WEBVTT - The Dave Pasch Podcast - Colt McCoy

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everybody, and welcome back to the Dave Pash Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host ESPN and Arizona Cardinals play by play

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<v Speaker 1>announcer Dave Pash. We have been on a break, but

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<v Speaker 1>we are back in a big way our Cards Camp

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<v Speaker 1>Kickoff edition with Colt McCoy, the presumed starting quarterback for

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona Cardinals, depending obviously on the health of Kyler Murray.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk with Colt about what it's like going

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<v Speaker 1>into training camp as the starter.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a cool feeling, like I don't take it lightly

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<v Speaker 2>that there's only thirty two guys to get to do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to go back and play football right I'm

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<v Speaker 2>ready to see what this team can do.

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<v Speaker 1>Colt will also talk about Drew Petsing, the new offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 1>and play calling, some of the differences in this offense

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<v Speaker 1>compared to what he's used to, as well as some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that Colt did in the offseason, including

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting some USFL.

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<v Speaker 1>time for our conversation with Cardinals quarterback Colt McCoy. So, Colt,

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<v Speaker 1>forgive me if I'm a little rusty, because it's been

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<v Speaker 1>a while, not only since I've done a podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>since I've done a game. In fact, in the last

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<v Speaker 1>two months, you have called more games.

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<v Speaker 2>Than I have.

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<v Speaker 1>My last TV game was Phoenix Denver Game six, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I did Eastern Conference Finals for ESPN Radio. But

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<v Speaker 1>still that ended before your two games for NBC. First,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me about that experience. And I actually did NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Europe like twenty years ago, and they would have current

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<v Speaker 1>players as analysts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of guys after that were like, I'm never

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<v Speaker 1>doing this again, or some were like I can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to do this again.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you? Yeah? That is crazy. Yeah, I called

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<v Speaker 2>a couple USFL games in June, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the travel, I had to travel to Canton,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio and Memphis, both cool, little cool towns, but just

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<v Speaker 2>you were in the middle of OTAs. So I would

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<v Speaker 2>leave on you know, probably Friday, after a Monday through

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday week. My wife loved that, you know, and just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to navigate how to get there. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>my flights got canceled. You know. I ended up getting

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<v Speaker 2>to Canton, Ohio like two in the morning, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we were there was a Saturday game at with a

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<v Speaker 2>noon kickoff, and so I missed like the production meetings

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, all the stuff that goes on before

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<v Speaker 2>the before that actual game. But once I got in

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<v Speaker 2>the studio, I loved calling the games. Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know how I was going to feel during it or afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just I really enjoyed, you know, that vantage

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<v Speaker 2>point and talking to Paul Burmeister actually had him both times.

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<v Speaker 2>He was fantastic. He helped me a ton along the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Our verbal communication skills were pretty good. We we had

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<v Speaker 2>a great time together and calling those games was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I just enjoyed seeing both sides of the of the field,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking defense. You know, when you play a football game,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you go out there and try to execute

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<v Speaker 2>everything as well as you can. Then you come off

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<v Speaker 2>to the side and you know, you look at the iPad,

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<v Speaker 2>you get a little break, you kind of talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what's coming up next, and then you go back out

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<v Speaker 2>there and do it and you know you might get seven,

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<v Speaker 2>eight nine drives a game. You know, during a broadcast,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no break, like I had a two minute

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom break at halftime, because in the TV timeouts, the

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<v Speaker 2>producers in your ear at halftime, you're you're giving a recap,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about what's coming next, all the pregame stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you know, you're prepping and your you got your

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<v Speaker 2>board out in front of you and you're, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>making sure you're good with all the names and you

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<v Speaker 2>know what the talking points. I mean, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>ton of fun. Like I could see myself, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had the opportunity, you know, down the road

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<v Speaker 2>to call some games, you know, I think I I

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<v Speaker 2>would really enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were saying that before the first game. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we were texting about this. The power went out

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<v Speaker 1>in the booth right before you guys went on the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything went down.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, there was there was a forty five minute delay

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<v Speaker 2>of the kickoff because the the entire system was down.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, obviously the producers and those guys are

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<v Speaker 2>in studio back wherever that is. But all the equipment

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<v Speaker 2>at the game went out. The generator went out, the

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<v Speaker 2>backup went out. I don't know what was. All I

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<v Speaker 2>know is that the kickoff was to lay. Guys are

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<v Speaker 2>ready to warm up and they go back inside. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was my first game and so there

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<v Speaker 2>was a I didn't really know any different. It ended

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<v Speaker 2>up being me and Paul just calling the game like

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<v Speaker 2>we saw it. You know, you can kind of throw

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<v Speaker 2>out all your preparation. You know. The cool thing about

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<v Speaker 2>the USFL is you get the quarterback and head coach

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<v Speaker 2>or play caller communication, so you can hear the play calls,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can hear the quarterback step in the huddle

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<v Speaker 2>and call the play and like, you know, as as

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who's played quarterback for a while, you can,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, by the end of the first quarter, second quarter,

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<v Speaker 2>you can pick up like what some of these plays

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<v Speaker 2>are and be able to talk about them. And I

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<v Speaker 2>had done some film study on both of these teams

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<v Speaker 2>that had a pretty good idea of what their offenses

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<v Speaker 2>were like, and that was out the window right the

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<v Speaker 2>telestrator who that I had tried to practice on, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you drop a few things and oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>hear a play. I know what this play is. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me let me draw it up out real quick. That

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<v Speaker 2>was out. So me and paulog just called the game

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<v Speaker 2>like we saw it, and I thought it went great.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I didn't have the equipment, but I was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of nervous about using that kind of stuff anyways, And afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the producers and everyone were just like, it's

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<v Speaker 2>never like this, like, don't worry about like that was

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<v Speaker 2>really hard. I was like, hey, I thought I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I thought it was great, Like I enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you can get through that and you can

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<v Speaker 1>do a USFL game where you don't know who a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the players are going into it and you

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<v Speaker 1>can do anything, it gets I have always felt it

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<v Speaker 1>gets much easier the higher level you do because you

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<v Speaker 1>know who the players are as opposed to you may

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<v Speaker 1>have known some of the names, but it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>their household names, and there's probably not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>film on these guys for you to study.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're mostly just watching games. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>faces that you recognize though, especially from coaches. You see

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<v Speaker 2>coaches that you've played against or maybe played with that

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<v Speaker 2>are that are still coaching. And then there's there's four

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<v Speaker 2>or five guys on each team that I had remembered,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe playing with in a preseason or playing

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<v Speaker 2>against that you remember their names. Like, it's still good football.

