into the offseason and they they are currently have

746
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Speaker 2: a quarterback room of Mason Rudolph, Will Howard and Skyler Thompson.

747
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Speaker 2: That's right, that's wild.

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Speaker 3: By the way, do like excuse me later on what

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Speaker 3: mentioned something about, you know, the Steelers going out and

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Speaker 3: getting another veteran quarterback. He goes, They've always had two veterans.

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Speaker 3: They believe in veterans who have played before, they necessarily

752
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Speaker 3: play the work. He goes. Now, I love Will Howard.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to see Will Howard get snaps and get

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Speaker 3: time in this offense. But he's like, I could see

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Speaker 3: them going to get he goes. I don't know who

756
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Speaker 3: they would go out and get, but they'd scour the

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Speaker 3: weather wire and get some journeyman to come in.

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Speaker 2: Is there even a I don't even know what that

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Speaker 2: list who's unsigned.

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Speaker 3: It's a great question. I mean, I've seen the top

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Speaker 3: of the list of remaining.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, Tyer, this is it. Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: Tyler Huntley. No Garoppolo signed, right.

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Speaker 3: I thought he did. Didn't he sign with the Raiders?

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Speaker 2: That's what I thought?

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Speaker 3: Right?

767
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Speaker 2: Or No, Ram rams Is Wentz on a team. No,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's it. I mean. Other than that, then

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Speaker 2: you start to get in the Jeff Driscoll, Ben Rippon,

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Speaker 2: Teddy Bridgewater, Desmond Ritter, Jarrett Stidham, c J. Bethard like

771
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Speaker 2: that type of scenario. Yeah, so it's pretty limited at

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Speaker 2: this point. I guess they could go see if they

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Speaker 2: could acquire cousins. They could probably go do that. But

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Speaker 2: if they go do that, they're gonna be doing so

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Speaker 2: from a from an incredibly negative spot, and the Falcons

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Speaker 2: will have them over the barrel negotiation. Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So that that will be something to watch and we'll

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Speaker 2: we'll dig in on this a little bit more. Coming

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Speaker 2: up at two o'clock, The NFL to every NFL Team's

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Speaker 2: biggest off season need for twenty twenty five. Do we

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Speaker 2: agree with what the Sporting News says the Brown's biggest

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Speaker 2: team's biggest off season need for twenty twenty five. For

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Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns, Vinnie writes cornerback hmm. He writes the

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Speaker 2: Browns need to add some depth, that they still have

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Speaker 2: injuries and effectiveness concerns with Martin Emerson and Greg Newsom,

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Speaker 2: Rasul Douglas and the Sante Samuel Junior are options. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I could disagree. If I would, let's

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Speaker 2: do this inverted position. Groups with the least need corner

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Speaker 2: would be near the top of that list, correct, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not even the vicinity of wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: I would agree, not close.

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Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, can we have a little discussion

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Speaker 3: on this? Because I put it later on ESPN has

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Speaker 3: their you know, biggest need for every team post draft. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and they have it right. Wide receiver. Yes, I put

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Speaker 3: safety a close second because safety is real. I think

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Speaker 3: that's that that is a that is a problem. You

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Speaker 3: need some guys there now.

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Speaker 2: The good news. I agree with safety. I think safety

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Speaker 2: would be number two. I think wide receiver is number one.

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Speaker 2: And we saw what's his name, Gabe Davis was cut yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there'd be some interest there. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: wide receiver is number one our current If we're in

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Speaker 2: a three wide right now, it would probably be obviously

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Speaker 2: it would be Jerry and said on the outside, and

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Speaker 2: then Jamari Thrash would probably be the third. That's I

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Speaker 2: don't know, is that probably your three at this moment,

817
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: but like you could use another guy, Cedric Tillman needs

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00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: to come along, like you need you need more in

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Speaker 2: that room, I think for sure. And I think the

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Speaker 2: next thing I would look at would probably be interior

821
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Speaker 2: of the offensive line is really good. I think you

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Speaker 2: know you're never gonna get left tackles. You've got a

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Speaker 2: ton of them on the roster, so you're probably fine.

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Speaker 2: There a lot of depth that tied end, but if

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Speaker 2: a good one came about, you'd want to take a look.

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Speaker 2: And then but it's you're right, it's wide receiver and

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Speaker 2: it's safety. Yeah, those are the two.

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Speaker 3: Look at the cornerback room is Tony Brown, Miles Harden,

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Speaker 3: I mean you want to see more from him, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Anthony Kendall, Cam Mitchell, Mitchell's played well. We got to

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Speaker 3: stay healthy, Greg Newsome, Denzel Ward. Yeah, I'm not concerned

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 2: Not at all. No, no, no, no, I think corner is is.

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Speaker 2: You could argue corner is one of the strengths of

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Speaker 2: the whole roster. Yeah, is corner safety the first I

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Speaker 2: mean Delpa obviously speaks for itself. But then Ronnie Hickman, Ronnie,

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Speaker 2: there's a lot on Ronnie Hickman that those rooms are

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Speaker 2: thin man, Trey Dean, Christopher Edmunds, Donovan McMillan, I mean

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Speaker 2: those are the that's the room. I mean, you could

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Speaker 2: even argue safety is a bigger need, immediate need right now.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 2: The good news about safety is there are a bunch

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Speaker 2: of talented guys who are still out there. They could

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Speaker 2: sign wide receiver less. So there's not a whole lot

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Speaker 2: left at wide receiver. If we want to dip our

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Speaker 2: toe in those waters. As you mentioned ESPN dot Com

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Speaker 2: with the biggest position need and it was wide receiver.

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00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: They write, Jerry Judy great, just fine as a number one.

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Speaker 2: It's everything behind him that's the issue. The number two receivers,

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Speaker 2: Cedric Tillman, had only three hundred and thirty nine receiving

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Speaker 2: yards in eleven games. The number three option is Deontay Johnson,

852
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: who had a strange twenty twenty four, played for three teams.

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00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: It's a bet on him, for sure, but I still

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Speaker 2: think you need to add speed. After that comes veteran

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00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: Michael Woods who only had seven receptions, Jamari Thrash. Behind

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Speaker 2: them DeAndre Carter and four year player David Bell. So

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Speaker 2: that's the room there. Yeah, it's wide receiver and it's safety.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's where maybe you're hoping that Andrew Berry's

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Speaker 3: got another trade.

