1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole for being suspicious of my 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: girlfriend's friend after she tried to test me? 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: I hate the tests. The relationship tests. 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Are Oh I hate them. Oh I didn't realize that's. 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it must be a relationship. 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate one. Like, like I've seen a lot 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: of those videos. Yeah, you see if he'll the that's weird. Also, 8 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I feel like that would destroy the boyfriend and the 9 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: friends relationship going forward. Like as if I were that 10 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: partner and someone tested me, I would never forget that. 11 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: I'd be like, I'm super not comfortable being around your friend. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what she got to test me with? Next? 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? No, just like in general, like is she testing 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: her or she's flirting with me? I'd be so uncomfortable. 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: But let's see what really Harper thirty two forty two 16 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: three says I thirty male have been dating my girlfriend 17 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Olivia twenty three female for the last one year. For 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: the last one year? 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: Who says last one? I know? 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I was like, what for the last year? We met 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: at a coffee shop near my office, which I used 22 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: to frequent to get my morning coffee, and she worked 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: there as a barista. I asked her out and she 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: said yes, things have been great so far, and I 25 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: feel we are compatible in terms of what we like 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: and want from a relationship. She has a group of 27 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: three girlfriends she is close with. These girls are always 28 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: very welcoming to me, but they seem very immature compared 29 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,919 Speaker 1: to my friends. They are twenty three and you are thirty. 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: They seem a lot younger than me. 31 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder what is the different. 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: One of the girls is Harper. 33 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 2: A seven year difference is pretty massive. 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: As a twenty three year old and a thirty year old. 35 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: I was dating a twenty year old, It's weird, and. 36 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Then being like, why are they so immature? 37 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, they're like talking about studying for tests like 38 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 2: ages ago. Yeah, grow up. 39 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: One of the girls is Harper, twenty three female. Harper 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: is awesome and we get along well since we like 41 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: the same video games and music. That's funny. Recently, Olivia 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: and I were talking about taking our relationship to thee 43 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: and I asked her to move in with me. She 44 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: spends four to five nights a week at my place anyway, 45 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: so I asked her to just move in. 46 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: Okay. 47 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: For some reason, her parents are the most excited about this, 48 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: as she is finally moving out of their house. She 49 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: also told her friends about the same. So finally, it's 50 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: been like maybe a year since she graduated in college. 51 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean did she Well, she could have. 52 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: Been unless she was Yeah, unless she went to community 53 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: college and. 54 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: She was with that's true, which often happens. Yeah. 55 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: On Saturday, Olivia decided to stay back at her parents' 56 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: house to pack some of her things. Harper messaged Olivia 57 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: and me that she and her friends were downtown and 58 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: if we wanted to hang out with her. Olivia was gone, 59 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: but she told me it was okay if I wanted 60 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: to go out for drinks with the girls. With the gurlies, 61 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: I had nothing to do, and hence I joined them. 62 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: It was all three of her friends and me, and 63 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: we went to a few bars. We lost the other 64 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: two girls midway and it was just Harper and I. 65 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: Mono Umano. 66 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: I was constantly messaging Olivia about what was going on 67 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: as I started to get uncomfortable with the situation. As 68 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: it was getting late, I told Harper that I would 69 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: get an uber for her to drop her home. She 70 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: told me that she wanted to go dancing. At this point, 71 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: she was visibly getting drunk. I called an uber for her. Anyway, 72 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: as we were leaving the bar, Harper grabbed my T 73 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: shirt and tried to kiss me. I immediately yeah, I 74 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: immediately pulled back and told her that this was making 75 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: me uncomfortable and I would let it pass since she 76 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: was drunk. She apologized to me. As we were waiting 77 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: for ern uber, she again started getting handsy and told 78 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: me let's go back to your place and no one 79 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: needs to know. I snapped at her at this point 80 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: and told her to please shut up until she got 81 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: in the car. Finally, the uber came and I got 82 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: Harper to get in. 83 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: Okay, but I see you in the chat. 84 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I see I mean beyond what 85 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: we originally now see. 86 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: You in the comments, if you see what Harper is 87 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: going to try. 88 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: To pull, beyond the tricking. 