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Speaker 1: Welcome to Thursday's this year a Big Blue Kickoff Live

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. He's Paul the teenom Lance Metal.

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you for the next sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: We will get to your phone calls, will get to

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Speaker 1: your tweets hashtag Giants Chat. Two zero five one three.

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Speaker 1: As we start to look ahead to the Cowboys Giants

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday Night Football, we'll go over the practice report,

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Speaker 1: will go over the injuries. Paul and I were in

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Speaker 1: the locker room earlier today and both coordinators, all three coordinators,

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Speaker 1: i should say, address the media. So a lot to

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Speaker 1: Let's start on the injury front and Sterling Shepherd spoke

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Speaker 1: to the media. It seems as if his back issue

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Speaker 1: is not going to be a lingering problem. He showed

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Speaker 1: up late on the practice report the other day. Olivier

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Speaker 1: Vernon also spoke to the media limited at practice along

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Speaker 1: with Wayne Goldman. The two of them are pretty much

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Speaker 1: on the side again. Yeah, so I would say that

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Speaker 1: those two guys are much less likely to go Sterling.

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Speaker 1: Shepherd pretty much promised everybody that he's okay. He said that, uh,

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Speaker 1: yesterday his back kind of flair it up a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but that he plans on practicing during the course of

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Speaker 1: this week and does expect to play in the game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. In fact, one of the reporters actually joked

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Speaker 1: with him and said, what happened? Did you lift the

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Speaker 1: baby a little bit funny because that how you threw

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Speaker 1: your back out? And he laughed and he said, no,

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Speaker 1: I I don't think that was it, but it was

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Speaker 1: just some discomfort in the back. So I think that

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Speaker 1: the fact that he was not at practice yesterday seemed

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Speaker 1: to me it was more a precautionary thing than anything else.

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Speaker 1: With respect to the Cowboys, DeMarcus Lawrence returned to practice today,

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Speaker 1: he would dealing with a groin injury, and then Randy Gregory,

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Speaker 1: who suffered a concussion against the Carolina Panthers, still in

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Speaker 1: concussion protocol. He did not practice for the second straight day.

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Speaker 1: So if you read between the lines, Paula looks as

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Speaker 1: if Dallas probably will have their number one pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: de Marcus Lawrence, but it doesn't look like they're gonna

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Speaker 1: have the depth off the bench with Randy Gregory. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true, And quite honestly, when you look at that

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Speaker 1: Vernon is the guy for the Giants. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: you could talk all you want about the schematics and

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Speaker 1: but let's not kid ourselves. Uh. Lawrence is a premier

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Speaker 1: pass rusher in this league, just like o v is

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Speaker 1: for New York and and there is no replacing a

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Speaker 1: guy like that. You could try to work around it

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Speaker 1: as best as possible. I think the Giants pass rush

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Speaker 1: was probably just about adequate last week. They'd like it

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Speaker 1: to be better. It wasn't awful, it was sporadic, but

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Speaker 1: they certainly would like to get more pressure on Prescott.

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Speaker 1: I think if you watch the Dallas Carolina game, their

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Speaker 1: pressure wasn't very good against Newton, but they actually played

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Speaker 1: some pretty solid defense around that. And so, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think both of these teams going into Sunday Nights

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Speaker 1: are with their defenses. No, I think that's a great point.

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Speaker 1: Dallas walking away with just eight points, a late touchdown

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Speaker 1: I think both teams are looking at themselves. Hey, we

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Speaker 1: were able to move the football. We just didn't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of points to show for the yardage that

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Speaker 1: we collected. Well. The Giants in particular, had five drives

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Speaker 1: under normal circumstances isn't a bad day's work. But then

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Speaker 1: you look at the four drop passes. Uh. You look

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Speaker 1: at the muff punt they gave away at the end

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Speaker 1: that they did not block properly, and you know, and

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Speaker 1: that says nothing of a couple of misconnections on some passes,

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Speaker 1: to Evan Ingram, I mean the litany of errors. I

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Speaker 1: don't need to relive them for you folks, it's already Thursday,

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Speaker 1: but the litany of errors that the Giants made. Here's

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Speaker 1: what I would say if you want to be optimistic,

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Speaker 1: The Giants showed me a lot of very good things

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Speaker 1: in a generic sense. What they did not show me

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Speaker 1: too rough around the edges. Now that's the good news, though,

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Speaker 1: because you'd like to believe you can fix execution a

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Speaker 1: philosophical issues, because that that involves a whole another picture.

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Speaker 1: If it's simply a matter of guys making sure that

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Speaker 1: that reason, I think the Giants have a lot of

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Speaker 1: reasons to be optimistic about this game. Over two in

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Speaker 1: the red zone is a statistic that jumps out to meet. Paul.

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Speaker 1: By the way, ros has three or three on field goals.

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Speaker 1: He did a nice job, he came through, but you

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Speaker 1: the other thing which speaks to the lack of execution,

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Speaker 1: up my charts right now third down efficiency, which was

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Speaker 1: an issue last season on both sides in terms of

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Speaker 1: third down offensively. So the Giants were four of thirteen,

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Speaker 1: which was identical to what Jacksonville did. But let's take

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Speaker 1: the four of thirteen and break it down even further. Paul,

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Speaker 1: five downs for six yards or less out of the thirteen, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you'll take that. The overwhelming majority of those thirteen downs

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Speaker 1: But that's not what jumps out. Including out of those

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Speaker 1: eight downs, you had one which was a third and sixteen.

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Speaker 1: You had another third and sixteen, you had a third

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Speaker 1: So you had eight downs which were the seven yards

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Speaker 1: And yet despite all of the mistakes that the Giants made,

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Speaker 1: And isn't really that's that's what it's all about. That's

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Speaker 1: Week one performances, because both of them are in similar circumstances.

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Speaker 1: They had the opportunity to score late, tie or win

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Speaker 1: I think both of these defenses on paper or somewhat underrated.

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Speaker 1: They both don't have a lot of household names, but

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Speaker 1: but he certainly was content with how aggressive the group was,

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Speaker 1: likes to control the rest of the game. Jacksonville had

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Speaker 1: you with their big, strong offensive line. They got norwell,

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Speaker 1: touch the ball again. Well, the good news and the

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Speaker 1: bad news was, yeah, the Giants did touch the ball again.

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Speaker 1: The bad news was they muffed it away. But but

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Speaker 1: Prescott one more shot, and the Cowboys, like the Giants,

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Speaker 1: just couldn't take advantage of that last opportunity. You brought

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Speaker 1: pound the football, put together lengthy drives Dallas, Paul, is

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Speaker 1: very similar. You've got the mobile quarterback at Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: Let's open up the phone lines two zero one, five

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Speaker 1: target game in a particular game for whatever circumstances are,

429
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Speaker 1: But I don't think that's gonna be the norm. Yeah,

430
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Speaker 1: that's a very high number there, And Dukeleson will let

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Speaker 1: you go on that note. I want to get to

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Speaker 1: a few more callers. Appreciate you weighing in. I mean,

433
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Speaker 1: the other thing you need to take into consideration, Paul.

