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Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Calida Help.

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Speaker 2: Pip Pip En Cheery, Oh Bill's Mafia. We're coming to

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Speaker 2: you live from Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium in London, England, as

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills hosts the Jacksonville Jaguars in an a

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Speaker 2: FC Conference matchup here in week five. Lawrence in the shotgun,

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Speaker 2: looking to his left now to the middle of the field,

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Speaker 2: fires it to the end zone and it's caught for

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Speaker 2: a touchdown, say Jones on the touchdown reception. We'll see

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Speaker 2: if it stands.

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Speaker 3: Back to pass looking in the right corner of the

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Speaker 3: end zone, fires up bullet into Stefan Diggs complete for

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Speaker 3: the touchdown fifteen yards.

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Speaker 2: That was a laser.

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Speaker 3: Look into the right corner and he's hit by a

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Speaker 3: Panessa ball out and that Panessa has the football. Lawrence

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Speaker 3: hands it off Etn trying to get the edge, has

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Speaker 3: it and he's gonna coast into the end zone for

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Speaker 3: a six yard touchdown run. Alan's gonna have to scramble

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Speaker 3: now throws to the end zone and if that's not

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Speaker 3: pass interference, I don't know what is.

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Speaker 2: Davis catches it for the touchdown. Gave Davis on the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: Reception eats through the hole and through a tackle and

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Speaker 3: he might find the end zone, can't get tripped up

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Speaker 3: by Micah Hyde, and he's in for the touchdown. A

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Speaker 3: thirty yard touchdown run by Travis etn.

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Speaker 2: To put this game to bet, fake to.

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Speaker 3: Throw, Allen get a run for it, trying to pull

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Speaker 4: Did he get in?

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Speaker 5: Yes, he did.

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Speaker 3: A three yard bullish touchdown run by Josh.

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Speaker 2: Allen and back to pass, has time, fires to digs

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Speaker 2: at the twenty two he tried to lateral. The ball

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Speaker 2: is loose and the Jaguars hop on the football and

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Speaker 2: that should do it, and this ballgame is over with

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Speaker 2: thirteen seconds left. Jacksonville goes two to zero overseas here

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Speaker 2: in London to improve to three and two on the season.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo falls to three and two on the season. All right,

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Speaker 2: that is your Toshiba game. Rewind Oshiba, the official copier

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Speaker 2: company of the Buffalo Bills, as the much anticipated London

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Speaker 2: trip finishes with a thud and there is injury to

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Speaker 2: go along with the loss. Chris Brown Steve Tasker here

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Speaker 2: on a Buffalo Football Monday, and the Bills are quite

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Speaker 2: literally licking their wounds this morning. In the span of

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Speaker 2: two games, Buffalo has lost five starters from their lineup,

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Speaker 2: two potentially for the season at least. Those are the

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Speaker 2: early reports that NFL Networks ein Rapaport is putting out there.

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Speaker 2: On Matt Mulano's situation. There is an MRI schedule for

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Speaker 2: him today to confirm any ligament damage. There are reports

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Speaker 2: that he has a leg fracture. He left the stadium

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Speaker 2: in a mobilizer brace on a cart in the first

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Speaker 2: half as the Bills lost Daikwon Jones and Matt Mulano

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Speaker 2: on the same defensive series or possession by Jacksonville. I

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Speaker 2: should say Daikwon Jones with a pectoral injury declared out immediately,

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Speaker 2: Matt Mulona with the leg injury declared out immediately. Head

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Speaker 2: coach Sean McDermott after the game said both injuries do

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Speaker 2: not look good, but they didn't have full information on

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Speaker 2: everything at that point. We anticipate that when head coach

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Speaker 2: that there will be more clarity on those situations. But

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Speaker 2: you're already without Greg Russo, you've lost Tredavius White, for

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Speaker 2: the year. Christian Benford's out of the Benford is out

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Speaker 4: Shaq loss was out of the rotation.

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Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd's dragging his leg around at the end of

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Speaker 4: Lloyd was was hobbled throughout the most of the game.

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Speaker 4: Tarren Johnson went down for a hot minute.

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Speaker 4: It's, you know, cavalcade of a Yes, certainly every team

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Speaker 4: will go through stuff like this, but man, oman the Bills.

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Speaker 4: I went through it like this last year and for

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Speaker 4: you say, the same defensive series and on that same

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Speaker 4: Leonard Floyd hobbled off for a minute.

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Speaker 2: Uh so it was it was the same play Milanood.

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Speaker 4: It looked I don't know, I don't even have to explain.

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Speaker 4: It was shocking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it just went bang bang bang. So there you go,

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Speaker 4: and it's still all in all twenty five points given up.

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Speaker 4: Then you saw, you know, they gave up one explosive

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Speaker 2: I you know, defense was gassed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the defense was gassed. The offense slow start, no

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Speaker 4: question about it. Two three and ounce to start the game,

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Speaker 4: which is a really slow start for this offense. I

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Speaker 4: You get down one, two, five first down calls on

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Speaker 4: You can't even get through your full menu of calls

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Speaker 4: on first down before you eat you're at halftime because

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Speaker 4: you can't stand there, you can't get a first down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Bills came into the game with five three and

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Speaker 2: outs all season. They had two on their first two possessions. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And in the second two possessions were six and

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Speaker 4: this game, they still only give up twenty five points.

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Speaker 2: The defense was not the problem.

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Speaker 4: No, no, not at all. And the offense really struggled.

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Speaker 4: And I think the thing that was different about this

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Speaker 4: run the football well enough. And he got out And

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Speaker 4: I'll say this for whatever reason, first third down of

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Speaker 4: the game, drop pass. Second third down of the game,

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Speaker 2: Lame game. Drops a third down pass, He's you know

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Speaker 4: slow start had nothing to do with play calls. Maybe

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Speaker 4: extra point they got.

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Speaker 2: There at Loom Large at loom Large.

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Speaker 4: Then there was also some and you'll hear it on

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Speaker 4: so you kind of always hear it on social media

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Speaker 4: when you have a loss for the Bills. But I

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Speaker 4: thought the officials looked like they were jet lagged as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so all of that's going on. So it was you

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Speaker 4: anytime you get beat or even when you win, you

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Speaker 4: do that in this in this spot. But yeah, this

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Speaker 4: is a game like we've seen just about every other

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Speaker 4: single loss the Bills have suffered over the last three

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Speaker 4: regular seasons. You know, they just didn't look like they

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Speaker 4: a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That's a subject I do want to cover. We are

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Speaker 2: going to take your phone calls at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: to zero five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: want to know your takeaways from yesterday's game. I will

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Speaker 2: say this tip of the hat to Bill's mafia. They

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Speaker 2: showed up and showed out. They filled that stadium. It

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Speaker 2: was the largest London crowd for an NFL game since

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Speaker 2: of it, and it was majority Bills fans, and they

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Speaker 2: did a fantastic job out there. They really did so

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Speaker 2: glad to see the support. I think the players felt it.

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Speaker 2: You did make an impact on the game. When the

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Speaker 2: could not hear each other at all and it led

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Speaker 2: on you, Bills, Mavia. You did your job on Sunday

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Speaker 2: think I am. There are certain teams in the league, Steve, that,

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like the Bengals cannot beat the

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns, like you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: they struggle with that. They cannot beat that team, the Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that they didn't deserve to win.

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Speaker 2: unquestionably do, but for some reason, they seem to get

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Speaker 2: down defensively.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'll say this too. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't pick Jacksonville's front four guys. I couldn't pick

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Speaker 4: But those guys really played extremely well up front because

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Speaker 4: they you know, they just the Bills couldn't run the football.

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Speaker 4: The Bills are.

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Speaker 2: Then it was the first time in four weeks since

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Speaker 2: they played the Jets defense that they just flat out

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Speaker 2: lost the battle at the line of scrimmage yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's why they couldn't run the ball.

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Speaker 4: And all of that goes into the fact that you know,

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Speaker 4: you got to play better against a team like that.

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Speaker 4: And certainly you can't take anything from Jacksonville because they

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Speaker 4: showed up and they played well, and and they've got

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Speaker 2: Steve was there seemed to be, at least from what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought that had to be a game plan

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 4: But nevertheless, it seemed as though Josh sometimes was dropping

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Speaker 2: Is more than I would say in totality, Yes, yes, unquestionably, yes,

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how a right today?

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Speaker 8: After this, they were.

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Speaker 6: far as Dorsey goes, I could be wrong, but watching

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Speaker 2: So I did, I will say, Mark, I think they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, seventeen minute difference in time of possession. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: it didn't work, so we should have done something different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well okay, but.

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Speaker 4: They don't go into a game and even during a

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Speaker 4: but you got to do that. You can't. You don't

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Speaker 4: know that before the hand, and you prepare the way

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Speaker 2: You cannot say that about the two teams that played

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Speaker 4: Quote Now, I don't think it is, but the league

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: It was the team's call because the race science got

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Speaker 4: And so there you have it. Certainly, you know the

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Speaker 4: The Bills could have done that.

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Speaker 2: And he knows how they felt the first week they

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Speaker 4: Right, So all of that's in the mix, and you

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Speaker 4: know the Bill, You learn from it, you move on.

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Speaker 4: But that was it was. You can say what you

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Speaker 4: that's that's not You can't blame the league for that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're going to schedule games over there to

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Speaker 4: to play. You got to show up ready to play.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and we go to

438
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 2: Chuck in Hamburg. What do you got for us, Chuck.

439
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 8: Hy doing, Chris Steve, Steve, you still own me and

440
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 8: ice cream in our eastern area because I told you

441
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 8: on the whiteboard back in April, gave Davis when he

442
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 8: was healthy, would bawl.

443
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 5: Out this year.

444
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 8: Back in second the defense played like it was under

445
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 8: Leslie Fraser's terminology. They've bent but not break, but they

446
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 8: gave up way two mitts, time and yards on the ground.

447
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 8: And third, I can see why Kyer Elim hasn't been

448
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 8: in the starting lineup. He just needs to get more

449
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 8: confidence in himself. He's way too hesitant to jump jump

450
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 8: a pass. All Right, Chuck, I'll see you in East Arara,

451
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 8: Steve all.

452
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: Right, Cave Davis off to a good start, touchdowns in

453
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: three straight games and on Andre yards yesterday.

454
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Speaker 4: Without six starters on the field, Yeah, the def gonna

455
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: change a little bit. Yeah, And I'm not making excuses.

456
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 4: They got to play well, and they should. Those guys

457
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 4: got to step in, they gotta play. But it's gonna

458
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 4: look different with the different guys on the field.

459
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: You replaced an all Pro linebacker with a rookie.

460
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Speaker 9: Uh.

461
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: You replaced your best run stuffer with a guy that

462
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: usually plays three technique in Jordan Phillips. And you have

463
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: a corner that hasn't been on the game field in

464
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 2: the regular season all year, starting at outside corner. So

465
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: you could say what you want about Kyrie Elan, how

466
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,440
Speaker 2: about you not play for four games and then get

467
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: thrown onto a game field and have to have to

468
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 2: cover their number one receiver.

469
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Speaker 4: And philosophically, they're down their top two corners, Christian Benford

470
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 4: and Tredavious White on the outside. They're gone. Malone's gone,

471
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: Deakon Jones gone, Rousseau's gone. Rousseau's not in the game.

472
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 4: Shaq Laws is not in the game. You got Kendall

473
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,439
Speaker 4: Vickers taking snaps both defensive tackle and defensive end. At

474
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,240
Speaker 4: the end, you got to d Floyd walking around on

475
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 4: one leg.

476
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: You got Von Miller on a pitch count Von Hill's

477
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: klota and he's out of the game.

478
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 4: Out of the game. Yeah, so it Yeah, the defense

479
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: will look different there. It doesn't mean they're not they're

480
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 4: off the hook because they still only gave up twenty

481
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 4: five points.

482
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 2: They all I'm gonna say is this, If you want

483
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: to play in the defense in this game, I think

484
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 2: you're crazy.

485
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 4: That's that's a stretch.

486
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 2: I think you're crazy. That shorthanded they had it, it's

487
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. It's still a one score game

488
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: with a defense missing five starters. I mean, if you

489
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: want to put it on the defense, okay, but I'm

490
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 2: having a hard time with that. I mean, you're entitled

491
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: to your opinion. I just don't think that's I would

492
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: vehemently disagree with you. Let's go to Barber in Holland. Next,

493
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: what do you got barb Hi?

494
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 10: How you guys doing today?

495
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: We're all right, we're hanging in there.

496
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know me too. I just wanted to ask

497
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 10: you can we trade for the two men that were

498
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 10: I see now in the lineup kid Grandon being going

499
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 10: trade for. I did see on my Facebook there was

500
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 10: like five different linemen that were available. Can you tell

501
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 10: me that.

502
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: That are on other teams or do you mean free agents?

503
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 10: Bark No, free agents? And we could and in fact,

504
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 10: there was two of them that were on that list

505
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 10: on my Facebook that had been in camps this summer.

506
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Speaker 10: I believe.

507
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: Okay, well do you believe.

508
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 10: That might happen? That's what I'm asking.

509
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: Well, they have to, They'll have enough guy They'll have

510
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 4: to bring in guys to fill the spots of the

511
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 4: guys who are injured. Yes, Now for trading guys or

512
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 4: you know, going out and finding a player that will

513
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 4: come in and help or start I kind of highly

514
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 4: doubt that because you're not going to get anybody. Nobody's

515
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 4: going to trade a really good player to you unless

516
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 4: you overpay to get them. And if they do bring

517
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 4: them in, you've got to make salary cap room for them.

518
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 4: There's a lot of things in play there, and if

519
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: they're out there, it's because nobody wants them. So the

520
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 4: guys they have on their roster now are the guys

521
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 4: they wanted to keep because of what happened in training camp,

522
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: the ones that they feel can play the best. So

523
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 4: anybody that was in training camp who's not here is

524
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: not here for a reason. Now they may be next

525
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 4: in line because the Bills trust them and they'll take

526
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 4: less time to acclimate. But you're not gonna have you know,

527
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: you're not gonna be able to find a guy like

528
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 4: von Miller to come riding over the hill, or you're

529
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 4: not gonna play you know, Fred Warner coming over the

530
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 4: hill or somebody, you know, every.

531
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: Time of the year to find quality talent to supplement

532
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: your roster if you're hit with a rash of injuries.

533
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 2: And as Steve mentioned, the cap space issue is also something.

534
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 2: Bills only have about a little over three million dollars

535
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: in cap space. That's gonna get gobbled up quickly if

536
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: you bring in a player of any kind of repute.

537
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: So you kind of got a triage this situation here

538
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: for the next several weeks, depending on how serious. All

539
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: the injuries are like Greg Russell, for example, miss the

540
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: game this week. Is that a week to week injury

541
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: or a day to day injury. Now you have depth

542
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: there because you have Cameron Klein on the practice squad,

543
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 2: who I think is a pretty good player and had

544
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 2: a very good preseason, so I wouldn't feel too badly

545
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: about having him as an elevation. If you're still gonna

546
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: have Von Miller on a pitch count and Greg Russou's

547
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: not available and Leonard Floyds dinged up and Shaq we

548
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: don't know, so Cameron Klein could be a practice squad

549
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: elevation this week. Some people were asking why Kendall Vickers

550
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: was up and poon A Ford was down. They needed

551
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: Kendall Vickers to play on the edge because of all

552
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: the injuries. Shaq was down, Rousseau was down. Vickers can

553
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: play inside and outside. Poona Ford is strictly an inside player.

554
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: Now I would expect poon A Ford to be up

555
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: this week with you know, the day Kwon Jones injury,

556
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: so you're covered there, but it's it's it's you gotta

557
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: triage this situation and just try to get through this week.

558
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 2: Try to get through the next week and kind of

559
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: see where you stand as shorthanded as they are on

560
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball. We got to take

561
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: a break here. We're gonna get more of your phone

562
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: calls when we come back, So if you are on hold,

563
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: stay there. We will get to you because we do

564
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: want to hear from you here today, and we will

565
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: also have some other stuff here in segment number two.

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Speaker 2: What do we got a Player of the game? Yes,

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Speaker 2: this week's player the game will bring to you as

568
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: well when we come back here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned. This week's Player of the Game is presented

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Speaker 2: by Wegman's Meals to Go. Wegman's Meals to Go Delicious

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Speaker 2: Meals Delivered download their app today and it is one

572
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Speaker 2: a j Appanessa. Four tackles in the game, including one

573
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: for lost, two sacks including the trifecta Steve the sack

574
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: strip fumble that kept points off the board for the

575
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: Jaguar at the end of the first half, three batted passes,

576
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: and two quarterback hits. That guy really was a bright

577
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: spot yesterday.

578
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was, and he has been. He's had a

579
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: really good month of the first month of the season.

580
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: It's his best football as a pro, no question about it.

581
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 4: And yesterday was typified that batted passes go as passes defense.

582
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 4: But you can't underestimate how good it was. And you

583
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 4: know that the two sacks he got were money. That sack,

584
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 4: strip fumble could not have come at a better time

585
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: because they were coming. They were walking away with points

586
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 4: and that in a game where points were at a premium.

587
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 4: You needed him to do that at the time, at

588
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: that time. I mean, that was crucial. It took points

589
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 4: right off the board without question.

590
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: And going forward, they're going to need more of that

591
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: from him. With as shorthanded as they are in front,

592
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: he's going to have to lay that way. I said

593
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 2: it on the broadcast. I thought it was his best

594
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: game as a Buffalo Bill. Yeah, might have been his

595
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: the best game in a Bill's universe.

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00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 4: He's made great plays and he had to pick six

597
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 4: while back and he's done two weeks. Yeah, But overall

598
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 4: this he has been everywhere and made plays and they've

599
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 4: been timely. So credit to him for rising up like

600
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: he has.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones at eight oh three

602
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five

603
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: fifty we go to Jim and cheek towagan X. What

604
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: do you got Jim?

605
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 11: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, I appreciate it.

606
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 11: I got a couple of things I want to talk about.

607
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 11: Epanos played out of his mind yesterday. It's fantastic, and

608
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 11: a couple of other things. The officiating I thought was

609
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 11: ridiculous when they called that roughing.

610
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: Or personal foul on Poyer.

611
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm Poyer. Yeah, that was a joke.

612
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 11: Okay, So that automatically gave them another first down, which

613
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 11: they should not have had it. To me, it seemed

614
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 11: like the flags were just flying constantly and these officials

615
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 11: wanted to be on TV more than the players.

616
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: Unfortunately that Sean Smith Crewe is known for that they

618
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 2: throw a lot of flags on average, so I was

619
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: not surprised to see Buffalo with eleven penalties for one

620
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: hundred and nine yards by the end of the game.

