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Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome back to the Dave Pash Podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host ESPN and Arizona Cardinals play by play

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Speaker 1: announcer Dave Pash. We have been on a break, but

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Speaker 1: we are back in a big way our Cards Camp

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Speaker 1: Kickoff edition with Colt McCoy, the presumed starting quarterback for

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, depending obviously on the health of Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk with Colt about what it's like going

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Speaker 2: It's a cool feeling, like I don't take it lightly

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Speaker 2: that there's only thirty two guys to get to do this.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to go back and play football right I'm

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Speaker 2: ready to see what this team can do.

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Speaker 1: Colt will also talk about Drew Petsing, the new offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: and play calling, some of the differences in this offense

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Speaker 1: compared to what he's used to, as well as some

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Speaker 1: of the things that Colt did in the offseason, including

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Speaker 1: broadcasting some USFL.

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Speaker 1: time for our conversation with Cardinals quarterback Colt McCoy. So, Colt,

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Speaker 1: forgive me if I'm a little rusty, because it's been

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Speaker 1: a while, not only since I've done a podcast, but

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Speaker 1: since I've done a game. In fact, in the last

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Speaker 1: two months, you have called more games.

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Speaker 2: Than I have.

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Speaker 1: My last TV game was Phoenix Denver Game six, and

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Speaker 1: then I did Eastern Conference Finals for ESPN Radio. But

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Speaker 1: still that ended before your two games for NBC. First,

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Speaker 1: tell me about that experience. And I actually did NFL

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Speaker 1: Europe like twenty years ago, and they would have current

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Speaker 1: players as analysts.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys after that were like, I'm never

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Speaker 1: doing this again, or some were like I can't wait

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Speaker 1: to do this again.

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Speaker 2: Where are you? Yeah? That is crazy. Yeah, I called

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Speaker 2: a couple USFL games in June, and you know what,

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Speaker 2: outside of the travel, I had to travel to Canton,

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Speaker 2: my flights got canceled. You know. I ended up getting

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Speaker 2: but I just I really enjoyed, you know, that vantage

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Speaker 2: point and talking to Paul Burmeister actually had him both times.

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Speaker 2: He was fantastic. He helped me a ton along the way.

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Speaker 2: Our verbal communication skills were pretty good. We we had

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Speaker 2: I just enjoyed seeing both sides of the of the field,

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Speaker 2: you're talking defense. You know, when you play a football game,

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Speaker 1: And you were saying that before the first game. I

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Speaker 1: You're used to having somebody in your ear as a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely unique, right because most of the time

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Speaker 1: So between the broadcasting and obviously the offseason work with

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Speaker 1: Do you have a particular routine that you do in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Now I feel like I'm in a really good place.

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Speaker 1: We're at home sleeping as you should, getting your rest,

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Speaker 1: And that's Cooper's son, correct, That's correct. For people that

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Speaker 2: it played basketball in North Carolina. I think, yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: he was on the national championship. Yes, that's right, right,

435
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: So just coach Brown just says, like, you know, they're

436
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: big tar Hills, like their whole family like bleed blue

437
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 2: and or what do they call baby blue, Carolina blue.

438
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 2: And so he's he thinks he's he thinks he's definitely

439
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback. And you know I know that they're

440
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: you know, they changed coordinators, but they're expecting a really

441
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 2: really big year and sounds like I think I read

442
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: where college game days going there week one. Yes, they

443
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 2: play South Carolina Carolina week one, so that'll be that'll

444
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: be a good first test for those guys.

445
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: All right, last non Cardinals won and we'll start getting

446
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: into this. But you and Kevin Durant to connect it

447
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: all here this summer because you were at Texas the

448
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: same time that Durant was. I've actually covered him since

449
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: I did the McDonald's All America game like three years.

450
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: One year was him with Greg Odin and everybody's talking

451
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 1: about Odin and there's this skinny kid at the time

452
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 1: KD was like six ' nine. Obviously he's sprouted. He's

453
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: still listed. I think it's six ' nine, but he's not.

