Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome back to the Dave Pash Podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm your host ESPN and Arizona Cardinals play by play
Speaker 1: announcer Dave Pash. We have been on a break, but
Speaker 1: we are back in a big way our Cards Camp
Speaker 1: Kickoff edition with Colt McCoy, the presumed starting quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, depending obviously on the health of Kyler Murray.
Speaker 1: And we'll talk with Colt about what it's like going
Speaker 1: into training camp as the starter.
Speaker 2: It's a cool feeling, like I don't take it lightly
Speaker 2: that there's only thirty two guys to get to do this.
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go back and play football right I'm
Speaker 2: ready to see what this team can do.
Speaker 1: Colt will also talk about Drew Petsing, the new offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: and play calling, some of the differences in this offense
Speaker 1: compared to what he's used to, as well as some
Speaker 1: of the things that Colt did in the offseason, including
Speaker 1: broadcasting some USFL.
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Speaker 1: time for our conversation with Cardinals quarterback Colt McCoy. So, Colt,
Speaker 1: forgive me if I'm a little rusty, because it's been
Speaker 1: a while, not only since I've done a podcast, but
Speaker 1: since I've done a game. In fact, in the last
Speaker 1: two months, you have called more games.
Speaker 2: Than I have.
Speaker 1: My last TV game was Phoenix Denver Game six, and
Speaker 1: then I did Eastern Conference Finals for ESPN Radio. But
Speaker 1: still that ended before your two games for NBC. First,
Speaker 1: tell me about that experience. And I actually did NFL
Speaker 1: Europe like twenty years ago, and they would have current
Speaker 1: players as analysts.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys after that were like, I'm never
Speaker 1: doing this again, or some were like I can't wait
Speaker 1: to do this again.
Speaker 2: Where are you? Yeah? That is crazy. Yeah, I called
Speaker 2: a couple USFL games in June, and you know what,
Speaker 2: outside of the travel, I had to travel to Canton,
Speaker 2: Ohio and Memphis, both cool, little cool towns, but just
Speaker 2: you were in the middle of OTAs. So I would
Speaker 2: leave on you know, probably Friday, after a Monday through
Speaker 2: Thursday week. My wife loved that, you know, and just
Speaker 2: trying to navigate how to get there. A couple of
Speaker 2: my flights got canceled. You know. I ended up getting
Speaker 2: to Canton, Ohio like two in the morning, and then
Speaker 2: we were there was a Saturday game at with a
Speaker 2: noon kickoff, and so I missed like the production meetings
Speaker 2: and you know, all the stuff that goes on before
Speaker 2: the before that actual game. But once I got in
Speaker 2: the studio, I loved calling the games. Like I didn't
Speaker 2: know how I was going to feel during it or afterwards,
Speaker 2: but I just I really enjoyed, you know, that vantage
Speaker 2: point and talking to Paul Burmeister actually had him both times.
Speaker 2: He was fantastic. He helped me a ton along the way.
Speaker 2: Our verbal communication skills were pretty good. We we had
Speaker 2: a great time together and calling those games was fun.
Speaker 2: I just enjoyed seeing both sides of the of the field,
Speaker 2: you're talking defense. You know, when you play a football game,
Speaker 2: you know, you go out there and try to execute
Speaker 2: everything as well as you can. Then you come off
Speaker 2: to the side and you know, you look at the iPad,
Speaker 2: you get a little break, you kind of talk about
Speaker 2: what's coming up next, and then you go back out
Speaker 2: there and do it and you know you might get seven,
Speaker 2: eight nine drives a game. You know, during a broadcast,
Speaker 2: there is no break, like I had a two minute
Speaker 2: bathroom break at halftime, because in the TV timeouts, the
Speaker 2: producers in your ear at halftime, you're you're giving a recap,
Speaker 2: you're talking about what's coming next, all the pregame stuff.
Speaker 2: You're you know, you're prepping and your you got your
Speaker 2: board out in front of you and you're, you know,
Speaker 2: making sure you're good with all the names and you
Speaker 2: know what the talking points. I mean, it was a
Speaker 2: ton of fun. Like I could see myself, you know,
Speaker 2: if I had the opportunity, you know, down the road
Speaker 2: to call some games, you know, I think I I
Speaker 2: would really enjoy it.
Speaker 1: And you were saying that before the first game. I
Speaker 1: think we were texting about this. The power went out
Speaker 1: in the booth right before you guys went on the air.
Speaker 1: Everything went down.
Speaker 2: Dude, there was there was a forty five minute delay
Speaker 2: of the kickoff because the the entire system was down.
Speaker 2: So you know, obviously the producers and those guys are
Speaker 2: in studio back wherever that is. But all the equipment
Speaker 2: at the game went out. The generator went out, the
Speaker 2: backup went out. I don't know what was. All I
Speaker 2: know is that the kickoff was to lay. Guys are
Speaker 2: ready to warm up and they go back inside. And
Speaker 2: you know, it was my first game and so there
Speaker 2: was a I didn't really know any different. It ended
Speaker 2: up being me and Paul just calling the game like
Speaker 2: we saw it. You know, you can kind of throw
Speaker 2: out all your preparation. You know. The cool thing about
Speaker 2: the USFL is you get the quarterback and head coach
Speaker 2: or play caller communication, so you can hear the play calls,
Speaker 2: and you can hear the quarterback step in the huddle
Speaker 2: and call the play and like, you know, as as
Speaker 2: a guy who's played quarterback for a while, you can,
Speaker 2: you know, by the end of the first quarter, second quarter,
Speaker 2: you can pick up like what some of these plays
Speaker 2: are and be able to talk about them. And I
Speaker 2: had done some film study on both of these teams
Speaker 2: that had a pretty good idea of what their offenses
Speaker 2: were like, and that was out the window right the
Speaker 2: telestrator who that I had tried to practice on, and
Speaker 2: you know, you drop a few things and oh, I
Speaker 2: hear a play. I know what this play is. Let
Speaker 2: me let me draw it up out real quick. That
Speaker 2: was out. So me and paulog just called the game
Speaker 2: like we saw it, and I thought it went great.
