1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: It's time for Bachelor headlines. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: Goodness, gracious, Ashley, I think this headlines episode might have 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 3: some of the juiciest and most action packed headlines that. 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: We've ever had. 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 4: Well one of them, for sure, I can. I will 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 4: agree with you. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: On I think in general, just we have a lot 10 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: of headlines here that are newsworthy and that our listeners 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 3: will be excited. 12 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: To hear about. 13 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 4: Okay, let's go for it. 14 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 3: We're gonna start with this one because I just don't 15 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: think it's true, but it is a rumor and if 16 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: you follow any Bachelor adjacent social media platform or website, 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 3: it's gonna be brought up and talked about. And I 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 3: want to bring it up here and talk about it 19 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: with all of you so you hear our thoughts on 20 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 3: the matter. The headline is this Grant is no longer 21 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 3: the Bachelor. This has been a rumor being spread now 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 3: over the last three days. Ashley, what do we know? 23 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 4: Okay? So when I saw this rumor, I texted our 24 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 4: group and I was like, Okay, well we have to 25 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 4: do a breaking news podcast on this. It was like 26 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 4: why and so interesting I thought like, oh, okay, so 27 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 4: maybe something came out about his past and they can't 28 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 4: get over it. That's what the rumor's saying. There's something, 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 4: some information has come up to production and they won't 30 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 4: be able to go forward with him because of that. 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, all right, that's not 32 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 4: too far fetched. And then I was also thinking, oh, 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 4: or is it because they're obsessed with how much attention 34 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: Jonathan's getting and they're just going to move Jonathan to 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,919 Speaker 4: the lead. They're going to pretend as if like something 36 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 4: came up, but really it's because they wanted a new 37 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 4: lead based on the amount of attention Jonathan's been getting 38 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: on social media with all of his appearances with jen 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 4: in La because they're really playing though would they are 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 4: they or are they not game? And then I woke 41 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 4: up to something this morning and I was like, oh, okay, 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: now that I like am bummed that it seems to 43 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 4: be totally false, you know that I think it's I 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: think that Grant seems like lovely, but he's just not 45 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: a very exciting choice for Bachelor anyway. Bachelor Data did 46 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: a video today about the sourcing of this rumor. The 47 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: rumor is like in certain locations that seem like kind 48 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 4: of like legit publications, but then they keep re routing 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 4: people to this like they'll highlight it, you know, they'll 50 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 4: link it. Be like this website is reporting, and then 51 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 4: when you go to the crux of the rumor and 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 4: the original article or the started it's like the least 53 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 4: reliable source. Ever. It's basically an ad site like this. 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: This website has nothing but like scammy ads, like scammy 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 4: like sex ads and stuff, so it looks like it's 56 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: not true. So guys, Grant is still your bad. There 57 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: are comments that are interesting underneath some of the rumor posts, 58 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: like we have Zachary Reality posting his own you know 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: TikTok about the rumor, and here are some quotes from 60 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 4: underneath his posts and from Reddit. I have it on 61 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: good authority this could be satire. I have it on 62 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: good authority that Jesse and the producers are in talks 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: with Tommy DeVito. You'd be the backup quarterback for the 64 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: Giants for his own season. His mom's chicken cut, Let's 65 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 4: deserve a hometown episode. Maybe that's why Grant is on pause. Listen, 66 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 4: this would be a dream. I love this as a 67 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 4: Giants fan and they're just floundering year after year. This 68 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: would bring light to my life. I don't think it's true. 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 4: Then somebody else said, I'm skeptical when it's Zachary Reality. 70 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 4: He's been writing about a few things. But maybe, yeah, 71 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: this doesn't seem right. And that's what Bachelor Data said. 72 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 4: She was like, listen, if it's somebody like Reality Steve, 73 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 4: who's had it right in the past, that would be 74 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 4: there'd be more smoke to this story. 75 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: It's always interesting to see these rumors spread. Now, yes, 76 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: I don't think it's true. I think it's a spam. However, 77 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: the you know those weird magazines that you see at 78 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: grocery stores that always have the rumors that seem outrageous 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: and untrue and no way believable. 