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Speaker 2: It's time for Bachelor headlines.
Speaker 3: Goodness, gracious, Ashley, I think this headlines episode might have
Speaker 3: some of the juiciest and most action packed headlines that.
Speaker 2: We've ever had.
Speaker 4: Well one of them, for sure, I can. I will
Speaker 4: agree with you.
Speaker 3: On I think in general, just we have a lot
Speaker 3: of headlines here that are newsworthy and that our listeners
Speaker 3: will be excited.
Speaker 2: To hear about.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's go for it.
Speaker 3: We're gonna start with this one because I just don't
Speaker 3: think it's true, but it is a rumor and if
Speaker 3: you follow any Bachelor adjacent social media platform or website,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be brought up and talked about. And I
Speaker 3: want to bring it up here and talk about it
Speaker 3: with all of you so you hear our thoughts on
Speaker 3: the matter. The headline is this Grant is no longer
Speaker 3: the Bachelor. This has been a rumor being spread now
Speaker 3: over the last three days. Ashley, what do we know?
Speaker 4: Okay? So when I saw this rumor, I texted our
Speaker 4: group and I was like, Okay, well we have to
Speaker 4: do a breaking news podcast on this. It was like
Speaker 4: why and so interesting I thought like, oh, okay, so
Speaker 4: maybe something came out about his past and they can't
Speaker 4: get over it. That's what the rumor's saying. There's something,
Speaker 4: some information has come up to production and they won't
Speaker 4: be able to go forward with him because of that.
Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, all right, that's not
Speaker 4: too far fetched. And then I was also thinking, oh,
Speaker 4: or is it because they're obsessed with how much attention
Speaker 4: Jonathan's getting and they're just going to move Jonathan to
Speaker 4: the lead. They're going to pretend as if like something
Speaker 4: came up, but really it's because they wanted a new
Speaker 4: lead based on the amount of attention Jonathan's been getting
Speaker 4: on social media with all of his appearances with jen
Speaker 4: in La because they're really playing though would they are
Speaker 4: they or are they not game? And then I woke
Speaker 4: up to something this morning and I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: now that I like am bummed that it seems to
Speaker 4: be totally false, you know that I think it's I
Speaker 4: think that Grant seems like lovely, but he's just not
Speaker 4: a very exciting choice for Bachelor anyway. Bachelor Data did
Speaker 4: a video today about the sourcing of this rumor. The
Speaker 4: rumor is like in certain locations that seem like kind
Speaker 4: of like legit publications, but then they keep re routing
Speaker 4: people to this like they'll highlight it, you know, they'll
Speaker 4: link it. Be like this website is reporting, and then
Speaker 4: when you go to the crux of the rumor and
Speaker 4: the original article or the started it's like the least
Speaker 4: reliable source. Ever. It's basically an ad site like this.
Speaker 4: This website has nothing but like scammy ads, like scammy
Speaker 4: like sex ads and stuff, so it looks like it's
Speaker 4: not true. So guys, Grant is still your bad. There
Speaker 4: are comments that are interesting underneath some of the rumor posts,
Speaker 4: like we have Zachary Reality posting his own you know
Speaker 4: TikTok about the rumor, and here are some quotes from
Speaker 4: underneath his posts and from Reddit. I have it on
Speaker 4: good authority this could be satire. I have it on
Speaker 4: good authority that Jesse and the producers are in talks
Speaker 4: with Tommy DeVito. You'd be the backup quarterback for the
Speaker 4: Giants for his own season. His mom's chicken cut, Let's
Speaker 4: deserve a hometown episode. Maybe that's why Grant is on pause. Listen,
Speaker 4: this would be a dream. I love this as a
Speaker 4: Giants fan and they're just floundering year after year. This
Speaker 4: would bring light to my life. I don't think it's true.
Speaker 4: Then somebody else said, I'm skeptical when it's Zachary Reality.
Speaker 4: He's been writing about a few things. But maybe, yeah,
Speaker 4: this doesn't seem right. And that's what Bachelor Data said.
Speaker 4: She was like, listen, if it's somebody like Reality Steve,
Speaker 4: who's had it right in the past, that would be
Speaker 4: there'd be more smoke to this story.
