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We are 24 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: going to start doing a little thing we call the 25 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: best of where we take stuff that happened throughout the 26 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 2: week put it on a podcast for a little weekend 27 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: listening this weekend. It'll include stuff like Mike Mayock breaking 28 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: down the draft, some of my thoughts on Ryan Poles, 29 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: why got to give the dude is Flowers? And my 30 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: initial thoughts when the trade happened between the Texans and 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: the Bills with Stefan Dix, which obviously was the big 32 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: news of the NFL week. 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And I would say JJ, obviously the 52 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: way he played for Jim Harball would have some parallels 53 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: the way Alex had a lot of success. The difference, 54 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: I would say is JJ has a better arm. So 55 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: if Alex would have had a better arm, I mean, 56 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: he was already a solid player, he might have even 57 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: been really even a better player. What are your thoughts 58 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: on JJ McCarthy, who clearly looks like he's gonna get 59 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: drafted really high. 60 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got an old you know, just like every 61 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: old scout. I've got I the only top quarterback I 62 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: haven't done is JJ McCarthy because I did a top 63 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: hundred overall and he wasn't on my list. This is 64 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: going back to last August. Okay, so I haven't done him. 65 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: I find it interesting that, for instance, if you're gonna 66 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: look at Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Drake May, I would 67 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: throw Michael Pennix in that group too. I did. 68 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 2: How about his how about his pro day the other day? 69 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: Four five five? It jumps thirty six inches, Mike look 70 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 2: for a pocket cornerback who he knows a great thrower 71 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: of the ball. He's an athlete. 72 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think I saw four or five five 73 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: on tape. But he is a big, strong, athletic kid 74 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: that can layer the ball at all three levels. He 75 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: took a beating against Oregon. He kept on ticking. Why 76 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: I like him is he wins in the pocket. He 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: can he can get outside the pocket, but he wins 78 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: in the pocket. He shuffles, he moves, he keeps his 79 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: eyes up, and some of his back shoulder stuff is 80 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: high level NFL. I mean, he just has a gifted 81 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: field back shoulder at all three levels. I don't think, 82 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: And maybe it's the medical but the kid's been healthy 83 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: for two straight years now, and you got you got 84 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: to listen to your doctors. But I don't understand why 85 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: he's not getting more traction out there as a high 86 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: level quarterback. 87 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 2: Well, Mike, how do you balance that? Because clearly his 88 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: tape speaks for itself. He was fantastic. He had several 89 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 2: season ending injuries, I think three, and you know he's 90 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: a little older. You're not a medical professional. So when 91 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: the trainer goes, well, he's fully healthy. He hasn't missed 92 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: a game in two years. You see him at the 93 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: Pro Day, he's running four or five five jumping. He's 94 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: clearly healthy right now, how do you balance that unquantifiable? Well, 95 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: when he was younger, he got the ship beat out 96 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: of him. He didn't make it through seasons. Now, what 97 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 2: if that's never a case, or what if it crops 98 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: in immediately? Well, that keeping up at night, because he's 99 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: clearly I like him. 100 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: You couched it well, And the conversation in the draft room. 101 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: We'd have our doctors and our trainers and John and 102 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: a couple of high level people in there, and I 103 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: would be saying what you just said. I'd be like, 104 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: wait a minute, four years in a row in Indiana. 105 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: He couldn't finish a season. Yet he transfers and starts 106 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: every game the last two and from my perspective, he 107 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: had two acls. He had a clavicle shoulder. You know though, 108 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: if you now, doctor, you tell me the other side 109 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: of it. I know he hadn't missed a game in 110 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,799 Speaker 1: two years. To me, that means he's clean. 111 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: Yeah right. 112 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: The only way to me you get this kid gets 113 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: minimized medically is if the doctor pounds the table in 114 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: your draft room and says, uh huh, you're You're not 115 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: even gonna get one contract out of this kid. He's 116 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: got a bad knee or a bad shoulder. If the 117 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: doctor doesn't say that, then this kid's got to be 118 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: given a clean bill of health, agree and and to 119 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: be I mean every year there are a couple of 120 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: kids that are tough. I mean the starting guard for 121 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: Kansas City from Tennessee Smith Smith, Yeah, Gray Smith. I mean, 122 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: he was a first or second round pick on every board, right, 123 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: and John and I both wanted them, and our doctors 124 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: told this point blank, no, he's got a heart issue. 125 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: That could be an awful situation if it turned the wrong. Way, 126 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: we can't take him. And meanwhile, you get into the 127 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: fifth or sixth round and Kansas City's taking him, and 128 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: you know he started every game since and you're pulling 129 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: your hair out. 130 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 2: So how do you balance Let's use him as an example. 131 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: Is he just a complete off the board or like 132 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: you get to a point like, what do we even care? 133 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: It's a fifth round. 