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00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 2: I felt it was rather lopsided through the first half,

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00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: and then there were some a few more flags for

623
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: Jacksonville in the second half. For example, the Josh Allen

624
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: helmet contact on the sack on Josh that gave him

625
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 2: a free set of downs there at the end to

626
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: get in the end zone.

627
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 4: But here's the problem, Jims with those first downs by penalty.

628
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got four first downs by penalty. Here's the problem,

629
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: Jim with the Poyer play that you were referencing. Poyer,

630
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: to his credit, was trying to pull off of the hit.

631
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: But the reason he didn't slow down was because Ridley

632
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: was still trying to make a play on the ball

633
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: to make a catch even though it was deflected. So

634
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: there's no way for Poyer to know that he's got

635
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 2: to pull up there. And then when he realized the

636
00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: ball was out of his grasp, he tried to pull

637
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: up at the last millisecond, and he did. He didn't

638
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: make helmet to helmet contact. But here's the problem. The

639
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 2: league tells the officials we are protecting defenseless players like receivers.

640
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: So if their back is turned to the defender and

641
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: the defender makes any contact whatsoever to the head or

642
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: neck area, the flag is coming out. No matter whether

643
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: he tried to pull up pull off. If contact is

644
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: made with the helmet and the receiver is in a

645
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: defenseless position, it is a flag A thousand times out

646
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: of a thousand. I agree. I thought Poyer was trying

647
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: to pull off that hit, but he made contact with

648
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 2: the head and neck area. As soon as that happens, done, deal, Lucille.

649
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: They're throwing it every time. It's unfortunate, Yeah, but that's

650
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: kind of the way it goes now this day and

651
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: age in the NFL, and there's gonna be times where

652
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: players are coming so fast to make a play they

653
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: can't pull up in time. And Poyer was kind of

654
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: a victim of that. So it was kind of an

655
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: unfortunate circumstance. But I feel you on the amount of flags.

656
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: There was one play, Steve, there were four flags on

657
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: the field for the same play. Yeah, I mean and

658
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 2: in the past, hold on my favorite Steve offensive pass

659
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: interference on Stefan Diggs on the first touchdown catch by

660
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,240
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis, negating the touchdown. Did you watch the replay

661
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 2: of that. He touched no one, He ran across the field,

662
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: touched no one, right, they thought he offensive pass interference.

663
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: The officials thought they didn't see it, but they thought

664
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 4: he picked the defender that was coming with Gabe. It

665
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 4: wasn't even close to close. It wasn't even a rub route.

666
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 4: So yeah, and I'll say yeah, and I'll say this too.

667
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: And this is a nitpick that I have because it

668
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 4: used to bother me. I didn't think the officials could

669
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 4: spot it yesterday. I thought their spots were Yeah, there were,

670
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 4: there was some bad So we listen, we can complain

671
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: about those guys all the whatever. I do. Say this,

672
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: if you're trying to expand the game overseas, don't send

673
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 4: that crew. Don't send the ones that flag everything.

674
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: Because I'm just telling you right now, like they were

675
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: taking shots of the crowd in between plays when the

676
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: play was stopped because of these flags. And I saw

677
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 2: some fans on the stand on the jumbo tron screens.

678
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: They're going like, are we are we gonna play the

679
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 2: game or are we gonna watch these guys throw flags

680
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: around all day? I mean, that's how bogged down. The

681
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: game really did.

682
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 4: Get bogged down, and I who knows, there's a lot

683
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 4: in it. And Bills fans have been relegated to this

684
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 4: over the last three years because these the team rarely

685
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 4: loses badly. You can point to a couple at the

686
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: Indianapolis game the year after Indianapolis came back here. Indianapolis

687
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 4: comes back here the year after the Bills put them

688
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: out of the playoffs, and they had a chip on

689
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 4: their shoulder and that they kind of hung it on

690
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 4: the Bills there the Cincinnati game here last year when

691
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 4: the team was was a shell of what it was

692
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 4: at the beginning of the year. So any all the

693
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 4: most other losses they've taken have been like this, where

694
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: it's like like the game is like what we can't

695
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 4: you know, it's like hurky jerky stuff like that, and

696
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: it's a one point game or a one possession game

697
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: and the Bills come out on the wrong end of it.

698
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 4: This is what the losses have looked like this Jacksonville

699
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 4: have lost. Yeah, the six to nine game down in

700
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 4: Jacksonville three, that's same thing last year, the Jet game

701
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 4: in New Year it's a three point game. Miami Week

702
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 4: three last year, the Heat game, two point game. And

703
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 4: it's just is this kind of the this is the

704
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 4: way we have to digest these losses the Bills take.

705
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 4: They're a hard team to get up on. They and

706
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: you can't get away from them. But man oh man,

707
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: when they when stuff can particularly the injuries and the

708
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: penalties and whatever jet lag you want to call it, whatever,

709
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 4: it's just that kind of game. There's a. There's like

710
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: nine things you can point to that are like yeah,

711
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 4: and that's whim is for most teams.

712
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 2: Well, they all probably factored in. But nineteen total penalties assessed,

713
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 2: and they were about four or five that got declined. Yeah,

714
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean you're talking upwards off close to twenty five

715
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: penalties called by this crew.

716
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 4: It's it.

717
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 2: You're killing the game. I mean, you're turning it into

718
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: baseball before the pitch clack.

719
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 4: And I'll say this, it's like you said, I don't

720
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 4: mind if they call it if it's a penalty. But

721
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 4: the thing on the pass interference on Steph.

722
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: Diggs, the phantom flag, I mean you're flagging.

723
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 4: Nothing, and the spots the yeah yeah, the hands illegal hands.

724
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 4: And I'll say this too. The broadcast was deficient in

725
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 4: showing us replays of penalties us at home here. Once

726
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 4: I got through the Spanish dialogue that was over the

727
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: top of the broadcast, we didn't get any replays of

728
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: crucial penalties. Now, get granted, there's like nine thousand penalties,

729
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 4: got all of them, but we didn't get any of them. Wow,

730
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 4: we didn't get any of them. But the Steph Diggs

731
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 4: interference never saw it had Oliver hands in the face.

732
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: Never saw it, well I didn't. We didn't see that

733
00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: one either.

734
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 4: We saw that. We saw the Poyer replace, saw that,

735
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 4: you know, stuff like that. We never saw it. Never

736
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: saw that an off sides or you know, the the

737
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: guy never saw it, never saw the replace. So it

738
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 4: was a I was yeah, it was. It was hard.

739
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 4: I wanted to hack through my TV with a sword

740
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: because I couldn't. You know, it's it's not what I'm

741
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 4: it's not what we're used to here, not what we're

742
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 4: used to here. We're used to like, you know, show

743
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: that I want to see this. Yet thank you now

744
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: the other end, yeah, thank you? Oh yeah, yeah, I

745
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 4: didn't know you had to say, oh, this is great,

746
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: that's what we're used to show me what I want

747
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: to see, didn't have You need to know what I

748
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 4: want to see, and if you don't, you should be

749
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: in another business. You shouldn't be a producer on an

750
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 4: NFL broadcast. You should know what people want to see

751
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 4: and show it to them. We didn't get that yesterday.

752
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: In fact, the fact that I didn't speak Spanish was

753
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 4: a problem.

754
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: I didn't know.

755
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 4: Exactly.

756
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 2: So you do speak Spanish.

757
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 4: There you got a little bit so there you go.

758
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 4: I mean, I was it was rough. It was rough.

759
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 4: So that included plus you go out there and the

760
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 4: bills go one, two, three and out, one, two, three

761
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 4: and out, one, six and out and then four and out.

762
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 4: I mean, sat Martin, I was like, dude, I don't even.

763
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to see anything, right, Yeah, I didn't know.

764
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 4: I didn't want to look at you that much.

765
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: Seen him punts on twelve Possessions yesterday. Yeah, that was.

766
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 4: That was also a compounding factor to my disdain for

767
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 4: that game.

768
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 2: Back to the phones into Brian and Springville. Uh, Brian,

769
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 2: what do you got for us here? On One Bill's Live.

770
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 13: I just want to talk a little bit about Everybody

771
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 13: keeps talking about the disadvantages of flying over and the

772
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 13: jet lag and all that stuff, but to me, it

773
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 13: seems like a little bit of an excuse. Listening to

774
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 13: Eric Wood pregame, he mapped out a whole bunch of

775
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 13: things that are a disadvantage of staying there. Your world

776
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 13: class facilities. He said that when and they were over there,

777
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 13: and I think it was two fifteen, he said that

778
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 13: they were doing their game room, film, their workouts, and

779
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 13: a ballroom and a hotel, they're not staying in their beds.

780
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 13: They're now with their families. They're now with their kids.

781
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 13: The food's different, so there are a whole bunch of

782
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 13: disadvantage of staying there for two weeks as well. So

783
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 13: excuse wise, I think that's bad. Secondarily for me, I

784
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 13: don't understand why, and you guys know better than me,

785
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 13: but please explain to me. When the Bills were at

786
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,240
Speaker 13: our best two three years ago, we did nothing cold

787
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 13: Beasley down the middle, cold Beasley down the middle. We

788
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 13: used the middle of the field with our passing game,

789
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 13: and it feels like we've completely abandoned the middle. And again,

790
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 13: this is a concate thing, obviously, but we've completely abandoned

791
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 13: the middle of the field with our passing game.

792
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say this, Brian. It seemed to me,

793
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: just on the way the game played out, that the

794
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 2: Bills thought they had matchup advantages outside. So I would

795
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: tend to agree with you on that, And they did

796
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: not exploit the middle of the field with as much

797
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: frequent and see just based on where Josh went with

798
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: the ball, So I'm with you on that one. I

799
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 2: know people are anxious to see more playmaking ability from

800
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid. It's large. He's largely been a checkdown option

801
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: along with James Cook, which is why they are some

802
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: of the most targeted players in the passing game. After

803
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Stefan Diggs. They're two and three. I don't know if

804
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: that's still the case after Gabe's day yesterday, but we'll

805
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 2: check it out when we get the updated stats. Yeah,

806
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 2: I think you have to lean on Kincaid a little

807
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: bit more in the passing game, especially when you're having

808
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: trouble staying in what the Bills like to call the

809
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: green favorable down in distance. That's a guy that can

810
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: get you in the green, even if you don't want

811
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: to use him on bigger plays down the seam, like

812
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: we see Travis Kelcey run all the time for the Chiefs.

813
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: So the best thing that Cole Beasley did when he

814
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: was here was he would take second and ten and

815
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 2: make it third and three for you. You got to

816
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 2: use Kinkaid the same way, I believe to stay more effectively,

817
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 2: stay in favorable down in distance and keep drives going.

818
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 2: And they got behind the sticks a lot let yesterday

819
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 2: and did not utilize Kinkaid to help alleviate some of

820
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: that problem.

821
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 4: Well, I'll say this too, in conjunction with what Brownie

822
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 4: just said to me. And maybe it's because I was

823
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 4: grew up that way and started out in my career

824
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 4: in the NFL like that I was a player. You

825
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: put it on the players. I mean, you can say

826
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: you're not attacking the middle of the field. Well, yeah,

827
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 4: they'll run routes over the middle of the field, and

828
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 4: if they're not open, don't throw it. Or if you

829
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 4: don't want to throw those things, it's not because they're

830
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 4: not there, it's because you don't want to throw them.

831
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 4: As a quarterback or as a receiver, you're not getting

832
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 4: open and you're not getting there. Don't think the Bills

833
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 4: don't send guys over the middle. They do. And I'll

834
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: go back to it again. The first two series of

835
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 4: this game. The first third down, James Cook drops a pass.

836
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 4: Josh put a little too much on it. Could have

837
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: been a nice, little softer touch pass, but it was

838
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 4: right in his hands. He dropped it. That's the first

839
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 4: third down they blew. The second one, Josh Aden looks

840
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: down the field, doesn't see anything that's open, takes the

841
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 4: outlet to Dalton Kincaid, who's running a flat route, he

842
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 4: catches it, turns it up the field and gets run

843
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 4: out of bounds by one hundred and eighty five pound corner.

844
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 4: How do you not get a first down when you

845
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 4: turn it up the field. That's a player not that's

846
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: not a coaching call. You had the guy you completed

847
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 4: a pass, turn the guy, turn the ball up the field,

848
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: get the first down. That's why the plays designed like that.

849
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 4: The player doesn't do it. He doesn't. He doesn't take

850
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,439
Speaker 4: the guy on and work hard to get a first down.

851
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 4: He just pushed out of bounds. That's on the players.

852
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 4: Those are all on the players. Those aren't on the coaches.

853
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 4: You I get it. You can say, well, they're not

854
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: doing It's not they it's the players. It's not the coaches,

855
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: and they'll tell you that too. I could tell Dalton

856
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 4: Kincaid was ticked at himself after he looked at it and

857
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: they didn't where he saw where they spotted it. He

858
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: thought he got it.

859
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: He didn't.

860
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: And you can say that you fish whatever, you gotta

861
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 4: get it. That's the player.

862
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 2: You can't.

863
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: And they're not running. They're not running five guy. They're

864
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 4: getting five guys out in the routes and not running

865
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: anybody over the middle. There's guys going down the middle

866
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: and there's guys crossing the middle. Josh doesn't like what

867
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 4: he sees. He's not gonna throw it. If they don't

868
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 4: have separation, he's not gonna throw it. It's not like

869
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: he doesn't want to throw it. Now. Luckily the Bills

870
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 4: have got a guy in Josh. He can throw it

871
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 4: the outside the numbers, from the far hash. That's fine

872
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 4: with him. He can get it there. So you got

873
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 4: all that open open to you. Some teams can't do that,

874
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 4: but it's a players league, and you can say all

875
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 4: you want about they don't do this offensively. They're they're

876
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 4: not trying to do that. Listen, they run the play.

877
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 4: I don't care if it's a simple off tackle dive,

878
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: run it, and execute it. That's what you know they're not.

879
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 4: They're not running out there like with no plan. It's

880
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 4: people tend to blame coaches too much for what usually

881
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 4: is a player's execution problem. Now I know they're not

882
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 4: playing in a vacuum. Believe me, nobody knows better than me. Now,

883
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 4: I mean, they're planning as good guys, but they call plays.

884
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 4: Give you a chance, do.

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00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,960
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Speaker 2: good yesterday with aj Epines's day, Absolutely plenty of sacks

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Speaker 14: What do you got for his mic hey Ola Christy Oha.

906
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently you heard part of the Spanish broadcast as well.

907
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 12: Yeah, and I ended up turning into the NFL network

908
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 12: and watch the game, so and they wasn't that great either.

909
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 12: But wish I had a radio to listen to you, Chris.

910
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 14: I appreciate that, Mike, my Yeah.

911
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 12: Just a couple of things it's been talked about in

912
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 12: the last of your segment. The play of aj Epineza.

913
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 12: He was fantastic yesterday. I believe that since vond Miller's

914
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 12: been here, I believe that was his knowledge and totally

915
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 12: of the game. He has obviously listened to what he

916
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 12: said and he has taken it to the field.

917
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would I would tend to agree with some

918
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: of that. I know he's gone to his pass rush

919
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: Summit each of the last two or three seasons that

920
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: he has out in Las Vegas, so trying to soak

921
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,919
Speaker 2: up information not just from Von there, but from other

922
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: defensive ends in the league. We actually sent one of

923
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: our Buffalo Bills dot Com video team members down there

924
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 2: to film that and I saw he had a long

925
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 2: conversation with Max Crosby from The Raiders. They have similar

926
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 2: body types, so I found I found that to be

927
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: an interest. So he was picking brains of a lot

928
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 2: of guys that have been successful in the league, and

929
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 2: he's tried to incorporate some things into his game, and

930
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: you know, I think we're seeing the fruits of that.

931
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 2: So hopefully that continues, because, like we said earlier, Mike,

932
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna need it from him as shorthanded as they

933
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: are on the edge right now with injuries.

934
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 12: Yes, and one last thing, uh from a former player

935
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 12: of the player of Mark moss Up in Indy. Uh,

936
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 12: you think that he just didn't really get the shot

937
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 12: that he could have had the way he's doing the Indian.

938
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 12: Of course, I know Taylor is back now, so I

939
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 12: know he's gonna lose some playing time, but he's been

940
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 12: playing fantastic, been playing lights out.

941
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been playing really well.

942
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 12: And oh, go ahead and Steve, Hopefully that day will come.

943
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 12: And I hope I'm still alive. You'll be a Hall

944
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 12: of Famer. You deserve it.

945
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope both. I'll probably be dead

946
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 4: that the Zach Moss. Zach Moss is playing well in

947
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 4: Indy One is a different offense and they're giving him

948
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 4: a lot of opportunities.

949
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: And he's finally healthy, and he is healthy. He has

950
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: been battling injuries the last two years.

951
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 4: He he broke a leg somewhere in there.

952
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 2: Broke his ankle in the Indie playoff game here, and.

953
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 4: So he's, you know, ironically enough, right, so he's playing well.

954
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: It's not though he couldn't play, but in the in

955
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 4: the scheme of things, the way worked in Buffalo, you know,

956
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 4: he was at the end of the line. I'm talking about,

957
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 4: like stand in line to get on the field. It

958
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: was you know, it was Uh Singletary, Yeah, Devin Singletary,

959
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 4: it was James Cook and then it was Zack Moss.

960
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 4: And Zack early on he put it on the ground

961
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 4: a little too much. That was one of the things.

962
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 2: Also had trouble hitting the hole with the authority that

963
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: they wanted from him as an inside runner, and that's

964
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 2: why they changed him out and signed Damian Harris and

965
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: Latavius Murray. Just didn't work here, so they went with somebody.

966
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 4: Else, right, And so that's not to say that Zack

967
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 4: Moss wouldn't have done better with more opportunity here. But

968
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 4: the way it has tended to work here in Buffalo,

969
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 4: and this is not just for Zack Moss and all

970
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 4: these other guys. It's that when they they start to

971
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 4: trickle out opportunities a little by little to these guys

972
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 4: when they're young, and if they don't hit it out

973
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 4: of the park, they don't play. And I don't mean

974
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: just coming in and playing. Okay, they got to play

975
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 4: really well, otherwise they don't play. That's been that way

976
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: for Look at Kyrie Elam, same thing. Other guys the

977
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 4: same same you know, offensive lineman, whatever position you want

978
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 4: to get to. So Zach Moss struggled to stay healthy,

979
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: stumbled out of the gate with ball security and they

980
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 4: got buried on there and then got buried. But yeah,

981
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 4: it's not because he wouldn't couldn't play, so he got

982
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 4: off to hearts, you know, a staggering and stumbling start.