454
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: And we were watching this guy, uh and again in

455
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: high school like this dude is unbelievable. And then he

456
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: did some of the Texas games that year, including a

457
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: game when he had thirty seven points and twenty three

458
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: rebounds at Texas Tech coached by Bob Knight. And then

459
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Speaker 1: I've done his games, you know, in the NBA, and

460
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Speaker 1: I've always had a I always like Kevin. My daughter

461
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 1: who's now twenty five, but her favorite player is Kevin

462
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: Durant for her sixteenth birthday. She wanted to meet him,

463
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: so she came with me to do a game in

464
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City and got to meet him, and he could

465
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Speaker 1: not have been nicer. So it's like people say, don't

466
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: meet your heroes, don't meet your idols, but yeah, she

467
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: loves him even more.

468
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: But you've known Kevin for a long time, you get

469
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: a chance to connect at all. Yeah. No, we were

470
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: definitely acquaintances in college. He came in the year after me,

471
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 2: but we lived in the same dorm, you know, where

472
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: all the athletes live. Like, you know, I just remember

473
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: like this super tall, skinny guy coming in and you know,

474
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 2: no one really is saying much although he was like

475
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 2: one of the highly touted recruits. Oh yeah, coming out

476
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: of college. He came up, you know, from way up

477
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: in the Northeast, and you don't really know much and

478
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 2: you go to like the first game over at the

479
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 2: Irwin Center and he drops like forty points and you're

480
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: just like, oh my, this guy took the game over.

481
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 2: I mean, just a phenomenal basketball player. And obviously like

482
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: he's you know, one World Championships, he's won MVP, like

483
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: he's He's amazing and we have not connected here in Phoenix.

484
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 2: We've we've talked to each other back and forth a

485
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: little bit. You know. Hopefully I can get out to

486
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 2: a game next trame. I did go to one of

487
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 2: the playoff games, saw him play. It wasn't good for us.

488
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Speaker 1: Was it the Game six lost to Denver? Yeah, because

489
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: that was that was the game we did. That game

490
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Speaker 1: that was that was rough.

491
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Denver was just gonna be hard to

492
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Speaker 2: beat regardless. But I'm glad he's in the valley and

493
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: he's a great dude, you know, and Longhorn stay together.

494
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: It was I hope for the Sun's sake and Sun's

495
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: fans sake that that that was an anomaly. I he

496
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: barely played in the regular season because he got hurt.

497
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: I had a coach tell me after that Game six

498
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 1: loss that they were a little concerned because he They

499
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: thought this, this coach thought he was struggling to get

500
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: by people. And so my question was, have the injuries

501
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: caught up to him? And this coach again his opinion,

502
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: it's very possible. So I'm curious because he's thirty four,

503
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 1: thirty five. He was eighteen when he came into the NBA.

504
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: He was I think seventeen the year he was at Texas,

505
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: so he's young. But I'm curious have all the injuries

506
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: caught to him. I hope not, because obviously living here

507
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: in the valley and want the sun to do well.

508
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, Were you going to say something?

509
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Speaker 2: No, I mean maybe, I don't know. I know that

510
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: if the ball is in his hand, he's going to

511
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 2: find a way to get in the bucket. I mean,

512
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: one of the lost his step or not. I think

513
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 2: he's still one of the best at scoring.

514
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Speaker 1: He's one of the greatest scorers in the history of

515
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Speaker 1: the game.

516
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Speaker 2: All right.

517
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Speaker 1: In terms of the Cardinals, you talked about you're in

518
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: a good place mentally that the summer was very beneficial

519
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: for you after friends, seeing friends, let go, teammates not back.

520
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: What's your mentality going into this camp knowing, first of all,

521
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: the Kyler's hurt. How do you going into camp as

522
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback? How do you handle that? I don't

523
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: how many times that's happened in your career where you've

524
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: gone into camp as the starter. Obviously, you don't know

525
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: whether Kyler is going to be back, when he's going

526
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: to be back. But what's that like for you?

527
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think you know a few years

528
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 2: early on that was the case, right, and then I

529
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: think you're always chasing that again, right. It's it's it's

530
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: a cool feeling, like I don't take it lightly that

531
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: there's only thirty two guys to get to do this right.

532
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: And you know, at the same time, like whenever Kyler's healthy,

533
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: like Kyler, Kyler's going to step back on the field

534
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: and take over, right, and he's in the meetings, he's

535
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: working hard, he's he's doing his rehab like nobody knows

536
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: when that day is. And so for me, it's very

537
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: similar to the role I've been in the last two years.