80 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: Ninety right, you said fifty. 81 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: Percent of the time those rumors end up coming true. 82 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 3: Fifty percent they don't. However, I do think that in 83 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: this case, where there's smoke, there's fire. I do too, 84 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: and I'm not saying I don't think it's at any 85 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 3: level true. However, I would not be shocked, not be 86 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: shocked at all, if at least at some point somebody 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: in the know has had a conversation going, Hey, was 88 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: this the best choice or is there another way to 89 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 3: do this? I do think Grant, if they stick with Grant, 90 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: will be a great bachelor. He's gotten a lot of love. 91 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: I just don't think we know him. So I'm wondering 92 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 3: if the show is going, if if we have the 93 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 3: opportunity to get somebody that the audience would maybe be 94 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: more knowledgeable of, is this our time to do it? 95 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: Exactly what I was thinking, Like, there might be a 96 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 4: little something out there that is not like the best, 97 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 4: because they want their bachelor to basically be like you Ben, 98 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: totally like a pristine background check, and if there's like 99 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 4: a story or two circulating around him, they may think 100 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: of it, or at least one person, and that higher 101 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: ups might be like, oh, this could be our out. 102 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 2: I still stop sign once he's stole a stuff. 103 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: You Also, you know we always talk about how Booby's 104 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 4: and cocaine or whatever. 105 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did find a bunch of cocaine on the 106 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: beach ones, but that actually like helps my background. 107 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: You were actually like you turned it in. 108 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't even try to take advantage of that one. 109 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 4: Hey, way, Ben Ben about Grant for one more second. Okay, 110 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 4: do you want to talk about how you feel his 111 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: job is a little interesting because he's a day trader. 112 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: He's kind of confronted that, and I think, okay, he 113 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,679 Speaker 3: did it on a social media a little while back, 114 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 3: talking through some of his strategies. 115 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: He is a day trader. 116 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: So like in your opinion, you think it's like kind 117 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 4: of like a professional gambler. It really it's risky. 118 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 3: It's risky and without the right backing, without any type 119 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: of middle and back office checking you and making sure 120 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 3: that you're compliant, making sure also maybe he does I 121 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: have no clue that he has the capital to you know, 122 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 3: hedge and to trade on margins. It's a really risky business. 123 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: His strategies were even like very just they weren't like 124 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 3: a very like. 125 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: Financial aiser, like an actual. 126 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, like he was just kind of you know, trading 127 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: some options and showing his options progress. 128 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 4: And isn't that okay if you're just doing it for yourself? 129 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 2: Oh, none of it's. None of it's not okay. Yeah, Like, 130 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 2: none of it's not okay. 131 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 4: It's not like he's dealing with other people's finesses. 132 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: Without right Well, he couldn't like he couldn't you have 133 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: to have licensing to deal with somebody else's or to 134 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: even give any advice. It's not not okay, I'm not 135 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: saying that at all. It's just a very risky thing to 136 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: say that you're doing for a living. Now, some people 137 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: make it, and I'm assuming he is because he he 138 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: seems to be a very like, you know, just well 139 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: off person right now. 140 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: But you don't know. 141 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 3: You don't know until you kind of dig deep. I 142 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: will just say I was working in finance for six years. 143 00:07:53,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: I never I've never yet met a day trader that 144 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: does it for a hobby, that makes a living on it. 145 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: It is really hard. 146 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know somebody who makes a very good living 147 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 4: off of it, Well, good for them. But this person 148 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 4: also has like the best luck I've ever seen in 149 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 4: my life. 150 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: So it's just innarest thing. I was curious when he 151 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: originally announced his job. I was like, I just want 152 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: to know more about it. He did confront on Instagram 153 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 3: and I go, Okay, he's doing it. I mean, that's cool. 154 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: I got it. He knows what he's doing and I'm. 155 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: Happy for him, and I hope it's so it's super successful. 