1 00:00:14,916 --> 00:00:32,596 Speaker 1: Pushkin girl. If I hadn't gone through all the stuff 2 00:00:32,636 --> 00:00:34,956 Speaker 1: that I've been through, I would not be funny at all. 3 00:00:35,156 --> 00:00:37,916 Speaker 1: Like if you think about it, like everything that I 4 00:00:37,956 --> 00:00:40,596 Speaker 1: am capable of, that how am I able to access 5 00:00:40,756 --> 00:00:46,756 Speaker 1: it comes from all of the tragedy. That's Tiffany Hattish. 6 00:00:47,036 --> 00:00:49,796 Speaker 1: She's a badass comedian who's won an Emmy for her 7 00:00:49,836 --> 00:00:53,596 Speaker 1: performance hosting Saturday Night Live. Her Netflix special won her 8 00:00:53,636 --> 00:00:56,916 Speaker 1: a Grammy for Best Comedy Album, and she's also been 9 00:00:56,996 --> 00:00:59,916 Speaker 1: in the hit blockbuster movies Bad Trip and Girls Trip. 10 00:01:01,276 --> 00:01:03,676 Speaker 1: This movie had made history, had made a one hundred 11 00:01:03,836 --> 00:01:07,636 Speaker 1: million dollars plus, okay, and I'm trying to figure out 12 00:01:07,636 --> 00:01:09,516 Speaker 1: where is maka of that money because I have this 13 00:01:09,556 --> 00:01:12,396 Speaker 1: sing it at all? Yeah, And all my friends are 14 00:01:12,396 --> 00:01:14,596 Speaker 1: telling me, Tiffany, you will start now, you big time. 15 00:01:14,596 --> 00:01:16,876 Speaker 1: You're bawling out of control, and I'm looking at my 16 00:01:16,916 --> 00:01:22,516 Speaker 1: bank account. Like I love Tiffany's irreverence. She is really, 17 00:01:22,756 --> 00:01:25,636 Speaker 1: really funny. But the reason I wanted to talk to 18 00:01:25,676 --> 00:01:28,756 Speaker 1: Tiffany is not because she's funny. It's because of how 19 00:01:28,796 --> 00:01:32,036 Speaker 1: she uses funny, how she's turned her comedy into a 20 00:01:32,156 --> 00:01:36,556 Speaker 1: superpower to navigate the profound changes She's confronted in her life. 21 00:01:37,516 --> 00:01:40,916 Speaker 1: Comedy isn't just something Tiffany does on stage, it's how 22 00:01:40,956 --> 00:01:45,116 Speaker 1: she survives. I'm maya Shunker. I study how and why 23 00:01:45,156 --> 00:01:47,556 Speaker 1: we change, and my work as a cognitive scientist has 24 00:01:47,596 --> 00:01:51,236 Speaker 1: taken me all over, including the Obama White House. All 25 00:01:51,276 --> 00:01:54,796 Speaker 1: season long, I'll have intimate conversations with folks who've navigated 26 00:01:55,076 --> 00:01:58,756 Speaker 1: remarkable change in their lives, and hopefully it'll get us 27 00:01:58,756 --> 00:02:03,316 Speaker 1: to think differently about change in our own lives. This 28 00:02:03,436 --> 00:02:28,276 Speaker 1: is a slight change of plants. I want to introduce myself. 29 00:02:28,796 --> 00:02:33,636 Speaker 1: I googled you. Okay, I'm a cognitive scientist. No, I 30 00:02:34,116 --> 00:02:37,156 Speaker 1: read that you was the Obama psychic. I came here 31 00:02:37,156 --> 00:02:40,916 Speaker 1: to get a reading. No, I'm just flying. Your future 32 00:02:41,116 --> 00:02:45,236 Speaker 1: is looking right, okay. Um, look, Tiffany. The reason I'm 33 00:02:45,276 --> 00:02:48,996 Speaker 1: so excited to interview you is because you have one 34 00:02:49,036 --> 00:02:53,436 Speaker 1: of the most radiant personalities, and I think that it's 35 00:02:53,476 --> 00:02:58,516 Speaker 1: easy for people to forget just how challenging your childhood was. Um, 36 00:02:58,676 --> 00:03:00,236 Speaker 1: so you don't mind, I'm just going to jump right in. 37 00:03:00,636 --> 00:03:03,916 Speaker 1: That's mom My mom worked the graveyard shift at the 38 00:03:03,916 --> 00:03:07,276 Speaker 1: post office. She gets something from working like six five 39 00:03:07,316 --> 00:03:09,876 Speaker 1: in the morning or whatever. I was probably like six. 40 00:03:10,276 --> 00:03:13,076 Speaker 1: I used to make these mudpies. I used to take 41 00:03:13,156 --> 00:03:15,636 Speaker 1: all these spices and seasons that I could get to 42 00:03:15,676 --> 00:03:18,316 Speaker 1: in the cabinet and I would mix everything together and 43 00:03:18,396 --> 00:03:20,676 Speaker 1: make her like a patty. But I wake her up 44 00:03:20,676 --> 00:03:24,636 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, thieves are for you, mommy, and 45 00:03:24,756 --> 00:03:26,956 Speaker 1: she would go, oh, thank you. And I'd be like, 46 00:03:27,276 --> 00:03:31,316 Speaker 1: because you work so hard, then you're the best working 47 00:03:31,476 --> 00:03:34,836 Speaker 1: mommy ever. And she would go, oh, thank you very much. 48 00:03:34,916 --> 00:03:38,036 Speaker 1: Now let working mommy sleep. And then I go, okay, 49 00:03:38,356 --> 00:03:39,916 Speaker 1: I let her sleep. And then me and my sister 50 00:03:39,916 --> 00:03:42,516 Speaker 1: will be playing and I would be trying to clean 51 00:03:42,596 --> 00:03:45,396 Speaker 1: up the kitchen and she come in and she's seen 52 00:03:45,436 --> 00:03:47,196 Speaker 1: me trying to clean up, and then she would pick 53 00:03:47,276 --> 00:03:50,796 Speaker 1: me up. She gave me the best. She used to 54 00:03:50,836 --> 00:03:55,156 Speaker 1: have the best, the best hugs. Sometimes I dream about 55 00:03:55,196 --> 00:04:00,156 Speaker 1: those hugs, Like those hugs that's like you just feel 56 00:04:00,196 --> 00:04:02,436 Speaker 1: like you're in that person's body, like you're in the 57 00:04:02,476 --> 00:04:07,436 Speaker 1: safest place, like just so warm. You feel like the 58 00:04:07,476 --> 00:04:10,196 Speaker 1: back of you can't even be seen. All their meat 59 00:04:10,236 --> 00:04:13,396 Speaker 1: has just sucked you in. You can take a deep 60 00:04:13,436 --> 00:04:15,756 Speaker 1: breath and just let all your pain out in their chest. 