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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Rebel Boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: I'm a little happier, saying the sun is out, it's

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Speaker 1: I'm doing well. It's been a I think a positive

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Speaker 1: week of college football news and events, and we almost

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Speaker 1: decided to record this show as an emergency podcast, but

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Speaker 1: All good pieces of advice. So let's talk about signing

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Speaker 1: day real quick, because technically this is signing day, correct.

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Speaker 1: Decembers is early signing Day, but early signing Day has

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Speaker 3: Do you miss the days of just one big old

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Speaker 1: Yes, I kind of do.

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Speaker 1: I understand what the early enrollees and everything to get

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Speaker 3: Did I see that Alabama now has the highest rated

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Speaker 1: You did? You did see that? And huh. I don't

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Speaker 1: Seeing twenty six commitments right.

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Speaker 3: Now, how many teams would they beat?

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Speaker 1: The distribution is actually pretty good. It's really good, right,

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Speaker 3: Okay, so pre solid teams, some guys out of position,

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Speaker 1: So are they getting a full spring and summer workout

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Speaker 1: that you've created out of thin air. Yes, they would

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Speaker 1: beat probably as true freshmen. I don't know, forty five

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Speaker 2: they beat Miami? They could beat Miami.

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Speaker 1: Waitin you think a team primarily of true freshmen with

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Speaker 3: Why not?

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Speaker 1: Miami has older players who've played in many college football games,

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Speaker 3: Here, that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Here, here's the Bama's schedule. There's AAMA schedule.

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Speaker 1: What's one of the most outlandish things you've ever said.

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Speaker 3: That's fine, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Miami I love it, Miami, Mercer at Florida, Southern Miss,

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Speaker 1: I mean, okay, so what let me pull up their

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Speaker 3: That is the inspiration for this. If I'm being honest

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Speaker 1: I understand twenty twenty one Alabama schedule. I'm looking it

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Speaker 1: A and M. I don't know what the quarterback situation

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Speaker 1: looks like at Mississippi State. But that's an improved defense

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Speaker 1: trouble and they'll probably lose that game. Tennessee is thin,

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Speaker 1: but I imagine I don't know who's starting at quarterback

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Speaker 1: don't know his eligibility right now.

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Speaker 3: They are definitely getting to Bowl eligibility.

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Speaker 1: Who is there not? Are they beating LSU? Are they

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Speaker 1: winning at Auburn? Are they beating Arkansas? Is Arkansas the

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Speaker 1: one game you've circled.

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Speaker 3: They beat them.

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Speaker 2: It's actually a pretty tough They beat Arkansas. I think

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Speaker 2: they fifty two to three.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so they beat him last year. You see

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Speaker 1: no experience Alabama true freshman as a whole taking down.

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Speaker 3: This class ever as a whole, need to.

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Speaker 1: Get this class ever, I hear you, I hear you.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Bowl eligibility as my my over under.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'd be Bow eligible. I don't think there.

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Speaker 1: I can't defend a clear win in the SEC.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not sure I can't either. We haven't seen any.

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Speaker 1: You proposing Alabama high schoolers beating Miami took my breath away,

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Speaker 2: That's great, solid at gmail dot com. Any other recruiting

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Speaker 3: Let's get to the news. News still not yelling it.

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Speaker 1: Dan, I'm back.

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Speaker 2: They are bringing the game back after all these years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're gonna get the game again at some

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Speaker 2: the floodgates on using actual player names. I do think, though,

442
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: that we don't fully know timelines here right. They could

443
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: potentially put a game out next summer, and NIL is

444
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: not going to be far enough along that it facilitates

445
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: putting players in the game. Now, we're in a different

446
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: spot now than we were back in twenty thirteen, the

447
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: last time they released a game. You can build a

448
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: game almost completely separately. You could back then, but you

449
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: can do so even to a greater degree. Now you

450
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 2: can build a game technically speaking, completely separate from the

451
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: players and the content within the game, because everyone's connected

452
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: to the internet now and you just turn on your system,

453
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: it beams it up to the cloud, it pulls it

454
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: all down, and suddenly you've got a different game experience,

455
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 2: entirely different game experience.

456
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: So I think they can build this in a way.

457
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: Where even if you don't have actual players or actual

458
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: stuff in the game that is representative of an authentic experience,

459
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 2: you can build the game in a way that the

460
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: folks on the other end can flip a switch whenever

461
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: it's safe to do so, and bam, your content's going

462
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,959
Speaker 2: to be updated. You will have the authentic experience. So

463
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 2: I think this gives them the latitude to build the

464
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 2: game they want to build, and they can do so

465
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Speaker 2: in a manner that keeps them safe from a legal

466
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 2: standpoint and also future proofs it to some extent to

467
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 2: put the actual authentic experience in the game at a

468
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 2: moment's notice.

469
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Speaker 1: Do you think they'll continue to let people modify names

470
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: and positions, Well, that's that fun stuff now.

471
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't remember the full details of the court cases

472
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: the first time around, but I seem to recall. It

473
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 2: wasn't so much geared around the fact that you could

474
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 2: modern roster to be pretty a pretty close sample of

475
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: your teams. I think it was the fact that they

476
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:41,200
Speaker 2: proved in the court of law having the announcers say

477
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: all of the last names, associate those with any modifications

478
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 2: that showed some amount of intent to like skirt rules,

479
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: and so maybe they just don't do that part of it.

480
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't get Brad Nessler or Kirk k Herbstreet

481
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 2: or Chris Fowler.

482
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: To say uhiyan gal Lay.

483
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a massive one, right.

484
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: Like you had that the last time around, And I

485
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 2: guess that wasn't Honky Dory.

