WEBVTT - 5/23, Part 1: Brad Ziegler, Injury updates, Stanton setback, and more... 0:00:00.560 --> 0:00:03.640 Hey, thanks for downloading the podcast, and remember, if you 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:07.160 want to listen live, download the I Heart Radio app, 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.080 download the tune in app and just search for Fantasy 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:14.760 Sports Radio Network and you could listen to this program live. Also, 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:17.360 if you want to watch the video of this podcast, 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.000 check us out on YouTube, on twitch, or on Periscope 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.840 and type in you guess dude, Fantasy Sports Network. You'll 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.200 find us there. Enjoy the show and thanks for listening. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:38.760 You're listening to the Fantasy Sports Radio Network Fantasy best 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:54.120 Friends Forever to to to to to to to to 0:00:54.800 --> 0:01:04.639 to to. Yeah. Oh, there's the Fantasy best Friends Forever 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.600 here on the Fantasy Sports Radio Network alongside Frankie Stanfell. 0:01:08.760 --> 0:01:14.080 I am Greg salesman. Frank, what's about reggae? How's everything going? Happy? 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.680 Thursday to Thursday? That means the week is almost over, 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.360 Greggy excited the weekend? Memorial Day it is? It is, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:24.360 in fact Memorial Day weekend. Very excited to get started 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:27.720 with you and very very excited to get everything under way. 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.440 I'm also excited to be joined as we are reaching 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:34.400 every Thursday. But the Man show off, it's Brad Ziegler. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.920 What's going on? Bred? Not a lot guys, how are 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.760 you doing? Not much, man, I'm doing well. I feel good. 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:45.160 How Brad, how did you sleep last night? Uh? Decent. 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:48.880 We We've had a pretty pretty strong series of thunderstorms 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:51.600 coming through the Midwest, so uh. Sometimes the nights are 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.280 a little little dicey, little loud um loud thunder the 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.400 dogs get nervous, kids getting nervous. But other than that, 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:02.200 all good night. I slept well. I was I was 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:04.520 out like like Greg. I went out for dinner last 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:06.640 and not last night. I told you about that. Went 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.880 to a Mexican restaurant, drank a margarita tower. Sounds delicious. 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:13.079 Hundred ounces of margarita. You king by yourself? No, no, no, no, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.359 you have to have four people with you in order 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.320 in order to get it done. How much of it 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.760 did you did? You drink? Probably like three or four 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:23.240 glasses raspberry margarita? Love it sounds great. I had a rasper. 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.840 I slept very well. I had a raspberry yogurt this morning. 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:30.440 That's gross. Sorry, very nice, Brad. Do you like yogurt? 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:34.480 I like yogurt, but I am not a raspberry fan 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.480 at all, so I would I would definitely pass on 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.440 that one. That's a mistake by you, and both of 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.639 you really yogurt. It's good for you. It gets the 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.799 body working, the stomach working. It's like it's almost like 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:48.520 a probiotic. Well, it also tastes gross. Sorry, Greg, it's fine. 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.200 It's just a bacon, egg and cheese. I'm sure you 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:55.880 do most people. Most people do. All right, let's not 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.600 let's get into today's show. We only have Brad obviously 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.600 for a little while, and I want to start with 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.400 the Yankees. I'm gonna start with Giancarlos Stanton because this 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:05.480 is ridiculous already. And I know we're I'm a Yankee 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.800 fan and frankst fan. I know we're fantasy players, and 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.959 gian Carlos Stanton on a team that's in second place, 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.360 we want to get to first, and we really standing back. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:18.240 But Brad, this is really ridiculous at this point where 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.639 he has a strained bicep, which is okay, fine, he'll 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.840 be back in about three weeks, all good. That turns 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:27.760 into a quarter zone shot in his shoulder, which has 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.960 been significantly bothering him going back to his days in 0:03:31.000 --> 0:03:34.600 Miami when you played together. Fine, but although it was 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:39.480 very weird, the Yankees didn't reveal anything about this at all. Well, 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:41.520 he was going on a minorlygu really have assignment. First game, 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:44.040 hits a home run, talks to reporters after the game. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.480 I'm feeling good, ready to d h tomorrow. I'll be 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.240 back in no time. He's gotta get my bats under me. Fantastic. 