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Speaker 1: At least, is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Man. Welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson, and

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Speaker 3: it is a chili Thursday here in Pittsburgh. The wind

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Speaker 3: blowing quite steadily across Mount Olympus up here in Bridgeport

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Speaker 3: or Bridgeville, I should say, and uh, yeah, the rivers

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Speaker 3: down by the rivers's very cold. But man, I thought

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Speaker 3: today to kick off the show, we would do something

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Speaker 3: we typically do when the Steelers play a team that

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Speaker 3: maybe a lot of our listeners aren't super familiar with.

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Speaker 3: No position by position, these two teams and how they

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Speaker 3: measure up.

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Speaker 2: There's not many teams that are better positioned by position

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Speaker 2: than this Philadelphia Eagles squad.

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Speaker 3: So we'll start at wide receiver. Obviously, no George Pickens there,

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Speaker 3: but the Eagles of Devonte with AJ Brown Johan Dotson,

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Speaker 3: who's done nothing for them this year.

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Speaker 2: It's a strange move.

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Speaker 3: Johnny Wilson, a Nia Smith.

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Speaker 2: I like those two down the road. I mean they're

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Speaker 2: late picks. They're like polar opposite to each other. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think Brown's a top five receiver. I would say

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Speaker 2: Smith is a top fifteen to eighteen receiver. I don't

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Speaker 2: know what to think of Dotson, but he's out of sight,

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Speaker 2: out of mind. They don't throw, and you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's the thing. They don't throw the ball. It's crazy

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Speaker 2: how little they throw. I mean, and the trends are

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Speaker 2: even getting harsher and harsher, and they're deep into games

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Speaker 2: they don't throw.

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Speaker 3: They're paying these two guys a boatload of money to

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Speaker 3: not throw the football.

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Speaker 2: I know, I would look at it real quick. But

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Speaker 2: some of the you can cut, like AJ Brown's apparently upset,

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Speaker 2: you know, or whatever, you know, and go forty four

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Speaker 2: catches this year, I know, and which is kind of crazy.

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Speaker 2: But they're winning, you know, Like yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 2: understand receivers kind of a selfish position by nature and

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Speaker 2: should be. But he has six he has fifteen second

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Speaker 2: half targets over the last nine games. Yeah, Like, I mean,

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Speaker 2: they're putting teams away, but like, I haven't been fantasy.

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Speaker 3: It's like when we were talking to Bob Labriola yesterday

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Speaker 3: and he mentioned, you know, AJ Brown and all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, but they don't really throw the football.

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Speaker 2: They don't throw the football.

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Speaker 3: They threw twenty one times last week against Carolina in

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Speaker 3: a game that was back and forth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, entire game. You think of them like, oh, just

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Speaker 2: sitting on the ball in the second half. No, they

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Speaker 2: just are good at running it and they're not great

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Speaker 2: at throwing.

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Speaker 3: And I think they're really kind of trying to limit

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Speaker 3: Jalen Hurts a little bit because when they came out

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Speaker 3: of this season, they were throwing the ball.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, until they're week five by and everything changed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they kind of realized that's not the way we

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Speaker 3: want to play. They were three and two at the

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Speaker 3: buye and like, Okay, maybe we got to change this up.

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: And we got Saquon Barkley. Yeah, they're like the anti Ravens.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens go games where.

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Speaker 2: Where they forget the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: They forget they have Derrek Henry. You're saying, you know,

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Speaker 3: then they'll give it to him twelve times.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of Bengals, that might be the only receiver pairing.

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Speaker 2: I would take over this one. Some good ones out there.

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Speaker 2: Rams trying to think who else off the top of

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Speaker 2: my head, but Bucks went healthy. I'd take these guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean Brown carries a lot of weight. Addison's come

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Speaker 2: on from Minnesota too. Yeah, yeah, Dolphins, but they're right there.

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Speaker 3: If the Steelers had Pickens in this game, I would

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Speaker 3: I would have him ahead of DeVante Smith.

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Speaker 2: That's a close one for me. I just think he's

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Speaker 2: a more dynamic.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Smith is a he's a burner and yeah, you

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Speaker 3: know he can he can take the top off. But

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Speaker 3: I think Pickens does more stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think Smith's a really really good show. I think

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Speaker 2: they're both.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying either one of them saying that I

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Speaker 3: think Pickens is better, though.

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Speaker 2: I get you. I would think Smith is easier to

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Speaker 2: play against. I mean Pickens is a nightmare to play. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because of his size and body control and bad balls

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Speaker 3: But obviously you have to give the edge to the

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Speaker 3: Eagles here, tight end. They don't have Goddard. The Steelers

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Speaker 3: have an obvious advantage.

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Speaker 2: Here, right. Who do they have behind Calcitara?

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Speaker 3: CJ Azuma okay and E. J. Jenkins okay.

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Speaker 2: I mean Calcitara is okay, and he seems the factor

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Speaker 2: in when Goddard's out, But I mean he would be

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Speaker 3: A zooma is a blocker. If he's on the field,

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Speaker 2: That's probably the worst position group now I think about it.

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Speaker 2: It's not good.

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, the offensive line will go left to right.

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Speaker 3: That Jordan Mylatta, Landon Dickerson, Cam Jurgens, Mackay, Beckton, Lane Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Obviously the two tackles are are two of the best

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Speaker 2: I think Dickerson's really good too. Yeah, they've gotten a

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Speaker 2: lot out of beck then he's trying to rejuvenate his

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Speaker 2: career as a guard. I would take the Eagles line

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Speaker 2: of Steelers. You take it over every line except.

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Speaker 3: The I mean it's a really good line. But if

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Speaker 3: you go man for man, I'll take Fraser over.

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Speaker 2: Yes, McCormick and Beckon are probably a wash, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would have to study Beckton, but I mean i'd

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Speaker 2: probably give it to Beckon. I mean he's been around

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Speaker 2: longer and former first round pick. But I mean he

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Speaker 2: was rough with the Jets. A lot of that was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was just a non entity running back. I

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Speaker 3: mean Saquon Barkley Kenneth Gamewell. Sure will Shipley.