486
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: Well, I can clearly specifically at O'Bannon was in a

487
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: video game, right, I'm like a Classics NCAA basketball of

488
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 1: some year.

489
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but a.

490
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: Lot of these games now you can still do the

491
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: create a player thing. Mmm, they just may not say

492
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: their name. I don't think there's any reason that I

493
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 2: know of that you couldn't put custom guys in.

494
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 3: The game and play with them.

495
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 2: And I'm sure it would take a lot of work,

496
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: but my guess is that there are still some ways

497
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: around that role even if it's not officially official that

498
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: you can roll with the actual rosters.

499
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: So officially, do you want this to be a tear

500
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: it down to the studs, fully renovated NC doublea college

501
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: football it's college whatever, college football, a sports college football experience,

502
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,200
Speaker 1: or do you want them to build upon the twenty

503
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: fourteen game with just you know, if you're playing it

504
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: on PS five or whatever. The new Xbox is updating

505
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: engines to build upon the new technology that EA has

506
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: access to. Do you want it? Does it need a

507
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: big overhaul in terms of how the game plays and feels?

508
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: I know people are pretty split as far as I

509
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: can tell from Afar on how Madden plays, and it's

510
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: obviously a different engine. What do you want to see

511
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: in terms of what the game is itself?

512
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question. And like I said, i've been.

513
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: I've been just for fun streaming versions of the old game,

514
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: streaming a dynasty of the old game out on the

515
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: Twitch channel. But one of the things that I found

516
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: after picking it up after all these years is that

517
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: it holds up pretty well for a lot of games

518
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 3: that don't. Yeah, this one does. They're quirks, right, they're guys.

519
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 3: Who run through other players and drop passes and weird

520
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 3: penalties and like stuff that you find in a lot

521
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 3: of video games that.

522
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: Just know they're always tweaks to be made.

523
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they couldn't patch it back then the way they

524
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: can now, because again everything's connected to the Internet. But

525
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,439
Speaker 2: I think the game holds up really well now that

526
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: being said, I have played the newer versions of Madden Yeah,

527
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 2: and my biggest takeaway the reasons that I stopped playing

528
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: those games is selfishly, there're too many freaking buttons, Yeah,

529
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: to any controls aggressive catch, triangle, conservative catch, circle, normal

530
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: catch and fall down X sidebar.

531
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: TI and I were a combined something like seventy six

532
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: years old at this point, so we have our ceilings.

533
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 3: We do and I am.

534
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 2: We're both technically inclined, so it's not like this is

535
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 2: information overload that we can't process it, that we can't

536
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 2: understand it. But you reach a certain point where it's like, oh, okay, okay,

537
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: Like can I just hit the corresponding shape of the

538
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 2: open receiver and expect him to do the work for me.

539
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: You're asking for a slower old person mode that you

540
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: can run when you first install the game.

541
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: Yes, I am.

542
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: I would love that. That's my sincere desire that there

543
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: are different difficulty levels, not of how hard your opponent is,

544
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: but how difficult the gameplay is. That I would love.

545
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really hard for me to say that and

546
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: at the same time be somebody who is super competitive

547
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 2: and wants to go online and wants to play the

548
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 2: best possible people and see how I do, and knowing

549
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: that the one or four button mode is probably not

550
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: gonna suffice anymore. Right, So that was my biggest gripe

551
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: with the Madden stuff. But beyond that, the graphics, the gameplay,

552
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: everything about the newer versions is super cool. It's just

553
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: for me, the controls got so friggin difficult and complex

554
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 2: that it took a little bit of the lost are

555
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: off of it for me.

556
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: I'd like to see. I mean, there are some obvious

557
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: tweaks improvements redos from twenty fourteen, just in terms of

558
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: where the game has come these last is it seven

559
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: years because twenty fourteen was released in twenty thirteen, right,

560
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: so seven eight years since the last version. RPOs are

561
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: a major thing in college football, not so much in

562
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: the NCAA football series. Curious to see how that works. Out.

563
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: There have been uniform changes, stadium changes, style changes, teams

564
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: that were very strong that not so strong now, And

565
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 1: obviously some of that stuff can be modified in the

566
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: rosters and recruiting. Do you want more of the administrative

567
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: stuff because I had a stretch where I really liked

568
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: the building a dynasty and recruiting, and I just I

569
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 1: don't know now that I will have the time to

570
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: devote to sitting on my couch for forty five minutes

571
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: and recruiting. Like I'm just I think I'm skewing much

572
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: more towards playing my friends online, maybe going through a

573
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: season with a team or two, but not fully devoting

574
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: myself to the from start to finish program building.

575
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: Well, there there are a couple things that I that

576
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 2: I would point out on that for that's a me thing.

577
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, there are a couple things that I point out.

578
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: Instantly upon hearing this news that there's going to be

579
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: a new game, everybody in their uncle rushes to Twitter

580
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: and posts what they want to.

581
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 3: See in the new games.

582
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 2: And of course you have people like, oh, we need

583
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: to have the unruly boosters or sanctions.

584
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: They're not going to put that in.

585
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: The game, right, Transfer transfer portal is interesting.

586
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: The transfer portal was in the last game. Maybe not

587
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: with quite the transfer Yeah, with quite the pomp and circumstance.

588
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: Like transfers a mediate eligibility.

589
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they could do a whole bunch of stuff there.

590
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: But if you think for one second that they've waited

591
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 2: nearly a decade to build a new game and they're

592
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: going to put illegal boosters in this one, I don't

593
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 2: think so. I just cuts a little too close to

594
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: the bone.

595
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 1: And no, less it's unlicensed.

596
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: If it's on license, then they could do whatever they.