Speaker 2: Like I didn't have the equipment, but I was kind
Speaker 2: of nervous about using that kind of stuff anyways, And afterwards,
Speaker 2: you know, the producers and everyone were just like, it's
Speaker 2: never like this, like, don't worry about like that was
Speaker 2: really hard. I was like, hey, I thought I thought
Speaker 2: it was. I thought it was great, Like I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Well, if you can get through that and you can
Speaker 1: do a USFL game where you don't know who a
Speaker 1: lot of the players are going into it and you
Speaker 1: can do anything, it gets I have always felt it
Speaker 1: gets much easier the higher level you do because you
Speaker 1: know who the players are as opposed to you may
Speaker 1: have known some of the names, but it's not like
Speaker 1: their household names, and there's probably not a lot of
Speaker 1: film on these guys for you to study.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're mostly just watching games. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: faces that you recognize though, especially from coaches. You see
Speaker 2: coaches that you've played against or maybe played with that
Speaker 2: are that are still coaching. And then there's there's four
Speaker 2: or five guys on each team that I had remembered,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe playing with in a preseason or playing
Speaker 2: against that you remember their names. Like, it's still good football.
Speaker 1: You're used to having somebody in your ear as a quarterback,
Speaker 1: although fifteen seconds on the play clock that stops. How
Speaker 1: often did the producer talk to you right before you
Speaker 1: were going to speak and how did you handle having
Speaker 1: that voice in your ear?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely unique, right because most of the time
Speaker 2: that he's talking to you, you're already talking. You're already
Speaker 2: you're in your six to seven seconds given the recap
Speaker 2: of what just happened on that play, and he's either
Speaker 2: talking to you about I want you to use the telestrator,
Speaker 2: tell me a little bit more expand on this highlight
Speaker 2: number forty eight whatever, like as you're talking. So that
Speaker 2: part is hard because you know, it took me a
Speaker 2: first half probably to get used to that. But then
Speaker 2: it's almost like, Okay, I expect this, like let me
Speaker 2: just let let me follow whatever the producer's lead is
Speaker 2: and where he wants me to go, because he's certainly
Speaker 2: trying to take care of me. He's certainly trying to
Speaker 2: help me. He's not trying to throw me off. And
Speaker 2: you know, different than you know, if I have the
Speaker 2: the play caller calling a play to me right now,
Speaker 2: you know, into my headset like I can give one
Speaker 2: wave and just some I got it. You know, I
Speaker 2: got I got to play like we're good. And I'm
Speaker 2: never stepping in the huddle and calling the play while
Speaker 2: he's still talking in my ear like I that would
Speaker 2: be that would be crazy. So the communication, you know,
Speaker 2: I think the more you do it, the more you
Speaker 2: get used to it. It was certainly there was some
Speaker 2: growing pains at first, but it was still a ton
Speaker 2: of fun. I mean when I got in the booth
Speaker 2: and I called the games and you know, you get
Speaker 2: in a flow with the play by play guy with Paul,
Speaker 2: it was fun.
Speaker 1: So between the broadcasting and obviously the offseason work with
Speaker 1: the team and now did you get a chance to relax?
Speaker 2: Do you feel refreshed.
Speaker 1: Do you have a particular routine that you do in
Speaker 1: the off season leading up to training camp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I feel like I'm in a really good place.
Speaker 2: You know, I think there was a little carry over
Speaker 2: into this offseason from the end of the year last year,
Speaker 2: right played through a bunch of injuries, had the concussion
Speaker 2: against Denver, and you know, missed the last couple of games,
Speaker 2: and you know, then all your coaches get fired, you know,
Speaker 2: the front office, you know, a lot of those guys
Speaker 2: get let go. And I think there's just the NFL
Speaker 2: is hard no matter how long you've played. I've played
Speaker 2: for fourteen years, and I've seen a lot of different things,
Speaker 2: and you know, last year was just really tough, Right, Like,
Speaker 2: we had tons of high expectations across the board going
Speaker 2: into the season. Last year, we worked really hard, and
Speaker 2: you know, you just you guys start getting hurt, and
Speaker 2: you know, in key positions, and you lose a couple
Speaker 2: of games, and it just it just kept getting worse
Speaker 2: and worse and worse and worse all year, and then
Speaker 2: it ultimately ended with you know, some of my best
Speaker 2: friends and and people that I love and care about
Speaker 2: and and you know, are close with get fired, right,
Speaker 2: and so like you know, then you know, you have
Speaker 2: a little off season surgery and like it just those
Speaker 2: things just add up emotionally, and I think when the
Speaker 2: off season started, I just I wasn't in a great
Speaker 2: place because I was, you know, physically, I was getting
Speaker 2: better and better each day and I felt better, but
Speaker 2: emotionally I just was still I don't know what the
Speaker 2: word would be, probably just like sad, you know, like
Speaker 2: it just a little bit of a little bit of
Speaker 2: a funk, a little bit of a fog, like you
Speaker 2: work so hard to you know, make something happen. And
Speaker 2: I know that there's a lot of guys in this
Speaker 2: building who felt the same way. And you know you're
Speaker 2: just you're sad when it doesn't work out because you
Speaker 2: you give, we give our life to this, right. And
Speaker 2: so after the off season program like it was still good,
Speaker 2: Like I still you know, we're learning a new system
Speaker 2: where we've got new guys, new faces. They're all great,
Speaker 2: Like love them all, and I love the energy that
Speaker 2: this new staff brings, that Moni brings like it by
Speaker 2: no means it doesn't have anything to do with that.