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Speaker 2: they seem to like gain Well, and I guess he

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Speaker 3: Like well, they drafted Shipley this year in the fourth round.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was higher than I thought he'd go too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe he is that guy, but I've seen a lot

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Speaker 3: The most interesting position here's quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I give the edge of Steelers. I do too. That

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Speaker 2: might chalk people, and I might be in a homer

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Speaker 2: at all. I think Hurts has some concerns, limitations.

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Speaker 3: There's a reason why they're throwing for so few yards

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Speaker 3: with with two of the best wide receivers, maybe the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're trying to limit.

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Speaker 3: What he does, his exposure because when he throws a

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Speaker 2: Bad things happen. And it's not that he's careless with

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Speaker 2: but he's just not real sharp and that does I'm

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Speaker 2: not mean like he's dumb. I just mean, these things

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Speaker 3: I think teams his first run through the league, I

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Speaker 3: think teams are trying to, Okay, how do we how

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Speaker 3: do we defend this guys? I think I think.

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Speaker 2: Teams strong tendency.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think teams have kind of figured out some

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Speaker 3: some tendencies here and they're playing them against him, and

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Speaker 3: he hasn't adjusted yet. And when you're only throwing the

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Speaker 2: Right. He's not a great red zone passer. He doesn't

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Speaker 2: he's really really strong. Yeah, but I don't think he's twitchy,

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Speaker 2: you know, like he's not the same as like Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen's twitchier than him, you know. I mean he's a

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Speaker 2: not all that accurate. It's just he's late with the

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Speaker 2: would definitely rather have Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Wilson, he's a good player. Wilson's better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, clearly this year I was asked on a

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Speaker 2: different podcast you know, there's so many good quarterbacks in

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Speaker 2: the AFC, like the who the give me your top five?

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Speaker 2: In the NFC, he didn't crack it. I mean, especially

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Speaker 2: if like you count Dak and some of the guys

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Speaker 2: Love and there's he's middle of the road for his conference.

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Speaker 3: To me, yeah, I would agree, And you know that's.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they always have huge Super Bowl aspirations. He's

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Speaker 2: the thing that would worry me most.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I was kind of surprised, you know

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Speaker 3: him what what they did with the previous did with Wentz. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: with Wentz, they just said, you know, we're just gonna

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Speaker 2: Because yeah, you know, I actually another podcast was a

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Speaker 2: like one of the top Dynasty quarterbacks. This scor is

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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, I would not invest in that, you know,

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Speaker 2: because I could see the Eagles doing the same thing

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Speaker 2: to him because now that he's expensive, what if they

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Speaker 2: draft one the second round sneakily next year, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, and he's a good preseason and next

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Speaker 2: year after that they get bumped into wildcard and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I've seen this, I've seen this picture before, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean some of their guys, you know, Let's

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Speaker 3: let's say Lane Johnson decides he's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Hang it up at Yeah, he's not gonna be around

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Speaker 3: You know, things like that happen. They're still gonna be

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Speaker 3: a good team. They've still got some good pieces, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll be their quarterback in the

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Speaker 3: Let's let's take a look at the defensive side, because

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Speaker 3: this is where it's interesting. This is the number one

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Speaker 3: defense yardage wise in the NFL. The defensive line, Milton Williams,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Day is Jalen Carter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's good, it's real good. Carter is a star.

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Speaker 2: I think Hayward's a little better than Carter right now. Though,

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Speaker 2: So if we I will take Benton over Davis, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think Gogan, Jobie and Williams are kind of a

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Speaker 3: And the depth is Moro A Jomo and Thomas Booker.

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Speaker 3: I like the Steelers' depth. He's is better there as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the Steelers big guys over there. But

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Speaker 2: there are good. They're good.

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Speaker 3: They're not as good as you know, Jalen Carter. If

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Speaker 3: if we're drafting defensive lineman for the next ten years,

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Speaker 3: I might start. I might start with Jaylen Carter. If

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Speaker 3: we're drafting for this weekend, I'll take Cam Hayward all

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Speaker 2: Maybe over anyone walking the plan.

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Speaker 3: Rest of this season and maybe next season, right right,

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Speaker 3: So you've got the Steelers defensive line against their offensive line,

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Speaker 3: What I mean about the Steelers offensive line. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: if that's if that's what the Steelers are going to

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Speaker 3: But that again makes them get big and it keeps

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Speaker 2: Of the snow Yeah, and he's not Stamina is not

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Speaker 3: That was his issue coming out of college. He was

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Speaker 2: Jalen Carter is coming out next year. They got Win

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Speaker 2: always winning by a million in the fourth quarter. Why

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Speaker 2: also like three hundred and seventy pounds, you know, like

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Speaker 3: To like three forty three and like that's being very kind.

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Speaker 2: That must have been his combine weight or whatever when

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Speaker 4: No. You know.

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Speaker 3: I was talking with Wolf today and he thinks that Davis,

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Speaker 3: when he comes up, he comes up, he comes up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and especially as the game goes on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I mentioned Vea and Nauda because they

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Speaker 3: Milton Williams, the other defensive end is the exact opposite.

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Speaker 2: Six to one right right right, like in Nickel on

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Speaker 2: third and eight, he's gonna line up next to Carter. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was a supreme tester at the combine.

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Speaker 3: But first step, yeah, all that good stuff. He's got

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Speaker 2: As heavy, I mean a lot smaller, but yes, exactly

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Speaker 3: Yeah, good athletes. So those outside linebackers, the Steelers have an.

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Speaker 2: Advantage there all across the defensive front.

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Speaker 3: The inside backers with Zach Bond and the Kobe Dean

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get that to the Eagles. And I think

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Speaker 2: I'm not exaggerating. I think Bond has been the best

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Speaker 2: Bond has been unbelievable. So he would be my number

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Speaker 3: Here's here's the thing, though, I'm not there with Dean yet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think the next three guys might be Steelers.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. That's a tough one. I think I'm

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Speaker 2: Dean over Wilson. Queen's definitely my second choice. Dean's got

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Speaker 2: rare speed, but he's not a take on player, and.