597
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: Want Wild Wild West, Yeah, but I don't.

598
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: I don't expect we're going to be seeing hundred dollars

599
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: handshakes as part of Right Party. I think that's all

600
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: tongue in cheek.

601
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 3: This new system, this new game.

602
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: I I think that the administrative side of it is interesting,

603
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 2: and if history is any guide, they give you the

604
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: option to play some of those modes if you want to,

605
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 2: you can switch on some of that stuff. But I

606
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: think I agree with you to the extent of like,

607
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: do you really want to play as an athletic director?

608
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

609
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: Do you really want to worry about hiring a social

610
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 3: media staff that that sort of stuff.

611
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: And some people do. Some people with that one year

612
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: NFL Coach game that put out right.

613
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: I just don't.

614
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if that encompasses the vast majority of

615
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: people who would play this, of course not, of course not.

616
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: I think the real lift would be on the recruiting side.

617
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: And I take your point. You don't want to spend

618
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: forty five minutes recruiting. You wouldn't necessarily have to if

619
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 2: they made it a little bit smarter than it was

620
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: the first time. But recruiting, in my view, was really

621
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: the secret sauce of that of that old game. You know,

622
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 2: your ability to kind of craft a team and work

623
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: around certain pitches and advantages that your school had. I

624
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: think you could really beef up the recruiting that was

625
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 2: kind of the game within the game.

626
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: Ty what's wrong? Tye? Tye, Kate. I just lost Jeremy

627
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: Johnson to Georgia Tech, and I do not want to

628
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: talk about it. I tried to sell him on early

629
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: playing time and it's not what he wanted and everything

630
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: is bad. Sorry.

631
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: They definitely need to build in some.

632
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: Like restrictor plate thing so that all your guys don't

633
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: get to ninety nine's because that was the thing with

634
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 2: the old series. And look, I'm playing right now as Navy.

635
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: My team sucks. But if you give it like three years,

636
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm going to have a team full of ninety five.

637
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: I've rated play and you're so charming and so such

638
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: a good developer of talent.

639
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: Exact in haevitable exactly.

640
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: We're going to switch it up to the air raid

641
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: and you know it's going to be a team of

642
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 2: nineties that will happen, So they need they need to

643
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: throttle that back a little bit. To answer your question,

644
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: I would be cool if they put a little bit

645
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: more thought into the recruiting side of things, and if

646
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: they allowed us to play a very similar game to

647
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: what we saw last time, but with a twenty twenty

648
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: one or twenty twenty two spin on it. The other

649
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: thing I want to add when it comes to game

650
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 2: modes is something that did not get a whole lot

651
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: of fanfare the last time around, that would definitely be

652
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: highlighted in whatever new version they put into effect.

653
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: Here, they've since put a lot of time and.

654
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 2: Energy into Ultimate Team Mode, all right, And what Ultimate

655
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: Team mote is, as I've come to understand it through

656
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: my terrible FIFA playing is it mode where you can

657
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: basically build your own team and you complete objectives.

658
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: If you want to throw money at it, you can.

659
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: Most of us like real money, right, like real money. Yeah?

660
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't generally, but a lot.

661
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: Of people do generally.

662
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I've been known to here and there.

663
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: How much of your entertainment budget?

664
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 3: Not that?

665
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 1: Not that digital soccer players, I didn't.

666
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 2: I didn't go golfing at all this year, so we

667
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: threw a look at of that at this parent enough.

668
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: The point here is that you can do things to

669
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: earn coins in a game, and then you could dedicate

670
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: some of those coins to improving your team and building

671
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: a roster. This was actually in that old version of

672
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 2: the NCAA series. I didn't know about it then because

673
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: I was playing an online dynasty with my friends other

674
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: single guys in their twenties. At the time, this was

675
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: like the thing to do. But now they've got this

676
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: mode where it wouldn't necessarily require you to do the

677
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: recruiting if you didn't want to. My guess is they

678
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: would have to retain that online dynasty.

679
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: Because it was a hit.

680
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: But there was also this ultimate team angle that they've

681
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 2: played up with Madden and with FIFA and some other

682
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: titles where that would be the engine that earns them

683
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 2: the money. You know, we may not have current players

684
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: that we could fall back on, might not be able

685
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: to get Tyler Alex Henry.

686
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Alex Henry is what you need late era two thousands

687
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 1: of Nebraska Kicker with a boot.

688
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: But right, you could complete a couple objectives. Yeah, and

689
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: if you save.

690
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: Up enough coins, maybe you could buy Mason Rudolph for

691
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: your team.

692
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: Right.

693
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: Stuff like that bring old players and some iconic college

694
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: football stars back into the game. I think we'll see

695
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: that out of an Ultimate Team mode, because I know

696
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 2: that they can earn money off that.

697
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: If this game comes out, let's call it August of

698
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two of twenty twenty three, presumably next gen

699
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: consoles will be less than they are now. I'm seeing

700
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: if you want to buy a PS five right now

701
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 1: on the secondary market, you're paying more than seven hundred dollars.

702
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot.

703
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: Retail is either four or five hundred based on digital

704
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 1: or disc models. Is this the presence of this game,

705
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: and let's say it scratches you where you itch in

706
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: terms of licensing teams and players and has the feel

707
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 1: of the old game to a relatively reasonable extent. Are

708
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: you shelling out five or six hundred bucks for PS

709
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: five or what's if a series X is the new Xbox?

710
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't know.

711
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds right, Okay, something like that. Are you

712
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 1: spending that much money? I know you like FIFA, but

713
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: basically for the right to play FIFA and EA sports

714
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: college football? Are you making that investment tie without children?