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Speaker 1: You know he mentioned well if the drops continue, just

435
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Speaker 1: because there's a drop here there doesn't mean if you're

436
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Speaker 1: Eli Manning, you don't throw to those guys anymore. I mean, grant,

437
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Speaker 1: did I know Oldell essentially caught everything that went his way,

438
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Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that now you only look his way. No, No,

439
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Speaker 1: you can't do that. Yeah, I mean guy drops the pass. Yeah,

440
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 1: it makes you feel crummy about it. But if all

441
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Speaker 1: of a sudden you eliminate him from from the scheme

442
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Speaker 1: or from the playbook, well then the other other team

443
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Speaker 1: is going to be saying, hey, guess why do you

444
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 1: dropped the pass? Don't worry about it anymore. Well, just

445
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 1: gar you're playing today the defense you want to do.

446
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: He got fifteen targets, which to me is an enormous number.

447
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: I mean, even if you look at the top wideouts

448
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Speaker 1: across the board and you know, in fairness, I think

449
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham was open a lot of time, so Eli

450
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Speaker 1: went to him, which makes sense, But there is to

451
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Speaker 1: me at this think difference Paul in giving your wide

452
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Speaker 1: receiver enough opportunities versus force feeding your wide receipent. To me,

453
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Speaker 1: those are two different things. I think there were opportunities

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Speaker 1: where he was open, and then Eli, I think, gave

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Speaker 1: him opportunities to try to go up and make something happen.

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Speaker 1: But when you start talking about giving a guy eighteen nineteen,

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Speaker 1: maybe even twenty targets, that's I think overdoing it, and

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Speaker 1: that's getting into the territory of force feeding, which I

459
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Speaker 1: think could actually do worse for your offense and not

460
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Speaker 1: necessarily help him out agreed, and I think you got

461
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Speaker 1: to be cautious of that. Let's head back to the

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Speaker 1: phone line. Scott is in New Mexico. Scott, what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon, guys. How are you doing you? I have

464
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Speaker 1: two points I wanted to talk about. One is fixing

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Speaker 1: problems and the other one is attitude. And the first

466
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Speaker 1: part fixing problems. When Tiki Barber was first here and uh,

467
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Speaker 1: he was having a case of the sombolitis, Tom Coughlin

468
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Speaker 1: pulled him aside and showed him a different way to

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Speaker 1: carry the ball, and I think from that point on

470
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Speaker 1: he wasn't the same player. And he's obviously a promo caliber.

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Speaker 1: Gerald Ingram, the running backs coach, deserves a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit for that too, right, But they recognized the problem.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to pick just two players. One's been

474
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Speaker 1: beating up a lot, I know, and one I'm a

475
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Speaker 1: little surprised about at this point. But Erik Flowers, for example,

476
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Speaker 1: since has given up a hundred and sixty nine total pressures.

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Speaker 1: That's the most of any tackle in the NFL. This

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Speaker 1: is by your account or by who's I'm sorry, by

479
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Speaker 1: by whose count? That was on Wikipedia Wikipedia that's that's

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Speaker 1: outstanding information, Scott. I don't know if that's the first

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Speaker 1: thing I go to in terms of resources exactly, but

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Speaker 1: but well we'll hear you out. Okay, So you read

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Speaker 1: that he's given up the most press. He was also

484
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Speaker 1: ranked fifty four best tackle in the league by Pro

485
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Speaker 1: Football Focus, so that means as eight tackles that are

486
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Speaker 1: actually worse than him. But that's not my issue. My

487
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: issue is he's working with Contra now and I know

488
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Speaker 1: how from his days in San Diego, and he put

489
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Speaker 1: some very good lines together. What can the coaches do?

490
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Speaker 1: And I'll pack another guy so I can do both

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Speaker 1: at the same time. Evan Ingram drops a number of

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Speaker 1: passes that he should catch, and I'm not citing them

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Speaker 1: just for that, but just in those two regards, where's

494
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Speaker 1: the coach's responsibility and what can they actually physically do

495
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Speaker 1: to change the dynamic? Because they're both key players on

496
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Speaker 1: the offense and if you if you have this continually

497
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Speaker 1: happening game after game, it's obviously not a good thing.

498
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Speaker 1: So what can what do you say, because you're closer

499
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Speaker 1: to the subject matter than I am, what can what

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Speaker 1: can the coaches do to actually fix the problems so

501
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Speaker 1: they can move forward and we're not going through this

502
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Speaker 1: histrionic almost every week. Well, I mean, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a great question. With Evan Ingram, I'll take first Paul

504
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Speaker 1: and then we could go towards Eric Flower's. I don't

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Speaker 1: think with Evan Ingram it necessarily that his fundamentals are

506
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Speaker 1: short and that he has to, you know, change his routine.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes a lot of things with drops are

508
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Speaker 1: just mental where you know, sometimes you're thinking about what

509
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Speaker 1: you're gonna do with the football before you actually secured.

510
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Speaker 1: Case in Point Scott, if you remember Sterling Shepard had

511
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Speaker 1: a drop where he was going towards the left flat.

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Speaker 1: I believe if you look, he looked up the field

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Speaker 1: Paul before he actually secured the football was a huge one,

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Speaker 1: huge one. So that's an example of I don't think

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Speaker 1: Sterling has to necessarily get a pep talk from the

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Speaker 1: coaching staff. Is just you've got to think to yourself, Okay,

517
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Speaker 1: I'm anxious and what I'm gonna do next, But focus

518
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Speaker 1: on the football, look towards the quarterback, make the catch,

519
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Speaker 1: then turn and then determine what you want to do.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I think a lot of the drops

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Speaker 1: come into play. There was another one, for example, with

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Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, if memory serves me correct, where it looked

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Speaker 1: like he caught it. Then I think to Sean Gibson,

524
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Speaker 1: the safety of the Jaguars came from behind, give him

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Speaker 1: a pretty significant hit from the back, and he dropped it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, once again, what are you gonna l Evan Ingram?

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Speaker 1: If you're a coach, yes, you've got to anticipate somebody's

528
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Speaker 1: gonna hit you from behind. But once again, I think

529
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Speaker 1: those are more concentration issues than necessarily funded. I would agree,

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Speaker 1: and if Ingram is truly going to be one of

531
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Speaker 1: the elite receiving threats amongst NFL tight ends, he's got

532
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Speaker 1: to hold onto that, no doubt about it. With respect

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Speaker 1: to Eric Flowers, maybe that maybe you could say, perhaps

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Speaker 1: boils down to some XS and os and technique stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I find, just from talking to

536
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Speaker 1: people who have covered the NFL former players with Offensive Lineman,

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Speaker 1: a lot of it comes down to film study and

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00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: seeing things so that you can't anticipate if they come

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Speaker 1: up again. And you know, Paul, I didn't do the

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Speaker 1: show with you on Tuesday. I brought this up when

541
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Speaker 1: I did the show with Russ and I'm curious your perspective.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember the pick six play? What I explained

543
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Speaker 1: Eric Flower spoke to the media on Monday, this was

544
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Speaker 1: the one where Telvin Smith fakes that he's going to

545
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Speaker 1: blitz if you remember, and then I've studied about six times.