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Speaker 2: Up this sleep yeah, yeah, or yeah to go get someone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you could. I mean we've had those things before

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Speaker 2: where the middle of summer, guys get added to rooms

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they get a little bit

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Speaker 2: more robust. Second hour of the program coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Keep It Twisted Cleveland. He is Mike de Fabo. He

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Speaker 2: is the Steelers beat writer at the Athletic, and he

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Speaker 2: joins us there, Mike, thank you so much for taking

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Speaker 2: the time. I'm gonna start with a theory of mine,

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Speaker 2: and you tell me how nuts this is. I believe

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Speaker 2: that the Steelers know they're getting Rogers, and they've known

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Speaker 2: all all along. And my reason for that is I

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Speaker 2: just don't think that organization would be in that quarterback

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Speaker 2: situation if they didn't know that. Any water to that,

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Speaker 2: do you give any credence to that, to that theory.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's been a lot of theories that have

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Speaker 5: been floated and passed around here in Pittsburgh, and I

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Speaker 5: think anything is reasonable to think about the way I

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Speaker 5: look at it. In what I've heard behind the scenes,

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Speaker 5: there's no from my understanding, there's no kind of like

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00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 5: a secret agreement, no handshake deal, nothing like, hey, we

902
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Speaker 5: know you're going to come after OTAs, but you don't

903
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: have to show up and we'll just have this agreement.

904
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Speaker 5: But what I'll tell you is this, the Steelers internally

905
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Speaker 5: are very optimistic that they're going to land Aaron Rodgers,

906
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 5: and through their words and their actions, they definitely support that.

907
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Speaker 5: And I think the strongest indication came during the draft

908
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 5: on basically the Steelers version of what this station right here.

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00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 5: Art Rooney, the team president and owner, said during the

910
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Speaker 5: draft that all the signs are encouraging and they really

911
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Speaker 5: believe that.

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Speaker 10: Aaron Rodgers wants to play for Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 5: So I think that it's by far the most likely scenario,

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Speaker 5: and I think it's almost inevitable at this point.

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Speaker 10: But because of the fact.

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Speaker 5: That you're dealing with someone like Aaron Rodgers, who's unpredictable,

917
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 5: who appears to want to do things his own way

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Speaker 5: and on his own terms until he does sign, I

919
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 5: feel like it's really possible that anything can happen with

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Speaker 5: this quarterback situation.

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Speaker 2: It's such a wild thing to wrap your head around.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, it all seems like it's pointing in

923
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Speaker 2: that direction. Let me from the fan perspective, do they

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Speaker 2: want him? No?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think that you could find a single

926
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Speaker 5: person in Pittsburgh that's excited about this for a couple

927
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Speaker 5: of reasons. I mean, yeah, he's a like you could

928
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 5: tell yourself, he's a four time MVP, you could tell

929
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 5: yourself he's a Super Bowl champion. Steelers fans know that

930
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 5: very well because he beat the Pittsburgh Steelers to.

931
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Speaker 10: Win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: But I think people are looking at the fact that

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Speaker 5: he's forty one years old. You know, he played for

934
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Speaker 5: the Jets last year. They won five games, even after

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Speaker 5: he asked them to trade for his preferred targets like

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Speaker 5: Davonte Adams. They still in two of those games with

937
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Speaker 5: DeVante Adams didn't score an offensive touchdowns. So there's a

938
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Speaker 5: lot of skepticism and question marks with this team, and

939
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Speaker 5: especially given their track record, because you know they basically

940
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Speaker 5: have tried this twice already. At the end of Ben

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Speaker 5: roethlisberger career, they said Big Ben is no longer Hall

942
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Speaker 5: of Fame prime big Ben, but we don't need him

943
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Speaker 5: to be with TJ. Watt and make a fit Patrick

944
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Speaker 5: and Cameron Hayward. Well, that never led to a playoff win.

945
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Speaker 5: Last year they kind of told themselves the same thing, Well,

946
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Speaker 5: Russell Wilson might not be in his prime, but we

947
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Speaker 5: don't need him to be because we've got this great defense. Well,

948
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Speaker 5: that great defense gave up nearly three hundred rushing yards

949
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Speaker 5: in the playoffs to the Ravens and flamed out again.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, after eight years of failing to

951
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Speaker 5: win a playoff game, I think people in Pittsburgh are

952
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 5: understandably skeptical about the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 2: If you were to poll those same fans that are skeptical,

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Speaker 2: what would they have wanted the Steelers off season to

956
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Speaker 2: look like.

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Speaker 5: Well, what I would have done, and what I think

958
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 5: a large portion of the sand base was lobbying for,

959
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 5: would have been to sign Justin Fields and to do

960
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Speaker 5: it early. He was the guy. After the season, Art Rooney,

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Speaker 5: the owner, came out and he said, my preference is

962
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Speaker 5: to sign either Justin Fields or Russell Wilson. Well, it

963
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Speaker 5: became clear through the process that really it was Justin

964
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Speaker 5: Fields was their guy. And I feel like everybody overpays

965
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Speaker 5: for a quarterback in some form or fashion, whether you're

966
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Speaker 5: giving up significant compensation in the draft to move up

967
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Speaker 5: and get a legitimate first round guy or on the

968
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Speaker 5: open market. I mean, this is this is a world

969
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 5: where every quarterback seems to be making more than forty

970
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 5: million dollars a year and Justin Fields is making just

971
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 5: twenty million. Because I believe nineteen quarterbacks who make more

972
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 5: money than Justin Fields. I would have seen if you

973
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Speaker 5: could be the team that unlocks him this year and

974
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Speaker 5: then if you're not, okay, that's perfectly fine. Then you're

975
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Speaker 5: in a position to draft a quarterback twenty twenty six

976
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Speaker 5: and Justin.

977
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Speaker 10: Fields provides that bridge as a starter this.

978
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Speaker 5: Year and you know, short term starter next year until

979
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Speaker 5: you get that guy.

980
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 10: Instead, you're rolling.

981
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 5: The dice with this guy that's aging, waffling about whether

982
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 5: he wants to play where he wants to play. I

983
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 5: just feel like you don't want to get into the

984
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 5: situation in the best route to take matters in your

985
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 5: own hands would have been to just lock up Justin

986
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 5: Fields when you had the opportunity.

987
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they had it back they would have

988
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,720
Speaker 2: just kept playing him instead of going to Russ Last.

989
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,760
Speaker 5: Year, Well, they were really divided internally about that. Arthur

990
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 5: Smith the Steelers last year, he was our first year

991
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,359
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, very much preferred Justin Fields, and I think

992
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 5: was intrigued by the challenge and the potential of being

993
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 5: the coordinator that unlocked this guy with great physical skills

994
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 5: and gifts. But it was really Mike Tomlin who acted

995
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 5: almost independent, saying no we want Russ And at that

996
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 5: point Tomlin was really going for the veteran leadership and

997
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 5: the intangibles and been there, done that factor. But really,

998
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 5: you can look back on that decision, sitting at four

999
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 5: and two with Justin Fields playing well, they were coming

1000
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 5: off of a win, and they decided to bench him.

1001
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 5: You can look back on that and really wonder what would.