983
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 2: Break time here for us more of your phone calls

984
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: in our number two along with a trip around the

985
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: locker room. We'll get to all of that and your

986
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 2: phone calls next here on One Bill's Live, presented by

987
00:50:39,239 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 2: Collida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

988
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: This the One Bill's Live, presented by Calllida Health.

989
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: All right, our number two here on a Buffalo Football Monday,

990
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you on the heels of

991
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 2: the twenty five twenty loss at the hands of the Jaguars.

992
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna get right back to your phone calls here.

993
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: We'll go around the locker room in a little bit

994
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 2: as well. Eight oh three five eight five fifty two

995
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board. We lead

996
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: off with Mark and Jersey City next week.

997
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 15: Yeah for us, Mark, good afternoon, guys. Thanks for taking

998
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 15: my clause. It looks like, you know, the turf and

999
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 15: your view from the press box were kind of equally

1000
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 15: as bad.

1001
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I was rough.

1002
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 15: Yeah, they stashed you guys in the corner. And before

1003
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 15: I get to my point, yes, Steve, you know what

1004
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 15: they did show on the broadcast though the rules expert

1005
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 15: Jean Sterotaurs amateur hour index card moment, they managed to

1006
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 15: get that in that that I can't believe how bush

1007
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 15: league that was, as the refs just made an atrocity

1008
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 15: out of that game and on throwing flags on bang

1009
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 15: bang plays, I mean, the players can't play the game properly.

1010
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 15: Remember Mike Mitchell had a rant. You know, He's like,

1011
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 15: I'm gonna mess around and get hurt trying to protect

1012
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 15: an offensive player, trying to play this game in one

1013
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 15: hundred miles an hour, because it's it's it's just ridiculous.

1014
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 15: But anyway, that game still came down to it. Like

1015
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 15: three plays at Oliver, the two penalties back to back,

1016
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 15: those were five points. Those where five points. That there's

1017
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 15: the game. If that fumble that Ajpanessa goes a little

1018
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 15: bit more towards the sideline, I'm sorry, I don't know

1019
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 15: if you saw the same view, Chris. You probably did.

1020
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 15: Micha Heid's going to scoop and score that. He's he's

1021
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 15: going to run towards the end.

1022
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 4: I thought they had plenty of time to scoop it.

1023
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 4: Somebody was going to scoop it up. But Aj reached

1024
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: out and grabbed and stayed down.

1025
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: Well, he was already on the ground.

1026
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 4: If he pushed all the ball, If he bats it

1027
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 4: or tries to get it and it goes out forward,

1028
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 4: one of those guys gonna pick it up and go

1029
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 4: and there's nothing but fat guys around him, So they're

1030
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: gonna get a head start anyway, So yeah, I'm I'm

1031
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 4: totally with you on that as well.

1032
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 15: Yeah, and then if if Josh lays out the ball

1033
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 15: won on one of those two passes, he just I know,

1034
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 15: he said he got he had the reset and double

1035
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 15: clutch on the one. You know, if he lays out

1036
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 15: one of those balls in front of Diggs, there's the game.

1037
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 15: So everybody's having a titty attack today. Sorry for my language.

1038
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,840
Speaker 15: You know, everybody's citing, you know all Dalton, Kincaid, Laporta.

1039
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 15: Who are they not talking about those same team. They're

1040
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 15: not talking about Jack Campbell, which was everybody's darling. Why

1041
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 15: because Torell Bernard fans are always grasping and straws for

1042
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 15: why things aren't the way they are. Just watch the game.

1043
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 15: You saw it. It was just a couple of plays.

1044
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 15: It was trioge on defense. They still played an amazing game,

1045
00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 15: Yeah they did.

1046
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: They're a deep team. Uh, they played extremely well in

1047
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 4: tough conditions. I know the defense looked a little different,

1048
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 4: uh they and and and maybe because of the different

1049
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 4: faces that are on the field and that you had

1050
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 4: to play a little different. I think in that last

1051
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 4: Brownie and I were talking to that last explosive, the

1052
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 4: last third down conversion third and four, and they threw

1053
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 4: it over the top to Ridley and they had Micah

1054
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 4: on him, which is a bat. They got a late shift,

1055
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 4: They caught the Bills in the wrong in the wrong

1056
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 4: check the adjustment package that they were in, and they

1057
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 4: got a safety on Ridley that and that was credit

1058
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 4: to the Jaguars doing that. They waited until then to

1059
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 4: give it a shot. Plus the Bills had the right

1060
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 4: defense called, or I say the right defense. It was

1061
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 4: the wrong one for the Bills because they were going

1062
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: they were gonna go zero blitz, so they caught them

1063
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 4: and they had you know, Micah instead of being one

1064
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 4: of the blitzers and Elam being the guy out there.

1065
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 4: It was the reverse.

1066
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: So uh.

1067
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, all this, Yeah, they get caught. I mean, the

1068
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 4: Jaguars are an NFL football team and they can do

1069
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff, particularly with a good quarterback and

1070
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 4: an offensive head coach who used to play the position.

1071
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 4: So all of that stuff comes down to it. And

1072
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 4: the defense played really well. They only got caught, like

1073
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: I said, when they were kind of rolling the dice

1074
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: at the end. They give up the third down conversion

1075
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 4: and then they give up the explosive run to end

1076
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: the game when they were, you know, trying to go

1077
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: for broke kinda. So there you have it. The Bills

1078
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: offense came alive way too late, a four play, forty

1079
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 4: five second, seventy five yard drive that ended of the touchdown.

1080
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 4: And that's more proof, Brownie, what I've always told you,

1081
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 4: when a team lets off the gas, they're gonna get

1082
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 4: nick quick. And that's what happened to the Jaguars. They

1083
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 4: thought they had the game won.

1084
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: Well, I kind of thought they were trying to keep

1085
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 2: everything in front of them. They were playing more conservatively

1086
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: toward the end of the game, similar to the way

1087
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 2: you play at the end of a half. You don't

1088
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: want to get beat on one play for a touchdown

1089
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: and then Josh makes an off script play and fires

1090
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: a dark to Gabe Davis on the three yard line.

1091
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 2: I mean, that's an offense script play. That's not how

1092
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: your defense is choosing to line up. That's just a

1093
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: special player making a special play. But yeah, I thought

1094
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: they kind of backed off and didn't play as aggressively

1095
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: as they did earlier in the game because I think

1096
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 2: they felt being up two scores. You know what's on

1097
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 2: our side now is the clock. So let's try to

1098
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 2: give them if they want yardage, let's just keep them

1099
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: in front of us and try to keep them in

1100
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 2: bounds and let the clock run on them because the

1101
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 2: clock was their friend at that point in time. Let's

1102
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: go to Bob in Syracuse next. What do you got

1103
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 2: for us? Bob?

1104
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 7: Guys, First of all, just on that trip, definitely didn't

1105
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 7: feel like that was a home game. I don't feel

1106
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 7: like sports science can make up for a week of

1107
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 7: getting acclimated to a different time zone. But we see

1108
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 7: the Favors do this. They play back to back games.

1109
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 7: Sometimes they're getting off the planet two o'clock in the

1110
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 7: morning and the opponent didn't play the night before and

1111
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 7: they're just resting a hotel. So you you know, it's

1112
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 7: not an excuse. You got to find a way. But

1113
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 7: I really hope that the NFL decides put a team

1114
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 7: in London, that we do not end up in that division.

1115
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 7: That would be the busiest thing ever to end up

1116
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 7: in a London division. So I hope that doesn't change

1117
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 7: as far as the team identity going forward. With all

1118
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 7: the injuries that we have on the defensive side of

1119
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 7: the ball and guys you cannot replace, like Matt Malano.

1120
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 7: Do we think that the team identity maybe changes. This

1121
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 7: has been a team that's been very balanced and played

1122
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 7: complimentary football, one of the most balanced teams in the league.

1123
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 7: Do we become something more like Miami where we have

1124
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 7: a big defense and just a great offense, and maybe

1125
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 7: does that change some of how the play calling works

1126
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 7: When you cross midfield you're in ford Down territory, that

1127
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 7: kind of a mindset.

1128
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 2: That's a good question, Bob, you want to lead off

1129
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: on this team.

1130
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 4: Well, it's good it is. There's stuff we don't know.

1131
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 4: Who's going to be available and what the team's going

1132
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 4: to look like, what players are going to be as

1133
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 4: Christian Benford coming back and is going to come back

1134
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 4: completely healthy?

1135
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: If So have a week to week injury or a

1136
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: day is.

1137
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 4: Russo coming back? Is he going to be the same

1138
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 4: as Daikwan Jones going to be able to come back

1139
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 4: at any point? All of those things need to be answered,

1140
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 4: plus some others. Is to find out what the who

1141
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 4: the team's gonna be. And then once those team players

1142
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: come back and they start to play and everybody gets healthier,

1143
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 4: you know Vaughn coming back. Is he gonna come back

1144
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 4: and start to ascend and be what the guy we

1145
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 4: thought he was. All of that stuff needs to be answered.

1146
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 4: Plus then it's like the first month of the season again.

1147
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 4: The coaching staff and the players themselves need to find

1148
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 4: out who they are, what they can do now that

1149
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 4: they couldn't do then, and what they can't do now

1150
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 4: that they could do then. So it's all you're gonna

1151
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 4: have to find out for yourself. We have to watch together,

1152
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 4: because I don't think.

1153
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: The team would know. I think your your hypothesis of

1154
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: being more aggressive. I would tend to go along with that.

1155
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 2: When you're shorthanded, sometimes you have to pull out more

1156
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: stops to be aggressive and make the plays because you're

1157
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 2: trying to cover up for something that is deemed deficient

1158
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: by your coaching staff and in my eyes, in my eyes,

1159
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: I think you have to be even more aggressive from

1160
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: a pass rush perspective to help those guys on the

1161
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: back end because your top two corners are down right now,

1162
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: you don't have your your two starting corners are gone.

1163
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: Like hopefully Benford can come back sooner rather than later.

1164
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean he was inactive this week. Maybe he's healthy

1165
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: enough to be active this week. We'll have to wait

1166
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 2: and see.

1167
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 4: But the question is how effective can you be without

1168
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 4: those players that you lost, And whether you have to

1169
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 4: be more aggressive or not depends on what you can

1170
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 4: get done when you're not being aggressive. Yeah, you can

1171
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: say that, you know, you got to turn it up

1172
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 4: and go for broken. You may not have to do.

1173
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 4: This is a team that's got a lot of talent,

1174
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 4: but we'll see. That's the thing. You got to find

1175
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 4: that out right, and every team you're playing is going

1176
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 4: to be different. You'll be able to get more done

1177
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 4: against the Giants, then you're gonna get done against the

1178
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,640
Speaker 4: Chiefs or the Cowboys.

1179
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 2: Right and yeah, and to that point, sometimes you may

1180
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 2: be up in a game. You don't need to be aggressive.

1181
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: You're up two scores. So it's also recognition of time

1182
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 2: and score in determining how aggressive you do or do

1183
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 2: not need to be in a given game. But yeah,

1184
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 2: you're in a tight one and you need a play,

1185
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: and maybe your defense is struggling because they're shorthanded, and

1186
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: you're in a fourth and fourth situation in plus territory.

1187
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: Maybe you're going for it, you know, hoping you get

1188
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: the first down, so you can stay on the field longer,

1189
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: give your defense a break because they're struggling to keep

1190
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 2: up because you know they've got five backups in the game. Yes,

1191
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: that could happen going forward, but as Steve said, we'll

1192
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 2: have to wait and see because how games play out

1193
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: and who you're playing are big variables in that equation.

1194
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to Larry and Tanawanda next. What do you

1195
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: got for us? Larry, you're on one Bill's Live.

1196
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,479
Speaker 16: Good afternoon, gentlemen, Thank you for taking my call. Sure,

1197
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 16: I have a little suggestion regarding the jet lag. None

1198
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 16: of us one wants to use it as an excuse,

1199
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 16: but I was one if the NFL, instead of doing

1200
01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 16: what they're doing now, sent four teams over to England

1201
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 16: or Europe. I guess I should say those four teams

1202
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 16: pair off, they played two games, then they stayed. All

1203
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 16: fourteens stay for the next week, and they pair off again,

1204
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 16: switching opponents, and that way everyone has sort of an

1205
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 16: equal time frame there. So that's my suggestion for the NFL,

1206
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 16: And I figure if you guys like it and call

1207
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 16: the NFL, they'll implement it immediately. So thanks for hitting

1208
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 16: the call.

1209
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, for appreciate that. Larry, It's interesting that you

1210
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: mentioned that Eric Wood and I on the Bills Radio

1211
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: Network pregame broadcast had an opportunity to interview Commissioner Goodell

1212
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 2: prior to the Bills Week one game against the Jets

1213
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 2: because he was there at the game was kind enough

1214
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: to give us some time. He used the word division

1215
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 2: for Europe. I would not be surprised if ten years

1216
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: from now there is a not just a team in Europe,

1217
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: but a division of teams for the very reason that

1218
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: you just brought up. Because to bring teams over there

1219
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 2: with that amount of travel, particularly West Coast teams, I mean,

1220
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 2: that's that's four more hours than what we're doing here

1221
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,439
Speaker 2: on the East Coach. You're almost a ten hour flight.

1222
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 4: You're almost a half a day ahead in in Europe

1223
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: than you are in the West coast of the United States.

1224
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean you can you can see it

1225
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 4: if there were two teams in London, a team in

1226
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 4: Frankfurt and a team in what Paris or someplace, or

1227
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 4: two teams in Frankfurt or one in Berlin, one in

1228
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 4: frank Germany, blah blah blah. So yeah, you could see

1229
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 4: that where a team would go over there and play

1230
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 4: two road games over there, and then that those the

1231
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: other two teams would come back and play over here.

1232
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 4: But that now, think about what you're asking of those

1233
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 4: four teams in Europe. They'd have to play a full

1234
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 4: seventeen game schedule, most of it half of it over here.

1235
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's the other issue. Like the other problem

1236
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 2: is you're also if you add four team teams and

1237
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 2: do a division over there. Again, I don't see this

1238
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: for another ten years because you have got to improve

1239
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 2: your feeder system because offensive lines are horribly average right now.

1240
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: With thirty two teams, you add four more, quarterbacks are

1241
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 2: going to get killed and that's not a recipe for

1242
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 2: success in this league, as the NFL has already found out.

1243
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: That's why they changed all their rules to protect quarterbacks.

1244
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 2: But what I would do if I was the NFL,

1245
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: is this USFL XFL merger that is happening. You subsidize

1246
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 2: that league and help them survive as a spring league only,

1247
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 2: and you use them as a player development league to

1248
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: feed your league when you expand to thirty six teams.

1249
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 2: Presumably if you are in fact in a set up

1250
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: a division over there. Because Roger Goodell had an interview

1251
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 2: It's all over social media the last couple of days.

1252
01:03:54,680 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: He used the phrase teams in the UK plural and

1253
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 2: he said to me and Eric Wood, like live on

1254
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: the air division over there, an NFL division of teams

1255
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: over there. So again, I think it's way down the line.

1256
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: And I think they've got to have a player development

1257
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 2: feeder system league. And maybe that's the USFL merger thing.

1258
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, but there's a lot to be done

1259
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 2: before they get to that point. I mean, they're just

1260
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: starting with experimentation now, which is what this Jacksonville two

1261
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: weeks sojourn over there was.

1262
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 4: There's just yeah, there's just and and I've said this

1263
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 4: on the show before. I spoke with a high level

1264
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 4: executive years ago and I said, what about you know,

1265
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 4: sending having four teams in Europe or expanding again. You know,

1266
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 4: you've done it twice in my lifetime lifetime and he said,

1267
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,920
Speaker 4: he says, we're not going to do it. There's just

1268
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 4: not enough good players available with the product would go

1269
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 4: downhill exponentially when you take if there's two teams, you

1270
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,200
Speaker 4: got sixty four of the best players off of the

1271
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 4: other rosters around the league. And you start leaving holes

1272
01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 4: in rosters. Every roster's got some spots in it.

1273
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 9: Now.

1274
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 4: There are some who are stronger than others, you know,

1275
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 4: like the Bills. Up until these injuries. The Bills were strong,

1276
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 4: Philly's strong. San Francisco is strong, Dallas is strong, Miami's

1277
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 4: got a great offense. But you know that things start

1278
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 4: to get You start to find holes in teams pretty quickly,

1279
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 4: and those that would spread exponentially if you start plucking

1280
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 4: guys off those rosters.

1281
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: Quick little update concerning Buffalo's next opponent, the New York Giants.

1282
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 2: According to New York Daily News reporter Pat Leonard, who

1283
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 2: covers the Giants, Brian Dabele, does not have results of

1284
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones x raisor scans yet. He left yesterday's game

1285
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 2: against the Dolphins with a neck injury, but day Ball

1286
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 2: Says said in his press conference today he is quote

1287
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,919
Speaker 2: optimistic about Daniel Jones possibly playing against the Bills this week.

1288
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: If he cannot play, it would be Tyrod Taylor starting

1289
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 2: against his former team on Sunday night. But we're a

1290
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 2: long way from Sunday night, so we'll have to see

1291
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 2: how the week gress is and what the Wednesday injury

1292
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: report looks like for the Giants not to mention the

1293
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 2: Bills with their laundry list of injuries. But back to

1294
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 2: the phones and to Jager and Albany, what do you

1295
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: got for us?

1296
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 14: Hey, you guys? What going on?

1297
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 2: Not much?

1298
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 16: So one quick question about I completely agree with you, Steve.

1299
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 16: The broadcast was so bad. There was no replays, everything

1300
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 16: was missing. I missed football in America, yestually. This game

1301
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 16: just made me realize that even more. But one big

1302
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 16: question was that catch, the one that McDermott contested and

1303
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 16: challenge and they held, you know, the play on the field.

1304
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 16: If the Calvin Johnson catch wasn't a catch because he

1305
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 16: didn't make a move on the way to a ground,

1306
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 16: how was that a catch? And did you guys feel

1307
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 16: as though Mike Pereiro was trying to hint at while

1308
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 16: we've never seen that and we don't have a rule

1309
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 16: for that, or or was I looking too far into it? Yeah?

1310
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 4: I did?