538
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: It's like always being ready, always studying, always learning, always preparing,

539
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: always asking questions, you know, you know, making sure that

540
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: you know I'm in the best shape physically and mentally

541
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: to step out on the field and play however long

542
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 2: you need to play and do whatever I need to do,

543
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,239
Speaker 2: because I want my teammates on the field to know

544
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 2: that when I step in, like we're okay, Like he

545
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. He's gonna get us in the

546
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 2: right plays, the right calls, the right checks, and we're

547
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna be just fine. And you know, that's

548
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: exactly how I'm approaching it. And I think you you

549
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: hit it right. Like a ton of my closest friends

550
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: are gone right. Some of all the old linemen guys,

551
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 2: the Rodney Hudson's, the Justin Pughes, like those guys that

552
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: you're close with, they're closer in as to you that

553
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: you just you know, the toll that this game is

554
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: taken on their body. But you know everybody loves it.

555
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: They're they're just gone right. And you know, Cliff and

556
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: Cam and just I could go down the list like that.

557
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: That's a hard process to go through emotionally and mentally.

558
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: And now I feel like through this break, I'm just

559
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm in a way better place and I'm ready to

560
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: go back and play football right. I'm ready to see

561
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: what this team can do. And we're going to go

562
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: build this team in training camp. And you know, I'm

563
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 2: certainly all in, and I'm fired up for the new

564
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: staff and for Coach Gannon and Coach Petsing, these guys

565
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: who are implementing their new systems and you spend a

566
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: lot of time with them, and I believe in them

567
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 2: and Manty have had good, great conversations with MANI like,

568
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: they are a great staff and they have great energy,

569
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: and this is a totally different team than the team

570
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: that we had last year. But I think we're all

571
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: excited and we're all ready to go build this thing

572
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 2: and see what we can do. And you know how

573
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: very many games I get to play, Like, you know,

574
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: I understand, you know the opportunity that that is, and

575
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to go give it my all.

576
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Speaker 1: The first podcast for this was with Kurt Warner, and

577
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: Kurt mentioned on this podcast, and I think he had

578
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: probably said it elsewhere, but I I wasn't one hundred

579
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: percent sure that that's not the first time I heard this.

580
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: He said going into two thousand and nine, he knew

581
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,959
Speaker 1: he was done because that was his last game, was

582
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: the Bounty Gate game in the playoffs against the Saints.

583
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: He gets blindsided and ended up retiring, and a lot

584
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: of people thought it was because of that, but he

585
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: had already made up his mind. The reason I bring

586
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: that up is after the hit in Denver, which was

587
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: really scary. I'm sure scarier for you, but just for

588
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: us seeing it like you rarely see a guy get.

589
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Up and then collapse.

590
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know what all you remember, But did

591
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: you start to think, given you've had other concussions right

592
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: prior to that, and you're in your mid thirties, you've

593
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: been doing this a long time. How long did you think, hey,

594
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe it's time or were you like,

595
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, I want to I want.

596
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Speaker 2: To finish strong. I don't want to go out that way. Right. Well,

597
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: I think ultimately I was protected by a lot of

598
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 2: people in the building by not playing late in the season, right,

599
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: And then you go through the process of you know what,

600
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: what you kind of do every year is just evaluating

601
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: how your body feels. Like I did a lot of

602
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: cool treatments. I say cool, it's just newer technology and

603
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: things that they can help you with as far as

604
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 2: you know, after concussion. And you know, I just was

605
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: reacting to how my body felt, how my body responded

606
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: to some of these treatments. And again, you know, that's

607
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: all part of this process of figuring out, Okay, what

608
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: does this next year look like? Right? All, a lot

609
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: of my boys are gone, like a lot of the

610
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: people in the building are new, Like you're coming off

611
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: of concussion, like you know, you had little elbow stuff like,

612
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: but at the same time, like I prayed a lot

613
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 2: about it, right, you know, I think I lean on

614
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: my faith more than anything else in my life and

615
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: definitely want to uh follow that and understand like, okay,

616
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: like there's there's always a time and a place for everything.

617
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 2: What is this season? And I feel like everything in

618
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: my life pointed back towards getting myself healthy and then

619
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: seeing what happens and this all is part of the plan.

