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Speaker 1: We play a game on here called start Bench Cut,

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Speaker 1: Start Bench Cut? Who would you start? Who would you bench?

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Speaker 1: Who would you cut? Patrick ewing Alonzo Morning, Shaquille O'Neill.

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Speaker 2: Question, Yo yo yo, live on location, Me and d

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Speaker 2: Miles out here in Orlando staying our ass at home

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Speaker 2: and say, we got a very special guest by way

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Speaker 2: of the Congo. We got the pride of the Congo.

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Speaker 2: We got mister No No No himself coming to us

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Speaker 2: live in direction at l Shawty. We got the Ken

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Speaker 2: Bae Mutombo Hall of Fame pulling up with us, y'all

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Speaker 2: and if your play around, he gonna slap it up

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Speaker 2: out of the Appreciate you coming through with this, big og.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Guy.

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Speaker 1: You grew up in Congo and you started soccer and

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Speaker 1: martial arts first, Like what was that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 3: Yes, because there was nothing else to do. Those was

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Speaker 3: the two sports that was available in my neighborhood. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the closest basketball courts in the neighborhood wasn't now where

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Speaker 3: by buss whoa from where I grew up. So you

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Speaker 3: have to catch the minibus for it now for YouTube,

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Speaker 3: get to the basketball court, and you gotta go there

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Speaker 3: like a gun five or seven or six o'clock, and

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Speaker 3: you don't came home like I'm to like ten pm.

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Speaker 3: And it was too danger to work on the neighborhood.

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Speaker 3: And my father didn't like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you didn't start. You didn't find, like, really

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Speaker 2: start playing basketball till sixteen. How did that come about

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Speaker 3: No, my brother was over playing for the national team.

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Speaker 3: It was a big star in a country. He was

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Speaker 3: a team captain. Everybody knew about my brother. And every

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Speaker 3: people would ask him why your youngest brother doesn't play.

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Speaker 3: It's taller than you. And my brother would be like,

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Speaker 3: y'all living alone. So I was so streaty and I

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Speaker 1: Man, what was it about basketball that you wanted to

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Speaker 1: just keep on going with that that you fell in

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Speaker 3: I really didn't like basketball for a long time. You know.

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Speaker 3: I watched my brother playing when I was younger, ally

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Speaker 3: trying that basketball was too balanced. Mm hmm. People was

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Speaker 3: always flashing to each other, and you go to the basketball,

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Speaker 3: somebody hits you.

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Speaker 2: Or you.

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Speaker 3: But the way soccer, you kick the ball and you

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Speaker 3: all you have to do that right, So that was fine.

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Speaker 3: And then my show art it was so easy. You

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: That think reason why I did like those two sports

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: John Thompson is a coach that I always wanted to

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Speaker 1: play for, like, like he's my favorite college coach. Like

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Speaker 1: if he was still coaching, like, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how I would have got past John he came. If

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Speaker 1: he can't talk to me, I'm talking about I've been sold,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But you got the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to go to Georgetown, be with John Thompson and the

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Speaker 1: history that was there before you.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: How was it trusting John Thompson and and and being

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Speaker 1: part of that Georgetown program?

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Speaker 3: You know, you know when I came to Georgetown, I

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Speaker 3: didn't come in a basketball scholarship, so I named on

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Wait, I never knew that. So

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Speaker 2: you you so you weren't recruited.

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Speaker 3: To go there by the c I was not like yours.

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Speaker 2: You are Yeah, this is this is for me right now,

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Speaker 2: this is I found that out in two thousand. Right now,

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Speaker 2: I just found here.

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Speaker 5: I need to know this.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I was now recruited. I did get the US

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Speaker 3: government scholarship to come study medicine at Georgetown. So I've

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Speaker 3: had self so well as a student. When I was

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Speaker 3: to UNITSTIC. So I was offered like a six or

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Speaker 3: seven scholarship. It was a Georgetown in Turkey, Syracuse, Indiana

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Speaker 3: States Saint John there was like another school. But my

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Speaker 3: then we end up finding out that I didn't have

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Speaker 3: With his wife, and my father was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: only scholarship I have crossed to d C it was George.

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Speaker 3: My father said, okay, you got a George sunder and

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Speaker 1: Big story. How did John Thompson approach you? Like, how

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Speaker 3: Know when I was coming? When I was coming the embassy?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the school that there's a kids very very tall,

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Speaker 3: you want to study science. But it's coming by himself

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Speaker 3: in his own scholarship, is paying for his own ticket

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Speaker 3: when I get there, a couple of days letter they

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Speaker 3: say the court or basketball team would love to meet

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Speaker 3: another basketball team. I'm not I'm not a basketball player.

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Speaker 3: But they ended up taking me to meet coach Droms

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Speaker 3: like me. And I was so scared. When I met him,

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Speaker 3: I was like, whoa, who's this guy? And a year letter?

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Speaker 3: I have to wait for a year. A year letter.

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Speaker 3: They asked me to play if I can join the

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Speaker 2: Man, that that is amazing. I never knew that. I

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Speaker 2: thought you were like recruited from like you know, over there. No,

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Speaker 2: that's that I mean. Then it does make me think, though,

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Speaker 2: this is well before any basketball without Borders and the

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Speaker 2: program that you that you kind of helped us in

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Speaker 2: the class. Right.

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Speaker 3: I think that my studies that what made me come

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Speaker 3: to America. I always want to come to America. So

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Speaker 3: I was young since I was like, tr ray you

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Speaker 3: to tell my dad, we will go to America.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So so that just speaks volumes about about how

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Speaker 2: how you how well you were doing academically to get

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Speaker 2: a scholarship, not just a scholarship from Congo to America,

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Speaker 2: but to Georgetown, which you mean people that's going on

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Speaker 2: qualify for academically. So that just speaks volumes about where

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Speaker 2: you were as far as I can thank you.

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Speaker 1: Now for real, somebody like you have Alonzo mourning there

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Speaker 1: at Georgetown, Like what did his friendship and him meaning

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Speaker 1: you a player that you know, he was the man

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Speaker 3: Want that man?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how does that mean the us N Yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: Love that man. Man, it's a great guy. He's a

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Speaker 3: grand friend, grab roommate. We have a great time at

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Speaker 3: George Stoun And I give I loaned your money so

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Speaker 3: many credits. I always say I would have not becoming

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Speaker 3: guess and given not in protest, I'll tell you what

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Speaker 3: mine I was. I was fooitful man, I was already Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you man, my freshman Yeah, I was awful man.

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Speaker 3: Was like I wanted to go out there and guard

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Speaker 3: make sure that he doesn't scolded practice. So that war

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Speaker 1: And that helped your games like miles ahead. It made

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Speaker 1: that's love.

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Speaker 2: So so, so while you set out your freshman year,

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Speaker 2: what did you do? Did you play anything? You play? Play?

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Speaker 2: Like just work out on your loan or how did

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Speaker 2: you you know prepare? Like when you said you had

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you ask me that question. I used to

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Speaker 3: I stood that? You know, everybody was five and I'll

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Speaker 2: He got there with the Inner Mural's Cloud Clo, the

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Speaker 3: Are if you click on YouTube, that's uh, that's that video.

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Speaker 3: You can't talking about freshman year. We gotta find that team.