Speaker 2: It was just it's all new and there's a learning
Speaker 2: process that has to take place. And I think this
Speaker 2: break was really good for me. Right, I was able
Speaker 2: to get away and I was able to just spend
Speaker 2: some time with my family. It's worked really hard, and
Speaker 2: it just allowed me to, uh just mentally and emotionally
Speaker 2: get in the right state of Hey, I know, I
Speaker 2: know what what it takes to you know, get ready
Speaker 2: for another season in the NFL. This is a hard game,
Speaker 2: this is a this is tough, Like there's nothing easy
Speaker 2: about it. There's long days, there's there's hard days, there's
Speaker 2: good days, there's it's physical, it's emotionally draining sometimes like
Speaker 2: being able to like be above all that and handle
Speaker 2: all that in the workload, and you know, understanding that
Speaker 2: the ultimate goal is to go out there and win
Speaker 2: without winning like it's it's a it's not successful like
Speaker 2: that takes a lot. And I feel like this break
Speaker 2: really really helps me get into that mode. And and
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like I'm in a really really
Speaker 2: good place as we as we get started here. And
Speaker 2: I'm also really excited good.
Speaker 1: We always get out of the country when I'm done,
Speaker 1: because I go like nine nine and a half months
Speaker 1: hard travel, uh, and so traveling for me in the
Speaker 1: US is work, so we try to get out of
Speaker 1: the country for a few weeks, and we do that
Speaker 1: pretty much every summer. But I always try to do
Speaker 1: one new thing, like learn something new or do something
Speaker 1: different each summer. I didn't this summer. One thing I
Speaker 1: thought about trying, and I've never liked it is country music.
Speaker 1: Sell me on why I should start listening to country
Speaker 1: music as my new thing, because the summer is not
Speaker 1: officially overcult there's still.
Speaker 2: Time, there's still time. Well, I'm a big country music guy. Man.
Speaker 2: Sorry to tell you, I know you are, but I
Speaker 2: will say that you know I grew up that way, right.
Speaker 2: I grew up listening to nineties country, and if any
Speaker 2: song of Brooks and Dunn or George Strait or Garth
Speaker 2: Brooks or Kenny Chesney, like, if any of that comes on,
Speaker 2: I know all the words, and that's just what That's
Speaker 2: just what we listened to when I was growing up.
Speaker 2: And in fact, I think I probably like nineties country
Speaker 2: a little better than the country that's out there right now.
Speaker 1: But all the all the folks are good, Like those
Speaker 1: guys you mentioned I have heard of. I just can't
Speaker 1: tell you any other songs.
Speaker 2: I mean, you hear George straight on the radio, you
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta tip your cap. This is how it goes.
Speaker 1: You do that while you're in the car. You're driving me,
Speaker 1: just tip the cap if you hear if he comes
Speaker 1: on his.
Speaker 2: I make sure my kids see that too, Like you
Speaker 2: know what you're listening to here? Country Royalty. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: he's king a country.
Speaker 1: So should I start there or should I start with
Speaker 1: the newer country singers?
Speaker 2: Well? Probably the newer country singers. I mean these guys
Speaker 2: are very talented. I mean country music nowadays has a
Speaker 2: little bit faster beat, a little bit better rhythm. You know,
Speaker 2: you can you know it's it's not pop, but it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's still still country. And then just dip
Speaker 2: your toe into like some of the old school stuff,
Speaker 2: like some of the nineties country. Maybe go a little
Speaker 2: further back and give you a little Willie Nelson and
Speaker 2: Waylon Jennings and you know, go down that path. Just
Speaker 2: see what you allright, I don't think I don't think
Speaker 2: you be disappointed.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, look, there's I just have never been
Speaker 1: able to get into it. But I haven't had a
Speaker 1: lot of friends that listen to it either. My wife
Speaker 1: doesn't listen to it. So I think it's just kind
Speaker 1: of part of like where you grow up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what you listen to as a kid,
Speaker 2: what your parents listen to, what your friends listen to,
Speaker 2: and then it kind of just go from there. All right, Well,
Speaker 2: I listened to a lot. That's something new.
Speaker 1: You like it, Well, I said, I, that's usually each
Speaker 1: summer there's a goal of something different. I just summer's
Speaker 1: not officially over, so maybe we'll try it. One of
Speaker 1: the one thing you used to do in the off
Speaker 1: season back when you were younger, was at tend manning camp.
Speaker 1: And one of my best friends in the world, who
Speaker 1: was the same age as you, who I worked with
Speaker 1: for four years and has moved up the ladder at
Speaker 1: ESPN as the number two college football analyst, is Greg McElroy.
Speaker 1: And I believe you, Greg, Sam Bradford, and Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: all roomed together one summer. And I also believe that
Speaker 1: two of the four were very delinquent and the other
Speaker 1: two and you were one.
Speaker 2: Of these two.
Speaker 1: We're at home sleeping as you should, getting your rest,
Speaker 1: being serious. One of the delinquents might have been Greg
Speaker 1: and the other might have been Andrew, is that true?
Speaker 2: That is great? That is great that you dug all
Speaker 2: that up. Bradford was my roommate. Sam and I are
Speaker 2: the same class. I never actually attended the Manning Manning
Speaker 2: Academy camp like as a camper, but I did go
Speaker 2: as a counselor. They usually grab like, you know, four
Speaker 2: or five six guys maybe that are in their junior
Speaker 2: senior year to come out and work the camp. And
Speaker 2: I think that's a really really cool tradition. I know
Speaker 2: they're still doing it now. I mean there's you're going
Speaker 2: out there to think it's Thibodeaux, Louisiana and it is hot,
Speaker 2: like we can complain all we want about Oh it's
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen degrees out here, Like no, it's
Speaker 2: down there. It is humid and hot, and the kids
Speaker 2: do not care. It's a ton of fun, and the
Speaker 2: Mannings do it the right way. I remember landing in
Speaker 2: New Orleans and Arch would would pick pick us up
Speaker 2: and when drive us down, explain to the camp, and
Speaker 2: it's gonna be fun. You know, Cole, you and Sam
Speaker 2: are going to room together. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: like you do the camp and then there's a lot
Speaker 2: of extracurricular activities throughout the rest of the week which
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with football. From what I understand,
Speaker 2: the only the only rule is you gotta you gotta
Speaker 2: be back ready for camp the next morning, like what
Speaker 2: whatever happened. So there's a lot of a lot of
Speaker 2: a lot of fun stories, a lot of getting to
Speaker 2: know guys, and it's a it's a great time fair.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 1: You don't have to I know the story, and I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't tell it anyway, so it's probably better that
Speaker 1: you don't. Speaking of college football, Uh, let's start with
Speaker 1: Texas because obviously you're one of the Texas legends. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Archie I think you were talking about right before.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I meant to say Archie. Yeah yeah, Archie.