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.560 This isn't the word to anybody there. The next day 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:57.680 he had a little bit of calf tightness, what from 0:03:57.760 --> 0:04:01.160 a hit he was hit by a pitch in batting 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:05.040 practice on the calf muscle. I don't even know how 0:04:05.120 --> 0:04:07.040 that works because your legs. I don't even know how 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.680 the ball is going to get to the I don't 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:10.280 know how that works. I don't even know if I 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:16.360 believe it. So fine, all good until he's scratched from 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.839 the lineup that night. Next day. Yeah, he should be 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:21.840 ready to go, should be back in their d h 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:25.200 NG right on schedule, until he's pulled off the rehab 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:28.839 assignment because he has a strained calf muscle from a 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:32.159 hit by a pitch. Now, Aaron Boone, the manager, was asked, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:35.520 how do you strain your calf muscle from being hit 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.599 by a pitch in batting practice. Aaron Boone responds, I 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:43.560 have no idea, but he is. What do you make 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:47.719 of all of this? Well, the biggest thing I mentioned 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.479 this before. When a guy gets hit with a pitch, 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.760 it weakens the muscles in that area. Um, even if 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.680 it's batting practice. You know, the guy throwing sixty, it's 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.680 not you know, not a huge deal. You don't think 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:58.720 of that much of it. But if he gets hit 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.520 square in the muscle, you know, it's probably gonna bruise, 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.520 it's gonna weaken that muscle a little bit, and it 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.160 just becomes tighter naturally. And you're talking about a guy 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.560 who's already a massive human being. I mean he's six seven, 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:15.280 you know, two hundred fifty pounds and just chiseled. At 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:20.520 that point, he is very muscle bound. He um, his 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:23.760 he needs everything to to be functioning properly because he 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.640 doesn't have the room for error that us guys with 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.760 a little pudge have. Um, everything's gotta be going going, 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:33.400 just smooth and and so um. When when you get 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.839 a little nick here and there, his his body will 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.000 react differently than it does to the average human being. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.039 And and because of that, um, you know it it 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:44.440 lends itself to to you know, higher volatility for injury 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:49.800 injury likelihood. Yeah, so he is jacked up, unlike our 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.159 little pudge. Let you, Brad, we we have the pudge. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:57.440 You're you're, you're. He's clearly um. But well when it 0:05:57.440 --> 0:05:59.680 comes to stand I know, Frank, your question was, can 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.480 you've too chat? Yeah? Is that a real thing? I mean, 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.200 this guy has built like Hercules, Brad. And there was 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.520 an article earlier on in the season, it might have 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.159 been the Post or the Daily News, whatever it was, 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.480 and they said, well, the reason why Babe Ruth never 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:13.160 got hurt was because he was just a fat guy 0:06:13.160 --> 0:06:15.560 whoad hot dogs and drank beer. And is there any 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:18.600 truth to like being too muscular for baseball? Is that 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.359 that even a thing? Is that real? I definitely think so, 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:24.080 and I think it can be real, not only in 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.440 baseball but in all sports. I mean, look at look 0:06:26.440 --> 0:06:29.279 at how many non contact injuries happen in football because 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:32.000 the body is just not designed to hold the muscle 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:34.839 mass that that it's holding. Now, the joints get strained 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.160 at a you know, at a higher rate. Um, the 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.600 everything is is just working differently than it is if 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:46.880 you're just a normal human being walking through life. In general. So, um, yeah, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.120 you can. I think you can't get too muscle strapped. 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.240 I think you can um get to the point where 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.440 it almost hinders you, especially in a scenario where you're 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:57.960 you're injured and trying to come back from it. It 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.320 might take you a little longer and you're you have 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:03.480 a higher likelihood for set bats. Yeah, I think we 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.960 should start a petition for the Yankees, specifically Aaron Judge 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.440 and Dark Carlos Stanton to go on the CC Sabathia diet. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:15.760 Forgetting the CC's forget the CC diet, just have the 0:07:15.760 --> 0:07:18.760 Gragon Frank diet will work fine well, minus the yogurt 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:21.680 yoga yogurt yogurts too healthy? Man is the salads as well? 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:23.560 You don't you don't want you don't want to do that. CC, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.600 by the way, actually headed back the ill of his 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:30.560 own knee problems, although I honestly like backpatting or anything. 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.440 But I watched him obviously last night that I'm about too. Yeah, 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.000 So I watched him last night. I was like, I 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.119 feel like the knees bothering him, Like he just seemed 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:41.600 a little off. And it was when it wasn't when 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.600 he was living around, but just something seemed off. I like, 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.640 I think the knee, he's bothering him. And when I 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:47.760 saw it after the game, I was like, oh, I 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.360 was cool. I knew it, you know, a little small 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.520 you just we watched CC for over a decade now, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:56.760 so like you kind of know certain things. It was like, oh, 0:07:56.800 --> 0:07:59.760 that was pretty cool. But speaking of non contact injuries, 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.000 at it and it's beking of injuries in general, and 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.560 injuries the Babe Ruth never had. That brings us to 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:09.080 a strained oblique muscle, and Wade Davis is the latest, 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:12.120 Aaron Judge being not the earliest but another recent one 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:16.120 that has a strained oblique. I feel like I wouldn't 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:18.440 even know if my oblique was strained. So maybe I'll 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:19.960 just walk out of here today and be like, hey, 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.200 I have a strained obleakue. But this is you have 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:28.240 an oblique to strain it. That's the real that muscle, Greg, 0:08:28.320 --> 0:08:30.640 you probably don't have it. That's a really good point. Um. 