134 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, if it wasn't a heart, I think what you 135 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: just said would be true. Like, Okay, we get to 136 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: the sixth round, then let's take a flyer on a 137 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: kid that could be a pro Bowl player. I think 138 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: our doctors, and I'm being respectful here, I think our 139 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: doctors at that point were saying, wait a minute, if 140 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: if this thing went wrong in the wrong direction, we 141 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: could have something awful, and I don't think we want 142 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: to put that kid at risk for that. So we're 143 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: in the fifth or sixth round and John and I 144 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: both want this kid, but they're telling us no. 145 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: You've watched every top quarterback on film over the last 146 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: two and a half decades. Caleb's been a well discussed 147 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: player for years. Now, what's what are your just thoughts 148 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: on the overall prospect? 149 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? 150 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: And where would you rank him with some of the 151 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: top guys over the years. You know the Staffords, the 152 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: lux the Trevor Lawrence is just the no brainer number 153 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: one guys. 154 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's a good question. Here's what I 155 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: tell you I think about him. He's my number one 156 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: guy this year. I wish I'd seen him personally up close, 157 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: because I have not been in the same room or 158 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: the same building with him, and I don't like it 159 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: when I don't see quarterbacks throw the ball live. I'm 160 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: doing everything off tape now. But having said all those things, 161 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how thick his frame is top but 162 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: he's got a strong, older body. You can see that 163 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: on tape. He runs through a lot of tackles. He's 164 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: strong in the pocket. What I love about him is 165 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: I do forget all the fancy stuff, all the off 166 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: balance throws, off platform throws, his escapes, his scrambles. You 167 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: gotta win inside the pocket to be a franchise quarterback 168 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and this kid wins in the pocket. 169 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: He's got his eyes stay up, he's got a natural feel. 170 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: He took a beating this year, way more than he 171 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: did in twenty two. And did he make some throws 172 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: he probably wants to have back, Yeah, but he was 173 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: trying to win football games. He was taking more chances, 174 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: he was getting sacked more, and you can knock him 175 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: on all those things. I see a competitor that can 176 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: make every throw at every level. He's stronger than you 177 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: would think he is, and I think he's a high level, 178 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: potential franchise quarterback. 179 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: What about the next couple guys, because I you know, 180 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: it's kind of up in the air. Who's going to 181 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 2: be the number two pick? How would you rank Drake 182 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: May and Jaden and Daniels? 183 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: The jade and Daniels thing? You know, how John, when 184 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: you're watching tape and you're not really sure what to expect, 185 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: and you put the tape in, you go out, and 186 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: the more you watch, the more you're going, Holy crack, 187 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: this is really fun. That's how I was with Jadeen Daniels. 188 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: The more I watched from his legs perspective, it reminded 189 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: me of Lamar Jackson when he came out like he 190 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: was as fast as he needed to be. He was 191 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: not only running away from linebackers, he's running away from 192 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: corners and safeties that have angles on him. You can't 193 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: just make a decision that you're going to draft a 194 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: guy because of his legs, but his accuracy on the 195 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: deep ball. He had fifty five starts. I'm a little 196 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: worried about his upper body frame, But again, I think 197 00:10:55,240 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: Daniels is really talented. Drake May had twenty six stars. 198 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, John, You got to go back, 199 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: if you haven't already, take a look at North Carolina State. 200 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: They're getting beat up in the second half. And one 201 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: of my frustrations with him is that I felt like 202 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: he was overly protective of the football at times, not 203 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: throwing with anticipation, not throwing guys open, trusting his legs 204 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: when things broke down instead of waiting to see if 205 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: that second or third progression works. They get down like 206 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: sixteen or eighteen against nci State offensive plays, I want 207 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: to say, like thirty three to forty eight or fifty 208 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: there's a collection of plays in there where he does 209 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: all the things I just talked about him not doing. 210 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: He throws guys open, he throws with anticipation, he runs 211 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: when he has to, He takes a couple shots in 212 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: the pocket, gets up and makes another play. And the 213 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: only reason he was doing it is because they were 214 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: behind and he had to try to find ways to 215 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: make a play. And if you can do it in 216 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: those situations, I believe you can do it beyond that. 217 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: So I like Drake May. I think I like Jaydon 218 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: Daniel a little bit more. I like Michael Pennix in 219 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: that conversation, and then you know, you talked about McCarthy 220 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: a couple of guys that you know, people talking about 221 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: bone Nicks as a first round pick, and I didn't 222 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: see that. I don't feel like his physical traits match 223 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: up with those other guys. And two guys that I 224 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: think we don't hear enough about are Spencer Ratler and 225 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: Michael Pratt from Tulane. Like I would put those two 226 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 1: guys with bon Nicks, to be honest with you. 227 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 2: Safe to say second day guys. I mean second second 228 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: round guys. Excuse me for me. 229 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: Rattler and Pratt would be second day guys. And I 230 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: think Rattler's talent is second round all day long. I mean, 231 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: if you put the Georgia tape on, you know, and 232 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: they're leading or tied at whatever it was at halftime, 233 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean it's all him. He was getting the crap 234 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 1: beat out of him with a bad offensive line by 235 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: University of Georgia, and he just kept making plays. Now 236 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: in the second half, he got the crap beat out 237 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: of him and so did they, but he just kept 238 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: trying to make plays. I think he's got arm talent. 239 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: I think he's athletic. I think he can escape pressure. 