Speaker 1: But arch arch Manning is now at Texas. Quinn Yours
Speaker 1: is the starter. What are you hearing about arch What
Speaker 1: are you hearing about that room and that team because
Speaker 1: they have a huge game week two against Alabama.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I haven't stayed as plugged in as
Speaker 2: as probably people think that I have. I went back
Speaker 2: to the spring game this year, took my kids first
Speaker 2: time they had been in the stadium at ut which
Speaker 2: was pretty awesome. Like we we had a great time.
Speaker 2: They couldn't believe it. And the stadium wasn't even you know,
Speaker 2: fully sold out. It was it was the spring game,
Speaker 2: so it was still a ton of fun. But I've
Speaker 2: I got to spend some time with the quarterbacks, watch
Speaker 2: watch a practice or two, and uh, I just I
Speaker 2: think their room is great. You know, I would say that,
Speaker 2: you know, good teams have good quarterback rooms and those
Speaker 2: relationships are competitive, but they're also supportive and that kind
Speaker 2: of infiltrates the rest of the team. And I think
Speaker 2: right now at U T, you got you got a
Speaker 2: couple guys, probably three guys that could that could play
Speaker 2: and and I think it's I think it's a great
Speaker 2: healthy situation. I would think that Quinn would you know,
Speaker 2: kind of start the season and and be the guy
Speaker 2: and you know, build off some of the things that
Speaker 2: he did last year. There's some good and some you know,
Speaker 2: some stuff needs to get cleaned up. And I'm sure
Speaker 2: he would say the same thing. But I just think
Speaker 2: a good, healthy quarterback room speaks a lot about your team.
Speaker 2: And I know Texas has that right now. And obviously,
Speaker 2: you know Arches, you know, the highest rated recruit of
Speaker 2: all time probably and a big deal that he's on
Speaker 2: campus and you know the name recognition and who he is,
Speaker 2: and I've got to spend good amounts of time with him.
Speaker 2: He's he's just he's just a class act and he's
Speaker 2: works hard, and you know it doesn't want any favors.
Speaker 2: And he's come into UT so much more prepared and
Speaker 2: ready and like good head on his shoulders. Then I
Speaker 2: wasn't even close to that when I mean, I had
Speaker 2: to rid shirt like I was. I needed to mature,
Speaker 2: I needed to grow, I needed to spend a lot
Speaker 2: of time in the weight room like there was. There
Speaker 2: was a lot of things that needed to happen for me,
Speaker 2: you know, which ultimately did in order to play at UT.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think if Texas needed ours to
Speaker 2: play right now, I imagine he could.
Speaker 1: And that's Cooper's son, correct, That's correct. For people that
Speaker 1: aren't sure when they hear Manning, they don't know if
Speaker 1: they easily assume it's Peyton or Eli, but it's it's Cooper's.
Speaker 2: Son, right exactly.
Speaker 1: I had Texas last year at Oklahoma State. That was
Speaker 1: not a good day for Quinn. But I'm a big
Speaker 1: Sark fan, and I'm really curious to see how they
Speaker 1: do this year and then obviously next year. The best
Speaker 1: quarterback I saw last year in person was Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: for obvious reasons at USC. The second best that it
Speaker 1: was pretty close, and I did North Carolina twice, was
Speaker 1: Drake May. And obviously Mac Brown, who you're very close with,
Speaker 1: who was your coach at Texas, is the coach at
Speaker 1: North Carolina. I don't know how much you've watched Drake
Speaker 1: May because there's a lot of talk about the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four draft. Is it you know who's going to
Speaker 1: be the first pick? Are they gonna go one two?
Speaker 1: Kind of like this year with with Bryce Young and
Speaker 1: c J.
Speaker 2: Stroud.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much Drake May you've watched or
Speaker 1: how much you've talked to Mack about him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know Coach Brown. Coach Brown loves Drake, He
Speaker 2: loves Sam Howe. I mean, he's had some good quarterbacks
Speaker 2: at North Carolina and coach Brown well speaking, I can
Speaker 2: only speak for myself, but you know, coach Brown expects
Speaker 2: a lot about your from his quarterback, and you know,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna play several years for him, Like you're
Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna get earfulls from from coach Brown. But
Speaker 2: you know, I was so fortunate to play for him
Speaker 2: for four years or really five because I red shirted
Speaker 2: and have the same coach. Right, And I think those quarterbacks, Drake,
Speaker 2: I think Sam Howe like those guys are tremendous talents,
Speaker 2: but they're they benefit from having the same coach and
Speaker 2: helping them along the way. And but from from what
Speaker 2: Coach Brown has told me, you know, it sounds like,
Speaker 2: you know, Drake is super talented, very competitive, played early,
Speaker 2: uh his brother, you know, and I think his family
Speaker 2: are all like good athletes. I think his brother played
Speaker 2: it played basketball in North Carolina. I think, yes, yes,
Speaker 2: he was on the national championship. Yes, that's right, right,
Speaker 2: So just coach Brown just says, like, you know, they're
Speaker 2: big tar Hills, like their whole family like bleed blue
Speaker 2: and or what do they call baby blue, Carolina blue.
Speaker 2: And so he's he thinks he's he thinks he's definitely
Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback. And you know I know that they're
Speaker 2: you know, they changed coordinators, but they're expecting a really
Speaker 2: really big year and sounds like I think I read
Speaker 2: where college game days going there week one. Yes, they
Speaker 2: play South Carolina Carolina week one, so that'll be that'll
Speaker 2: be a good first test for those guys.
Speaker 1: All right, last non Cardinals won and we'll start getting
Speaker 1: into this. But you and Kevin Durant to connect it
Speaker 1: all here this summer because you were at Texas the
Speaker 1: same time that Durant was. I've actually covered him since
Speaker 1: I did the McDonald's All America game like three years.