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Speaker 3: Landon Roberts makes plays yea, yeah, I know. And this

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 2: There's not many off the ball linebacker groups. I'd take

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Speaker 2: Like I bet the Saints are like, oh, let him.

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Speaker 2: I mean he was like a special team or third

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Speaker 3: I think it's.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I might think it's close. I might

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Speaker 3: I think it's very close. I think it's very close

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Speaker 2: And three verse two has some weight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know they and they play all three

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Speaker 3: of their guys like I don't know that if if

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Speaker 3: Jeremiah tro I think Burks is just a specialty. That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a little shock date took Trotter. I

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Speaker 2: mean maybe it's the Joey Porter d you know legacy

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Speaker 2: A cornerback.

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Speaker 3: You got Darius Slay, You've got Quinya and Mitchell. They

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Speaker 3: also there. They got a lot of cornerbacks. They don't

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure why they're structured the way they are.

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Speaker 2: I'll take their corners. I'm gonna call Mitchell and Porter

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Speaker 2: a wash of young guys that are really, really promising.

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Speaker 2: Sleigh would then be my next choice, then probably the Jeene.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Jeene's really good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which again is why I would want to get

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Speaker 2: Roster is built right right right.

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Speaker 3: They got all these cornerbacks, they don't have all these

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Speaker 2: I'd love to hear an explanation, because I'm sure there's

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Speaker 2: more than any defense in the league. I don't it

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Speaker 3: Well, here's part of the problem is that they're probably

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Speaker 2: That's one thing I will say, is it just the

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Speaker 3: And there's also only so many teams. I mean, most

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Speaker 2: That most of the teams the league never don't even

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Speaker 2: play thirteen. You know, like if you look at all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's one of the things with Arthur's still.

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Speaker 2: Shocking to me at their number one you're you're.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Steelers have kind of zigged this season

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Speaker 3: all these receivers. Receivers and when you get big, it

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Speaker 2: It's like the Ravens with Ricard or you know, it's

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Speaker 3: When the Steelers. Steelers say, well, spent the entire twenty

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Speaker 3: to play more man defense. We've got to get lighter

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Speaker 3: inside linebacker. And here come the Jaguars and two hundred

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Speaker 3: you just hammerd loudging you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. And that's one of the beauties of like

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Speaker 2: go this year this year, it's this way this year

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Speaker 2: at all. You got Ayuk and you got Debo, and

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Speaker 2: you got Kittle, and you got McCaffrey and you got

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Speaker 2: and those opposing defenses aren't used to playing the same

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Speaker 2: five and a fullback that can split out. So this

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Speaker 2: Steelers are absolutely a weird week of peap you know.

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Speaker 2: And I still don't understand why would every offense come

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Speaker 2: I mean if they lose almost every time.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's a safety position.

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Speaker 4: You got J.

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Speaker 2: It's fine, but it's not as good.

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Speaker 3: It's not as good as the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, CJ. Gardner Johnson reminds me of the third line

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Speaker 2: possibly can on here. Yeah, I mean he's in the corners, digging,

437
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 2: sticking people when they're not looking.

438
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Speaker 3: He's the guy that gives you the sideways eye glance

439
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,440
Speaker 3: when they're if the official is looking, and then spears

440
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Speaker 3: you in the ribs.

441
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Speaker 2: And you love him when he's on your team, and

442
00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 2: you despise him when he isn't. But he's you put

443
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Speaker 2: the fucking on that a little bit too. He's okay,

444
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 2: blanken Ship's fine. He's one of their weaker.

445
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:40,280
Speaker 3: If you look at their their defense, Gardner Johnson has

446
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,520
Speaker 3: three interceptions. Blankenship has three interceptions. None of their other

447
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:45,800
Speaker 3: defensive backs have an interception.

448
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Speaker 2: I don't know why the takeaways are so low right there.

449
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Speaker 3: Are they a heavy man team or do they play

450
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Speaker 3: more zone? I think they play more zona with I

451
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Speaker 3: think so too.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of.

453
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Speaker 3: Interceptions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have a great answer for it, because

455
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 2: they have a pass rush. I mean they have you know,

456
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Speaker 2: linebackers that can run and cover and you know, eat

457
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Speaker 2: up space and tip balls and yeah, you know, pick

458
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Speaker 2: the ball off off tip balls. So hopefully that doesn't

459
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Speaker 2: start this week. But and Fango devises stuff, you know,

460
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Speaker 2: the confused quarterbacks and baitcha and all that kind of

461
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Speaker 2: stuff too. Here's the one thing. So Russell Wilson talked

462
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Speaker 2: today to the media and he mentioned that he's played

463
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Speaker 2: Fangio a lot, my bet, and there's so many replicates.

464
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Speaker 3: While yeah, yeah, going back to Fango's days is the

465
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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers defense.

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Speaker 2: With the Niner days, right, that was a huge rivalry.

467
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Speaker 3: Right, so you know this isn't a defense that he

468
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Speaker 3: is unaccustomed to seeing.

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Speaker 2: No, And it's almost like Shanahan's offense too that everyone's copying,

470
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Speaker 2: you know, off his tree, so you see it a lot. Yeah,

471
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 2: he's just the he's the lebo of it all, you know.

472
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Speaker 2: I mean he's the first one to come up with it,

473
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Speaker 2: you know, and really make it an institution.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so that that part of it's interesting.

475
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Speaker 2: So it's not.

476
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Speaker 3: Yes, the the Eagles have some advantages, oh yeah, but

477
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Speaker 3: it's not the Well, they're just better in everything, no,

478
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Speaker 3: no situation.

479
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Speaker 2: And you know, but our exercises linebackers, there's linebackers that's

480
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 2: not you know, like you said, Okay, Steelers D line

481
00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: is better than their D line, but is their D

482
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,800
Speaker 2: line better than Steeers O line. That's a plane, yeah, Carter, Yeah,

483
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Speaker 2: you know, one of the big ones that is frightening.