89 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: Because I think right now conspiracy theory. 90 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Right now you think that Harper, Hey, come on, let me. 91 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: God, this is like when we were talking about Elon Musk. 92 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: You would let me get a word. 93 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: That's not true. That was not me. 94 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: You would not let me. 95 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 4: It was both of you, both of you were I 96 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 4: want to say, my conspiracy theory is that Harper is 97 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 4: going to say, oh, I was just testing. 98 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: To cover up the bag, that she was just trying 99 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 2: to hook up with them. 100 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I was gonna say. Anyway, she kept 101 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: apologizing to me and telling me, please don't tell Olivia. Finally, 102 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: her uber left and I tracked it on my phone 103 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: to make sure she reached home. I asked Olivia to 104 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: check with Harper's roommate if she got safely to her apartment. 105 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: As I was walking home, I called Olivia and told 106 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: her about what happened. This Lloyford is so loyal. Harper's 107 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: like DoD Tee. He's like, I'm telling her immediately. 108 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: I mean, he has loyalty to so I'm saying, yeah, 109 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: he's good. 110 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Olivia was crying, and I was genuinely pissed at Harper's behavior. 111 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: Olivia tried to call Harper at night, but her phone 112 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 1: was going straight to her voicemail. In the morning, Olivia 113 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: came home and told me, Hey, it's all good. It 114 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: was just a test. 115 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 2: Wait what test? Because it sounds like Olivia did not 116 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: know about the test. 117 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Sounds like Olivia did not know about the test. Okay, 118 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: but let's find out. I was angry at this point, 119 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: and I asked Olivia to explain what was going on. 120 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: So Harper messaged Olivia in the morning that Olivia was 121 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: really lucky and that I passed the test. I asked 122 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Olivia if she was involved in this, and she did 123 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: not know that Harper was going to test me. She's 124 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: lying to you. 125 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: Harper'sing but brilliant. 126 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: Cover, brilliant, but also so obvious. 127 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: I was just trying to make sure. 128 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: I needed to make sure he was right for you. 129 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: And if we hooked up, then you would have known. 130 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, if we had made out, you would have known 131 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: that he failed the test, and if we started dating, 132 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: you would have known he wasn't right. 133 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: I mean, she's not wrong, not wrong, She's not wrong. 134 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: According to Harper, she wanted to make sure that I 135 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: was not a cheater before Olivia moved in with me, 136 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: and she wanted to see if I accepted her advances. 137 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: I told Olivia that Harper is full of shit because 138 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: she was drunk and there's no way she was thinking straight. 139 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 140 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: Moreover, when I snapped at her, she apologized and told 141 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: me not to tell you anything. Harper is just trying 142 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: to cover for her mistake and is giving a BS excuse. 143 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: I conspiracy theorized correctly. You. 144 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: Olivia thinks I'm overreacting. According to her, Harper is her 145 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: best friend and will never betray her. She she did. 146 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: She you can't do a test if you don't know 147 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: about it. 148 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 2: So I hate the idea of these. 149 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: Oh no tests in general horrible, but also it's it's 150 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 1: not a it's also not a test if. 151 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: It's also a test, not a test, not a test. 152 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: Although the test was stupid and Harper should apologize to me, 153 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: she was just looking for Olivia's best interest. Also, Olivia 154 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: feels nothing happened, so I should not make a big 155 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: deal of it. 156 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 5: I just feel Olivia because op didn't do anything or nothing. 157 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: Happened like what would have happened if he went through 158 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: with it. I just feel Olivia is dumb and cannot 159 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 1: see that her friend tried to get her boyfriend to cheat. 160 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: I just feel she's too immature to understand Harper's true intentions, 161 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: and it's bothering me. I told her to stay away 162 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: from Harper if she wanted us to have a happy relationship. 163 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: Am I the a hole to tell Olivia to not 164 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: believe Harper's lies or do you think Harper's story checks 165 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: out and I'm just overreacting. I've never heard of anyone 166 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: hitting on their friend's boyfriend to test the relationship, and 167 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: seems like the most bs excuses and there is an update. 