Speaker 3: It's always interesting to see these rumors spread. Now, yes,
Speaker 3: I don't think it's true. I think it's a spam. However,
Speaker 3: the you know those weird magazines that you see at
Speaker 3: grocery stores that always have the rumors that seem outrageous
Speaker 3: and untrue and no way believable.
Speaker 4: Ninety right, you said fifty.
Speaker 3: Percent of the time those rumors end up coming true.
Speaker 3: Fifty percent they don't. However, I do think that in
Speaker 3: this case, where there's smoke, there's fire. I do too,
Speaker 3: and I'm not saying I don't think it's at any
Speaker 3: level true. However, I would not be shocked, not be
Speaker 3: shocked at all, if at least at some point somebody
Speaker 3: in the know has had a conversation going, Hey, was
Speaker 3: this the best choice or is there another way to
Speaker 3: do this? I do think Grant, if they stick with Grant,
Speaker 3: will be a great bachelor. He's gotten a lot of love.
Speaker 3: I just don't think we know him. So I'm wondering
Speaker 3: if the show is going, if if we have the
Speaker 3: opportunity to get somebody that the audience would maybe be
Speaker 3: more knowledgeable of, is this our time to do it?
Speaker 4: Exactly what I was thinking, Like, there might be a
Speaker 4: little something out there that is not like the best,
Speaker 4: because they want their bachelor to basically be like you Ben,
Speaker 4: totally like a pristine background check, and if there's like
Speaker 4: a story or two circulating around him, they may think
Speaker 4: of it, or at least one person, and that higher
Speaker 4: ups might be like, oh, this could be our out.
Speaker 2: I still stop sign once he's stole a stuff.
Speaker 4: You Also, you know we always talk about how Booby's
Speaker 4: and cocaine or whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did find a bunch of cocaine on the
Speaker 3: beach ones, but that actually like helps my background.
Speaker 4: You were actually like you turned it in.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't even try to take advantage of that one.
Speaker 4: Hey, way, Ben Ben about Grant for one more second. Okay,
Speaker 4: do you want to talk about how you feel his
Speaker 4: job is a little interesting because he's a day trader.
Speaker 3: He's kind of confronted that, and I think, okay, he
Speaker 3: did it on a social media a little while back,
Speaker 3: talking through some of his strategies.
Speaker 2: He is a day trader.
Speaker 4: So like in your opinion, you think it's like kind
Speaker 4: of like a professional gambler. It really it's risky.
Speaker 3: It's risky and without the right backing, without any type
Speaker 3: of middle and back office checking you and making sure
Speaker 3: that you're compliant, making sure also maybe he does I
Speaker 3: have no clue that he has the capital to you know,
Speaker 3: hedge and to trade on margins. It's a really risky business.
Speaker 3: His strategies were even like very just they weren't like
Speaker 3: a very like.
Speaker 4: Financial aiser, like an actual.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he was just kind of you know, trading
Speaker 3: some options and showing his options progress.
Speaker 4: And isn't that okay if you're just doing it for yourself?
Speaker 2: Oh, none of it's. None of it's not okay. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: none of it's not okay.
Speaker 4: It's not like he's dealing with other people's finesses.
Speaker 3: Without right Well, he couldn't like he couldn't you have
Speaker 3: to have licensing to deal with somebody else's or to
Speaker 3: even give any advice. It's not not okay, I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that at all. It's just a very risky thing to
Speaker 3: say that you're doing for a living. Now, some people
Speaker 3: make it, and I'm assuming he is because he he
Speaker 3: seems to be a very like, you know, just well
Speaker 3: off person right now.
Speaker 2: But you don't know.
Speaker 3: You don't know until you kind of dig deep. I
Speaker 3: will just say I was working in finance for six years.
Speaker 3: I never I've never yet met a day trader that
Speaker 3: does it for a hobby, that makes a living on it.
Speaker 2: It is really hard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know somebody who makes a very good living
Speaker 4: off of it, Well, good for them. But this person
Speaker 4: also has like the best luck I've ever seen in
Speaker 4: my life.