61 00:04:16,996 --> 00:04:21,516 Speaker 1: That version of Tiffany's childhood changes in an instant. Your 62 00:04:21,556 --> 00:04:24,276 Speaker 1: mom got into a terrible car accident when you were eight. 63 00:04:25,076 --> 00:04:28,676 Speaker 1: Do you mind sharing how that changed your relationship with her? Oh? 64 00:04:28,716 --> 00:04:33,316 Speaker 1: My goodness. Okay, so that changed the entire dynamic. It 65 00:04:33,516 --> 00:04:36,956 Speaker 1: flipped it in a way. Okay, So my mom had 66 00:04:36,996 --> 00:04:40,436 Speaker 1: the accident. She was in the hospital for like three months, right, 67 00:04:40,916 --> 00:04:43,836 Speaker 1: And during that three month process were with my grandmother 68 00:04:43,916 --> 00:04:46,636 Speaker 1: and my aunties. And when my mom came out of 69 00:04:46,636 --> 00:04:49,956 Speaker 1: the hospital, and mind you, she had to learn how 70 00:04:49,996 --> 00:04:55,196 Speaker 1: to talk, walk, eat, everything all over again. And I 71 00:04:55,276 --> 00:04:57,676 Speaker 1: remember the day we went to go get her. The 72 00:04:58,116 --> 00:05:01,996 Speaker 1: doctor said, you're gonna have to be your mom's biggest helper. 73 00:05:02,556 --> 00:05:04,396 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to grow up now. You're gonna have 74 00:05:04,436 --> 00:05:06,756 Speaker 1: to be right there for all the time. And I 75 00:05:06,836 --> 00:05:10,116 Speaker 1: remember telling him, no problem. I love her. She's whatever 76 00:05:10,156 --> 00:05:13,796 Speaker 1: she needs, I'm gonna do it right. So I'm doing 77 00:05:13,836 --> 00:05:18,036 Speaker 1: these things everything. I mean, she taught me how to 78 00:05:18,036 --> 00:05:19,996 Speaker 1: tie my shoe. Now I'm teaching her how to tie 79 00:05:19,996 --> 00:05:22,276 Speaker 1: her shoe. She taught me how to make hot dogs. 80 00:05:22,276 --> 00:05:25,236 Speaker 1: Now I'm teaching her how to make hot docts. Everything 81 00:05:25,276 --> 00:05:29,916 Speaker 1: that she taught me, like, I'm teaching her, and then 82 00:05:29,916 --> 00:05:33,116 Speaker 1: it was so many things that because it was hard 83 00:05:33,156 --> 00:05:34,836 Speaker 1: for her to communicate, like my mom was like an 84 00:05:34,836 --> 00:05:40,796 Speaker 1: excellent communicator. She had this crazy vernacular and now she 85 00:05:40,836 --> 00:05:44,196 Speaker 1: barely has any words and she couldn't express herself, so 86 00:05:44,236 --> 00:05:47,836 Speaker 1: she started to become violent. So it became this relationship 87 00:05:47,876 --> 00:05:51,276 Speaker 1: of the person that I loved the most less planning, 88 00:05:51,676 --> 00:05:54,996 Speaker 1: the first person I ever loved like she was my 89 00:05:55,076 --> 00:06:00,836 Speaker 1: God is now my tormentor. And she was so mean. 90 00:06:01,036 --> 00:06:03,036 Speaker 1: She was set of meaning shit in the world, like 91 00:06:03,556 --> 00:06:06,796 Speaker 1: crush your spirit type stuff, and it made me start 92 00:06:06,796 --> 00:06:10,796 Speaker 1: to resent her and hate her. Right. Not until I 93 00:06:10,796 --> 00:06:14,556 Speaker 1: got older did I realize like she had she had 94 00:06:14,636 --> 00:06:16,876 Speaker 1: brain damage. And I mean, the doctor explain that to me, 95 00:06:17,356 --> 00:06:20,076 Speaker 1: but that does not register as a child when I 96 00:06:20,196 --> 00:06:23,556 Speaker 1: just think about like I could feel how I felt them, 97 00:06:23,756 --> 00:06:28,996 Speaker 1: just like constant fear trying to figure out how not 98 00:06:29,036 --> 00:06:31,476 Speaker 1: to get my neck broke or another tooth knocked out 99 00:06:31,556 --> 00:06:35,796 Speaker 1: my head, or you know, just constantly trying to figure 100 00:06:35,796 --> 00:06:38,996 Speaker 1: out how do I make this person happy enough to 101 00:06:39,156 --> 00:06:43,956 Speaker 1: not hurt me. Is that when you realize, like, hey, 102 00:06:43,996 --> 00:06:46,716 Speaker 1: wait a second, I think my humor has power, Like 103 00:06:46,756 --> 00:06:50,316 Speaker 1: I can use it to get out of dangerous situations 104 00:06:50,556 --> 00:06:54,076 Speaker 1: or help get me what I want. Yeah, humor is 105 00:06:54,116 --> 00:06:57,596 Speaker 1: definitely a power, and I definitely realized that as a kid. 106 00:06:58,036 --> 00:07:02,556 Speaker 1: It got me hit less or make her forget to 107 00:07:02,716 --> 00:07:06,756 Speaker 1: lay her thought of what she's gonna do, and then 108 00:07:06,796 --> 00:07:09,516 Speaker 1: I was able to I was using that in school 109 00:07:09,516 --> 00:07:12,236 Speaker 1: because I was getting bullied in school because I didn't 110 00:07:12,276 --> 00:07:15,436 Speaker 1: have the best clothes, my hair wasn't done the best 111 00:07:15,476 --> 00:07:19,556 Speaker 1: like I was because I was raising I was raising 112 00:07:19,596 --> 00:07:22,676 Speaker 1: me and my brothers and sisters, working to try to 113 00:07:22,716 --> 00:07:25,476 Speaker 1: make sure my sisters and brothers eating, that they have 114 00:07:25,636 --> 00:07:28,316 Speaker 1: clothes and that they're clean, and that you know, like 115 00:07:28,436 --> 00:07:31,276 Speaker 1: in getting those food stamps in the mail and helping 116 00:07:31,316 --> 00:07:33,436 Speaker 1: my mom get the groceries and all this stuff, like 117 00:07:34,356 --> 00:07:37,836 Speaker 1: and it's so crazy because I couldn't even barely read, right, 118 00:07:37,956 --> 00:07:43,676 Speaker 1: I'm doing all this grown mom's stuff. Tiffany's mom doesn't improve, 119 00:07:44,116 --> 00:07:48,116 Speaker 1: and eventually she becomes so unwell Tiffany and her siblings 120 00:07:48,156 --> 00:07:52,076 Speaker 1: are forced to enter the foster care system. She's thirteen. 