168 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: Okay, so on the question is like, like, is op 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 2: overreacting or whatever? No, No, not at all. And the 170 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: question has anyone heard about this happening? Yes, we have 171 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: heard on this show about friends testing other friends. But 172 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 2: how a test should work. 173 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: And should never be done. 174 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: Done to take idea, but if you were to do it, 175 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: the right way to do it is the person in 176 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: the relationship and the friends say we're going to test. 177 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: It's scheming the boyfriend. They scheme together, and then with 178 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 2: both of them knowing beforehand, the friend goes and tries 179 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 2: to like hook up with the boyfriend or whatever, and 180 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: then then they see. 181 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: Yes, but there was put another end. 182 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, friend, do not do this. 183 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: Don't do that. 184 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: It is a bad idea. 185 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: That's a bad idea. 186 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: But if you were to do this, it's not the 187 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: way that it would be done. And I think what 188 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 2: Harper's is doing is she's she's is a big fat 189 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: cheater and she doesn't like her friends yeah, it's bad friend. 190 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: Bad friend. Yeah there is but op falt of the earth. 191 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 2: Great guy, Yeah, good good on. 192 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: Test. 193 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah you passed the test even though it clearly wasn't 194 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: a test. 195 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: Loki though, like he did pass the test. 196 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: He did, Loki, it worked, it worked, it worked. An 197 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: extra credit for telling the girlfriend about it exactly. There 198 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: is an update. 199 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 2: Okay, what's the update? 200 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: Before I go to the update, let me address the 201 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: issue that most of the comments were discussing. Yes, I 202 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: am aware that there is a seven year age gap 203 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 1: between Olivia and me. It also doesn't help that I'm 204 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: a six or four muscular dude and she's a five 205 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 1: three petite runner. 206 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 2: Why doesn't what is the height of I mean that 207 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: this is pretty bad. It's a foot just left her up. 208 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: I don't like you at that height difference. You have 209 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: to crane down. 210 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: That's a long distance relationship. 211 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: But I feel like he's he's using that as like 212 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: in reference to the seven year age gap. Don't think 213 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: height's relevant to well, I think it makes it makes 214 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: it even weirder. Oh, because she looks and smaller than him. 215 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: I have dated girls my age, some girls slightly older 216 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: than me and Olivia. I don't think maturity is a 217 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: function of age, and I have dated girls my age 218 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: who are way more childish than Olivia. 219 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,599 Speaker 2: Out of he literally said they did, But did he 220 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: say Olivia was. 221 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: I don't think out of all my relationships, I have 222 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: been the happiest in the last year with Olivia. She's 223 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: not as academically gifted as I am. 224 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: Jesus, she's freaking sort all muscular and smart. 225 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: But she is ambitious and driven. She's a long distance runner, 226 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: runs two to three marathons per year, and it's finishing 227 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 1: her fitness training certifications. I am proud of her and 228 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: how she takes care of herself. The relationship just works 229 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: for us. 230 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: You know, seven years is a lot, but I don't 231 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: think it's. 232 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: It's working for you. 233 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's working for you, but it doesn't seem like 234 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,599 Speaker 2: it's right. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think because of 235 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 2: the seven year difference, you're having this imagistry ship. The 236 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 2: friends circle of her is super immature. And also it 237 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: sounds like she's like very gullible and maybe like immature 238 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: as well. Yeah, believing Harper. 239 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: We'll remember she's not as academically that's for the update. 240 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Harper told Olivia that she was just testing me, and 241 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 1: Olivia initially agreed with her explanation. We discussed it and 242 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: I told her my side of the story. I told 243 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: her that Harper is bad news, but it's her choice 244 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: if she wants to be friends with her. Olivia was 245 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: more pissed at Harper that she didn't tell her about 246 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: the test beforehand, and had her doubts about Harper's story. 