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Speaker 1: I'm just refreshing it for the audience. Take to no,

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Speaker 1: I do we well know. The reason I want to

548
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Speaker 1: do it is because I think it's related to Scott's

549
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: question in terms of Okay, well, pressure was given up there,

550
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: but is it a matter of the technique was off

551
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: or the player made the right decision and just Jacksonville

552
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: had a good game plan. That's why I want to

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Speaker 1: bring up this play. When Eric spoke to the media

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Speaker 1: Paul on Monday, he explained that when he spoke to

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff and what he was taught is he

556
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Speaker 1: is responsible to picking up the interior pressure that is

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Speaker 1: shown by Telvin Smith. That his his first responsibility because

558
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: it's a two on one type of scenario. So he

559
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: fell for the fake because he obviously thought Kelvin Smith

560
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: was gonna come in and that obviously freed up yannik

561
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: agakway to get a step on him off the edge.

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Speaker 1: That's what Flowers told the media. That's what I'm exactly

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Speaker 1: relating right now. See what we don't know because obviously

564
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Speaker 1: Eric's gonna tell us what what he believes to be

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Speaker 1: the case or what or for that matter, what he

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Speaker 1: thinks we may want to hear. I have not talked

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Speaker 1: to hell Hunter since since that game. Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Hal would tell me exactly what happened or not.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously coaches do need to keep something close

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Speaker 1: to the vest um. I suspect that was more of

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Speaker 1: a mental block than it was a physical error on

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Speaker 1: his part. I don't know what what Flowers thought he

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Speaker 1: was gonna see. I don't know what protection he thought

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Speaker 1: he was supposed to execute, but he clearly didn't do either,

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00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: and it just turned into a disastrous play for the Giants. Now,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you this and I and I mean

577
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Speaker 1: this wholeheartedly. Just this is I'm not gonna sell anybody out.

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00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name names, but I have talked to

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff and there was another play in the

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Speaker 1: game that I know for a fact. Okay, the offensive

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00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: protection that was called out by Eli Manning and this

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00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: and and at the line of scrimmage was was apparently

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Speaker 1: executed by half the guys. The other half of the

584
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: guys did not either hear it correctly, didn't hear it

585
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: at all, or thought they heard something else, and they

586
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: did not execute the proper protection that the quarterback called out.

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Speaker 1: As a result, the play totally blew up. And so

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00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: I asked, I said, well, on this play, I mean,

589
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: I think I know what happened, but I'm not sure why.

590
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: And they said, well, we're telling you why. Those two

591
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: guys somehow, some way did not do the protection that

592
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: that Eli called out, but the other guys got it.

593
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: So where do you how do you put blame on that?

594
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: Do you just tell them to take cotton out of

595
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: their ears? Do you? Did you say, shake their heads

596
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: and say why didn't you understand this? Did they hear

597
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: it wrong? I mean, there can be a lot of

598
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: reasons for that, but that's a particular play that I

599
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: know that blew up, and I found out exactly why.

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Speaker 1: And that may have been the case on other plays too. Right, Well,

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Speaker 1: my my question really relates to uh as far as

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Speaker 1: this not repeating mistakes, and I know when Parcels was coach,

603
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: and these are different times and different players. Uh, he

604
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't tolerate a lot of this stuff. And when I'm

605
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: getting at is you have a very good coaching staff.

606
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: I really admire most of these guys. And if you

607
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: have correctable problems, why after you do it the first time,

608
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 1: you need to correct it so it doesn't happen again.

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00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: It's it's a typical type of response. And what I

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00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: see is a repetition of the same things, even with

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00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: a many know we're throwing receivers. These are things that

612
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: you need to correct right in the first Scott, Scott,

613
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: you're not taking into account something very important. I gripe

614
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 1: about it every single August. Think about this. The Giant

615
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: starting offensive line played together for five total quarters in

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Speaker 1: the preseason. They replaced every single one of those five starters,

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00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: including Flowers flopping over to the other side. I told

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00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: you guys on this show and on the MSG show

619
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Speaker 1: in the third week, they should play three quarters, and

620
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: they should play another half in the fourth game. But

621
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Speaker 1: what happened. They played a total of five quarters. I

622
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: would maintain to you that NFL coaches are making a

623
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: horrible mistake by playing their starters, especially their offensive linemen

624
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: so few snaps in the preseason because it was totally

625
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: unrealistic in my opinion, to expect that those five guys

626
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Speaker 1: would perform at a high level in Week one of

627
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: the regular season after playing so few snaps together, especially

628
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Speaker 1: considering that all five parts had been replaced during the

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Speaker 1: off season. Seriously, think about that for a minute, Scott, Okay,

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Speaker 1: and then and then furthermore, furthermore, Odell Beckham did not

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Speaker 1: play a preseason game with Eli, and we could talk

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Speaker 1: all we want, and Eli and O'Dell both said, we

633
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Speaker 1: know each other so well, and we threw a lot

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Speaker 1: of passes at practice, and we threw a lot of

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Speaker 1: passes after practice. But you know what, it wasn't in

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Speaker 1: the game. So is it any wonder that there were

637
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Speaker 1: a couple of passes to O'Dell that was just a

638
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: tick off because maybe their rhythm and they're Polish wasn't

639
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: exactly where it should be because they hadn't played a

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00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: game together since last October. I mean, can we just

641
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: be reasonable here, Well, you have to take that into consideration,

642
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: and Scott, we're gonna let you go on that note.

643
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: Appreciate the phone call. But the other thing that you

644
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: also need to take it to consideration. You know, when

645
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: Scott says, well, if Eli Manning continues to overthrow Adell Beckham,

646
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: you know, when do you get to the point where

647
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 1: something's got to change. But if you go back to

648
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: this last game Paul and Eli even talked about it

649
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: with the media. You know, every pressure is different. You're

650
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: gonna react to every pressure differently. So what you do

651
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: when the Jaguars are running at you is gonna be

652
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: completely different than maybe what you do with DeMarcus Lawrence

653
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: is running after you because the angle of where the

654
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: defensive lineman is coming from it. You know, there was

655
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: another play where he was going to Oldell Beckham and

656
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham got disrupted by the safety who made some

657
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: contact and the route was all the sudden changed correctly.

658
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: The reason I'm saying is Eli and on that point,

659
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: and there was another play that he went to Beckham

660
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: that he overshoot him where he was literally falling backwards

661
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: because he was pressured and how did you get rid

662
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: of the ball. So my my point is if you say, well,

663
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: when are we going to get to the point where

664
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: he stops overthrowing him? You can't really just give a

665
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: bullet point statement like that, because every pressure, every situation

666
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: is different, and Eli is going to have to react

667
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: on the fly. If the route is disrupted, that's going

668
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 1: to impact it. Throw. If Eli's hit, that's going to

669
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: impact it. Throw. So I don't think something like overthrowing

670
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: the receiver is so simple that you teach a quarterback

671
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: fundamentals to overcome all of that. But by the way,

672
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: should we tell people Eli hit his first ten passes

673
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: in the game, okay, which matched the career high by

674
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: started a game. It's hysterical to me that anybody would

675
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: put a finger at him as one of the reasons

676
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: they lost that game. Well, and I don't. I didn't think.