1002
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 10: Have happened had this Steelers stuck with Justin Fields, you.

1003
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 5: Know, because really they played only enough to entice other teams,

1004
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 5: but not enough to convince themselves that he was the answer,

1005
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 5: and not enough to really know for certain this is

1006
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 5: a guy worth paying big dollar and doing everything it

1007
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 5: takes a lock down.

1008
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: Would you have thought that they would have gone to

1009
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 2: the sixth round before drafting a quarterback.

1010
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 5: Before the draft, you know, heading into it, a lot

1011
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 5: of what I had heard was they really needed a

1012
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 5: defensive lineman. They had moved on cut Larry Ogunjobi.

1013
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 10: So they needed a starting cow defensive lineman.

1014
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 5: That was their main priority in round one, and they

1015
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 5: were lucky in some senses that one of the three

1016
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 5: guys that could have been in their range was still

1017
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 5: available in Derek Carmon. And then they didn't have a

1018
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 5: second round pick because the DK Metcalf trade and third

1019
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 5: round they really were interested in running back. This was

1020
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 5: a very deep and talented running back class and after

1021
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 5: losing Aji Harris, that was their second biggest priority. So,

1022
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 5: you know, everything I heard was Day three was when

1023
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 5: they were going to think about a quarterback. And when

1024
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 5: Jadurr Sanders was still sitting there in the fourth round,

1025
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 5: I thought, maybe this is going to be the move

1026
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 5: for the Steelers. I thought that they could have drafted

1027
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 5: Will Howard as early as the fourth round as the

1028
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 5: board broke differently, or another quarterback. So I think that

1029
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 5: they were in a fortunate situation that I mean, Will

1030
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 5: Howard had like fourth round grades by a lot of people.

1031
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 10: It seems like.

1032
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 5: All the quarterbacks kind of started to tumble and it

1033
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 5: had a ripple effect. You know, no one expected Shadur

1034
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 5: to fall as far as he did, and as a result,

1035
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 5: it also led to Will Howard still being in there

1036
00:54:58,280 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 5: in the sixth round as well.

1037
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 2: What is the have you had a chance to talk

1038
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 2: to him yet? Will Howard over there?

1039
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 5: Mike, So, actually the rookie mini camp starts tomorrow for

1040
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: the Steelers, but we did speak with him on the phone,

1041
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 5: and you know, I think he's approaching this in the

1042
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 5: right way. You know, he he's an interesting prospect in

1043
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 5: the sense that he has prototypical size. You know, here

1044
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh people are excited trying to compare his measurements.

1045
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 10: To Ben Roethlisberger. He also played his best football during.

1046
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 5: A national championship run. His stat's in the College Football

1047
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 5: Playoff for the best of his college career. So that's

1048
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 5: a good indication that this guy can.

1049
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Speaker 10: Raise his level of play when it matters most.

1050
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 5: But then what he brought up to us so I

1051
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 5: thought was interesting is he said he's done everything that

1052
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 5: a quarterback could be asked. And what he meant by

1053
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 5: that was he's been a backup. He's been benched before

1054
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 5: and had to come back from that. And I think

1055
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 5: that that kind of thing is really valuable because you know,

1056
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 5: odds are you're looking at a guy who's going to

1057
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 5: have a career kind of similar to like Mason Rudolph.

1058
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 5: You're looking at a guy who's probably going to be

1059
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 5: back up tob two for most of his career and

1060
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 5: maybe if you're lucky and things really pan out an

1061
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 5: optimistic way for the Steelers, he turns into Kirk Cousins

1062
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 5: long term, but the fact that he's gone through these

1063
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 5: different experiences, I think that that should benefit him given

1064
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,959
Speaker 5: what his role is going to be on the team.

1065
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Speaker 2: Mike, one thing I'll tell you about him that's really cool.

1066
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 2: Having been really tight with the situation down in Columbus.

1067
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: He was hand picked by Ryan Day, He was compensated

1068
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: richly to go play quarterback at Ohio State, and there

1069
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: was not an ounce of entitlement on a wildly incredibly

1070
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: senior Layden roster that was really loaded. He never acted

1071
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: like anybody owed him anything, and he went and earned

1072
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: all of it. So like that part of it is

1073
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 2: a really cool part of his story. And while obviously

1074
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 2: the Steelers are arrival of the Browns, he's an easy

1075
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: kid to root for in that sense because he's earned

1076
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: everything that's come his way. The draft out, what did

1077
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 2: you make of their draft outside of Howard? Did it

1078
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: address the needs? It feels like you mentioned Detackle running back,

1079
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 2: the gat Jack Sawyer in the fourth round, Howard steam

1080
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 2: Ann out of Ohio State. Seems like every box was checked.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, you know, I kind of look at the

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00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 5: Steelers right now if they play their cards correctly, they

1083
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 5: could kind of be like the early two thousand Steelers

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00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 5: before they got Ben Roethlisberger, where you had a very

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00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 5: good defense, you had an excellent offensive line, you had

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00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 5: Jerome Bette's in a reliable running game, and they were

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00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 5: like good enough that you were thinking, yeah, maybe this

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 5: could be a playoff team, probably not a legitimate contender.

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00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 5: And then they get the quarterback and that helps vault

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Speaker 5: them into that conversation as a true contender, and the

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00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 5: quarterback ultimately ends up elevating the rest of the team.

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Speaker 5: That's kind of you know, I don't know that they're

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00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 5: quite there, but they're they're kind of close in that.

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Speaker 5: Like you look around their roster and after the draft,

1095
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 5: there aren't a lot of holes other than now after

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00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 5: trade George Pickens number two wide receiver. So you know,

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Speaker 5: I think it was very important to get a defensive

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00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 5: lineman because not only did you need a starter for

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00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,479
Speaker 5: this year, Cam Hayward is in his mid thirties right now,

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00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 5: not getting any younger. I hate to say it in

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00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 5: blunt terms like this, but there's a chance that last

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00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 5: year was Cam hayward Last good year. So you have

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00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 5: to they needed not only a starter for now, but

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00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 5: also plans for the future, and that was the chief priority,

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00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 5: and that's why they went so heavy on the defensive line,

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00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 5: not only with Derek Carmon in the first but also

1107
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 5: y a black out of Iowa in the fifth round

1108
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 5: and then running back. I just feel like the guy

1109
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 5: that they got Caleb Johnson, he fits what they do.

1110
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,920
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith loves the outside zone and at Iowa that

1111
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 5: was the primary concept run concept for the Hawkeyes. And

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00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 5: so you're getting a guy who's six foot one, two

1113
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 5: hundred and twenty five pounds, brings more physicality and versatility

1114
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 5: and durability and some of the other five eight and

1115
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 5: five nine guys that they've got in that room, and

1116
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 5: also just his familiarity with the scheme makes it really

1117
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 5: it should be a seamless transition the.