1311
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, your thanks. I'll probably let Steve take that

1312
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: part of it because I was doing the broadcast, so

1313
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm not privty what they were saying on TV or

1314
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: what Perero was saying. But from what we were told

1315
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 2: the reason it was ruled to catch was because he

1316
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: caught the ball, his elbow struck the ground, thereby ending

1317
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 2: the play, and then Dorian Williams raked the ball out

1318
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 2: to pry it loose. So by their definition, the receiver

1319
01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: is down by contact as soon as his elbow hit

1320
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 2: the ground, and it was a reception, right, And what

1321
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: were they saying? What was Perira saying, like, there isn't

1322
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: a rule for that? What are you talking about?

1323
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 4: Well, I can't remember exactly, and I can go back

1324
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 4: and listen to the broadcast again, but I what happened

1325
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: was they called him down because I thought they gave

1326
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,240
Speaker 4: him possession because he was he hadn't put the ball away, right,

1327
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 4: But it was like one of those things where you

1328
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 4: catch on the sidelines, hold it up, yeah, and then

1329
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 4: he catches it, goes down, slides and the ball starts

1330
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 4: to move and then it gets raked out. But to

1331
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 4: rake it out you got to touch the guy. He's down,

1332
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: and it's a very it happens very fast. I didn't

1333
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 4: have a real problem with it.

1334
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 2: Once I saw the elbow, I knew how it was

1335
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: going to be.

1336
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 4: That was going to be called and that's all. That's

1337
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,439
Speaker 4: all you can ask for as a fan. It didn't

1338
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,919
Speaker 4: go the bill's way, but as long as it goes

1339
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 4: your way the next time that happens, I don't have

1340
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 4: a problem with it. You're right when you know, I

1341
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 4: don't know what catch he was talking about. What was

1342
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 4: he talking about, Kelvin Benjamin Ketch back in it New

1343
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 4: New England. No, No, he was talking about.

1344
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 2: I can't remember the reference that he just used. I can't.

1345
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: I can't either, but it wasn't Kelvin. That's the thing.

1346
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 4: If they get it consistent, I can live with it,

1347
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 4: and that seemed consistent to me. When he was down,

1348
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,839
Speaker 4: they gave him the catch and slid, he was sliding,

1349
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 4: and then they touched him as they were trying to

1350
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,880
Speaker 4: rake the ball out. He's down right there, so that's it.

1351
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 4: The play is over, and that it you have to

1352
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 4: call it. So yeah, it was. It's a very fast play.

1353
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 4: It happened really fast. But I was okay with it

1354
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 4: because it was consistent with what I understood to be

1355
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 4: the rules at the time. So I don't think they

1356
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 4: went outside of that. You know, there's times back in

1357
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 4: years past where.

1358
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 2: But it's one you can live with. You can understand

1359
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 2: how they rule that. And as soon as I all

1360
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: the elbows.

1361
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 4: Like okay, well that I can live with it because

1362
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 4: of the consistency of the call. That's all I can say.

1363
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 4: That it's stunk that it was you know, didn't come out,

1364
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 4: But I can live with that.

1365
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: So Chris in Brooklyn, next, what you got for us?

1366
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 17: Chris, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. First, there

1367
01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 17: was a Chris from Brooklyn who called about a week

1368
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 17: ago and suggested that Kyiri Elan should get some starts.

1369
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 17: I want to just say, I have no idea who

1370
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 17: that man is. Never listen to him ever.

1371
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: Again, he's putting a tough spot in fairness, you know,

1372
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: not playing for four weeks, and it's like, okay, we

1373
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 2: know you haven't played for a month. Here's Calvin you

1374
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,759
Speaker 2: know in the preseason, here's Calvin Ridley in the regular season.

1375
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 2: Get used to it fastco one hundred percent.

1376
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 17: I mean, I actually think the defense deserves some credit.

1377
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 17: I mean they were on the field with the entire game.

1378
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 17: The turf was bad, they're tired, so they actually played

1379
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 17: their hearts out and but a little bit of support

1380
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 17: from the offense, that game would have had a different outcome.

1381
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 17: The only the only question I have for you, guys.

1382
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 17: I just two quick questions. The first is, do you

1383
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 17: think the Bills should be on the market for a

1384
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 17: new dB and potentially some help at the linebacker position,

1385
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 17: And if so, who do you think the Bills should

1386
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 17: be interested in. And on the other on the offensive side,

1387
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 17: it seems to me like James Cook, the guy does

1388
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 17: not want to be hit and he's not going to

1389
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 17: explode through the line to get a lot of extra yard.

1390
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 17: So I'm not sure why the Bills keep trying to

1391
01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 17: run him up the middle as opposed to trying to

1392
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 17: run him to the side with and and hope that

1393
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,799
Speaker 17: his speed can get him around the edge and maybe upfield,

1394
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 17: and instead try to use like some of the bigger

1395
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 17: backs like Murray if they want to run up the middle.

1396
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 17: Those are only two questions. Appreciate you guys as always,

1397
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 17: and I'll hang up with the same.

1398
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, Chris.

1399
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. Yeah, I mean, they'll be in there.

1400
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 4: They're always in the market for better players. Hard time

1401
01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 4: a year to find a better player than the ones

1402
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 4: on your roster that have made your team. There might

1403
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 4: be some guys out on the street. You might trade

1404
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 4: for a veteran player who's not playing for another team.

1405
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 2: But there are reports that Denver is shopping Patrick Sirtan,

1406
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: who would be a fantastic corner to acquire, but he

1407
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 2: costs a lot of money. You'd have to have dollars

1408
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: out for dollars in. And I don't know if Denver

1409
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 2: is interested in a player, they might be interested in

1410
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 2: draft capital to try to rebuild something on that roster

1411
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,240
Speaker 2: because something is horribly wrong out there.

1412
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,000
Speaker 4: Now, Pat, you know, I could listen. We can take

1413
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 4: Pat Cirtan and be happy about it, Yeah, no question,

1414
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,640
Speaker 4: But you can't fit him under the cat.

1415
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: They got three point two in space. Like I said,

1416
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 2: you'd have to have dollars out for dollars in. That's

1417
01:11:30,439 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: that's the only way you're pulling that off. Yeah, which

1418
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: means trade another trade a player on your roster for

1419
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: a player on their roster. So yeah, I mean, it's

1420
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: it's a tough time of the year to need that

1421
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 2: much influx of players to make it happen. But I'm

1422
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 2: not saying it's impossible, but it's challenging at this time

1423
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:56,760
Speaker 2: of the year. That's the issue. I don't know if

1424
01:11:56,760 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 2: there's a. I'm looking up really quick what Certan's salary

1425
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 2: is because I was trying to remember if he's still

1426
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,800
Speaker 2: on his rookie contract, which he is. He's in his

1427
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 2: third year of his rookie contract, and his cap hit

1428
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 2: his five to seven, So you'd have to move two

1429
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 2: and a half million dollars out to fit him under.

1430
01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 2: And I think you'll be giving up a pretty high

1431
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: draft pick as well for a player of his caliber.

1432
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: I mean by people consider him the best corner in football.

1433
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that would Yeah, that's a guy that helps.

1434
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 4: But you you've got some real gymnastics to jump through

1435
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 4: to make that happen.

1436
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you could do an Elim for certain, if

1437
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 2: you want to, if they'd take it, well, if they do, yeah,

1438
01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 2: and well and some draft capital presumably.

1439
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,520
Speaker 4: Right, well yeah, but then you still got to cut somebody.

1440
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: Well no, well you'd have to see. The money doesn't

1441
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 2: even out with him and Elim because Elum is only

1442
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 2: a year two, he's in year three. Yeah, there's some

1443
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 2: juggling you'd have to do there for sure. But he

1444
01:12:57,360 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 2: is supposedly on the market and available, so see, you

1445
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: want to pursue that, you can want to lob a

1446
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:08,480
Speaker 2: phone call, go ahead, linebacker. Sure you can find linebackers

1447
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 2: out there. You have aj Klein on the practice squad.

1448
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 2: He's a veteran who knows the system, and you know

1449
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: you can use him in certain respects. But I think

1450
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: he's you know, I think we all know his limitations.

1451
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,400
Speaker 2: We've seen enough of him. I think they roll the dice.

1452
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: I would be inclined to go with Dorian Williams. Did

1453
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: he miss him tackles because he was flying around too fast? Yeah,

1454
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 2: I missed about three tackles, and I think that's one

1455
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 2: of the reasons Tyrrell doesn't went in and finished the game.

1456
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 2: But I think he could do a lot worse than

1457
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 2: Dorian Williams. I think he is athletic, maybe as athletic

1458
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: as Matt Malono, just maybe not as instinctive as as

1459
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 2: of yet because he doesn't have the same amount of experience.

1460
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: But I think Dorian Williams is somebody you can grow with,

1461
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: and I would I would give it a go again

1462
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: this week. I really would for him him and start

1463
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: him next to Bernard and see if he can grow

1464
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 2: each week and get better and better. And if he does,

1465
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: you may have something there that you can that you

1466
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 2: can win with. He's not gonna be Milano, but you

1467
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 2: got it. There's a reason why man Millana's an All

1468
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 2: Pro because a lot of people aren't.

1469
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 4: But and we've we said this a little bit, Terrell

1470
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 4: Bernard couldn't get on the field because I mean he

1471
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 4: was sitting behind Tremaine Edmonds. Terrell Bernard can play, but

1472
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 4: you didn't know.

1473
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't know. I really thought that Dorian Williams

1474
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 2: was an active player. As soon as he stepped into

1475
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 2: the game, you noticed him right away. He wasn't perfect,

1476
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 2: as I said. He over ran some plays, missed some tackles.

1477
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 4: But you don't overrun plays if you don't see him,

1478
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Right, So he's seeing it

1479
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 4: and he's getting there.

1480
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: And this team, this defensive staff, coaches don't hesitate. If

1481
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 2: you see it, go get it. And he did. He did.

1482
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 2: There was just a couple of times he didn't break

1483
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: down to make the actual tackle.

1484
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 4: Sometimes you get out there and you know particularly you know,

1485
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 4: you might take the wrong angle and stuff.

1486
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 2: But he's gonna be better for that. This week. You

1487
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 2: would think, where he's not gonna do that. So I

1488
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: would put him out there again and see if he's better. Yeah,

1489
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, and and hope he goes on the ascent

1490
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,560
Speaker 2: knowing there's a very strong likelihood he's gonna have to

1491
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: play a lot of snaps for you right at the

1492
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 2: weak side linebacker spot.

1493
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,800
Speaker 4: We'll see, we'll see, but who knows.

1494
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 2: Break time for us here more of your phone calls

1495
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 2: when we return, and we will get around the locker

1496
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 2: room here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right,

1497
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 2: We're gonna get back to your phone calls in a

1498
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 2: quick second here at eight oh three, oh five fifty.

1499
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: We do have an open line or two for you,

1500
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:54,760
Speaker 2: but if you're on hold, stay there. We got to

1501
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: take a quick trip around the locker room. Presented by

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Speaker 2: connect Life, your blood and organ donor network. We begin

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Speaker 2: with Stefan Diggs, who had a big day again over

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Speaker 2: one hundred yards and another touchdown, but he spoke to

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Speaker 2: the lack of urgency in Sunday's performance against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 18: I felt like on the sideline, I kind of felt

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Speaker 18: it a little bit, and I went on the I

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01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 18: went on the field and I was just, you know,

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Speaker 18: echoing sense of urgency to get out of the huddle.

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Speaker 18: Let's let's let's have that mindset. You know, we have

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Speaker 18: it in practice and you try to build off of

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Speaker 18: it in the game. I'm saying, it's supposed to be easier.

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Speaker 18: What I'm saying, you work hard in practice and you

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Speaker 18: it's the carryover. It's supposed to be all you gonna

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Speaker 18: have fun now. So I felt like, you know, we

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Speaker 18: did have a little I'm not gonna say lack of

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Speaker 18: days school, but we were kind of like just not

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01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,600
Speaker 18: as you know, let's go get it, let's get after it.

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Speaker 18: I'm saying, we were kind of trying to figure it out.

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Speaker 18: But that lack of sense of urgency, you know, it

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Speaker 18: showed what I'm saying. And then when we get in

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Speaker 18: that mode of not necessarily rushing, but more so like, okay,

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Speaker 18: we got a score. You saw that, So you know,

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Speaker 18: definitely something to learn from and a lot of things

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Speaker 18: to learn from.

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Speaker 2: All right. He's not wrong there, And coach mcgerm said

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Speaker 2: it too. We did not match their energy at the

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Speaker 2: start of the game. And coach McDermott here he is

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Speaker 2: addressing their slow start against the Jaguars on Sunday in London.

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Speaker 19: Start the game faster, number one. You know, I think

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Speaker 19: we started three and out, three and out, four and out, maybe.

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Speaker 4: Four punts in a row, I believe.

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Speaker 19: So we got to get started faster and just the overall,

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Speaker 19: you know, getting the ball back to the offense, offense,

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Speaker 19: sustaining a drive right. Penalties, you know, too many times

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Speaker 19: shooting ourselves in the foot, whether we're about to get

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Speaker 19: off the field or we're starting to get into rhythm offensively,

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Speaker 19: and then we have a penalty that's or a negative

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 19: play that sets us back. So just all in all,

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Speaker 19: not good enough.

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Speaker 2: He's not wrong in that assessment, and he at another

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Speaker 2: time he said we just did not match the Jaguars

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Speaker 2: energy at the start of the game. They had better

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01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 2: energy than we did at the beginning, which then led

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Speaker 2: to all the speculations about jet lag and travel and

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Speaker 2: all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you can, I mean, certainly you can make

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Speaker 4: the argument, but the bottom line is this. The Bills

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01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 4: had the opportunity to go over there early. They didn't,

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Speaker 4: and it's been a minute since they've been over there,

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Speaker 4: and you don't know how you're going to react to

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01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 4: it until you get over there. It's no question they'd

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01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:25,840
Speaker 4: probably do it differently if they had it to do

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Speaker 4: over again. But one of the It wasn't so much

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01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 4: the travel or the jet It was the travel, the

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01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 4: jet lag was the injuries, you know, but that's football,

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01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 4: you go. You got to play through stuff like that.

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01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 4: There's no excuses for that. There are reasons you lose games,

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01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 4: but when you start giving reasons because you think you

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01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,679
Speaker 4: have a better team than the other team. Jacksonville played

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01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 4: really well in that game. Give them some credit. Trevor

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Speaker 4: Lawrence is a good quarterback, Travis atn is a really

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Speaker 4: good running back, and Calvin Ridley is an elite wide receiver.

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Speaker 4: Those guys carried that team. They scored twenty five points.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't like they scored forty seven. Scored twenty, so

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Speaker 4: it gives you a chance. The Bills did not execute

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Speaker 4: well enough offensively to score. That's it. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: lose games like that. It was a five point game.

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Speaker 4: They had a chance to you know, get it. They

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Speaker 4: got it close. But you got to finish those games off,

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Speaker 4: and the Jaguars did. The Bills did not. Seasons not

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Speaker 4: over by a long shot. You got to regroup, no question.

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Speaker 4: You got to refurbish the roster with some fresh faces

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Speaker 4: because you got nobody else left standing. I don't think

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Speaker 4: this team's gonna fall off a cliff because of this loss.

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Speaker 4: Now they're gonna bounce back and play well, you know it.

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Speaker 4: They did it last year to the tune to thirteen

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Speaker 4: and three. They're gonna do it again this year. But

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Speaker 4: these last two weeks, the injuries have been you know,

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Speaker 4: for a team that significant right during the drought years,

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Speaker 4: if this happens, it's catastrophic. It'st It hurts now, but

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Speaker 4: not to the same extent as a team that wouldn't

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Speaker 4: be prepared for. This is a deep ross. Sure, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna win some games going forward, but man o, man h,

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Speaker 4: this was a bad these was a bad last two games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very bad last year injury stand for sure. Let's

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Speaker 2: finish around the locker room on a high note. Bill's

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01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: defensive n aj Epanessa on the success he had against

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence and what was a career day against the Jaguars.

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Speaker 20: We know how he wanted to escape the pocket, and

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Speaker 20: I put a lot of emphasis on that this week,

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Speaker 20: and so there were a couple of times where, you know,

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Speaker 20: it kind of felt like he knew where he was

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01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 20: going at times with his feet just because of the

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Speaker 20: tendencies find the past.

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Speaker 2: It's exciting.

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Speaker 20: You know, everyone wants to always have a great game

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Speaker 20: and do things, get a sack.

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Speaker 5: And do all that.

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Speaker 20: I'm just saying you, I could impact the game, help

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Speaker 20: my team. I mean, at least give us a chance

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Speaker 20: to win the game.

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Speaker 2: So that's aja addressing it. That's around the locker room,

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Speaker 2: presented by Connect Life, your Blood and organ Donor Network.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones and to Tim and

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Speaker 2: west senecon X what do you got for his Tim?

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Speaker 2: You're on one Bill's Live, Hi, Steve.

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Speaker 9: You know they they've been running on offense that I

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Speaker 9: really agree with Josh under center, protecting him as the

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Speaker 9: second level of defenders. When he comes from under center,

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Speaker 9: it has to take more time for them to recognize

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Speaker 9: whether it's a run or a pass versus the shotgun.

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Speaker 9: And they've been doing really well at that, and yesterday

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Speaker 9: they weren't very successful at that. And there's a time

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Speaker 9: the last three games unbelievable, but there's a time where

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Speaker 9: you have to let Josh put on a Superman cape

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Speaker 9: and a five point game, four rushes for fourteen yards.

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Speaker 9: Yesterday was the day for him to put on the

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Speaker 9: Superman Cape. And it didn't happen. And I don't know

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Speaker 9: if it's if it's the coaching staff that is kind

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Speaker 9: of telling him, hey, we're going to do this under center,

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Speaker 9: We're going to keep a conservative so on a so forth,

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Speaker 9: or if he just didn't make the decision on his

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Speaker 9: own to you know, take off, make some superstar plays,

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Speaker 9: hurdle a couple of players, and do his thing. Five points.

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Speaker 9: I think he could have, you know, made a difference

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Speaker 9: if he would have went off.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he did, no question, Tim, Yeah, And I it's

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Speaker 4: a good question. When when does Josh go into the

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Speaker 4: phone booth and take the suit off and become go

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Speaker 4: from Clark Kent into you know, superman. I get it.