677
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: I didn't take the last caller as direct criticis, so

678
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not saying that. But there were some

679
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: there were some who did not callers, but they were

680
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: I believe, some writers and some others who really wanted

681
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: to put some of the blame at his feet. But again,

682
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 1: look the four drops, two of them which were inside

683
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: the final four minutes in Jacksonville Territory. I mean, are

684
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: you kidding me? It's ridiculous. You want to look at

685
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: the reasons the Giants lost that game on Sunday. He

686
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: is Eli Manning. He's at the bottom of that list.

687
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: It's not even it's it's almost preposterous. Well, that's why

688
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: I always say, if you're looking for one reason why

689
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: a team lost the game, I think you should go

690
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: analyze a different sport, because football is the one where

691
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: exactly you're not gonna come up with a solid answer.

692
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: If you're just gonna go after one player, There's so

693
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: many different things you could point to why they fell

694
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: short against the Giants. Put it this way, coach and

695
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: coach Shula gave you life very good grade out of

696
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: that game, and that's all you need to know. Let's

697
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: head back to the phone lines. Chris is in New Jersey. Chris,

698
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: what's happening? Hey day, Paul, Thanks for taking my call. Hi, Chris.

699
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: We'll tell you about before I event. I just want to,

700
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, say a couple of things. I'm really happy

701
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: with Sherman with the formations, the packages. I mean, every

702
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: standing fresh air to see three different changes. Yeah. And

703
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: the other thing is the seventeen seventeen returning players fill

704
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: last year. I mean we got to go into this

705
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 1: season understanding that this is gonna be a two, maybe three,

706
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 1: but hopefully just a two year you know, to your

707
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: to your you know, making progress here for two years

708
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: to two years to to get this team really on

709
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: paper what gentleman wants. Uh, definitely gonna take some time.

710
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: But with with that being said, you know the frustrating

711
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: part and and going back to last year, and I

712
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: know it's a whole new regime, and we can't put

713
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: this on Sherman, but it would be nice if the

714
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: Giants could get out to a lead into the third

715
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: quarter hold the lead to the third quarter. It seems

716
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: like for the longest time, it just takes a long

717
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: time to generate any type of a spark to put

718
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: some points. It seems like forever we're always waiting too

719
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: for something to happen, and we can't get on the

720
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: board first, and we're fighting and clawing, uh you know

721
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: back well, you know, Coach Shula said today that he

722
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: thought they did get off to a difficult start in

723
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: the game, both with the running game and and with

724
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 1: the passing game, because penalties and miscues at the beginning

725
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: kind of put them in too many long situations, which

726
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: is going to hurt anybody's club. I want to just

727
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: address your first point though for a second. Yeah, it

728
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 1: may take two years forget them to totally remake the

729
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: team the way he really wants it to be. But

730
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: they are trying to retool on the fly, and they

731
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 1: are trying to make the playoffs again, and he lies

732
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: very short and limited window. They'd like to very much

733
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: make the playoffs this year. John Mara has said as much.

734
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: He expects the Giants to be in playoff contention. So

735
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: don't just snuff it off and say, well two years

736
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: down the road. No, they they want to be able

737
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: to do something now. The truth is, as Bill Polly

738
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame front office executive has said

739
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: many times, and I subscribe to the philosophy, you don't

740
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: really know what your team is very often in this league,

741
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: especially one with so many changes, until a month into

742
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: the season. So that's why I've been telling people the

743
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: Giants need to go two and two in the first

744
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: four games and turn it into a twelve game season

745
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: because maybe by October they will know what it is

746
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: that they are and it will be as positive as

747
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman wants it to be. And then at five

748
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: hundred with twelve games, before you maybe maybe you can

749
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: make that whole playoff push a reality, But but you

750
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: gotta tread water through the first four games. That's why

751
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: two and two in my mind, is so critical. You know.

752
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: It's also agree with you. I agree with your points,

753
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: and and I know in this in this day and

754
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: age in NFL, you don't get the time to uh,

755
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 1: you know, to put a team down there to to wait.

756
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: But I guess I'm trying to say is and being

757
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: more detailed with the offensive line, I mean, that seems

758
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be a two year issue that's not

759
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: going to be a fixed this year. I mean, chances

760
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: are Flowers is gonna They're gonna they didn't take up

761
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: the option. Flowers will be gone next year. Amahe still

762
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: who knows what's gonna happen, you know with that right

763
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: guard position. Alipio Alipeo is still you know, he's he's

764
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: basically a rookie at center as well. When played a

765
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: few games, you have a lot of faith. It's still

766
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: gonna be under a lot of scrutiny this year, and

767
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: um that could be you know, some some changes right

768
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: there as well. Next year. There are so many variables

769
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: that can happen between now in April. But if you

770
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: said to me, right now, right now, best guests, what

771
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: are the Giants gonna do with their first round pick,

772
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: no matter where it is in the in the first round,

773
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: I would have to believe it's going to be an

774
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. I agree, but I don't think the Giants

775
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: are necessarily Chris appreciate the phone call in in a

776
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 1: different situation from an offensive line perspective, because I mean,

777
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of teams that turn over their

778
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: offensive line. Indianapolis, for example, brought in two rookies this year,

779
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: Minnesota with Pat Shermer last year brought in two veteran

780
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: free agents, and Riley Reef and Mike Remer's and draft

781
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: at pat elf line. I don't think the Giants are

782
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: on in island where they're the only team trying to

783
00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: incorporate new Faith's correct. It's a league full of parody.

784
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: You hear me use that term a lot. You the

785
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 1: quicksand of mediocrity, which is another one. Yeah, I got,

786
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I always trademark you will collect

787
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: to after the program. I was just referring to another

788
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: term that is thrown out very often here on bb

789
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: k L. So the point is, I don't think the

790
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: Giants are an uncharted territory. It's a lot of the

791
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: league going through transitional phases. They don't necessarily invest in

792
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: offensive lineman and give everybody on the line four or

793
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 1: five year deals. Some guys are on one year deals,

794
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: others on four year deals, and you're gonna have to

795
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,919
Speaker 1: change you just I think the one way to counter that, Paul,

796
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 1: and this is a boil it point statement, is you

797
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: just hope you have some depth so that you can

798
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: deal with some struggles, you can deal with some injuries.

799
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: Those are the teams that keep their head above water.

800
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: Case in point, the Philadelphia Eagles last season. And may

801
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: hurt me to say this for Giants fans, but you've

802
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: got to give credit where credit is due. The reason

803
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: why Philadelphia won the Super Bowl is when you lose

804
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 1: Jason Peters, a Pro Bowl left tackle, and you're able

805
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: to overcome that and all see and make changes on

806
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: the interior and you have a swing guy like Stephen Wiznowski.