240 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: I like Rattler and Michael pratt Is. I would he's 241 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: not quite as electric, but I think he throws with 242 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: anticipation and timing, and he'll be a quality backup if 243 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: not get a chance to start somewhere. 244 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: I'm with you on the Jay and Daniels. I threw 245 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 2: on the moleak neighbors cut up and you just it's 246 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: hard not to watch the quarterback. I mean rows the accuracy, 247 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: but you know about the athleticism, I would say a 248 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 2: lot like Lamar. Lamar got very I mean he's lucky 249 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 2: in the sense that he got to go to the Ravens, 250 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: a high level operation with a high level coach and 251 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: good defense. I mean who you are as a quarterback, 252 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 2: especially a dual thright quarterback, And same thing with Drake 253 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: may right. I mean I think some comps are a 254 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: little bit like Josh Allen. I think Josh Moore physically 255 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 2: gifted but in the sense needs a lot of work. 256 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 2: But there's a lot there to work with. But I'd 257 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 2: say Jocks is somewhat of an outlier of a guy 258 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: that maximized all those things. Whenever you draft a guy 259 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 2: at that position specifically that just you're just not quite sure. 260 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 2: It's isn't that pretty risky proposition? Because the one knock 261 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: on jayde is he's thin. I know he weighed into 262 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 2: two ten. Most people think he weighs one hundred and 263 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 2: ninety five pounds, probably right, but he has done it 264 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: at the highest level against the best competition in the SEC. 265 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: I turned on that NC State game. I remember in 266 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: the middle of the year, all this hype and you're 267 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 2: watching that middle stretch of the season, you're like, what 268 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: is what am I missing here? And you know, but 269 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: clearly because when people talk about him, some of the 270 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 2: first things they say, why six four, two thirty, right, 271 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: And that's the first thing you say about him, that's 272 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 2: you know what about you know it's accurate his anticipation. 273 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 2: So it's it's a it's a polarizing girl. I don't 274 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: want to keep you all day. But obviously the wide 275 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: receiver class is pretty good. And I think I'm from 276 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 2: northern California, the Sacramento area, so NAP is right up 277 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: the road to go from Napa High School to Georgia 278 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: and on a team with seven hundred NFL players, most 279 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: of whom they got drafted really high, and immediately be 280 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: one of their best players. I think brock Powers is 281 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: one of the better college players I've seen in recent memory. 282 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: And at that level. You know, if the Chargers were 283 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: to get stuck at five, which is possible, right if 284 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 2: the four quarterbacks go, they're going to have their pick 285 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: of the litter. They don't need a left tackle, so 286 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: Alt technically, I'm sure he could probably play right tackle. 287 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: But the wide receiver were Bowers. I would put Bowers 288 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: right there with the wide receivers in terms of what 289 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: I've seen. What's your thoughts on on brock Powers. 290 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think more and more. My buddy Daniel Jeremiah 291 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: calls it kind of a positionless NFL right now, and 292 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: I agree with them, Like, I don't care what label 293 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: you put on wide out x y Z or tight 294 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: end y F whatever. I don't care about the label. 295 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: He's a playmaker, okay, and you're going to be creative 296 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: in ways you use them, just like San Francisco does 297 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: with their tight end out of Iowa Kittle. You know, 298 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: similar kind of size, body type to Bowers. Bowers is 299 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: a baller and whether it's making catches against corner safeties 300 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: and linebackers running away from people using his body. What 301 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: I like is he'll even line up in line and compete. 302 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: And I don't think he's going to make a living 303 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: in line in the NFL, but he'll compete. And that 304 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: just as a former scout, John, you and I, we're 305 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: looking for competitors, right, you know, we're looking for guys 306 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: to compete. Their ass is off, and that's what about. 307 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: He's a gifted dude in the past game, and he 308 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: will compete in the run game. Is he a top 309 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: ten pick? I think on paper talent wise, yes he is. 310 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: And I don't care whether what you call him. But 311 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: it's a little bit what you mentioned Lamar Jackson a 312 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: minute ago, and he said it's lucky Baltimore drafted them well. 313 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: To Baltimore's credit, they've created a whole offensive scheme around 314 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: what he does well. Sure, and that's what Greg Roman 315 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: was good at That's what you know, some of the 316 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: things they did to put Lamar in position to win, 317 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: And that's the same thing with Bowers. You gotta put 318 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: him in position to win. You gotta take advantage of 319 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 1: what he does really well, and that's winning the past game. 320 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:20,479 Speaker 1: And I think he's special. 321 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: Would you would you be comfortable taking him above the 322 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: other three wide outs if you were in a position, 323 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: if you you could take either. 