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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Southern Gothic the podcast and you can stream it at

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Speaker 2: Southern Gothicmedia dot com and the host storyteller audio engineer

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Speaker 2: Brendan schck Sneider. I want to take us down to

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Speaker 2: or are you? I want you to take us down

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Speaker 2: to Georgia and Lake Lanier. There's been some over.

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Speaker 3: The years, divers there have reported some pretty creepy things

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Speaker 3: beneath the murky waters. They talk about freaky catfish as

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Speaker 3: big as volkswagons and something like.

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Speaker 1: What was it?

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Speaker 2: The body count there is incredible. Since nineteen ninety four

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Speaker 2: up until about twenty twenty, there were over two hundred

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Speaker 2: people that died in that lake. What's happening?

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Speaker 4: It's much higher even now it was over six hundred

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Speaker 4: since it was created. Wow time, So it's fascinating, is it?

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Speaker 4: This is one of the stories that I think is

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Speaker 4: really caught on with Lakelaneer and the Curse of Lakelaneer.

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Speaker 4: It's one of the kind of modern ones that hasn't

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Speaker 4: been around for too long, but it's kind of built up. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: with a body count like this, how could it not,

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Speaker 4: you know? The lake. It was built. It's a man

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Speaker 4: made lake. It was it was built. They damned the

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Speaker 4: Chattahoochee River back in nineteen fifty six, right and in

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Speaker 4: doing this, it took about ten years to essentially purchase

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Speaker 4: all the farmland, all the bottom land out in the

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Speaker 4: Georgia Hills. This is right outside of Atlanta, and they

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Speaker 4: had planned on making this as like an aqueduct water

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Speaker 4: and hydroelectric power for the city of Atlanta. They knew

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Speaker 4: how much it was growing, and so they purchased all

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Speaker 4: this old all this farm land from all these farmers

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Speaker 4: didn't have a lot of money, and paid rock bottom

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Speaker 4: dollar for it as well, and they went ahead damned

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Speaker 4: the river, opened and opened the river. Excuse me, open

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Speaker 4: the dam. Closed the dam in nineteen fifty six, and

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Speaker 4: all those waters started rising on what used to be towns.

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Speaker 4: So today, as you mentioned, you know, scuba divers and

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Speaker 4: folks can go down there, and there is still structures

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Speaker 4: from back in the forties that are still there under

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Speaker 4: the waters of the lake. All that there's actually even

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Speaker 4: a drought. I want to believe it was in the

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Speaker 4: early two thousands where the water level was the lowest

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Speaker 4: it had been since the fifties and there were actually

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Speaker 4: some some things sticking out of the lake. There was

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Speaker 4: an old speedway that apparently had some stands sticking out

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Speaker 4: over by Gainesville. So people got really creeped out by

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Speaker 4: this to think about, you know, there's a city under

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Speaker 4: the lake. But you know, obviously it has earned this reputation.

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Speaker 4: It's a very deadly lake. Just this past year alone,

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Speaker 4: I know, there's about a half dozen people actually passed

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Speaker 4: away on the lake a different reasons. Some drowned, one

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Speaker 4: was electrocuted this year. So a very lethal lake. Whether

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Speaker 4: that's of this curse that might have might have occurred,

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Speaker 4: or whether or not it's you know, kind of you know,

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Speaker 4: we like our hillbilly fun out there on the lake,

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Speaker 4: so who knows if it's a little bit of hold

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Speaker 4: my beer as well.

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Speaker 1: The lake.

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Speaker 4: You know, the lake is definitely a place you don't

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Speaker 4: want to go. Now. There's a couple theories why it's cursed,

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Speaker 4: you know, why we've had all this this dead you know.