484
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Speaker 2: But as we've talked about all week is their corners

485
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Speaker 2: versus this group of Steelers receivers is a massive, you know,

486
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Speaker 2: Eagles advantage. So don't put a lot of receivers out there,

487
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Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, it's because everyone else has, doesn't mean

488
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Speaker 2: you should.

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Speaker 3: Man, that doesn't ye. Everybody jumps off.

490
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Speaker 2: The bridge, right, Yeah, the bridge. I'm gonna go the

491
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Speaker 2: ridge to.

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Speaker 3: Punter, it's Braydon Man. The place kickers, j Jake Elliott.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's had a good career but not having a

494
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Speaker 2: good season.

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Speaker 3: And the return guys they used the gene to as

496
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Speaker 3: a punt return He's really good. He's been pretty good there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then get Kenneth game Well and Will Shipley are

499
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Speaker 3: their kick retail guys and they haven't been great.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought Ania Smith might be a returner for them.

501
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Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's even active all the time on

502
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Speaker 2: game Yeah, he's not even listed on the depth chart returnabilities.

503
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Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, yeah, I'll definitely take.

504
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Speaker 3: So team Steeler special teams are just better across the board.

505
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Speaker 3: In fact, you know when we talk about winning in

506
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Speaker 3: the margins, that's one way you can win this game

507
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Speaker 3: in the margins. Man's had a pump block this year,

508
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Speaker 3: you know, so that's something maybe you can take advantage of. Yeah,

509
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Speaker 3: you know, you start looking at their depth at some

510
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Speaker 3: different positions, and I don't think there's especially deep. I

511
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Speaker 3: don't think so either. Yeah, if they run into a

512
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Speaker 3: couple of injuries going into the playoffs, that could derail them.

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Speaker 3: That's the one thing about this particular Steeler team that

514
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Speaker 3: you you really have to give Omar Khan credit for.

515
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Speaker 3: And it showed up on Sunday against the Browns. You know,

516
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Speaker 3: when you're when George Pickens is suddenly out, we're bringing

517
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Speaker 3: up guys who Scotty Miller's a six year veteran, Guys

518
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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 2: They don't have that, No, not as much. The guys

520
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: that they're playing without right now are Graham and Goddard. Yeah,

521
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,479
Speaker 2: you know they're but that's not too bad this time

522
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Speaker 2: of year. I mean, you're a week into December and

523
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: you're really only missing two starters.

524
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean you look at the backups and

525
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 3: it's just like, eh.

526
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, some of our developmental guys. Yeah,

527
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Speaker 2: they have a cool strategy. I have a lot of

528
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Speaker 2: respect for this organization. I like how they team build.

529
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Speaker 2: They also their owner more than just about anyone out there,

530
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Speaker 2: will cash spend too, you know, like that's a nice

531
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Speaker 2: advantage too. But one thing they do a lot, and

532
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Speaker 2: Jordan Malatt is like the poster boy for this, is

533
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Speaker 2: in those six and seventh rounds when it's just they

534
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: could take a safety or you know, they look for

535
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Speaker 2: total outliers like I'm gonna take the rugby guy that's

536
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Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty pounds that can run and see

537
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Speaker 2: if you can play left tackle and give them the

538
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Speaker 2: really good O line coach. You know, sometimes it hits,

539
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 2: and if it hits, it hits big. Yeah. So they

540
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Speaker 2: take some they take some chances, you know, with personnel

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Speaker 2: and things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but again I just don't know that they're a

543
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Speaker 3: super deep team. They get some frontline stars and yeah,

544
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Speaker 3: you know you're paying some of those guys a lot

545
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Speaker 3: of money. Oh yeah, you're paying two receivers. What is

546
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: it like fifty million this year?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet it's over that well, probably right about that.

549
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Speaker 3: Yeah, to not throw the ball to him, I know,

550
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Speaker 3: it's a strange strategy cutting.

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Speaker 2: And you can see why Brown's a little frustrated. Yeah,

552
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Speaker 2: I'm like, I know him good and I'm open on

553
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Speaker 2: tape a lot, and we're not throwing the football.

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Speaker 3: It's even got the fifty catches this year.

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Speaker 2: I know it's bonkers. Yeah, miss time too. But he's

556
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Speaker 2: there number one by far. Yeah, not a one, A

557
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Speaker 2: one B thing I was in there.

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Speaker 3: He gets a I would have Maker rolling his way

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Speaker 3: a lot, and you know, just kind of attacking it

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Speaker 3: that way, and you know, just telling the whoever's on

561
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Speaker 3: you know the other side with DeVante Smith, Hey, you're

562
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Speaker 3: not going to get a lot of help here. Yeah,

563
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Speaker 3: you better hope the pass rush gets there and you

564
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Speaker 3: better stick with him.

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Speaker 2: And you could, I guess you could do the Belichick

566
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Speaker 2: thing where you put your number one corner on then

567
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Speaker 2: I'm or two, you know, like they did with Higgins

568
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Speaker 2: and Chase and then double and then rolled in one direction.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's gonna be a j Brown's a

571
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Speaker 3: physical matchup issue, regardless of who's on him.

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Speaker 2: Really well built, physical break arm tackles, rugged at the

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Speaker 2: catch points, kind of looks like a running back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Court runs like one too. Yeah, runs through arm

575
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Speaker 3: tackles and things like that that you can't let him

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Speaker 3: take over the game. He hasn't done that.

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Speaker 2: No, that's gonna say why he's frustrated, right, He's highly capable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, I think you know, if they

579
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Speaker 3: want to try to come out and run the football,

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Speaker 3: have at it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't think there's a whotle lot of

584
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Speaker 2: mystery with how this offense wants to play. I mean,

585
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Speaker 2: they just keep going deeper and deeper and heavier into

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Speaker 2: their tendencies. Yeah. So it works.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's worked thus far for him. But it plays

588
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Speaker 3: to the way Mike Tomlin might want to play this game.

589
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

590
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Speaker 3: Are you gonna turn this into a bare knuckle fight?

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Speaker 2: All right? Like my team's very capable of doing that

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Speaker 2: as well. I k ring. That's just my.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's one thing you can say about this

596
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 3: this Steelers roster is that they've shown this season. Okay,

597
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Speaker 3: you want to turn this into a seventeen sixteen game,

598
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: we can we can do that. Turn into a track meet,

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00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 3: we can do that.