324 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: I love neighbors, I love uh Marvin Harrison, A dunze 325 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: Is I have a done thing just a notch below 326 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: those two, and I think Bowers as a weapon to Yeah, 327 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: I think you could lump him in there. But but 328 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: again the caveat is if you're going to take a 329 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: guy at four or five or eight or even you know, 330 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: any if you're gonna take that tight end somewhere in 331 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: there or that wide out, you better find ways to 332 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 1: get him the football. You can't just draft him and 333 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: say go block the defensive end and bess protection. We're 334 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: not doing that. 335 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: I get you out of here on this. Most years 336 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: they're just you know, littered with defensive players, whether it's 337 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of corners, some pass rushers, Miles, Garrett, 338 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 2: nick Bosa, whoever. It doesn't really feel like that in 339 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: this draft. Who's a defensive player that you just go? 340 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,199 Speaker 2: I don't think we're talking about him as much. And 341 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: sometimes it's because the quarterbacks take up suck up so 342 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 2: much oxygen, but it illegitimately. I mean, there's a chance 343 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: the defensive player does not go in the top ten, 344 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: which would be kind of crazy, but it definitely is 345 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: on the table right now. 346 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: I think there's some edge rushers that are exciting, you know, 347 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: the Dallas Turner from Alabama, the kid from Penn State, 348 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: Chob Robinson. I think the lat Too kid a lot 349 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 1: too from UCLA. He's gifted, you know. I mean he's 350 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: a big, strong kid that can play on either side. 351 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: He can play with his hand down, he can stand up, 352 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: he can drop, He's an athletic kid. I like him 353 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: a lot. Verse from Florida State. I think any of 354 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: those guys are worthy of talking about. The linebacker from 355 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: what A and m is a Cooper boy is he 356 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: fund the watch on tape. And the two corners that 357 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,719 Speaker 1: I really like are Terry and Arnold from Alabama and 358 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: a kid that I don't think people are talking enough 359 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 1: about is a lasseter kid from Georgia. I mean I 360 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: think he was. He and Arnold were my two top 361 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: rated corners and I'm seeing a lot of second round 362 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: grades on him, and I just I think he's a 363 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: better player than that. 364 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: What do you think the keys are? One more question 365 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: at corner now, I mean, living at day to day 366 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: like you did, is that I've always thought the top 367 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: end speed, it's hard to be a slow corner. Obviously 368 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 2: you can get away with it a little bit in 369 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 2: certain type defenses, but still you're going to get put 370 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 2: in position. The level of talent at wide receiver in 371 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: the NFL right now has to be top of the A 372 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: lot have never been deeper. It's hard to kind of 373 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: hide when you're a high four five, low four six guy. 374 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 2: Is that a make or break number for you that 375 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 2: you need to I mean, have some speed at a 376 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 2: certain number cutoff or you're not touching. 377 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: I try not to get too heavy on the cutoff 378 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: on the numbers. I want to know what they ran. 379 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: More importantly, I think in today's world of back shoulder 380 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: throws is can can a corner find the ball with 381 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: his back to the quarterback? And the other thing is. 382 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: I think you've got to be cognizant of what your 383 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: defensive coaches are asking your corners to do. You know, 384 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: are you an are you a single high team playing 385 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: off and mostly zone concept, Cover one, Cover three? Or 386 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 1: are you going to be a pressed team or are 387 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: you going to do a little bit of both? And 388 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: I think once you answer all those questions and you 389 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: know what your defensive coaches are looking for you, the 390 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: fit is the most most important thing. I mean, I've 391 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: played with some corners that are four, five, five that 392 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: just have a great feel for the game and they 393 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 1: don't look for five to five. But but the number 394 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: the hardest thing to find I always thought is when 395 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: when the corner's back is turned. You're a press corner 396 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: and you're running with the receiver and it can either 397 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: be a go, a fade or a comeback back shoulder. 398 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: All the advantages go to the wide out in the quarterback, 399 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: can you find the football whether it's a deep throw 400 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: or on the back shoulder with it. And a lot 401 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: of these guys, no matter how gifted they are, they 402 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: can't find it. If you can't find it, ultimately you're 403 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: going to get exposed. 404 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I voice thought instincts are an attribute you can't quantify, 405 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: but in a lot of positions you either have it 406 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 2: or you don't. It separates the men from the boys, 407 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 2: you know at the highest level. Well, Mike, what time's 408 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 2: your tea time tomorrow? 409 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Uh? Probably nine am, Johnny kinda am. 410 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 2: Well, Well, enjoy I cannot thank you enough for doing this, 411 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: and you know, respect to hell out of you, and 412 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: enjoy this next couple of weeks leading up to the draft, 413 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: and have a great summer. I gotta do somewhat of 414 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: a one eighty because the first year I was really 415 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: hard on this guy, and I had heard really good things. 416 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 2: Obviously knowing the guys from Kansas City, everyone really liked 417 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: Ryan Pols just high level guy, had had a front 418 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: row seat and been a big part of everything the 419 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 2: Chiefs did in their personnel department. But people just really 420 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: liked them and kind of I always heard like humble, 421 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: kind of low key guy. And then his first introduction 422 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 2: as the Bears GM, he said something that I was like, 423 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god. He said basically, we're going to take 424 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 2: back the North. Then within his first year he's trading 425 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 2: for Chase Claypool. I think if he could he would 426 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: walk back the statement on the North and obviously the 427 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: trade of Chase Claypool. Now, I give anyone a little 428 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 2: bit of leeway early on a job. I don't care 429 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: what you do. You're gonna make mistakes, You're gonna have 430 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 2: things you would like to take back. And as a 431 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: GM in a very public job, we get to see 432 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: all those mistakes and warts in. There are things I'd 433 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: like to take back that no one will ever know. 434 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: Just like if you're listening, there are things when you 435 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: started a company, when you first started working for somebody, 436 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: when whatever you would when you first started dating someone, 437 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: maybe your first marriage, a bad breakup you would like 438 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: to change. You don't get to do that. But for 439 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: the most part it's not public. Ryan Polls, the last 440 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: I would say twelve to eighteen months, has been one 441 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: of the best gms in the league. And every time 442 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 2: I watch him talk, if you just watch him on McAfee. 