620
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: And I feel stronger, I feel better, my arm feels good,

621
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 2: my mind is is ready. You know. I know there's

622
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: gonna be challenges. There's challenges in every year, right, but

623
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm I'm in a place where I'm ready to take

624
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: on those and and plays as well as I can

625
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: and and go into this training camp with the mindset of,

626
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: you know, being the best version of myself and leading

627
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: this football team to the best of my ability for

628
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: however long they asked me to do that. And I

629
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: can't wait. I'm excited and I'm thrilled. And it's all new, right,

630
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: this new system, new coaches, new players like that. It's

631
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: it's it's in my mind. It's just I'm hitting a

632
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: refresh button and let's go see what happens here.

633
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Speaker 1: What are your biggest takeaways about the offense so far.

634
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: I've I've enjoyed learning this system, right. I've learned a

635
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: bunch of systems in my career. Right. I think my

636
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: first five years in the NFL had new coordinators, which

637
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: is always tough. But at the same time, you know,

638
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 2: you you turn things into a positive. And you know,

639
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: I've I've seen a lot of different systems and different

640
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: philosophies and different ways to do different things. And I

641
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: feel like the way that that Drew Is has presented

642
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: his offense to us is is great. Like he has

643
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: a plan, he has a he has a purpose, he

644
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: has a reason every time I ask a question. He's

645
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: a very good teacher. Uh, he's smart's first time calling plays,

646
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: but he knows what he wanted to look like. And

647
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 2: you know, he's assembled his offensive staff and they're all

648
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: on the same page. And you know, there's never a

649
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: there is never a doubt of what we're doing or

650
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 2: what we're trying to plish, you know, when we have

651
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: the ball in our hands. And so, uh, it's been

652
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: it's been great. And I think he's going to be

653
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: very multiple. You know, he's he's not going to be

654
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: just you know, you're not gonna We're gonna play in

655
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: a lot of different personnel groups. We're gonna utilize all

656
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: the guys that we have, you know, I think you know,

657
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 2: in this league in fourteen years, like it's it's players,

658
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: not plays, and a lot of teams do the same

659
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: same stuff. But for us, I'm just I'm excited going

660
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: to training camp knowing that, like we all trust in

661
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: in what Drew has has brought us, we learned and

662
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: chipped away it a lot of different things in the

663
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: in the offseason, I think a lot of it will

664
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: will take shape and we'll figure out, you know what

665
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: we're really what's really going to be our bread and

666
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 2: butter as we get into the season.

667
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: I heard you say in a recent podcast that the

668
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: footwork is a lot different, and you know, for the fans,

669
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: for us, that doesn't it's hard for us to understand, Okay,

670
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: what does that mean? What does that look like?

671
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: So? Why is that so?

672
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: Why is that such an adjustment for a quarterback when

673
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: the footwork in the system is different.

674
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking about this during this break, So

675
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: I started playing football in seventh grade. So seventh and

676
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: eighth grade plus four years of high school, five years

677
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: in NFL or five years in college, and fourteen in

678
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: the NFL. That's twenty five years. I think I went

679
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: to ut with my math's good. I went to Syracuse.

680
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 2: I can't help you, sorry, So I mean just just

681
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: for you and for the fans. Like you know, as

682
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 2: a quarterback, like everything is rhythm, everything is timing, everything

683
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: is like when you get out of that, like bad

684
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: things happen. But I've played with my right foot forward

685
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 2: in the shotgun or underneath the center for twenty five

686
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: years since seventh grade. And we were running shotgun in

687
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: seventh grade. I ran, you know, the speed option, you know,

688
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: get get off the midline right like. But then as

689
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: you get older, like you just you develop, like your

690
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: comfort and and your stance and like it becomes second nature.

691
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: You don't think about it. Well, this offseason, Drew really

692
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: wanted me to go with my left foot forward in

693
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 2: the shotgun. And when I tell you, that's not easy,

694
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: it's not easy, but I'm feeling a lot more comfortable

695
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: with it. You know, it's something that Drew really believes in,

696
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: and you know, I want to do it. How he

697
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,919
Speaker 2: wants to wants to do it, and and so I've

698
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: just I've really really worked countless hours making sure that

699
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: like that becomes second nature. And I and you know,

700
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 2: by the time I get into training camp, you know,

701
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: next few days, I'm going to do my best not

702
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: to even think about it.

703
00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: What's it like to have a coach that's your age up?

704
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: Petting is the offensive coordinator, You're the same age. And

705
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: I know you're close with Sean McVay and in Washington,

706
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: I think Sean probably at the time was maybe five

707
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: years older than you.

708
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 2: Well, he still would be, right, No, Sean, Sean's five

709
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 2: months older than me. That's it. Yeah, Sewn and I

710
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: are you know, we're basically saying.