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00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 10: Guy that fits right into what they want to do offensively.

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Speaker 5: So I think that they played their cards really perfectly well.

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Speaker 5: And you got to add into you know, getting DK

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00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 5: Metcalf for a second round pick, I think was even

1122
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 5: though they had to give him a handsome contract, I

1123
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 5: think that that was a good move because it afforded

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00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 5: you the flexibility then to move on from George Pickens.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Mike de Fabo, Steelers beat reporter at the

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00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 2: Athletic Couple more real quickly for you, let's do the

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00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 2: Pickens thing. Why did they not get this done before

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00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: the draft? Were you surprised that they didn't.

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Speaker 5: In an ideal world, I think the Steelers would have

1130
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 5: loved to get a second or third round pick for

1131
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 5: George Pickens. Immediately drafted a wide receiver and turned over

1132
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 5: that room in one off season with the addition of

1133
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 5: DK subtraction of George Pickens, and they actually hosted a

1134
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 5: ton of pre draft visitors who were wide receivers expected

1135
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 5: to go right in that range, and you can kind

1136
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 5: of read through the lines and see what they were thinking.

1137
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 5: The problem was around the league. Everybody knows what the

1138
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 5: Steelers know about George Pickens, which is he's supremely talented.

1139
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 5: He could be one of the best receivers in the

1140
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 5: league if he can fulfill his potential. But because he

1141
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 5: can't keep his head on straight and you know, continues

1142
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 5: to lose control of his emotions and not treat the

1143
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 5: game professionally, I don't know that he's ever going to

1144
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 5: reach that potential. So you know, they were basically shopping

1145
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 5: him to every team around the league and at the

1146
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 5: athletic When we were asking teams would you be a

1147
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 5: team interested? Some teams literally responded back lol, because they

1148
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 5: were like, there's no chance we're going to invite that

1149
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 5: kind of thing into our locker room. So really what

1150
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 5: happened was during the draft the best they could get

1151
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 5: with a fourth round pick. Then after the draft the

1152
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 5: Dallas Cowboys up their offer. They were able to get

1153
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 5: a third round pick while also in a fifth round pick.

1154
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 5: We'll also giving up a sixth So basically the Steelers

1155
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 5: were in a position like, we want to move this guy.

1156
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 5: If we can get enough to make this seem like

1157
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 5: a reasonable, fair deal, we're going to do it. It

1158
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 5: took until after the draft for the Dallas Cowboys to

1159
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 5: up the offer, and as soon as they did, the

1160
01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 5: Steelers said, okay, deal, let's take it.

1161
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Speaker 2: And that's he's just can't get right situation there with

1162
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 2: with pickings over there, I'll get you out of here

1163
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 2: on this one. Is everything copa setic between them and

1164
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Speaker 2: TJ Watt.

1165
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, there was a lot of speculation a

1166
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 5: couple months ago when TJ posted a picture on instagram

1167
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 5: of him giving the peace sign, and a lot of

1168
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,919
Speaker 5: people ran with that being like, Oh, is he saying

1169
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 5: goodbye to Pittsburgh? Is he frustrated with the contract situation.

1170
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 5: I had actually heard he was just leaving Pittsburgh and

1171
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 5: going to Wisconsin for the offseason, and it was like

1172
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 5: sea at Pittsburgh, Like, I'll be back soon. But when

1173
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 5: it comes to his contract situation, what I can tell

1174
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 5: you is Omar Khan, the general manager, has repeatedly on

1175
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 5: the record said that he wants TJ. Watt to finish

1176
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 5: his career as a Steeler. Omar Khan, the general manager,

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01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 5: is also a very very tough negotiator who basically is

1178
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 5: going to be like, this is my offer, take it

1179
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 5: or leave it. And it definitely makes things more challenging

1180
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 5: for the Steelers that Miles Garrett just reset the market

1181
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 5: and he did so on his third contract already in

1182
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 5: his thirties. Typically you don't get that kind of contract

1183
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 5: as your third contract and in your thirties. So the

1184
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 5: Browns really put the Steelers in a tough spot here

1185
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 5: where there's a bit of a rivalry between TJ.

1186
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:40,880
Speaker 10: Watt and Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 5: And I think that not even because he needs the money,

1188
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 5: but because he wants the level of respect that comes

1189
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Speaker 5: with being the highest paid edge rusher. I think TJ.

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Speaker 5: Watt's going to one contract that looks very similar to that,

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Speaker 5: And so if I were to guess how this is

1192
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 5: going to play out, based on history and based on

1193
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Speaker 5: what I've heard and based on what they've said, I

1194
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 5: feel like this is going to play itself out all

1195
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 5: the way until near the deadline. The Steelers don't negotiate

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01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 5: deals in season, so I would look for somewhere at

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01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 5: the end of training camp TJ. Watt to sign a deal.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think it's gonna until it gets done.

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Speaker 5: I guess you never know, but I just feel like, yeah,

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01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 5: he's such a priority for them, and he single handedly

1201
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 5: reshaped so many games that it's going to make sense

1202
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,960
Speaker 5: for both sides to get this steal done.

1203
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 2: Really enjoyed the conversation, Mike, Thanks for your time today.

1204
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: Greatly appreciate you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, thank you so much for having me.

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01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 2: All Right, there you go, Mike de Febos, Steelers beat

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Speaker 2: sports world. Tyreek Hill names his top five quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Is this an order?

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Speaker 3: That's the order that? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Okay, Lamar, I mean it wasn't number one and number five?

1226
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Speaker 2: These five Lamar, Josh Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 2: Those are his five.

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Speaker 3: The name missing on that one. Yeah, you're current starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: He is going to become a problem there if he's

1230
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 3: not already. You can just see this brewing, and.

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Speaker 2: Well he's about ready to he's about ready to cross

1232
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: over into that pain in the neck talent thing. So

1233
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: if you just think, there's, you know, kind of two

1234
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: vertical columns, and this is your talent and this one's

1235
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: the pain in the neck. And as long as this

1236
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 2: talent is bigger than the pain in the neck, you

1237
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 2: can continue to be compensated and be part of rosters.

1238
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: Once those flip zeke and it goes that way, you're cooked.

1239
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 2: So that happens early. For somebody like Johnny Manziel, it

1240
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: happened really early pain in the neck talent. Nope, it

1241
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 2: happened later. For like ab sure, it happened later. For

1242
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: Tara Owens, it happened later. For other it happened for

1243
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 2: various reasons. There could be all sorts of reasons why

1244
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: it happens, but the reality is that it that it

1245
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: will happen at different times. And he, to me feels

1246
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: like he's right now. The precipice of that, that's.

1247
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find his age. Give me one second,

1248
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: he's thirty one years old. Yeah, there you go, Okay,

1249
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 3: thirty one years old. Played in seventeen games last year

1250
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 3: eighty one catches, nine to fifty nine and six touchdowns.