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<v Speaker 1>You're used to having somebody in your ear as a quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>although fifteen seconds on the play clock that stops. How

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<v Speaker 1>often did the producer talk to you right before you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to speak and how did you handle having

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<v Speaker 1>that voice in your ear?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's definitely unique, right because most of the time

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<v Speaker 2>that he's talking to you, you're already talking. You're already

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<v Speaker 2>you're in your six to seven seconds given the recap

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<v Speaker 2>of what just happened on that play, and he's either

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<v Speaker 2>talking to you about I want you to use the telestrator,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me a little bit more expand on this highlight

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<v Speaker 2>number forty eight whatever, like as you're talking. So that

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<v Speaker 2>part is hard because you know, it took me a

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<v Speaker 2>first half probably to get used to that. But then

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<v Speaker 2>it's almost like, Okay, I expect this, like let me

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<v Speaker 2>just let let me follow whatever the producer's lead is

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<v Speaker 2>and where he wants me to go, because he's certainly

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<v Speaker 2>trying to take care of me. He's certainly trying to

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<v Speaker 2>help me. He's not trying to throw me off. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, different than you know, if I have the

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<v Speaker 2>the play caller calling a play to me right now,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, into my headset like I can give one

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<v Speaker 2>wave and just some I got it. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>got I got to play like we're good. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>never stepping in the huddle and calling the play while

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<v Speaker 2>he's still talking in my ear like I that would

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<v Speaker 2>be that would be crazy. So the communication, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think the more you do it, the more you

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<v Speaker 2>get used to it. It was certainly there was some

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<v Speaker 2>growing pains at first, but it was still a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of fun. I mean when I got in the booth

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<v Speaker 2>and I called the games and you know, you get

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<v Speaker 2>in a flow with the play by play guy with Paul,

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<v Speaker 2>it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So between the broadcasting and obviously the offseason work with

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<v Speaker 1>the team and now did you get a chance to relax?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel refreshed.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a particular routine that you do in

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<v Speaker 1>the off season leading up to training camp.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Now I feel like I'm in a really good place.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I think there was a little carry over

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<v Speaker 2>into this offseason from the end of the year last year,

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<v Speaker 2>right played through a bunch of injuries, had the concussion

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<v Speaker 2>against Denver, and you know, missed the last couple of games,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, then all your coaches get fired, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the front office, you know, a lot of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>get let go. And I think there's just the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>is hard no matter how long you've played. I've played

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<v Speaker 2>for fourteen years, and I've seen a lot of different things,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, last year was just really tough, Right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we had tons of high expectations across the board going

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<v Speaker 2>into the season. Last year, we worked really hard, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you just you guys start getting hurt, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, in key positions, and you lose a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of games, and it just it just kept getting worse

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<v Speaker 2>and worse and worse and worse all year, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it ultimately ended with you know, some of my best

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<v Speaker 2>friends and and people that I love and care about

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<v Speaker 2>and and you know, are close with get fired, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and so like you know, then you know, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a little off season surgery and like it just those

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<v Speaker 2>things just add up emotionally, and I think when the

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<v Speaker 2>off season started, I just I wasn't in a great

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<v Speaker 2>place because I was, you know, physically, I was getting

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<v Speaker 2>better and better each day and I felt better, but

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<v Speaker 2>emotionally I just was still I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>word would be, probably just like sad, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>it just a little bit of a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a funk, a little bit of a fog, like you

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<v Speaker 2>work so hard to you know, make something happen. And

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<v Speaker 2>I know that there's a lot of guys in this

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<v Speaker 2>building who felt the same way. And you know you're

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<v Speaker 2>just you're sad when it doesn't work out because you

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<v Speaker 2>you give, we give our life to this, right. And

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<v Speaker 2>so after the off season program like it was still good,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I still you know, we're learning a new system

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<v Speaker 2>where we've got new guys, new faces. They're all great,

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<v Speaker 2>Like love them all, and I love the energy that

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<v Speaker 2>this new staff brings, that Moni brings like it by

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<v Speaker 2>no means it doesn't have anything to do with that.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just it's all new and there's a learning

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<v Speaker 2>process that has to take place. And I think this

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<v Speaker 2>break was really good for me. Right, I was able

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<v Speaker 2>to get away and I was able to just spend

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<v Speaker 2>some time with my family. It's worked really hard, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just allowed me to, uh just mentally and emotionally

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<v Speaker 2>get in the right state of Hey, I know, I

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<v Speaker 2>know what what it takes to you know, get ready

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<v Speaker 2>for another season in the NFL. This is a hard game,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a this is tough, Like there's nothing easy

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<v Speaker 2>about it. There's long days, there's there's hard days, there's

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<v Speaker 2>good days, there's it's physical, it's emotionally draining sometimes like

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<v Speaker 2>being able to like be above all that and handle

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<v Speaker 2>all that in the workload, and you know, understanding that

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate goal is to go out there and win

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<v Speaker 2>without winning like it's it's a it's not successful like

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<v Speaker 2>that takes a lot. And I feel like this break

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<v Speaker 2>really really helps me get into that mode. And and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I feel like I'm in a really really

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<v Speaker 2>good place as we as we get started here. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also really excited good.

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<v Speaker 1>We always get out of the country when I'm done,

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<v Speaker 1>because I go like nine nine and a half months

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<v Speaker 1>hard travel, uh, and so traveling for me in the

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<v Speaker 1>US is work, so we try to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the country for a few weeks, and we do that

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much every summer. But I always try to do

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<v Speaker 1>one new thing, like learn something new or do something

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<v Speaker 1>different each summer. I didn't this summer. One thing I

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<v Speaker 1>thought about trying, and I've never liked it is country music.