715
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: Keep in mind, I think it's pretty apparent from a

716
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: lot of what I've said that I've got a lot

717
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 2: of knowledge and passion.

718
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 1: Around this topic. Yeah, of course, So I will wait till.

719
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: The PS five is a little more readily available.

720
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: You're a PlayStation guy, though, I'm a.

721
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: PlayStation Xbox okay, PlayStation guy, but I will I will

722
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: wait till it's a little bit more available.

723
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: It's easy for me to say yes, I'll buy.

724
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: It because I don't have kids, and uh, you know,

725
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: it's just the solid wife and I. So for me,

726
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: it's not as big a lift as it might be

727
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: for some folks.

728
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 3: Out there who I know, are you know played the game.

729
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: They're in their forties now, they've got a family and

730
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: other responsibilities.

731
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll find that they'll find ways, they will

732
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 3: find way.

733
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 2: I think this is a draw for that demo, to

734
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 2: be perfectly honest with you, may I put the old

735
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: video game system away, Like where are you at?

736
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 3: Have you? Have you played PlayStation recently? Would you play

737
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: PlayStation if you found out that you could get your

738
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 3: hands on this.

739
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: The big thing for me is because I didn't. I

740
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: liked playing random people online and making them quit. Not

741
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: that I was amazing, but I was okay, And that

742
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: was always fun getting people annoyed, then getting that PlayStation message,

743
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: Yeah afterwards, you don't know what you're doing. Just beat

744
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: him twenty eight to three. I like playing with people

745
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: in person, and that's trickier now that I've moved around,

746
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: I've globe trotted a little bit. I don't necessarily know

747
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: if I have somebody I want to play in Cuba

748
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: football with on the same couch right now. Shout out

749
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: to Jody. She's great, but not a gamer. So I

750
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 1: used to play with my brother all the time in Brooklyn.

751
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: He was very fun to play against. He went to Washington,

752
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: he played as you know, the Huskies. I played as

753
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: the Ducks. It was really fun. And so we would

754
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: play all the time together, and obviously that was, you know,

755
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: before having a little guy in the household. So I am.

756
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say for sure that I'm going

757
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: to get it, But once I see gameplay, once I

758
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: see the architecture of the game in terms of real teams,

759
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, I think it's likely that

760
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to get it. Because you need lurges in life, Ty,

761
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: you need weird solo hobbies in life, and I can

762
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: play against you. I can play against the verbalers who

763
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: are part of our Patreon team. I can do all

764
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: that kind of fun stuff. So I'm gonna say probably

765
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: as where I believe it.

766
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting draw. It's a reason for

767
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: a lot of folks who might otherwise be out of

768
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: it to at least consider it.

769
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 3: But it's not cheap, and it's too heavy a lift

770
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: for a lot of folks. I certainly get that.

771
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: But there's a draw here, and it's a game with

772
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: a cult following still, So okay, I think we're like

773
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: minded here. We're both pretty excited about this. We don't

774
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 2: really have much in the way of details around timing.

775
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: We don't know when this is.

776
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 3: Going to come out. So we've seen some articles written.

777
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: The Athletic went all in for when It's Worth on

778
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: EA Sports College football article. As a friend Nicole Auerbach

779
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 2: wrote about it. There were Ari Wasserman, who he had

780
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: on the live stream, talked about how we'd like to

781
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: see recruiting overhaul. They really went all in on this,

782
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: which is cool, good to see, but we still don't

783
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 2: know a timeline for it. The name, image and likeness

784
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: bit of this is gonna get asked. I would imagine

785
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: a thousand times over between now and whatever they decide

786
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: to release this game. But sure we have shows that

787
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: we will do this offseason about NIL legislation, but NIL

788
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: essentially unlocks players from that previous like system where they

789
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: couldn't earn anything off of their name, couldn't do any

790
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: marketing right. We did talk about this a little bit

791
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: and said that, well, it seems like the easiest way

792
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: to perhaps go about earning something off your name would

793
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: be Instagram posts, right, Like, you got a big social

794
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: Instagram posts, you could earn some money off that. But

795
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: now this is a bit of a Pandora's box. What

796
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: do the players ultimately earn anything off of this? I

797
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: think you start waiting into players association territory.

798
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: Or somebody's going to have to negotiate on their behalf.

799
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, some organizing body that would have to organize on

800
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: their behalf and collect and figure out what their cut

801
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: of the royalties would be. So even if NIL gets passed,

802
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: I don't think EA Sports would want to be in

803
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: the position of having to negotiate with individual players every year.

804
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 3: They would need to go through some governing body in order.

805
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: To do that, And I don't know when NIL happens.

806
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: I think it's going to happen soon. But to get

807
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: that organizational structure that could then in turn negotiate with

808
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: an EA Sports that strikes me as something that's going

809
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: to take a while. So I think we're very likely

810
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: to see a game before we're going to see actual players,

811
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: current players in the game.

812
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: You agree with that, I do agree, And I also

813
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: think they're not going to make the game as obviously

814
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: based on current players. Like if there were an NCAA

815
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one that came out last year, Clemson's quarterback

816
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: would not have been Tyler Logins with a long, shaggy

817
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: haircut at six six, with a giant arm in NFL prospects.

818
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: I think it will be disguised a little bit more

819
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: if it's sort of still based on how it was

820
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: based last time around.

821
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 3: You don't need to put names on the guys.

822
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: I guess not. You can just go by numbers, go

823
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: to the KEB Eagles route. What type of player are

824
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: you in terms of playbook strategy? Are you big on

825
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: reading a defense and calling a bunch of audibles and

826
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: using motion to try to disguise Are you a big

827
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: I have my script plays. I like to follow up

828
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: other plays with you. Do adhere to certain sensibilities on

829
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 1: either side of the ball as a player or are

830
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: you giving away too much by answering this question accurately.