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.559 Maybe that's why Babe Ruth and all those guys years ago, 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.120 I never had a strained no blak muscle. U what 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:40.240 is it? How does it hurt? And how? I don't 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:44.240 know how painful is it? I guess so I I 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.160 unfortunately never had a strained oblique. I strained a back 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.800 muscle that was very close to the oblique. But obliques 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.319 basically just the side of your rib cage down in here. Um. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.680 If you're, if you're a picture, you're a hitter, obviously, 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:58.240 it's a huge muscle um to to potentially have an 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:02.360 injury because if you're you're there's so much rotation in 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:06.800 baseball that it is you know, extremely likely um that 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.080 that you will reinjure this again or you will have 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.480 a setback when you have an oblique issue. Um. They're 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.160 very easy to to hurt. You know. It can be 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:18.040 picking up a suitcase. It can be bending over to 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.360 pick something up. It's it's it's kind of like a 0:09:20.400 --> 0:09:23.439 back like it affects so many things that you do 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.199 that that it doesn't take a lot, especially the older 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.160 you get, it doesn't take a lot to strain it. Um. 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:32.360 And it is such a vital part of of playing baseball. Um. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:34.760 And it's painful. I mean it can. You can strain 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:36.240 it bad enough to the point where like you have 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.400 trouble breathing, you can pull ribs out of place. Uh, 0:09:39.440 --> 0:09:41.400 if you strain it bad enough. So it's just something 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.240 that you know a lot a lot of people uh 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:47.280 may not may not realize it, but at the same time, 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:49.600 it can be a huge factor. It's hard to come 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:54.960 back from. UM. At that standpoint, it's UM. It is 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:57.960 going to be something to monitor for way Davis long 0:09:58.080 --> 0:09:59.839 term because, like I said, this is an injury that 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:03.559 be UH have. It's very likely, um that there will 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:06.520 be setbacks in the rehab process. So you can hurt 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.960 your oblique by violently swinging any violently swinging back like alright, 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.040 Judge did or or violently doing anything with your core 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.360 your side muscle here, um Like like wait Davis did, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:20.880 So you're saying, Brad, if I violently swing this umbrella 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:24.960 right here like this, there's a good chance, Hiven, that 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.240 I have not worked out my core muscles over here, 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.680 I will hurt my oblique and then I can go 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.520 on the eile and miss work for a while. Uh. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:38.240 It's possible again that that it actually can be something 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.199 where if you don't work it out a whole lot, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.319 it actually may not be that much of a problem. 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.679 But whenever you do work it out, it can be 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.160 It can be something where, um, you know, kind of 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.840 like the Stanton thing. You've got these muscles that are 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.920 bigger than they're designed to be and and therefore they're 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:57.200 more susceptible to injury. All right, so I guess there's 0:10:57.240 --> 0:10:59.440 no chance to be injuring my oblique swinging his umbrella. 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:02.600 You keep playing spike ball and kickball, I'm sure you'll 0:11:02.640 --> 0:11:06.200 you'll end up straining something. That's good. It's good, you're confident, 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:11.600 you're confident sticking sticking with Colorado though, Brad so Way 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.400 Davis goes out and they announced shortly after that that 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:16.960 Scott Oberg was going to actually be the intern closer. 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:19.720 But it wasn't like clear to fantasy owners that over 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.600 would be the guy. Like his underlying numbers not great, 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:25.160 good year last year, almost as many walks of strikeouts, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.640 not great, Bob fair to side, but he's ultimately gotten 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:34.520 the job done. Is there a feel inside the bullpen 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.840 that like they know who's going to be the guy? 