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<v Speaker 1>Sell me on why I should start listening to country

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<v Speaker 1>music as my new thing, because the summer is not

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<v Speaker 1>officially overcult there's still.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, there's still time. Well, I'm a big country music guy. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry to tell you, I know you are, but I

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<v Speaker 2>will say that you know I grew up that way, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up listening to nineties country, and if any

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<v Speaker 2>song of Brooks and Dunn or George Strait or Garth

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks or Kenny Chesney, like, if any of that comes on,

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<v Speaker 2>I know all the words, and that's just what That's

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<v Speaker 2>just what we listened to when I was growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>And in fact, I think I probably like nineties country

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<v Speaker 2>a little better than the country that's out there right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But all the all the folks are good, Like those

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<v Speaker 1>guys you mentioned I have heard of. I just can't

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<v Speaker 1>tell you any other songs.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you hear George straight on the radio, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta you gotta tip your cap. This is how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>You do that while you're in the car. You're driving me,

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<v Speaker 1>just tip the cap if you hear if he comes

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<v Speaker 1>on his.

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<v Speaker 2>I make sure my kids see that too, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>know what you're listening to here? Country Royalty. Yeah, for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>he's king a country.

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<v Speaker 1>So should I start there or should I start with

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<v Speaker 1>the newer country singers?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Probably the newer country singers. I mean these guys

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<v Speaker 2>are very talented. I mean country music nowadays has a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit faster beat, a little bit better rhythm. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can you know it's it's not pop, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's still still country. And then just dip

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<v Speaker 2>your toe into like some of the old school stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>like some of the nineties country. Maybe go a little

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<v Speaker 2>further back and give you a little Willie Nelson and

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<v Speaker 2>Waylon Jennings and you know, go down that path. Just

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<v Speaker 2>see what you allright, I don't think I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>you be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean, look, there's I just have never been

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<v Speaker 1>able to get into it. But I haven't had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of friends that listen to it either. My wife

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't listen to it. So I think it's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of part of like where you grow up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what you listen to as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>what your parents listen to, what your friends listen to,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it kind of just go from there. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to a lot. That's something new.

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<v Speaker 1>You like it, Well, I said, I, that's usually each

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<v Speaker 1>summer there's a goal of something different. I just summer's

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<v Speaker 1>not officially over, so maybe we'll try it. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing you used to do in the off

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<v Speaker 1>season back when you were younger, was at tend manning camp.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of my best friends in the world, who

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<v Speaker 1>was the same age as you, who I worked with

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<v Speaker 1>for four years and has moved up the ladder at

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<v Speaker 1>ESPN as the number two college football analyst, is Greg McElroy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I believe you, Greg, Sam Bradford, and Andrew Luck

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<v Speaker 1>all roomed together one summer. And I also believe that

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<v Speaker 1>two of the four were very delinquent and the other

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<v Speaker 1>two and you were one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of these two.

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<v Speaker 1>We're at home sleeping as you should, getting your rest,

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<v Speaker 1>being serious. One of the delinquents might have been Greg

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<v Speaker 1>and the other might have been Andrew, is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>That is great? That is great that you dug all

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<v Speaker 2>that up. Bradford was my roommate. Sam and I are

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<v Speaker 2>the same class. I never actually attended the Manning Manning

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<v Speaker 2>Academy camp like as a camper, but I did go

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<v Speaker 2>as a counselor. They usually grab like, you know, four

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<v Speaker 2>or five six guys maybe that are in their junior

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<v Speaker 2>senior year to come out and work the camp. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a really really cool tradition. I know

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<v Speaker 2>they're still doing it now. I mean there's you're going

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<v Speaker 2>out there to think it's Thibodeaux, Louisiana and it is hot,

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<v Speaker 2>like we can complain all we want about Oh it's

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifteen degrees out here, Like no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>down there. It is humid and hot, and the kids

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<v Speaker 2>do not care. It's a ton of fun, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Mannings do it the right way. I remember landing in

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<v Speaker 2>New Orleans and Arch would would pick pick us up

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<v Speaker 2>and when drive us down, explain to the camp, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's gonna be fun. You know, Cole, you and Sam

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<v Speaker 2>are going to room together. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>like you do the camp and then there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of extracurricular activities throughout the rest of the week which

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<v Speaker 2>had nothing to do with football. From what I understand,

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<v Speaker 2>the only the only rule is you gotta you gotta

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<v Speaker 2>be back ready for camp the next morning, like what

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<v Speaker 2>whatever happened. So there's a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun stories, a lot of getting to

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<v Speaker 2>know guys, and it's a it's a great time fair.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to I know the story, and I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell it anyway, so it's probably better that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. Speaking of college football, Uh, let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>Texas because obviously you're one of the Texas legends. You

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Archie I think you were talking about right before.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I meant to say Archie. Yeah yeah, Archie.

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<v Speaker 1>But arch arch Manning is now at Texas. Quinn Yours

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<v Speaker 1>is the starter. What are you hearing about arch What

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<v Speaker 1>are you hearing about that room and that team because

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<v Speaker 1>they have a huge game week two against Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I haven't stayed as plugged in as

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<v Speaker 2>as probably people think that I have. I went back

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<v Speaker 2>to the spring game this year, took my kids first

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<v Speaker 2>time they had been in the stadium at ut which

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty awesome. Like we we had a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>They couldn't believe it. And the stadium wasn't even you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fully sold out. It was it was the spring game,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was still a ton of fun. But I've

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<v Speaker 2>I got to spend some time with the quarterbacks, watch

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<v Speaker 2>watch a practice or two, and uh, I just I

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<v Speaker 2>think their room is great. You know, I would say that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, good teams have good quarterback rooms and those

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<v Speaker 2>relationships are competitive, but they're also supportive and that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of infiltrates the rest of the team. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>right now at U T, you got you got a

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<v Speaker 2>couple guys, probably three guys that could that could play

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<v Speaker 2>and and I think it's I think it's a great

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<v Speaker 2>healthy situation. I would think that Quinn would you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of start the season and and be the guy

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, build off some of the things that

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<v Speaker 2>he did last year. There's some good and some you know,

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.680
<v Speaker 2>some stuff needs to get cleaned up. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>he would say the same thing. But I just think