247 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: I decided to drop the issue since I don't want 248 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: Olivia to be broken off from her friends group because 249 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: of me. Olivia just couldn't get over the incident and 250 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: kept on asking me for more details every day. Finally, 251 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: yesterday we had a long discussion about it. I told 252 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: her that testing someone's boyfriend is a very insecure thing 253 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: to do. Doing it without telling Olivia was horrible, as 254 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: she did try to kiss me and physically seduce me 255 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: into coming to our apartment. My point was, if my 256 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: friend ever tried to kiss Olivia and ask her to 257 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: cheat on me, I would immediately drop that friend if 258 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: not do something worse. She understood that, but kept on 259 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: repeating what if Harper was just acting convincingly and did 260 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: something stupid but not evil. She told me that although 261 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: Harper is very promiscuous. She would never try to steal 262 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: someone's boyfriend, except for when she does. She did. She 263 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: also told me that Harper has a type of guy 264 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: who she dates, and I'm not the type of guy. 265 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: She would date. 266 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't want to admit it, but that did 267 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: hurt her. I don't want to admit it, but that 268 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: did hurt my ego. 269 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 3: Why m. 270 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: Hmmm. 271 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: Olivia just kept on repeating that we would never really 272 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: know what Harper was thinking that night. We would never 273 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: know she She literally told she may be trying to 274 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: test me, but got drunk and went too far. I 275 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: told Olivia that maybe she should test Harper and see 276 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: what was really in her mind. Olivia was confused, but 277 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: went with what I was saying. Oh, so. 278 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: He was maybe I should test Harper and try to 279 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: hook up with her. 280 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and if I kiss her, what would you do, Olivia? Yes, no, Yes, 281 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: he's saying we should test her. No, Olivia was confused, 282 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: but went with what I was saying. I told Olivia 283 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: to message Harper that she was going to visit her 284 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: parents place over the weekend and asked her to meet 285 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: for brunch on Sunday. Harper replied and said and said 286 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: it sounded great, and they decided a place to meet 287 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: After an hour. Olivia and I messaged Harper from my 288 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 1: snapchat with just a blank image and said, thinking about you. 289 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: We waited for ten minutes, and Harper replied with two 290 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: topless bathroom selfies. Bro say, testing him in ten minutes. 291 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: Wow, that's fast. 292 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 293 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: Olivia was beyond mad at this point, but I told 294 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: her to wait and see what happens next. 295 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 3: Hold on, I get more. 296 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm less on your side, Now. 297 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 3: We can get more. 298 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: Harper then replied, saying, hey, Olivia's gone for the weekend. 299 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I can show you this in person on Saturday. 300 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: At this point, Olivia was just trying to keep it together. 301 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: She snatched the phone from my hand, took a selfie 302 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: of her face and messaged it to Harper. 303 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 3: What do you think? 304 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: Harper said. Harper started blowing up Olivia's phone with missed 305 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: calls and frantically messaging her. Her excuse was again, I 306 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: was right about your boyfriend. He is it cheat. I 307 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: was testing him to see what was on his mind. 308 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: Olivia did not reply to any of her messages, and 309 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: it took a while to console her. I felt bad 310 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: about blowing up their friendship, but I knew what Harper 311 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: was doing that night, and I felt she should not 312 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: get away with it. Did I do something extremely immature 313 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: for a thirty year old guy? Yes? 314 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: Okay? Good? 315 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: Did it feel good? Also? Yes? What did? 316 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 2: What did? 317 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: What? 318 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: What was immature about what he did? The test? 319 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: The second test? 320 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh yeah? 321 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: I feel any person Okay, I keep going, but I 322 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 5: want to, like think about your thoughts, and I want 323 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 5: to circle back on the immaturity of the test. 324 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: I feel any person hitting on their friends partner deserves 325 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: this treatment, irrespective of their age. I don't know if 326 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: Olivia and Harper would patch up in the future, or 327 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: how it will affect her friend's group. I sometimes feel 328 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: guilty for the fact that I went out for drinks 329 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: with Harper and her friends and that led to this 330 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: whole situation. Olivia does not deserve to have her best 331 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: friend betray her try in this way. So in the 332 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: spirit of this subreddit, am I the a hole for 333 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: testing my girlfriend's friend who tried to test me? And 334 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: there are two relevant comments. Creative Garden seventy one to 335 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: fifty five says not the a hole at least Olivia 336 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: knows the truth about her friend. Now, So are you 337 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: and Olivia going forward with her plans to move in 338 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: with you? You mentioned that in your original post. Opie says, yes, 339 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: that was never off the table for me. I know 340 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: it's easy to judge Olivia based on one incident. We 341 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: have been dating for almost a year, and I am 342 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: excited for her to move in. That's good. At least 343 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: the relationship's good. 344 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. So all right, I think the question that I 345 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: want to ask all of you and I want to 346 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: discussed right now, is is it immature for Op to 347 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: test Harper and Olivia's friendship? And I'm going to say 348 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: no because Harper or because Olivia wasn't like eating or understanding. 