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Speaker 2: In this instance. I really think you're doing the Steelers

601
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Speaker 2: a favor if you do that, because your defense is

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Speaker 2: going to be competitive with their offense, I think, no

603
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: matter what. Yeah, and if you can, that allows me

604
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,239
Speaker 2: to live with them some three and outs while I'm

605
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: landing body blows, hand at the nausea and wearing down

606
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Speaker 2: the Jordan Davis is of the world, and it's three

607
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Speaker 2: nothing after the first quarter. All right, all right, Yeah,

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00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: we're in a ball game. Yeah, it's not like I

609
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: don't think you want to play this one like the Bengals,

610
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Speaker 2: you know, first one to forty wins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's almost like you know, with without Jordan,

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Speaker 3: without pickings out there, you don't have your overhand right

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Speaker 3: right right, you know you're not you can be able

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Speaker 3: to land the knockout blow, probably not, but you can

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Speaker 3: land a bunch of body blows.

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Speaker 2: Hang around until the end and vision. Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 3: So that's where you're at.

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Speaker 2: Hey, we're going to get to a break.

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Speaker 3: When we come back, we're gonna supposed to be joined

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Speaker 3: by Steelers linebacker Peyton Wilson. So while you get that

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Speaker 3: going for you here, we'll be back with more. He's

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly, you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: At least is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamsison on your twenty four to seven home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold in Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio, and welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: we're pleased to be joined on the Justin Miller Hotline.

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Speaker 3: Bye another Miller or I'm sorry Wilson, I should say

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Speaker 3: what am I thinking here? Peyton Wilson, Steelers inside linebacker

632
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Speaker 3: having a tremendous rookie season fifty five total tackles, one

633
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Speaker 3: interception that will stand out maybe throughout the course of

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Speaker 3: his career with how remarkable that play was and just

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Speaker 3: has been all around the ball all season long. Peyton,

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Speaker 3: how are you today?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 2: How are you guys doing fantastic?

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Speaker 3: We are doing great. Do you still get asked about

640
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Speaker 3: that interception against the Baltimore Ravens a few weeks ago?

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Speaker 3: Do you still do people still send that one to

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Speaker 3: you because a had happened against the Ravens and but

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Speaker 3: b it happened at a huge time in the game.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I still see the clip a lot,

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Speaker 4: But you know, you try to keep the past in

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Speaker 4: the past. That was a while ago, so I would

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Speaker 4: love to get another play and put that one in

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Speaker 4: the past. But yeah, I mean it was a big moment,

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00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 4: so people still bring it up, and uh, it was

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Speaker 4: just a big moment.

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Speaker 2: So I got to know NC State guy, we are

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Speaker 2: we cool with Belichick going to the rival or not?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't care. They're still gonna lose, so

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Speaker 4: I like it. I mean I don't really care, like

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Speaker 4: the like the like the quarterback said over there, they

656
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Speaker 4: can get where they want. It doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like it. Peyton.

658
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Speaker 3: Last week, I'm sure you saw Bill Kauer at the

659
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Speaker 3: Steelers practice there on Friday before the before the last

660
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Speaker 3: game there. Did you get a chance to go over

661
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Speaker 3: and say hello to Bill? And had you met him before?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've actually met him. That was probably my fifth

663
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Speaker 4: time like talking to him in person over the course

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Speaker 4: of my time in NC State. Came back a few

665
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Speaker 4: years and last year he was actually there twice. He

666
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Speaker 4: got his name honored nar Ring of Honor last year

667
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 4: and this year at the practice. I went over to

668
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Speaker 4: him and spoke to him. So just it's awesome to

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Speaker 4: you know, kind of have him in my corner with that,

670
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Speaker 4: with that NC State tie, and just the person that

671
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Speaker 4: he is on and off the field that had to.

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Speaker 3: Coming to the Steelers, you know, where he had coached

673
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Speaker 3: for so long. And I'm sure I heard him talk

674
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Speaker 3: about you before, like Bill Kauer loves linebackers. Bill Kher

675
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Speaker 3: was a linebacker. I'm sure when when when he came

676
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Speaker 3: to n C State, he probably look you up immediately

677
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Speaker 3: because you're a pretty good linebacker and he stayed.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have to know. I mean, I don't

680
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Speaker 2: think it's a great secret or we're divulging a whole

681
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Speaker 2: lot of behind the scenes stuff here, but this Saquon

682
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: Barkley guy is pretty talented and pretty good. I mean,

683
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Speaker 2: studying him all week, can you find yourself like getting

684
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: in fan mode and going wow, you know, or you

685
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Speaker 2: know what kind of challenges does he present?

686
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Speaker 4: Yeah? Well with the fan mode, Dang, it's honestly been

687
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 4: really cool for me this whole year because each week

688
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 4: it's like that almost not you know, you're in the NFL,

689
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Speaker 4: so you see wow.

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Speaker 2: Moments from everyone.

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Speaker 4: But I mean Saquon Barkley is obviously you know, like

692
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Speaker 4: PEQ said a few days ago. He's kind of got

693
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Speaker 4: that crown right now. He's the best running back in

694
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Speaker 4: the league and he's playing like it, and you know,

695
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Speaker 4: you just have to s gimatically execute. And it's more

696
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 4: so about guys getting off blocks and tackling and gang

697
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: tackling because a lot of times one person can't bring

698
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 4: someone like that down. So just getting a lot of

699
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: guys to the hats going to be Getting a lot

700
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 4: of hats to the ball is going to be important,

701
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Speaker 4: and just you know, playing and executing.

702
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Speaker 3: You mentioned Patrick Queen there, and of course you also

703
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: have a land of Roberts at your position. You got

704
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: Cole Holcome waiting in the wings, you Tyler, Tyler, Matta

705
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: Kaevich here, just a bunch of guys at that position, uh,

706
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Speaker 3: for for you as a rookie to learn from, and

707
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: a lot of different skill sets as well. What's just

708
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Speaker 3: been like for you, you know, being able to learn

709
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Speaker 3: from guys.