1251
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: Well, and it was also it was his.

1252
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 3: Fewest yards since his rookie season in twenty sixteen.

1253
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: Right, and there's some off field stuff. He's at his

1254
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 2: second risk surgery. He just posted pictures of that in

1255
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,080
Speaker 2: the last couple of days. Yeah, I mean he went

1256
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 2: from as a twenty nine year old in sixteen games

1257
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 2: one hundred and nineteen catches, seventeen ninety nine and thirteen

1258
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 2: touchdowns to last year eighty one for nine to fifty nine.

1259
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 2: He went from fifteen yards a catch to eleven point eight.

1260
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, it all started to come crumbling down a

1261
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 2: little bit. He's ad anunbelievable career, Yeah, unbelievable career.

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Speaker 3: So he had He signed a four year, one hundred

1263
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 3: and twenty million dollar contract with the Dolphins on March

1264
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 3: twenty third to twenty twenty two. Contract runs through the

1265
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 3: twenty twenty sixth season, has an average annual value of

1266
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 3: thirty million.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I didn't know he's from So he's from

1268
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: South Georgia. I didn't realize that Coffee High School, Coffee

1269
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 2: County High School. I didn't know that I'll be danked. Yeah,

1270
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 2: like I don't know, I don't know, I don't it's

1271
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 2: it's kind of that point where that's it. I'm shocked

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Speaker 2: Bak is on his top five. That's rich. I don't

1273
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: know where that. I'm not sure where that would have

1274
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 2: come from. But yeah, that's that's probably a little bake had.

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01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 2: In all due respect, Bank's been great, but like, that's

1276
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,240
Speaker 2: uh that that's pretty high correct on those side of

1277
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 2: things where he is concerned.

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Speaker 3: M Yeah, I think that bears watching as we get

1279
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 3: into the season because Dolphins don't start well. I mean,

1280
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 3: he's going to get louder and louder and come trade

1281
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 3: deadline time or is it just even a cut depending

1282
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 3: on how much.

1283
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 2: Oh, someone else He's not quite there yet, talents still there.

1284
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: There'll be somebody else who could. I mean, what about

1285
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 2: Kansas City.

1286
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 3: I mean his former Yeah, his former team.

1287
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that would that would make sense. Other

1288
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 2: NFL news, the Carolina Panthers cut Jadevian Clowney.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that. It was going on right as our

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Speaker 3: new pope was being announced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, American, if you're just joining us,

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Speaker 2: Pope Leo the fourteenth out of Chicago. The former Robert

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Speaker 2: prevost I believe Villanova educated as fire with some of

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Speaker 2: of all the power fives on Pope. That's a great

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Speaker 2: tweet edt of you, g Man. You always enter situations

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Brooks, second round pick in twenty twenty four, physically

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Speaker 2: unable to perform this as he were covers from his

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Speaker 2: second ACL injury in thirteen months. He'll miss the entire

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty five season.

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Speaker 3: Not exactly how you want to start the off season.

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Speaker 2: No, out of Texas, they liked him a lot in

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Speaker 2: the draft, second round pick from last year. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: miss his first two years. Basically just nine carries last

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Speaker 2: year before the injury, and then he had a second one.

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Speaker 2: So he's gonna miss his two years. We're gonna miss

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Speaker 2: two years of his first two years of his career.

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Speaker 2: It looks like, yeah, where you know?

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Speaker 3: Time? Still they don't. I think it's four point thirty

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Speaker 3: five o'clock. They got to be in.

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Speaker 2: By I mean he's representing a bowling green nation.

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Speaker 3: I I it's a heavy weight to bear.

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Speaker 2: I like the I like I like how the sweassengers

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Speaker 2: walking around places. I like the look at that guy

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Speaker 2: should looks good. Getting everything kind of locked in there.

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Speaker 2: De we sweassengers bounds out of the car, Dylan saying,

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Speaker 2: there he is, looks good. Uh, quin Shawn looks very good,

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Speaker 2: got his slides on, ready to go. Got he's really

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Speaker 2: put together. Where's Dylan? I didn't see Dylan and oh

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 2: that was early there he is. Oh yeah, oh he's

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Speaker 2: got the guard's hat on.

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Speaker 3: Smart man.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's our social media team and our digital team,

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Speaker 3: content and production are all killing it right now. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: they did a good job. Yeah. Uh, mister fantastic Mace.

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Speaker 2: Our fans are gonna love Mace man, they really are

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Speaker 2: you gonna love him?

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Speaker 3: This guy's great again. Here's a guy at work, man,

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Speaker 3: dude's here to work. Someone asked me last night in

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Speaker 3: the league, by the way, I want to no good

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Speaker 3: to you.

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01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 2: Gibe decent night for it didn't end up being pretty nice.

1354
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: It was chill, but it was okay right.

1355
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 3: However, ones, Actually it wasn't chili. Going back to the

1356
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,919
Speaker 3: whole weather conversation. Yeah, yeah, I mean I mean golf pants.

1357
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,600
Speaker 3: Sure I grabbed the wrong ones. I grabbed the lined ones. Ah,

1358
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 3: not great. Analog sleeve like underneath the polo got a little.

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01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: It was a little warm warm when the sun was out.

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Speaker 2: You're right, when the sun was out, it was pretty warm.

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Speaker 3: I will say this, uh a solid US open rough

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01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 3: because they have not been able.

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Speaker 2: To Oh yeah, so you've hit it in the rough.

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01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 2: You couldn't find it.

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01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 3: Like from fairway too rough? Like that line was the

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Speaker 3: difference between finding your ball and taking twenty minutes to

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Speaker 3: find your ball?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. What were your guys, what is your

1369
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: league ruling on how long you can look for a ball?

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Speaker 3: A couple minutes? But last night I think there was

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01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 3: a little bit of an exception because it was really

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Speaker 3: the first night where everybody was playing.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what rained out this week? One of

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Speaker 2: your former in your past life, one of your favorite events,

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Speaker 2: the Mierfield Village Memorial Media Day, was rained out. They

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Speaker 2: usually try, but the problem, I mean, it's been rained

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01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 2: out before. The problem with it is is you start

1378
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 2: to inch closer to the tournament, and this year they're

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01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 2: back to two weeks before the US opened. They last

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Speaker 2: year they were a week before. Now they're back to

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01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 2: two weeks before. So it's the Monday coming it's the

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Speaker 2: week coming out of late out of Memorial Day. It

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01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,639
Speaker 2: starts and so they kind of got to get going

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01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 2: on it. So they got it done and they were

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01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 2: supposed to do it on I think Tuesday, Monday or Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember, probably Monday because Tuesday would be a

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 2: member day, so I think it was Tuesday. They had

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01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 2: it and it was rained out.