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Speaker 1: Gotta find that we gotta put that up up you

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Speaker 1: You did it some summer intern at the US Congress.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, how many students do

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Speaker 3: Though, Uh I love political science. I love politics because

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Speaker 3: to you have those job right now, their investy. You

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Speaker 4: So it was great.

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Speaker 2: Tell me at what point, like you said, you know,

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Speaker 2: freshman year, you just got there. You weren't playing basketball,

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Speaker 2: you were just playing with the innermule team. Then sophomore

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Speaker 2: year you get introduced to the team and you like

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Speaker 2: you terrible, You know what I'm saying. You trying to

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Speaker 2: it kind of start to click where it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Everything was new, but I'm kind of figuring out basketball.

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Speaker 2: And then everybody else started to see Like when did

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Speaker 2: you see how coach Thompson started to look at you

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Speaker 2: different and then your game started to trend? Like when

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Speaker 4: At this Oh?

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Speaker 3: I think it was late February, oh Marsh, nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't game doctor with playing at Saint John. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't biggest uh shot that they came.

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Speaker 2: It was on CBS Big East.

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Speaker 3: And and Richardson. I used to only three through five

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Speaker 3: minutes that game doctor coach Thompson would have given to me,

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Speaker 3: and then I know your money with playing thirty six minutes.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you.

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Speaker 4: I bet I was.

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Speaker 3: One day against Saint John. A load of that got

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Speaker 1: That's awesome when you when you decided to go to

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Speaker 3: I was lucky, you know, all off in my life.

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Speaker 3: And those messages were sticking on my head, and I

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Speaker 2: Did you think you was gonna get drafted by anybody else?

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Speaker 1: Did you think you knew it was the Denver Nuggets

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Speaker 3: He came to my practice and George Son to see me,

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Speaker 4: OG.

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Speaker 2: You get the OG. You get to make those moves

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Speaker 3: You got David. Fuck, I have a big weight with me.

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Speaker 2: Try to enjoy the science, take the goods.

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Speaker 3: It's beautiful all season. Waking up in the morning and

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Speaker 1: About, man, I was when you when you got when

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Speaker 3: As you look at star rookies, I mean the rookies.

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Speaker 4: He just came in.

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Speaker 3: He said, no, I don't know time to show you

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Speaker 2: He said.

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Speaker 3: So we spend by two days and a half and

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Speaker 3: everybody will remember more than the people who strolled fifty

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Speaker 3: you get more than twelve or fifteen raven again and

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Speaker 6: Hey, yeah, I cannot be there. That's the blueprint right there. Yes,

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00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 6: it really helped me, lots, you help me. I always

442
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 6: say that.

443
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: My mental toughness of playing that game defensively came from

444
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: goat some song who played with Better Rossow. And it

445
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: wouldn't invite Better Rossow to also tough to me, to

446
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: give me something so I didn't have a convenience up

447
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: the two guys.

448
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me this, how did you feel like you?

449
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: You come in like you said you wanted a few rookies,

450
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: You dominate the league defensively, You make All Star team.

451
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: Me and Deaker. Remember all this, by the way, we

452
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: kids watching all this happening, like, man, this dude come

453
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: out of nowhere. But like so nineteen ninety three, how

454
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: does it feel when you like you said, you were

455
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: a kid from Congo, You were up poor, didn't even

456
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: have really shoes all the time. And now did just

457
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: tell you the shoes period?

458
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: I used to wear my brother tennis shoots to go

459
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: to school. I was rain such fifty and my brother

460
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: was Rayne Thrive and I have togot the fun of

461
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: his shoes. So my thoughts can't sup, So I can't

462
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: go to school.

463
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 5: Man, that was that was just the new sandals, No

464
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 5: new sandals about it.

465
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: You for your time, Tell you easy, You ain't have

466
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: nothing you've been doing this.

467
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: Man come from love with man, trust me, I come fromwhere.

468
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Like you now, now you

469
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: get to ninety three and you get you get a

470
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: big time company. You get a you get a Adidas

471
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: coming to you saying that we want to make give

472
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: you your own shoe, Like what is that? Like? How

473
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: does what are you thinking when you find that out?

474
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: Like I'm about to get my own shoe like one.

475
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 2: You centers don't even get shoes, Like centers don't even

476
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: like you.

477
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: You get one. You're trying to say set that I

478
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: know part of the NBA, No, I think. I think

479
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: Patrick Woyowing was one of the big center to you

480
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 3: have his own suits. So when I came, I kind

481
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 3: of followed that path a little bit. I was lucky

482
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: I did. That's what to me was like, we want

483
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: to create a suit for you. I said shoes. I

484
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,479
Speaker 3: was like, okay, what are you gonna call it? They

485
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: said we're gonna call it Mamo Tombo. I said, Mamo

486
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: tumble suits. I said, that's some call. And it was

487
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 3: a good success man for somebody who came from our car,

488
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 3: who didn't dream so much about playing the game and

489
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 3: again came to you and I ended up impressing the game.

490
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: And I took Silians and again to becoming successful. So

491
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: everything that was coming I knew that this mm hmm.

492
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: And then yeah, that was dope. Man. I rememb when

493
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: they came out. They had the African, the colors in

494
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: the in the in the difference. Yeah yeah, that was

495
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: like they was unique on so many levels and it

496
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: was that was that was that was a capsule right.

497
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: There in ninety four, y'all make the playoffs a c

498
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: y'all just getting get in the door, y'all playing the SuperSonics, y'all.

499
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: Playing rain Man and the Glove.

500
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: You know all I remember and they still show this

501
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: highlight to this day is when you grab that last rebound.

502
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: The joy, the joy in your face, the joy in

503
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: your face is that's what basketball is all about? Like that,

504
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: that's it seemed like it was so much hard work

505
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: and so much accomplished, so much of you believing that

506
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: y'all can actually do it and beat this this number

507
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: one seed, something that haven't been done, you know what

508
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

509
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 5: So how did that feel that moment that series?

510
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: Like, how was that when did y'all believe that, oh shit,

511
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: we can fuck around and get them for real?

512
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: You know what? We were playing against one of the

513
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: best team in the NBA about that, and there was

514
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: a team that won more than sixty nine games or

515
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 3: from the regular season, so we were considered as a

516
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 3: team that was going to get swamped. After the second game,

517
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 3: our coach Dan Isle, who play also for the Devon

518
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 3: again someone that ad minds so much game, was a

519
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: wonderful speech in the lack room. He said, guys, you

520
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: guys got nothing to lose. You deserve to be here.

521
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 3: Were not lose, people would be proud of you for

522
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: making the playoffs. Nobody didn't think the Devil Knaget was

523
00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 3: gonna make the playoffs.

524
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: But you already here.

525
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: All you have to do is just go out there,

526
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 3: do whatever you have to do, and leave everything on

527
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 3: the basketball court. He said, guys, I'm so proud of you. Guys.

528
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 3: If you lose a game, I'm still.

529
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 4: Gonna be proud of you.

530
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: If you win, I'm gonna.

531
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 4: Be much proud of you.

532
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: Just let's go out and fight. And five minutes before

533
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: the game start.

534
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 4: The ball boy.