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Speaker 4: I will say this, there are plenty of guys on

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Speaker 4: this roster who were in a spot that could have

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Speaker 4: made a difference. You got you got key penalties, key

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Speaker 4: drop passes, you got guys who didn't finish plays. The

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Speaker 4: defense played very well, particularly under the circumstances they were

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Speaker 4: put under, with the way that that game unfolded early

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Speaker 4: when they lost a couple of real key players and

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Speaker 4: they already walked in there with backups playing. So the

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Speaker 4: defense really picked their side of the of the game

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Speaker 4: up the offense did not, and I don't think he

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Speaker 4: lay that all at Josh's feet. The guy threw for

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Speaker 4: three fifty nine two touchdowns. I sooner or later, if

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Speaker 4: this team's gonna turn the corner and go the distance,

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Speaker 4: somebody other than Josh or Steph is gonna have to

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01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 4: step up and be a great player, at least for

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01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 4: a minute. Nobody's done that yet this year. They haven't

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01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 4: needed it because well three and two. But nobody's done

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Speaker 4: that this year, and they're gonna have to find somebody

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Speaker 4: who can step up. And we all think maybe a

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Speaker 4: Dalton kin k could do it, or may Hey, James

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Speaker 4: Cook could do it, or Gabe Davis is his time,

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Speaker 4: or Trent Sherfield or hard somebody. They need somebody to

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01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 4: step up and be one more way the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 4: can beat another team. As of yet, besides Steph and Josh,

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Speaker 4: we haven't seen it. The offensive line played really well

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Speaker 4: at for time, the running game was going good and

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Speaker 4: all that, and James Cook has had a couple of

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Speaker 4: nice games, but it's been in conjunction with everything else.

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Speaker 4: Nobody else has risen to the level of Josh and

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Speaker 4: Steph for any stretch of the imagination yet this year,

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Speaker 4: and I think they need to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I want to address what he said

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Speaker 2: about play action under center. You know, we had a

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Speaker 2: long conversation with ESPN's dan Orlowski, who will have on

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Speaker 2: the show again tomorrow when he makes his weekly appearance.

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Speaker 2: He thinks Josh could be the best quarterback in football

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Speaker 2: as a play action passer. They didn't do it. I

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Speaker 2: didn't feel like they did it as much as they

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Speaker 2: did the previous three weeks. And I think based on

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Speaker 2: these numbers that I just found that would be accurate.

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Speaker 2: Because I haven't gone play by play on the film yet,

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Speaker 2: I'll try to do that tomorrow. But so far this season,

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Speaker 2: the Bills have fifty one plays in which they have

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Speaker 2: used play action. That is sixteen percent of their total

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Speaker 2: plays on offense this season. That is a decrease of

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Speaker 2: seven percent from last week when they were at twenty

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Speaker 2: three almost twenty four percent of their plays in play action.

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Speaker 2: Now it's down to sixteen percent. So that number went

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Speaker 2: down with this game this past week. So my eyes

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Speaker 2: did not deceive me. Less play action this week. When

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Speaker 2: they did use it, it was effective and on the

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Speaker 2: season Josh Allen is thirty five of forty three passing.

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Speaker 2: That's eighty one point four percent completion. Thirty five of

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Speaker 2: forty three passing for five hundred and ninety one yards

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Speaker 2: and seven touchdowns, one sack. He also has two scrambles

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Speaker 2: for eight yards off play action, no interceptions. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this though as well. The lack of a

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Speaker 4: running game and the fact that they were in second

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Speaker 4: and long, third and long probably curtailed their ability or

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Speaker 4: confidence in going under center and running a fake dive

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Speaker 4: play action pass on second and you feel anybody's buying it,

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Speaker 4: well yeah, yeah, And plus the Jacksonville did a nice

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Speaker 4: job of getting pressure on Josh yesterday as well and

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01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 4: taking away his first read. He had to hang onto

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Speaker 4: the ball for a little bit too long yesterday, particularly

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Speaker 4: given the quality of the Jaguars pass rush, so that

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Speaker 4: probably went into the mix as well. I don't think

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Speaker 4: they deliberately took play action out of their game plan,

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Speaker 4: but I think they were so far behind the sticks,

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Speaker 4: not really far behind, but you know, second along and

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01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,439
Speaker 4: then third and long, it was often enough that it

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Speaker 4: took him out of what they liked to do, and

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Speaker 4: that play action they weren't in third and two very much,

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Speaker 4: a third and four to seven very much. And they

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Speaker 4: weren't certainly weren't very much in second and four very much,

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Speaker 4: so at least early in the game. So all of

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Speaker 4: that plays a part in what they feel comfortable doing

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Speaker 4: offensively when they get and Josh said it in his postgame,

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Speaker 4: they get in red situations where they're behind their schedule

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Speaker 4: on down a distance to get the first down, and

1712
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 4: it it affected their play calling and their ability to execute.

1713
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 2: Let's get back to the phones in just a second.

1714
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, we're up against the break. So Marcus and

1715
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 2: Charlotte don in Rochester will lead off with you when

1716
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 2: we get back here on one Bill's Live presented by

1717
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 2: Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bill's.

1718
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 4: Raiding, all right.

1719
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: Right back to the phone to some people waiting patiently.

1720
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:37,280
Speaker 2: First to Marcus and Charlotte. What do you got first? Marcus, Marcus,

1721
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: are you with us?

1722
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:38,720
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1723
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 12: I'm here. What's up? Chris, Steve?

1724
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:41,599
Speaker 2: How you doing?

1725
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 4: Good man?

1726
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 21: So my issue, I don't like to complain about the

1727
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 21: jet lag. I don't like to use that as an advantage.

1728
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 21: But one issue that I did notice is that the

1729
01:27:53,439 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 21: Jags both both these games in London were How is

1730
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 21: that fair that they were one over there to play

1731
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 21: a week before and then the next week there's still

1732
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 21: the away team but they got to stay and the

1733
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 21: other team got to travel, Yeah, and come to them,

1734
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 21: Like I think, if they're gonna be with them being

1735
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 21: over there as much as they are, why aren't they

1736
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 21: home games for them? Like when we had to play

1737
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 21: in Toronto and they were home games for us.

1738
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that. The home and away thing where

1739
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,360
Speaker 4: the home fountain like the Bills. It cost the Bills

1740
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 4: a home game here at home, right right? I get well, right, Yeah,

1741
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff when you start pulling games

1742
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 4: and going to neutral sites. I say neutral sites, whether

1743
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 4: you designate one teams the home team or the way team.

1744
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 2: It's in London.

1745
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 4: Nobody's in London except the teams we take over there,

1746
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 4: So I get that.

1747
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 2: I just for the record, Jacksonville is the home team

1748
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 2: last week.

1749
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 4: Right, so they gave up and they were in a

1750
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 4: different stadium too, so.

1751
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: That's their home stadium, Wembley.

1752
01:28:57,200 --> 01:29:00,160
Speaker 4: I get that. I mean, and anytime you start move

1753
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,080
Speaker 4: teams like that, you're going to run into this, particularly

1754
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 4: when it's a five hour time change.

1755
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 2: Right. And now, remember this is the year that AFC

1756
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 2: teams have the extra home game because it's a seventeen

1757
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 2: game season, nine at home, eight away.

1758
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,560
Speaker 4: Right, That's why we had two away games in the preseason.

1759
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 2: So they gave away one of the bills nine home

1760
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,280
Speaker 2: games to play in London, and by rule, you have

1761
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 2: to play overseas once every eight years. They waited as

1762
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 2: long on the Bills as they could. This is the

1763
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,360
Speaker 2: eighth year, so I look, I get the frustration with it.

1764
01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:35,519
Speaker 2: I think it was a if you want to argue

1765
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,759
Speaker 2: it was a more even playing field for the Falcons

1766
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 2: last week because they and the Jaguars traveled at the

1767
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 2: same time, got in England at the same time, got

1768
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 2: as much time to acclimate and played. I will listen

1769
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 2: to that. I think there is a difference there because

1770
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 2: it was not even in terms of Bills and Jaguars

1771
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,599
Speaker 2: and acclamation period. For sure. I will listen to that

1772
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,200
Speaker 2: and tell you if you want to say it was

1773
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:04,080
Speaker 2: a factor in the game, I would be inclined to

1774
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 2: agree with you. I don't think it was the ultimate factor,

1775
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 2: but I think it was a factor. To Don in Rochester. Next,

1776
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:11,200
Speaker 2: what do you got Don.

1777
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:13,400
Speaker 22: Yeah, how you do it?

1778
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 11: Guys?

1779
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 22: All right, good, I just want to get your opinion.

1780
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 22: It just seems to me like in certain instances when

1781
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 22: we're fourth and one, fourth and short, you know, you

1782
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:26,400
Speaker 22: watch you know, the Eagles performed the Brotherly Shove. You know,

1783
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,960
Speaker 22: we had to watch Tom Brady for years going, you know,

1784
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 22: for you know, with fourth and one and stuff like that.

1785
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 22: You know, we got a stud back there. He can

1786
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 22: get it every time. Just about it. I'm ninety percent

1787
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 22: sure that Josh could get it every time. And I

1788
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 22: don't know why we're not doing that moving forward.

1789
01:30:42,160 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 4: Well, the one time you don't get it, you're in

1790
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 4: your own thirty yard line, you give the other team

1791
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 4: three points at least, if not six or seven. So

1792
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 4: that's the only reason not to All right, I'm with you.

1793
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,599
Speaker 4: And for the most part, Sean McDermott does go for it.

1794
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,520
Speaker 4: But it's hard to make. It's hard to even with analytics.

1795
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 4: It's hard to your offenseive go out there and go

1796
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 4: for it on fourth and one when they haven't made

1797
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,719
Speaker 4: a first down in four series.

1798
01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:09,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's see. The thing is a lot of outside

1799
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 2: observers look at the fourth down situation and just say, well,

1800
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:17,559
Speaker 2: it's fourth and two, and the analytics across the league

1801
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 2: say on fourth and two teams get a fifty eight

1802
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 2: percent of the time. But you can't treat it in

1803
01:31:22,120 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 2: a vacuum. You can't treat that analytic metric number in

1804
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,720
Speaker 2: a vacuum. What if you're going against the number one

1805
01:31:29,800 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 2: defense and short yardage in the league, you have to

1806
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 2: factor that in. What if your offense is sputtering and

1807
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,320
Speaker 2: you've stunk in short yardage to that point and you're

1808
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 2: on your own half of the field, you'd be more

1809
01:31:40,600 --> 01:31:44,960
Speaker 2: reluctant to do it. So there are game situations and circumstance.

1810
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 2: How much time is left in the game, are you

1811
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 2: up on the scoreboard or down on the scoreboard? How

1812
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,320
Speaker 2: is your defense playing? These are all things that a

1813
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:55,880
Speaker 2: coach has to factor in in that moment, not just

1814
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,120
Speaker 2: what the metric says. And I think too many people

1815
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 2: lose sight of that and say, ah, should have gone

1816
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 2: for it.

1817
01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 1: There.

1818
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:05,200
Speaker 2: You know the metrics said this, but there are so

1819
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 2: many other variables that do not get incorporated into that metric,

1820
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 2: like all the things I just listed, and so people

1821
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,519
Speaker 2: can just arbitrarily say, ah, bad decision, should have gone

1822
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:21,760
Speaker 2: for it. There so it's not that simple. And look,

1823
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 2: are there coaches in this league that are too conservative? Yes?

1824
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,479
Speaker 2: Would I put coach McDermott in that category. No, I

1825
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 2: don't think he's the most aggressive, but he's certainly not

1826
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 2: the most conservative. I'm not.

1827
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,479
Speaker 4: I don't have a problem with Sean McDermott's when to

1828
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 4: go for it when not to because he goes for

1829
01:32:38,200 --> 01:32:40,599
Speaker 4: it a fair amount of the time. Yeah, he goes

1830
01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 4: for when I would go for it when it's fourth

1831
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 4: and one on your own twenty nine or your own

1832
01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:49,280
Speaker 4: twenty nine or thirty four yard line something like that. No,

1833
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:52,439
Speaker 4: you gotta pune it away and trust, particularly with when

1834
01:32:52,439 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: you've got a defense that has played really well. So

1835
01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 4: I'm it's particularly early in this game.

1836
01:32:58,680 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 2: People had an issue with the fourth and ten in

1837
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,519
Speaker 2: plus territory at the forty two. That's a sixty yard

1838
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 2: field goal or are you going for it? And they punted.

1839
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:11,599
Speaker 2: So they had a problem with the punt there, especially

1840
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 2: with the struggles they were having just to get over

1841
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 2: midfield offensively. I could understand it, but the chances of

1842
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 2: converting a fourth and ten are extremely low. If I'm

1843
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 2: doing anything there, I'm putting bass out there to kick

1844
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 2: a sixty yarder. That's the only thing I'm doing other

1845
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:26,840
Speaker 2: than punting.

1846
01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,599
Speaker 4: To get to that. To go for it on fourth

1847
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 4: and ten, you got to overcome what you've already said.

1848
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 4: You're struggling offensively, So now you're going to get it

1849
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 4: on fourth and ten. Yeah, you're going to convert that

1850
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:38,680
Speaker 4: after you It's tooth and nail just to get a

1851
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 4: first down on regular down and you can't even do it.

1852
01:33:41,360 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 4: Now you're going to go for it on fourth and ten.

1853
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 4: I have a problem with that. Fourth and ten are

1854
01:33:45,640 --> 01:33:48,759
Speaker 4: come on, now, sixty yard field goal.

1855
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 2: With that guy then maybe, yeah, that would be the

1856
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 2: one thing I might have thought.

1857
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 4: Particularly kicking it off the concrete. Yeah, you know, so

1858
01:33:55,400 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 4: I'm gonna sit up for it, right, Yeah, that maybe.

1859
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 4: But if you're gonna if that's on the table, me,

1860
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 4: you know, do the tush push and get instead of

1861
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 4: a sixty yard make it a fifty six yarder. Do

1862
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 4: a quarterback sneak. Well it's fourth down there, I know,

1863
01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:15,880
Speaker 4: on fourth and tent, right, So you got to fourth

1864
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 4: and ten somehow get some yardage, man, Yeah.

1865
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 2: Fourth and ten, no, come on, we have to step

1866
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: aside here. Our number three however, will begin with my

1867
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 2: broadcast partner Eric Wood. He is still back in Mario,

1868
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,599
Speaker 2: London waiting to catch a flight back to the States,

1869
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,799
Speaker 2: but he is going to join us when we return

1870
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,160
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's

1871
01:34:38,160 --> 01:36:00,520
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio.

1872
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Kalia Health.

1873
01:35:25,600 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 2: All right, here we are our number three and time

1874
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:32,440
Speaker 2: for our weekly visit with the world traveler currently residing

1875
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 2: in the Philadelphia Airport. He is already stateside. It is

1876
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 2: my broadcast partner and former Bill center Eric Wood, joining

1877
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,519
Speaker 2: us on the line for some of his thoughts about

1878
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 2: this week five game. That was a bitter pill to

1879
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 2: swallow yesterday, especially from an offensive perspective. But Eric, how

1880
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:52,600
Speaker 2: do you come out of this in terms of concern

1881
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 2: for the Bills going forward? Obviously the injuries are piling

1882
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,600
Speaker 2: up quickly, but the Bills still make a game of

1883
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:04,680
Speaker 2: this thing. Are you are you ringing alarm bells or

1884
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 2: are you more curious as to how the shorthanded nature

1885
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:10,200
Speaker 2: of this roster is going to be addressed? Should be

1886
01:36:10,280 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 2: fine going forward. Let's just let it play out and

1887
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:14,840
Speaker 2: see if they can triage the situation.

1888
01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean I'm definitely not ringing the bells the

1889
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 23: I'm not ringing the sirens at this point, but there

1890
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 23: is definitely some concern. The injuries even more concerning, necessarily

1891
01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,760
Speaker 23: than the losses yesterday. You know, yes, it's a conference game.

1892
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:31,560
Speaker 23: You don't want to drop those at any point in

1893
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 23: the season. But man, just with the amount of starters

1894
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:37,759
Speaker 23: that they've now lost in the defense side of the football,

1895
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 23: and two guys that I truly thought were playing the

1896
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,160
Speaker 23: best at their position in the entire NFL off ball

1897
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 23: linebacker Matt Milano and noseguard and Daikwon Jones. I mean,

1898
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 23: losing those two guys, the potentially season ending injuries is

1899
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,679
Speaker 23: just brutal for the defense that was already down two

1900
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 23: cornerbacks yesterday, starting defense Ben greg Rissau. You have Von

1901
01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,160
Speaker 23: Miller on a pitchcown coming off in ACL, so you

1902
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:03,599
Speaker 23: can't over extend. And so no, you still have Josh Allen,

1903
01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,800
Speaker 23: you still have so much star power, especially on the

1904
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:08,640
Speaker 23: offensive side of the football. And then the biggest thing

1905
01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 23: yesterday was you had all those injuries early in the

1906
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:15,480
Speaker 23: game and you just don't have that many guys, especially.

1907
01:37:15,240 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 24: Up front, and it just wore on those guys late

1908
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:18,599
Speaker 24: in the game.

1909
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:20,880
Speaker 23: And you know, when you look at how the game

1910
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 23: played out, those back to back three and outs to

1911
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:26,839
Speaker 23: start the game, when those injuries are happening on defense

1912
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 23: and you punt two more times in a row, what

1913
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,559
Speaker 23: that did to the stamina of that defense, especially that

1914
01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:35,840
Speaker 23: front four was really tough when you looked at the

1915
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 23: longevity of the football game.

1916
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, and is that game wore on still an amazing

1917
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 4: feat They really didn't give up that last touchdown until

1918
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 4: you know, they were like all out mode, going zero

1919
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 4: blitz on a couple of different plays, trying to stop

1920
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 4: them at the line of screams to get the ball

1921
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 4: back to Josh Allen. Then they give up the long touchdown,

1922
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:56,719
Speaker 4: and then the Bills go back forty five seconds, four plays,

1923
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,080
Speaker 4: seventy five yards touchdown. Now they're right back to a

1924
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 4: single digit I mean, this game it showed, it showed

1925
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 4: the worst part about what was going on with the Bills,

1926
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,400
Speaker 4: and then it showed the best part as well. And

1927
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:09,600
Speaker 4: it's and it's always like we've seen the I was

1928
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 4: reference in this with Brownie over the last two or

1929
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 4: three years. It's one of those losses by a single

1930
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 4: possession where you just feel like you ran out of

1931
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 4: time and you're looking at your you know, the team

1932
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 4: walks in looking at themselves, going, man, how did this

1933
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,880
Speaker 4: game get away from us? Even with all the you know,

1934
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,840
Speaker 4: the finger quotes, the excuses that we had, that was

1935
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 4: a game they needed to win.