121 00:07:52,956 --> 00:07:56,116 Speaker 1: She moves from foster home to foster home, lugging her 122 00:07:56,116 --> 00:07:59,716 Speaker 1: stuff around with her in a garbage bag. Throughout all 123 00:07:59,756 --> 00:08:04,516 Speaker 1: of this, her one constant is humor. I would try 124 00:08:04,556 --> 00:08:06,796 Speaker 1: to make like my foster parents and the like group 125 00:08:06,836 --> 00:08:09,476 Speaker 1: palm leaders and stuff, try to make them so they 126 00:08:09,516 --> 00:08:11,796 Speaker 1: could keep me around, so they want me around. And 127 00:08:12,276 --> 00:08:13,916 Speaker 1: you know, for a while, I was feeling like, dang, 128 00:08:13,916 --> 00:08:16,236 Speaker 1: am I not good enough? Nobody wants me. They don't 129 00:08:16,276 --> 00:08:18,436 Speaker 1: love me, they don't like me. Like I'm trying to 130 00:08:18,436 --> 00:08:19,876 Speaker 1: be nice, I'm trying to make them laughs. I don't 131 00:08:19,956 --> 00:08:22,516 Speaker 1: understand they laughing at all my jokes, but I don't 132 00:08:22,596 --> 00:08:26,716 Speaker 1: understand what's wrong. And later on I learned that that's 133 00:08:26,716 --> 00:08:29,236 Speaker 1: not always up to them, and so a lot of 134 00:08:29,236 --> 00:08:31,476 Speaker 1: times up to the court system, you know, the age 135 00:08:31,516 --> 00:08:33,716 Speaker 1: limits and blah blah blah, so many things that have 136 00:08:33,876 --> 00:08:36,116 Speaker 1: nothing to do with you. Yeah, that thing to do 137 00:08:36,156 --> 00:08:39,196 Speaker 1: with you, but doesn't mean that it did not affect 138 00:08:39,236 --> 00:08:45,716 Speaker 1: me mentally absolutely, But my comedy, it also catapulted me 139 00:08:45,756 --> 00:08:49,436 Speaker 1: and it got me help in school. Like like I said, 140 00:08:49,476 --> 00:08:51,316 Speaker 1: I couldn't read that good, but I had a really 141 00:08:51,316 --> 00:08:53,676 Speaker 1: great memory. So I would get like I would make 142 00:08:53,716 --> 00:08:56,036 Speaker 1: somebody laugh, a guy laugh that had a cool deep voice, 143 00:08:56,036 --> 00:08:57,316 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, can you read this to me? 144 00:08:57,356 --> 00:08:59,836 Speaker 1: And I memorize everything he said, and I'll be able 145 00:08:59,836 --> 00:09:04,636 Speaker 1: to regurgitate that verbatim in class. By the time Tiffany 146 00:09:04,636 --> 00:09:08,036 Speaker 1: gets to high school, she's getting into trouble a lot, 147 00:09:08,396 --> 00:09:12,836 Speaker 1: a lot. It gets to the point where Tiffany's social 148 00:09:12,876 --> 00:09:15,916 Speaker 1: worker is so tired of showing up to school she 149 00:09:16,076 --> 00:09:19,236 Speaker 1: gives Tiffany an ultimatum. She was like, Okay, Tiffany, you 150 00:09:19,316 --> 00:09:21,596 Speaker 1: got two choices this summer. You can go to the 151 00:09:21,676 --> 00:09:23,876 Speaker 1: Laugh Factory comedy camp, and you can go to psychiatric 152 00:09:23,916 --> 00:09:27,036 Speaker 1: therapy because something is wrong with you. You're not normal. 153 00:09:27,636 --> 00:09:30,236 Speaker 1: And I was like, which one got drugs? And she said, 154 00:09:30,236 --> 00:09:32,276 Speaker 1: You're definitely gonna be on drugs if you go to therapy. 155 00:09:32,476 --> 00:09:34,916 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'll be damned. I don't want that. 156 00:09:34,996 --> 00:09:37,156 Speaker 1: I don't want those drugs, So I'll go to the 157 00:09:37,196 --> 00:09:40,676 Speaker 1: comedy camp. I'm trying to imagine what it was like 158 00:09:40,716 --> 00:09:43,076 Speaker 1: on that first day of comedy camp. They sent the 159 00:09:43,156 --> 00:09:45,996 Speaker 1: paper right that says you've been accepted to comedy camp 160 00:09:46,076 --> 00:09:49,876 Speaker 1: and there'll be a lunch provided please be prepared to 161 00:09:49,916 --> 00:09:53,516 Speaker 1: talk for three minutes and we will have there will 162 00:09:53,556 --> 00:09:58,076 Speaker 1: be comedians there to help you grow in public speaking 163 00:09:58,236 --> 00:10:03,476 Speaker 1: and comedy. Right. So on the way there, I'm thinking, 164 00:10:03,596 --> 00:10:08,076 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna have lunch today on a Saturday. Normally 165 00:10:08,116 --> 00:10:10,676 Speaker 1: you don't. We don't eat lu Saturday. As you get breakfast, 166 00:10:11,156 --> 00:10:13,316 Speaker 1: you kind of play all day, do whatever all day, 167 00:10:13,356 --> 00:10:16,356 Speaker 1: and then you get dinner. So I'm excited. I'm gonna 168 00:10:16,356 --> 00:10:19,756 Speaker 1: get three meals today. All right, Saturday boom, I'm gonna 169 00:10:19,796 --> 00:10:21,876 Speaker 1: get lunch. Then I'm like, I'm thinking of all the 170 00:10:22,036 --> 00:10:24,996 Speaker 1: like little monologues that I know in my head I 171 00:10:25,076 --> 00:10:28,236 Speaker 1: can do, and I'll just like make a fart noise 172 00:10:28,356 --> 00:10:31,436 Speaker 1: or do a funny pose or something to make it great. 173 00:10:32,276 --> 00:10:35,036 Speaker 1: Comedy Camp is a summer program hosted by well known 174 00:10:35,076 --> 00:10:39,596 Speaker 1: comedians like Dave Chappelle, Eddie Murphy, and Charles Fleischer. And 175 00:10:39,716 --> 00:10:42,916 Speaker 1: this is where Tiffany finally gets to showcase her comedic 176 00:10:42,956 --> 00:10:47,396 Speaker 1: powers to the world. I get there and Charles Fleischer 177 00:10:47,556 --> 00:10:50,196 Speaker 1: is there. I don't really I know the name, but 178 00:10:50,236 --> 00:10:54,236 Speaker 1: I'm don't recognize him. And he gets on stage and 179 00:10:54,356 --> 00:10:56,636 Speaker 1: he introduced it. He says, welcome to the Life Factory 180 00:10:56,676 --> 00:11:00,556 Speaker 1: Comedy Camp. Everybody, my name is Charles Fleischer. You may 181 00:11:00,636 --> 00:11:04,396 Speaker 1: recognize my voice from movies like Who Frame Roger Rabbit. 