Speaker 1: One year was him with Greg Odin and everybody's talking
Speaker 1: about Odin and there's this skinny kid at the time
Speaker 1: KD was like six ' nine. Obviously he's sprouted. He's
Speaker 1: still listed. I think it's six ' nine, but he's not.
Speaker 1: And we were watching this guy, uh and again in
Speaker 1: high school like this dude is unbelievable. And then he
Speaker 1: did some of the Texas games that year, including a
Speaker 1: game when he had thirty seven points and twenty three
Speaker 1: rebounds at Texas Tech coached by Bob Knight. And then
Speaker 1: I've done his games, you know, in the NBA, and
Speaker 1: I've always had a I always like Kevin. My daughter
Speaker 1: who's now twenty five, but her favorite player is Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant for her sixteenth birthday. She wanted to meet him,
Speaker 1: so she came with me to do a game in
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City and got to meet him, and he could
Speaker 1: not have been nicer. So it's like people say, don't
Speaker 1: meet your heroes, don't meet your idols, but yeah, she
Speaker 1: loves him even more.
Speaker 2: But you've known Kevin for a long time, you get
Speaker 2: a chance to connect at all. Yeah. No, we were
Speaker 2: definitely acquaintances in college. He came in the year after me,
Speaker 2: but we lived in the same dorm, you know, where
Speaker 2: all the athletes live. Like, you know, I just remember
Speaker 2: like this super tall, skinny guy coming in and you know,
Speaker 2: no one really is saying much although he was like
Speaker 2: one of the highly touted recruits. Oh yeah, coming out
Speaker 2: of college. He came up, you know, from way up
Speaker 2: in the Northeast, and you don't really know much and
Speaker 2: you go to like the first game over at the
Speaker 2: Irwin Center and he drops like forty points and you're
Speaker 2: just like, oh my, this guy took the game over.
Speaker 2: I mean, just a phenomenal basketball player. And obviously like
Speaker 2: he's you know, one World Championships, he's won MVP, like
Speaker 2: he's He's amazing and we have not connected here in Phoenix.
Speaker 2: We've we've talked to each other back and forth a
Speaker 2: little bit. You know. Hopefully I can get out to
Speaker 2: a game next trame. I did go to one of
Speaker 2: the playoff games, saw him play. It wasn't good for us.
Speaker 1: Was it the Game six lost to Denver? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: that was that was the game we did. That game
Speaker 1: that was that was rough.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Denver was just gonna be hard to
Speaker 2: beat regardless. But I'm glad he's in the valley and
Speaker 2: he's a great dude, you know, and Longhorn stay together.
Speaker 1: It was I hope for the Sun's sake and Sun's
Speaker 1: fans sake that that that was an anomaly. I he
Speaker 1: barely played in the regular season because he got hurt.
Speaker 1: I had a coach tell me after that Game six
Speaker 1: loss that they were a little concerned because he They
Speaker 1: thought this, this coach thought he was struggling to get
Speaker 1: by people. And so my question was, have the injuries
Speaker 1: caught up to him? And this coach again his opinion,
Speaker 1: it's very possible. So I'm curious because he's thirty four,
Speaker 1: thirty five. He was eighteen when he came into the NBA.
Speaker 1: He was I think seventeen the year he was at Texas,
Speaker 1: so he's young. But I'm curious have all the injuries
Speaker 1: caught to him. I hope not, because obviously living here
Speaker 1: in the valley and want the sun to do well.
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, Were you going to say something?
Speaker 2: No, I mean maybe, I don't know. I know that
Speaker 2: if the ball is in his hand, he's going to
Speaker 2: find a way to get in the bucket. I mean,
Speaker 2: one of the lost his step or not. I think
Speaker 2: he's still one of the best at scoring.
Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest scorers in the history of
Speaker 1: the game.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: In terms of the Cardinals, you talked about you're in
Speaker 1: a good place mentally that the summer was very beneficial
Speaker 1: for you after friends, seeing friends, let go, teammates not back.
Speaker 1: What's your mentality going into this camp knowing, first of all,
Speaker 1: the Kyler's hurt. How do you going into camp as
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback? How do you handle that? I don't
Speaker 1: how many times that's happened in your career where you've
Speaker 1: gone into camp as the starter. Obviously, you don't know
Speaker 1: whether Kyler is going to be back, when he's going
Speaker 1: to be back. But what's that like for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you know a few years
Speaker 2: early on that was the case, right, and then I
Speaker 2: think you're always chasing that again, right. It's it's it's
Speaker 2: a cool feeling, like I don't take it lightly that
Speaker 2: there's only thirty two guys to get to do this right.
Speaker 2: And you know, at the same time, like whenever Kyler's healthy,
Speaker 2: like Kyler, Kyler's going to step back on the field
Speaker 2: and take over, right, and he's in the meetings, he's
Speaker 2: working hard, he's he's doing his rehab like nobody knows
Speaker 2: when that day is. And so for me, it's very
Speaker 2: similar to the role I've been in the last two years.
Speaker 2: It's like always being ready, always studying, always learning, always preparing,
Speaker 2: always asking questions, you know, you know, making sure that
Speaker 2: you know I'm in the best shape physically and mentally
Speaker 2: to step out on the field and play however long
Speaker 2: you need to play and do whatever I need to do,
Speaker 2: because I want my teammates on the field to know
Speaker 2: that when I step in, like we're okay, Like he
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. He's gonna get us in the
Speaker 2: right plays, the right calls, the right checks, and we're
Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna be just fine. And you know, that's
Speaker 2: exactly how I'm approaching it. And I think you you
Speaker 2: hit it right. Like a ton of my closest friends
Speaker 2: are gone right. Some of all the old linemen guys,
Speaker 2: the Rodney Hudson's, the Justin Pughes, like those guys that
Speaker 2: you're close with, they're closer in as to you that
Speaker 2: you just you know, the toll that this game is
Speaker 2: taken on their body. But you know everybody loves it.
Speaker 2: They're they're just gone right. And you know, Cliff and
Speaker 2: Cam and just I could go down the list like that.
Speaker 2: That's a hard process to go through emotionally and mentally.