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.199 Went to fantasy owners? It's not necessarily clear. Like I 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.760 think it's one thing where there's clearly guy, a guy 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:47.360 like yourself who has closing experience, and a guy goes down, 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.520 you're in the next fan, not like Texas was pretty obvious, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:52.719 right Jos Clark goes down. Clearly Sean Kelley was going 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:54.679 to take over and he's done. So even coming off 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:58.880 the I M with Colorado, it wasn't that easy for 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.760 us fantasy owners. And but black name Scott Oburg the 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.480 closer um with way Davis out? Is there that feeling 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.400 in the bullpen and how do the roles change and 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.480 how do the guys react to that? I think a 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.160 lot of times you have a pretty good idea who 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.160 it's going to be, especially if you're you're eighth inning 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:15.599 guy has been throwing well, a lot of times it 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.720 will be that guy. Um. There there are the scenarios where, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.080 especially in today's game, the way bullpens are used, where 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:25.840 guys um you know, managers may not want to alter 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.839 the the the chemistry of the bullpen. They want to 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:32.800 keep guys in these certain roles and and kind of 0:12:33.320 --> 0:12:36.319 have someone leap frog them to get to the ninth inning. 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.080 Because you've got a guy that's succeeding in the eighth inning, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:40.880 Why change it? You've got a guy that succeeding in 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:42.520 the seventh inning, Why change it? You've got a guy 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:44.880 to come in with runners on base, Why change it, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.680 Let someone else figure out the ninth and at least 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:49.680 use those other guys to get the ball to the ninth. 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.440 Whereas if you change up a whole lot of other 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:54.040 stuff prior to the ninth inning, then it's possible that 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.800 you don't even get to the ninth inning with the lead. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:13:00.400 So um, I think, Um, you know, obviously got closing 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:03.040 experience helps, but it's not it's not mandatory. I mean, 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:05.199 especially when you're talking about a short time, all you 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.040 need is the guy that's pitching well at that moment, 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.319 get get us through this time where our closers out. Um, 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.240 you know, hopefully for for Wade's sake, that is a 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.559 short amount of time. But but like I said, it 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.680 could turn into a lengthy, lengthy thing. And at that 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.400 point you've got to kind of feel, um like like 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.680 over is gonna have a chance to here to essentially 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:25.600 establish a really good role on this team. And and 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.920 when as far as within the bullpen um, a lot 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.400 of times the manager will sit down, um, you know, 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:34.760 especially prior to a series and look, guys, um, you 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:38.560 know obviously wades out now. Um, so this is the scenario, 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.199 What we're gonna do, and they'll they'll kind of lay 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:41.920 it out for everybody, and a lot of times they will. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:45.160 They he probably would have talked to Oberg ahead of time. UH, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:47.640 let him know, Hey, you're gonna be the guy right now, 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:50.800 so that you can start preparing mentally to be that 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.720 ninth inning guy, to be the guy, um that that 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:57.760 is in that situation, you start you do everything differently. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.440 You start stretching later in the game. Uh, you start 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:04.040 mentally preparing like, Okay, where are they at in the lineup? Uh, 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:06.080 you know who's who's looking like it might be in 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.720 the ninth inning, and start looking at scouting reports, have 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.600 a good feel for who's on the bench, who might 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.480 be pinch hitting. Um. It does change a little bit depending, 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:15.000 you know, if you're if you're especially if you're not 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.560 used to being an eighth or ninth inning guy. I 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:19.800 want to stick with the bullpens here, Brad, and I 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.960 want to kind of go to the opposite of the 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.480 closer right now, which is the opener. Uh. First and foremost, 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:28.560 I want to ask, how do you feel about the 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:32.840 opener considering that you were a successful reliever for as 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.360 long as you were, and how would you have felt 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:39.040 if you were asked to be an opener. I'm not 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.040 a huge fan of it. I'm kind of a traditionalist, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:42.800 a little bit to the point where I don't even 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.040 like UM. You know the managers taken starting pitchers out 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:49.360 after sixty seventy pitches just because of a matchup, potentially 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.080 so UM. At the same time, UM, I realized that 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.040 analytics are changing the game. Some teams are are really 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.360 buying into this UM. If I was asked to do it. 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.360 The hardest part, if you've never done it before, or 0:15:02.400 --> 0:15:05.720 even moving from a starter to reliever or vice versa, 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.480 is figuring out a warm up routine. When do I 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.640 start throwing, Because when you're a reliever, a lot of 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:14.640 times where they're at in the lineup in the inning 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:17.880 will dictate you know, how how fast you go when 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:20.160 you start throwing. If you're If they finish the seventh 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.880 inning and they call, the manager calls down, says ziggers 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.560 got the eighth inning. You know you've got three outs. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.160 You can kind of watch the game, get a feel 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.480 for for how the inning is going to see. You 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.160 know when exactly you need to be ready. If you 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.160 get two quick outs, you gotta speed it up. If 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:35.080 it's you guys get a couple of base hits and 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.760 a walk to start the inning, you kind of back 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:37.960 it down a little bit because you don't want to 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.040 throw sixty pitches in the bullpen before you go out there. 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.280 That's harder to do. Whenever you're you're essentially saying, hey, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:45.720 you got the first inning. You know, if it's the 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:48.000 bottom of the first that that you're pitching, if you're 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.160 on the road, then maybe it's you can kind of 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:51.840 treat it like I'll just get up and start throwing, 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.080 you know, when the when the game starts. But if 0:15:55.080 --> 0:15:56.640 it's the top of the first and you're you're the 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:58.200 home team and you're going out there to lead, it's 0:15:58.880 --> 0:16:02.440 most relievers don't know how much time it takes them 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:03.960 to get loose. You have us kind of a certain 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.560 number of throws. Maybe, but the adrenaline is different when 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.080 you're warming up and there's nothing going on in the 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.760 field except guys just kind of running around, stretching national 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.560 anthem all that stuff. That's different than when you're pitching 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.080 the seventh inning. So, um, I would not have been 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.560 a fan of it at the same time. Um, you know, 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:22.400 most guys would be like, Hey, if if this is 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:23.680 what you think, give us the best chance to win, 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.480 give me the ball bad Do you have a couple 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.000 woman to say out of us? Yeah, of course awesome. 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:29.760 When we come back. We talked to Brad before the 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.840 season began about pine tar and substance. It's kind of 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:34.280 back in the news. I'm interesting to talk to Brad 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.360 about that as well as come back from injury and 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.560 finding your group. Let's talk to Brad's eager about that. 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:50.720 Here the BFFs Next Daily Rhodo dot com learned from 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:54.560 the game's best DFS players. 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You're all on the Fantasy 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.120 Best Friends Forever. Frank Staffell, Brad Ziegler, and Greg Susan 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:08.040 Hay out with you on a Thursday, and Brad, we 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.639 actually talked to you and I specifically before the season 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.880 began about the use of a foreign substance. We talked 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.320 about Michael Pinato and and the um the substance that 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.080 he had on the back of his neck, and it 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.479 kind of came up again when the Yankees faced off 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.280 against the Mariners a week or two back, and we 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.320 saw through the y S cameras that you say, a 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.120 cou she had something right on the under the brim 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.840 of his hat, and you know, he would take the 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:32.600 hat and he wipe in. He did the thing and 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.679 the wipe his arms and it was very obvious what 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:37.320 he was doing. You pointed that out to me that 0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:39.239 every time you see a piget do the same thing 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:40.719 like you know they do, they were doing. And that 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.479 actually leads me back to last night, Frank that between 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:45.840 every yet batter, Dan Sterlia rubbed both of his arms, 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:49.280 rubbed every single time. Did no. It did not help 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.800 Dan Australia at all. Last night but he was doing 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.040 the same thing. I was like, this guy was routine, 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:55.840 and like, oh yeah, Brad told me about this, Like 0:19:55.840 --> 0:19:58.639 it's clearly he's got some suntan lotion or whatever to 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:04.040 better the ball. But again it didn't help. Does Obviously 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:06.080 Aaron Boone didn't say anything or do anything about it 0:20:06.080 --> 0:20:07.679 because he doesn't care because these pictures are doing the 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.679 same thing. As you pointed out, almost all pictures are 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.359 doing something to get a better grip. It's an unwritten 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:17.640 acceptable rule in baseball. But just using a substance help 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:21.240 with a particular pitch, and can we use as fantasy 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:26.200 owners as information to help us at all? I mean 0:20:26.200 --> 0:20:28.479 it can. It depends on the substance. I guess when 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:31.160 you're talking about, um, you know, if it's a pine 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:34.400 tar or the sunscreen and rosing combination, that kind of thing, 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.000 that that's not going to help with a particular pitch. 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:38.960 That's a picture just looking to get better grip on 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.640