Speaker 3: So it's just innarest thing. I was curious when he
Speaker 3: originally announced his job. I was like, I just want
Speaker 3: to know more about it. He did confront on Instagram
Speaker 3: and I go, Okay, he's doing it. I mean, that's cool.
Speaker 2: I got it. He knows what he's doing and I'm.
Speaker 3: Happy for him, and I hope it's so it's super successful.
Speaker 3: The next headline is another big one this week. Devin
Speaker 3: continues just to take a shovel and not even slowly.
Speaker 3: He like intentionally digs bigger and bigger and bigger and
Speaker 3: bigger holes, and he just kind of likes to bury
Speaker 3: himself in him. It feels like his strategy is to
Speaker 3: how often can I hit rock bottom? And then how
Speaker 3: much farther can I push to make rock Bottom look
Speaker 3: a little different than it did before?
Speaker 2: And let me just keep doing it until.
Speaker 3: Everybody just kind of has low expectations of what's going
Speaker 3: to happen and they stop worrying about it.
Speaker 2: He's trying to, I don't know, clean his name up.
Speaker 2: It just ain't working.
Speaker 4: He really doesn't get it, Like he does not get
Speaker 4: how to work an audience. Like I'm just I'm thinking
Speaker 4: about this from a PR's a PR reps point of
Speaker 4: view when I say this, like if he really like
Speaker 4: he obviously didn't didn't work out with Jen right, but
Speaker 4: there were so many ways that he could have made
Speaker 4: it seem so much more pleasant on after the Final
Speaker 4: Rose in so many ways, and then this move I
Speaker 4: need to know who we talk about Ashley Oh, the
Speaker 4: move in which he released a thirteen minute video to
Speaker 4: Instagram and TikTok explaining why or giving some addition little
Speaker 4: reasoning behind their breakup, including you know, like all like
Speaker 4: the texts and call receipts. He was trying to make
Speaker 4: it seem like there was so much more that you
Speaker 4: guys didn't see after the final rose and I wasn't
Speaker 4: as bad to her, you know, in lacking of communication
Speaker 4: as she made it seem.
Speaker 3: Yeah, within that thirteen minute video he explained himself. He
Speaker 3: also revealed some very personal text messages.
Speaker 4: The craziest part about the video to me is this
Speaker 4: one like slide show in which he basically screenshoted every
Speaker 4: single text that they've ever had, and he put them
Speaker 4: in like rapid order. It was like half I wouldn't
Speaker 4: even say, I don't even know it was okay, maybe
Speaker 4: half a second there was a screenshot, and there must
Speaker 4: have been like thirty screenshot and they went by really
Speaker 4: really fast. There was one text that made it into
Speaker 4: a screenshot that was kind of sexual, and so therefore
Speaker 4: he thought, oh, that part I need to edit out.
Speaker 4: Of course, I mean like yeah, yes, but the humor
Speaker 4: in this is that he just thought that that was
Speaker 4: the one part he needed to edit and it wasn't
Speaker 4: just the whole thirteen second video, so deleted it thirty minutes. Sorry,
Speaker 4: he deleted it, and he re uploaded it without that
Speaker 4: screenshot in it, but that, you know, but still thought
Speaker 4: after releasing the video and getting probably some feedback, enough
Speaker 4: feedback for the people watched that screenshot slide show in
Speaker 4: detail enough that they caught that, and then he was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna upload that video all over again.
Speaker 3: There's this level I think now we've spent a few
Speaker 3: times in Bachelor Nation where people upload personal conversations text
Speaker 3: messages to the.
Speaker 4: Public, most notably Blank and Kalin.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, and I think you know, I see this,
Speaker 3: and I understand why they're being I understand why they're
Speaker 3: being posted because it does feel like the receipts, it
Speaker 3: does feel like your truth. It does feel like it's
Speaker 3: what you have to prove that, Hey, the story that
Speaker 3: you're hearing isn't maybe the full story. I understand the
Speaker 3: urge and the desire to post those. However, I do
Speaker 3: believe those are private conversations. I do not think they
Speaker 3: should be posted to the public. However, they are used
Speaker 3: in the court of law. So if you know for
Speaker 3: whatever reason. If we have a scenario where somebody has
Speaker 3: to go to trial, typically phone email, all those records
Speaker 3: are presented, and so I know why people are doing it.