831
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm giving away a little too much, but I'm gonna

832
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: do it because we're all friends here.

833
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true.

834
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm very good.

835
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: To be To be honest, it's difficult to be very

836
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: good at this game. You have to play it a lot.

837
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: I have watched YouTube videos of guys who will tell

838
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: you how to set up your defense or how to

839
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: set up your offense based on a defense, and it

840
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: strikes me as even more complicated than the real thing.

841
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 2: With buttons and hot roots, and that's a little that's

842
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: a little much for me. You have to spend a

843
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 2: lot more time than I'm willing to spend to get

844
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: to that point.

845
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: I like to pass. I like to pass, and so

846
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: I have.

847
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: I've gotten at least better in the old version of

848
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: the game at figuring out after I snap the ball

849
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: who I can throw to who should be open. Now

850
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: with my current Navy setup, nobody can get open because

851
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: my tight ends like a fifty nine overalls.

852
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 3: My guys are terrible.

853
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: They all do four tough borlands going out for passes.

854
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 2: There's just they're not creating a whole lot of separation.

855
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,839
Speaker 2: The fastest guys got like eighty speed. But yeah, I

856
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 2: think I can in general read a defense and figure

857
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: out where man coverages and and who's going to be

858
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: open in a zone in a hole, and.

859
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 3: That I can do. What I can't really do is

860
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 3: play defense.

861
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: It's tough.

862
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: I just.

863
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: Defense is not really something I enjoy a whole lot

864
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 2: of I guess I could sim it. I try not

865
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: to to play it, honestly, Who.

866
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: Will you select on a defense to play as which position?

867
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: Well?

868
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 2: I used to select back in the in the real.

869
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: Hey days when you can just blast through the offensive line.

870
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 2: I used to pick one of the dn okay and

871
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: do like a little swim move, a little shimmy something

872
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: to get around right those tackles, then go and sack

873
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: the quarterback. But then at some point I switched up

874
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: to being a bit of linebacker.

875
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 3: Gives me a little bit more control.

876
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: That backfires because the middle linebacker can't just blitz every down.

877
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: A lot of times he's got to drop into coverage

878
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: and he's got responsibilities in the passing game, and I never.

879
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: Really fulfill those.

880
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: So there's always a guy open, and when you play

881
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: at the higher difficulty levels, they find those guys.

882
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Do you have a preferred alignment? Do you have a

883
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: preferred base on defense, even though you're not good at it?

884
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: Well, I'm usually a four to three defense, but usually

885
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: playing out of the nickel because you have play Yeah,

886
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: I got to play out of nickel. You know, some

887
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: of the better guys like to play as a safety.

888
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 2: I'm sure the safety center field.

889
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 3: Play center field. Again.

890
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 2: Too many responsibilities in the passing game, yeah, and I'm

891
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: just not good enough as a manual defender to.

892
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: Embark upon that.

893
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, defense is not my strength. The controls in

894
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: the newer games that I've played have been a real issue, and.

895
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: So there we'll see.

896
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: We'll see what this new game looks like and how

897
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,879
Speaker 2: closely it mirrors some of the newer versions of Mad.

898
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: My guess is it's going to be a lot like Mad.

899
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: That's I mean, that would be dumb not to be.

900
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 3: But we'll see.

901
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: And you think, like at that difficulty level.

902
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 3: I think so. I think I think it'll be very

903
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: close to the current versions.

904
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: Of Madden, because they will do the passing cone, do

905
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: they No.

906
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: There's no more passing cone thing.

907
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: Okay. I saw that and I was like, well, I'm

908
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: doing Madden. I tried it once. I was like, Nope,

909
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: not doing this. Not going to learn how to do this.

910
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: Don't want to do what it takes to be comfortable

911
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 1: with this. Thank you very much, Madden. I'm good.

912
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 2: The passing cone that was a dark era. That was

913
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 2: We try to forget that as best we can.

914
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: I'll operate out of I'll try to find blitz packages

915
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: that send different guys from different angles. I try to

916
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: be mysterious with my blitzing.

917
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: As a quarterback.

918
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: I do see ghosts. I don't see ghost as much

919
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: as I stare down guys far too much. You find

920
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: find a couple of route combinations and a couple of audibles,

921
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: and you tend to always just like, well, this guy

922
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: is going to be open much more often than not.

923
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: You get yourself into trouble. At least I get myself

924
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: into trouble. I get cocky staring down receivers four verts?

925
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: Are you a four verts guy?

926
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: I am? I will run some four verts and call

927
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: some audibles with where guys are going. You know, you

928
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: mess around with some crossers, and you know, if you

929
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: have a pretty speedy roster, you can do pretty you know,

930
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: a good amount of damage if a team likes playing

931
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: a little bit too much man with running a bunch

932
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: of crossers. Uh the you know, the unguardable running back

933
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: route where he sort of flares out and then cuts

934
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: back in real quick. Yeah, always good on a third

935
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: and four. Yeah yeah, it's almost unstoppable because you're either

936
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: getting an outside linebacker and man coverage or you're getting

937
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: an inside linebacker who just is not covering his zone

938
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,359
Speaker 1: all that well, So that's always fun. And I try

939
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: not to run too much. I'll run a lot of

940
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: outside Zone just because it's relatively successful. At least it

941
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 1: was in twenty fourteen running with a team like Oregon,

942
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: who was running pretty well back then. Otherwise, the really

943
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: fun thing about playing and I don't know how often

944
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: you played like your friend Feldman or East Coast Eli

945
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: or any of these guys, I don't know how often

946
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: you played them specifically. I like playing my brother a

947
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: lot because I would learn his tendencies. I would learn

948
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: that I could just drop back in quarters on a

949
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: third and long and he really struggled. I learned that

950
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: if I have a different disguise for cover two earlier

951
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: on in passing downs, earlier on in drives, he'd have

952
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: some he'd have some struggles. When you get the tendencies,

953
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: that's what's really fun, when you just have your roster

954
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: of like, Okay, these are my seven beaters right here.