182 00:11:04,716 --> 00:11:07,116 Speaker 1: My philosophy is this, if you don't have a good 183 00:11:07,116 --> 00:11:11,276 Speaker 1: sense of humor. Yeah better, I'm dead. I start screaming 184 00:11:11,396 --> 00:11:15,796 Speaker 1: at the top of my lines, like and everybody's looking 185 00:11:15,796 --> 00:11:17,156 Speaker 1: at me, like what, And I was like, I love 186 00:11:17,276 --> 00:11:21,196 Speaker 1: Roger Rabbit. That's why I'm funny because of Roger Rabbit. 187 00:11:22,116 --> 00:11:25,116 Speaker 1: I got I love Roger Rabbit. And he goes, what 188 00:11:25,156 --> 00:11:27,236 Speaker 1: do you love about Roger Robbit? And I tell him 189 00:11:27,276 --> 00:11:29,796 Speaker 1: about the scene in the movie when the detective says 190 00:11:29,836 --> 00:11:32,596 Speaker 1: to the rabbit, why are these people doing these nice 191 00:11:32,636 --> 00:11:35,156 Speaker 1: things for you? And the rabbit says, because I make 192 00:11:35,196 --> 00:11:37,396 Speaker 1: them laugh, Eddie, If you make people laugh, they'll do 193 00:11:37,556 --> 00:11:40,396 Speaker 1: anything for you. And I said, that's what I've been 194 00:11:40,436 --> 00:11:42,396 Speaker 1: doing all these years. You know. That's how I've been 195 00:11:42,396 --> 00:11:43,956 Speaker 1: able to get people to help me read. That's how 196 00:11:43,956 --> 00:11:45,716 Speaker 1: I get people to let me cheat on their homework. 197 00:11:46,116 --> 00:11:48,756 Speaker 1: You know. That's how I get like an extra coffeecake 198 00:11:48,916 --> 00:11:53,396 Speaker 1: and breakfast. And when I went to that comedy camp, 199 00:11:53,796 --> 00:11:57,396 Speaker 1: it changed everything because it was the first time I 200 00:11:57,476 --> 00:11:59,716 Speaker 1: felt and they told me I'm smart. I'm like me, 201 00:11:59,876 --> 00:12:03,076 Speaker 1: I'm smart, Like, oh, you're talented, meet me, I'm talented. 202 00:12:03,716 --> 00:12:05,916 Speaker 1: That was a feeling I never felt before. I felt safe. 203 00:12:07,036 --> 00:12:09,716 Speaker 1: This camp proves to be a real up ortunity. For 204 00:12:09,756 --> 00:12:12,436 Speaker 1: Tiffany and she gets to be on TV for the 205 00:12:12,476 --> 00:12:15,556 Speaker 1: first time in her life. Channel two News in LA 206 00:12:15,796 --> 00:12:19,596 Speaker 1: wants to do a story on her. Tiffany is thrilled, 207 00:12:20,236 --> 00:12:22,836 Speaker 1: but she's a minor, so she needs a parent or 208 00:12:22,876 --> 00:12:26,196 Speaker 1: guardian to sign a media release form, and because she's 209 00:12:26,196 --> 00:12:28,996 Speaker 1: in the foster care system, the government has to play 210 00:12:28,996 --> 00:12:32,036 Speaker 1: this role. So she goes to the LA Family Court 211 00:12:32,156 --> 00:12:34,676 Speaker 1: to get in front of a judge, and in typical 212 00:12:34,716 --> 00:12:39,996 Speaker 1: Tiffany fashion, she is on a mission. So the first day, 213 00:12:40,196 --> 00:12:43,236 Speaker 1: I go to that courtroom and I'm sitting there. I'm 214 00:12:43,276 --> 00:12:45,596 Speaker 1: sitting there, and I'm sitting there and nobody's really paying 215 00:12:45,636 --> 00:12:48,356 Speaker 1: me any attention. I'm sitting there, sitting there, and I'm 216 00:12:48,356 --> 00:12:51,556 Speaker 1: listening to all these other cases, these kids things. Nobody's 217 00:12:51,636 --> 00:12:55,756 Speaker 1: paying me any freaking attention at all. And in the 218 00:12:55,956 --> 00:12:58,996 Speaker 1: day the court day's over. Before I left the courtroom, 219 00:12:59,036 --> 00:13:00,756 Speaker 1: I saw that there was a sign I said no gun, 220 00:13:00,996 --> 00:13:04,956 Speaker 1: no food, no drinks, no magazines, no this, all these nos. 221 00:13:05,316 --> 00:13:07,516 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm gonna guess those tomorrow. So 222 00:13:07,916 --> 00:13:10,196 Speaker 1: I come back the next day. Right to come back 223 00:13:10,236 --> 00:13:15,556 Speaker 1: the next day, I brought up magazines, walk man, you 224 00:13:15,596 --> 00:13:21,716 Speaker 1: know food, I had soda everything right, yep. First I 225 00:13:21,836 --> 00:13:23,876 Speaker 1: break out the magazine and I start chewing the gun 226 00:13:24,116 --> 00:13:26,516 Speaker 1: that star drinking the dream. The judgment was like, who 227 00:13:26,516 --> 00:13:29,556 Speaker 1: are you? I'm like, I'm Tiffany Hottish, and I need 228 00:13:29,596 --> 00:13:32,476 Speaker 1: you to sign the release forms for me? Like what 229 00:13:33,516 --> 00:13:36,676 Speaker 1: they get my case? Has me come up there? Asked me, 230 00:13:36,716 --> 00:13:38,716 Speaker 1: what do you need a release forms signed for a why? 231 00:13:38,756 --> 00:13:41,076 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. I tell them why because I want 232 00:13:41,116 --> 00:13:42,836 Speaker 1: to be a comedian. I'm gonna be like one of 233 00:13:42,836 --> 00:13:45,956 Speaker 1: the greatest comedians in the world. And he was laughing 234 00:13:46,076 --> 00:13:48,396 Speaker 1: and smiling. He looked like the quake gir olds man 235 00:13:48,836 --> 00:13:51,596 Speaker 1: and he's like, you know what, if you are half 236 00:13:51,636 --> 00:13:54,356 Speaker 1: as funny on stages you are right now, then you 237 00:13:54,396 --> 00:13:56,916 Speaker 1: deserve it. And signed a release and I was able 238 00:13:56,956 --> 00:13:59,396 Speaker 1: to go on the news. So what was it like 239 00:13:59,476 --> 00:14:02,636 Speaker 1: seeing yourself on TV? Well, girl, let me tell you something. 