1936
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 23: No, I agree, we could run through those and talk

1937
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 23: about those for the next fifteen minutes, but that's not

1938
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 23: that's probably what you guys have been doing for the

1939
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 23: last couple hours. Usually haven't tuned in for at least

1940
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 23: part of the show. This week, I truly was in

1941
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 23: the air, so I couldn't. But anyways, you know, when

1942
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 23: you talk about the travel and you talk about the

1943
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 23: penalties and the injuries, yes, those are all valid excuses,

1944
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 23: and they're valid reasons you lost the football game. But man,

1945
01:38:55,320 --> 01:38:58,560
Speaker 23: to me, you just start that slow offensively.

1946
01:38:59,000 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 9: It's just it.

1947
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 23: It's tough in this league to bounce back from those.

1948
01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 23: You have a couple turnovers in the game. The one

1949
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 23: was super late and the one was essentially an arm

1950
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 23: punt by Josh. Those aren't, you know, vital turnovers. But

1951
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 23: to me, moving forward, there are positives to take from

1952
01:39:13,360 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 23: this football game. The play from aj Apandessa has been

1953
01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:20,960
Speaker 23: outstanding lately. At Oliver played another great game. I thought

1954
01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 23: Bernard played another good game. You seem to have some death.

1955
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 23: I thought Dorian Williams and Dotson yesterday both shown showed

1956
01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:33,759
Speaker 23: some pretty good signs at that off ball linebacker position

1957
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,559
Speaker 23: if they're going to have to play an extended period

1958
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 23: of time this year. There was enough positives from the game.

1959
01:39:38,120 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 23: There's still that firepower on offense. And you know what

1960
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:44,360
Speaker 23: I'm thinking about, Okay, what can the Bills do differently

1961
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:48,719
Speaker 23: offensively to maybe start faster? Well, isn't this hasn't necessarily

1962
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:50,799
Speaker 23: been a week to week thing. Last week against Miami,

1963
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 23: you drive right down the field on the first two

1964
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,839
Speaker 23: possessions of the game and score back to back touchdown.

1965
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 23: So it's not like this is a trend. But yesterday

1966
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 23: it just seemed like, in an effort to be patient

1967
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 23: and conservative, when the first down's there, with Josh's legs,

1968
01:40:06,040 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 23: he's not necessarily taking it, and it's you know, that

1969
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,519
Speaker 23: short throw to Cook on the first one that just

1970
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 23: barely off the mark, and it's a three and out,

1971
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 23: and it's a check down to Kincaid and he's one

1972
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,800
Speaker 23: yard short on the second one, and it's a three

1973
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:21,679
Speaker 23: and out. It's like, man, when we start these games,

1974
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:23,839
Speaker 23: it's got to be like you went into the Miami

1975
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:25,679
Speaker 23: game knowing you're gonna have to put up a bunch

1976
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 23: of points, and so you started that game off pretty

1977
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 23: aggressively and game plan wise and attacking all aspects of

1978
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 23: the field. I'm not sure I saw that yesterday, and

1979
01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:38,439
Speaker 23: I'm not sure if that's intentionally from the game planning

1980
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:41,680
Speaker 23: or just simply what the Jaguars looks were dictating what

1981
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,560
Speaker 23: was available for the Bills offense. I don't want to

1982
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:45,880
Speaker 23: be hyper critical without watching the game film.

1983
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 2: I do know one area which you know you pay

1984
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 2: close attentionent to every week, Eric, the line of scrimmage

1985
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:55,720
Speaker 2: was a struggle yesterday on the offensive side of the ball.

1986
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 2: The two point one yards per carry average on the

1987
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:01,519
Speaker 2: on the run side speaks to that. What did you

1988
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:05,320
Speaker 2: see maybe as some of the chief issues up front?

1989
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,599
Speaker 2: Why because this is the first time since Week one

1990
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:10,639
Speaker 2: where they really got beat at the line of scrimmage yesterday.

1991
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:14,719
Speaker 23: Yeah, and well, the run game just wasn't there yesterday.

1992
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 23: There was penetration at times. Pretty talented front for the Jags,

1993
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 23: but there was penetration at times which affected the run game,

1994
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 23: and then when we've seen this Bill's run game take off,

1995
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 23: you know, really the last three weeks. A big reason

1996
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 23: for that is they were doing what the Jaguars did

1997
01:41:30,280 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 23: us yesterday. They wear down the other team's defense, they

1998
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,479
Speaker 23: keep them on the field, and then late in the

1999
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:36,960
Speaker 23: game you're getting those chunk runs. You're getting a majority

2000
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 23: of your rushing yards in the second half. Well, that

2001
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 23: was the blueprint to beat the Bills yesterday, and we

2002
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 23: saw etn late go over one hundred yards and break

2003
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 23: the one for a touchdown late because they had worn

2004
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 23: down the Bills defense. And so I'm not overly concerned

2005
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:54,760
Speaker 23: with the run game struggles yesterday. When you're down two

2006
01:41:54,760 --> 01:41:56,320
Speaker 23: scores in the second half, you're going to have to

2007
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 23: throw the ball consistently, and they put up a bunch

2008
01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 23: of yards there, but you never want to rush, you know.

2009
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 23: James Cook, the first player of the game, rushes for

2010
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 23: five yards and then he ends up on the entire

2011
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 23: day with five carries for minus four like that, that

2012
01:42:10,000 --> 01:42:12,559
Speaker 23: is alarming. But the fact that they really couldn't lean

2013
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 23: into the run game in the second half, to me,

2014
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,200
Speaker 23: is part of the reason we didn't see any effectiveness there.

2015
01:42:18,360 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 4: So going forward, you know, we got the Giants coming

2016
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 4: in Sunday Night football. I think it's really almost at

2017
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 4: this point. I know it's early in the season, early

2018
01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 4: in the week, we're kind of always in this spot,

2019
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 4: but you kind of sitting to see, like, where's the

2020
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 4: roster gonna be on Sunday night, right right?

2021
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 23: Because of the Yeah, there's just so many injuries. You know,

2022
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,920
Speaker 23: what do we see at corner? Kyir Elam filled in

2023
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,920
Speaker 23: this week? Is Benford going to be back? And then

2024
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 23: in that case we would assume it's Jackson and Benford

2025
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:50,960
Speaker 23: at corner. If not, is it Elam JaMarcus Ingram filled

2026
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 23: in for elm late?

2027
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 9: Is it him?

2028
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:54,559
Speaker 24: Is it Dotson or is it Hey?

2029
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,840
Speaker 23: With a full week of prep, Williams can play next

2030
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,800
Speaker 23: to Bernard in the middle of that defense. Who's lining

2031
01:42:59,880 --> 01:43:03,280
Speaker 23: up starters along the defensive line, who's healthy. There's just

2032
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 23: so many question marks, especially on the defensive side of

2033
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:06,439
Speaker 23: the football.

2034
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 24: It's gonna be interesting.

2035
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 23: I mean, Brandon Bean has his work cut out for him,

2036
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:13,960
Speaker 23: and obviously all the evaluations need to take price with

2037
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,759
Speaker 23: these injuries. But you got to get bodies over there

2038
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:20,360
Speaker 23: because you know, yesterday those guys just they got too

2039
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,840
Speaker 23: worn down. And look, it's generally one side of the

2040
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 23: ball that gets dinged up worse than the other. And

2041
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 23: right now it's the defense, and it's in these next

2042
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 23: coming weeks, and really they needed yesterday.

2043
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 24: They just didn't come through for him. The offense has

2044
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 24: got to step up.

2045
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 23: They've got to put pressure on opposing defenses or sorry,

2046
01:43:37,960 --> 01:43:41,040
Speaker 23: opposing offenses to where they make them play more aggressive

2047
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,839
Speaker 23: because the Bills are playing with the lead. Wouldn't surprise

2048
01:43:43,960 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 23: me to see maybe Sean McDermott switch up is defer

2049
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 23: to start the game to try and put points on

2050
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:52,599
Speaker 23: the board, to you know, try and get a jump

2051
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 23: start on teams in games. But this Bill's offense has

2052
01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 23: just got to click earlier in the game. And then

2053
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 23: they got to stay on the field well, because when

2054
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,559
Speaker 23: you have so many guys injured, you cannot leave your

2055
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 23: defense out on the field for as much as they

2056
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 23: did yesterday.

2057
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and knowing going forward, like even the defensive end position,

2058
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,800
Speaker 2: they do have depth, Erek, but von Miller could still

2059
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,120
Speaker 2: be on a pitch count next week. You don't know

2060
01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:18,000
Speaker 2: if Russeau has a day to day injury or a

2061
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 2: week to week injury. Leonard Floyd was dragging his leg

2062
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:24,000
Speaker 2: around at the end of the game yesterday, just gutting

2063
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,960
Speaker 2: it out because they had nobody else. Kingsley Jonathan went

2064
01:44:27,000 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 2: in and out of the game. Jack Lawson was down

2065
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 2: with the tow and ankle. I mean, you may see

2066
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:34,880
Speaker 2: a practice squad elevation for a guy like Cameron Klein

2067
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 2: this week, just so you know you have enough guys

2068
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,759
Speaker 2: with snaps. You should be okay defensive tackle because Poonaford's active,

2069
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:44,320
Speaker 2: not inactive this week presumably if Dai Kwon's not available,

2070
01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 2: so you should be okay there conceivably. But do you

2071
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 2: here's the question, do you call the defense a little

2072
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 2: more aggressively to help yourself maybe on the back end,

2073
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 2: so to speak, if you have enough pass rushers to

2074
01:44:58,000 --> 01:44:58,919
Speaker 2: get after somebody.

2075
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 23: Well, Sean tried that yesterday late in the game, and right,

2076
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,320
Speaker 23: I mean Trevor Lawrence, and really, I mean give them

2077
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:07,120
Speaker 23: credit on that throw and catch. I mean that over

2078
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,320
Speaker 23: the shoulder throwing catch with the guy barreling down on

2079
01:45:09,400 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 23: him when Bill's brought seven. I mean, that's that's a

2080
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,799
Speaker 23: big boy play and that essentially wins them the football

2081
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:17,599
Speaker 23: game in that moment, and really put it out.

2082
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 24: Of reach for the Bills because that was third down.

2083
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 23: I think Trevor Lawrence yesterday like nine on third and

2084
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:25,280
Speaker 23: fourth down he was nine to ten with like one

2085
01:45:25,360 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 23: hundred and forty yard. I mean, he was excellent in

2086
01:45:28,479 --> 01:45:32,640
Speaker 23: those kind of clutch situations. But yeah, I mean I

2087
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,519
Speaker 23: think you'll probably see a defensive end get elevated this week,

2088
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 23: likely would be Klin. So you have more bodies at

2089
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 23: that position because you just need depth. And yeah, hopefully

2090
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,400
Speaker 23: Bond can increase his snap count this week. Maybe you

2091
01:45:46,439 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 23: get a Russau back, not sure on that one, maybe

2092
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 23: a shack back, but you need bodies up there.

2093
01:45:51,800 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 24: And look, I mean, even without Dai Kwan.

2094
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:57,840
Speaker 23: Jones, that's a really talented front up there, and you'd

2095
01:45:57,880 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 23: like to think that they can.

2096
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 24: Create pressure with fool or to where you're giving some

2097
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 24: over the top help on the back end.

2098
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 23: But yeah, if you're struggling that corner like the Bills

2099
01:46:06,600 --> 01:46:10,160
Speaker 23: were yesterday, you got to try something. And credit Shoon

2100
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 23: for not just continuing to allow the Jaguars to dictate

2101
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 23: to him, and he did light him up with some pressures.

2102
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's really the key, is the pressure.

2103
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 4: And then how many guys you have to send to

2104
01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 4: get there. The more you send, the few Yeah.

2105
01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 23: Yeah, Because heading into the Jacksonville game, the Bills are

2106
01:46:26,080 --> 01:46:30,240
Speaker 23: the best in the NFL at pressuring opposing quarterbacks, bringing

2107
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 23: the second least amount of blitzes in the entire league.

2108
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 24: And so they've been so good at that and that look.

2109
01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 23: And we could give all the credit to the front,

2110
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:40,720
Speaker 23: but it's also the complexity of the back end of

2111
01:46:40,760 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 23: the Bills defense and how they mix man and zone

2112
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 23: constantly and the different looks. One of my favorite things

2113
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 23: that the Bills do, and I rarely see it from

2114
01:46:49,080 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 23: other teams, is and I'm not sure if this is

2115
01:46:51,360 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 23: an in play adjustment or not, but when teams just

2116
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:57,640
Speaker 23: run the receiver across the field just to get a

2117
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 23: simple manner zone read, there's a lot of time where

2118
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 23: Taron Johnson will run with that guy, which is shoot

2119
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:07,479
Speaker 23: signal man to the offense, and then they run zone

2120
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 23: behind it and you just see that quarterback pause just

2121
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 23: enough were then the pass rush is able to get home.

2122
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,160
Speaker 2: Quick thing about the Giants, Eric, which I'm sure you

2123
01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 2: have your ear to the ground on to some degree,

2124
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:20,839
Speaker 2: they are now the worst offense in football and thirty

2125
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 2: first in points scored. Their defense isn't much better, twenty

2126
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 2: ninth against the run and twenty ninth in points allowed.

2127
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:33,160
Speaker 2: It has been a precipitous fall from grace for Brian

2128
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 2: Dables team. Do you throw that all out the window?

2129
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 2: Knowing that there could be a little a little bit

2130
01:47:40,520 --> 01:47:46,679
Speaker 2: of coach v coach situation here, knowing I mean day

2131
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,840
Speaker 2: Ball and his offensive coordinator Mike Kafka have kind of

2132
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 2: gone back and forth on calling plays. He's taken away

2133
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 2: from him a couple of times so far this season.

2134
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 2: So we could see, you know, a resumption of what

2135
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,639
Speaker 2: we saw in Week four, or head coach versus head

2136
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 2: coach McDaniel versus McDermott. We might have Dable versus McDermott

2137
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:07,879
Speaker 2: head to head here, offense versus defense.

2138
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 23: Yeah, and regardless if Dave Ball's calling the players or not,

2139
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 23: he's gonna be instrumental in the game plan for this week,

2140
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 23: just with this familiarity with going against Sean and practice.

2141
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 9: Now.

2142
01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,960
Speaker 23: Leslie Fraser was a defense coordinator during the time that

2143
01:48:21,000 --> 01:48:23,280
Speaker 23: Dave Ball was with the Bills, but Sean has so

2144
01:48:23,360 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 23: much influence there, So yes, this is gonna be a

2145
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:27,080
Speaker 23: motivated giant staff.

2146
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:28,120
Speaker 24: You know they're building.

2147
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 23: You know, they're similar to how we felt early on

2148
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:35,439
Speaker 23: in the McDermott Bean era, where it's like Charlotte North,

2149
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 23: the Carolina Panthers North. They kind of feel like they're

2150
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:42,280
Speaker 23: Bills East right now. With the amount of guys from

2151
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 23: you know, whether they're Bills cuts or guys that they

2152
01:48:45,000 --> 01:48:47,240
Speaker 23: pick up and guys on their coaching staff, there's gonna

2153
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 23: be a lot of motivation there. There's gonna be a

2154
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 23: lot of motivation on this Bills team too. You play

2155
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,599
Speaker 23: in front of your home crowd coming off of loss

2156
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 23: over in London, they're gonna they're gonna be looking to

2157
01:48:56,280 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 23: bounce back as well. So I wouldn't expect the extra

2158
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:04,160
Speaker 23: motivation to be slanted one way over the other just

2159
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 23: because those guys came from this Bill staff.

2160
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:09,759
Speaker 4: One of the things we've been talking about here also

2161
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,920
Speaker 4: is that you know, you got Josh on this offense.

2162
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 4: He's playing at a high level. Steph Diggs is playing

2163
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 4: at a high level. James Cook has had some nice

2164
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,240
Speaker 4: games and some moments. Dalton kin Kid has made some

2165
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 4: nice catches, not really a big play yet. Yesterday to

2166
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:26,960
Speaker 4: start the game off the first third down, James Cook

2167
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 4: has that ball go through his hands and it's up

2168
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,360
Speaker 4: three and out on the first series. The next series,

2169
01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,320
Speaker 4: Dalton Kinkaid catches a flat route, turns it up and

2170
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:36,400
Speaker 4: again runs out, gets run out of bounds before the

2171
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 4: first down. Marker picked somebody on this offense that you

2172
01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:44,519
Speaker 4: think needs to elevate to get to where Diggs is,

2173
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,640
Speaker 4: to get to where Josh is some other way, some

2174
01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:50,200
Speaker 4: other guy that can win a game for the Bills

2175
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,519
Speaker 4: offensively where they've got Diggs and Josh and they're kind

2176
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:58,080
Speaker 4: of looking for that third guy, another person, another way,

2177
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,280
Speaker 4: another aspect of this offense to emerge and give him

2178
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 4: another way to win in a game like they had

2179
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 4: yesterday in Jacksonville against Jacksonville.

2180
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,000
Speaker 23: Yeah, that's a that's a great question, see because as

2181
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:10,920
Speaker 23: me and Chris were talking about adjustments coming out of

2182
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,720
Speaker 23: the half, my halftime adjustment for the Bills offense is

2183
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 23: force speed Digs. There's no one that can cover him

2184
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:17,639
Speaker 23: over there, just force speed him. And they did that

2185
01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 23: at times in the second half. But yeah, when you

2186
01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:24,400
Speaker 23: look at that kind of that next spot behind Diggs,

2187
01:50:24,479 --> 01:50:26,599
Speaker 23: like you'd want to see Davis develop into it. He's

2188
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:29,720
Speaker 23: had four touchdowns of four games he's played well, but

2189
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,400
Speaker 23: then you just have that crucial drop, the one against

2190
01:50:32,680 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 23: the Commanders that Josh then throws the interception a couple

2191
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 23: of plays later on the one yesterday. Later in the game,

2192
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:42,840
Speaker 23: it's like those little plays, whether it's the tight end

2193
01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 23: position to either Knox or Kincaid that can make some

2194
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:47,880
Speaker 23: plays that can kind of get up near that like

2195
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 23: eighty yard mark in the game. And then look, Cook

2196
01:50:51,600 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 23: showed flashes of being that guy, whether it's on the

2197
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:55,120
Speaker 23: ground or through the air.

2198
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,479
Speaker 24: Just got to do it on a more consistent basis.

2199
01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,840
Speaker 23: And whether that's the blocking and scheme or whether that

2200
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 23: you know him just having struggles within the game, someone's

2201
01:51:03,439 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 23: got to step up there. I wish I had a

2202
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:08,120
Speaker 23: more concrete answer for you other than that might be

2203
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 23: a week to week thing, like we kind of saw

2204
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,160
Speaker 23: a hearty breakout a little bit in the second half yesterday.