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Speaker 4: One of them, of course, is that at the bottom

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Speaker 4: going down, you can find that that there are these

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Speaker 4: old cemeteries down there at the bottom of the lake,

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Speaker 4: and supposedly the Army Corps of Engineers, they were supposed

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Speaker 4: to move all of these interred bodies because you don't

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Speaker 4: consider that sacred, done all the way out other cemeteries,

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Speaker 4: and today you can go to some of the cemeteries

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Speaker 4: some of the tombs there. Some of the plots were

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Speaker 4: folks who were moved from what would have been under

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Speaker 4: of it. And some of those plots, of course, would

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Speaker 4: have been little family cemeteries right just on their properties.

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Speaker 4: So maybe they missed a few, maybe they didn't. And

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Speaker 4: for years folks talked about Lake Lanier was cursed to

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Speaker 4: the that and the way that described I'm sorry, Richard, no, no, no, you.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, continue to continue on.

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Speaker 4: They described with this curse which people would be swimming

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Speaker 4: it's a very lethal lake. You know, there's there's there's

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Speaker 4: other theories at the same time, this is this is

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Speaker 4: one of those stories that's that's flux right now. It's

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Speaker 4: in flux as to how people are interpreting this curse.

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Speaker 4: For a long time, it was we didn't we didn't

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Speaker 4: that was the main one, that the cemetery is under there.

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Speaker 4: This was land that way. But since that time it's evolved.

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Speaker 4: It's evolved with people's understanding of the property and what's underneath.

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Speaker 4: Because underneath that lake, one of those towns is a

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Speaker 4: town called Oscarville, and back in the nineteen twenties, Oscarville

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Speaker 4: in time it was. It was a lot of sharecropping

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Speaker 4: But back in the twenties, there was a crime committed.

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Speaker 4: A young woman, a young white woman, was raped, and

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Speaker 4: of course it was an unfortunately classic Southern story we

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Speaker 4: hear far too often during that time period of a gentleman,

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Speaker 4: a gentleman from Oscarville was believed to have committed the crime.

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Speaker 4: And over the course of the next month, the community

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Speaker 4: lot of events that led up to this final just ultimate, horrific,

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Speaker 4: you're familiar with the Black Wall Street. What happened there,

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Speaker 4: might be part of that as well, and that's something

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Speaker 4: that's a more modern giving. And we see that because

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Speaker 2: So there is a legend of a ghost of a

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Speaker 2: Tell me about her.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, Yeah, this is an old ghost story that's

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Speaker 4: been around there for a while. So the curse is

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Speaker 4: a little relatively new. But you know, when the lake

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Speaker 4: they were having drownings in the lake. Okay, I mean

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Speaker 4: as as the early fifties, there already had a scuba

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Speaker 4: But in nineteen fifty eight was when this particular one happened.

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Speaker 4: There was two women, women by the name of Deliamate

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Speaker 4: they had the dive team come out. Everybody's come out

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Speaker 4: A thirty one years passed with no resolution whatsoever. But

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Speaker 4: very tattered dress. It's just falling apart. They say, it

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Speaker 4: looks awful. And as they get close they realize that

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Speaker 4: very ominous spirit at that point in time, and years

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Speaker 4: in that but after thirty years do pass by. Eventually.

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Speaker 4: find that this was Susie Roberts. This was one of

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Speaker 4: And you know, now this was certainly something to celebrate

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Speaker 4: that's what folks believe. They say that that lady in

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Speaker 4: like going to cemetery. Sorry, Richard, It's something I grew

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Speaker 2: Just y I enjoyed it too. I enjoy it too.

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Speaker 4: It's wonderful. It's you know, whether whether it's a haunting

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Speaker 4: And we went out and we looked around and we

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Speaker 4: that point in time, you know, she had she had

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Speaker 4: At this point, he was in his seventies. But there

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Speaker 2: When they when they found her body in the Ford Coop,

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Speaker 4: Exactly, Well, that's what that's exactly what they discovered is

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously she even picked apart pretty badly by

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Speaker 4: some of the creatures down there, so her body was again,

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Speaker 2: Did you ever take a swim in Lake Lanier? I

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Speaker 2: will believe, would you, now, Richard, No, not a chance.

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Speaker 4: Not a chance, I'll tell you. You know, I think

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Speaker 4: it's up for debate, you know how much what is

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