0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:39.040
<v Speaker 2>a good, healthy quarterback room speaks a lot about your team.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know Texas has that right now. And obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you know Arches, you know, the highest rated recruit of

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<v Speaker 2>all time probably and a big deal that he's on

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<v Speaker 2>campus and you know the name recognition and who he is,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've got to spend good amounts of time with him.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's just he's just a class act and he's

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<v Speaker 2>works hard, and you know it doesn't want any favors.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's come into UT so much more prepared and

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<v Speaker 2>ready and like good head on his shoulders. Then I

0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:12.960
<v Speaker 2>wasn't even close to that when I mean, I had

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<v Speaker 2>to rid shirt like I was. I needed to mature,

0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:18.639
<v Speaker 2>I needed to grow, I needed to spend a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time in the weight room like there was. There

0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:23.199
<v Speaker 2>was a lot of things that needed to happen for me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, which ultimately did in order to play at UT.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I think if Texas needed ours to

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<v Speaker 2>play right now, I imagine he could.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's Cooper's son, correct, That's correct. For people that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't sure when they hear Manning, they don't know if

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:39.520
<v Speaker 1>they easily assume it's Peyton or Eli, but it's it's Cooper's.

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<v Speaker 2>Son, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>I had Texas last year at Oklahoma State. That was

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<v Speaker 1>not a good day for Quinn. But I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>Sark fan, and I'm really curious to see how they

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<v Speaker 1>do this year and then obviously next year. The best

0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:55.600
<v Speaker 1>quarterback I saw last year in person was Caleb Williams

0:20:55.600 --> 0:20:58.560
<v Speaker 1>for obvious reasons at USC. The second best that it

0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.600
<v Speaker 1>was pretty close, and I did North Carolina twice, was

0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Drake May. And obviously Mac Brown, who you're very close with,

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<v Speaker 1>who was your coach at Texas, is the coach at

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.200
<v Speaker 1>North Carolina. I don't know how much you've watched Drake

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<v Speaker 1>May because there's a lot of talk about the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four draft. Is it you know who's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the first pick? Are they gonna go one two?

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of like this year with with Bryce Young and

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<v Speaker 1>c J.

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<v Speaker 2>Stroud.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how much Drake May you've watched or

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<v Speaker 1>how much you've talked to Mack about him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know Coach Brown. Coach Brown loves Drake, He

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<v Speaker 2>loves Sam Howe. I mean, he's had some good quarterbacks

0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:35.600
<v Speaker 2>at North Carolina and coach Brown well speaking, I can

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:39.840
<v Speaker 2>only speak for myself, but you know, coach Brown expects

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about your from his quarterback, and you know,

0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.160
<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna play several years for him, Like you're

0:21:46.160 --> 0:21:50.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna you're gonna get earfulls from from coach Brown. But

0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:53.680
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was so fortunate to play for him

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:56.800
<v Speaker 2>for four years or really five because I red shirted

0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:00.359
<v Speaker 2>and have the same coach. Right, And I think those quarterbacks, Drake,

0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I think Sam Howe like those guys are tremendous talents,

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 2>but they're they benefit from having the same coach and

0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:14.080
<v Speaker 2>helping them along the way. And but from from what

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Coach Brown has told me, you know, it sounds like,

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:22.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, Drake is super talented, very competitive, played early,

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:25.399
<v Speaker 2>uh his brother, you know, and I think his family

0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.400
<v Speaker 2>are all like good athletes. I think his brother played

0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:32.520
<v Speaker 2>it played basketball in North Carolina. I think, yes, yes,

0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.280
<v Speaker 2>he was on the national championship. Yes, that's right, right,

0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 2>So just coach Brown just says, like, you know, they're

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:42.760
<v Speaker 2>big tar Hills, like their whole family like bleed blue

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and or what do they call baby blue, Carolina blue.

0:22:48.960 --> 0:22:52.439
<v Speaker 2>And so he's he thinks he's he thinks he's definitely

0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:54.960
<v Speaker 2>an NFL quarterback. And you know I know that they're

0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.639
<v Speaker 2>you know, they changed coordinators, but they're expecting a really

0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:02.360
<v Speaker 2>really big year and sounds like I think I read

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:04.960
<v Speaker 2>where college game days going there week one. Yes, they

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.640
<v Speaker 2>play South Carolina Carolina week one, so that'll be that'll

0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:10.960
<v Speaker 2>be a good first test for those guys.

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:14.879
<v Speaker 1>All right, last non Cardinals won and we'll start getting

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:17.800
<v Speaker 1>into this. But you and Kevin Durant to connect it

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>all here this summer because you were at Texas the

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.879
<v Speaker 1>same time that Durant was. I've actually covered him since

0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I did the McDonald's All America game like three years.

0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 1>One year was him with Greg Odin and everybody's talking

0:23:30.960 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>about Odin and there's this skinny kid at the time

0:23:33.440 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 1>KD was like six ' nine. Obviously he's sprouted. He's

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:38.639
<v Speaker 1>still listed. I think it's six ' nine, but he's not.

0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:43.199
<v Speaker 1>And we were watching this guy, uh and again in

0:23:43.280 --> 0:23:45.159
<v Speaker 1>high school like this dude is unbelievable. And then he

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:46.920
<v Speaker 1>did some of the Texas games that year, including a

0:23:46.960 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 1>game when he had thirty seven points and twenty three

0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:53.199
<v Speaker 1>rebounds at Texas Tech coached by Bob Knight. And then

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:57.159
<v Speaker 1>I've done his games, you know, in the NBA, and

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:01.119
<v Speaker 1>I've always had a I always like Kevin. My daughter

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>who's now twenty five, but her favorite player is Kevin

0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Durant for her sixteenth birthday. She wanted to meet him,

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 1>so she came with me to do a game in

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma City and got to meet him, and he could

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 1>not have been nicer. So it's like people say, don't

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.919
<v Speaker 1>meet your heroes, don't meet your idols, but yeah, she

0:24:17.480 --> 0:24:18.400
<v Speaker 1>loves him even more.