535
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: Walk in the locker room taught us that they see

536
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: Seato supersonic, you have to check out from the hotel

537
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: and the pilot and the flat that already in the

538
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: airport they are leaving after the game. That is what

539
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: was like what we are two hours to play the

540
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: basketball game. And these people already check out, so they're

541
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 3: gonna kill.

542
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: Come ass and they're gonna go home.

543
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 3: That's when the fire went so high in the locker room.

544
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: Everybody was like, we are going there to fight. If

545
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 3: we're going to Dina, course, we are going to Dino.

546
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: And that's what made us to kill them.

547
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, that's that's that's crazy. That's crazy. Now

548
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: y'all kicked the ass and the history of yach with

549
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: and going home, you know, and beatting.

550
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 3: Them on game five. It was one of the emotional

551
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 3: Philly that any player can have. At that moment, I

552
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 3: didn't think the ball was going to come my way,

553
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 3: but I was lucky to grab the last Raybot and

554
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 3: when they when they closed us went home. I was like,

555
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 3: oh my god, the way are gone.

556
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: This is good. It's feel good. We won one.

557
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: Not only did we get barely get in here, we

558
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: beat the number one cent y'all fucked up the playoffs

559
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: that year.

560
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: I fucked up the playoffs.

561
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: Everybody looking at Seattle like they kicked ass all year

562
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: in y'all shut down that ship.

563
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

564
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:28,280
Speaker 3: On the second round we lost the game. SuperNature games

565
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: straight we kept beat the time straight. Yeah, and we

566
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 3: lost a game supper.

567
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: But knowing, knowing what Denver mean to you when they

568
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: didn't sign you back, how did that feel? What was

569
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: that feeling like when when the team was like I

570
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: could play here forever.

571
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: I'm here. I'm cool with where I'm at.

572
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: But you know the business of of of basketball, you

573
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: know the politics, the part we don't really want to

574
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: talk about or really get too much deep into it.

575
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: Always come into everybody's career to play this game. To you,

576
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: was coming off Defensive Player of the Year that year too, Yes, yes, mhah.

577
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 3: I was heartbroken. It took me five or six years

578
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:28,959
Speaker 3: to recover really because I was their franchise. The team

579
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: was not doing well before I got there. Suddenly I

580
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: came in, we start winning, we made the playoffs, and

581
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: we made the playoffs again, and I ended up winning

582
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 3: Defensive Level the Year twice and I ended up making

583
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: the All Star Game three times. So I knew that

584
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: I had become defense of their franchise. So their franchise

585
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 3: need me to keep moving forward. Then when I got

586
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: when I didn't get a call aby coming back, I

587
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 3: was like, what happened to me?

588
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: Here?

589
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: Was a man not good enough to be somebody never

590
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: get And I get a call the next day. That

591
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 3: time Atlanta House was offering me more money than anybody.

592
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: Then I went to Atlanta. But it was a long

593
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: healing moment to leave Denver. But you know, as you said, Males,

594
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: it's part of the business man, it's one of politics.

595
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: We cannot get on this. They shake your hands to death.

596
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 5: The next day they said, you really know the meaning

597
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 5: of the word business.

598
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: Fucking with them? So wait. So Denver never even out

599
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 2: for the contract. They never even didn't know.

600
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: They didn't even call me to come sit down and

601
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: talk to ask me what you want. They was like,

602
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: we're not gonna sign you. On the last day when

603
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 3: we lost the last game. Right away there was a

604
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: natico in the newspaper. They now get I'm not gonna sign.

605
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 3: They came in before even the season was finished. I

606
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 3: was like, I don't know what the media is talking about.

607
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: This is my time. I'm not going nowhere. Myself, I

608
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: was like, I'm not going nowhere because I just got

609
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: married that year and then we built a new home.

610
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 3: My wife and I built a beautiful home in them

611
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 3: so we just lived at the house like for six months.

612
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: So I was so excited. And then next time I

613
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: knew they was like, oh, you're not coming back. So

614
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: I had to do sell their house and ship everything out.

615
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 3: It's quite all that business man. We can't set hands bout.

616
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 3: It's business nothing.

617
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: Like you said, though, Ge, Like it's crazy you you say,

618
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 2: because I was in the same scenario. I had just

619
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: signed a I signed my six year deal with phoenix

620
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: Y and same scenario, like I'm renting the house for

621
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 2: the for the whole year because I had built the house.

622
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: I had a house built, so I'm watching like they had.

623
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 2: They had put me like in a little rental house

624
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: for that year. So every day coming home to and

625
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: from Price, I'm looking at the crib, looking at the

626
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: house getting built. Crazy big crib crib get completed. I

627
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 2: get traded, like literally, y'all get traded the week before

628
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 2: they filled my pool up. I was so hurt and like,

629
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, I think I was more hurt about

630
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: not getting to live in the crib than really getting traded.

631
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: But it was it was like you said, fans.

632
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 3: Don't know that, FBF, fans don't know doubt that, don't

633
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 3: know what we've gone through and mostled it. Oh they said,

634
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: oh you got by then, for god that we got

635
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: wife and kids. We have to move. We gotta go

636
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: look for a school, we gotta look for a house.

637
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: You get you get Atlanta. Off you the contract. They

638
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: give you the biggest contract out of everybody. And now

639
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: you darre and it's a guy named Steve Smith who's

640
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: a dog. Oh gee, he's a dog and trained to

641
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: go get there. Y'all back to back fifty wins. Like

642
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: the success was even. It was a different caliber team

643
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: than it was when you were just in Denver. Y'all

644
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: was starting off and y'all was growing to be good.

645
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: But now it's like y'all got too efficient superstars that's

646
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: ready to go.

647
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 5: We're supposed to be good, no doubt.

648
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: So how was that just getting the line and you're like, no, oh,

649
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: I got Steve Smell, we got pieces, we can win games.

650
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: Oh, it was different coming from bit them through a

651
00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: lantop because start with the coach.

652
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 2: We did.

653
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: You have Landy wal Clinton, one of the better scorture

654
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 3: in the NBA history, one of the winning scorts in

655
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: the NBA history, great man, grand father figure. Then I

656
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:22,479
Speaker 3: was running by so many great players, great man, great

657
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: veteran guys who've been in the league more than five years,

658
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 3: seven years, so guys who understand the game properly. They

659
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 3: know what it's like to win. If you do not,

660
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 3: I think I think he said, why.

661
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: We did you have successful in Orlando so to win

662
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: in Atlanta? And I know, like Atlanta is a black city.

663
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: You're not You're not African in Atlanta.

664
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: You black? You you you more than African. He was like,

665
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: you want.

666
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 3: Talking. Yeah. When I came through Man on the first

667
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 3: day one Sunday, I took a drive outside. I was like,

668
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: I feel like I was home.

669
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't think I was in a Man.

670
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 3: I thought I wasn't in Africa.

671
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: Man.

672
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's what I was like, Oh my god, my

673
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: people that yet how they how did the how did

674
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: you feel? How did Atlanta fans like embraced you? You

675
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying this this is Matombo's town right here,

676
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: like anything dealing with Atlanta Airport.

677
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: When you landed, When you land in the airport, you

678
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: see the kenbaga when you're coming up there, going up there,

679
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: say this airport.

680
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Sure, I didn't feel to have the people your people

681
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: you see, more of your kind, more of your color,

682
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: like it's rooting for you and you president that type

683
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: of town.