240 00:14:02,676 --> 00:14:04,516 Speaker 1: First of all, I did not get to see myself 241 00:14:04,596 --> 00:14:08,436 Speaker 1: right away because Princess Diana died and got me bumped. Okay, 242 00:14:08,716 --> 00:14:11,556 Speaker 1: I got bumped, and then it was like not till 243 00:14:11,636 --> 00:14:14,076 Speaker 1: the fall. I didn't get to see it because I 244 00:14:14,116 --> 00:14:16,116 Speaker 1: was at like track practice or something. By the time 245 00:14:16,116 --> 00:14:20,356 Speaker 1: I got home it was like already off. So I 246 00:14:20,476 --> 00:14:23,796 Speaker 1: called the news station and got the video and then 247 00:14:23,836 --> 00:14:25,516 Speaker 1: I saw it. I like for people to see me 248 00:14:25,556 --> 00:14:27,436 Speaker 1: and laughed. I don't care if you're laughing at me 249 00:14:27,516 --> 00:14:30,796 Speaker 1: or with me, as long as you're laughing right. And 250 00:14:30,836 --> 00:14:35,716 Speaker 1: I was like beaming from ear to ear, like wow, 251 00:14:35,796 --> 00:14:37,716 Speaker 1: I thought I looked pretty. I thought I looked a 252 00:14:37,716 --> 00:14:41,916 Speaker 1: little weird, but it was really cool. When Tiffany turns eighteen, 253 00:14:42,396 --> 00:14:44,956 Speaker 1: she's out of the foster care system and on her own. 254 00:14:45,516 --> 00:14:47,996 Speaker 1: She's got nowhere to go, so she starts living out 255 00:14:48,036 --> 00:14:51,476 Speaker 1: of her car, a car she's now immortalized in her 256 00:14:51,516 --> 00:14:53,836 Speaker 1: stand up routine. And I used to be my little 257 00:14:53,876 --> 00:14:56,636 Speaker 1: Geo Metro. That ship was packed out, but I was 258 00:14:56,676 --> 00:14:59,396 Speaker 1: class with mine. I slept in real nice places. I 259 00:14:59,476 --> 00:15:04,436 Speaker 1: lived in Beverly Hills Beach, kept it classic. Police will 260 00:15:04,516 --> 00:15:06,716 Speaker 1: come every morning about seven. They would make me move. 261 00:15:06,916 --> 00:15:08,516 Speaker 1: It was like an alarm clocket. Was cool. I was like, 262 00:15:08,516 --> 00:15:11,996 Speaker 1: that's why I pay taxes, Thank you police. I'd only 263 00:15:11,996 --> 00:15:14,916 Speaker 1: ever heard the stand up version of Tiffany's story about 264 00:15:14,956 --> 00:15:19,636 Speaker 1: being homeless. I wanted to hear the real life one. Yeah, 265 00:15:19,636 --> 00:15:22,996 Speaker 1: I get emancipated and I get homeless. And I have 266 00:15:23,036 --> 00:15:26,156 Speaker 1: to figure out how I'm gonna survive. So I was 267 00:15:26,276 --> 00:15:28,836 Speaker 1: doing the Bermitsist, but that wasn't really paying. I'm just 268 00:15:28,956 --> 00:15:31,796 Speaker 1: doing comedy shows, but that's like twenty dollars to ten 269 00:15:31,836 --> 00:15:34,756 Speaker 1: dollars a show. That's not really enough to survive one. 270 00:15:35,276 --> 00:15:38,236 Speaker 1: So I got a job working in customer service at 271 00:15:38,236 --> 00:15:41,556 Speaker 1: an airline, and then I kind of moved around from 272 00:15:41,596 --> 00:15:44,116 Speaker 1: airline the airline, and I was there for some years, 273 00:15:44,756 --> 00:15:47,436 Speaker 1: and then I got depressed and I ended up in 274 00:15:47,516 --> 00:15:50,756 Speaker 1: psychiatric therapy because I had stopped doing stand up altogether. 275 00:15:51,316 --> 00:15:54,116 Speaker 1: And my therapist was like, what makes you happy? What 276 00:15:54,276 --> 00:15:57,236 Speaker 1: makes you feel good? And I'm like, hearing people laugh, 277 00:15:57,436 --> 00:16:01,276 Speaker 1: seeing people's smiles, that makes me feel good. And she's like, 278 00:16:01,316 --> 00:16:03,156 Speaker 1: why don't you get back into stand up as like 279 00:16:03,236 --> 00:16:07,196 Speaker 1: a hobby? You know the psychiatrist story. I almost feel 280 00:16:07,196 --> 00:16:11,316 Speaker 1: like you're underselling it because you're telling these stories to 281 00:16:11,396 --> 00:16:17,236 Speaker 1: your psychiatrist and she cannot shop cracking up. Oh my gosh, 282 00:16:17,236 --> 00:16:20,236 Speaker 1: she made me sum. She wouldn't laugh at everything exactly, 283 00:16:20,916 --> 00:16:24,836 Speaker 1: laughing at everything, like you are so funny that a 284 00:16:24,996 --> 00:16:28,636 Speaker 1: trained mental health professional who's trying to give you counsel 285 00:16:28,996 --> 00:16:31,916 Speaker 1: cannot keep her shit together. I mean, it's a show 286 00:16:31,996 --> 00:16:34,556 Speaker 1: not tell situation. It's like, Tiffany, I don't need to 287 00:16:34,596 --> 00:16:37,276 Speaker 1: tell you to become a comedian at this point. Right, 288 00:16:37,756 --> 00:16:40,036 Speaker 1: she was right? So you so you have this big 289 00:16:40,036 --> 00:16:42,316 Speaker 1: turning point. Right, So the psychiatrist says, hey, this is 290 00:16:42,636 --> 00:16:44,236 Speaker 1: you know, this is what you love. Just give it 291 00:16:44,276 --> 00:16:48,196 Speaker 1: a try. What is it about being on stage and 292 00:16:48,276 --> 00:16:53,556 Speaker 1: performing that really speaks to you while I feel safe? Right? 