Speaker 3: In this case specifically, it was inappropriate. There was no
Speaker 3: reasoning for it, and the text messages didn't prove anything.
Speaker 3: In fact, I'm still confused after watching this thirteen minute
Speaker 3: video on what Devin is exactly trying to prove. I
Speaker 3: don't know what his I think he's trying to prove
Speaker 3: that he wasn't as bad as what it seemed on
Speaker 3: national television. However, most of the things said during the
Speaker 3: final episode were proven to be true based on these
Speaker 3: text messages. Yes there was a ghosting, Yes there was
Speaker 3: a lack of communication. Yes there was kind of a
Speaker 3: giving up. It felt like sentiment from this video all
Speaker 3: I want. And really, Devin didn't have to apologize or
Speaker 3: come public with any of this, and I know he
Speaker 3: wanted to to clear his name and try to get
Speaker 3: back in the good graces, even though I think that
Speaker 3: was probably impossible at this point. I want when somebody
Speaker 3: tries to do this Sidney, for example, Devin here as
Speaker 3: of recent I just want authenticity. I don't want you
Speaker 3: to throw anybody else under the bus. I don't want
Speaker 3: you to try to pit it me versus. Then I
Speaker 3: don't want this tongue in cheek. Hey, I'm not trying
Speaker 3: to hurt jin here, I'm just trying to get you know,
Speaker 3: my words out.
Speaker 2: I don't want any of that.
Speaker 3: I want the ownership and what and what you had
Speaker 3: to do with the failure of this relationship. I also
Speaker 3: want the authenticity of saying I am sorry for how
Speaker 3: this went down. I could have done better, and then
Speaker 3: we all say, hey, I've been there too, I get it.
Speaker 2: We move on.
Speaker 3: But this new kind of trend of when you get
Speaker 3: you know, when something bad happens to you in the
Speaker 3: public and your only way out is to blame somebody
Speaker 3: else or to try to bring them back into the controversy.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 3: It's not right, it's not healthy, and it typically leads
Speaker 3: to really destructive behavior, which this thirteen minute video was.
Speaker 3: It did nothing to help him. There is no there,
Speaker 3: there's nothing about this. I'm sure there's a fut rolls
Speaker 3: on Instagram that are like, I get it, Devin, I'm
Speaker 3: on your time. For the most part, this did nothing
Speaker 3: to help him. I just think it could have been
Speaker 3: done so much better. I'm wondering where ABC's at and
Speaker 3: all this. I'm hoping ABC is sitting there saying as
Speaker 3: a publicity team saying, hey, Devin, uh, let's sit down
Speaker 3: and talk like you want.
Speaker 2: To get your story out.
Speaker 3: Can't stop you from doing that. However, here's some ways
Speaker 3: that we would advise you to do that in a
Speaker 3: healthy way to not hurt you Jin or anybody else.
Speaker 3: But it seems like he had nobody he was talking
Speaker 3: to and it has.
Speaker 4: Nothing to do with the show. So I don't even
Speaker 4: think he would need to get approval. Obviously, he didn't
Speaker 4: need to get approval to pose that because it's all
Speaker 4: about what happened in the summer. It's just I I
Speaker 4: need to know what was going through his head and
Speaker 4: who he showed. Did he show anyone that video beforehand?
Speaker 4: Because that had some editing that needed to be done.
Speaker 4: That is that is a video that like, I'm sure
Speaker 4: he put it together himself, But I also wouldn't have
Speaker 4: been surprised if he had like some friends around him
Speaker 4: being like, yeah, yeah, this is a good move, like
Speaker 4: somebody had to encourage it. I just can't imagine him
Speaker 4: in his own power. Yeah, he's like, I'm going to
Speaker 4: post this thirteen minute video without telling anybody else.