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Speaker 4: Like that, Yeah, it's been awesome. You know, p Q

711
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Speaker 4: and I Rob they've just been extremely i mean just

712
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 4: generous and awesome to me and the way that they've

713
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: kind of took me in, you know, taught me the game,

714
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: the way that they see it through their eyes. Just

715
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: the way that they play and the way that they

716
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: talk to each other and the meetings rooms is super cool.

717
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 4: And just you know, being able to learn from them

718
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 4: and play beside them. I'm just grateful for it. They're

719
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 4: amazing teammates and amazing players as well.

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure if all of our listeners know this,

721
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: but the Steelers are basically the best defense in the

722
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 2: league at limiting quarterback rushing yards. And is that more

723
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: of just getting a lot of hats to the ball?

724
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Speaker 2: Is that a pass rush plan? Is that something you

725
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: guys think stress more than other defenses? I mean, do

726
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: you have a reason behind that? And obviously that's really

727
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Speaker 2: big for this week with Jalen Hurts.

728
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think a lot of that is

729
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Speaker 4: just past Tomlin and his experience. He's been doing it

730
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Speaker 4: for so long. I mean he I mean he told

731
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Speaker 4: us not too long ago when playing Lamar, like he

732
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 4: grew up in a conference where he had to play

733
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Speaker 4: Michael Vick. So I mean, just you know, having to

734
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Speaker 4: you know, deal with that his whole life. He does

735
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Speaker 4: some great things in that area. And then, like you

736
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Speaker 4: just said, of course, I mean when you're playing people

737
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Speaker 4: like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts. I mean in our in

738
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Speaker 4: our division, by itself, I mean Jamis Winston, Deshaun Watson

739
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 4: when he was playing with so many mobile quarterbacks in

740
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: today's league, you definitely have to ask skimatic as well

741
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 4: as you know guys that are just willing to get

742
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Speaker 4: off blocks and make plays.

743
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Speaker 3: So as a rookie on this team, we've gotten to

744
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: see here for the fans have gotten the curtain pulled

745
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: back the last couple of weeks with the with the

746
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: HBO show coming in. Have you found yourself yet kind

747
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: of saying any of the Mike Tomlin isms yourself yet?

748
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: Or have you not been here long enough to fall

749
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Speaker 3: into some of that? Because I talk to guys in

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Speaker 3: the locker room all the time I've been here, Mike's

751
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: you know, entire career, and you'll hear every once in

752
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 3: a while somebody will say, you know something that you

753
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Speaker 3: know it came straight from Mike Tomlins.

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Speaker 2: If you cut.

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Speaker 4: Yourself, yeah, I mean you only got to be around

756
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: that guy for about two hours to catch on to

757
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 4: his what people call tomlinism. So I've definitely been around

758
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 4: long enough that you know, somebody says him to me

759
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: and I almost hit him with them, but I have

760
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: to catch myself all right now, you know. But now

761
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 4: just the you know, credit to him and the consistency

762
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 4: that he brings, and just for me, it's more so.

763
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: It's willing to to treat everybody from top down the same.

764
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's willing to call out the best of

765
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Speaker 4: the best the same way he is willing to call

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Speaker 4: out somebody that's on a practice squad. It's just how

767
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 4: he is. And you know, he's an amazing coach and

768
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 4: just seeing it firsthand is it's truly unbelievable. It's pretty

769
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 4: exciting to get to see some people get to see

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Speaker 4: just a glimpse of it with the hard knocks.

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Speaker 2: Peyton, please don't make me. Please don't think that I'm

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Speaker 2: implying that you're hitting a rookie wall. But I'm curious,

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Speaker 2: could you understand how rookies might I mean this late

774
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: in the season, the physicality, the strain of going through

775
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: the Combine and all the draft stuff and then your

776
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: first training camp. Could you see how rookies do hit

777
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: a wall around this time of year.

778
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, definitely, it's a long season, but I mean,

779
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 4: luckily for me. I mean, I mean what I think

780
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 4: is the best sports town in all of the world

781
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: now that I'm here. It never really goes out. You

782
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 4: never kind of really get that fill of like, oh

783
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 4: I gotta go do it again. And just I mean

784
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 4: the energy that we have in that building every day.

785
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 4: I mean, we have guys like Cam Hayward, TJ. Watt,

786
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: and you know we're chasing a goal for ourselves, but

787
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 4: really for guys like that, So for me especially, like

788
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: there's no time to hit that rookie wall, like we

789
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 4: have goals do we have to reach and there's just

790
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 4: no time for any of that.

791
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Speaker 3: Well, we know you're short on time as it is,

792
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: so we will let you get back to doing your

793
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Speaker 3: studying for the Philadelphia Eagles. Huge game this week with

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Speaker 3: the Eagles to cross state rival. Our guest has been

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Speaker 3: Peyton Wilson, Steelers inside linebacker. We appreciate you stopping by

796
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 3: and good stuff Peyton, and good luck on Sunday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks so much.

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Speaker 3: That was a Steelers linebacker, Peyton Wilson having a great

799
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Speaker 3: rookie year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and you you can tell why he has

801
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: such a good head for the game too. He has

802
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: a real good feel about him. You saw that on

803
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 2: tape at NC State. I mean, he's pride in his

804
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: alma mater. I mean, I think they found themselves a

805
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Speaker 2: good one.

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00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 3: There, absolutely. And you know, if you look at this

807
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: this rookie class, you know, omark On did a great

808
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: job last year and his guys identifying the needs and

809
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: and and what would help make this team better. And

810
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's if you look at this

811
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 3: group this year, they might even be more impactful than

812
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: last year's group. And the first round picks went out though,

813
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: and the first and you haven't had your first round pick. Yeah,

814
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: I think that it's a debate. At least Fraser is

815
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,399
Speaker 3: a plug and play starter that goes a long way.

816
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: Didn't count on McCormick, but he's fit right in. Of course,

817
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: he was that guy that when they draft him, I'm like,

818
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: always have that extra lineman. They really need draft three

819
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Speaker 3: of them. Well, I'm pretty glad they.