684
00:42:54,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 3: Friends, friends are good man. It wasn't big ship. You

685
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: knew you weren't the NBA, but the people that you

686
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 3: were looking from left and right. I just send people

687
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 3: the local I said, I you, we have done so

688
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 3: well in in life. We are successful. Who works so

689
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: many who work hard? Doctor, nurses, lawyers see you. They

690
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: can't inspire you, little bill. You wish you can see

691
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 3: so many pressons like this in America.

692
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 4: And I felt like I was fit.

693
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 3: And I look at my wife. I said, where I

694
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: stay here for the rest of far in life?

695
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: We're no. Atlanta is definitely one of the one of

696
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: the cities where where where black excellence is on yes

697
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: display all the time, like from like you said, whether

698
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: it's in whatever field whatever, whether it's nursing doctors like

699
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 2: like you say, I fly in there all the time

700
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 2: to do to work for Turner and stuff like that.

701
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 2: You know, you flying in first class like you you

702
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 2: get you Sometimes I give myself that little chuckle because

703
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: you all type of different of us in the first class,

704
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 2: like though like it be it could be whatever it

705
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: could be the super super button up business type. You

706
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: might see a young kid looking super hip hop. But

707
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 2: like they it's like all walks of us. We we

708
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: we in first class, were flying, you know what I'm saying.

709
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: We're not in the back of the plane and nothing

710
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 2: like that. Like like you said success and it's black excellence.

711
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: You see us in big houses, owning stuff, owning businesses.

712
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: They're doing things and like yeah, and then I love

713
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 2: the fact that in Atlanta that lot like they come

714
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: together a lot, they come to they got together and

715
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: do a lot.

716
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and it's us, you know what I'm saying,

717
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: that's doing it.

718
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: The fans. You see what I'm saying, is a.

719
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: Specially going on now.

720
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in Atlanta. Now I'm gonna say the other

721
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: thing about Atlanta though, like when you go to the

722
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 2: games they have they have probably the closest experience that

723
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 2: we want to go to every time, like out of

724
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: every arena. Like I saw the whole thing come up

725
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 2: when they were talking about our experience is too black

726
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: and all of that stuff. But it's because that's what

727
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: it is when you go to that game. You I'm

728
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 2: telling you. When I was removed from playing I'm cold.

729
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm on the bench with with the pistols and stuff.

730
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: We got to Detroit. You know, it's like now I'm

731
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: kind of unplugged from being like locked in the play

732
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: and it's like you looking around, It's like, yo, like

733
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 2: this is crazy. Like it's like it's kind of like,

734
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: you know, like we this It felt like Zoe Summer

735
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: Groove or something. Its just like you know what I'm saying,

736
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: like this just feel. It was like, yo, you're looking around,

737
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: it's like you see you might see t I or

738
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: you know, Ludu or somebody. It's too chains and it's

739
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: just like and then they performing it have time. It

740
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: was like, yo, this is cracking, like they then they

741
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: DJ up in there, he playing all our music. They

742
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: the stuff, the effects and stuff is like us. It

743
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: was like you you you feel it?

744
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you feel the Cultuautiful press.

745
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: Man, beautiful Press. I know y'all feel here so much.

746
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 5: Man so in Atlanta.

747
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 1: You know, y'all made the playoffs, which I just couldn't

748
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: really get over that hump you see, uh damn Chicago.

749
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: Man.

750
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: I was just about to say I was just about

751
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: to say this particular humpy speaking say that I didn't

752
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: want to say that. You know.

753
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 3: That, but you damn Chicago, you know I'm talking about

754
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 3: twenty three got it.

755
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 4: That guy man?

756
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, forty five? One time it came back together. But wait,

757
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: so this is the question I would have asked speaking

758
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: to him, because we all start on the last dance

759
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 2: where you was talking your trash, say Michael ain't got me,

760
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: he ain't got me? And then what was the reaction

761
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 2: when he got you? It wasn't one of his one

762
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: of his worst the crazy you can you can please,

763
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 2: you can say that wasn't like one of the nasty posts.

764
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: How did it feel when he when you turned and

765
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: he said this to you? I said, look at you

766
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,399
Speaker 2: know me, I'm a kid. We went crazy.

767
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: I said, Oh, Michael got him, he got of his.

768
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: Way the finger.

769
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 5: Almighty Michael, talking about that moment, run up to it.

770
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 3: You know I got You know, I ain't.

771
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: Never gonna let you live in.

772
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: They got seven years man to get one dune son

773
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: to me, I was like.

774
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, to a shot blocker. You

775
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: know they some got to get through, but many of

776
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: them don't.

777
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 3: You know.

778
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: That was the one thing I learned to respect once

779
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 2: I got to the league and learned about the block,

780
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 2: and I was like especially so because I was like,

781
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: you know, like cause rhy you said all the time,

782
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: So get mad somebody say something, start looking up and

783
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: put up out of here, like somebody gonna get through.

784
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: I go at everything I don't know, not coming here

785
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 2: and contested. I say, that's true. Though, when you start

786
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 2: thinking about it like that, like you only seven years

787
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: to get you one time, like that, you getting a

788
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: pretty good percentage.

789
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what a great shot blocker becomes,

790
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: where they don't care about the last play.

791
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,439
Speaker 2: They looking for the next block. You know what I'm saying,

792
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: looking for the next.

793
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: Block, don't think about being a shot block of Q,

794
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: which you might not know nothing about.

795
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that another day.

796
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 3: But you're a great shot blocker, you all. That's comber.

797
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: You're not gonna concept. Yeah, being a Russell taught me

798
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: that before I got to the n He said, Son,

799
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna get dunk, trust me, but you want to

800
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 3: prevent as many short as who care as possible. So

801
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: I knew what I have to do. But Michael got

802
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 3: me only one time. By everybody in the NBA history,

803
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 3: they don't think how many block shots I got for Michael.

804
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: They remember only one time I went to the bank. Today.

805
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: As I was coming up there, do walk to me said, yeah,

806
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: I saw the last days Michael, don't go.

807
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: And you can't even go to the bank without somebody

808
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 2: bringing that up here?

809
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: How many all the femi I made, all the horse

810
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:55,479
Speaker 3: start team, I made one of a great difference player. People,

811
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 3: remember only one time I got done block only I

812
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 3: got Donk one time. Micro.

813
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: So the seventy sixers had Alan Ivsen who was being

814
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: scoring champ, a top three score every year. Great great

815
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 1: Greg guys works, great great coaching, Larry Brown. The what

816
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: they was missing was the defensive piece. They had all

817
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: the offense in the days because Gonna stow all the point,

818
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: but they needed that defense to stop the other team

819
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: from scoring. Like when you got traded there you fit,

820
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: you came in. It was just like perfect, like it

821
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: didn't nothing fuck up. They intially became a title contender

822
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: right away. It wasn't just about making the playoffs off

823
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: alives and scoring. It's about ship we can get a

824
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: chance to win it. And when this when this title,

825
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: Like how was to get on that defensive player?

826
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, remember went with that All Star gave me DC.

827
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we were there.

828
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

829
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 3: And after the game, No, in the fourth quarter, after

830
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 3: we made the comeback.

831
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: The comeback coming to Marlberry, Jason.

832
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: Thirty one, Raymond Yeah, and then by seven blocks son.