Speaker 2: And now I feel like through this break, I'm just
Speaker 2: I'm in a way better place and I'm ready to
Speaker 2: go back and play football right. I'm ready to see
Speaker 2: what this team can do. And we're going to go
Speaker 2: build this team in training camp. And you know, I'm
Speaker 2: certainly all in, and I'm fired up for the new
Speaker 2: staff and for Coach Gannon and Coach Petsing, these guys
Speaker 2: who are implementing their new systems and you spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time with them, and I believe in them
Speaker 2: and Manty have had good, great conversations with MANI like,
Speaker 2: they are a great staff and they have great energy,
Speaker 2: and this is a totally different team than the team
Speaker 2: that we had last year. But I think we're all
Speaker 2: excited and we're all ready to go build this thing
Speaker 2: and see what we can do. And you know how
Speaker 2: very many games I get to play, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: I understand, you know the opportunity that that is, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to go give it my all.
Speaker 1: The first podcast for this was with Kurt Warner, and
Speaker 1: Kurt mentioned on this podcast, and I think he had
Speaker 1: probably said it elsewhere, but I I wasn't one hundred
Speaker 1: percent sure that that's not the first time I heard this.
Speaker 1: He said going into two thousand and nine, he knew
Speaker 1: he was done because that was his last game, was
Speaker 1: the Bounty Gate game in the playoffs against the Saints.
Speaker 1: He gets blindsided and ended up retiring, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people thought it was because of that, but he
Speaker 1: had already made up his mind. The reason I bring
Speaker 1: that up is after the hit in Denver, which was
Speaker 1: really scary. I'm sure scarier for you, but just for
Speaker 1: us seeing it like you rarely see a guy get.
Speaker 2: Up and then collapse.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what all you remember, But did
Speaker 1: you start to think, given you've had other concussions right
Speaker 1: prior to that, and you're in your mid thirties, you've
Speaker 1: been doing this a long time. How long did you think, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe it's time or were you like,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to I want.
Speaker 2: To finish strong. I don't want to go out that way. Right. Well,
Speaker 2: I think ultimately I was protected by a lot of
Speaker 2: people in the building by not playing late in the season, right,
Speaker 2: And then you go through the process of you know what,
Speaker 2: what you kind of do every year is just evaluating
Speaker 2: how your body feels. Like I did a lot of
Speaker 2: cool treatments. I say cool, it's just newer technology and
Speaker 2: things that they can help you with as far as
Speaker 2: you know, after concussion. And you know, I just was
Speaker 2: reacting to how my body felt, how my body responded
Speaker 2: to some of these treatments. And again, you know, that's
Speaker 2: all part of this process of figuring out, Okay, what
Speaker 2: does this next year look like? Right? All, a lot
Speaker 2: of my boys are gone, like a lot of the
Speaker 2: people in the building are new, Like you're coming off
Speaker 2: of concussion, like you know, you had little elbow stuff like,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, like I prayed a lot
Speaker 2: about it, right, you know, I think I lean on
Speaker 2: my faith more than anything else in my life and
Speaker 2: definitely want to uh follow that and understand like, okay,
Speaker 2: like there's there's always a time and a place for everything.
Speaker 2: What is this season? And I feel like everything in
Speaker 2: my life pointed back towards getting myself healthy and then
Speaker 2: seeing what happens and this all is part of the plan.
Speaker 2: And I feel stronger, I feel better, my arm feels good,
Speaker 2: my mind is is ready. You know. I know there's
Speaker 2: gonna be challenges. There's challenges in every year, right, but
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in a place where I'm ready to take
Speaker 2: on those and and plays as well as I can
Speaker 2: and and go into this training camp with the mindset of,
Speaker 2: you know, being the best version of myself and leading
Speaker 2: this football team to the best of my ability for
Speaker 2: however long they asked me to do that. And I
Speaker 2: can't wait. I'm excited and I'm thrilled. And it's all new, right,
Speaker 2: this new system, new coaches, new players like that. It's
Speaker 2: it's it's in my mind. It's just I'm hitting a
Speaker 2: refresh button and let's go see what happens here.
Speaker 1: What are your biggest takeaways about the offense so far.
Speaker 2: I've I've enjoyed learning this system, right. I've learned a
Speaker 2: bunch of systems in my career. Right. I think my
Speaker 2: first five years in the NFL had new coordinators, which
Speaker 2: is always tough. But at the same time, you know,
Speaker 2: you you turn things into a positive. And you know,
Speaker 2: I've I've seen a lot of different systems and different
Speaker 2: philosophies and different ways to do different things. And I
Speaker 2: feel like the way that that Drew Is has presented
Speaker 2: his offense to us is is great. Like he has
Speaker 2: a plan, he has a he has a purpose, he
Speaker 2: has a reason every time I ask a question. He's
Speaker 2: a very good teacher. Uh, he's smart's first time calling plays,
Speaker 2: but he knows what he wanted to look like. And
Speaker 2: you know, he's assembled his offensive staff and they're all
Speaker 2: on the same page. And you know, there's never a
Speaker 2: there is never a doubt of what we're doing or
Speaker 2: what we're trying to plish, you know, when we have
Speaker 2: the ball in our hands. And so, uh, it's been
Speaker 2: it's been great. And I think he's going to be
Speaker 2: very multiple. You know, he's he's not going to be
Speaker 2: just you know, you're not gonna We're gonna play in
Speaker 2: a lot of different personnel groups. We're gonna utilize all
Speaker 2: the guys that we have, you know, I think you know,
Speaker 2: in this league in fourteen years, like it's it's players,
Speaker 2: not plays, and a lot of teams do the same
Speaker 2: same stuff. But for us, I'm just I'm excited going
Speaker 2: to training camp knowing that, like we all trust in
Speaker 2: in what Drew has has brought us, we learned and
Speaker 2: chipped away it a lot of different things in the
Speaker 2: in the offseason, I think a lot of it will
Speaker 2: will take shape and we'll figure out, you know what
Speaker 2: we're really what's really going to be our bread and
Speaker 2: butter as we get into the season.