711
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: We're saying, why does it feel like Shawn's been around

712
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: forever yet he's still thirty six years old? I didn't

713
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: really for some reason, I thought he was older than

714
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: you by a few.

715
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 2: He's thirty seven now, but he's We're we're like six

716
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: five or six months apart. How about are you older

717
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: than Drew? Have you figured that out? Older than Drew?

718
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: I'm about a year older than Drew. Okay?

719
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: Is that weird to be older than your coach.

720
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: I was older than Cam last year, Cam Turner. Oh yeah,

721
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell and I are like really tight. Kevin's I

722
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: think two or three two and a half three years

723
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: older than me. So you're used to this. Yeah, you're

724
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: saying this is not a big deal. I actually think

725
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: it's it's not as big a deal as what people

726
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: may think. Like, Drew's been around a lot of football. Yeah,

727
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: he's He's had he's learned from the best that's ever

728
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: done what he's doing right, And I don't think there's

729
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: any sort of like problem with him coaching me hard

730
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 2: or or getting on me or no, this is what

731
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: I want. Like that relationship has been has been great. Right,

732
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: There's there's an ultimate respect factor from me and from

733
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: everybody just because like again I mentioned it early in

734
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: the podcast, like there's nothing easy about this league, right,

735
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: and you know guys who get to the top like this,

736
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: Like there's there's a there's a respect factor there that

737
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 2: just is you know, it's it's it's there, I mean.

738
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: And and our our relationship has been has been solid.

739
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: Because you have a new coaching staff, you have a

740
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: first time head coach, first time offensive coordinator, are you

741
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: more involved? Are you more involved do you think in

742
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: game planning, in talking to your teammates. I mean you're

743
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: always very vocal, very encouraging and positive. But do you

744
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: think there will be more of that since you're one

745
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: of the few holdover leaders of not just the team

746
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: but the organization.

747
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we'll see, right, I think,

748
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: you know, as you get going in training camp and

749
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: as you start putting those first game plans together, I

750
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: think that it will all be done together. But at

751
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: the same time, like you know, my goal going into

752
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 2: this campus to is to know and learn the offense

753
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: as best as I can before we go out there

754
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 2: for week one. Right, that's still a work in progress,

755
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: and so I don't know that like my ideas and

756
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: what I want. You know that I was involved, you know,

757
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 2: to an extent, especially the last two years with Cliff

758
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: and with Cam and those but you knew the system. Well.

759
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: I think we're getting to a point where we can

760
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 2: we can get there. But any plan that gets put together,

761
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 2: whether it's Kyler or me or whatever, or on any

762
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: team I've been on, you know, there's always that you know,

763
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: coach to quarterback like hey, Okay, here's our third down menu.

764
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: You know, what do you feel most comfortable with? Like,

765
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: there's always that communication like that, and that's crucial right

766
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: to the play caller and the quarterback to be on

767
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 2: the same page of what we like and don't like

768
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: and what we're seeing and being able to adjust in games.

769
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 2: Like the goal is as we as we build this

770
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 2: thing over the next month, is to be able to

771
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: get on that same page, and that's when things click.

772
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: I watch Flight Plan. I don't know if you got

773
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: to see it at all, and you know Kyler, you

774
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 1: know as well as anybody, but watching him there, I

775
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: was really encouraged by his maturity. Seems like he's grown

776
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. I don't know when your

777
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: conversations with him or watching him rehab what you've been

778
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: able to glean because obviously it's a big year for

779
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: him coming off an injury. It's as much adversity is

780
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: he's probably facing his athletic life coming off this injury

781
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: and having to learn a new system, the footworking different,

782
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: and it's got to be a challenge I would assume

783
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, watch it and know

784
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: that you have to do it and then actually be

785
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: out there doing it and then do it in a game.

786
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: What are some of the things you've been able to

787
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: glean from kind of watching Kyler go through this and

788
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: in your conversations with him.

789
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyler is, I mean, he's in. He's the ultimate competitor,

790
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: So I mean, I think he's attacking his rehab. He

791
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,320
Speaker 2: wants to be out on the field. He's good in meetings.