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.560
<v Speaker 2>But you've known Kevin for a long time, you get

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:23.159
<v Speaker 2>a chance to connect at all. Yeah. No, we were

0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 2>definitely acquaintances in college. He came in the year after me,

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:32.640
<v Speaker 2>but we lived in the same dorm, you know, where

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 2>all the athletes live. Like, you know, I just remember

0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 2>like this super tall, skinny guy coming in and you know,

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 2>no one really is saying much although he was like

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:47.320
<v Speaker 2>one of the highly touted recruits. Oh yeah, coming out

0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:49.600
<v Speaker 2>of college. He came up, you know, from way up

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 2>in the Northeast, and you don't really know much and

0:24:54.400 --> 0:24:56.359
<v Speaker 2>you go to like the first game over at the

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 2>Irwin Center and he drops like forty points and you're

0:24:59.240 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>just like, oh my, this guy took the game over.

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:06.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, just a phenomenal basketball player. And obviously like

0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 2>he's you know, one World Championships, he's won MVP, like

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 2>he's He's amazing and we have not connected here in Phoenix.

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:16.840
<v Speaker 2>We've we've talked to each other back and forth a

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 2>little bit. You know. Hopefully I can get out to

0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:22.439
<v Speaker 2>a game next trame. I did go to one of

0:25:22.440 --> 0:25:27.080
<v Speaker 2>the playoff games, saw him play. It wasn't good for us.

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Was it the Game six lost to Denver? Yeah, because

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:30.920
<v Speaker 1>that was that was the game we did. That game

0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>that was that was rough.

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:34.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, Denver was just gonna be hard to

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 2>beat regardless. But I'm glad he's in the valley and

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 2>he's a great dude, you know, and Longhorn stay together.

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>It was I hope for the Sun's sake and Sun's

0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.399
<v Speaker 1>fans sake that that that was an anomaly. I he

0:25:50.480 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 1>barely played in the regular season because he got hurt.

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I had a coach tell me after that Game six

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 1>loss that they were a little concerned because he They

0:25:59.400 --> 0:26:02.360
<v Speaker 1>thought this, this coach thought he was struggling to get

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 1>by people. And so my question was, have the injuries

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.680
<v Speaker 1>caught up to him? And this coach again his opinion,

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 1>it's very possible. So I'm curious because he's thirty four,

0:26:14.359 --> 0:26:17.639
<v Speaker 1>thirty five. He was eighteen when he came into the NBA.

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 1>He was I think seventeen the year he was at Texas,

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>so he's young. But I'm curious have all the injuries

0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:25.840
<v Speaker 1>caught to him. I hope not, because obviously living here

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>in the valley and want the sun to do well.

0:26:27.640 --> 0:26:29.520
<v Speaker 1>All right, go ahead, Were you going to say something?

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:33.439
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean maybe, I don't know. I know that

0:26:34.640 --> 0:26:36.040
<v Speaker 2>if the ball is in his hand, he's going to

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 2>find a way to get in the bucket. I mean,

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:40.480
<v Speaker 2>one of the lost his step or not. I think

0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.399
<v Speaker 2>he's still one of the best at scoring.

0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the greatest scorers in the history of

0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:44.680
<v Speaker 1>the game.

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:45.800
<v Speaker 2>All right.

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 1>In terms of the Cardinals, you talked about you're in

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:53.000
<v Speaker 1>a good place mentally that the summer was very beneficial

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 1>for you after friends, seeing friends, let go, teammates not back.

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>What's your mentality going into this camp knowing, first of all,

0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the Kyler's hurt. How do you going into camp as

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.480
<v Speaker 1>the starting quarterback? How do you handle that? I don't

0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.360
<v Speaker 1>how many times that's happened in your career where you've

0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>gone into camp as the starter. Obviously, you don't know

0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 1>whether Kyler is going to be back, when he's going

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.880
<v Speaker 1>to be back. But what's that like for you?

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think you know a few years

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 2>early on that was the case, right, and then I

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:27.040
<v Speaker 2>think you're always chasing that again, right. It's it's it's

0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 2>a cool feeling, like I don't take it lightly that

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 2>there's only thirty two guys to get to do this right.

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 2>And you know, at the same time, like whenever Kyler's healthy,

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 2>like Kyler, Kyler's going to step back on the field

0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 2>and take over, right, and he's in the meetings, he's

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:45.600
<v Speaker 2>working hard, he's he's doing his rehab like nobody knows

0:27:45.640 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>when that day is. And so for me, it's very

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 2>similar to the role I've been in the last two years.

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like always being ready, always studying, always learning, always preparing,

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 2>always asking questions, you know, you know, making sure that

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:03.200
<v Speaker 2>you know I'm in the best shape physically and mentally

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 2>to step out on the field and play however long

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 2>you need to play and do whatever I need to do,

0:28:07.680 --> 0:28:10.239
<v Speaker 2>because I want my teammates on the field to know

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:13.679
<v Speaker 2>that when I step in, like we're okay, Like he

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.600
<v Speaker 2>knows what he's doing. He's gonna get us in the

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 2>right plays, the right calls, the right checks, and we're

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna We're gonna be just fine. And you know, that's

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.879
<v Speaker 2>exactly how I'm approaching it. And I think you you

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.480
<v Speaker 2>hit it right. Like a ton of my closest friends

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.840
<v Speaker 2>are gone right. Some of all the old linemen guys,

0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.679
<v Speaker 2>the Rodney Hudson's, the Justin Pughes, like those guys that

0:28:34.720 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 2>you're close with, they're closer in as to you that

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.920
<v Speaker 2>you just you know, the toll that this game is

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>taken on their body. But you know everybody loves it.

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 2>They're they're just gone right. And you know, Cliff and

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Cam and just I could go down the list like that.

0:28:48.920 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 2>That's a hard process to go through emotionally and mentally.