Speaker 3: He needs like a group of advisors now around him,
Speaker 3: Like he needs two or three of his close friends
Speaker 3: that I hope he has, Yeah, that I hope he has,
Speaker 3: being like, Hey, here's what I'm thinking, What do you
Speaker 3: guys think of this decision? And for them to not
Speaker 3: just think of what Devin wants to hear, but what
Speaker 3: he needs to hear, which is, hey, don't do it,
Speaker 3: like stay, don't do that, be authentic, be genuine, and
Speaker 3: that's about as far as you should go, Like that's it.
Speaker 3: Don't try to bring Jim back into it. Don't definitely
Speaker 3: don't show private conversations for of the two of you.
Speaker 3: That's not going to help anything. That actually is just
Speaker 3: like wrong, especially at this point. And just try to
Speaker 3: keep moving forward and become a little better man and
Speaker 3: learn from this. There's a lot of learning that can
Speaker 3: be done from this, but it right now that learning
Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be taking place.
Speaker 4: Has posting receipts ever worked out in the favor of
Speaker 4: the person posting the receipts or people always just think like,
Speaker 4: oh that was Cura Quinn. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: but no, because he called her bad things in there,
Speaker 4: and then he his winning was winning the paternity test.
Speaker 4: But I think him posting the receipts and the text
Speaker 4: messages never helped. It made him just look She may
Speaker 4: have looked pretty pretty crazy, but that was also in
Speaker 4: the long run, and we were proven that she well
Speaker 4: was crazy because she made up the fact that she
Speaker 4: was pregnant. But he didn't look good in those texts
Speaker 4: and it had nothing to do with him being proven
Speaker 4: innocent at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't have many examples, but I don't also know
Speaker 3: many people doing this, so there's only a select few.
Speaker 4: Did Blake look better or posting those texts between him
Speaker 4: and Kaylin after that paradise?
Speaker 3: I don't think it helped him hundred percent. People don't
Speaker 3: like it, and it just feels invasive. It is invasive.
Speaker 3: I shouldn't be reading what the two of you have
Speaker 3: said to each other like I should not be, especially
Speaker 3: when it comes.
Speaker 4: To a romantic relationship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I should not be.
Speaker 3: I should not be reading that like you guys should
Speaker 3: keep those between you and you can tell me, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, it felt like in our relationship we went
Speaker 3: through seasons of excitement, and then we went through really
Speaker 3: bad season, and then we went through a season where
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like we could talk anymore because our
Speaker 3: communication is off. I just don't I don't need to
Speaker 3: read your conversation on how you got there. Yeah, half
Speaker 3: the time text messages don't make sense to me anyways.
Speaker 3: I'm not good at that.
Speaker 4: I just will never understand what he was thinking and
Speaker 4: doing that.
Speaker 2: No, I can't either, but I do.
Speaker 4: I do understand the internal frustration that you go through
Speaker 4: with like a storyline on TV doesn't come across the
Speaker 4: way that you feel like you lived it and that
Speaker 4: you like think that you have proof that it was otherwise.
Speaker 4: So like the desire to put it out there, I
Speaker 4: do understand the desire, but like you need to let
Speaker 4: your pr brain just win out in that situation.
Speaker 3: Well, I think the pr brain or just there's a
Speaker 3: lack of maturity. This is an immature act. This is
Speaker 3: something that like him at thirty whatever and a middle
Speaker 3: schooler at thirteen are are doing the same thing. Like
Speaker 3: this is this is an act that was immature. It
Speaker 3: should be you should take two steps up and say,
Speaker 3: as an adult, I refuse to do this no matter
Speaker 3: what it will look like or no matter what kind
Speaker 3: of heat. Right, you and I have both sat in
Speaker 3: seasons within this whole show where we're like, you know,
Speaker 3: it would be so much better if everybody just knew
Speaker 3: the actual truth and we could. You know, you like,
Speaker 3: I have the truth, but you have to take a
Speaker 3: step back and you have to say no. But this
Speaker 3: is like that doesn't matter to me. The winning here
Speaker 3: isn't a thing. I just have to move forward and
Speaker 3: take a little bit of the heat, get kicked a
Speaker 3: little bit, maybe that person gets kicked around a little bit,
Speaker 3: but we'll all move forward and it's gonna be okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the audience will forget in that moment. It's
Speaker 4: just like your whole life.