820
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Speaker 4: Did, you know.

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Speaker 3: And Wilson's been a fixture on the defense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and more I think about too, Roman,

823
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Speaker 2: Wilson hasn't been in the mix to your high picks

824
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: have been injured, you know.

825
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've still gotten those kind of contributions out

826
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: of those guys. It's it's it's been pretty tremendous. And

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Speaker 3: I you know, I just mentioned when we were going

828
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Speaker 3: through the roster per roster, you know the depth pieces

829
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: that that con went out and got this the veteran

830
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Speaker 3: depth pieces, and yet you're still getting big contributions from

831
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Speaker 3: from some of these young guys. This is our first

832
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: time around this whole thing.

833
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if ten years you look

834
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 2: back at this team and be like, wit, look at

835
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: the two back to back. These are two foundational drafts,

836
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: right and happy with a third one on top or

837
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Absolutely changes the franchise pretty quick.

838
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but we got to get to a break. That

839
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Speaker 3: was some good stuff there from Peyton Wilson. But he

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Speaker 3: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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842
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,400
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844
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,840
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845
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,200
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00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,120
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847
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,239
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848
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849
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just check that out on so check that one out.

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857
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858
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 3: looking at the injury report for today, Matt for the

859
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 3: steal if we don't get for whatever reason, the Eagles

860
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 3: didn't send out their injury report last night until like

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00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 3: six thirty almost seven.

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00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: We said that are the rules on that? I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I mean obviously.

864
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Speaker 3: Yeah, at some point, and that's when they got released

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Speaker 3: to us yesterday. Uh so, Uh, Patrick Queen was resting yesterday,

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Speaker 3: he was back today.

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Speaker 2: Good.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And I should note.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday they practiced outside in the snow during the snowstorm.

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Speaker 3: Today they moved back inside, I think because there was

872
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: some ice on the practice fields, a little bit of

873
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: snow cover on that kind of stuff. George Pickens, of

874
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: course did not practice again today. He's not gonna d

875
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen, right. Mike Williams was a return

876
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: he returned, He rested yesterday, so he was a full

877
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: for just spent today. Same with Nausee Harris.

878
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: There was a bunch of wrestlers yesterday, right, Yeah, Okay.

879
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: Deshaun Elliott, dealing with a hamstring issue, did not practice

880
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 3: again today.

881
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: Hmmm, that would be a big one.

882
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: That would be a big one for you.

883
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: A big one. Yeah, So it was really good. See

884
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: when that goes better than people want to give him

885
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: credit for too though, Yeah, it would be a downgrade,

886
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: but that's something monitor.

887
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 3: Landon Roberts got the rest day today. Inside you want

888
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: to take care of his knees. Same thing with Michael

889
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: Pruett and corderyol Patterson.

890
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 2: I would think our new buddy Peyton Wilson got a

891
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: lot of attention to day then.

892
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: So the older guys because they were indoors on the turf,

893
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: a little easier.

894
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: On this on their knees.

895
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Montrevious Adams a full participant again today. So I'm

896
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: betting he gets activated this week.

897
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: I'm hoping. I mean, I think his window, I don't

898
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 2: think they're gonna let him go back to IR. I mean,

899
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: he's gonna play at some point for the Steelers. Him

900
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: and Trice are the ones I'd like to see, Yeah,

901
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: and then try it the Trice stuff. It's hard to

902
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: get on the field right now.

903
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 4: Right.

904
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 3: Somebody tweeted that when when he was uh placed on

905
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: the an active list on on game day, and somebody

906
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 3: tweeted at me, I can't believe he Trice is inactive today.

907
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, how many corners are you gonna have? Who

908
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: do you make it inactive?

909
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 3: Tell me it can't be Pierre, right, It's not Pierre

910
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 3: because he's your gunner.

911
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, and so you have to you know,

912
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: it's a puzzle what you can just not have backup

913
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: offensive lineman that game?

914
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 3: Right, you know, there's it doesn't mean they don't like him, Yeah,

915
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: there's give and take there. And quite frankly, I mean

916
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 3: he's played like five games in his career in two

917
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: seasons like that.

918
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: As intrigued as you want about him, but he's got

919
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: to be better than you know, especially with Dante Jackson's

920
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: contract coming up, you'd love to have a lot of

921
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: tape on him. Oh, he's just gonna step right in there,

922
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: cheap replacement, but it don't really how it work.

923
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 3: We talked to Dante Jackson last week. I think he

924
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: can get Dante Jackson.

925
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: Back here too, Oh, I would think, so yeah, yeah, yeah.

926
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: I mean I think you can make that. Yeah, where

927
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 3: we are. Oh so Montrevius Adams, I think he gets

928
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,919
Speaker 3: activated this week because Larry Ogan Joby didn't practice again today.

929
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 3: Now he doesn't practice a lot during the week as

930
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 3: it is because he's an older guy.

931
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: A lot of Wednesdays he sits, but they didn't list

932
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: the resting vet thing on him. They didn't put that

933
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: on him today.

934
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 3: It's still the groin injury.

935
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: I think he only played like ten snaps in that

936
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: game before going.

937
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, he got got, he got hurt, then he went out,

938
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 3: He came, tried to come back in, played for a

939
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 3: couple of snaps and they shut it down.

940
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: So this isn't a knock on him at all either.

941
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 2: But it's also his contracts. Yeah, in flux going forward

942
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: to is a big cap hit, but that's not where

943
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 2: I'm going with it. But I wouldn't mind seeing Adams

944
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: on the nose, Benton and Hayward being on each side

945
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: of him and see what that looks like.

946
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that could be, you know, in the mix,

947
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: what you might see if Ogunjoby can't play, because that

948
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: gives you your best three guys on the field right

949
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 3: right right.

950
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: In my opinion anyways, Yeah, of the remainder guys, right,

951
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: I think that's the best way to do it.

952
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Benton next to Hayward. I'm throwing down too,

953
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 3: you know. And you still have some other guys there

954
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 3: that you can mix in and do some stuff with.

955
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: Isaac Sayamalo full partent spent today after being a rest

956
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: day yesterday.