443 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: I went and watched his interview with the local press 444 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: at the owners meetings. You go, this guy's really really impressive, 445 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: and this is the guy, the way he communicates, the 446 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,719 Speaker 2: way he carries himself is the guy that I had 447 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: heard about with the Chiefs and one thing he said 448 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: at the owners meetings, which I don't think a lot 449 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 2: of teams do, and I think a lot of times 450 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: in the NFL, scouts can feel like independent contractors. They're 451 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: just out on the road collecting all this information. They're 452 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: kind of part of the draft meetings, but ultimately they 453 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: feel kind of irrelevant. The coach, the GM are gonna 454 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: do whatever they want to do. Thanks for collecting the information. 455 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: We're paying you one hundred and fifty grand. Keep on working, man, 456 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 2: And you just feel like, and I know I used 457 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 2: to feel like this, what am I even doing? Like 458 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: what's the point of all this? And Ryan Pohle said 459 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: that when they get back, I don't know if their 460 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: draft meetings start this week or next week, they're gonna 461 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: split their scouting staff into teams and basically argue what 462 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 2: they should do with the ninth pick. Some people are 463 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 2: gonna argue for offensive lineman, some people are can argue 464 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: over wide receivers, some people are can argue over defensive players. 465 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: And obviously, trading back they have a limited number of 466 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 2: picks this year because of previous traits is an option. 467 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: But I do think empowering the people you work with 468 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 2: is very, very important, because to get the most out 469 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 2: of anybody, like money goes so far, whether I pay 470 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: you fifty grand, whether I pay a five million dollars. 471 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: If you don't feel like the work you're doing matters, 472 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 2: you're not going to get the best out of that individual. 473 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: And I don't think it's shocking that an offensive lineman, who, 474 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: let's face it, they're very team oriented. Harbaugh Jim did 475 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: at the owner's meetings when on this long kind of 476 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: diatribe of the importance of the offensive lineman, right, no 477 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 2: other position is dependent on everybody else quite like them, 478 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: and they get no credit. They really do. And if 479 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: they fuck up, we all see it and crush them. 480 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: But if they do well, no one really mentions them. 481 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, they should have. And I think typically 482 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: those guys meant one, they've always made good coaches. But two, 483 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 2: anyone who's ever met a college or an NFL offensive line, 484 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: they're typically pretty smart guys. They're pretty well rounded guys. 485 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: And I've always had the theory of they get yelled 486 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 2: at the most. They're constantly getting yelled at by their 487 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: coach more than I would say any other position offensive 488 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 2: and defensive lineman. But specifically offensive lineman, and they are 489 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 2: also tasked with the job of protecting the highest paid 490 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: guy in the most important guy in the quarterback. So 491 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 2: not shocking that Ryan Poles understands the importance of inclusion 492 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 2: with the staff. Now, I'm not saying this exercise of 493 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 2: including these guys is going to lead do a better 494 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 2: draft pick, but I do think it's very important. And 495 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 2: I think if you you never would because these guys 496 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 2: can't go on record, but just went around the NFL 497 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 2: and talk to individual scouts on individual teams, a lot 498 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: of them would say, yeah, I don't. I know my 499 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: job is important. They need me to do what I'm doing, 500 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: but sometimes I don't feel that important. And one thing specifically, 501 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 2: like position coaches in the NFL historic amount of money. 502 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 2: A wide receiver coach in the NFL makes six seven 503 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars, both coordinators making millions d line O 504 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: line coaches make seven figures. Tight end coaches, I mean 505 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: random coaches are making four or five hundred thousand dollars. 506 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: The pay scale for scouts is nowhere near that. I mean, 507 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: there are a ton of scouts all over the NFL, 508 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 2: especially the younger ones, making under one hundred thousand dollars. 509 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: Yet their job is to accumulate this information on first 510 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 2: and second and third round picks. But they're not compensated 511 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: like coaches, and it's a it's a huge thing that 512 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: scouts talk about a lot. Did they feel underpaid most industries. 513 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: I may not listen. Most of my friends do not 514 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: work at sports. I'm not exactly in the media crew 515 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: work in the private sector. I've been making a lot 516 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: of money for a long time because you start at 517 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: a much higher rate. In scouts. You don't make anything 518 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 2: to start with. And the same thing with coaches. But 519 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 2: even a quality control coach, the lowest guy on the 520 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:34,120 Speaker 2: total pole typically starts like eighty ninety thousand dollars. That's 521 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 2: not the case. So including people in your operation, to me, 522 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: always leads to a healthier building, a place where people 523 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: want to work. I stop watching The Dynasty. I just 524 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: think it's it kind of pisses me off the treatment 525 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: of Belichick. Now, they didn't really talk about this in 526 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: the documentary, but I know it's true because I know 527 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 2: a lot of people were. Belichick did not care what 528 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: any of scouts thought. That's why a lot of scouts 529 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 2: were pretty miserable there, didn't pay well, and he did 530 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: not give a crap what you thought. Now, there was 531 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: a benefit to working for the Patriots over a twenty 532 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 2: year span. You became a super Bowl champion, and when 533 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 2: you interviewed other places, I worked for Bill Belichick. I 534 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: was a part of Super Bowl teams. I kind of 535 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: have a piece of the secret. So I'm not talking coaches. 