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>And now I feel like through this break, I'm just

0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm in a way better place and I'm ready to

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>go back and play football right. I'm ready to see

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 2>what this team can do. And we're going to go

0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>build this team in training camp. And you know, I'm

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 2>certainly all in, and I'm fired up for the new

0:29:13.760 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 2>staff and for Coach Gannon and Coach Petsing, these guys

0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 2>who are implementing their new systems and you spend a

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of time with them, and I believe in them

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>and Manty have had good, great conversations with MANI like,

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>they are a great staff and they have great energy,

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 2>and this is a totally different team than the team

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 2>that we had last year. But I think we're all

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>excited and we're all ready to go build this thing

0:29:39.600 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and see what we can do. And you know how

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:44.840
<v Speaker 2>very many games I get to play, Like, you know,

0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I understand, you know the opportunity that that is, and

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go give it my all.

0:29:50.800 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>The first podcast for this was with Kurt Warner, and

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Kurt mentioned on this podcast, and I think he had

0:29:58.200 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>probably said it elsewhere, but I I wasn't one hundred

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 1>percent sure that that's not the first time I heard this.

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 1>He said going into two thousand and nine, he knew

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.959
<v Speaker 1>he was done because that was his last game, was

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>the Bounty Gate game in the playoffs against the Saints.

0:30:14.160 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>He gets blindsided and ended up retiring, and a lot

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>of people thought it was because of that, but he

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 1>had already made up his mind. The reason I bring

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:25.400
<v Speaker 1>that up is after the hit in Denver, which was

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.080
<v Speaker 1>really scary. I'm sure scarier for you, but just for

0:30:29.240 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>us seeing it like you rarely see a guy get.

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Up and then collapse.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know what all you remember, But did

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>you start to think, given you've had other concussions right

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 1>prior to that, and you're in your mid thirties, you've

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>been doing this a long time. How long did you think, hey,

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 1>you know what, maybe it's time or were you like,

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to I want.

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>To finish strong. I don't want to go out that way. Right. Well,

0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 2>I think ultimately I was protected by a lot of

0:30:57.800 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>people in the building by not playing late in the season, right,

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 2>And then you go through the process of you know what,

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:07.280
<v Speaker 2>what you kind of do every year is just evaluating

0:31:07.280 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 2>how your body feels. Like I did a lot of

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 2>cool treatments. I say cool, it's just newer technology and

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 2>things that they can help you with as far as

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, after concussion. And you know, I just was

0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>reacting to how my body felt, how my body responded

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 2>to some of these treatments. And again, you know, that's

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 2>all part of this process of figuring out, Okay, what

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:34.000
<v Speaker 2>does this next year look like? Right? All, a lot

0:31:34.040 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 2>of my boys are gone, like a lot of the

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>people in the building are new, Like you're coming off

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 2>of concussion, like you know, you had little elbow stuff like,

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.160
<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, like I prayed a lot

0:31:45.200 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 2>about it, right, you know, I think I lean on

0:31:48.520 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 2>my faith more than anything else in my life and

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>definitely want to uh follow that and understand like, okay,

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.040
<v Speaker 2>like there's there's always a time and a place for everything.

0:31:59.080 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 2>What is this season? And I feel like everything in

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 2>my life pointed back towards getting myself healthy and then

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>seeing what happens and this all is part of the plan.

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>And I feel stronger, I feel better, my arm feels good,

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:19.640
<v Speaker 2>my mind is is ready. You know. I know there's

0:32:19.720 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna be challenges. There's challenges in every year, right, but

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm in a place where I'm ready to take

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 2>on those and and plays as well as I can

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>and and go into this training camp with the mindset of,

0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, being the best version of myself and leading

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 2>this football team to the best of my ability for

0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>however long they asked me to do that. And I

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>can't wait. I'm excited and I'm thrilled. And it's all new, right,

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 2>this new system, new coaches, new players like that. It's

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 2>it's it's in my mind. It's just I'm hitting a

0:32:57.200 --> 0:32:59.880
<v Speaker 2>refresh button and let's go see what happens here.

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:03.040
<v Speaker 1>What are your biggest takeaways about the offense so far.

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>I've I've enjoyed learning this system, right. I've learned a

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 2>bunch of systems in my career. Right. I think my

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:18.880
<v Speaker 2>first five years in the NFL had new coordinators, which

0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:20.760
<v Speaker 2>is always tough. But at the same time, you know,

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>you you turn things into a positive. And you know,

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 2>I've I've seen a lot of different systems and different

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 2>philosophies and different ways to do different things. And I

0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 2>feel like the way that that Drew Is has presented

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>his offense to us is is great. Like he has

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:40.880
<v Speaker 2>a plan, he has a he has a purpose, he

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 2>has a reason every time I ask a question. He's

0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 2>a very good teacher. Uh, he's smart's first time calling plays,

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>but he knows what he wanted to look like. And

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:54.200
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's assembled his offensive staff and they're all

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 2>on the same page. And you know, there's never a

0:33:56.840 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>there is never a doubt of what we're doing or

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>what we're trying to plish, you know, when we have

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 2>the ball in our hands. And so, uh, it's been

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>it's been great. And I think he's going to be

0:34:06.240 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 2>very multiple. You know, he's he's not going to be

0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 2>just you know, you're not gonna We're gonna play in

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of different personnel groups. We're gonna utilize all

0:34:17.440 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the guys that we have, you know, I think you know,

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 2>in this league in fourteen years, like it's it's players,

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>not plays, and a lot of teams do the same

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 2>same stuff. But for us, I'm just I'm excited going

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>to training camp knowing that, like we all trust in

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 2>in what Drew has has brought us, we learned and

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>chipped away it a lot of different things in the

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>in the offseason, I think a lot of it will

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 2>will take shape and we'll figure out, you know what

0:34:44.560 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>we're really what's really going to be our bread and

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:47.720
<v Speaker 2>butter as we get into the season.

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I heard you say in a recent podcast that the

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 1>footwork is a lot different, and you know, for the fans,

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 1>for us, that doesn't it's hard for us to understand, Okay,

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>what does that mean? What does that look like?

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 2>So? Why is that so?

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 1>Why is that such an adjustment for a quarterback when

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the footwork in the system is different.

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:14.879
<v Speaker 2>Well, I was thinking about this during this break, So

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I started playing football in seventh grade. So seventh and

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:21.359
<v Speaker 2>eighth grade plus four years of high school, five years

0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 2>in NFL or five years in college, and fourteen in

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:27.839
<v Speaker 2>the NFL. That's twenty five years. I think I went

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 2>to ut with my math's good. I went to Syracuse.