807
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: That's how you survive that. So depth is important. It

808
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: should not be dismissed. And that's something that I think

809
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: is gonna tell a lot about how far the Giants

810
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: could go. The other thing I wanted to bring up

811
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: before we get to another phone call. The last caller

812
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: said that the Giants get off to a lot of

813
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: slow starts and they did struggle because of penalties in

814
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: this last game. But you know what's in jurized thing.

815
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: As I'm bringing up some numbers I've collected, Paul, They've actually,

816
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: over the last two seasons at least, and I could

817
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: go further back, have also struggled coming out of the

818
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: gates to begin the third quarter. Last season, the Giants

819
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: their first possession in the third quarter thirteen punts. Out

820
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: of sixteen games. They punked it thirteen times. They had

821
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 1: a field goal, a missfield goal, and a touchdown to

822
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: round out. To see the passion, I don't even want

823
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: to address last year because too many players are gone

824
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: and the entire coaching staff is gone where most of

825
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: them are gone. To me, any trend you're going to

826
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: talk about with the Giants has to start with week

827
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 1: one of this year. And that's fair. I'm throwing out

828
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: last year, I understand. I'm just saying that historically. I mean,

829
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: just from my time covering the Giants, I feel as

830
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: if no matter the coach, and I'm not saying there's

831
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: been a hundred million coaches, but it has been a

832
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: fair struggle in the start of the third quarter. I'll

833
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: go back two thousand sixteen. Granted, I understand this turnover.

834
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: You had eight punts, so half the possessions you punted. Well,

835
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, if you want to start playing the trend game,

836
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: you could also say that over the course of Eli

837
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: Manning's career, he's been very good in the tub and in

838
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: in offense, specifically at the end of a half or

839
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: at the end of a game, but especially at the

840
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: end of a half. But I don't I don't sense

841
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: any reason to do that, because again, it's a different coordinator,

842
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: different head coach, different players on the team. I'm not

843
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: much into going for trends on that situation because so

844
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: much turnover has occurred on this roster. You know, if

845
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: there's a few tweaks, that's one thing, but so much

846
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 1: has been turned over. I think going to trends is

847
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: just poison. It just doesn't make sense. Well, let's let's

848
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: look at it this way. Everyone wants to get off

849
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: to a start. That's stating the ously. That's true. Well,

850
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: what my point is. You know when people call up

851
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: and they're like, well, I'd like to see the team

852
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: get off to a fast start. I don't think Pat

853
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: Sherman's going in the locker rooms and guys take the

854
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: first two possessions off cover. On the third Coach Shula

855
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: just set outside earlier today. It's not like we want

856
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: to score fourteen points on the first two possessions. That's

857
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: not even the goal. The goal is we'd like to

858
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: at least effectively move the ball, to be consistent and

859
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: do something well with it. You don't necessarily have to

860
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: get fourteen points on your first two tries down the field.

861
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: That doesn't necessarily set you up for a good day.

862
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: It helps, it's sweet, it's a luxury, it's dessert for

863
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: your meal. But if you can have to forty five

864
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: yard drives on your first two offensive possessions, that should

865
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: set up a lot of stuff later on in the day. Yeah,

866
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: you just don't want to see the three and outs

867
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: or four plays and you're out. You want to be

868
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: able to go in that position, correct, which is the

869
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: problem that the Giants faced the opener against the Jaguars.

870
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: Let's head back to the lines. Len is in Columbia, Maryland. Len,

871
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: what's hey guys? How you doing? Hey? Lance? First off,

872
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know I'm less frustrated

873
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: today than I was on Tuesday. Well, that's good to you.

874
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: I'm glad that you were able to get a few

875
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: ex hours of sleep. It took a little bit longer,

876
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: but you d if you've got a good look at

877
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys Panthers tape, you'd feel even better. Yeah, yeah,

878
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: there you go. And let me let me let me

879
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: just say a couple of things. Um, and this is

880
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: a no way trying to defend the play of the

881
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: offensive line the other day. But yeah, you know, if

882
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: you look back at a couple of things. Jacksonville had

883
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: ten sacks opening game last year against Houston. You want

884
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: to see a bad offensive line, Look at Houston and

885
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: they just and they just lost their starting offensive tackles,

886
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: both of them. Um. But we'll talk about that next week.

887
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: There's a lot of bad offensive play around the league.

888
00:44:55,600 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: Is another thing I want to say. If the backup

889
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: was better than the starter, the backup would be starting.

890
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: These these these coaches aren't stupid. They're playing they're best players.

891
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: We are playing the best players. That we have on

892
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: the contract. Another thing, I think you've got to give

893
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: a unit, and let's start with the offensive line. I

894
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: think you've got to give it four games before you

895
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: start crushing them. I just think it takes that long.

896
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: I think that's true of any unit, defensive line, defensive backfield,

897
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: et cetera. I think you gotta give it four games.

898
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: That was and and let me and let me say

899
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: I was not happy with offensive line play, but you've

900
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: got you gotta just give it a little bit of

901
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: time anyway for this thing to possibly jail. And then

902
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: we start jumping all over but we're playing our best players. Um.

903
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: By the way, I just want to throw one other

904
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: thing at you, just because not every single play by

905
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: every single offensive lineman was horrible. It was Eric Flowers

906
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: who threw the first key block on barkley six yard

907
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: touchdown run. I just I just want to make sure

908
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: that people did see that didn't close their eyes when

909
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: that play occurred. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I know and

910
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: you're not And I know you're also saying, Paul, you're

911
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: not saying Eric had a great game either. You're just

912
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: saying that there were some plays in there that he

913
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: did make it was a poor game by all five starters.

914
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: And if anybody can't see that or wants to ignore

915
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: that or close their ears to that, then they're being foolish. Uh,

916
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: there's no question it was a poor game for all

917
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: five of them. Yeah, Um, Lance you you you alluded

918
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: to one of the blocks and Ingram through watching um

919
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: watching the coaches tape off of game pass. Um, I

920
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: saw that play and it really was a wild play

921
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: because he laid out Cali Campbell. Yes, did he have Campbell? Yeah?

922
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: I mean, it really was a terrific block. But I

923
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: also want to say that that's really you know, it was.

924
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: It was good to see from Evan, but he he

925
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, he wasn't tight as the tight end.

926
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: He was back behind the line of scrimmage, and he

927
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: was really in a pass pattern. He caught the ball.

928
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: I thought, it's a show first down and maybe more.

929
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna be impressed with my surveying ability here.

930
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: I got. I got Miles Jack at about thirty eight

931
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: or thirty nine yard run in a straight line because

932
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: he was about six or seven yards behind the line

933
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I don't know how he caught England unbelievable speed,

934
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean made and all of a sudden, here comes

935
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: Miles Shack across the field and I got as I

936
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: looked at that tape from the end zone, it looked

937
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: like it was about thirty eight or thirty nine yard

938
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: run in a direct line. Um but he caught Engrad

939
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: and you know he he made a great play too.

940
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: But that was that was really a good ball at

941
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: the beginning. No, you know, no, no, no question about it.