156 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: The next headline is another big one this week. Devin 157 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: continues just to take a shovel and not even slowly. 158 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: He like intentionally digs bigger and bigger and bigger and 159 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: bigger holes, and he just kind of likes to bury 160 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: himself in him. It feels like his strategy is to 161 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 3: how often can I hit rock bottom? And then how 162 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 3: much farther can I push to make rock Bottom look 163 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: a little different than it did before? 164 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 2: And let me just keep doing it until. 165 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 3: Everybody just kind of has low expectations of what's going 166 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: to happen and they stop worrying about it. 167 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: He's trying to, I don't know, clean his name up. 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: It just ain't working. 169 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: He really doesn't get it, Like he does not get 170 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 4: how to work an audience. Like I'm just I'm thinking 171 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: about this from a PR's a PR reps point of 172 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 4: view when I say this, like if he really like 173 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 4: he obviously didn't didn't work out with Jen right, but 174 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 4: there were so many ways that he could have made 175 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 4: it seem so much more pleasant on after the Final 176 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: Rose in so many ways, and then this move I 177 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 4: need to know who we talk about Ashley Oh, the 178 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 4: move in which he released a thirteen minute video to 179 00:09:53,679 --> 00:10:00,319 Speaker 4: Instagram and TikTok explaining why or giving some addition little 180 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: reasoning behind their breakup, including you know, like all like 181 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 4: the texts and call receipts. He was trying to make 182 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 4: it seem like there was so much more that you 183 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 4: guys didn't see after the final rose and I wasn't 184 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 4: as bad to her, you know, in lacking of communication 185 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 4: as she made it seem. 186 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, within that thirteen minute video he explained himself. He 187 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: also revealed some very personal text messages. 188 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 4: The craziest part about the video to me is this 189 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 4: one like slide show in which he basically screenshoted every 190 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: single text that they've ever had, and he put them 191 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: in like rapid order. It was like half I wouldn't 192 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 4: even say, I don't even know it was okay, maybe 193 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 4: half a second there was a screenshot, and there must 194 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: have been like thirty screenshot and they went by really 195 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 4: really fast. There was one text that made it into 196 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 4: a screenshot that was kind of sexual, and so therefore 197 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 4: he thought, oh, that part I need to edit out. 198 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 4: Of course, I mean like yeah, yes, but the humor 199 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 4: in this is that he just thought that that was 200 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 4: the one part he needed to edit and it wasn't 201 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: just the whole thirteen second video, so deleted it thirty minutes. Sorry, 202 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: he deleted it, and he re uploaded it without that 203 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 4: screenshot in it, but that, you know, but still thought 204 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 4: after releasing the video and getting probably some feedback, enough 205 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: feedback for the people watched that screenshot slide show in 206 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 4: detail enough that they caught that, and then he was like, yeah, 207 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: I'm gonna upload that video all over again. 208 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: There's this level I think now we've spent a few 209 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: times in Bachelor Nation where people upload personal conversations text 210 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: messages to the. 211 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: Public, most notably Blank and Kalin. 212 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, and I think you know, I see this, 213 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: and I understand why they're being I understand why they're 214 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 3: being posted because it does feel like the receipts, it 215 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: does feel like your truth. It does feel like it's 216 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 3: what you have to prove that, Hey, the story that 217 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: you're hearing isn't maybe the full story. I understand the 218 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: urge and the desire to post those. However, I do 219 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: believe those are private conversations. I do not think they 220 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: should be posted to the public. However, they are used 221 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: in the court of law. So if you know for 222 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 3: whatever reason. If we have a scenario where somebody has 223 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: to go to trial, typically phone email, all those records 224 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 3: are presented, and so I know why people are doing it. 225 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 3: In this case specifically, it was inappropriate. There was no 226 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 3: reasoning for it, and the text messages didn't prove anything. 