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't help you, sorry, So I mean just just

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:37.080
<v Speaker 2>for you and for the fans. Like you know, as

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:42.800
<v Speaker 2>a quarterback, like everything is rhythm, everything is timing, everything

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 2>is like when you get out of that, like bad

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 2>things happen. But I've played with my right foot forward

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>in the shotgun or underneath the center for twenty five

0:35:55.280 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 2>years since seventh grade. And we were running shotgun in

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:04.600
<v Speaker 2>seventh grade. I ran, you know, the speed option, you know,

0:36:05.600 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 2>get get off the midline right like. But then as

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you get older, like you just you develop, like your

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:17.920
<v Speaker 2>comfort and and your stance and like it becomes second nature.

0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.279
<v Speaker 2>You don't think about it. Well, this offseason, Drew really

0:36:20.280 --> 0:36:23.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted me to go with my left foot forward in

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:27.800
<v Speaker 2>the shotgun. And when I tell you, that's not easy,

0:36:27.800 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not easy, but I'm feeling a lot more comfortable

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 2>with it. You know, it's something that Drew really believes in,

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:37.359
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I want to do it. How he

0:36:37.400 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 2>wants to wants to do it, and and so I've

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:46.840
<v Speaker 2>just I've really really worked countless hours making sure that

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 2>like that becomes second nature. And I and you know,

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 2>by the time I get into training camp, you know,

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.680
<v Speaker 2>next few days, I'm going to do my best not

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 2>to even think about it.

0:36:56.239 --> 0:37:00.239
<v Speaker 1>What's it like to have a coach that's your age up?

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Petting is the offensive coordinator, You're the same age. And

0:37:03.080 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I know you're close with Sean McVay and in Washington,

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I think Sean probably at the time was maybe five

0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 1>years older than you.

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Well, he still would be, right, No, Sean, Sean's five

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>months older than me. That's it. Yeah, Sewn and I

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>are you know, we're basically saying.

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.000
<v Speaker 1>We're saying, why does it feel like Shawn's been around

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.640
<v Speaker 1>forever yet he's still thirty six years old? I didn't

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>really for some reason, I thought he was older than

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>you by a few.

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:28.520
<v Speaker 2>He's thirty seven now, but he's We're we're like six

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 2>five or six months apart. How about are you older

0:37:31.080 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>than Drew? Have you figured that out? Older than Drew?

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm about a year older than Drew. Okay?

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Is that weird to be older than your coach.

0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>I was older than Cam last year, Cam Turner. Oh yeah,

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Kevin O'Connell and I are like really tight. Kevin's I

0:37:50.200 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>think two or three two and a half three years

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 2>older than me. So you're used to this. Yeah, you're

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 2>saying this is not a big deal. I actually think

0:37:55.800 --> 0:37:58.120
<v Speaker 2>it's it's not as big a deal as what people

0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>may think. Like, Drew's been around a lot of football. Yeah,

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 2>he's He's had he's learned from the best that's ever

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.240
<v Speaker 2>done what he's doing right, And I don't think there's

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.960
<v Speaker 2>any sort of like problem with him coaching me hard

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 2>or or getting on me or no, this is what

0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 2>I want. Like that relationship has been has been great. Right,

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 2>There's there's an ultimate respect factor from me and from

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 2>everybody just because like again I mentioned it early in

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 2>the podcast, like there's nothing easy about this league, right,

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 2>and you know guys who get to the top like this,

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>Like there's there's a there's a respect factor there that

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>just is you know, it's it's it's there, I mean.

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>And and our our relationship has been has been solid.

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Because you have a new coaching staff, you have a

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 1>first time head coach, first time offensive coordinator, are you

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>more involved? Are you more involved do you think in

0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:59.160
<v Speaker 1>game planning, in talking to your teammates. I mean you're

0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>always very vocal, very encouraging and positive. But do you

0:39:02.440 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 1>think there will be more of that since you're one

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of the few holdover leaders of not just the team

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>but the organization.

0:39:12.040 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I think we'll see, right, I think,

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, as you get going in training camp and

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>as you start putting those first game plans together, I

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:25.319
<v Speaker 2>think that it will all be done together. But at

0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 2>the same time, like you know, my goal going into

0:39:29.120 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 2>this campus to is to know and learn the offense

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.480
<v Speaker 2>as best as I can before we go out there

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 2>for week one. Right, that's still a work in progress,

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 2>and so I don't know that like my ideas and

0:39:42.920 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 2>what I want. You know that I was involved, you know,

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:48.800
<v Speaker 2>to an extent, especially the last two years with Cliff

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 2>and with Cam and those but you knew the system. Well.

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 2>I think we're getting to a point where we can

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:59.280
<v Speaker 2>we can get there. But any plan that gets put together,

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.439
<v Speaker 2>whether it's Kyler or me or whatever, or on any

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 2>team I've been on, you know, there's always that you know,

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 2>coach to quarterback like hey, Okay, here's our third down menu.

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, what do you feel most comfortable with? Like,

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 2>there's always that communication like that, and that's crucial right

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>to the play caller and the quarterback to be on

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the same page of what we like and don't like

0:40:23.320 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 2>and what we're seeing and being able to adjust in games.

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:28.879
<v Speaker 2>Like the goal is as we as we build this

0:40:28.920 --> 0:40:32.200
<v Speaker 2>thing over the next month, is to be able to

0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 2>get on that same page, and that's when things click.

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I watch Flight Plan. I don't know if you got

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.480
<v Speaker 1>to see it at all, and you know Kyler, you

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>know as well as anybody, but watching him there, I

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 1>was really encouraged by his maturity. Seems like he's grown

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.319
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. I don't know when your

0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>conversations with him or watching him rehab what you've been

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 1>able to glean because obviously it's a big year for

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>him coming off an injury. It's as much adversity is

0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:04.840
<v Speaker 1>he's probably facing his athletic life coming off this injury

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>and having to learn a new system, the footworking different,

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:10.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's got to be a challenge I would assume

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to be able to, you know, watch it and know

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>that you have to do it and then actually be

0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>out there doing it and then do it in a game.