Speaker 1: I heard you say in a recent podcast that the
Speaker 1: footwork is a lot different, and you know, for the fans,
Speaker 1: for us, that doesn't it's hard for us to understand, Okay,
Speaker 1: what does that mean? What does that look like?
Speaker 2: So? Why is that so?
Speaker 1: Why is that such an adjustment for a quarterback when
Speaker 1: the footwork in the system is different.
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking about this during this break, So
Speaker 2: I started playing football in seventh grade. So seventh and
Speaker 2: eighth grade plus four years of high school, five years
Speaker 2: in NFL or five years in college, and fourteen in
Speaker 2: the NFL. That's twenty five years. I think I went
Speaker 2: to ut with my math's good. I went to Syracuse.
Speaker 2: I can't help you, sorry, So I mean just just
Speaker 2: for you and for the fans. Like you know, as
Speaker 2: a quarterback, like everything is rhythm, everything is timing, everything
Speaker 2: is like when you get out of that, like bad
Speaker 2: things happen. But I've played with my right foot forward
Speaker 2: in the shotgun or underneath the center for twenty five
Speaker 2: years since seventh grade. And we were running shotgun in
Speaker 2: seventh grade. I ran, you know, the speed option, you know,
Speaker 2: get get off the midline right like. But then as
Speaker 2: you get older, like you just you develop, like your
Speaker 2: comfort and and your stance and like it becomes second nature.
Speaker 2: You don't think about it. Well, this offseason, Drew really
Speaker 2: wanted me to go with my left foot forward in
Speaker 2: the shotgun. And when I tell you, that's not easy,
Speaker 2: it's not easy, but I'm feeling a lot more comfortable
Speaker 2: with it. You know, it's something that Drew really believes in,
Speaker 2: and you know, I want to do it. How he
Speaker 2: wants to wants to do it, and and so I've
Speaker 2: just I've really really worked countless hours making sure that
Speaker 2: like that becomes second nature. And I and you know,
Speaker 2: by the time I get into training camp, you know,
Speaker 2: next few days, I'm going to do my best not
Speaker 2: to even think about it.
Speaker 1: What's it like to have a coach that's your age up?
Speaker 1: Petting is the offensive coordinator, You're the same age. And
Speaker 1: I know you're close with Sean McVay and in Washington,
Speaker 1: I think Sean probably at the time was maybe five
Speaker 1: years older than you.
Speaker 2: Well, he still would be, right, No, Sean, Sean's five
Speaker 2: months older than me. That's it. Yeah, Sewn and I
Speaker 2: are you know, we're basically saying.
Speaker 1: We're saying, why does it feel like Shawn's been around
Speaker 1: forever yet he's still thirty six years old? I didn't
Speaker 1: really for some reason, I thought he was older than
Speaker 1: you by a few.
Speaker 2: He's thirty seven now, but he's We're we're like six
Speaker 2: five or six months apart. How about are you older
Speaker 2: than Drew? Have you figured that out? Older than Drew?
Speaker 2: I'm about a year older than Drew. Okay?
Speaker 1: Is that weird to be older than your coach.
Speaker 2: I was older than Cam last year, Cam Turner. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell and I are like really tight. Kevin's I
Speaker 2: think two or three two and a half three years
Speaker 2: older than me. So you're used to this. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: saying this is not a big deal. I actually think
Speaker 2: it's it's not as big a deal as what people
Speaker 2: may think. Like, Drew's been around a lot of football. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's He's had he's learned from the best that's ever
Speaker 2: done what he's doing right, And I don't think there's
Speaker 2: any sort of like problem with him coaching me hard
Speaker 2: or or getting on me or no, this is what
Speaker 2: I want. Like that relationship has been has been great. Right,
Speaker 2: There's there's an ultimate respect factor from me and from
Speaker 2: everybody just because like again I mentioned it early in
Speaker 2: the podcast, like there's nothing easy about this league, right,
Speaker 2: and you know guys who get to the top like this,
Speaker 2: Like there's there's a there's a respect factor there that
Speaker 2: just is you know, it's it's it's there, I mean.
Speaker 2: And and our our relationship has been has been solid.
Speaker 1: Because you have a new coaching staff, you have a
Speaker 1: first time head coach, first time offensive coordinator, are you
Speaker 1: more involved? Are you more involved do you think in
Speaker 1: game planning, in talking to your teammates. I mean you're
Speaker 1: always very vocal, very encouraging and positive. But do you
Speaker 1: think there will be more of that since you're one
Speaker 1: of the few holdover leaders of not just the team
Speaker 1: but the organization.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we'll see, right, I think,
Speaker 2: you know, as you get going in training camp and
Speaker 2: as you start putting those first game plans together, I
Speaker 2: think that it will all be done together. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, like you know, my goal going into
Speaker 2: this campus to is to know and learn the offense
Speaker 2: as best as I can before we go out there
Speaker 2: for week one. Right, that's still a work in progress,
Speaker 2: and so I don't know that like my ideas and
Speaker 2: what I want. You know that I was involved, you know,
Speaker 2: to an extent, especially the last two years with Cliff
Speaker 2: and with Cam and those but you knew the system. Well.
Speaker 2: I think we're getting to a point where we can
Speaker 2: we can get there. But any plan that gets put together,
Speaker 2: whether it's Kyler or me or whatever, or on any
Speaker 2: team I've been on, you know, there's always that you know,
Speaker 2: coach to quarterback like hey, Okay, here's our third down menu.
Speaker 2: You know, what do you feel most comfortable with? Like,
Speaker 2: there's always that communication like that, and that's crucial right
Speaker 2: to the play caller and the quarterback to be on
Speaker 2: the same page of what we like and don't like
Speaker 2: and what we're seeing and being able to adjust in games.
Speaker 2: Like the goal is as we as we build this
Speaker 2: thing over the next month, is to be able to
Speaker 2: get on that same page, and that's when things click.