833
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 3: Coach bron look at me at the third quarter, some

834
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 3: you are coming with me.

835
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 5: I'm coming to get you now, coming to get you

836
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 5: get I mean on the time out he.

837
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 3: Said, you're coming with me. Everybody was like, where you

838
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 3: where you guys are going? You're coming with me?

839
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 4: And phinny so I thought it was a joke.

840
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, maybe conch lacking. He said, no,

841
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: if I'm going make to the championship, you're the one

842
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: who's going to take us, and the air was I said, coach, yes,

843
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: you're coming with fun. The next day the fun way,

844
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: I was in flammation.

845
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: So would that be considered tampering or something like that?

846
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 2: That didn't even exist back That didn't exist back then.

847
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 2: It comes back. I was just talking you, I was

848
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: just talking.

849
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: So I slew after the game to LA with the

850
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: Atlanta House because we was playing the Lightless Students then

851
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 3: and I was trying to get on the bus. I

852
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: was living there to go get it on the bus.

853
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 3: I was the last one I see the trainer Wally

854
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 3: Wally Blaze walked to me. Wally said, the camber coached

855
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: me to talk to you. I was like, why because

856
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: I'm late? Oh no, you no legs? I said, right,

857
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: because I'm the last one on the basket and said no,

858
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 3: so I think it. Coach said, go check in your room.

859
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: There's a voice message for you. But we have to

860
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 3: go go back to your room. I said, they gave

861
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: me to the two hour and a half. I said, no,

862
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: you go back to your room. You know playing tonight,

863
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: I said, coach your man right away, they crossed their

864
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 3: dogs gone, So I didn't get a chance to say

865
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 3: bye to my teammates or nothing the basketball.

866
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 2: So they didn't get you an explanation. They tell you

867
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 2: to go listen to the voicemail.

868
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 3: Yes, I went back to my room right and there

869
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 3: was a voice message in my room my hotel. Go.

870
00:53:53,800 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 3: I listened, said Dick, you've been traded to Philadelphia. Was

871
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: asked this question. I know we're talking about NBA's business,

872
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: but sometimes you wonder, why did they treat me or

873
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: something like that.

874
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: That's crazy, that's crazy, like kick you off the bus.

875
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: Wouldn't tell you like he could have just told you, like, yo, man,

876
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: they traded you. It wasn't my call, like they just

877
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 2: told you go listen to the voicemail. I ain't gonna

878
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: be the bar of bad news. I ain't saying go

879
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 2: go listen to the too big and need to tell

880
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: you this shit. That's wild.

881
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: Man.

882
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 3: I went, that was like you being traded. So I

883
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 3: called him, my head, Devin fun I said, Devid, what's

884
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 3: going on?

885
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 4: Uh? Did?

886
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: I'm sorry? I just got a call you being traded

887
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 3: to the something of this section M. But I wasn't

888
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 3: happy because now that brody, I thought me, you come

889
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 3: in with me.

890
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 2: So I knew that, yeah, that was there. That was

891
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: a good conference, knowing that at least where I am going,

892
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 2: and you know, he won't be really bad at least.

893
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: So when you got there right the way, did you see,

894
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, yeah, something special, we can really

895
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: kind of really do something. Y'all start playing team y'are

896
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: you know what?

897
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 3: There was a great team. There was number one in

898
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference. They have one more game than anybody

899
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: there was playing, so well, I was starting that crazy.

900
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: I knew that there was a perfect lance for me

901
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 3: to be in. I was going to fit with the system.

902
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: I don't have to shoot the ball. All I have

903
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 3: to go to get away by then put back because

904
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 3: I know I'm going to shoot everything in the back hand.

905
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 3: All I have to do just block shot and so

906
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 3: we can win. So I know what I was on.

907
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just ship down. You have to do just this.

908
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, going into the Yeah, y'all play Kobe and

909
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: Shack now at the yeah finals, Like I feel like

910
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: Shaq was being so dominant in the league. You played

911
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: them better than anybody could play him. Like it's you

912
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: gotta be a brave man to put your face in

913
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: there and let that both swing around when this was

914
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: this was when he springing that shack like when you

915
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: swing it when he turned swing that boat for your

916
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: face to be right there, man, to even attempt at

917
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: that finals and y'all winning that first game. I remember

918
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: that first game y'all won. Y'all went off. Oh man,

919
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: that was great, man, How was that game for? Remember

920
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: that first game that y'all played, Game one, when y'all

921
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: beat them in LA.

922
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 3: We knew that we did. You have the ability to

923
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: beat them so defensively we were better at offensively. We

924
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 3: know that way up at all we have to do

925
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,959
Speaker 3: set that's many pick and ry to they him lose

926
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 3: that man, he was gonna get that shot and they

927
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: and I just had to crush the ball and get

928
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 3: a ripound and then we did that. I always believe

929
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 3: Whish would have won the game two because we was

930
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: up about ten.

931
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,439
Speaker 2: Yes, two minutes left.

932
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: Yes, with two minutes left, Shack file out. Then I

933
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 3: don't know what happened, something that they have happened. And

934
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 3: coach Brian was like, Dick, I think the game is offered.

935
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to take you out, save you from game

936
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 3: three because Shack is not there. Let somebody else play

937
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 3: with me. As soon as I came to sit on

938
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 3: the bench, with like one minute and forty some second,

939
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 3: our legs brother Kobe Bryant push the ball down, scored

940
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 3: pre three pointer on the road. Poo right away. It

941
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 3: was was it was what was that court?

942
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,440
Speaker 4: I needed to go back here? We got it. We

943
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 4: gotta pull.

944
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 3: We lose the bar that game. And then when they

945
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 3: scored and we lost the game, listen, say if we

946
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 3: have beat them down two games, maybe it was a

947
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: chance for me to win that championship. Right.

948
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: So you you spoke on you said, you said that

949
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: you knew. All you had to do is this this,

950
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 2: this right here right Tell me where where where did

951
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: that come from? When did you like, what made you

952
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: start doing it? And and just what was the origin

953
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: of that? Uh, it's legendary, it's iconic.

954
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: Now, when I came to the league, I knew I

955
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 3: was in different forces because the way I wasn't fortuning

956
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 3: the game every given now with a mission and with

957
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: a purpose. The purpose was to stop anybody that was

958
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 3: coming to the basket. And my mission was to win.

959
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: And every time I would blood start, but people will

960
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: still coming in trying to put the level on me.

961
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 3: Then I used to shake my head every time I

962
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 3: would block the shot. Then I said, man, fuck this,

963
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 3: those guys are now listening to me. Maybe it start

964
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: giving them the fingerware.

965
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll tell you what.

966
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 3: I lost a lot of money in the fingerwear. Man.

967
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 3: I got so many techs.

968
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 2: You go far, but no.

969
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 3: Referee will kick me out of the game. They'll be like, Dick,

970
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: if you do that, well, kick you, you get attacked.

971
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 3: I would get attacked the first tack then I will

972
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 3: do that again. They'd be like, please stop, please stop, man,

973
00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 3: we don't want to kick you out of the gain.

974
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: Is it true like you say you got technicals for

975
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: did they try and ban it or stop you from

976
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 2: doing the fingerway? Like the league?

977
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 3: The league trying to ban that matter fact, they didn't

978
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 3: ban that, but I didn't stop.

