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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: Online at aol dot com.

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Speaker 2: Lauren is on the phone today for our first Day

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Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Sammy.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call him and seefa

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Speaker 2: tells why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 2: But first, Lauren, how long has it been since you

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Speaker 2: heard from Sammy?

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's been like a week or two. Now.

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Speaker 4: Have you reached out to him in that time?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, I definitely have, although I don't think.

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Speaker 5: He knows that I have. I'll probably have to explain

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Speaker 5: that to you a little bit.

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Speaker 3: He has her situation, okay, But I can't believe I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: It's that the date was actually like amazing, and it's

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Speaker 5: so rare that I meet anyone letters, you know, IRL

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Speaker 5: or online where it's like especially online to say, because

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Speaker 5: you know, we'll text and like I think that there

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Speaker 5: could be a possibility to be going somewhere and then like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know, we meet up and it's just not

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Speaker 5: what I expected. But in this case, the text chemistry

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Speaker 5: absolutely translated to real life. We spent like several hours

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Speaker 5: together wasn't just at one spot. We were kind of

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Speaker 5: hopping all around one venue to the next, and believe

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Speaker 5: it or not, even I got to know some of

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Speaker 5: his friends and they seem awesome as well. And the

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Speaker 5: night ended up at his place, which I do expect.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I know, you know, talking the radio.

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Speaker 5: So something happened that our you know, PG thirteen rated R.

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Speaker 5: So I stayed the night there and then we decided

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Speaker 5: to meet up for date number two, which was just

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Speaker 5: casual but so much fun, like downtown after work, you know,

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Speaker 5: not my neighborhood where I live, but it was just

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Speaker 5: a great time.

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Speaker 4: Did you go back with him after date number two? Too?

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Speaker 5: Well? I texted him and just got no response, like

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Speaker 5: I didn't know where he was, so sitting there like what?

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Speaker 5: And then after fifteen minutes I did something like I

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Speaker 5: never want to do, like the phone call like hey

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Speaker 5: where are you? That sort of thing awkward.

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Speaker 1: So wait, wait, wait, I'm sorry he disappeared in the

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Speaker 1: middle of your date.

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Speaker 5: No, I got there and he was nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 4: Got it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah again, I really think I like this guy. So

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Speaker 5: I'm like, normally after fifteen minutes I would just leave

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Speaker 5: like okay, you're gonna go to waste my time. I

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Speaker 5: don't even know you, but I'm like, let me give

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Speaker 5: the chance that you never know, like what could have happened? Right,

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Speaker 5: So I call and I miss at my calls are

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Speaker 5: doing like the same thing every single time. It would

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Speaker 5: like ring twice and then go straight to voicemail. I

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Speaker 5: talked this up to like okay, he's in a bad

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Speaker 5: service area and that sort of thing, but it happened,

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Speaker 5: I want to say, like four times in a row.

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Speaker 5: So at that point I just was like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna go ahead and google, like how do I know

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Speaker 5: if someone's blocked me? Because I never could understand the

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Speaker 5: answer to this. But it's actually turns out it's really

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Speaker 5: easy to do that. Apparently, like you can just make

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Speaker 5: your number anonymous, yeah, to block people, so you can.

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Speaker 2: Just to find out if you were blocked or to

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Speaker 2: be blocked to be blocked.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Like this was a lesson for me because like

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Speaker 5: apparently if it rings more than twice before the voice

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Speaker 5: that that means you're blocked?

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Speaker 4: It does or does that mean you're getting sent to voicemail?

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Speaker 5: It's blocked?

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Speaker 4: So I mean, okay, either way, it's not okay.

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Speaker 5: So I was like, all right, well, I wow, this

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Speaker 5: sucks right, And I just went back to my car

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Speaker 5: and I was sulking there, like I couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Even bring myself to drive home.

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Speaker 5: I was still bummed out.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's really number.

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Speaker 1: I would be frustrated about that, especially if you think

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Speaker 1: the date went so well that's yeah, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Just want to know why.

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Speaker 1: Also, you're like, well, did you do something though, Like

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Speaker 1: if you think back to that first date, is there

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Speaker 1: any thing that could have happened that would cause the blocking?