2205
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 23: It might be a week to week thing to where, Okay,

2206
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 23: all this because look, opposing defensive coordinators are only gonna

2207
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 23: let Digs go for six over one hundred yards and

2208
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,160
Speaker 23: one to three touchdowns a game for so long before

2209
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:30,400
Speaker 23: they simply say, Okay, we gotta fully take him away,

2210
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 23: do anything we can make someone else beat him and

2211
01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:35,040
Speaker 23: it might be a week to week thing there.

2212
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you took the words out of my mouth with Hardy.

2213
01:51:37,920 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 2: I think we saw some downfield ability that we heard

2214
01:51:41,040 --> 01:51:44,160
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean talk about in regard to Hardy in the offseason.

2215
01:51:44,760 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 2: Maybe seeing that on film this week will get him

2216
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:52,559
Speaker 2: more opportunities this coming week against the Giants. Safe travels, Eric,

2217
01:51:53,000 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 2: Good luck getting home on leg number two here, and

2218
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:56,960
Speaker 2: we'll catch up with you at the end of the week.

2219
01:51:58,240 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 12: Okay, sounds good.

2220
01:51:59,240 --> 01:51:59,679
Speaker 24: Thanks guys.

2221
01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,600
Speaker 2: All right, that's Eric Wood joining us here as he

2222
01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:05,640
Speaker 2: does every Monday after Bill's games with his insight on

2223
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 2: the performance. Yeah. I mean I was encouraged by what

2224
01:52:08,680 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 2: I saw from Deontay Hardy. Granted it's only two targets,

2225
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 2: two catches, but they go for sixty two yards. There

2226
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,559
Speaker 2: was some there was a downfield component to his game

2227
01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 2: yesterday that to this point we had not seen. And

2228
01:52:19,520 --> 01:52:23,280
Speaker 2: so I'm wondering coaches reviewing the film looking back at that, saying,

2229
01:52:23,400 --> 01:52:25,559
Speaker 2: you know what, maybe we get him on the field

2230
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 2: a little bit more to threaten a defense, you know,

2231
01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:32,880
Speaker 2: to create more room underneath for people like Kincaid or

2232
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:36,240
Speaker 2: Cook on a checkdown. You know, maybe Hardy because of

2233
01:52:36,280 --> 01:52:39,719
Speaker 2: what he did yesterday, gets himself more opportunities this coming

2234
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:40,799
Speaker 2: week against the Giants.

2235
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:43,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to have somebody go out there get

2236
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:45,559
Speaker 4: an opportunity that they, like I said, hit it out

2237
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:47,320
Speaker 4: of the park. I mean, they got to take a

2238
01:52:47,640 --> 01:52:51,120
Speaker 4: swing on somebody and have somebody get a hit. They

2239
01:52:51,120 --> 01:52:53,519
Speaker 4: haven't been able to do that consistently. James Cook has

2240
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 4: gotten the most opportunity and done the most with it,

2241
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 4: but guys like Kincaid has been an outlet at best.

2242
01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:05,840
Speaker 4: Knox has been about what we thought he would be.

2243
01:53:05,840 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 4: Particularly given the presence of Kincaid, his role has changed

2244
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 4: a little bit from where it has been in the past.

2245
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 4: I like what they've done with Murray and Harris, Damien Harris.

2246
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 4: I love what they've done with those guys. They've helped.

2247
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 4: But Gabe Davis, I mean, he had one hundred yards

2248
01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:28,640
Speaker 4: receiving yesterday, had the touchdown, and he's been effective.

2249
01:53:29,960 --> 01:53:33,360
Speaker 2: But you know, four touchdowns in four games, right, producing

2250
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 2: in some capacity? Yeah, just not volume, right right?

2251
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 4: I mean you got one hundred yards yesterday and had

2252
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:44,040
Speaker 4: a few five catches, six catches, you know, I don't know.

2253
01:53:44,280 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 2: That volume every week would be good, but you don't

2254
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 2: get six for one hundred. Last week it was three

2255
01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:50,280
Speaker 2: for sixty one. Right, still had to touch it. But

2256
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,679
Speaker 2: it's three for sixty one, then it's six for one hundred.

2257
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 2: You need five six six seven, five six. If he's

2258
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 2: going to be your number two option.

2259
01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 4: You've got this football team that's Josh Allen step offensively,

2260
01:54:01,439 --> 01:54:03,880
Speaker 4: Josh Allen Steph digs. This offensive line is doing well,

2261
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 4: but you need others. I think you gotta you gotta

2262
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:08,559
Speaker 4: cultivate others.

2263
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's why I was encouraged by Hardy. I mean,

2264
01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 2: he only gets fifteen snaps and he gets two catches

2265
01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:16,880
Speaker 2: for sixty two yards. I mean that big forty three

2266
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 2: yarder was was a big play that was instrumental in

2267
01:54:20,000 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 2: them getting down the field and into plus territory. Shakir

2268
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:28,120
Speaker 2: plays nineteen snaps, he has one catch. Like you're hoping

2269
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:33,240
Speaker 2: that the supporting role guys can affect the game more

2270
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 2: than we saw yesterday. Maybe they need more snaps to

2271
01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 2: do that. And some people might argue that, Look, if

2272
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:46,680
Speaker 2: Kincaid's gonna play thirty two snaps and you know, catch

2273
01:54:46,720 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 2: two balls, maybe you shouldn't get thirty two snaps, right,

2274
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:53,440
Speaker 2: Maybe you got to go back to eleven personnel more.

2275
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 4: Maybe I don't know. I I mean, I'm not saying

2276
01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 4: say yes, but I'm just floating down this. And I

2277
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:02,840
Speaker 4: said this last week and have said this for the

2278
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:05,240
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks. And you know, they're scoring thirty seven,

2279
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 4: thirty eight, forty seven points on all these teams and

2280
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 4: they're just singing offensively. You don't need that stuff then,

2281
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 4: but in a game like you better have something on

2282
01:55:15,320 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 4: the burner that you're willing to try. And maybe they

2283
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 4: did yesterday. I just didn't notice it or see it.

2284
01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,440
Speaker 4: But yesterday they got into a spot where nobody was

2285
01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 4: really executing at a hot razor sharp level like they

2286
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 4: had for whatever reason, injuries, time change, road environment at

2287
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 4: a home environment, kind of weird thing of funky schedule

2288
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 4: at the end of the week. Who knows why, but

2289
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 4: they weren't sharp. And that's why I'll say it again,

2290
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 4: it's not once you get in these games, the players

2291
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 4: got to execute and make a play. And it's not

2292
01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 4: so much a game plan or philosophy and get that,

2293
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:53,920
Speaker 4: but somebody's got to step up and make the most

2294
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 4: of an opportunity and nobody did. Nobody did. You had

2295
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:00,640
Speaker 4: some guys that had great games, but Steph and Josh

2296
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 4: Allen everybody knows about and they can manage that. But

2297
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 4: you got to give him something they're not ready for.

2298
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 4: They can give you a chance to stay on the

2299
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 4: field and not let the other team have thirty eight

2300
01:56:10,560 --> 01:56:12,920
Speaker 4: minutes of time of possession.

2301
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 2: Right, let go to the phones and to Steven in

2302
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:20,880
Speaker 2: north Tonawanda. Hang on, what do you got for a Steven?

2303
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:25,040
Speaker 2: You're on one. Bill's Live, Steven?

2304
01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:25,760
Speaker 4: Are you there.

2305
01:56:27,240 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 15: All right?

2306
01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 2: I'll put him on hold. Maybe he's not listening right now.

2307
01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:34,320
Speaker 2: The other thing, Steve, that I saw just in reviewing

2308
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:38,400
Speaker 2: my notes again leading up to this game, Jacksonville best

2309
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 2: defense in football defending twelve personnel. They've got a box

2310
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 2: safety in Rayshn Jenkins who is better near the line

2311
01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 2: of scrimmage than he is down the field. You saw

2312
01:56:49,000 --> 01:56:51,600
Speaker 2: him on the run blitzes and some other plays like that.

2313
01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:55,840
Speaker 2: And I don't know, does that impact your game plan.

2314
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:58,480
Speaker 2: Just because they're best in the league at defending twelve

2315
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 2: personnel doesn't mean you don't run it. But to your point,

2316
01:57:01,840 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 2: maybe you have something else in your back pocket to

2317
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 2: turn to in case they do prove effective in defending it.

2318
01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 4: And it's there's no question. I mean, good teams like

2319
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,680
Speaker 4: the and the Bills are. The Bills are one of

2320
01:57:10,680 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 4: the laite teams in the league. Despite a loss yesterday,

2321
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 4: you got to have a Plan B and a Plan

2322
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:19,840
Speaker 4: C and be able to win with either of them.

2323
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:23,960
Speaker 4: And yesterday, when they did that and turn to those things,

2324
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,760
Speaker 4: whatever those might have been, you know, they didn't they

2325
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:32,160
Speaker 4: didn't execute, and I think yesterday was a was you

2326
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 4: know that these didn't look like they were the same team.

2327
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 4: Now credit the Jacksonville Jaguars that I think there is

2328
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:41,520
Speaker 4: something in there about a three four defense that the

2329
01:57:41,520 --> 01:57:45,760
Speaker 4: Bill's got to address. And you know, they didn't play

2330
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,640
Speaker 4: up play as well as they should have. I think

2331
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:50,800
Speaker 4: their offensive line probably looking at it going out, we

2332
01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 4: should have done this little better, listening better. Because of that,

2333
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 4: they did get pressure and consistent pressure, which is something new,

2334
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:58,960
Speaker 4: and that's something new that this team hasn't faced all year.

2335
01:57:59,000 --> 01:58:01,760
Speaker 2: So all of that's the exception of Week one.

2336
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:04,520
Speaker 4: All yeah, all the that stuff goes into the into

2337
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 4: the stew and you need to come out of there

2338
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:08,840
Speaker 4: with some answers. And I'm sure the Bill's coaching staff

2339
01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:13,200
Speaker 4: and the players will as well. Usually players are as

2340
01:58:13,200 --> 01:58:15,520
Speaker 4: dip or as hard on themselves as anybody out here

2341
01:58:15,560 --> 01:58:19,560
Speaker 4: in the regular population is. They put pressure on themselves

2342
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:21,120
Speaker 4: to play better and then play at a high level.

2343
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:24,200
Speaker 4: And they're gonna make some adjustments this week, no question.

2344
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:27,120
Speaker 2: Let's try Steven in north Tonawanda a second time. What

2345
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 2: do you got Steven? All right, Steven must not be there.

2346
01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him go. We tried twice there, buddy. Sorry,

2347
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,280
Speaker 2: we couldn't connect with you on that. We will take

2348
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 2: a break here, we will. We will still take your

2349
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 2: phone calls at eight oh three, five point fifty one,

2350
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Speaker 2: eight eight eight, five point fifty two, five point fifty Uh.

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01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 2: We will get into more of this game and what happened,

2352
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:52,800
Speaker 2: and we will spin it forward a little bit as

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01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 2: we get ready for the Giants this coming week in

2354
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:59,920
Speaker 2: Week six for Sunday Night football at high Mark Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Break time, We're back in a flash here on One

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01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:11,360
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented by Cold of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:17,400
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve

2358
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:21,200
Speaker 2: Tasker with you and taking your phone calls at eight

2359
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:24,400
Speaker 2: o three oh five fifty for your takeaways from Sunday's

2360
01:59:24,440 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 2: game in London. We'll get to the tweet sheet as

2361
01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 2: well in just a second, but first to the phones

2362
01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 2: and leading us off here is Mark in Amherst, Mark,

2363
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 2: what do you got for Hold on? Mark? What do

2364
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:37,040
Speaker 2: you got for us?

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01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:37,200
Speaker 4: Here?

2366
01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:37,880
Speaker 2: On one Bill's Live.

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01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:40,640
Speaker 22: How you doing, guys good?

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01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 14: I just have an opinion on something I'd like to

2369
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:46,320
Speaker 14: hear your guys comment. How was that training camp on

2370
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:50,920
Speaker 14: the sidelines on a few different occasions, I know what

2371
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:54,240
Speaker 14: I saw, and everybody was thinking, it's coming down to

2372
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:59,680
Speaker 14: Shakier or Isabella, and one's gonna get cut. My opinion

2373
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:02,840
Speaker 14: was Shakier didn't earn the spot on the team, so

2374
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:04,840
Speaker 14: they put him on the team. And that's by and

2375
02:00:05,080 --> 02:00:08,280
Speaker 14: they're in charge. Except you go out and you pay

2376
02:00:08,360 --> 02:00:09,600
Speaker 14: for Sherfield and Hardy.

2377
02:00:09,680 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 5: You have two.

2378
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:14,600
Speaker 14: Weapons, You have an offense that's stagnant. You gloo them

2379
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 14: to the bench. You finally bring Hardy out for a

2380
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:23,000
Speaker 14: sixty yard catch in desperation time. He's opposing defensive coordinators

2381
02:00:23,080 --> 02:00:26,360
Speaker 14: know what Shakir is. He's out there as a decoy

2382
02:00:26,440 --> 02:00:29,800
Speaker 14: most of the time running motions. Josh throws him a

2383
02:00:29,880 --> 02:00:33,440
Speaker 14: pass a two point conversion. To throw it to him

2384
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 14: is ridiculous. If you're going to call that play, it

2385
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 14: should have been to Deontay Hardy, who's more elusive. I

2386
02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:42,040
Speaker 14: just want to hang up and listen to your guys'

2387
02:00:42,040 --> 02:00:42,720
Speaker 14: comments on this.

2388
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's those are fair points, Mark, I understand where

2389
02:00:46,160 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 2: you're coming from. Shakiro did get the most snaps between him,

2390
02:00:48,760 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 2: Hardy and Sherfield nineteen to fifteen to eleven and out

2391
02:00:53,280 --> 02:00:57,360
Speaker 2: in the flat there. If you want to argue better

2392
02:00:57,480 --> 02:01:00,640
Speaker 2: space player option, I would agree with you on Hardy.

2393
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 2: Shakira is not a player who is strong enough to

2394
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 2: pull through tackles. When one guy gets him, he's usually

2395
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,800
Speaker 2: on the ground. He rarely pulls himself through tackles to

2396
02:01:12,800 --> 02:01:15,760
Speaker 2: get extra yardage. So if you want to argue Hardy

2397
02:01:15,880 --> 02:01:18,960
Speaker 2: in space, I would listen to that. If you want

2398
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 2: to go bigger and stronger, I would go Shurefield, who

2399
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 2: could pull through a tackle like that. He's big enough

2400
02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 2: and strong enough to do that. I was very impressed

2401
02:01:27,640 --> 02:01:30,200
Speaker 2: with the training camp and the preseason the Trent Sherfield

2402
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:33,560
Speaker 2: put together, and if it was my choice, I would

2403
02:01:33,560 --> 02:01:37,880
Speaker 2: have him on the field. More of those three guys

2404
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:41,160
Speaker 2: that you mentioned. Hardy showed me something on Sunday where

2405
02:01:41,200 --> 02:01:43,360
Speaker 2: I would be inclined if it was my decision to

2406
02:01:43,400 --> 02:01:45,720
Speaker 2: make to get him some more reps on the field.

2407
02:01:45,720 --> 02:01:47,840
Speaker 2: There is a downfield component to his game that we

2408
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:50,800
Speaker 2: saw finally this past week that I think could be

2409
02:01:50,840 --> 02:01:56,080
Speaker 2: put into action as well. So if you're asking me

2410
02:01:56,200 --> 02:02:00,120
Speaker 2: where I'm coming from, mark, my order of priority in

2411
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:02,440
Speaker 2: terms of getting guys on the field and getting opportunities

2412
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:06,120
Speaker 2: would go sherfield, Hardy Shakir, That's where I would come from.

2413
02:02:06,200 --> 02:02:07,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if Steve's order would be different.

2414
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I yeah. The two point conversion yesterday looked bad.

2415
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:15,800
Speaker 4: Shakiir caught it and didn't have an answer for the

2416
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:19,400
Speaker 4: guy closing on him, And you know, that's it's it's

2417
02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:21,640
Speaker 4: tough to sit here and take that. I'm kind of

2418
02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 4: with you. I thought the and I thought Andy Isabella

2419
02:02:24,640 --> 02:02:26,240
Speaker 4: had a nice camp as well. I was, and we

2420
02:02:26,240 --> 02:02:30,080
Speaker 4: were impressed with him from the from the jump, and

2421
02:02:30,200 --> 02:02:32,160
Speaker 4: for some reason he is not in the in the

2422
02:02:32,200 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 4: mix either, and I'm I'm about there's no question Shakir

2423
02:02:37,320 --> 02:02:40,400
Speaker 4: is probably the slowest of the three of the four

2424
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:45,800
Speaker 4: actually quickness, Yeah, so yeah, it's easy to sit here

2425
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 4: and look at that and say, wow, he did not

2426
02:02:48,400 --> 02:02:51,520
Speaker 4: look good on the two point conversion. But they the

2427
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 4: guys got you know, some I don't know. Yeah, you

2428
02:02:57,680 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 4: always want to see something different when it doesn't work well. Yeah,

2429
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 4: And I think Shakir is one of those guys that

2430
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:05,760
Speaker 4: we're talking about. Maybe the opportunities he's gotten, I wish

2431
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:07,400
Speaker 4: he would have done more with and I wish somebody

2432
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:10,720
Speaker 4: else would. Now you know, I'm got a conversation about

2433
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:14,520
Speaker 4: who's gonna give us more. I don't know how that.

2434
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:17,000
Speaker 4: I don't know how those conversations go, to be honest.

2435
02:03:16,760 --> 02:03:20,080
Speaker 2: With you, Yeah, but I mean we all everybody has

2436
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 2: their preferences. Everybody has players they like better than others

2437
02:03:22,920 --> 02:03:26,800
Speaker 2: on the roster, and the coaches are no different. And

2438
02:03:26,840 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 2: as Steve says all the time, we have to remember,

2439
02:03:29,520 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 2: the coaches are the one seeing them every day on

2440
02:03:31,320 --> 02:03:33,720
Speaker 2: the practice field. They're the one seeing them every day

2441
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:36,680
Speaker 2: in the field in you know, film study and classroom work.

2442
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 2: So they're the most equipped to make the best decision

2443
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:44,600
Speaker 2: for the team. But the proof is in the putting

2444
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:48,440
Speaker 2: on game day also, and if you're gonna if you're

2445
02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:52,360
Speaker 2: gonna make plays like hardy made. You just probably deserve

2446
02:03:52,360 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 2: a little more time on the field, because it's about

2447
02:03:54,400 --> 02:03:56,800
Speaker 2: the stuff you do on game day count should count

2448
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 2: the most.