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Speaker 3: That stinks. That is an event, like.

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Speaker 2: They just crush it. They used to. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how many you did, but there were several years before

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 2: I got there where they would give out like drivers

1393
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: to every media member. I didn't I could have used one.

1394
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: They gave out drivers. They gave out golf bags like

1395
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 2: it was crazy. Let alone, like you either get breakfast

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01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: or lunch, whichever one you want. If you play early,

1397
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: you get breakfast. If you play late in the afternoon,

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01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: you get lunch. And then everybody can have a milkshake

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Speaker 2: if they want it. Their milk shakes are the stuff

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Speaker 2: of legends. Yes, And by the way, I know the

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01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,240
Speaker 2: secret sauce. I'd never tell because I love those people,

1402
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 2: but I know exactly what it is.

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01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 3: I've seen them. It's I'm gonna need to pick your

1404
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 3: brain on that, because that milkshake is.

1405
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 2: It's the They get the exact right it's the exact,

1406
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: it's proportionally perfect, the texture's perfect, all of it.

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Speaker 3: They get it right. Yeah, I got the we got

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01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 3: very nice swag bags. They got a hat. I got

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01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 3: a polo.

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01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, always get that. Like it's kind of like a

1411
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: you would be able to go in and pick out.

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01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: Usually they had several different colors of polos to that

1413
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: you could have, and then hats to match. My favorite

1414
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 2: one I ever had. I had a true Kelly Green

1415
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 2: Memorial tournament hat that I used to have that was

1416
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 2: that was beautiful that I keep bugging those guys down there.

1417
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 2: I got to get another one of those. But yeah, yeah,

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01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: and then they do golf bags. Yeah, they're great. It's awesome.

1419
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 3: It's a great time.

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01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: That's a sporting event. I wish I could go back

1421
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 2: and cover and experience it all over again. Is the last?

1422
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 2: Is the last time Tiger won in twelve when he

1423
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: hit the the chip on sixteen that Jack said, that's

1424
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: the best golf shot I've ever seen in my life.

1425
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 2: Might not be wrong either, he might not be if

1426
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 2: you've ever stood there, it's impossible but that to relive

1427
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,880
Speaker 2: a Tiger and we had that at fire. You guys

1428
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 2: had that a firestone up here too, Like it's just

1429
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 2: when he was here in one of these tournaments at

1430
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 2: his apex. I think it sucks that there's only one

1431
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 2: PGA Tour stop in the state of Ohio, correct. I

1432
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 2: think it really sucks with the amount of great golf

1433
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 2: courses in this state that we don't have more. I

1434
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 2: think I think it's a bad job. And there's no

1435
01:15:57,560 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: major's planned here forever.

1436
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: No, because the US Open's got to play the same

1437
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 3: five courses.

1438
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean in the PGA's taking some of them,

1439
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 2: Like I mean, the PGA's at Quail Hollow again. We've

1440
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 2: got to see that. I mean we've seen that Quail

1441
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: Hollow so many times.

1442
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 3: I don't care. Yeah, yeah, that's next week, is it not.

1443
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. So future PGA tour stops Quail Hollow, Ironom Inc.

1444
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty six, PGA Frisco In twenty seven and

1445
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 2: thirty four. That's a new one, a right, that's where

1446
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 2: the PGA's headquarters I think is now. The Olympic Club

1447
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 2: in twenty eight Baltus for all Congressional the Ocean Course

1448
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,840
Speaker 2: at Kiowa. So those are all US Open. So the

1449
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: first chance that you'd have to have a major in Ohio.

1450
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: I mean that they're scheduled all the way out through

1451
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:47,800
Speaker 2: twenty thirty four.

1452
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,320
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.

1453
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 2: US Open future sites. Let's see what we got here

1454
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 2: for US Open. So it's Oakmont this year, I've played Oakmont.

1455
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have played Oakmont, Shinnacocksburg, Pittsburgh, Right, Yeah, it's not.

1456
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: They had a ton of storm damage. Did you see

1457
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: I did. Yeah, Oakland's not for me. That ain't that's not.

1458
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have been there. Shinnecock in twenty twenty six,

1459
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 2: Pebble Beach in twenty seven, wing Foot in twenty eight,

1460
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:22,559
Speaker 2: Pinehurst twenty nine, Marion in thirty, Riviera thirty one, Pebble

1461
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 2: Beach again in thirty two, Oakmont and thirty three again,

1462
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: Oakland Hills in twenty thirty four, Pinehurst in thirty five,

1463
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 2: Shinnacock thirty six, Pebble Beach again, thirty seven, country Club

1464
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 2: at Brookline, thirty eight, LACC thirty nine, Maryon forty, Pinehurst

1465
01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 2: forty one, Oakmont forty two, forty three is Open, forty

1466
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 2: four is Pebble Beach, forty seven, Pinehurst. So basically Pebble Pinehurst, Oakmont,

1467
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 2: are like in the rotation and then Marion. They're schedule

1468
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: all the way out to twenty fifty one Oakland Hills.

1469
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 2: It's going to be the same ten courses for the

1470
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 2: next thirty years, twenty five years.

1471
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 3: That's where ridiculous.

1472
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: That's crazy. And none in Ohio. The last major in

1473
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 2: Ohio is a US Open at Inverness. Do I have

1474
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: that right? In like seventy eight.

1475
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 3: G Man's on it, I don't. I don't know.

1476
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 2: I think it's Inverness, not President's Cup or Ryder Cup.

1477
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 2: Mierfield's had that correct. I think it's Inverness in like

1478
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 2: seventy eight.

1479
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 3: We got to go down. We did, We did the

1480
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 3: President's Cup Media day.

1481
01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.

1482
01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 3: It's fun because it's a whole different course. It's still challenging,

1483
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 3: is all get up, but time of year wise, it was,

1484
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 3: it was a much different track.

1485
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 2: Seventy nine US Open at Inverness.

1486
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,839
Speaker 11: I'm saying ninety three Inverness had the PGA Championship into.

1487
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,879
Speaker 2: Ninety Yeah, eighty six Inverness, you're right, eighty six Inverness.

1488
01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 3: Still, that's ridiculous.

1489
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety three PGA in Inverness, seventy fifth PGA champions.

1490
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 3: So which so US Opener, PGA Championship. What makes the

1491
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,640
Speaker 3: most sense for the state of Ohio is that a

1492
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 3: PGA Championship.

1493
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters. I mean, well, you couldn't

1494
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 2: do anything in the spring, you know, I mean you

1495
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 2: would want it to be the US Open, because otherwise

1496
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: you'd be dodging rain. If if Paul Aisinger your winner

1497
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 2: in the nineteen ninety three PGA Championship at.