955
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: I like that.

956
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they would have to make sure that they pull

957
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: some kind of online dynasty mode back in. If they

958
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: could find a way to mesh the recruiting bit of

959
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: it with the ultimate team bit of it, that would

960
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: be pretty cool. Sure, you know, there's just so much

961
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: more that they could do in this new era of

962
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 2: the game. I think they have to steer into though

963
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: playing with your friends. Playing with your friends was kind

964
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: of like a guiding precept of the old one. We

965
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: had a huge online dynasty, again, a bunch of single

966
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: guys in their twenties, and.

967
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: I, of course me.

968
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: Kept the spreadsheet of who played whom, kept the scores,

969
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: and then I would try to see if I could

970
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 2: guess what the point spread would be. And there may

971
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: have been some money changing hands on some of these

972
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: games because we had about of course, I mean there has.

973
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: We had like seven or eight guys that were in

974
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: on this at one point, and my friend Feldman was

975
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: the ten thousand pound gorilla in the room.

976
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: No one could beat Feldman. There would play as he

977
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 3: played as well.

978
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 2: It didn't matter right after just yeah they had his

979
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 2: system eventually. Yeah, after you played a certain number of

980
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 2: years and won like ten games a year, you would

981
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: have all nineties, so it didn't really matter.

982
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: His system was much more of a pro style, to

983
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: be honest with you, was more Wisconsin then, I would

984
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 3: say Texas Tech.

985
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have a team that you played with

986
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: at some point in the last I guess twenty years

987
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: now that you felt you were particularly dominant with this

988
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: year's this team is there that that roster that team.

989
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,280
Speaker 3: Well, again, I'll go back to the online dynasty.

990
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 2: There was one player in particular that we still speak about,

991
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: Leon Johnson in.

992
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 3: Hushed revered tones. Okay, on the text threads with my friends.

993
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: Leon Johnson, dual threat quarterback, played for the Penn State

994
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 3: and Nitney Lyons when I was commandeering.

995
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: The did you recruit him?

996
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: I did recruit him, started him as a true freshman.

997
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: And he was wordy to go to fake high school.

998
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 3: I don't remember.

999
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 1: It's too bad.

1000
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 3: I don't remember where.

1001
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Taller guy, smaller, faster.

1002
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about six y four, about six', four about

1003
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 2: two twenty, five had, wheels could, run was a bull

1004
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 2: more of A Jalen hurts, type or he would run

1005
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: you over as opposed to a jitterbug back there who

1006
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,439
Speaker 2: would try and put moves on you and he would

1007
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 2: bull you over for that first.

1008
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 3: Down And leon AND i had four good.

1009
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: Years what version of the game was?

1010
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 3: THIS i think this.

1011
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: Was this would have to have been twenty, thirteen, yeah twenty,

1012
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 2: thirty twenty, okay, yeah to release in twenty, thirteen BUT ncaa.

1013
00:51:58,360 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 3: Fourteen so the latest.

1014
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: VERSION i remember essentially forcing one of my college roommates

1015
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: into submission who refused to play ME ncaa two thousand and,

1016
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: three two thousand and four somewhere in, there which every

1017
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: year featured A usc team With Matt lionert quote, Unquote

1018
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: Matt leonard quote, Unquote Mike, williams who you could just

1019
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: send on go routes and he's, giant AND i want

1020
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: to Say Steve smith was on that. Team there was

1021
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: an unreal is this Pre Reggie bush possibly we might

1022
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: be talking About Herschel dennis in one of his eleven

1023
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: years FOR. Usc but the passing attack there where you

1024
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: want to defend the deeper ball Against Mike, Williams i'll

1025
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: run slants With Steve smith And i'll be thrilled to. Do,

1026
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: so you're going to back off Of Mike williams little.

1027
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: Bit i'm gonna throw him a quick little screen and

1028
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: have you run you over or just grab an easy

1029
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: eight and a. Half that to me was an all

1030
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 1: time fun team to play with in that game THAT

1031
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: i would eventually banned from playing with. Us, See so

1032
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty cularly fun Because Matt liner

1033
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: was especially accurate in that. GAME i think that was

1034
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: it was either a sophomore or junior, Then so that's

1035
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 1: that was my my. Norm Chow Dan, rubinstein mind meld

1036
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: come to.

1037
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 3: Life let me ask you a very important. Question m.

1038
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: Hmm mindful of the fact that whenever they released, this

1039
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: and AGAIN i have no, idea but let's just say

1040
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, two summer of twenty twenty, two it comes.

1041
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: Out sure at that point in, time we don't have

1042
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: real players in the, game so they can't put a

1043
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 2: real player on the. Cover but they have to put

1044
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: some real player on the cover.

1045
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 1: Somebody so are we talking about a licensed. Game we're

1046
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: talking about a licensed.

1047
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: Game, okay no, players but they can have schools and

1048
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: conferences in the playoff and all that stuff in, it

1049
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 2: which would be, cool right to have the playoff in a.

1050
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 3: Game that'd be. Neat who is on the cover of that?

1051
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 3: Game this is the.

1052
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 1: Reason can it be a former? Player why they pay

1053
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: for his?