Speaker 1: I watch Flight Plan. I don't know if you got
Speaker 1: to see it at all, and you know Kyler, you
Speaker 1: know as well as anybody, but watching him there, I
Speaker 1: was really encouraged by his maturity. Seems like he's grown
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. I don't know when your
Speaker 1: conversations with him or watching him rehab what you've been
Speaker 1: able to glean because obviously it's a big year for
Speaker 1: him coming off an injury. It's as much adversity is
Speaker 1: he's probably facing his athletic life coming off this injury
Speaker 1: and having to learn a new system, the footworking different,
Speaker 1: and it's got to be a challenge I would assume
Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, watch it and know
Speaker 1: that you have to do it and then actually be
Speaker 1: out there doing it and then do it in a game.
Speaker 1: What are some of the things you've been able to
Speaker 1: glean from kind of watching Kyler go through this and
Speaker 1: in your conversations with him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyler is, I mean, he's in. He's the ultimate competitor,
Speaker 2: So I mean, I think he's attacking his rehab. He
Speaker 2: wants to be out on the field. He's good in meetings.
Speaker 2: You know, there are some things that are going to
Speaker 2: be different, Like we are we are going to huddle,
Speaker 2: we are going to call plays in the huddle. We're
Speaker 2: going to use like you know, a lot of different
Speaker 2: mechanics than what we did last year, right, And so
Speaker 2: there's a I mean, just from the very beginning, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of things to learn. But Kyler has jumped
Speaker 2: right in. He's he's doing the things that he can
Speaker 2: do without actually being out there and call the plays
Speaker 2: and run the place. Right. But I bet he's out
Speaker 2: there sooner than later would be my guess, just because
Speaker 2: he's a competitor and wants to be and this is new,
Speaker 2: and so I'm excited for him. I think anytime you
Speaker 2: go into something that's new, right there, it takes some
Speaker 2: time to learn and to feel comfortable with. And you know,
Speaker 2: we talked about footwork and we talked about just the
Speaker 2: just the overall operation, like those are things that you
Speaker 2: know he's gonna have to learn on the fly, you know,
Speaker 2: because the moment that he's ready to play, he's he's
Speaker 2: gonna go play. And so a lot of anything that
Speaker 2: I do or what what Drew coaches or sometimes like
Speaker 2: you know, some of the conversations we had this spring
Speaker 2: were like, hey, like we haven't done this before, I
Speaker 2: haven't done this in a long time. This was this
Speaker 2: was a little I need more reps at this. So
Speaker 2: as you're going through your rehab, you know, this offseason,
Speaker 2: like remember that this play is a little bit tricky.
Speaker 2: Like maybe it was the footwork, maybe it was your eyes,
Speaker 2: maybe it was like the throw was you know, got
Speaker 2: to be more up and down than on a line,
Speaker 2: Like different things that I could tell him after getting
Speaker 2: the rep that you know, remember this right. And so
Speaker 2: our communication has been has been really good. And I
Speaker 2: just I recognize and know that like injuries are hard.
Speaker 2: They're hard emotionally, they're hard physically, they're hard mentally, and
Speaker 2: you know, you're all your energy most days are going
Speaker 2: into fixing that. Right, we've all had significant injuries. I
Speaker 2: think for him, like we'll know when that that light
Speaker 2: bulb comes on, like Okay, I'm getting over this and
Speaker 2: I'm ready to like really soak up this information that
Speaker 2: the moment I can get out there, I'm going and
Speaker 2: I'm excited for for him when that clicks.
Speaker 1: Last one and most important one, where are we with
Speaker 1: the family dog situation? Because my wife and I we
Speaker 1: are one year away from being empty nesters. We've talked
Speaker 1: about it because we have not had a dog, and
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna go down that road because
Speaker 1: I know this is something that the kids have pushed
Speaker 1: you on. Correct, but you said it's a retirement thing.
Speaker 1: You worry about it much much.
Speaker 2: Ter well, I mean, listen, my kids can't even clean
Speaker 2: their rooms. I think they can't already make their bed.
Speaker 2: It's like without us just hounding them to do it,
Speaker 2: like pick up the toys, clean your room, like make
Speaker 2: your bed, like there's some response. So I mean during
Speaker 2: football season, there's no chance. I love dogs. I love dogs.
Speaker 2: I grew up with labs, Like, there's no chance we're
Speaker 2: gonna have a dog right now, right, I mean and
Speaker 2: I've told my kids and some of them cried, and
Speaker 2: I'm just like, someday, like, go play with the neighbor's dog.
Speaker 2: That's great. Like enjoy that Justin Pugh has has two
Speaker 2: Golden Retrievers. He brings them to the house all the time.
Speaker 2: The kids love and they run, they play, and then
Speaker 2: they cry because I won't get them a dog. I'm like, God, someday,
Speaker 2: I would love to get a dog, But until you
Speaker 2: can prove to me that you can make your bed
Speaker 2: and clean your room and not have you know, me
Speaker 2: and your mommy picking up everything behind you, Like what
Speaker 2: makes me think that you can clean up after a
Speaker 2: dog or make sure that the dog lives by giving
Speaker 2: it water and giving it food. Like there's so and so.
Speaker 2: I just ended up saying, Guys, when I retire, we
Speaker 2: can talk about having a dog. And so half my
Speaker 2: kids want me to retire. Half my kids want me
Speaker 2: to play. Well, we hope you keep playing. Colt.
Speaker 1: It's always fun talking to you. Thanks for spending some
Speaker 1: time with me. Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You betcha man.
Speaker 1: Thanks always a pleasure to talk with. Colt, one of
Speaker 1: the great guys in sports, been around a long time.
Speaker 1: You're fourteen, now in the NFL, been with a lot
Speaker 1: of different organizations. Third year with the Cardinals, thirty six
Speaker 1: career starts. Will it be thirty seven come Week one
Speaker 1: against Washington, which would be interesting from a lot of perspectives,
Speaker 1: particularly the Colts been a good part of his career
Speaker 1: in Washington from twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen. It was
Speaker 1: good to get an update on Coletealth, also get his
Speaker 1: thoughts on Kyler and the growth maturity that we've seen
Speaker 1: from Kyler over the off season, and also good to
Speaker 1: kind of get the perspective from a quarterback on what
Speaker 1: it's like to make the transition to broadcasting, something he's
Speaker 1: toying with and obviously got some experience this summer calling
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