Speaker 3: I think the audience had already forgotten and she brought
Speaker 3: it right back up again. I think the audience were like,
Speaker 3: I'm just excited to watch Joan and now all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, Devn's back in the headlines.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know, you probably think differently than me. You
Speaker 4: probably think like, no, you go back to your regular
Speaker 4: life and you do whatever you were doing. Your job
Speaker 4: seem to be working for you. But if I just
Speaker 4: think that if you really wanted you just go on paradise, dude,
Speaker 4: and then you make sure that you're not done again.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know what, people also love to hate a villain,
Speaker 4: so like you'll get your working either way.
Speaker 3: We love a comeback story on to better stories. We
Speaker 3: were with this person this last week. We knew about
Speaker 3: this actually before it got announced publicly. I would like
Speaker 3: to make a public statement to Katie to say, Hey,
Speaker 3: I just want you to recognize that Ashley and myself
Speaker 3: both respected your request to keep.
Speaker 2: This private.
Speaker 3: Even though I wanted to share it so bad because
Speaker 3: it is so exciting and we are excited for her
Speaker 3: former bachelor at Katie Thurston is engaged to Jeff Arcurry
Speaker 3: after less than one year of dating. She explained this
Speaker 3: a little bit to us in person. It's just the
Speaker 3: right person for her to kind of close out the
Speaker 3: headline Ashley. I started following her now fiance on Instagram yesterday.
Speaker 4: He has one point five million.
Speaker 2: She's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say his His Instagram is hilarious. It
Speaker 3: is a good follow his act is awesome, his way
Speaker 3: of communicating with the audience is brilliant.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I've loved just kind of scrolling through his videos after
Speaker 3: the last day. So I'm excited for Katie and Jeff.
Speaker 3: She's been on I'll say this, she's been on a
Speaker 3: wild dating journey on the show and after the show. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's cool to see her now coming out, not
Speaker 3: coming out of it, but coming through it into a
Speaker 3: place where she seems so happy.
Speaker 4: It's so crazy, how like, Yeah, it's been eight months,
Speaker 4: but I feel like we were just speculating about her
Speaker 4: and Blake possibly getting together like yesterday, remember, because they've
Speaker 4: been seen at events and stuff. Sure, and they had
Speaker 4: that whole Bachelor in Paradise thing last year and then
Speaker 4: she had f Boy Island. Look at her dating, her
Speaker 4: dating history and just to pass the year.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: So yeah, she was so cute at Alan's wedding. We were,
Speaker 4: you know, in our was like saying they're hello. She's like, Hi,
Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm engaged. Like she was showing her finger
Speaker 4: to everybody. She's like, it happened a couple of days
Speaker 4: ago in Hawaii. It happened on a secret beach in Kawaii, Hawaii,
Speaker 4: on August twenty sixth, And they have been having a
Speaker 4: long distance relationship, but that will be coming to an
Speaker 4: end soon because she's going to be moving to New
Speaker 4: York City in early twenty twenty five. And she confirmed
Speaker 4: the She confirmed their relationship actually just recently is in May.
Speaker 4: But yeah, when you know, you know, and they're so
Speaker 4: excited to spend forever together. And this is like kind
Speaker 4: of cool because this is one of those stories that
Speaker 4: if it weren't for the Bachelorette, who knows if this
Speaker 4: would have happened, because she got into comedy to start
Speaker 4: doing stand up because of her bachelorette notoriety, and now
Speaker 4: she found her her boo through the comedy circuit.
Speaker 3: It's really exciting, really happy for Katie and if, yeah,
Speaker 3: if you're kind of bored today and you want to
Speaker 3: get laugh go follow her fiance on social media. Carly
Speaker 3: Wadell opens up about undiagnosed health issues. She finally said this,
Speaker 3: I finally have answers.