1054
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: Likeness, absolutely it can be a former. Player i'm guessing

1055
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: they'll be able to cut deals with some of those.

1056
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 2: Guys but who should be on the Cover not a current, player,

1057
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: right but the re release of a very popular game.

1058
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: SERIES i mean it's pretty Obviously matt, McGloin, RIGHT i

1059
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: could who is that. Player it's probably somebody Like Joe

1060
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: burrow who is just out of luck in terms of

1061
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: getting on The usually these are players who have just

1062
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: turned pros or exhausted their eligibility and gone. Pro, so,

1063
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: YEAH i could See Joe, BURROW i could see The

1064
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: lawrence Server. Lawrence, yeah a person like that that is

1065
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: recent enough to sort of sing out that this is

1066
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: a new version of the. Game or they could sort

1067
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: of straddle the fence and go with just like a

1068
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 1: map of The United states with a bunch of college

1069
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 1: football flags or The College Football Playoff trophy Or Bill

1070
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: hancock just like almost like an Old Star wars movie

1071
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: poster where there's just a bunch of mascots and guys

1072
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: playing the suzophone and you, know a bunch of college

1073
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: football traditional totems and landmarks and, like, hey it's all,

1074
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: here it's all. BACK i LIKE i could see that

1075
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: kind of thing as. WELL i like your.

1076
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 3: Idea, YEAH i don't know who goes on the.

1077
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: Cover my first College Trevor, lawrence but you, know they

1078
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 2: college football has a, deep rich. History they could probably

1079
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: put a bunch of guys on from the last, decade

1080
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 2: maybe who didn't get their fair share of being in the.

1081
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: Game that would be.

1082
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: Cool well here's what you, missed.

1083
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 3: Right WHAT i think would be super.

1084
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: Cool AND i know they won't do this because this

1085
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 2: would require time that they're almost certainly not willing to

1086
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 2: put in digitized versions of some of these college football

1087
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: memes that we've had over the last.

1088
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: DECADE i posted, THAT i tweeted some of.

1089
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: That yeah, yeah the shirtless guy at The Florida state

1090
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: GAME Nc, State yeah, Yeah like some of.

1091
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: You're talking about the older guy in the state.

1092
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 2: In the, Stands i'm not talking ABOUT Nc state guy

1093
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: on the flagpole or. Whatever, yeah, yeah, yeah but some

1094
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 2: of those.

1095
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: Memi moments from the.

1096
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: Past he did in one of the additions of the.

1097
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: Game there was definitely an introduction like as soon as

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00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: you turn the game, on there's a bunch of shots

1099
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: of crazed. Fans so they have broached that element of the.

1100
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: Sport they weren't, memes but it was just, like, hey

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00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: here's a crowd shot In, norman and a crowd shot

1102
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: at cal and a crowd shot and you, Know knoxville or.

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00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: Whatever we have had that element to the introduction to the,

1104
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: game a tip of the cap to the. Fans, YEAH

1105
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: i think it's going to be something. Generic it's either

1106
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: gonna be something, generic like a map and a, flag you,

1107
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: know And brutus and The oregon duck and he's just

1108
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: sort OF i think that's what it's gonna. BE i

1109
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be that compilate image in the first year,

1110
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: back like a big every The gang's all here kind of.

1111
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: Cover final.

1112
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 2: Question we've gotten this on our, Discord we've gotten this On,

1113
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: Twitter we've gotten this on. Email people want to, know

1114
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 2: are you guys going to be in the, Game you

1115
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 2: guys going to be involved in the.

1116
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 3: Game are we going to be involved in this? Game

1117
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: we have no. Idea we'd love to, be, Okay.

1118
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: But first of, all no matter What DYNASTY i, Create

1119
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: i'm creating A tie Hilden brandt.

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 3: Character, obviously And i'm creating it absolutely for. Sure but

1121
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 3: that aside ideal future. State we have some sway over the,

1122
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 3: game some ability to be in the, game be involved

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00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 3: in the. ROLLOUT i don't know what makes the most.

1124
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: Sense we influence the, Influencers how.

1125
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 3: Should we be influencing these?

1126
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: Influencers, well you've seen previous video games utilize like Fake twitter.

1127
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: Feeds not necessarily THE ncaa, series but some of like

1128
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: TWO k be, Like, oh Jay E ski loves What

1129
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: Bradley beal's doing. Tonight just have that on one of the.

1130
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: SCREENS i think he was. INVOLVED i think probably you

1131
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: because you have the better voice for, us BECAUSE i

1132
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: think we should both be in the. Game we have

1133
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: to be reacting to a team's, dynasty you, know creating

1134
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: a coach and weighing in with maybe thirty second soundbites

1135
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: about what the dynasty is. Doing we could use proper

1136
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: names during this, audition like of school names or, whatever

1137
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: and we could also just be generic with it so

1138
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: it could be. Used we just have to come up

1139
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 1: with a thousand or two thousand different thirty second blip

1140
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: conversations that we could. Have, Right, So i'm going to

1141
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: give you a scenario that will happen during a, dynasty

1142
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: AND i think you just need to react. Naturally that

1143
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,000
Speaker 1: would make sense for a player to hear while they

1144
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: are navigating his or her. Dynasty, okay so the scenario is.

1145
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 3: The.

1146
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: Coach it doesn't matter because you don't need to proper.

1147
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: Names the coach Of Arizona state has Left tempe for

1148
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: The TEXAS a AND. M job, OKAY i GUESS anlma zone?