792
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: You know, there are some things that are going to

793
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: be different, Like we are we are going to huddle,

794
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,919
Speaker 2: we are going to call plays in the huddle. We're

795
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: going to use like you know, a lot of different

796
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: mechanics than what we did last year, right, And so

797
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: there's a I mean, just from the very beginning, there's

798
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: a lot of things to learn. But Kyler has jumped

799
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 2: right in. He's he's doing the things that he can

800
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 2: do without actually being out there and call the plays

801
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 2: and run the place. Right. But I bet he's out

802
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: there sooner than later would be my guess, just because

803
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: he's a competitor and wants to be and this is new,

804
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: and so I'm excited for him. I think anytime you

805
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: go into something that's new, right there, it takes some

806
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: time to learn and to feel comfortable with. And you know,

807
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: we talked about footwork and we talked about just the

808
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 2: just the overall operation, like those are things that you

809
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: know he's gonna have to learn on the fly, you know,

810
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: because the moment that he's ready to play, he's he's

811
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: gonna go play. And so a lot of anything that

812
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: I do or what what Drew coaches or sometimes like

813
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: you know, some of the conversations we had this spring

814
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: were like, hey, like we haven't done this before, I

815
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 2: haven't done this in a long time. This was this

816
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: was a little I need more reps at this. So

817
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: as you're going through your rehab, you know, this offseason,

818
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: like remember that this play is a little bit tricky.

819
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: Like maybe it was the footwork, maybe it was your eyes,

820
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: maybe it was like the throw was you know, got

821
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 2: to be more up and down than on a line,

822
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: Like different things that I could tell him after getting

823
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: the rep that you know, remember this right. And so

824
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: our communication has been has been really good. And I

825
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:21,280
Speaker 2: just I recognize and know that like injuries are hard.

826
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: They're hard emotionally, they're hard physically, they're hard mentally, and

827
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: you know, you're all your energy most days are going

828
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: into fixing that. Right, we've all had significant injuries. I

829
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 2: think for him, like we'll know when that that light

830
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: bulb comes on, like Okay, I'm getting over this and

831
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: I'm ready to like really soak up this information that

832
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: the moment I can get out there, I'm going and

833
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm excited for for him when that clicks.

834
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: Last one and most important one, where are we with

835
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: the family dog situation? Because my wife and I we

836
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 1: are one year away from being empty nesters. We've talked

837
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: about it because we have not had a dog, and

838
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna go down that road because

839
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: I know this is something that the kids have pushed

840
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: you on. Correct, but you said it's a retirement thing.

841
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: You worry about it much much.

842
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: Ter well, I mean, listen, my kids can't even clean

843
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 2: their rooms. I think they can't already make their bed.

844
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: It's like without us just hounding them to do it,

845
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: like pick up the toys, clean your room, like make

846
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: your bed, like there's some response. So I mean during

847
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: football season, there's no chance. I love dogs. I love dogs.

848
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: I grew up with labs, Like, there's no chance we're

849
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 2: gonna have a dog right now, right, I mean and

850
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: I've told my kids and some of them cried, and

851
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm just like, someday, like, go play with the neighbor's dog.

852
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: That's great. Like enjoy that Justin Pugh has has two

853
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: Golden Retrievers. He brings them to the house all the time.

854
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: The kids love and they run, they play, and then

855
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 2: they cry because I won't get them a dog. I'm like, God, someday,

856
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: I would love to get a dog, But until you

857
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 2: can prove to me that you can make your bed

858
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: and clean your room and not have you know, me

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Speaker 2: I just ended up saying, Guys, when I retire, we

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Speaker 2: to play. Well, we hope you keep playing. Colt.

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Speaker 1: It's always fun talking to you. Thanks for spending some

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Speaker 2: You betcha man.

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Speaker 1: Thanks always a pleasure to talk with. Colt, one of

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Speaker 1: the great guys in sports, been around a long time.

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Speaker 1: You're fourteen, now in the NFL, been with a lot

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Speaker 1: of different organizations. Third year with the Cardinals, thirty six

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Speaker 1: career starts. Will it be thirty seven come Week one

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Speaker 1: against Washington, which would be interesting from a lot of perspectives,

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Speaker 1: particularly the Colts been a good part of his career

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Speaker 1: in Washington from twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen. It was

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Speaker 1: good to get an update on Coletealth, also get his

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Speaker 1: thoughts on Kyler and the growth maturity that we've seen

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Speaker 1: it's like to make the transition to broadcasting, something he's

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Speaker 1: toying with and obviously got some experience this summer calling

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