227 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: In fact, I'm still confused after watching this thirteen minute 228 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: video on what Devin is exactly trying to prove. I 229 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 3: don't know what his I think he's trying to prove 230 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: that he wasn't as bad as what it seemed on 231 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 3: national television. However, most of the things said during the 232 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 3: final episode were proven to be true based on these 233 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 3: text messages. Yes there was a ghosting, Yes there was 234 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 3: a lack of communication. Yes there was kind of a 235 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: giving up. It felt like sentiment from this video all 236 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: I want. And really, Devin didn't have to apologize or 237 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: come public with any of this, and I know he 238 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: wanted to to clear his name and try to get 239 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: back in the good graces, even though I think that 240 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: was probably impossible at this point. I want when somebody 241 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: tries to do this Sidney, for example, Devin here as 242 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: of recent I just want authenticity. I don't want you 243 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: to throw anybody else under the bus. I don't want 244 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: you to try to pit it me versus. Then I 245 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: don't want this tongue in cheek. Hey, I'm not trying 246 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 3: to hurt jin here, I'm just trying to get you know, 247 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: my words out. 248 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: I don't want any of that. 249 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: I want the ownership and what and what you had 250 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: to do with the failure of this relationship. I also 251 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: want the authenticity of saying I am sorry for how 252 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: this went down. I could have done better, and then 253 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: we all say, hey, I've been there too, I get it. 254 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 2: We move on. 255 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: But this new kind of trend of when you get 256 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: you know, when something bad happens to you in the 257 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: public and your only way out is to blame somebody 258 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 3: else or to try to bring them back into the controversy. 259 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: One. 260 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: It's not right, it's not healthy, and it typically leads 261 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: to really destructive behavior, which this thirteen minute video was. 262 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: It did nothing to help him. There is no there, 263 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: there's nothing about this. I'm sure there's a fut rolls 264 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: on Instagram that are like, I get it, Devin, I'm 265 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: on your time. For the most part, this did nothing 266 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: to help him. I just think it could have been 267 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: done so much better. I'm wondering where ABC's at and 268 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 3: all this. I'm hoping ABC is sitting there saying as 269 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: a publicity team saying, hey, Devin, uh, let's sit down 270 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: and talk like you want. 271 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 2: To get your story out. 272 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 3: Can't stop you from doing that. However, here's some ways 273 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 3: that we would advise you to do that in a 274 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: healthy way to not hurt you Jin or anybody else. 275 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: But it seems like he had nobody he was talking 276 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 3: to and it has. 277 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: Nothing to do with the show. So I don't even 278 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 4: think he would need to get approval. Obviously, he didn't 279 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 4: need to get approval to pose that because it's all 280 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 4: about what happened in the summer. It's just I I 281 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 4: need to know what was going through his head and 282 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: who he showed. Did he show anyone that video beforehand? 283 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: Because that had some editing that needed to be done. 284 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 4: That is that is a video that like, I'm sure 285 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 4: he put it together himself, But I also wouldn't have 286 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 4: been surprised if he had like some friends around him 287 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 4: being like, yeah, yeah, this is a good move, like 288 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 4: somebody had to encourage it. I just can't imagine him 289 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: in his own power. Yeah, he's like, I'm going to 290 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 4: post this thirteen minute video without telling anybody else. 291 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: He needs like a group of advisors now around him, 292 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: Like he needs two or three of his close friends 293 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: that I hope he has, Yeah, that I hope he has, 294 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 3: being like, Hey, here's what I'm thinking, What do you 295 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: guys think of this decision? And for them to not 296 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: just think of what Devin wants to hear, but what 297 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 3: he needs to hear, which is, hey, don't do it, 298 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: like stay, don't do that, be authentic, be genuine, and 299 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: that's about as far as you should go, Like that's it. 300 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 3: Don't try to bring Jim back into it. Don't definitely 301 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: don't show private conversations for of the two of you. 302 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: That's not going to help anything. That actually is just 303 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: like wrong, especially at this point. And just try to 304 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 3: keep moving forward and become a little better man and 305 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: learn from this. There's a lot of learning that can 306 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: be done from this, but it right now that learning 307 00:16:58,400 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be taking place. 