942
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, if we if we play Ellison and I

943
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: like Ellison and I think he's a good blocking titing

944
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't spectacular on on Sunday. He's a good blocking

945
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: tight end. But you know, if you play Ellison, this

946
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: is something I asked when we drafted England, who do

947
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: you take off the field? You know what I mean,

948
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: you Gott you're gonna take angle him off the field,

949
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna take back him off the field.

950
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna take Shepherd off somebody. If you're gonna go

951
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: double tight end. Both tight ends are on the field. Now,

952
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: the question becomes to Shane Smith wind up paying for

953
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: those reps, and as you know, you know that's the

954
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: most likely scenario. Yeah, well, Ellison really didn't play that

955
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 1: much on Sunday as much as I thought he would.

956
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: I don't think he was meant to be a primary

957
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: blocker in any way, although he did make a good

958
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: block on that on that you know, on that Campbell

959
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: play Look onto Onto Dallas, winnable game where we're just

960
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: as good as Dallas. We've gone to Dallas in one games.

961
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: There's no reason to be worre about going to Dallas.

962
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: We've gone down at Eli has gone down there and

963
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: had super games. Were just as good as that team.

964
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: Just like I said on Tuesday, Lands, we were just

965
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: as good as the Jacksonville Jaguars in the fourth quarter.

966
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: We were just as good as the Jaguars in the

967
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. And we're we're just as good as down

968
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: if not better. Well, divisional games are always closed games.

969
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: Heath and Heath and ca Well Xavier Xavier Woods heard

970
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: Cavan Fraser is gonna start. Yeah, you got all this. Yeah,

971
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: it's a rivalry game. It's probably gonna come down to

972
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: the last couple of minutes. Again, they seem too more

973
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 1: often than not. And as you probably also no, Land,

974
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,759
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have won seven of the last ten in

975
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: the series, so it's been rather lopsided for them in

976
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: recent years. All right, let me let me try to

977
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: finish my point about the safeties. They can't cover our receivers. No,

978
00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: they cannot cover. Agree with you, Beckham, And I know

979
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: you had this discussion earlier with somebody throw him the

980
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: ball twenty times. I get that, But there's other talented

981
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: players on this team, best offensive player in professional football.

982
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: Give him the ball. Well, don't when we get into

983
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: crunch time at the end on the forty two and

984
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 1: a half minutes ago in Jacksonville Territory, please don't don't

985
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: give the ball to Jonathan Stewart. God bless him, but

986
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: please please second down run by Jonathan Stewart. Please get

987
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: your best players on the field and we'll let the

988
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: coaches know. Thanks and appreciate the phone call. I wouldn't

989
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: go you got it. It reminds me of conversations that

990
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: we had during the course of the preseason where people

991
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: were worried about, you know, Jonathan Steward, would he make

992
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: the team and would he take away carries from Kuon Barkley.

993
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't think we gotta go crazy over one carry

994
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: where he spelled se Kwon Barkley for a play. I

995
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: don't think that's going to necessarily ruin the outcome of

996
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: a game, or perhaps ruined the ceiling of this offense.

997
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: Let's head back to the lines. Flatbush, Tim is in Charleston,

998
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Flatbush, Tim, what's happening? Hey, how you guys doing?

999
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: First time? Long time? Usually I'm at work, so I

1000
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 1: have to listen to you later in the day. But

1001
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here on my porch smoking a cigar, waiting

1002
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: for Hurricane Flarence, so I have the time to call

1003
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: be safely, be safe, very nice. Well, we appreciate the

1004
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: phone call. So what do you got for us? Tim?

1005
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: All right, well I got I got two quick points

1006
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 1: and then just a little analysis of why this game

1007
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: is so important from a little bit of a different perspective.

1008
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: First off, I feel like if Ingram had caught two

1009
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: of those three passes that he dropped, I think we

1010
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: had a solid chance of winning that game. Second, I

1011
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: was a little surprised that we didn't see more blitz

1012
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: is from Butcher's offense. Um, just you know, I mean defense.

1013
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, uh, just just expecting to see a little

1014
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: bit more maybe with burning out. That has something to

1015
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: do with it. But my larger point is that I

1016
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 1: look at every season this way. I'm always an optimist

1017
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,399
Speaker 1: coming into the season, to particularly this season with all

1018
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: the new blood and the great coaching staff, I always

1019
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: look at it this way. If you're going to make them,

1020
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: if you're gonna win the NFC East four makes or

1021
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 1: make the playoffs as a wild card, you need to

1022
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: go fourg in two in the NFC East. In order

1023
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: to go four and two in the NFC East, you

1024
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 1: have to sweep one of the three teams. And the

1025
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 1: only way you can sweep one of the three teams

1026
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: is by winning your first game against one of the

1027
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: three teams. And thus this game becomes really important because

1028
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: if we win this game against Dallas, then we get

1029
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: him at home, and you know we can. We can.

1030
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: You know, you have to sweep one and split with

1031
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: the other two. Now that being said, Paul, I agree

1032
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: with you coming and even before the loss against Jacksonville,

1033
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: which I thought if we won that game, it was

1034
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: really huge. But coming out of the first four games,

1035
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: if you're two and two, you're good. But because the

1036
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: way I look at this season is you go four

1037
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: and two in the n OFF Seast, and you can win,

1038
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: you to parody games against those other conference, the other

1039
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 1: divisions in the conference, then against the other two conferences.

1040
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: If you go five and three, you know you're just

1041
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: a little bit now, all of a sudden, you've got

1042
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: an eleven win team which you're gonna make the play

1043
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: else hopefully you win the Division two and that even

1044
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: gives you a little room for error to lose one

1045
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: of those games. You open to win and beat ten

1046
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: and six and make the wild card. But you know,

1047
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like beat Dallas. I'm not so worried

1048
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: about owen two as much as if it was it

1049
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: wasn't a conference game, I wouldn't be his worried about it.

1050
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 1: But beat Dallas give us a chance to beat him

1051
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: the second time. Go for and two in the NFC East,

1052
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: and I think that positions us, as you said, two

1053
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: and two after four games. If they can go into

1054
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: the second half of the season five and three, I

1055
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: think they will have jailed and they have a chance

1056
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,959
Speaker 1: to win. Go in six and two in those last

1057
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: eight games. I don't think there's a lot of hard

1058
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: ones there. And and and eleven wins. I think wins

1059
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: the NFC East this year. What do you guys think

1060
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: I'll listening here, Well, I think I don't think it's

1061
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: going to take eleven to win the division, first of all.

1062
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: But the other thing I would say is you always

1063
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 1: hope that the team is going to get better as

1064
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: this season goes on. I mean, that's what every coach

1065
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: strives for. He wants his team to peak during the

1066
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,240
Speaker 1: final month of the season going into the playoff drive.

1067
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: Any team that peaks now in September has got a

1068
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: big problem on their Yeah, I think you want to

1069
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: do it later versus early. There's no doubt about that.