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Speaker 5: No, And I've asked myself that now, like up and down,

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Speaker 5: and I'm for me and I thought it was mutual,

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Speaker 5: like we have this insane chemistry that's super rare. So

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Speaker 5: that's why I'm so disappointed. I can't come up with

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Speaker 5: any reason why, especially after, like you know, seeing each

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Speaker 5: other more than less. But he would go to me like,

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Speaker 5: why wouldn't you just say something?

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Speaker 2: Okay, well we'll try to figure it out for you.

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Speaker 2: Play a song, come back, and then call him and

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Speaker 2: see if he'll tell us why he's ghosting you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, plays song, come back, meet your first day, follow

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Speaker 2: up next. If you're just joining us for today's First

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Speaker 2: Day follow up. Lauren is on the phone and she's

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Speaker 2: getting ghosted by a dude named Sammy. So in a second,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna call him see if'll tell us why he's

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Speaker 2: ghosting her and maybe get her another date if she

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Speaker 2: still wants one. But before we do that, Lauren, why

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Speaker 2: don't you catch us up on your situation?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, basically, I had like two really nice dates

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Speaker 5: with this guy, and I went for date number three

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Speaker 5: and he was m I A. And he has not

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Speaker 5: talked to me whatsoever. And I don't understand why I'm

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Speaker 5: being ghosted.

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Speaker 2: And you think you might be blocked even.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, blocked me?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 5: I didn't take him for being a coward. So that's

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Speaker 5: why I'm so con cute.

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: You ready for us to call him?

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Speaker 5: It's ready to all for me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, here we go. Hello him, I speak to

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Speaker 2: Sammy please?

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is him, Sammy, what's up? This is Jewbile. My

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Speaker 2: name is Jeubel. I host a radio show. It's called

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Speaker 2: the Jubil Show.

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Speaker 1: How's it going, Sammy? The whole show's here. I'm Nina

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Speaker 1: Hi and I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 5: Oh Hi, Hi? All right?

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Speaker 2: You ever listened to the show.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I mean I've ever heard you guys, well.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of first a follow up before?

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Speaker 5: Uh? I have. I'm starting to get nervous here.

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Speaker 2: But don't be nervous because we're calling you because somebody

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Speaker 2: did send us an email about you. So maybe be nervous.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. But it's a segment where if you're

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Speaker 2: ghosting somebody, they can email us to get you on

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Speaker 2: the phone and ask why you're ghosting them. And we

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Speaker 2: got an email about you from somebody.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I think I probably know who you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: You want to try to take a guess at the name.

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Speaker 5: Lauren?

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Speaker 2: Yes, Sammy, you're correct. You've won absolutely nothing. But Lauren,

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Speaker 2: do you mind telling us why you're ghosting her?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 6: All right, Look, we we texted for a while. It

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Speaker 6: was great, we meet for the date. Chemistry is there,

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Speaker 6: she's really cool, she's hot. Everything was good, and then

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Speaker 6: at some point the conversation turns around to like, you know,

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Speaker 6: relationship stuff. You know, we're just talking about like relationship

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Speaker 6: things like you know, are you ever gonna have kids?

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Speaker 6: Are you ever gonna get well? I don't know whatever,

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Speaker 6: you know, just stuff like about relationship. Okay, And at

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Speaker 6: one point I asked her what her definition of cheating

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Speaker 6: is If a guy goes to a strip club, is

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Speaker 6: that cheating that sort of thing, you know what I mean? Yeah,

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Speaker 6: And let's just say that her perspective is pretty strict.

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Speaker 6: She said even watching adult movies was cheating. That to

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Speaker 2: Extreme, and nobody's gonna take that from you.

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Speaker 6: So you're saying, it's not like I watched it all

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Speaker 6: the time, but it is a part of my life

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Speaker 6: and it is that I enjoy. I don't know, it

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Speaker 6: just feels like that to me. He's not cheating, you know,

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Speaker 6: that's just like entertainment.

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Speaker 1: So did you have that conversation with her and express

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Speaker 6: Oh, I mean, I just kind of got awkward and

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Speaker 6: it kind of gave me the ick, you know what

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Speaker 2: And it was weird, and I.