957
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 2: The rest often.

958
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, same thing with t J. Watt today. He was

959
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 3: back out there again today. Cam Hayward didn't practice again today,

960
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: but again that's what he doesn't practice, like, hey, does that.

961
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: Right, Mike.

962
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: Mike tom On a couple of weeks ago called him

963
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 3: the captain of the swim team because Hayward's practice is

964
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 3: now going into the pool getting water therapy, hydrotherapy, So

965
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: he's the captain of the swim team.

966
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: Poke at him a little bit, right, It's whatever, Yeah,

967
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: I mean, however, you got to manage that. I'm good

968
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: with it. Yeah, you're fine. Keep doing it, keep him

969
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: as fresh as possible. You keep doing what you're doing.

970
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: So I hope people don't think, man, why are they

971
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: rest in all these guys? It's a big game. You

972
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: can't take it easy against the Eagles because they got

973
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: three games in eleven days. You know, like you're going

974
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: to have to really manage these guys bodies. It's going

975
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 2: to be a chore. And the strength and conditioning staff,

976
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: the medical staff mixed with the coaches. There's an art

977
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: to this, and way over my pay grade, but that

978
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: that's something that could be really important for these next

979
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

980
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: Well, and the key key to this is to me,

981
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 3: is that a lot of these guys who are the

982
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: quote unquote resting veterans are veterans like, they don't they

983
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: don't need a ton of practice time. Yeah, I mean,

984
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 3: what's TJ. Watt getting out of, you know, a practice

985
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: on a Wednesday that he can't get? Oh this is

986
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: the game plan? Okay, I get it.

987
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and every one of those guys. I'm sure

988
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: people are like, but they don't have any injury designations. Yeah,

989
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: but their ankles are killing them. They've got this bruise,

990
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 2: that's this big on them. They have been, they have

991
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: they have things that are hurting. Trust me.

992
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 3: This is like I see the injury reports for other

993
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 3: teams of course when the Steelers are playing them and

994
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: you see a lot of younger guys. Well, we're resting him,

995
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 3: you know this week.

996
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: Load management, Yeah, that.

997
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 3: Kind of stuff. And to me, that's where you run

998
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 3: into some of these issues with sloppy playing things that

999
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: you know, he's a second year guy and you're giving

1000
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: them a rest, right.

1001
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: That doesn't fly around here. And I think that that

1002
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: plays to fourth quarter stamina and toughness, the mentality and

1003
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: why it's a better second half team than first half team.

1004
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: And I don't even mean that in the course of

1005
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 2: a game. I'm talking about the course of a season too. Yeah, yeah,

1006
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: for sure.

1007
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, just managing you know a lot on

1008
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: load management. You're gonna see even more of this over

1009
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: these next few weeks here.

1010
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm real curious what the practice reports will be

1011
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: like these next three games. It's gonna be not gonna

1012
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: get much.

1013
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: But you know, I talked to Fraser and McCormick about

1014
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: this for my five for Friday this week, about how

1015
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: they're going to manage the three games in eleven days,

1016
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 3: and I think they both learned a little something about

1017
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 3: that kind of situation with the short week for the

1018
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: Browns game the first time.

1019
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 2: Okay, first time they did.

1020
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: First time they'd never done anything like your Yeah.

1021
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: I mean you didn't do it in high school. You

1022
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: definitely didn't do that. You know, the colleges they both

1023
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: went to, that's a crazy environment. Yeah, that's a good point,

1024
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: so you kind of learn how to deal with that

1025
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: short week and your prep. I mean, even though for

1026
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 2: the cam Heywards and TJ. Watts of the world, three

1027
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 2: and eleven is gonna is a rarity. I mean, it's

1028
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: just a flat out rare the only.

1029
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 3: Good thing, and people are complaining about that, and I

1030
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 3: get it, sure, but the opponents are all also doing

1031
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 3: the same.

1032
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: That's nice thing about it. It's not like how the

1033
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: Ravens have this great rest thing going all year. I mean,

1034
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 2: it was smart and the right thing to do. I

1035
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 2: have something I have some issues with the schedulers overall.

1036
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: It's an easy job to build an NFL schedule, but

1037
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: at least the.

1038
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 3: The four teams involved on Christmas are also playing.

1039
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: Saturday Saturday, right and Criss Cross you know and do that.

1040
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: So that's fair then, yeah, it has a little fairness.

1041
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 3: You're never going to be completely fair because somebody still

1042
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: has to travel.

1043
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: As I say, the two teams traveling on Christmas Day,

1044
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: or they have to travel Christmas Eve, actually traveling Christmas Eve,

1045
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: and they're on the road Christmas Day on a very

1046
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: short week, even though they played a day earlier and

1047
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 2: everybody else.

1048
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank goodness that's not the Steelers because that was real.

1049
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: But still you got to travel to the next three

1050
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 2: weeks either way, but at least it's not Christmas Day.

1051
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: My mom was asking me about that and I'm like, yeah,

1052
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 3: I get we got three games in eleven days. And

1053
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: she's like, you said one of the games and I

1054
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 3: said Christmas.

1055
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: She's like, you getta play. They got to play on Christmas.

1056
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, this is the third time since twenty

1057
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 3: fifteen or whatever we've ended up playing on Christmas.

1058
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, that's terrible. It could be worse.

1059
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: We could be on the road. It could be on

1060
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,919
Speaker 2: the road. There's a fifty chance that goes even more wrong.

1061
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe this will get them out of having

1062
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: to play on Christmas Day for the next few years anyways.

1063
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: Man, then they'll throw them on Thanksgiving or done a

1064
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: lot of that. Yeah exactly. Yeah, you just you're a

1065
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 2: really popular team. You just learned to deal with it.

1066
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 2: So Jacks don't have these while they go overseas. Yeah,

1067
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 2: and Cardinals and teams like these don't have But the

1068
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: Browns don't have to deal with this whole lot. No, no,

1069
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:37,959
Speaker 2: they don't.

1070
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to a break. That's going to do

1071
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: it for our number one of the drive here on

1072
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be back

1073
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 3: with our number two right after this