1498
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 3: Edinburgh, would Ohio, would the would Mirfield get a major?

1499
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 3: There's two that that didn't have Jack's turnament. Here's what

1500
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 3: I've told.

1501
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 2: Him to do. Play the Memorial Tournament one year, because

1502
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 2: he does not want to ever miss the Memorial. It

1503
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 2: means that much to him. Like it for Jacket's as

1504
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 2: much his legacy as the eighteen majors. So play one year,

1505
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 2: play the Memorial Tournament at Sciota, the place he grew

1506
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: up playing in Upper Arlington. They are not built for

1507
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 2: the crowds or anything like that. So you'd take it

1508
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: a little bit in the shorts the one year to

1509
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 2: do that and then play. If you did that, you

1510
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 2: could play the US Open at Mierfield. You could do that.

1511
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:08,559
Speaker 2: You could possibly do the I think they'd rather do

1512
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 2: the PGA because the US Open they take over your course,

1513
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:15,520
Speaker 2: whereas like the PGA, they'd probably rather do the PGA Championship.

1514
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 2: But I think they could have done that in August.

1515
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 2: I don't think they could do it this time of year.

1516
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 2: It's next week, so you'd be dodging weather the whole time.

1517
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 2: But I've told that to Jack, and not to Jack,

1518
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: he would never let me on his course again. But

1519
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 2: I've told that to Dan Sullivan, who's his partner. I said,

1520
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: boy man, you know, maybe that's the way to do it,

1521
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: and they always bristle at it, but to me, that's

1522
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 2: the only way that you could do it. The only

1523
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 2: other course in the state that can handle it is Firestone,

1524
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 2: and they're now out of the mix, which sucks, but

1525
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:44,280
Speaker 2: they're the only other one in the state that can

1526
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 2: handle the crowds and the parking and all that.

1527
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:54,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that sucks, mister Fantastic. When will the highly

1528
01:20:55,000 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 3: anticipated pilot pass segment debut on CBD? So hoping the

1529
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 3: expanse is feature. What happened?

1530
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 2: So he issued this was last Thursday or Friday? G

1531
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 2: Man could expand, I can't remember. He issued a claim

1532
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 2: of Z and I would watch a television series together

1533
01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,960
Speaker 2: and then decide if we want to continue. I think

1534
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 2: that's it. I think that's what he's going for. Is okay, Yeah,

1535
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: the dead period in the offseason.

1536
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 4: Just the pilot episode of a show and have that

1537
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 4: determine whether you would suggest to keep watching it.

1538
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 2: I think so. Then, and then I wonder if his

1539
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 2: idea was is that we watch it together as a show,

1540
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: so they'd let us then they then they then let

1541
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 2: us know if it peaked their interest enough to continue

1542
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 2: watching or if it's a no go. I mean, I

1543
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,320
Speaker 2: do this all the time. I guess all you need

1544
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,599
Speaker 2: is for like Ze and I to start something at

1545
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: the same time. Here's the problem. We have very different

1546
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 2: paths in terms of how to consume. So the only

1547
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,479
Speaker 2: way you can really do this, mister camptastic, is to

1548
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,720
Speaker 2: find something that airs. It has to almost be like

1549
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 2: an HBO show that airs Sunday, because anything streaming or

1550
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: anything that doesn't release weekly you can binge it.

1551
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: And he's quick to binge.

1552
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: Well, right now he does not have the off field

1553
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,640
Speaker 2: obligations that I do. That'll change in a month. Y

1554
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 2: Right now he doesn't, so he has a little bit

1555
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 2: more free time, quite a little bit more free time

1556
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 2: as it stands. So that's the only thing. So I'm in.

1557
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,599
Speaker 2: I just think we have to find something that comes

1558
01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: on once a week and is only released once a week.

1559
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:46,320
Speaker 3: Fair enough? All right? That makes sense? Yeah, Trey carry

1560
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 3: tweets us and says, would you rather have five Cam

1561
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: Jordan's or ten Jordan Camerons? Want Cam Jordan?

1562
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 2: You want Cam Jordan.

1563
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 3: I don't think I need Jordan came Is.

1564
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 2: This similar to one man versus one hundred gorillas or

1565
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 2: one hundred one man?

1566
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 3: By the way, McNeil has tweeted out Vatican adds another

1567
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 3: name to the infamous starting pope since eighteen ninety nine, Jersey.

1568
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing social media right now.

1569
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 2: Is there's a big moment man first American pope.

1570
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Chicago jokes and everything that goes along

1571
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 3: with it.

1572
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 2: Where do you guys come down on Chicago style pizza?

1573
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's okay. I don't mind it.

1574
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 2: I don't think it's not pizza. I think it's like

1575
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 2: a casse role.

1576
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 3: You can make that argument, ca man like I like

1577
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:50,920
Speaker 3: trying it once.

1578
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: Is it really Chicago style, because like a buddy of

1579
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: mine is from Chicago. When we were there twice last

1580
01:23:57,880 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 2: summer for lacrosse, and I said, where should I eat?

1581
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,439
Speaker 2: Like where does Chicago people eat pizza? And and he's like,

1582
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: are you in the suburbs or downtown where youre at?

1583
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,520
Speaker 2: And I said, we're northern suburbs and he gave me Barnabies.

1584
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 2: Now Barnabes is like a paper thin crust, like almost

1585
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 2: not a cracker, almost on a cracker, which I loved.

1586
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: I loved it, and it was it was cut the

1587
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: way that most people in Ohio cut the square cut.

1588
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: Central Ohio is all square cut? Where is it? Most?

1589
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 2: Is it mostly pie here? Or square? Central Ohio is

1590
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 2: entirely square?

1591
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 3: Where is there big in Detroit?

1592
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 2: Okay? So there? So in Central Ohio it's you know,

1593
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 2: you still got a circular pizza, but they cut it

1594
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 2: in squares instead of pie cut. You'd have to ask

1595
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 2: for pie cut. In Central Ohio, they assume when you

1596
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: order a pizza, it's going to show up at your

1597
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 2: house pie cut or square cut unless you ask for

1598
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 2: pie And most I'm thinking, most of the pizza that

1599
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,320
Speaker 2: I get here is pie cut.

1600
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, very rarely, unless I'm getting a big

1601
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 3: pizza because there's a bunch of family in come.

1602
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a sheet pizza, like.

1603
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 3: The half sheet or whatever. Yeah, the case might be enough.

1604
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,000
Speaker 3: From the clown says, it's funny to hear Gibby talk

1605
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 3: about sixteen championship with some nostalgia because he's such a

1606
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 3: lebron heater. By the way, if you're listening correctly, I

1607
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 3: didn't talk about it with nostalgia. I said that the

1608
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 3: multiple fan base people you did, Yeah, did you use

1609
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 3: their number one?