349 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Olivia needed proof. 350 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: Olivia, you needed Yeah, Olivia needed proof And like there 351 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: already was enough proof that this friend was a bad friend. 352 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: But if she, if Op had not done anything, then 353 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 2: that friend Harper could have caused a havoc in Olivia's life. 354 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: Have still turn it on on the boyfriend and then 355 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: like he was flirting with me. 356 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 2: Exactly, So it's like better to agree weed that person 357 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: out now? Yeah then wait, and so like I feel 358 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 2: bad for saying this, But it's like, I feel like 359 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 2: the test was necessary, which goes against like, No. 360 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: I don't think it does, because I think testing your 361 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: partner is different than testing a friend who you already know, 362 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: like op knew that Harper was like actively right. I 363 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: think that's totally different. 364 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's still is it still is create Like essentially, 365 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: what a test is is creating a false scenario. Yeah, test, 366 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: It's like you are testing the veracity of your your 367 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: your testing the ail of the authenticity of a relationship. 368 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 369 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: I do think in this case it is different. I 370 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: think it's different in this case only because Harp approved 371 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: multiple times that she was untrustworthy and Olivia needed. 372 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 2: Are you saying question? Let's say you caught your partner 373 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 2: cheating and you you resolved everything blah blah blah, you're 374 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 2: in the relationship going forward, and you were suspicious again 375 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 2: of that partner cheating. Do you think a test is warranted? 376 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: I think I think that we kind of talked about 377 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: this in regard to looking through someone's phone. I think 378 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: looking through someone's phone or testing your partner is a 379 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: relationship ender, so you better be sure, Like I think 380 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: your relationship is over after. 381 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: That kind of yeah. 382 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so like if you're right, you're right. 383 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: Friends or partners, Yeah, because it's like basically you have 384 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 2: a you've eroded trust your point where you need to 385 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: test them, where you need to test them. 386 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, if you need to test them, your 387 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: relationships over regardless like that, I think point blank for me, damn, 388 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: that's why I don't think you should do it, because 389 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: that means the relationship's over. 390 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: But I feel like people have tested their partners and continued. 391 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: On, whereas people do that all the time. But I'm 392 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: just saying personally, like I think that, but like, yeah, 393 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: the trust isn't there, it's not there, Like your relationship 394 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: is not going to be the same if you do this. 395 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. So you're so what you're so inconcrete 396 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: what you're saying, we're good golden rules. What you're saying 397 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: is OP did nothing wrong in terms of like testing Harper, 398 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: but in OP testing Harper and Olivia testing Harper, like 399 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: even if she passed, that relationship would be over. 400 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think if Harper found out 401 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: that it was a test, I think that would have 402 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: been that did that changes fundamentally changes but also I think. 403 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: It's untimally changed the relations from Harper and Olivia. 404 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's totally like, I just don't 405 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: think it's relevant in this case because Opie knows for 406 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: a yeah, a fact, Like it's totally different when you're 407 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: testing someone and you know for a fact that they 408 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: did it and they just keep lying. Yeah, like you 409 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: already don't want that relationship, you know. 410 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, where it's like you basically like you know someone's lying, 411 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 2: but the test is like the final nail. 412 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 3: You proved to yourself that it's like like here. 413 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: But also he needed to prove it to Olivia, who. 414 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: Wasn't sure, who isn't academically. 415 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't think. I don't think we're going 416 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: back on our previous statement about testing. 417 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, generally, testing not a good idea. This is an 418 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: episode from Deep Within the Archives. 419 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: Time for okop relash. 420 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: She cheated on me, so I had a threesome with 421 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: her ex boyfriend and the male mistress. 422 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 3: But now I think I'm in love with both of them. Okay, 423 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,479 Speaker 3: So we've had messy, messy, messy relationship stories on this podcast. 424 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: Is the messiest. I mean, this is just spread in 425 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: noodles and boloney sauce all over your body and then 426 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 2: letting it bake in the hot sun, become all crusty, 427 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: and then rolling in some some mud and next to 428 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: a paddock of now's kind of messy that it is? 429 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: That it is that level of messy. 