536 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: I'm talking scouts, and a lot of them have gone 537 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: on to other jobs and made a lot more money 538 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: because of it. But he was not very inclusive at all. 539 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: So props to Ryan Poles forgetting that part of it. 540 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: And I'm pretty excited to watch where the Bears are going. Okay, 541 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 2: we had some breaking news on Wednesday morning. Thing with 542 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: the NFL. I think this modern day last three or 543 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: four years, it has really upped its game in the 544 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 2: constant drama in the constant offseason, moves the personnel, guys, 545 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: high level players, flying team the team at all hours 546 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: of the night, at you know, before free agency, after 547 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: free agency, and through the draft. Let's face it as 548 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: really amped up, which is fantastic for us to talk 549 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: about football because the drama brewing with Diggs now has 550 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: been a couple of years. This is not out of 551 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: left field. This is not like I'm just gonna pick 552 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 2: a player. The Cowboys just traded Cede Lamb, Seattle traded 553 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: DK Metcalf. That would be didn't see that one coming. 554 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: This one not shocking because he's been on the trade 555 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 2: block before. Now I want to dive into the move. 556 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: I think two things can be true. One, this is 557 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: a blow for the Bills. I'm gonna reach you some stats. 558 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty, seven hundred and three hundred and 559 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 2: eight hundred and seven, eight, eleven, ten and eight. Those 560 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: were his catches and his touchdowns the last four years 561 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 2: on the Buffalo Bills. He has been a fantastic productive 562 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: player in a place. Let's face it, they've been playing 563 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: late into the season, not an easy place to play. 564 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: It's freezing cold. I mean the weather is a massive, 565 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 2: massive factor. And this guy's proven to be a high 566 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 2: level outdoor player, a high level big game player. I 567 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: know he dropped the ball in the playoff game against 568 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, but Digs has been fantastic. There's no way 569 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: around it. Even with the drama and drama has been 570 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 2: going on with star wide receivers for a long care time. 571 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: It's been going on with this player. Why do you 572 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 2: think Minnesota moved on for him? He was good for Minnesota. 573 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: I guess his last year was a little down, but 574 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: the year before he had one hundred two catches. Now, 575 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: they did one of the great win win trades in 576 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 2: recent memory. They traded him straight up essentially for Justin Jefferson. 577 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: It worked out for both parties. But this is I'm 578 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: not going to act like this isn't a blow to 579 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 2: the Bills. They just traded one of I don't know 580 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: their second or third best player. Many would argue their 581 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: second best player. But here's where I feel really, really 582 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: confident is every single person universally, whether you're a fan 583 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 2: of football, whether you talk about football. I'm not talking 584 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: about people in the league. I'm just talking about people 585 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 2: that us millions upon millions of people that are texted 586 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: with their buddies right now, people like me that talk 587 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: about football for a living. Not me, but most of 588 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: you will go all the Bills that they're in trouble. 589 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 2: They've cut half their roster. They just traded Digs down 590 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: year for the Bills, and listen, they might not be 591 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: as good as they've been But here's what I will 592 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 2: not do. I will not pick against the Bills to 593 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: win the AFC East. I just won't. Why because I 594 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: view them a little bit like an NBA team. When 595 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: you have Luca, when you have your honest, when you 596 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 2: have an elite player, and even if your team's a 597 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 2: little questionable, I'm not betting against you until you lose, 598 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: and when you lose, I'll tip my hat to the 599 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 2: other team. Why because unless they play Patrick Mahomes, they 600 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: have the best player on the field every single game, 601 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: who plays the most important position. He's the second best 602 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. I know Lamar Jackson has won 603 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: multiple MVPs. I'm sorry, Josh Allen is better. No shade 604 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: at Lamar. He's a third best quarterback. Ask the Chiefs. 605 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 2: I have Andy Reid, Steve Spagnola, the players who scares 606 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: them more, Who has given them more trouble in the 607 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: big games, It's Josh Allen. Now they are going to 608 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: have to figure this out on the fly. Look at 609 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: a team a couple of years ago that did that. 610 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill better player than Diggs, and they pivoted. Now 611 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: they had Travis Kelcey, who's a first ballot Hall of Famer. 