308 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: Has posting receipts ever worked out in the favor of 309 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: the person posting the receipts or people always just think like, 310 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: oh that was Cura Quinn. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, 311 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 4: but no, because he called her bad things in there, 312 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 4: and then he his winning was winning the paternity test. 313 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: But I think him posting the receipts and the text 314 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: messages never helped. It made him just look She may 315 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 4: have looked pretty pretty crazy, but that was also in 316 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 4: the long run, and we were proven that she well 317 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 4: was crazy because she made up the fact that she 318 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 4: was pregnant. But he didn't look good in those texts 319 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 4: and it had nothing to do with him being proven 320 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 4: innocent at all. 321 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 322 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: I don't have many examples, but I don't also know 323 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 3: many people doing this, so there's only a select few. 324 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 4: Did Blake look better or posting those texts between him 325 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 4: and Kaylin after that paradise? 326 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: I don't think it helped him hundred percent. People don't 327 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: like it, and it just feels invasive. It is invasive. 328 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: I shouldn't be reading what the two of you have 329 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 3: said to each other like I should not be, especially 330 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 3: when it comes. 331 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 4: To a romantic relationship. 332 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I should not be. 333 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 3: I should not be reading that like you guys should 334 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: keep those between you and you can tell me, hey, 335 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, it felt like in our relationship we went 336 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: through seasons of excitement, and then we went through really 337 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: bad season, and then we went through a season where 338 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: I didn't feel like we could talk anymore because our 339 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: communication is off. I just don't I don't need to 340 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: read your conversation on how you got there. Yeah, half 341 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 3: the time text messages don't make sense to me anyways. 342 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: I'm not good at that. 343 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 4: I just will never understand what he was thinking and 344 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: doing that. 345 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 2: No, I can't either, but I do. 346 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: I do understand the internal frustration that you go through 347 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: with like a storyline on TV doesn't come across the 348 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 4: way that you feel like you lived it and that 349 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: you like think that you have proof that it was otherwise. 350 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 4: So like the desire to put it out there, I 351 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: do understand the desire, but like you need to let 352 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 4: your pr brain just win out in that situation. 353 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: Well, I think the pr brain or just there's a 354 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: lack of maturity. This is an immature act. This is 355 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 3: something that like him at thirty whatever and a middle 356 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 3: schooler at thirteen are are doing the same thing. Like 357 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: this is this is an act that was immature. It 358 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 3: should be you should take two steps up and say, 359 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 3: as an adult, I refuse to do this no matter 360 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 3: what it will look like or no matter what kind 361 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: of heat. Right, you and I have both sat in 362 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 3: seasons within this whole show where we're like, you know, 363 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 3: it would be so much better if everybody just knew 364 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 3: the actual truth and we could. You know, you like, 365 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: I have the truth, but you have to take a 366 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: step back and you have to say no. But this 367 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 3: is like that doesn't matter to me. The winning here 368 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 3: isn't a thing. I just have to move forward and 369 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: take a little bit of the heat, get kicked a 370 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: little bit, maybe that person gets kicked around a little bit, 371 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 3: but we'll all move forward and it's gonna be okay. 372 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the audience will forget in that moment. It's 373 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 4: just like your whole life. 374 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 3: I think the audience had already forgotten and she brought 375 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: it right back up again. I think the audience were like, 376 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: I'm just excited to watch Joan and now all of 377 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 3: a sudden, Devn's back in the headlines. 