293 00:16:53,676 --> 00:16:56,716 Speaker 1: And it's like, if anybody's gonna try to hurt you, 294 00:16:57,596 --> 00:17:03,596 Speaker 1: they can't because you have witnesses. That's what you have, witnesses. Right, 295 00:17:03,956 --> 00:17:07,836 Speaker 1: If somebody tries to do something, at least one person 296 00:17:07,916 --> 00:17:11,476 Speaker 1: in that room will be like, that's not right, stop it, 297 00:17:12,236 --> 00:17:15,156 Speaker 1: or I got your back, tipp for me. I'll confess 298 00:17:15,356 --> 00:17:19,756 Speaker 1: for you. It is really striking, and I think it 299 00:17:19,756 --> 00:17:23,596 Speaker 1: says everything about your story that you sought physical safety 300 00:17:23,636 --> 00:17:25,956 Speaker 1: on stage, right. I mean you hear all these performers 301 00:17:26,036 --> 00:17:29,156 Speaker 1: say being on stage, that's right, comfort zone, and that's 302 00:17:29,156 --> 00:17:30,916 Speaker 1: where I feel most at home. I used to say 303 00:17:30,916 --> 00:17:33,396 Speaker 1: things like that, but we always mean it in a 304 00:17:33,436 --> 00:17:36,516 Speaker 1: metaphorical sense, and I think you know you meet it 305 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:41,276 Speaker 1: in a physical sense. Yeah, you know you're not alone. 306 00:17:42,716 --> 00:17:50,876 Speaker 1: The immediate, like gratification that I see you, I'm here 307 00:17:50,916 --> 00:17:55,036 Speaker 1: with you, We're present, right, Like, that's why I love 308 00:17:55,076 --> 00:17:59,076 Speaker 1: doing live shows. That laughter, it comes right out of 309 00:17:59,076 --> 00:18:03,156 Speaker 1: people's mouths directly to your ears, may bounce off the 310 00:18:03,196 --> 00:18:06,676 Speaker 1: walls and amplify you feel it through your whole soul, 311 00:18:07,676 --> 00:18:15,116 Speaker 1: Like it is the most wonderful drug. For me. It's 312 00:18:15,156 --> 00:18:18,676 Speaker 1: how I get high. It soothed me, and I don't 313 00:18:18,716 --> 00:18:21,796 Speaker 1: know why. That's my soothing thing, even like if I 314 00:18:21,796 --> 00:18:25,796 Speaker 1: get really depressed, that's my medicine. You're not that question. 315 00:18:25,836 --> 00:18:27,876 Speaker 1: I said, if you can have any superpower, what would 316 00:18:27,876 --> 00:18:31,116 Speaker 1: it be. I have it. I have a superpower, and 317 00:18:31,156 --> 00:18:36,316 Speaker 1: it's to control people's happiness. Right. If I could control 318 00:18:36,396 --> 00:18:40,076 Speaker 1: people's happiness, like if I step in a room and 319 00:18:40,156 --> 00:18:44,756 Speaker 1: everybody lights up, everybody gets joyous, that's a really good thing. 320 00:18:45,276 --> 00:18:47,236 Speaker 1: And then you could I feel like you could dominate 321 00:18:47,316 --> 00:18:49,556 Speaker 1: the whole world with that, Like you could rule the world. 322 00:18:49,836 --> 00:18:57,116 Speaker 1: And so am I a superhero? Yes? That's why. After 323 00:18:57,156 --> 00:19:01,156 Speaker 1: the break, Tiffany talks about processing all the change she's 324 00:19:01,196 --> 00:19:04,756 Speaker 1: been through. We'll be right back with a slight change 325 00:19:04,756 --> 00:19:16,236 Speaker 1: of plans. I'm maya Shunker and we're back with a 326 00:19:16,276 --> 00:19:19,116 Speaker 1: slight change of plants, and as a heads up, we're 327 00:19:19,116 --> 00:19:21,516 Speaker 1: going to be talking about sexual assault at a moment. 328 00:19:22,756 --> 00:19:25,756 Speaker 1: Tiffany's gone through so many changes in her life, using 329 00:19:25,796 --> 00:19:28,676 Speaker 1: comedy as a tool over and over again to survive. 330 00:19:29,516 --> 00:19:32,036 Speaker 1: But are there times where comedy's fallen short for her 331 00:19:32,476 --> 00:19:36,036 Speaker 1: when life is simply too dark to laugh about. For example, 332 00:19:36,116 --> 00:19:38,956 Speaker 1: when Tiffany was twenty, she said her stepfather told her 333 00:19:38,996 --> 00:19:41,156 Speaker 1: he had cut the break lines on her mom's car 334 00:19:41,276 --> 00:19:44,116 Speaker 1: before the accident in order to try and kill her 335 00:19:44,116 --> 00:19:48,596 Speaker 1: family and collect life insurance. You learned as an adult 336 00:19:48,676 --> 00:19:51,156 Speaker 1: that your mom's car accident may not have actually been 337 00:19:51,196 --> 00:19:54,196 Speaker 1: an accident after all. Can you tell me more about that? 338 00:19:54,876 --> 00:19:58,956 Speaker 1: I just I g it makes that makes me so 339 00:19:59,156 --> 00:20:01,676 Speaker 1: mad when I think, like, I get really upset about it. 340 00:20:02,316 --> 00:20:03,956 Speaker 1: But at the same time I can find a funny 341 00:20:03,996 --> 00:20:06,956 Speaker 1: any Like this guy was a sniper. He was in 342 00:20:07,076 --> 00:20:08,876 Speaker 1: the you know, he was in a military. His job 343 00:20:08,996 --> 00:20:12,476 Speaker 1: was to kill people. That's such a job and he 344 00:20:12,556 --> 00:20:15,276 Speaker 1: wasn't obviously wasn't that good at it. Because we're still 345 00:20:15,316 --> 00:20:19,436 Speaker 1: all alive, Like, you know what, I can't find the 346 00:20:19,516 --> 00:20:21,876 Speaker 1: funny what I have still yet to be able to 347 00:20:21,916 --> 00:20:24,716 Speaker 1: find to be able to make funny. And I have 348 00:20:24,876 --> 00:20:29,556 Speaker 1: tried many times, and I just I'm not capable of 349 00:20:29,596 --> 00:20:32,796 Speaker 1: it because I feel like there's it's kind of impossible, 350 00:20:32,916 --> 00:20:36,756 Speaker 1: but maybe it's but anything it's possible. But I can't 351 00:20:36,796 --> 00:20:42,756 Speaker 1: find being raped. Yeah, I tried. I try to tell 352 00:20:42,916 --> 00:20:45,596 Speaker 1: like I tried to tell myself when it happened to me, 353 00:20:45,716 --> 00:20:48,236 Speaker 1: Like I tried to tell myself what it means. That 354 00:20:48,276 --> 00:20:54,036 Speaker 1: means you're sexy, you're beautiful, you're irresistible. Girl, look at 355 00:20:54,116 --> 00:20:57,356 Speaker 1: shit