612 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: But I also think your division matters. If you told 613 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: me the Bills played in the AFC North, I'd be like, 614 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if their roster is good enough. If 615 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: Burrow's healthy, obviously the Ravens, if the Steelers ever get 616 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 2: confident quarterback play, the Browns roster is still pretty good, 617 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 2: even though de Shaun Watson's a major question mark. He'd 618 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: be like, that's really hard. I think it's going to 619 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: be a struggle. They play in the AFC East. I'm sorry, 620 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 2: I think the Patriots are borderline laughing stock right now. 621 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: I really do. Starts with ownership. Robert Craft a legend 622 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 2: when he had Belichick, but everything that's transpired since I'm 623 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: short in that organization. In the short term, I just 624 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 2: am Their roster stinks. They have a first time head 625 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: coach who's only been coaching a couple of years, the 626 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 2: transition to taking over for a legend, and I know 627 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: the team's been down a little bit, but I'm sorry, 628 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: I think the Patriots are not going to be very good. 629 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 2: I think the Dolphins. To me, this is a blinking 630 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: kneon sign of like, hey, let's take a deep breath. 631 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 2: We're not going to extend to a if we can't 632 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: win the division this year with this guy. He's not 633 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 2: worth two hundred million dollars. We can't do it. We 634 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 2: know he's not as good as Josh Allen. We know 635 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 2: he's not as good as Patrick Mahomes. We know he's 636 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: not as good as Lamar Jackson, and he never will be. 637 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: It's impossible. He does not have the physical capability. You 638 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 2: could argue he's been solid, which he has. He's been 639 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: better than I thought he would be as a pro. 640 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 2: But I've seen him in the big games we saw 641 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: last year with it all on the line, and he 642 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: kind of crumbled like a cookie. There's no way around it. 643 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 2: So under no circumstances do I think as long as 644 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: you got Tua and they got Josh Allen, whether they 645 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: got me or they got you playing for them, am 646 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 2: I gonna take Tua over Josh Allen led team. It's 647 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Who has been consistently winning, who still 648 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 2: has a lot of guys who have played on these 649 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 2: teams the last couple of years. I'm not doing it. 650 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, it's not gonna happen. And the Jets, who 651 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 2: in theory, have a roster full of high priced former 652 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: pro bowlers, bright lights, high picks. All these guys have 653 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 2: long injury histories. The older players, I mean, the lynch 654 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 2: pin of the whole operation. The quarterback is forty years 655 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 2: old coming off an Achilles injury. Their coaching staff, we 656 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 2: have no clue if it's any good. And I'm talking 657 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: about their head coach. I know their offensive coordinator isn't good. 658 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: Now he could be masked if Rogers is an elite player, 659 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 2: but he hasn't been an elite player in a couple 660 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 2: of years. Even before the injury, it was kind of questionable. 661 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 2: And now he's coming off of major injury, even if 662 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 2: it's not as catastrophic as it once was ten, fifteen, 663 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 2: twenty thirty years ago. He's forty years old, and we 664 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 2: have recent examples of older guys not named Tom Brady 665 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 2: falling off a cliff. So I can't in good conscious 666 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 2: pick the Jets. I'm still picking the Bills to win 667 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 2: this division, even if they have a lot of question 668 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: marks with their Offenski guys, and they're clearly probably gonna 669 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: be in the mix to draft a wide receiver in 670 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,439 Speaker 2: the first round. Luckily, really good wide receiver class, really good. 671 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: So I think when you look at the overreaction from 672 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: the Bills, they're screwed. They're done well. They have a 673 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 2: team that's dominated the last four years in the regular season, 674 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 2: won this division four straight years, and like I said, 675 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: have the second best quarterback in the NFL, has a 676 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: guy in the playoffs who is fantastic, let alone just 677 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: big regular season games when everyone's gonna go left. I'm sorry, 678 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: I'm going right. You're gonna pick the Miami Dolphins and 679 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 2: Tua to win this They had it mapped out the 680 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 2: last two years and could not get it done, and 681 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 2: a large reason was his average played down the stretch. 682 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: He can't play outside, he cannot play in the cold weather. 683 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: The Chiefs, who played in one of the coldest games 684 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 2: of all time in that first round playoff game, when 685 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: they woke up that morning and saw the weather, they knew, 686 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: even if they didn't have a great game, the other 687 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: team had no shot. They didn't have a snowballs chance 688 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 2: in hell to beat them, and it played out that way. 689 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 2: So the Patriots, even if things go well, they're gonna 690 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: have a rookie quarterback. So I just I think the 691 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 2: overreaction of the Bills is gonna be predictable, but I'm 692 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 2: not buying it. I'm really not. And on the flip 693 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 2: side with the Houston Texans, this just shows you man 694 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 2: like David Cully and Lovey Smith kind of crawled through 695 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: the sewer and the shit like Andy dufrayin to get 696 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,240 Speaker 2: out for Damico and CJ. 697 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 3: Stritd. 698 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 2: And now they're in a position where they have a 699 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 2: quarterback who just had one of, if not the best 700 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 2: rookie season by some metrics he did, who clearly the 701 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 2: eye test, statistically, every metric just looks like a star. Now, 702 00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: part of being a star is doing it over and over, 703 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 2: so he's gonna have to prove that. Now everyone's gun 704 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 2: informed that he can do it. I don't see how 705 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 2: you would bet against it till proven otherwise. Demiko has 706 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 2: been a rocket ship since he was a player. Anyone 707 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 2: who spent any time around Demiko as a player knew 708 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: this guy was special. Not shocking that he's gone on 709 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 2: to be an elite position coach, one of the best 710 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 2: coordinators we've seen in recent memory, and then a star 711 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 2: head coach. And now they have a roster that's really 712 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: good and I've always said this about the Cowboys. Players 713 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 2: want to live in Texas. It has no state income text. 714 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 2: A lot of guys in the league are from southern states. 