979
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

980
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 3: I was that call all that time with the commissioner

981
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 3: Devin and it would have called me like can't what

982
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: did not tell you stop? Stop? Stop? That was like

983
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 3: I was like, Dev, It's already on my blose, It's

984
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 3: on my sister. I cannot stop.

985
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 2: And that.

986
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 3: Cop years was like you know what forget about that?

987
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 3: You just kicking.

988
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: At the playoffs?

989
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 1: Like to see you know, from that, to see like

990
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: young kids from Congo like Sergey Bakabo. Yeah, to see

991
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: young kids come up, you know, to do that and

992
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: and do it and get it from you. Somebody that

993
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: started to like, how do you feel to see the

994
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: next generation still keeping the love and keeping the tradition going.

995
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: I think it brings a lot of love to me

996
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: and make me appreciate my contribution to the NBA and

997
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,880
Speaker 3: my contribution to this game that I played this game

998
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 3: with a lot of person, with a lot of love.

999
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: And I left so much admiration to so many people

1000
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 3: in this generation to come, and so many of those

1001
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: young people who came after us. They're trying to copy

1002
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: a few things that I did when I was in

1003
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 3: the NBA. It's the same thing I did. I was

1004
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 3: able to copy a lot of thing. Bill Ussell, pat

1005
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 3: with you, Owen. I came my last wife, David Robinson,

1006
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 3: Karaema du Java. I took the whole shack from Karaimadu Java.

1007
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 3: You getting off playing it in the professional league and

1008
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 3: that fo what if I coping and somethbody who kept

1009
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 3: before you exactly, don't let nobody fool you. My brothers

1010
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 3: would have said that, oh I created my own getting. No,

1011
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 3: you create your own get. You pick come from something

1012
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:22,480
Speaker 3: I do nothing?

1013
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not that way.

1014
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: It is like what I love about your career so much,

1015
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: like man, every team you went to, you fit in

1016
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: so perfect, and it was like like a reinvention, not

1017
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: like you ain't did nothing before, but it was like

1018
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: every team from New Jersey to New York to even

1019
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:43,479
Speaker 1: Houston when.

1020
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: You got there with y'all, it was like it was

1021
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 2: always like a.

1022
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 1: Reinvention of you, like a new start, but coming in

1023
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: as one of the best players in this league, Like,

1024
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 1: how was it?

1025
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: You know?

1026
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 5: I know you journey man for a few years through

1027
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 5: New Jersey, through New York, got.

1028
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: To Houston then, but every year it's like you fit

1029
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: in so perfect, and defense always fit in perfect, and

1030
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: you're taking care of you the front line and right.

1031
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: It took me a while to realize that through your

1032
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 3: career in the NBA, there's no assurance that they give

1033
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 3: it to you, saying that Quain Males, you gonna play

1034
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 3: only for the Phoenix sign. Nobody knows where you're going

1035
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 3: to finish. Nobody haven't been drafted first. You don't know

1036
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 3: where you're going when you go to the draft, and

1037
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 3: you don't know where you're going to finish. So I

1038
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 3: was those type of player who really didn't understand that

1039
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: very well. After what did happen to me in Denver,

1040
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: I thought, I was like, if you are so good,

1041
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 3: why do you have to be traded? Why do you

1042
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: have to transfer somewhere? It took me couple of years

1043
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 3: to understand that. That when I realized that my job

1044
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: as the game and Tombo was to play basketball but

1045
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 3: to play basketball, where in the NBA it was not

1046
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 3: as to play basketball year year, it was to have

1047
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 3: a job, because, as you know, we love our job.

1048
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: All we want to do to be able to wake

1049
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 3: up the next day and know that to we have

1050
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: a job and we don't get paid and feed our family.

1051
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 3: So you know, I kept to the point to understand

1052
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 3: that no matter where I go, as long as I'm

1053
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 3: doing what they asking me to do, I'll be fine

1054
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:46,920
Speaker 3: with my teammate. I just need to go ahead, be nice,

1055
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 3: go hard on practice, and let the coaches make a decision.

1056
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 4: And I did that.

1057
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 3: I ended up living in love to almost all of

1058
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 3: the coaches that coached me.

1059
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 2: So I'm lucking mack speak speak on speak on How

1060
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: how was it to when you play with the Rockets,

1061
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,479
Speaker 2: with that with that team, with t Mac and y'all,

1062
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: and like you were forty years old coming off the bench,

1063
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: still averaging ten rebounds off the bench behind y'all, limited action,

1064
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 2: still smacking stuff up out of there, and you had

1065
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: the oldest you the oldest person to get twenty two

1066
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: rebounds in the game at forty other Like, how was

1067
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: that experience with the Rockets to at the end of

1068
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: your career and you got to play with Prime t

1069
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 2: Mac Prime y'all.

1070
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 3: Oh, that was the best time. Man. I don't know

1071
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: why I lost my last five years and you were

1072
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 3: struck that better than any pass. I think that because

1073
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 3: I was old and I was running with young people.

1074
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,439
Speaker 3: It's not It's not grandpa with his grand kids.

1075
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: And they wasn't asking They wasn't asking you to do

1076
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: it too much. You had somebody in front of you,

1077
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: come in and do your thing in short time. It

1078
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: didn't go back and chill out.

1079
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 3: Yes, it was a good time.

1080
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 4: Man.

1081
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 3: Team Matt is a great guy. Gret y'all stick best.

1082
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 3: We remained friends until today.

1083
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 4: Man.

1084
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 3: I love those guys.

1085
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 4: I love her. You.

1086
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 1: You came in studying medicine, yes, to build a hospital

1087
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: like at home, To build a hospital at home, knowing

1088
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 1: what your people going through and all that stuff.

1089
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 2: To build a hospital at home.

1090
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 1: It's like you came into medicine to study and you're

1091
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna build a center where all the medicine can be

1092
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: provided for anybody. Like, how did that make you feel?

1093
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 1: To get a hospital and build a hospital at home?

1094
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 2: And you got the name it after your mom? Straight up? Yeah,

1095
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 2: that's the ultimate cherry on till thank.

1096
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 3: You, Thank you, guys, thank you. In ninety seven, going

1097
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 3: to ninety eight, there was a say for arrest back

1098
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 3: in the Congo. Then my mom was not feeling well.

1099
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 3: So my dad will trying to get my mom to

1100
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 3: the hospital.

1101
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 4: I was like ten minutes.

1102
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 3: Away by the soldiers told my mom my dad to

1103
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: go back in the house because there was so many

1104
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 3: shooting on the street. They don't want they didn't want

1105
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 3: nothing to.

1106
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 4: Happen to my father.

1107
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 3: So my father said, hey, my wife is not feeling well.

1108
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 3: We got to get to the hospital. But to make

1109
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 3: the story short, my dad get back in the house.

1110
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 3: My mom ended up passing away in the living room.

1111
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 3: So with all those circumstaints of life, I realized that

1112
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 3: I had to do something. Then I asked myself a question.

1113
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 3: I came to America to study medicine in a journey

1114
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: that I would becoming a doctor and go back home

1115
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 3: to Africa to practice. Now many NBA making million million

1116
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 3: dollars and people are dying back home because of lack

1117
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,759
Speaker 3: of medicine, lack of treatment, of lack of healthcare. Center

1118
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 3: want to just build a hospital and make a difference.