1149
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: Type does that connect? Correctly? Possibly the head coach OF

1150
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: asu has left For TEXAS a AND, m and he

1151
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: is leaving behind the greatest recruiting class In Sun devil

1152
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 1: history after LEADING asu to A Rose bowl, win and

1153
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: he is now moving on To TEXAS a AND m

1154
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: coming off of a three and nine. Season what is

1155
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: your reaction within the game to get people excited for

1156
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: both leaving behind greatness and entering into a fix it

1157
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: scenario at a bigger. Place we'd have.

1158
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: To play, this.

1159
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: We'd that's a spicy, Move, Dan it is a spicy.

1160
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 3: Move that's a spicy. Move bringing The valley of The sun.

1161
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: Across The Sun belt and Into College.

1162
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: Station that's a spicy. Play that, again to bring that

1163
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 3: level of, recruiting, aptitude of, coaching, skill of influence To College.

1164
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 3: Station are you kidding?

1165
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 2: Me they haven't had that since The Mike sherman, Days Jim,

1166
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 2: bow can we use real.

1167
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: Names, now but you can say generic things like they

1168
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 1: haven't seen this level in quite some.

1169
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 3: Time they haven't seen this level in quite some.

1170
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: Time, Yeah i'd say something, like, listen, folks THE sec

1171
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: is a whole different ballgame from what you can accomplish

1172
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: in The valley of The. Sun we'll see how this

1173
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: guy stacks up against the heavyweights right there in the same.

1174
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: Division this is a far trickier challenge given who he

1175
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: has to recruit. Against BUT i think with the right

1176
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: staff and the right, effort he's up to the.

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01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: Task he's bringing an aggressive attacking mentality on defense.

1178
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: And was really gonna fool him on.

1179
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 3: Offense looking for His Baker mayfield type at no proper,

1180
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: names we're not, positive looking for his a game, changer

1181
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 3: playmaker at quarterback with an Edge shaggie fans. BETTER i

1182
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: hope he hits the recruiting trail early and. Often he's

1183
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 3: got his work cut out for. Him could we include

1184
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,440
Speaker 3: a barb in there ABOUT a AND m not Playing

1185
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 3: texas every year.

1186
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: In state recruiting gonna be Tough after three straight national

1187
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: championships from The, Longhorns.

1188
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah we got room to grow. Here i'm. EXCITED i

1189
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 3: want to be part of. This we want to be

1190
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 3: part of.

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01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: This but, yeah oh, YEAH i think we would be.

1192
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: Terrific ty they're not going to call. Us we know,

1193
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 3: that but well we'll.

1194
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: See What we could always modify the game and offer

1195
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: a special edition solid. Verbal that's, right Disc you can use,

1196
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 1: discs but not everybody. Does is that how video games? Work?

1197
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 3: NOW i don't think they're going to work that way

1198
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 3: on the new.

1199
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 1: But you can get A ps five with a disc.

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01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 3: SLOT i don't think it's to play, games, though is. It?

1201
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: Oh this is just to Watch blu rays or, something

1202
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: Play blu.

1203
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 3: Rays, yeah, oh, okay BUT i don't.

1204
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 1: Know these are monster hard drives, too, right they're pushing

1205
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: a gig all, right excuse? Me a? Terabyte oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1206
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: YEAH i haven't really looked into it, yet but now

1207
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: THAT i know this game's, Coming i'm gonna have.

1208
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: To is there anything else that has stood out to

1209
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 1: you ABOUT ps five availability other THAN? Fifa are there

1210
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 1: any other?

1211
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 3: GAME i haven't looked into. It, OKAY i haven't looked into,

1212
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 3: it BUT i will now Sim.

1213
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: Copter they'll tell.

1214
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 2: YOU i downloaded Sim city a couple of weeks, ago

1215
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 2: like a newer version or two, thousand the latest version

1216
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: whatever that.

1217
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 1: Was, oh how is?

1218
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: It i've found it for like eight bucks.

1219
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: Online it's really. HARD i drove a city into the

1220
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 2: ground in like two.

1221
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: Hours there is a cottage industry of people who build

1222
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: intentionally terrible, CITIES i think In SimCity or something close

1223
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 1: To SimCity and post the video on. YouTube there's there's

1224
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 1: a guy on YouTube at this thing is like still

1225
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: streaming or something like, that and he'll, say, HEY i rose.

1226
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: TAXES i raise taxes to one hundred percent to see

1227
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: what would happen to my. City and here's what. Happened

1228
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: and it's, great it's, hilarious it's.

1229
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 3: Amazing, Yeah i'm Just i'm not a great. Mayor it turns.

1230
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: OUT i think you should watch those videos on YouTube.

1231
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 2: Instead right in soliverbo at gmail dot, com let us

1232
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: know your thoughts verballers dot.

1233
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: Com it's where you can find our. Patreon gray still,

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01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 3: Plays gray still.

1235
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: Plays g r a y is the name of the.

1236
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: RIDICULOUS i built a city with a one hundred percent tax.

1237
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 1: RIGHT i built a city with a one hundred thousand

1238
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: percent tax. RATE i built a city with a zero

1239
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 1: percent income tax, rate and this. Happened it's an amazing.

1240
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 3: CHANNEL i find us on social. Media let us know your.

1241
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: Thoughts yeah, ya sports college Foot i'm back coming.

1242
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: Back we don't know, when but hopefully sooner than. Later

1243
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: That's frankie c, Right frankie stands a.

1244
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: Baby, yeah, okay, GREAT i love.

1245
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 2: It for that guy over, there my good Friend Dan,

1246
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 2: rubinstein for, Myself Tie, hill the, brand thanks for tagging

1247
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 2: along with, Us stay, safe enjoy your, weekend and until next,

1248
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:19,280
Speaker 2: time stay.

1249
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: Solid peace to the.

1250
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: Game