Speaker 4: So she has been dealing with something that's even affecting
Speaker 4: her voice. And if you've been following Carly at all
Speaker 4: in the past year or so, she's really been focusing
Speaker 4: on music. She was opening up for Nick Carter on tour,
Speaker 4: which is really cool. But she said she finally went
Speaker 4: to the e andt ear nos and throat doctor, after
Speaker 4: over twenty years of having episodes where my throat seems
Speaker 4: to completely close up for a good thirty seconds. That
Speaker 4: is so scary And why did it take you twenty
Speaker 4: years to do that, Carly? She said, it used to
Speaker 4: happen only a few times a year, but in the
Speaker 4: past few years has happened as much as three times
Speaker 4: a day. Scary not only for me, but anyone around
Speaker 4: me when this happens, because it seems like, because it
Speaker 4: looks like I should be doing somebody should be doing
Speaker 4: the Heimel like maneuver on me while tears stream down
Speaker 4: my face and I am gasping to breathe. She has
Speaker 4: spasms in her throat that bring her to like these
Speaker 4: undiagnosed asthma, seasonal allergies, and even acid reflux. That's what this.
Speaker 4: These spasms are brought on by asthma, allergies and reflux,
Speaker 4: and they also happen to women more than men, sometimes
Speaker 4: more often with the women that have anxiety because they
Speaker 4: tend to be hidden the kidd in a way. So yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what she's going through. That's really scary. That's really
Speaker 4: really scary.
Speaker 2: I didn't know she was opening up for Nick Carter
Speaker 2: on tour.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, is that cool?
Speaker 2: That is cool? Good for her? Uh the U I
Speaker 2: think I saw this week? Ashley. Tell me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: her former her.
Speaker 4: Ex, Evan has a new girlfriend.
Speaker 2: Has a new girlfriend, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't really know why I Evan even make it.
Speaker 4: That's pretty crazy that Evan would make a headline. But
Speaker 4: I saw that as well. We feel I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to be shady, but.
Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, there's some shade there. But
Speaker 3: it feels like Carl has a lot to talk about
Speaker 3: right now. I wonder if she'd be willing to come
Speaker 3: on and talk about obviously this new diagnosis along with
Speaker 3: a really exciting conversation of what is going on with Evan.
Speaker 3: And then Carly has a boyfriend.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Carly did talk to us about her well,
Speaker 4: she teased that she had a boyfriend last time she
Speaker 4: was on Okay, and they've been together for I want
Speaker 4: to say a little bit over a year now. I
Speaker 4: think it's serious. I think they're going to get engaged.
Speaker 4: We will see, Yeah, we can. We should talk to
Speaker 4: her about this this health issues. Evan has had other
Speaker 4: girlfriends in the past couple of years.
Speaker 3: You just jumped from health issues to Evan again. You
Speaker 3: can't get en off your mind.
Speaker 4: Good I don't know if he was dating like someone
Speaker 4: relatively like like Insta war, you know, like if he
Speaker 4: was dating like an influencer or like somebody who is famous.
Speaker 4: I could see it making headlines. But Van Bass's new girlfriend,
Speaker 4: I don't know. He's definitely dated since they broke up.
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, Well, that's all the headlines for you today. Again,
Speaker 3: I said it. I thought you guys some big headlines. Obviously,
Speaker 3: we just talked about Carly the Devin thirteen minute wild video,
Speaker 3: along with Katie Thurston getting engaged. There's just a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of headlines here to run through and
Speaker 3: a lot of things to talk about. I want to
Speaker 3: make it clear. I think Grant is our next bachelor,
Speaker 3: and until I improven otherwise, I'm going to believe that,
Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna be a great bachelor. I think, though,
Speaker 3: these rumors are always worth bringing up because how embarrassing
Speaker 3: would it be if we never talked about it, We
Speaker 3: never even brought it up, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: this little weird rumor becomes true, would be so embarrassing for.
Speaker 4: Us, so embarrassing to not be on top of things. Also,
Speaker 4: his seasons like set to start within the next week,
Speaker 4: so it would be a really last minute change. And
Speaker 4: happy tenth anniversary to me being part of the Bachelor
Speaker 4: franchise because it's this week, should have been ten years
Speaker 4: ago that it all started, that I pulled up in
Speaker 4: that limo. That is the most handsome man I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to be clear, Chris Soles was her Bachelor,
Speaker 3: not me. Hey, until next time, I've been Then I've been.
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