1119
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 3: So I started looking inside myself.

1120
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: What can I do?

1121
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 3: How would I do that? So I did the have

1122
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: a cousin who work in Washington, d C. So I

1123
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: went to see him. I said, Doc, doctor Lewis, I'm

1124
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:52,799
Speaker 3: interesting about building the hospital back home because I always

1125
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 3: want becoming a doctor. It would be a nice thing

1126
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 3: for me to build something to take care of all

1127
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,560
Speaker 3: those women and children are dying in Africa. And my

1128
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 3: cousin was like, if it's your calling, if that's something

1129
01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 3: you want to do, I will support to you with

1130
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: my experience being a doctor, I will help you mention

1131
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 3: them to sip your God. And he joined me on

1132
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 3: my journey and I went there and built this hospital

1133
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 3: that I treat more than six hundred thousand women and children,

1134
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 3: which I'm very proud of her. The team that I

1135
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 3: have in the Congo Uh as we are talking today

1136
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 3: and the next couple of weeks, uh I'm going to

1137
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 3: start in construction of the brand new school in Congo

1138
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 3: and the memory of my father. So I'm building a

1139
01:09:49,080 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 3: treat five million dollar school. I go from the kindergarten

1140
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 3: to twelfth grade. So there's and their school. Their school

1141
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 3: will open and stead Tama so I'm so exciting that

1142
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 3: what I'm doing in this well and the difference.

1143
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 2: I make it, that's why the blessings are here.

1144
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 1: Like for now you're a hall of Famer, this game

1145
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: that you didn't know nothing about and so forth all

1146
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: and they they the ken Baba Tombo hall of Famer,

1147
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: so well deserved. Uh wish we can give it to

1148
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: you soon as you finished you announce your retirement. You

1149
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: know you're supposed to get it right away, but you're

1150
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: a hall of famer. To put hall of fame in

1151
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: front of your name, Hall of Fame Tombo, Like, how

1152
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: did that feel to be in there with all them

1153
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 1: greats that you just strive and worked hard to be

1154
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: like like your brother, I could have.

1155
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: Believed when my name was called out, got that I

1156
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 3: was part of that class. Yeah twenty fifteen. I was

1157
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 3: a what yeah, yeah, because it doesn't happen to so

1158
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 3: many guys. Sometimes you have to wait a couple more

1159
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 3: years for you to get it. There's people who went

1160
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 3: for twenty thirty years to get it. But I got

1161
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 3: call on the first one.

1162
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 4: I was.

1163
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 3: I thanks God, man, there's nobody else. I thanks God

1164
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 3: for all of the blessing for maybe to be who

1165
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 3: I am, and I thanks my teammates because as you know,

1166
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,919
Speaker 3: basketball is not a spot that you can play by yourself.

1167
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:45,000
Speaker 3: You have to have good teammates man, people who believe

1168
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 3: in you, who would walk in a basketball court with

1169
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 3: you and go and wait, because we waited with five

1170
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,599
Speaker 3: guys and we lose with five guys on a basketball court.

1171
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 3: So I always thanks everyone on my teammates. I thank

1172
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:07,759
Speaker 3: my courtions, and don't forget we all have through thanks.

1173
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 3: I want trenders, gods, you take.

1174
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 2: Care right, This is what I want to add. Like everything,

1175
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 2: all of the different things you've accomplished. You know what

1176
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Basketball, you got you know, you speak nine languages.

1177
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 2: You you know what I'm saying, got different degrees and

1178
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 2: and things like that. But where did you get the

1179
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 2: passion to become the huge humanitarian? Like you say you

1180
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 2: built the hospital right now, you've been in the school

1181
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:46,839
Speaker 2: and you you've taken so much of your own personal

1182
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,799
Speaker 2: and giving back to the Congo and just different charities.

1183
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,560
Speaker 2: Every time I look up like I see you with

1184
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 2: all of the NBA, I feel like you know what

1185
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying, though, Like I say this in an admirable

1186
01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 2: way like I always see like they is always doing

1187
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 2: something and it's always for the betterment of somebody else,

1188
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: and it's always some positivity, and it's like you got

1189
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: one of the most huge hearts. And when it comes

1190
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 2: to giving back and trying to help other people, what

1191
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: do you think you got that from? And I mean,

1192
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: we look at it and you inspire us, and we

1193
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 2: salute you, and we we say thank you for doing

1194
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: all the all that you impact. And I know those

1195
01:13:24,120 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: people that receive those impacts really really are thankful for you.

1196
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: So where do you think that comes from?

1197
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 3: I think to my mother and my father too. I

1198
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:41,599
Speaker 3: think it was something that given to me as a child.

1199
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 3: It taught me so well about thinking about all that

1200
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 3: people and my mom every time, even though we grew

1201
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,800
Speaker 3: up so poor. My dad was a teacher that made

1202
01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 3: thirty year dollars in mom My mom was a housewife,

1203
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 3: but in the evening he'd be selling sworders or something

1204
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 3: on the corner of the street, so he can make

1205
01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:12,679
Speaker 3: extra two dollars or three dollars to feed our kids

1206
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 3: and my mom every time, so we'll cook in the evening.

1207
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 3: Even there's other kids in the neighborhood that don't have

1208
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 3: no food, they will come over our house and eat.

1209
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 3: And those are the thing I took from my parents.

1210
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 3: And when I got blasts to play the game that

1211
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 3: we all love in the NBA to make all the money,

1212
01:14:38,040 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 3: I said, I need to find a way to blast

1213
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 3: all the people who are not in my shoes and

1214
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 3: just to leave an impact in this world that we

1215
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: are living in. And the NBA give me the platform

1216
01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 3: to call all the people who are successful to join

1217
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 3: me in my journey and to make me to help

1218
01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 3: me do what I want to do. Because I don't

1219
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,679
Speaker 3: do all the work that I don't underwork by myself.

1220
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 3: I always go with different friends who gotta go to

1221
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 3: her and I say, hey, do you think you can

1222
01:15:19,200 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 3: give one million dollars for something I want to do here?

1223
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: Can you do half a million? Can you do fifty thousand?

1224
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 3: Can you do ten thousand? So you call all those

1225
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 3: people like with their school I'm building, I'm not putting

1226
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: my money. People are putting money in to help me

1227
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 3: go do something for the poor people because they believe

1228
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 3: in me. They know that if we give this money

1229
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 3: to detamine with Tobo, it will get it done. Like

1230
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,200
Speaker 3: he deal with his hospital so.

1231
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 2: It's about really really good friends you have there to

1232
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: be able to call oh, yeah, I need to be

1233
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 2: able to call me upon and say, yo, let me

1234
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,960
Speaker 2: get a million for this over here, and we're gonna

1235
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: tell you why.

1236
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 3: That's why I love about NBA. Man. I think there's

1237
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 3: so many people who would love to be in our shoes,

1238
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 3: but we need to use this platform correctly. There's so

1239
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 3: many people that we do touch our face when they

1240
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 3: come to see us to find a way to develop

1241
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 3: a great friendship with them. Because when they gave me

1242
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 3: is offer you becoming their post, so you becoming as

1243
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 3: a basketball fan. Then when you go back to that click,

1244
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 3: if you use that click very well, you can becoming

1245
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 3: to Yeah.