378 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 4: Hey, you know, you probably think differently than me. You 379 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 4: probably think like, no, you go back to your regular 380 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: life and you do whatever you were doing. Your job 381 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 4: seem to be working for you. But if I just 382 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 4: think that if you really wanted you just go on paradise, dude, 383 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 4: and then you make sure that you're not done again. 384 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 385 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 4: And you know what, people also love to hate a villain, 386 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: so like you'll get your working either way. 387 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: We love a comeback story on to better stories. We 388 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: were with this person this last week. We knew about 389 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: this actually before it got announced publicly. I would like 390 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 3: to make a public statement to Katie to say, Hey, 391 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: I just want you to recognize that Ashley and myself 392 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: both respected your request to keep. 393 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: This private. 394 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 3: Even though I wanted to share it so bad because 395 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 3: it is so exciting and we are excited for her 396 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 3: former bachelor at Katie Thurston is engaged to Jeff Arcurry 397 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: after less than one year of dating. She explained this 398 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 3: a little bit to us in person. It's just the 399 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 3: right person for her to kind of close out the 400 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 3: headline Ashley. I started following her now fiance on Instagram yesterday. 401 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 4: He has one point five million. 402 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 2: She's hilarious. 403 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say his His Instagram is hilarious. It 404 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: is a good follow his act is awesome, his way 405 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: of communicating with the audience is brilliant. 406 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 2: Uh. 407 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 3: I've loved just kind of scrolling through his videos after 408 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 3: the last day. So I'm excited for Katie and Jeff. 409 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 3: She's been on I'll say this, she's been on a 410 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: wild dating journey on the show and after the show. Yeah, 411 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: and it's cool to see her now coming out, not 412 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 3: coming out of it, but coming through it into a 413 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: place where she seems so happy. 414 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 4: It's so crazy, how like, Yeah, it's been eight months, 415 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 4: but I feel like we were just speculating about her 416 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 4: and Blake possibly getting together like yesterday, remember, because they've 417 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 4: been seen at events and stuff. Sure, and they had 418 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 4: that whole Bachelor in Paradise thing last year and then 419 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 4: she had f Boy Island. Look at her dating, her 420 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 4: dating history and just to pass the year. 421 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: Wow. 422 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: So yeah, she was so cute at Alan's wedding. We were, 423 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 4: you know, in our was like saying they're hello. She's like, Hi, 424 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: I'm good, I'm engaged. Like she was showing her finger 425 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: to everybody. She's like, it happened a couple of days 426 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: ago in Hawaii. It happened on a secret beach in Kawaii, Hawaii, 427 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 4: on August twenty sixth, And they have been having a 428 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: long distance relationship, but that will be coming to an 429 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 4: end soon because she's going to be moving to New 430 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 4: York City in early twenty twenty five. And she confirmed 431 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 4: the She confirmed their relationship actually just recently is in May. 432 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, when you know, you know, and they're so 433 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 4: excited to spend forever together. And this is like kind 434 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 4: of cool because this is one of those stories that 435 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 4: if it weren't for the Bachelorette, who knows if this 436 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 4: would have happened, because she got into comedy to start 437 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 4: doing stand up because of her bachelorette notoriety, and now 438 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 4: she found her her boo through the comedy circuit. 439 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 3: It's really exciting, really happy for Katie and if, yeah, 440 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 3: if you're kind of bored today and you want to 441 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 3: get laugh go follow her fiance on social media. Carly 442 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: Wadell opens up about undiagnosed health issues. She finally said this, 443 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: I finally have answers. 