2449
02:03:57,400 --> 02:04:01,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really I believe that too. I think whenever

2450
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:04,040
Speaker 4: you struggle, you know you're gonna say, wow, we should

2451
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 4: give this guy trying, this guy chance, or you should

2452
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:07,760
Speaker 4: have called this play as of that player. You should

2453
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:10,000
Speaker 4: be doing more this and less of this. So on

2454
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:13,720
Speaker 4: a day like today, you know, that's what we do.

2455
02:04:13,760 --> 02:04:16,240
Speaker 4: We throw darts at decisions that have already been made

2456
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 4: and you know the results of So it's it's easy

2457
02:04:18,720 --> 02:04:20,400
Speaker 4: to sit here and say, you know, make this change,

2458
02:04:20,440 --> 02:04:22,640
Speaker 4: make that change, do this to that. Let's not forget

2459
02:04:22,640 --> 02:04:27,440
Speaker 4: this is the team that was absolutely absolutely singing through

2460
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,360
Speaker 4: the first month of the season. Last three weeks they

2461
02:04:30,360 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 4: have been the absolute darling in the NFL, and they met.

2462
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 2: A team that was lying.

2463
02:04:36,720 --> 02:04:38,560
Speaker 4: That was lying in wait and kind of on a

2464
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:41,040
Speaker 4: funky schedule, and they got a bunch of injuries and

2465
02:04:41,040 --> 02:04:43,160
Speaker 4: they're not the same team this week that they were

2466
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:46,760
Speaker 4: two games ago. But you Saturday of last week they

2467
02:04:46,760 --> 02:04:49,200
Speaker 4: were a completely different roster than they are in this week.

2468
02:04:49,520 --> 02:04:52,360
Speaker 4: And going forward, they're gonna have to adjust on the fly,

2469
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 4: and we don't know what it's gonna look like. I

2470
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:58,440
Speaker 4: think that's the real question going forward here. What's gonna

2471
02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:00,160
Speaker 4: happen and how productive are they going to be with

2472
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 4: different guys playing on defense? Particularly right what's that gonna

2473
02:05:04,480 --> 02:05:07,720
Speaker 4: look like? We don't know. You're taught. You are down

2474
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:11,240
Speaker 4: two corn your best two outside corners, your best two

2475
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:15,200
Speaker 4: defensive linemen or defense defensive ends, and your best linebacker

2476
02:05:15,320 --> 02:05:18,080
Speaker 4: Von Miller was on pitch count and Greg Russeau wasn't

2477
02:05:18,080 --> 02:05:20,520
Speaker 4: there and you're all pro middle guy who's the heart

2478
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:22,480
Speaker 4: and soul of everything was gone at the middle of

2479
02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:25,960
Speaker 4: the first You know, that's a that's a tough pill.

2480
02:05:26,680 --> 02:05:30,520
Speaker 4: So going forward, I can't worry about yesterday. You got

2481
02:05:30,520 --> 02:05:33,240
Speaker 4: to go forward. What's this going to look like? That's

2482
02:05:33,240 --> 02:05:35,040
Speaker 4: the real question. What are they gonna do with the

2483
02:05:35,080 --> 02:05:37,880
Speaker 4: personnel and making some real decisions about who's gonna get

2484
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:42,280
Speaker 4: the most snaps going forward? That's a real question.

2485
02:05:42,520 --> 02:05:44,760
Speaker 2: I think people have the question about the offense because

2486
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:45,960
Speaker 2: I think they know they're gonna have to pull on

2487
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 2: the rope a little bit harder in these coming weeks,

2488
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,400
Speaker 2: So they think except that they want more productive answers

2489
02:05:51,440 --> 02:05:52,120
Speaker 2: and who is that.

2490
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:54,200
Speaker 4: In a game where the Jaguars they didn't know it

2491
02:05:54,240 --> 02:05:56,920
Speaker 4: going in and all of a sudden mid game they

2492
02:05:56,920 --> 02:06:00,320
Speaker 4: got kneecapped by this thing no I know roster, and

2493
02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:01,960
Speaker 4: they still only gave up twenty five.

2494
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:04,040
Speaker 2: But I guess I think what a lot of the

2495
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:06,400
Speaker 2: fans are asking today is now you have time to

2496
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,280
Speaker 2: prepare for the next game, knowing you don't have a

2497
02:06:08,280 --> 02:06:11,040
Speaker 2: lot of those elements. And I think a lot of

2498
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:13,440
Speaker 2: the Bills fans feel the offense is gonna have to

2499
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:14,800
Speaker 2: pull on the rope a little bit harder now with

2500
02:06:14,800 --> 02:06:18,080
Speaker 2: the defense down potentially five starters. Who's stepping up to

2501
02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:20,000
Speaker 2: do that? And people have their preferences.

2502
02:06:20,200 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 4: I get it this week. This week, though you're not

2503
02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:29,640
Speaker 4: facing Jacksonville Jaguars. This giant offense can't even Jacksonville run

2504
02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:36,080
Speaker 4: those guys out of the gym offensively. Jacksonville's quarterback can play.

2505
02:06:36,320 --> 02:06:39,640
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones at best is a manager.

2506
02:06:40,160 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thirty first in passing, thirty second in total offense,

2507
02:06:45,080 --> 02:06:47,560
Speaker 2: twenty third in rushing. Now, granted they have not had

2508
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:49,600
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley each of the last two weeks. He might

2509
02:06:49,640 --> 02:06:52,680
Speaker 2: be ready to play this week. Thirty first in points scored.

2510
02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 2: They are also twenty sixth and third down conversions and

2511
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 2: the defense is not much better twenty seventh in total

2512
02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:02,800
Speaker 2: defense twenty ninth and run defense nineteenth and pass defense

2513
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 2: twenty ninth. In points allowed third down, they're getting off

2514
02:07:06,160 --> 02:07:10,320
Speaker 2: the field at twenty third in the league. So it's

2515
02:07:10,360 --> 02:07:11,880
Speaker 2: it's been a tough road to hope for the Giants

2516
02:07:11,920 --> 02:07:15,120
Speaker 2: here out of the gate. But you know, Prime Time

2517
02:07:15,160 --> 02:07:17,040
Speaker 2: as a way of rallying the troops sometimes, so we'll

2518
02:07:17,080 --> 02:07:18,880
Speaker 2: have to see what comes of it. To Mark in

2519
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:21,040
Speaker 2: Lockport next, from one Mark to another, what do you

2520
02:07:21,080 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 2: got for his Mark?

2521
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 5: Hey, well, it's great show love it. During the summer.

2522
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:31,760
Speaker 5: As far as the European Games, why can't they incorporate

2523
02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:36,560
Speaker 5: the bye weeks actually played on the following Saturday. So

2524
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:39,480
Speaker 5: equal time calling back, just teams on a bye week

2525
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:40,360
Speaker 5: go over to Europe.

2526
02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:42,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do give him the idea. They gave him

2527
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 4: the option. Every team can have a bye after the

2528
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:51,840
Speaker 4: after their he's saying before yeah, right, yeah, okay, whatever, I.

2529
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:54,840
Speaker 5: Mean, only teams that are involved with the bye week

2530
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:56,040
Speaker 5: have to go to Europe.

2531
02:07:57,680 --> 02:07:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could probably work that into this

2532
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:02,160
Speaker 2: edual algorithm. So I see what so you can get

2533
02:08:02,160 --> 02:08:04,920
Speaker 2: them a proper acclamation period. Mark. I respect what you're saying.

2534
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 2: I don't hate that the Bills had the option of

2535
02:08:07,800 --> 02:08:10,480
Speaker 2: taking the bye week this week after their London game.

2536
02:08:10,560 --> 02:08:13,280
Speaker 2: They chose not to. They have it later in the season,

2537
02:08:13,880 --> 02:08:19,280
Speaker 2: and I actually agree with that. I kind of like

2538
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:22,000
Speaker 2: Mark's idea. Put the bye before they have to go

2539
02:08:22,080 --> 02:08:24,840
Speaker 2: over so they have the time to acclimate and they

2540
02:08:24,840 --> 02:08:26,720
Speaker 2: can go over. I mean, of course, you could argue

2541
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 2: they could have left on Monday anyway and done it

2542
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 2: without a bye, But I get what you're saying, Mark.

2543
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:38,200
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's a panacea for this. Because

2544
02:08:39,160 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 2: the Ravens left today for their London game on Sunday.

2545
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:44,720
Speaker 2: Bills could have done that too if they wanted, they

2546
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:49,640
Speaker 2: chose not to. The Jaguars left on the same schedule

2547
02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:53,160
Speaker 2: that the Bills did a week earlier. Falcons, to my knowledge,

2548
02:08:53,240 --> 02:08:58,440
Speaker 2: left on Thursday night, just like the Jaguars did. Different

2549
02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:02,360
Speaker 2: results for different people, different teams, So it kind of

2550
02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:05,080
Speaker 2: is what it is at this point in time. Let's

2551
02:09:05,080 --> 02:09:07,280
Speaker 2: go to Kenny on a sale. What do you got

2552
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:07,840
Speaker 2: for us? Kenny?

2553
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 9: Yes, how you doing good?

2554
02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:15,640
Speaker 12: I'm talking about the wide receivers gave Davis and some digs.

2555
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 9: I think Game Davis is doing echling down because.

2556
02:09:19,600 --> 02:09:24,040
Speaker 21: John Stealin Hawsy targeted Diggs because you know that's his

2557
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:25,000
Speaker 21: main mayor.

2558
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 12: I think he gave David Debal a lot more. Davis

2559
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:32,160
Speaker 12: from being real a lot better. He touched him everything.

2560
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:36,240
Speaker 12: He might prob one or two pass out of the game,

2561
02:09:36,320 --> 02:09:38,960
Speaker 12: but he careches nine passes.

2562
02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that I can completely agree with that, Kenny,

2563
02:09:42,240 --> 02:09:44,120
Speaker 2: because he led the league in drops last year, so

2564
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:46,360
Speaker 2: he's better this year.

2565
02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:48,800
Speaker 12: You're talking about we were talking about this year.

2566
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:51,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand what you're saying. We know, but you

2567
02:09:51,960 --> 02:09:54,320
Speaker 2: know what the history is, that's all. And he dropped

2568
02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:56,680
Speaker 2: a third down He dropped a third down pass yesterday

2569
02:09:56,680 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 2: that killed the drive. And I'm look, I'm not trying

2570
02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:01,360
Speaker 2: to pile on Game Davis. I think he's been good

2571
02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 2: this year, and he's been more consistent certainly than he

2572
02:10:04,200 --> 02:10:07,960
Speaker 2: was last year, which is important because they need him.

2573
02:10:08,280 --> 02:10:11,400
Speaker 2: And he was productive yesterday six catches, hundred yards, touchdown.

2574
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 2: But in a loss, some of those shortcomings get magnified.

2575
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:18,120
Speaker 2: And we've had fans calling us today and they're hanging

2576
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:21,280
Speaker 2: on that drop and I understand why because you're off

2577
02:10:21,280 --> 02:10:22,960
Speaker 2: the field because you didn't get it and it's in

2578
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:25,480
Speaker 2: his hands and he's got to have those. And gab

2579
02:10:25,520 --> 02:10:27,200
Speaker 2: would probably be the first person to tell you that

2580
02:10:30,320 --> 02:10:33,720
Speaker 2: you need somebody to be a week in week out

2581
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:41,280
Speaker 2: bonafide secondary contributor. And Davis has been productive. And if

2582
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 2: you're voting on who is the most likely guy to

2583
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:47,800
Speaker 2: be that, it's probably gave Davis on them based on

2584
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,080
Speaker 2: the production that he's had for this team the last

2585
02:10:50,080 --> 02:10:50,640
Speaker 2: four weeks.

2586
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:54,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's been very good this year, and mostly

2587
02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:56,240
Speaker 4: because he has not had the drops that he had

2588
02:10:56,280 --> 02:11:00,240
Speaker 4: a year ago, they have not that he is rarely

2589
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 4: been the centerpiece because Diggs has been so effective, right,

2590
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:05,080
Speaker 4: but he has done everything they've asked him to do.

2591
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:10,160
Speaker 4: And Litsten, I mean, coming into this game against Jacksonville,

2592
02:11:10,560 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 4: this offense was doing everything they wanted to do and

2593
02:11:13,040 --> 02:11:16,520
Speaker 4: getting it done at a high level. So the fact

2594
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:19,680
Speaker 4: that they hit a bump in the road, I think

2595
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:21,440
Speaker 4: it says more about the league and the way that

2596
02:11:21,440 --> 02:11:24,400
Speaker 4: it's a week to week league than it does about

2597
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:28,600
Speaker 4: any individual player. We said it last week. We knew

2598
02:11:29,120 --> 02:11:31,960
Speaker 4: it's hard to keep scoring thirty five points a game

2599
02:11:32,080 --> 02:11:33,360
Speaker 4: in this league week to week.

2600
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:36,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to do high level efficiency. That's difficult

2601
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:37,520
Speaker 2: to sustain.

2602
02:11:37,640 --> 02:11:39,520
Speaker 4: So you knew they were gonna, you know, they would,

2603
02:11:39,560 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 4: you know, at least come back. You figured you'd hope

2604
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:43,440
Speaker 4: they could win a tough game like this instead of

2605
02:11:43,480 --> 02:11:45,400
Speaker 4: losing a tough game. But you knew tough games are

2606
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:47,120
Speaker 4: on the road, and there's going to be more of them.

2607
02:11:47,520 --> 02:11:49,520
Speaker 4: It ain't gonna get easier from here on. It it's

2608
02:11:49,520 --> 02:11:52,919
Speaker 4: gonna get harder. With the roster changes and the injuries

2609
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:55,120
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. It's gonna get harder, not easier.

2610
02:11:55,120 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 4: So they got to find ways to win games like

2611
02:11:57,640 --> 02:12:00,240
Speaker 4: they played in yesterday instead of losing a close game,

2612
02:12:00,280 --> 02:12:02,560
Speaker 4: win a close game. But that's where they're at it.

2613
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:05,560
Speaker 4: It wasn't always going to be forty seven to twenty,

2614
02:12:06,520 --> 02:12:07,640
Speaker 4: you know, week after week.

2615
02:12:09,240 --> 02:12:11,840
Speaker 2: We have to step aside. Here one final segment to go,

2616
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 2: we'll try to squeeze in a phone call and a

2617
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:15,280
Speaker 2: thought on the tweet sheet next here on One Bill's Live.

2618
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:35,400
Speaker 2: Stay tuned, all right, welcome back, and to squeeze Bob

2619
02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:37,520
Speaker 2: and cheek Dowaga in here before the end of the show.

2620
02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:38,480
Speaker 2: Do you got Bob quickly.

2621
02:12:39,240 --> 02:12:41,959
Speaker 25: Hey guys, I just got to stick up for Shakira

2622
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:44,520
Speaker 25: a little bit here. I think he's having an okay

2623
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:47,360
Speaker 25: year for us. Will you agree with this on me?

2624
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 25: Watch that replay for the for the two points he's

2625
02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:54,160
Speaker 25: gotta I love Josh, I really do. He's gotta get

2626
02:12:54,200 --> 02:12:57,480
Speaker 25: that ball out of there right away. Watch the bat

2627
02:12:57,680 --> 02:13:00,440
Speaker 25: the keep at the back. Watch he's coming over by

2628
02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:02,400
Speaker 25: the time you get some bottles and back skin and

2629
02:13:02,560 --> 02:13:04,480
Speaker 25: directly right in front of them, right as soon as

2630
02:13:04,520 --> 02:13:07,040
Speaker 25: that right away, guy, and he's in there.

2631
02:13:07,120 --> 02:13:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, No, you're fine, Bob on that, and I

2632
02:13:11,360 --> 02:13:13,320
Speaker 2: would tend to agree with you, Eric and I mentioned

2633
02:13:13,320 --> 02:13:16,480
Speaker 2: it on the broadcast. Josh floats the ball out there,

2634
02:13:16,760 --> 02:13:19,480
Speaker 2: he's got to zip it to him, number one, and

2635
02:13:19,520 --> 02:13:21,640
Speaker 2: he's got to put it on his chest number two.

2636
02:13:21,680 --> 02:13:23,680
Speaker 2: It's got to be in his hands so he has

2637
02:13:23,720 --> 02:13:25,960
Speaker 2: it fast enough to then turn up field and then

2638
02:13:26,080 --> 02:13:27,160
Speaker 2: size up the defender.

2639
02:13:27,280 --> 02:13:29,560
Speaker 4: There's a couple of things. If he's he jumps to

2640
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:31,879
Speaker 4: catch it, so he's airborne, so we can't change directions

2641
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:34,400
Speaker 4: while he's airborne. And if Josh really wanted to do

2642
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:37,040
Speaker 4: Josh tried to pull the dB away with his eyes

2643
02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 4: by keeping him in the middle of field, didn't come

2644
02:13:38,600 --> 02:13:40,680
Speaker 4: there late. If he would have planted a foot and

2645
02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:43,000
Speaker 4: gave a hard pump fake to a slant route or

2646
02:13:43,040 --> 02:13:45,520
Speaker 4: whatever is over the cost, that defensive back might have

2647
02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:47,800
Speaker 4: froze and then he could have put it on Shakir

2648
02:13:47,840 --> 02:13:50,720
Speaker 4: a different way. But yeah, I mean, there's always a

2649
02:13:50,760 --> 02:13:53,440
Speaker 4: way to overcome the defense after the fact, but you

2650
02:13:53,480 --> 02:13:55,920
Speaker 4: got to do it the first try. And when they

2651
02:13:55,920 --> 02:13:58,560
Speaker 4: get a pass like that, Shakir to me, had a

2652
02:13:58,600 --> 02:14:03,200
Speaker 4: little more time to get from to make that guy miss.

2653
02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:04,640
Speaker 4: You gotta make that guy miss.

2654
02:14:04,760 --> 02:14:08,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, got u zinging in not floated. Uh, we're just

2655
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:11,879
Speaker 2: about out of time here. We've got dan Orlobsky tomorrow

2656
02:14:12,160 --> 02:14:15,240
Speaker 2: on his weekly visit as he will break down this

2657
02:14:15,360 --> 02:14:17,640
Speaker 2: game for us, and we'll also have him focus on

2658
02:14:17,680 --> 02:14:19,840
Speaker 2: the Giants coming up as we look forward to the

2659
02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:23,560
Speaker 2: week six matchup on Sunday Night Football. Steve and I'll

2660
02:14:23,600 --> 02:14:27,480
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow at one