1070
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily dismiss the second half of the schedule,

1071
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: by the way, too, I'm not a fan of just

1072
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: looking at the paper and saying, well, you know, it's

1073
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: not nearly as challenging, because here's the thing. There are

1074
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: some teams that we saw didn't look great in Week one.

1075
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: Maybe they get a player back, they jell too, so

1076
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's very premature. For example, Chicago, you get

1077
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: in the second half of the season. They just got

1078
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack and the defense, by the way, didn't look

1079
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: too bad and they were playing Aaron Rodgers. So just imagine,

1080
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: once Vic Fangio has Khalil Mack for the bulk of

1081
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: the season, what is the Bears defense gonna look like? Then?

1082
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 1: The Redskins, I thought, looked very impressive with Alex Smith

1083
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: under center against the Cardinals. You get them in the

1084
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: second half Tampa Bay, you know, a brand new defensive

1085
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: line with former Giant Jpp. They obviously gave up a

1086
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: lot of points of the Saints, but maybe they need

1087
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: time to gel. It's way too early, I think, to

1088
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 1: start looking through the second half of the season, and

1089
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: it's saying that it's gonna be a cake. Well, that's

1090
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: why you break the season into quarters, and that's why

1091
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,479
Speaker 1: you say, okay, two and two through the first four,

1092
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: you're at sea level. You're a fine, take a deep breath,

1093
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 1: and now move on to the next quarter. And that's

1094
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: really my philosophy on this whole thing. Well, that's why

1095
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 1: you hear coaches always refer to quarters. To your point,

1096
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily look at the big picture. They're like, hey,

1097
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: if we can win every quarter of the season, we're

1098
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna end up with a winning record. That's the point.

1099
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: I agree with the last caller's point. About four and

1100
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 1: two in the division is the easiest route to position

1101
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: yourself to either win the division or get a wild card.

1102
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,880
Speaker 1: No disagreement, undo and two. You have to do that.

1103
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we could go through every NFC East Division

1104
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: winner over the last twenty years. I guarantee you three

1105
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: and three was a very rare occurrence, and I think

1106
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: actually the Giants may have been the rare occurrence where

1107
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 1: the one year they did it, they were three and three.

1108
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: Other than that, you really need four and too. As

1109
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: far as Danida Levin wins to win the division, you

1110
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 1: just said you don't think it's gonna take a life.

1111
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I would probably agree with you.

1112
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: I think this isbably gonna be a ten win division winner.

1113
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: I think ten, though, Paul, I don't think nine and seven.

1114
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: We've had some years where nine and seven does it.

1115
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: I think in an ten at least ten, which of

1116
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: course give or take a break and all of a sudden,

1117
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: eleven is eleven. But I would tend to agree that

1118
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 1: that ten would do it, and it wouldn't shock me.

1119
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: It would not shock me if nine does it. But

1120
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: I think ten is probably your magic. Well, it'll be

1121
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: nine if they really beat each other up. And it's

1122
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,760
Speaker 1: so early. We haven't barely seen any divisional games yet,

1123
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, you can't. You can't really tell

1124
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: me that this division is definitely gonna beat each other up.

1125
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: And you know, if Philadelphia picks up where it left

1126
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,760
Speaker 1: off and Philadelphia, remember, built a lot of separation between

1127
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: themselves and the resident last week against Atlanta that was ridiculous.

1128
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: By the way, you don't get Brownie points out how

1129
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: you win that steam in the division after week one

1130
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: was Washington. They were by far the most and I

1131
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: think a lot of people believe that they're not one

1132
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 1: of the best two teams in the division, but after

1133
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: week one they were the best. Well, which is why

1134
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 1: the paper tester doesn't always lead to me, because maybe

1135
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,399
Speaker 1: Washington will be the surprise team this year. Yes, sir,

1136
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: let's head back to the phone lines. Matt is in

1137
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 1: Rhode Island. Matt, what's happening? Well, first off, I want

1138
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: to shout out to Paul with Snazzy and his shirt

1139
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: and either we were chaping the MSG first Intent show today,

1140
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: so this was not for any other reason. Uh didn't

1141
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: didn't do it to impress the BBK crowd. We just

1142
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: just how to do it for the MSG for you.

1143
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: But thank you, guys. I want to talk about something

1144
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: that's been bothering me for a few years now. Why

1145
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: these NFL teams, not just the Giants, continue to take

1146
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 1: the ball out of the end zone on kickoffs does

1147
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,439
Speaker 1: mind boggling to me. I think we can all agree

1148
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: Lattimer is not a dynamic kick returner. Correct, Well, I

1149
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: would say this, and I understand your point. You're right,

1150
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: he's not necessarily dynamic. But remember, with the changing kickoff

1151
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: rules this year, most NFL people believe that with the

1152
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: lack of wedge blocking that there will be more openly

1153
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: means on the field than there were before, and therefore

1154
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: they believe that by the time this season is over,

1155
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: you will see more kick returns and bigger kick returns

1156
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: than you've seen in recent vintage. So I think you

1157
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: have to kind of put a line at the end

1158
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: of last season and look at this entire two thousand

1159
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 1: eighteen year as a new chapter in kickoff returns. Yeah,

1160
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: that's a fair point that that I'll consider. But like

1161
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: I see that first kickoff on Sunday, the Jackson and

1162
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: they get this field goal. We returned the ball out

1163
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: of our ends and we get stopped on the twelve

1164
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: and that worked backed up against you know, an imposing defense.

1165
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: I don't understand the logic of taking that ball out.

1166
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: I see it all. Quess the end of the amount

1167
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: of this is also pump returns to the amount of

1168
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: penalties you see, Well, you're referring to Matt. You're referring

1169
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 1: to because I brought it up. Landbau kicked at sixty

1170
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: six yards to the Giants negative one, so right at

1171
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: the edge of the end zone, and Latin took it

1172
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: out to the Giants fourteen yard line. He had a

1173
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: fifteen yard return. That's what he ultimately got. Just down it.

1174
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: You're getting a quarter of the field guaranteed to you

1175
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: with no chance of a penalty. Amble getting well, But

1176
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: in fairness, listen, I get your point, and I agree

1177
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: with Paul what he said. And Thomas mcgahey also spoke

1178
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: to the media earlier today said the same thing that

1179
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: with the new kickoff rules, sometimes you're gonna have the

1180
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: flexibility to maybe take a chance. But the Giants are

1181
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,919
Speaker 1: not backed up in the situation that we're talking about,

1182
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: where they get all the way back to their one.