1246
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,599
Speaker 2: Absolutely straight up. You fell in love with this ball.

1247
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: Now you've got a son that's a top prospect that

1248
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: fell in love with the same ball that you fell

1249
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: in love.

1250
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 2: How do you feel about.

1251
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 1: Just seeing your blood, your baby boy fall in love

1252
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 1: with this game and starting to like it and be

1253
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 1: successful at it.

1254
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:10,240
Speaker 3: I'm so proud of him. He made me cry some

1255
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 3: time I watched him in the game. I just sit

1256
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 3: there and say, keep going, young man, keep chasing your dream.

1257
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 3: I think it's good for a long time. You want

1258
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:27,760
Speaker 3: to be better than me, and my job is to

1259
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 3: make sure that you get that. That's why I do

1260
01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 3: what I do every day. Make sure I'm pushing him,

1261
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 3: make sure that it's eating what it's supposed to is

1262
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,280
Speaker 3: lifting weights. He's going to the gym and work out

1263
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 3: with the coaches. Is at the gym right now. He

1264
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 3: left some store or clockey. I'm not coming back there.

1265
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, man, we have to.

1266
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 3: Sit forth to them when our children want to get

1267
01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 3: to their game, and basically except for we need to

1268
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 3: push them, we need to walk with them, make sure

1269
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 3: they get that where.

1270
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:07,599
Speaker 4: They want to go. Yeah.

1271
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been wearing the size eighteen shoes since I

1272
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:12,840
Speaker 1: was in seventh grade.

1273
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 3: Oh yo, you got small shit my shoes.

1274
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 2: Let's wait, wait until you got small my shoe size.

1275
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: You know, me being twelve years old wearing the eighteen

1276
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, Like I didn't hurt all the

1277
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: big feet jokes there was like, but I know your

1278
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 1: foot is a little bit bigger than mine.

1279
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 3: So I went two.

1280
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm in the eighteen. It's not easy. I'm trying to

1281
01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: tell them that, like it's not dressed shoes white.

1282
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 3: You can't buy your shoes.

1283
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,720
Speaker 2: And Freeman.

1284
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: Even in the A shout out freemans in the A,

1285
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 1: I still got a pair of shoes. And there you

1286
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 1: know us big feet people. You know, once we get

1287
01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: a pair of shoes, we can't funk them up like that.

1288
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: We got to keep them. We might not get it

1289
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 2: there a long time, long time.

1290
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 3: I ran out for five years or six year. My

1291
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 3: wife's be like, oh, why are you wearing that shoots again?

1292
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 4: That ship?

1293
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 3: I said, what's wrong.

1294
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 4: With my shoes?

1295
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 2: Straight up? Straight up? And this is what I want

1296
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: to ask og. So you know, you coming from from

1297
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 2: from Africa and you know, very humble beginnings, not having

1298
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 2: a whole lot. When you got to the NBA and

1299
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 2: you started getting them millions, right, I know you did

1300
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: things to take care of the family. I got to

1301
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 2: hear something that you did for yourself, something that you

1302
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 2: was like, I'm about to go. I got to get

1303
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:49,120
Speaker 2: some nice or treat myself one time, what olgm what

1304
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: a mountain my tombo go splurrige on. As a young boy,

1305
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: I did that take.

1306
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 3: Care of myself twenty years ago when I was still

1307
01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 3: in the league. Dumb, I always ever dream about living

1308
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 3: a big mission big house and.

1309
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 4: I got it die.

1310
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:16,200
Speaker 3: In two thousand, I was driving in Atlanta one day

1311
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:27,599
Speaker 3: after practice. Our late brother lo rental rights, remember you know, Yeah,

1312
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 3: And after practice our next friend told me said, dig,

1313
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 3: there's this big house being built in the neighborhood man

1314
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 3: where I live. I think the house looks like you

1315
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 3: fit it. So, because we already talked about whose house

1316
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 3: is bigger than the other, I thought it was a joke.

1317
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 3: After practice, is said, no, jump, follow me, I'll show

1318
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 3: you the house. And soon then we draw by the

1319
01:20:58,880 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: house has been built.

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01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,799
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, my gosh, that's mine right there.

1321
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 3: This is my house, I said, Dick. He said, oh, no,

1322
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 3: it's not for you to buy. I just want to

1323
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 3: show you. I said, no, I'm buying this house right

1324
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 3: and I dropp inside and people were still walking there.

1325
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 3: I said, who's building this house? And the guy was

1326
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 3: standing there, say, I am, I said, is anybody buying it?

1327
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: He said no. I told the guy I said, I'm

1328
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 3: buying the house just down the spot. I said, I'm

1329
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,680
Speaker 3: going to buy it. I'm going to finish it and

1330
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to live here to the last summer life.

1331
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 3: That's where I am. Oh when I'm retired, I said.

1332
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 3: I plenty NBA for eighteen years, but it's always going

1333
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 3: to buy a beautiful car that you can why for

1334
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 3: a long time after you retire. So I spent a

1335
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:09,639
Speaker 3: little bit of money. I bought myself a nice beautiful

1336
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 3: friendtom photos.

1337
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:14,719
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay.

1338
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 1: So with suicide, dogs, with the suicide, you can talk talk.

1339
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 2: Talking to me, I know before Hall of Fame will.

1340
01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 3: So everybody here, my kids said, Daddy, I driving your

1341
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 3: retirement carment car. Yeah, car, I drive it once a week.

1342
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: It doesn't live the house straight up on Sundays. Huh, Sundays,

1343
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to church.

1344
01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 2: And with this, ye know what I'm talking, y'all can't

1345
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: win nothing but your good clothes here, y'all can get

1346
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: in here and.

1347
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: Regular, Hey, put these scuffies on. You can't get my

1348
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 1: corpt my fur on my corport. Wrong, my car, man, you.

1349
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 3: Drink all the kids, even the wife. No, you can

1350
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,160
Speaker 3: drink nothinking my car.

1351
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,480
Speaker 2: You can't drink that the roads baby.

1352
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 3: That said no, that's that car. Nobody messed with her.

1353
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 2: All right, man, that's a wrap man. This has been huge. Man.

1354
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 2: We got our o g mister the Ken Bay Matombo.

1355
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 2: It is mister No No No himself priud of the

1356
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:49,880
Speaker 2: Congo all the Hall of Famer. Yes, sir man, we

1357
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 2: appreciate this.

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01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 3: O G.

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01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:53,120
Speaker 2: Man, this was this is you. One of the ones

1360
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 2: we look up to. Man we grew up watching and

1361
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,240
Speaker 2: we admire and this is this was. This was awesome

1362
01:23:58,280 --> 01:23:59,560
Speaker 2: for you to pull up with us like this.

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01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 3: Man. Appreciate you. I appreciate God. Thank you so much

1364
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 3: for napping at and I want you doing what you're doing.

1365
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,559
Speaker 3: What's y'all that behind that success step right from.

1366
01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 2: The bubble, away from the bubble, I got you. We

1367
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 2: called this. That's why this quarantine season standing out as

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01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 2: at home. We got them towers keeping us connected. We

1369
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,439
Speaker 2: ain't gotta go close. We connected with that five G.

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Speaker 4: Thank you

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