444 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 4: So she has been dealing with something that's even affecting 445 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: her voice. And if you've been following Carly at all 446 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 4: in the past year or so, she's really been focusing 447 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 4: on music. She was opening up for Nick Carter on tour, 448 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,360 Speaker 4: which is really cool. But she said she finally went 449 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 4: to the e andt ear nos and throat doctor, after 450 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 4: over twenty years of having episodes where my throat seems 451 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: to completely close up for a good thirty seconds. That 452 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 4: is so scary And why did it take you twenty 453 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: years to do that, Carly? She said, it used to 454 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 4: happen only a few times a year, but in the 455 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 4: past few years has happened as much as three times 456 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 4: a day. Scary not only for me, but anyone around 457 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:00,439 Speaker 4: me when this happens, because it seems like, because it 458 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 4: looks like I should be doing somebody should be doing 459 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 4: the Heimel like maneuver on me while tears stream down 460 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: my face and I am gasping to breathe. She has 461 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 4: spasms in her throat that bring her to like these 462 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 4: undiagnosed asthma, seasonal allergies, and even acid reflux. That's what this. 463 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 4: These spasms are brought on by asthma, allergies and reflux, 464 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 4: and they also happen to women more than men, sometimes 465 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: more often with the women that have anxiety because they 466 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: tend to be hidden the kidd in a way. So yeah, 467 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 4: that's what she's going through. That's really scary. That's really 468 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: really scary. 469 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 2: I didn't know she was opening up for Nick Carter 470 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: on tour. 471 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, is that cool? 472 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 2: That is cool? Good for her? Uh the U I 473 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 2: think I saw this week? Ashley. Tell me if I'm wrong, 474 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 2: her former her. 475 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 4: Ex, Evan has a new girlfriend. 476 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: Has a new girlfriend, right, yeah, yeah. 477 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: I don't really know why I Evan even make it. 478 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 4: That's pretty crazy that Evan would make a headline. But 479 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 4: I saw that as well. We feel I'm not trying 480 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 4: to be shady, but. 481 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: Well, I think you know, there's some shade there. But 482 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 3: it feels like Carl has a lot to talk about 483 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: right now. I wonder if she'd be willing to come 484 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: on and talk about obviously this new diagnosis along with 485 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: a really exciting conversation of what is going on with Evan. 486 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: And then Carly has a boyfriend. 487 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Carly did talk to us about her well, 488 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 4: she teased that she had a boyfriend last time she 489 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: was on Okay, and they've been together for I want 490 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: to say a little bit over a year now. I 491 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 4: think it's serious. I think they're going to get engaged. 492 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 4: We will see, Yeah, we can. We should talk to 493 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 4: her about this this health issues. Evan has had other 494 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 4: girlfriends in the past couple of years. 495 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 3: You just jumped from health issues to Evan again. You 496 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 3: can't get en off your mind. 497 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 4: Good I don't know if he was dating like someone 498 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: relatively like like Insta war, you know, like if he 499 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 4: was dating like an influencer or like somebody who is famous. 500 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: I could see it making headlines. But Van Bass's new girlfriend, 501 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 4: I don't know. He's definitely dated since they broke up. 502 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: Oh goodness, Well, that's all the headlines for you today. Again, 503 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 3: I said it. I thought you guys some big headlines. Obviously, 504 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: we just talked about Carly the Devin thirteen minute wild video, 505 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: along with Katie Thurston getting engaged. There's just a lot 506 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: of a lot of headlines here to run through and 507 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 3: a lot of things to talk about. I want to 508 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 3: make it clear. I think Grant is our next bachelor, 509 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 3: and until I improven otherwise, I'm going to believe that, 510 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: and I think it's gonna be a great bachelor. I think, though, 511 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 3: these rumors are always worth bringing up because how embarrassing 512 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: would it be if we never talked about it, We 513 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 3: never even brought it up, and then all of a sudden, 514 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 3: this little weird rumor becomes true, would be so embarrassing for. 515 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 4: Us, so embarrassing to not be on top of things. Also, 516 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 4: his seasons like set to start within the next week, 517 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 4: so it would be a really last minute change. And 518 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 4: happy tenth anniversary to me being part of the Bachelor 519 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 4: franchise because it's this week, should have been ten years 520 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 4: ago that it all started, that I pulled up in 521 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 4: that limo. That is the most handsome man I've ever seen. 522 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, just to be clear, Chris Soles was her Bachelor, 523 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 3: not me. Hey, until next time, I've been Then I've been. 524 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: Actually Sea followed the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous 525 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: podcasts on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.