1183
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: I mean, just think about what transpired. First, Flowers gets

1184
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: called for tripping, and then on top of that you

1185
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: get an offensive holding. You got two penalties. Yeah, but

1186
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: I don't look at the fourteen if you don't, if

1187
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 1: you play fundamentally sound football, even if you go three

1188
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,479
Speaker 1: and out, I don't necessarily think that that's putting yourself

1189
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: in a precarious position. Yeah. I understand, But but but

1190
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 1: you know what with Riley Dixon and his strength and

1191
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: is punting ability. Once again, I'm not overly concerned if

1192
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: I have confidence in my punter. Do you have the

1193
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: game book? I don't because I was just gonna say

1194
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: to the caller, I think party of frustration, and I

1195
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: believe if you look at the game book, the Giants

1196
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: only started a drive outside their own twenty five yard

1197
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: line three times. I believe on Sunday, I think. So

1198
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't have the gamebook handy with me. Their average

1199
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: field position was not very good, and I think that

1200
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: partially adds to your frustration on that particular kickoff return,

1201
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: because you're right, it did seem like the field was

1202
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,439
Speaker 1: tilted all day Dallas. Part of the way I believe

1203
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: their average start was the twenty one yard line in

1204
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: Carolina was their own thirty eight in the game this

1205
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: past Sunday. The game of field position really has a

1206
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: lot to do with the flow of the game. Well,

1207
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: but if we're looking at kickoffs for a few years

1208
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: and I watched, you know, it's the retinal. Now you're

1209
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: able to watch a lot more foot than you used

1210
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: to be able and wide that these two it's the

1211
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: best case there. Usually it's like, you know, they get

1212
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 1: to the dirty grade. You got five yards. That five

1213
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: yards is not as damaging as when you get stopped

1214
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: at your own shift. Geena, there's a holding, and it's

1215
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: after this it really makes no sense anymore. Take it out.

1216
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: If the league is trying to eliminate the kickoffs, yeah, okay.

1217
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: And part of the way they're doing it, it's by

1218
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: the balls being kicked deep. And I see these teams

1219
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: taking your three four yards out of the end zone.

1220
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make anything if you don't have a

1221
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: little David Wilson back there. Yeah. And I and to

1222
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 1: be perfectly frank with you, and I'm not trying to

1223
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: be funny here, but I think part of your frustration

1224
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: you're a Giants fan, right, Oh, you better believe it. Okay,

1225
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: I think party of frustration and I totally feel your

1226
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: pain on this is that you know, outside of Ron Dixon,

1227
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: Dominic Hickson, David Meghan for a short time, David Wilson,

1228
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: let's face it, in the last forty years, the Giants

1229
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: have not had dynamic kickoff returners. I mean, you know,

1230
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,920
Speaker 1: when we talk about the Rocky Thompson's of the world,

1231
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: that's very, very painful, and so that you know, I mean,

1232
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: there was a time when Alvin Garrett was actually considered

1233
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: good for the Giants, and let's face it, he wasn't

1234
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: that great at it um you know, Leon Bright and

1235
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: those kinds of guys. So what I'm saying to you is,

1236
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: I think part of your frustration being piled on here

1237
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: is that over the course of the last forty fifty years,

1238
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: the Giants have probably had one of the more pedestrian,

1239
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: if not lowered, tier kickoff return units in the NFL.

1240
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,400
Speaker 1: And if you if you had been a fan of

1241
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 1: a team that returned two or three every year, you

1242
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: might feel differently. Well, I keep in mind also the

1243
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: other times that the Jaguars kicked off was was a touchback.

1244
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: Here Matt so they only had one that they actually

1245
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: returned out of the end zone back I was I

1246
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: was gonna say, they know the other times that the

1247
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: Jaguars kicked off it resulted in a touchback. The Lattimer

1248
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: was the one time that they took it out of

1249
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: the end zone. So we're looking at it one book up.

1250
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: What the Jaguars did. They even did it to themselves.

1251
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't even believe you should return punts.

1252
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: I think you should fair catch every single punt. But

1253
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: I won't even get into that today. But just do

1254
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: yourself as a favorite. Try to keep a track on

1255
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: the league wide the amount of good kickoff returns first,

1256
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 1: the amount of times as you want to get him

1257
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: backed up. I don't think it makes any sense anymore,

1258
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,479
Speaker 1: but my boss is coming and I can't get fired.

1259
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: All right. It's interesting because every time people say, you know,

1260
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: take the conservative route with respect that don't returning it,

1261
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, at the same time, you know, these are

1262
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 1: also the same people that say we don't want Barkley

1263
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: or Beckham returning punts or kickoffs. So you know which

1264
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: way is it here. I don't want to criticize his

1265
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: feelings at all because I do. I do think there

1266
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: is some of the frustration over the Giants not having

1267
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: an historically good kickoff return unit. I really believe that

1268
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 1: has kind of got it his goat a little bit.

1269
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: I know he's trying to paint a wide picture league wide,

1270
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: but you know what, you know, if you had Devin

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Speaker 1: Hester back there, you'd want him to return it. If

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Speaker 1: you add Dion s there's back there were Billy white

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Speaker 1: shoes Johnson back there, you would want them to return it. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's why I'm getting to my point. If you had

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Speaker 1: Barkley or Beckham there, would you be bringing this up

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Speaker 1: right now? No, I'm asking a reasonable question. I'd be

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Speaker 1: jumping through the press box window to get them off

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Speaker 1: the field. Well, see, you see that. But that's my point. See,

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Speaker 1: I am one where I don't care about the risk

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Speaker 1: of injury because if you have your greatest athletes, you

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Speaker 1: put them on the field. Injuries can happen any time.

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Speaker 1: So if you're arguing that they should be conservative because

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Speaker 1: you don't feel they have the threat back there, then

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Speaker 1: my answer is, well, put Barkley or put Beckham back there,

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Speaker 1: and then if your answer is still, well, then I

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Speaker 1: don't want them returning it, then then what options are

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Speaker 1: you giving yourselves. Yeah, I'm I'm basically to the point

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Speaker 1: where and maybe it's because I've seen the Giants be

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Speaker 1: so pedestrian added for so many years, I'm basically to

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Speaker 1: the point where take the ball to And I have

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Speaker 1: no problem with the philosophy. But if you really are

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Speaker 1: in a desperate situation, in an emergency situation where you

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Speaker 1: really do need to do something, Okay, go ahead, try

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Speaker 1: to return it. But more times than not, I'm probably

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Speaker 1: just taking taking No. I would be completely fine if

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Speaker 1: they took a knee on every single kickoff, but I

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Speaker 1: also like to roll the dice a little. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any problem with giving your athletes an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: And you know, as I said to the last caller,

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Speaker 1: I think what frustrated and even more Paul is the

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Speaker 1: tripping and the offensive holding penalty on top of taking

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Speaker 1: it out on the end zone. If they don't get

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Speaker 1: the tripping and the offensive holding, it doesn't And so

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Speaker 1: that's what I think made it look evenway. And with

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Speaker 1: that we got that will wrap up today's edition A

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Speaker 1: we should tell people we did not get a chance

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Speaker 1: to say it before. Genora's je excused for personal reasons

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Speaker 1: from practice earlier today, So in case you see that

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Speaker 1: he did not work, don't panic. Personal reasons, family issue.

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Speaker 1: The Giants excused him. Hopefully everything is okay and he'll

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Speaker 1: get it taken care of. Absolutely. We'll get into more

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Speaker 1: on that front tomorrow's edition to Big Blue Kickoff Live

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Speaker 1: for Paul de Tino, I'm Lance Monto. Enjoy the rest

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Speaker 1: a good one.