1610
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 2: Did you love it in the moment or were you

1611
01:25:28,600 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: skeptical that he would leave again?

1612
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 3: Anyway, I mean it was a big moment. I can

1613
01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:36,640
Speaker 3: remember talking to my debt. So it's funny. I had

1614
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 3: to do the pregame show for espn uh huh uh

1615
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 3: for for Good Karma, And I did the pregame and

1616
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,720
Speaker 3: my high school buddies were at a bar down town,

1617
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 3: like hey, like, come meet us. I was at the studio,

1618
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 3: so I wrapped up and walked over and you know,

1619
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 3: because we had the network, because we had the broadcast, Like,

1620
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 3: I got out like thirty minutes before, you know, tip off.

1621
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,720
Speaker 3: So I get to the bar. It's an hour wait,

1622
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 3: and I can't even get near the door. It doesn't

1623
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 3: matter who I am or nothing, I couldn't get in. Yeah.

1624
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,679
Speaker 3: So I walked back to my car, I drove home.

1625
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:15,479
Speaker 3: I washed it at home.

1626
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 2: Did you really?

1627
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? I watched it. It was weird.

1628
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 2: It was pretty great myself. Probably pretty great though, Yeah,

1629
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 2: because that there was a lot that was that was

1630
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: as intense of a ringer as you could go through

1631
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 2: as a fan. Yeah, because it never really was. It

1632
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 2: was tight the whole way. It felt like every shot mattered.

1633
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,479
Speaker 3: I can remember. I didn't drink. I wasn't like having

1634
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 3: some cocktails on it. I was like I was into

1635
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 3: the game, you know, because I wanted my team to win.

1636
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 3: I wanted you know, the calves. I had just gotten married. Yeah,

1637
01:26:52,160 --> 01:26:55,800
Speaker 3: and it was it was awesome. It was awesome to watch.

1638
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 3: And then the next morning I had to go to

1639
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 3: the air when the plane came back, and I'm the

1640
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 3: one that had the lebron running down the thing with

1641
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 3: the trophy.

1642
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 2: That's something.

1643
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,920
Speaker 3: But I couldn't send it out. You couldn't get a

1644
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 3: phone signal anywhere because everybody and their brother was on

1645
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 3: their phone.

1646
01:27:12,680 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 2: Everybody for five days straight. Yeah, I mean it was. Yeah,

1647
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 2: it's an alzheimer. Yeah, it's absolutely an alzheimer.

1648
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,680
Speaker 3: I don't really it's a slow day here. I don't

1649
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:26,160
Speaker 3: know where everybody else is, but.

1650
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: Everyone else's dodge in the dodge in the well. Look,

1651
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 2: it's fifty. It's high fifties out there, a little bit

1652
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 2: of a little bit of gray. But I do think

1653
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: that we can add. So there's two bouts that ACCU

1654
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,760
Speaker 2: weather is having against weather Channel apps and ACI weather

1655
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 2: takes round one because it did rain and it is sixty.

1656
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:47,640
Speaker 2: Sixty was the high. It's cooler than that now, but

1657
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 2: it was sixty this morning, so they so far. Well,

1658
01:27:52,240 --> 01:27:55,559
Speaker 2: Sunday was the other big discrepancy. What do you have

1659
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:56,439
Speaker 2: Sunday now.

1660
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 3: For Mother's Day? I think it's come to do a little.

1661
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:04,639
Speaker 2: Bit because, yeah, you guys are saying seventies was what

1662
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:06,080
Speaker 2: you guys were saying for Sunday, and I was in

1663
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:06,759
Speaker 2: the sixties.

1664
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 3: I'm down to sunny skies sixty seven.

1665
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 2: Okay, so it's already adjusted. Yeah, mack, you weather has

1666
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 2: remained at sixty six and sunny.

1667
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 3: Don't like that. I mean, if no rain with the sun,

1668
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 3: it'll be pushing seventies.

1669
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: It'll feel like, Yeah, I mean we're we have no

1670
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,639
Speaker 2: no substantial rain here again until middle of next week.

1671
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 3: Thank god. I mow my loan. Yeah.

1672
01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people do. All right there you go,

1673
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 2: so much more to come. You listen to Cleveland Around

1674
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 2: Daily eight fifty ESPN.

1675
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:44,639
Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily presented by Bally Beck, an official

1676
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:47,759
Speaker 1: sports betting partner of your Cleveland Browns on eight fifty

1677
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: esp and Cleveland.

1678
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh Annie Agar who's at the UH Chicago

1679
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,080
Speaker 2: produced a pope before a quarterback three for four thousand yards.

1680
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 2: She's a Packers fan.

1681
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, she's thrown heaters today. I just told g

1682
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 3: Man and break because he's rattling off some things and

1683
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, today is one of those days where it's

1684
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 3: pretty entertaining on social media. Wins. Yeah, this one's a

1685
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 3: big win today. There's a lot of funny content out

1686
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 3: there right now.

1687
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 2: It's unprecedented stuff. Man, I've never had this American pope,

1688
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 2: Pope Leo the fourteenth. That's very great. That's a great

1689
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 2: American pope name Pope Leo.

1690
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 3: I wonder what goes in?

1691
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 2: Come on, Uncle Leo from Seinfeld.

1692
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 11: Hello, Jerry, Hello, gives My mom actually texted me telling

1693
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:52,000
Speaker 11: me that it goes into them, like changing their name

1694
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:56,280
Speaker 11: like that, tries to honor the saints and popes before them,

1695
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 11: to indicate what type of work they're going to do

1696
01:29:58,840 --> 01:29:59,439
Speaker 11: as pope.

1697
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 2: I wonder what Pope Leo represents Miss France, Francis Francis

1698
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: A Benedict and John Paul or the last three. So

1699
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 2: this is our fourth go at it.

1700
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 3: Hey, we have an American pope to win it is

1701
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 3: Do we have hoops tonight? We have hockey?

1702
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:23,120
Speaker 2: No, and we have no hoops? No, no, no, no,

1703
01:30:23,120 --> 01:30:25,960
Speaker 2: there is There is Golden State Minnesota's tonight. They staggered,

1704
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 2: but yet if you're curious if they're starting it, you

1705
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 2: know early no eight thirty on TNT for that one.

1706
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 2: There's hockey too.

1707
01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 3: Hurricanes, Caps, Oilers, Golden Knights. Yeah like that, Oilers, Golden Knights.

1708
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wish it wasn't on at nine thirty, but yeah,

1709
01:30:41,800 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 2: that's that's a pretty good one. So there you go.

1710
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:49,519
Speaker 2: Tomorrow we will be live outside for Rookie Mini Camp.

1711
01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 2: That will be fun. We encourage you to join us.

1712
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 2: We can also share with you at the next level

1713
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 2: is coming up next. Thanks for listen.

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