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Speaker 4: Gave you an it. Okay, that's that's new.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want to be a cheater, like

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: It's like she can feel however, she wants to feel

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Speaker 6: and that's totally fine. But I just kind of realized,

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Speaker 6: I maybe I should have said something I didn't. I mean,

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Speaker 6: it was great, you know, that was fun. But the

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Speaker 6: what do you say to that. Do you say, like,

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Speaker 6: wait a minute, I gotta watch this don't movie.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I would want to get to the

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Speaker 1: whether it's about the adult film or just like do

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Speaker 1: you want to get married, but like to understand where

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Speaker 1: She might have been into it if she was like,

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Speaker 1: it's not cheating if you watch it with me.

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Speaker 5: No, Can I just say something right now. It is

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Speaker 5: absolutely textbook cheating, Like no matter who he's watching it.

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Speaker 2: With, Sammy, Wait a minute, Lauren, Wait, Lauren's here. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's Lauren. She's on the phone listening and wants to

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Speaker 2: talk to you. Oh man, oh man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. And I came here to get answers. This was

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Speaker 5: not one I was expecting to get of all the

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Speaker 5: reasons that could be. But you know, like I have

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Speaker 5: sort of I'm wondering, like why he was so like

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Speaker 3: He was mimicking a performance like he's had Funny's.

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Speaker 5: Experience watching these tutorials. If you will, do you see,

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Speaker 5: it can be a good thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, And.

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Speaker 5: You know, while we're putting everything out on the table

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Speaker 5: right now, I just want to ask something like, you know,

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Speaker 5: of time in between, you know, Gate one and date two.

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Speaker 5: So what were you doing during that time? Were you

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Speaker 5: spending your time like prepping, you know, watching all these

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Speaker 5: videos cheating? You know what were you doing? Well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I watched some videos in between. That's what the mot

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Speaker 5: people do. Okay, So the gist of it is you

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Speaker 5: were cheating on me. We weren't experiences. We'd gone on

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Speaker 5: a date. What are you talking about? You know what?

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Speaker 5: This is cheating against test books? Cheating. It should just

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Speaker 5: be between two people. It's it's to me, it's no

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Speaker 5: different than cheating, swinging, watching for it's all the same group,

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Speaker 5: it all together and Gary, I'm like thinking that you're amazing,

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Speaker 5: But it turns out I's been blinded by something because

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Speaker 5: you could not even.

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Speaker 3: Say faithful to me for two dates.

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Speaker 6: What I mean, Look, it wasn't like I was watching

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Speaker 6: videos of girls that looked like you. I was watching

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Speaker 6: videos of like other types of matter what they look like, Lauren,

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Speaker 6: We went on to dates.

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Speaker 5: It's not like we were engaged. Like, this is wild

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Speaker 5: to me. Really, you're forgetting in those four Actually it

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Speaker 5: was six hours that we spent together, not four like

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Speaker 5: you said. I guess you're forgetting half the things you

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Speaker 5: said to me during that day. But it's cool, it's fine.

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Speaker 6: I didn't make commitments and I'm am I in single

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Speaker 6: white female right now?

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Speaker 5: What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Is that another adult video? Kind of yeah about.

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Speaker 5: A crazy girl. I'm scared.

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Speaker 6: I don't know this is wild, man.

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Speaker 5: I really don't think you would be acting pretty nor.

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Speaker 5: I think you'd be pretty crazy if you just found

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Speaker 5: out you got cheated on too.

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Speaker 6: Okay, buddy, if you came to me and said, hey,

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Speaker 6: I was watching a bunch of porn this week, I'd

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Speaker 6: be like, hell yeah, look I didn't see it on you.

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Speaker 6: We weren't together, we went on two days.

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Speaker 5: This is not okay. You can come up with an

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Speaker 5: excuse avers you try to, like, you know, floss it

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Speaker 5: all over and whatever you want to say, but like

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Speaker 5: you're a cheater and I do not ever want to

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Speaker 5: see you again.

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Speaker 2: Well, I haven't asked you that, Sammy. Would you like

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Speaker 2: to go on another day with Lauren? Will pay for it?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 6: No, I would like to log into my internet and

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Speaker 6: watch some art films now, thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, I think that's really just proved my point

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Speaker 5: that I've been talking about with my friends, like every

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Speaker 5: single guy out there is a cheater in some way,

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Speaker 5: shape or form.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's a good way to put it.

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Speaker 6: But sure, all right, Lauren, you know I just nobody

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Speaker 6: asked you to talk, right.

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