715 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 2: The problem the Cowboys, who are the brightest lights team. 716 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: I'm not saying the results. I'm just saying the brand, 717 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: the power, the money that comes with it. Never have 718 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 2: any free agency money, rarely do big things in free 719 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 2: agents because they're paying their own players a lot of money, 720 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 2: including the quarterback. Well, because a lot of the Texans' 721 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 2: better players are on rookie deals. What happened this offseason 722 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: they got really really aggressive, really aggressive, and the print 723 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 2: everyone's gonna pick them rightfully so to win this division 724 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 2: and if things come together, I don't think it's out 725 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 2: of their realm possibility that they could compete with the 726 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 2: Chiefs and the Ravens. So this is a team that 727 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 2: the trajectory is pointing right at the moon right now, 728 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: and the only question is how do you handle it? 729 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 2: Because last year they got they got to sneak up 730 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: on a lot of people, like the Lions a couple 731 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,440 Speaker 2: of years ago, even the Lions a little bit. This 732 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 2: year in twenty twenty four, no one's sleeping on those teams, 733 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: everybody is taking them seriously. You're getting every team's best shot. 734 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 2: And when you win your division, you get a harder 735 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: schedule than when you've been shitty. But this is why Caserio, 736 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 2: I mean last year when they moved up to get 737 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: Will Anderson, they get a guy who's a dog, I mean, 738 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 2: who's a bad ass. Might never be Miles Garrett or 739 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 2: Nick Bosa, but he's a guy that you can go 740 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 2: to war with. He's wired the right way. Same thing 741 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 2: with CJ. Stroud, same thing with Tank Dell. Now Diggs 742 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 2: is a little bit of a question mark in terms 743 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: of he can be a lot so but take you 744 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 2: have to take some of these flyers and Cassario, who 745 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 2: is with Bill for a long time. What did New 746 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,360 Speaker 2: England do? They built their core of guys high character, 747 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: never had to worry about all ball twenty four to seven, 748 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 2: no drama, and then occasionally they drop in a guy 749 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: and it would work, because what are you gonna do 750 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 2: either shape in or shape out? Now they got I 751 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 2: would say, relatively bold. They gave a second round pick 752 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five, which is equivalent of a third 753 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 2: round pick right this upcoming draft time value money right, 754 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 2: A pick later is not worth the same as a 755 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 2: pick now, and they basically traded a second round pick 756 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: for digs in a couple of late round picks. But 757 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 2: totally understand why they did it. To get a more 758 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 2: explosive offense, to go with some of their younger wide receivers, 759 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,239 Speaker 2: to go with their young quarterback, and because they have 760 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 2: the cat flexibility because their players are on rookie deals. 761 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 2: The power of a rookie deal is it just we 762 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: got rookie deals. It's when you get high level players 763 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 2: on rookie deals. I don't care if I have a 764 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 2: quarterback on a rookie deal if he stinks or he's average. 765 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 2: Having Mac Jones on a rookie deal, who cares? Not 766 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 2: any good? Canny Pickett, not any good right. The power 767 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: of Brock Purty, He's a top three or four quarterback 768 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 2: immediately in the NFC by some metrics, he was the best. 769 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,200 Speaker 2: That's the power and C J. Stroud immediately a top 770 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: three or four quarterback at the AFC second pick in 771 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 2: the draft makes seven eight million dollars instead of forty 772 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 2: forty five million dollars. It gives you a lot of 773 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: wiggle room and This is why you bet on the 774 00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 2: coaching staff, on the players that you draft. They are 775 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 2: just high level dues. So I'm telling you everyone is 776 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 2: gonna bury the Bills, not me. I'm just not doing it. 777 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,279 Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm gonna be right. But as long 778 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 2: as you got Josh Allen in that division, I'm picking 779 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: you to win it. I just till I'm proven wrong. 780 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: And the Texans, it's just you'd be a fool if 781 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: you're not excited as a football fan to watch the 782 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,720 Speaker 2: squad play. I mean, they have not only got more physical, 783 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,319 Speaker 2: but adding this explosive playmaker to the group that they 784 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 2: already had to that quarterback feels like sky's the limit. 785 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 2: The other thing that they have to go like their division. 786 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 2: They're going up against the Colts, who have a team 787 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 2: full of like just solid guys and a quarterback that 788 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 2: we know nothing about. 789 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: Now. 790 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 2: They brought in Flacco and we've seen Shane Snyken be 791 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 2: a really good, you know, head coach, last play caller, 792 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 2: So they're gonna be a problem if the quarterback is solid. 793 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,399 Speaker 2: The Jags have a lot of question marks. The main 794 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:00,839 Speaker 2: one is Trevor Lawrence any Good and the Titans who 795 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: splurge a lot in free agency. But let's face it, 796 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: their biggest question mark is the question mark that you 797 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,840 Speaker 2: want to avoid at all costs. Do they have a quarterback? 798 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: What's the deal? Can will Levis play? Because if will 799 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:20,160 Speaker 2: Levis can't play or is just average like a somewhere 800 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 2: between twenty and thirty two as a starting quarterback this year, 801 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: they have no shot, period, point blank, end of story. 802 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 2: They have no shot. I don't care how good Ridley is, 803 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: I don't care how good Tony Pollard is. I don't 804 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: care how awesome Lugarious Need is, who claims his knees 805 00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 2: just fine. So the Texans now the heavy favorite to 806 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 2: win that division again, and the Bills, I'm telling you 807 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 2: just bet against them all you want your boy right 808 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 2: here will not 809 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: The volume