Like That's not funny though, but that is how 356 00:20:57,476 --> 00:21:04,236 Speaker 1: I was able to process it. There's nothing I can't 357 00:21:04,316 --> 00:21:10,796 Speaker 1: find nothing about like I was robbed and there's no 358 00:21:11,316 --> 00:21:14,836 Speaker 1: redemption in it. There's no recovery of what was right, 359 00:21:14,996 --> 00:21:20,516 Speaker 1: Like you can never get that back. I would like 360 00:21:20,556 --> 00:21:22,196 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to make it funny so 361 00:21:22,236 --> 00:21:24,956 Speaker 1: people can heal from it. And I'm so grateful to 362 00:21:24,956 --> 00:21:27,916 Speaker 1: people that are willing to share their stories, because when 363 00:21:27,956 --> 00:21:31,916 Speaker 1: you share your experience in your story, you have no 364 00:21:31,996 --> 00:21:35,276 Speaker 1: idea who you are healing, who you are helping, who 365 00:21:35,396 --> 00:21:40,756 Speaker 1: you are uplifting. Another thing that struck me about your 366 00:21:41,756 --> 00:21:45,636 Speaker 1: life is that you've lived two starkly different lives in 367 00:21:45,716 --> 00:21:50,356 Speaker 1: one lifetime. Right. So as a child, you're neglected, you're undervalued, 368 00:21:50,876 --> 00:21:54,596 Speaker 1: and now you live in a world where even strangers 369 00:21:54,596 --> 00:21:57,076 Speaker 1: will run up to you and say, oh my god, Tiffany, 370 00:21:57,116 --> 00:21:58,716 Speaker 1: I love you so much. They want to hug you. 371 00:21:58,756 --> 00:22:02,876 Speaker 1: And like, what is it like to have lived both 372 00:22:02,916 --> 00:22:08,716 Speaker 1: of these lives within one lifetime? Yeah, but both lives 373 00:22:08,796 --> 00:22:13,196 Speaker 1: are the same in a fucked up way, like right, 374 00:22:13,236 --> 00:22:15,916 Speaker 1: Like so like here I am an adult and and 375 00:22:16,556 --> 00:22:18,316 Speaker 1: people are telling me they love me, which is what 376 00:22:18,396 --> 00:22:20,476 Speaker 1: I wanted as a kid. I wanted that love as 377 00:22:20,476 --> 00:22:25,676 Speaker 1: a child. Did I want the whole world's love? No? Right, 378 00:22:25,716 --> 00:22:30,076 Speaker 1: I wanted my father's love. I want my grandmother's love. 379 00:22:30,756 --> 00:22:36,236 Speaker 1: I want my mom's love. Is your mom better today? 380 00:22:36,956 --> 00:22:40,756 Speaker 1: So we um? Well, I got my money together, I 381 00:22:40,796 --> 00:22:43,436 Speaker 1: got her out of the mental institution. I got her 382 00:22:43,476 --> 00:22:49,036 Speaker 1: the best doctors, best therapist, psychiatric therapists, and like when 383 00:22:49,036 --> 00:22:53,676 Speaker 1: she comes to my house, the it's like the communication 384 00:22:53,836 --> 00:22:55,836 Speaker 1: is so much better. That first year that she was 385 00:22:55,876 --> 00:22:58,556 Speaker 1: out of the institution, it was a little shaky there 386 00:22:59,036 --> 00:23:01,756 Speaker 1: and there was a little bit of or I think 387 00:23:01,756 --> 00:23:05,196 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find my mom again going on, and what 388 00:23:05,316 --> 00:23:07,196 Speaker 1: you have to realize what I realized now, it is 389 00:23:07,236 --> 00:23:11,916 Speaker 1: an adult is when people are hurting. If they're hurt, 390 00:23:12,316 --> 00:23:16,316 Speaker 1: you can only give them. It doesn't matter if you 391 00:23:16,396 --> 00:23:22,476 Speaker 1: give them your whole soul. They have to heal on 392 00:23:22,516 --> 00:23:25,996 Speaker 1: their own and maybe just a little bit. The little 393 00:23:26,076 --> 00:23:29,236 Speaker 1: laugh that you give them is a little it's enough. 394 00:23:29,276 --> 00:23:32,116 Speaker 1: But they're going to continue to hurt others until they 395 00:23:32,156 --> 00:23:35,356 Speaker 1: stop hurting, and you can't always take that hurt away. 396 00:23:35,436 --> 00:23:39,716 Speaker 1: That's something they have to do. But it's been like 397 00:23:39,836 --> 00:23:45,036 Speaker 1: three years now, so much better. So it's just a 398 00:23:45,236 --> 00:23:48,356 Speaker 1: huge difference. And it's there's glimpses like I could see 399 00:23:48,396 --> 00:23:54,556 Speaker 1: glimpses of my mom pre accident. Wow, Mom, pre accident. 400 00:23:55,036 --> 00:23:58,876 Speaker 1: Do you feel like, um, getting those glimpses today changes 401 00:23:58,916 --> 00:24:01,076 Speaker 1: the way that you think back on your childhood, Like 402 00:24:02,316 --> 00:24:05,596 Speaker 1: does it make those memories pre nine years old feel 403 00:24:05,636 --> 00:24:09,796 Speaker 1: more salient to you? Well? Yeah, they're less like a 404 00:24:09,916 --> 00:24:13,756 Speaker 1: dream or like a fantasy and more like, oh, that 405 00:24:13,876 --> 00:24:15,956 Speaker 1: really did happen. And it's funny because I'll bring up 406 00:24:15,996 --> 00:24:19,556 Speaker 1: certain things and some stuff she remembers, because some stuff 407 00:24:19,596 --> 00:24:22,396 Speaker 1: I think is a dream and she's like, no, that that, 408 00:24:22,916 --> 00:24:28,196 Speaker 1: I think that happened too. I remember that. Yeah, you 409 00:24:28,236 --> 00:24:30,876 Speaker 1: have you gotten that hug? Even one time in the 410 00:24:30,956 --> 00:24:35,876 Speaker 1: last few years. I mean, we hug, we hug that hug. 411 00:24:36,316 --> 00:24:38,836 Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever get that hug from her again, 412 00:24:38,956 --> 00:24:42,236 Speaker 1: that that hug of gratitude, that hug of like, I'm 413 00:24:42,276 --> 00:24:46,476 Speaker 1: proud of you trying, that hug of your my baby, 414 00:24:46,676 --> 00:24:49,716 Speaker 1: that