0:41:17.160 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>What are some of the things you've been able to

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>glean from kind of watching Kyler go through this and

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>in your conversations with him.

0:41:22.440 --> 0:41:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kyler is, I mean, he's in. He's the ultimate competitor,

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:30.799
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, I think he's attacking his rehab. He

0:41:30.840 --> 0:41:33.320
<v Speaker 2>wants to be out on the field. He's good in meetings.

0:41:35.440 --> 0:41:37.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, there are some things that are going to

0:41:37.080 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 2>be different, Like we are we are going to huddle,

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.919
<v Speaker 2>we are going to call plays in the huddle. We're

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 2>going to use like you know, a lot of different

0:41:45.920 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 2>mechanics than what we did last year, right, And so

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 2>there's a I mean, just from the very beginning, there's

0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things to learn. But Kyler has jumped

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:56.680
<v Speaker 2>right in. He's he's doing the things that he can

0:41:56.719 --> 0:42:00.399
<v Speaker 2>do without actually being out there and call the plays

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.719
<v Speaker 2>and run the place. Right. But I bet he's out

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 2>there sooner than later would be my guess, just because

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 2>he's a competitor and wants to be and this is new,

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 2>and so I'm excited for him. I think anytime you

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>go into something that's new, right there, it takes some

0:42:19.320 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 2>time to learn and to feel comfortable with. And you know,

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 2>we talked about footwork and we talked about just the

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:28.319
<v Speaker 2>just the overall operation, like those are things that you

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 2>know he's gonna have to learn on the fly, you know,

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 2>because the moment that he's ready to play, he's he's

0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna go play. And so a lot of anything that

0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 2>I do or what what Drew coaches or sometimes like

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, some of the conversations we had this spring

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 2>were like, hey, like we haven't done this before, I

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.000
<v Speaker 2>haven't done this in a long time. This was this

0:42:49.160 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 2>was a little I need more reps at this. So

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 2>as you're going through your rehab, you know, this offseason,

0:42:55.320 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 2>like remember that this play is a little bit tricky.

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Like maybe it was the footwork, maybe it was your eyes,

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:04.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe it was like the throw was you know, got

0:43:04.040 --> 0:43:05.600
<v Speaker 2>to be more up and down than on a line,

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.560
<v Speaker 2>Like different things that I could tell him after getting

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:12.319
<v Speaker 2>the rep that you know, remember this right. And so

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 2>our communication has been has been really good. And I

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:21.280
<v Speaker 2>just I recognize and know that like injuries are hard.

0:43:21.680 --> 0:43:26.799
<v Speaker 2>They're hard emotionally, they're hard physically, they're hard mentally, and

0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:30.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're all your energy most days are going

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 2>into fixing that. Right, we've all had significant injuries. I

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 2>think for him, like we'll know when that that light

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:42.880
<v Speaker 2>bulb comes on, like Okay, I'm getting over this and

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm ready to like really soak up this information that

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 2>the moment I can get out there, I'm going and

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm excited for for him when that clicks.

0:43:51.960 --> 0:43:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Last one and most important one, where are we with

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>the family dog situation? Because my wife and I we

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 1>are one year away from being empty nesters. We've talked

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 1>about it because we have not had a dog, and

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we're gonna go down that road because

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>I know this is something that the kids have pushed

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:12.160
<v Speaker 1>you on. Correct, but you said it's a retirement thing.

0:44:12.200 --> 0:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>You worry about it much much.

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Ter well, I mean, listen, my kids can't even clean

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.279
<v Speaker 2>their rooms. I think they can't already make their bed.

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like without us just hounding them to do it,

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 2>like pick up the toys, clean your room, like make

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 2>your bed, like there's some response. So I mean during

0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:35.480
<v Speaker 2>football season, there's no chance. I love dogs. I love dogs.

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:39.120
<v Speaker 2>I grew up with labs, Like, there's no chance we're

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna have a dog right now, right, I mean and

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I've told my kids and some of them cried, and

0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm just like, someday, like, go play with the neighbor's dog.

0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:50.839
<v Speaker 2>That's great. Like enjoy that Justin Pugh has has two

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Golden Retrievers. He brings them to the house all the time.

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.279
<v Speaker 2>The kids love and they run, they play, and then

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.360
<v Speaker 2>they cry because I won't get them a dog. I'm like, God, someday,

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I would love to get a dog, But until you

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:04.439
<v Speaker 2>can prove to me that you can make your bed

0:45:04.480 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 2>and clean your room and not have you know, me

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 2>and your mommy picking up everything behind you, Like what

0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 2>makes me think that you can clean up after a

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.279
<v Speaker 2>dog or make sure that the dog lives by giving

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>it water and giving it food. Like there's so and so.

0:45:18.600 --> 0:45:21.600
<v Speaker 2>I just ended up saying, Guys, when I retire, we

0:45:21.680 --> 0:45:24.759
<v Speaker 2>can talk about having a dog. And so half my

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:26.920
<v Speaker 2>kids want me to retire. Half my kids want me

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:30.240
<v Speaker 2>to play. Well, we hope you keep playing. Colt.

0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:33.400
<v Speaker 1>It's always fun talking to you. Thanks for spending some

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:34.359
<v Speaker 1>time with me. Appreciate it.

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 2>You betcha man.

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Thanks always a pleasure to talk with. Colt, one of

0:45:40.680 --> 0:45:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the great guys in sports, been around a long time.

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>You're fourteen, now in the NFL, been with a lot

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>of different organizations. Third year with the Cardinals, thirty six

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:54.799
<v Speaker 1>career starts. Will it be thirty seven come Week one

0:45:54.920 --> 0:45:58.560
<v Speaker 1>against Washington, which would be interesting from a lot of perspectives,

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:01.440
<v Speaker 1>particularly the Colts been a good part of his career

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 1>in Washington from twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen. It was

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.600
<v Speaker 1>good to get an update on Coletealth, also get his

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.879
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on Kyler and the growth maturity that we've seen

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 1>from Kyler over the off season, and also good to

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:17.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of get the perspective from a quarterback on what

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>it's like to make the transition to broadcasting, something he's

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>toying with and obviously got some experience this summer calling

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:27.640
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