hug of like it she used to be saying it. 415 00:24:49,836 --> 00:24:53,276 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you try. Like these are the things 416 00:24:53,276 --> 00:24:56,556 Speaker 1: that play in my mind. You know, Um, that's not 417 00:24:56,676 --> 00:25:01,956 Speaker 1: a dream. You've willed so much remarkable stuff to happen 418 00:25:01,996 --> 00:25:05,916 Speaker 1: in your life, but you've been thrown so much shit, right, Um, 419 00:25:06,356 --> 00:25:09,356 Speaker 1: what would be your advice for people who are listening 420 00:25:09,396 --> 00:25:13,476 Speaker 1: who are just feeling totally overwhelmed by change? Okay, so 421 00:25:14,516 --> 00:25:20,476 Speaker 1: embrace it. Embrace the change. It is uncomfortable, but even 422 00:25:20,516 --> 00:25:23,276 Speaker 1: if you got to do it kicking and screaming, kick 423 00:25:23,356 --> 00:25:26,636 Speaker 1: and scream and embrace it and find the good in it. 424 00:25:27,236 --> 00:25:30,716 Speaker 1: Like you said, like, I've been throwing so much shit. Girl. 425 00:25:30,876 --> 00:25:32,916 Speaker 1: If I hadn't gone through all the stuff that I've 426 00:25:32,916 --> 00:25:35,116 Speaker 1: been through, I would not be funny at all. I 427 00:25:35,156 --> 00:25:39,316 Speaker 1: would just be a pretty face with a talent. Like 428 00:25:39,836 --> 00:25:42,116 Speaker 1: if you think about it, like everything that I am 429 00:25:42,156 --> 00:25:44,956 Speaker 1: capable of that how am I able to access it 430 00:25:44,996 --> 00:25:50,156 Speaker 1: comes from all of the tragedy. When I'm able to 431 00:25:50,676 --> 00:25:54,436 Speaker 1: talk to foster youth and connect with them and inspire 432 00:25:54,516 --> 00:25:57,476 Speaker 1: them to achieve their goals, and they start sending me 433 00:25:57,476 --> 00:26:01,316 Speaker 1: messages about there's education that they're getting or their business 434 00:26:01,356 --> 00:26:05,036 Speaker 1: that they're starting, or whatever that's I'm not able to 435 00:26:05,076 --> 00:26:07,956 Speaker 1: communicate with them the way that I am because you know, 436 00:26:08,036 --> 00:26:12,236 Speaker 1: life was easy, or because I don't understand hurt. Our 437 00:26:12,276 --> 00:26:15,716 Speaker 1: souls are able to connect. I'm tickling their spirit. I'm 438 00:26:15,756 --> 00:26:19,796 Speaker 1: inspiring them because their soul can hear my soul. The 439 00:26:19,916 --> 00:26:23,876 Speaker 1: heart speaks to the heart like we could be speaking 440 00:26:23,916 --> 00:26:27,756 Speaker 1: two completely different languages, and just by the tone of 441 00:26:27,796 --> 00:26:32,716 Speaker 1: the voice, the tone of it, you'll feel it. Like 442 00:26:32,796 --> 00:26:34,716 Speaker 1: you can't see me right now. I got my camera off, 443 00:26:35,636 --> 00:26:39,876 Speaker 1: but I know you're feeling me right now. I am. 444 00:26:39,956 --> 00:26:42,916 Speaker 1: I know you are, yeah, because I can feel you. 445 00:26:44,156 --> 00:26:47,996 Speaker 1: And when everybody hears us talk, they're gonna feel it too. 446 00:26:48,796 --> 00:26:51,276 Speaker 1: It's just wonderful to feel connected to people that you've 447 00:26:51,276 --> 00:26:53,516 Speaker 1: never even met before. Thank you for saying that. That's 448 00:26:53,516 --> 00:26:57,556 Speaker 1: just you just put the cheese on my face any day, 449 00:26:59,236 --> 00:27:01,676 Speaker 1: and I'm glad you got pretty teeth and that's my 450 00:27:01,756 --> 00:27:27,876 Speaker 1: favorite part, but your smile. Hey, thanks for listening. See 451 00:27:27,916 --> 00:27:30,716 Speaker 1: you next week for my conversation with Hillary Rodham Clinton. 452 00:27:31,396 --> 00:27:33,476 Speaker 1: We talk about how the public's been asking her to 453 00:27:33,596 --> 00:27:36,956 Speaker 1: change for decades and how she's handled that pressure. It 454 00:27:37,156 --> 00:27:40,756 Speaker 1: is a constant balancing act. It's everything from how you 455 00:27:40,876 --> 00:27:44,316 Speaker 1: dress and you know what your hairstyle is, to how 456 00:27:44,356 --> 00:27:47,676 Speaker 1: loudly you speak or how loudly you laugh, or you 457 00:27:47,716 --> 00:27:50,596 Speaker 1: know who you are seen with or I mean, it's 458 00:27:50,636 --> 00:28:04,236 Speaker 1: just a constant judgment. A Slight Change of Plans is 459 00:28:04,276 --> 00:28:08,196 Speaker 1: created an executive produced by me Maya Shankar Speak. Thanks 460 00:28:08,236 --> 00:28:12,196 Speaker 1: to everyone it pushed in industries, including our producer Mola Board, 461 00:28:12,516 --> 00:28:17,196 Speaker 1: associate producers David ja and Julia Goodman, executive producers Mia 462 00:28:17,276 --> 00:28:21,476 Speaker 1: Lavelle and Justine Lange, senior editor Jen Guera, and sound 463 00:28:21,556 --> 00:28:26,156 Speaker 1: design and mixed engineers Ben Holliday and Jason Gambrel. Thanks 464 00:28:26,196 --> 00:28:28,836 Speaker 1: also to Louise Gara who wrote our theme song, and 465 00:28:28,916 --> 00:28:32,636 Speaker 1: Ginger Smith who helped arrange the vocals, incidental music from 466 00:28:32,676 --> 00:28:36,516 Speaker 1: Epidemic Sound, and of course a very special thanks to 467 00:28:36,636 --> 00:28:39,596 Speaker 1: Jimmy Lee. You can follow A Slight Change of Plans 468 00:28:39,636 --> 00:28:52,676 Speaker 1: on Instagram. At doctor Maya Schenker. You know your life 469 00:28:52,676 --> 00:28:56,996 Speaker 1: has been filled with startling amounts of change. Do you 470 00:28:56,996 --> 00:28:59,676 Speaker 1: feel sometimes like, man, if I could get through that, 471 00:29:00,276 --> 00:29:10,356 Speaker 1: I mean I can get through anything. Motherfucking yeah.