430 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: Wow? 431 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 3: This wee make a great rom com. Oh yeah, it 432 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 3: was me Thedmark male mistress. But there was only one problem. 433 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 3: I'm in love with them. I'm in love with bull Jerry. 434 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 3: What are you doing here? 435 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god? Bro? 436 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: Game of bones? Oh, everyone gets it cock. 437 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 2: Blocked and locked. To clear up any confusion, I am 438 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: a bisexual man and I love sharing this story, and 439 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: I'd love to share the story because I'm very proud 440 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: of it. A few years ago, my girlfriend cheated on 441 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: me with another guy, sad bad. She then had the 442 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 2: odddacity to tell me that if I was a grown 443 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: up that I could deal with it, and she hopes 444 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: we could still be friends, but she's lost any feelings 445 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 2: for me and is fully in love with this new guy. 446 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 447 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very mature way to tell your your your 448 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: boyfriend that you've been cheating on him. 449 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 3: Like literally, could you not just no break up first? 450 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 451 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 3: Come on. 452 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 2: God, if she hadn't said that, I probably wouldn't have 453 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: made this plan. But now I had to teach her 454 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: a valuable lesson because this guy, he's not getting revenge, 455 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: he's educating. 456 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 3: That is right, sitting down classes in session. 457 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: I was in a depressed state for a long time 458 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: and couldn't bring myself to delete her number. And she 459 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: thought I was her friend now, so she started to 460 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: send me pictures of her and her new boyfriends. Stop 461 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: it with laughing emojis, No, with laughing Amo, she's laughing 462 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: in her face. Oh my god, she's laughing in his face. 463 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 3: God. She didn't even care about how much she had 464 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 3: hurt me. Wow. 465 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: And then one fateful day, John Oh, while I went 466 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: through Tender, I found someone who looked quite familiar her 467 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 2: new boyfriend. Of course, I wouldn't tell her that her 468 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 2: new boyfriend is on Tender. In fact, I just went 469 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 2: and matched with him. Ooh, which was quite surprising because 470 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: I thought he was straight. 471 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: Oh. 472 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 2: He didn't stop me from starting a conversation. Bisexual Poppy 473 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 2: was good a steamy conversation. 474 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 3: He didn't know who I was. She never told him. 475 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: She never told him. She was in a relationship while 476 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: she was flirting with him. 477 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 2: But this was perfect. We had longer conversations and he 478 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 2: told me more and more about himself. Over the weeks, 479 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: we learned about each other and now I had a 480 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: master plan. 481 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: Oh god, this is so devious. 482 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 2: I suggested that we could meet up with each other 483 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: at a bar. He agreed. Keep in mind he was 484 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: still in a relationship with my ex girlfriend at the time. 485 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: The people man, Yo, the statistic fifty percent of men 486 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: cheating a relationship in twenty five percent of women cheating 487 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: a relations And. 488 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: So now and then it's now that the bisexual component 489 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 3: is there. 490 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: Oh wow, there's just more options to cheat one whoa. Well, 491 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 2: we went to the bar and we had a great time, 492 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: and one date became and one date became two dates 493 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 2: became three dates became many more dates. 494 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: Dang. 495 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: It took a few months, but then I got him 496 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: to the point where he developed feelings for me. Oh 497 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 2: my god, I was his sexy, smutty affair. 498 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: Oh god, what he didn't know? 499 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 2: What he didn't now, John, I got in contact with 500 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: my girlfriend's former ex boyfriend as well. Why did he 501 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: break up with her, you asked, John, Well, he broke 502 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: up with her because he came out as gay. I 503 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: was in contact with both guys, the ex boyfriend and 504 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: the current boyfriend. In our conversations with my new boyfriend, 505 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 2: we talked about our sexual desires and he told me 506 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 2: that he always wanted to have a threesome, So I 507 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: suggested one with who other than the gay ex boyfriend. 508 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: Bro The chances, The chances insane, The odds are off 509 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 3: off the charts, ladies and gentlemen. 510 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: I knew he was his type because we kind of 511 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: look alike and he had feelings for me. So I 512 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: asked the gay ex boyfriend if you wanted to become 513 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: the third and to my surprise, he said. 514 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 3: Yes, Wow, you got You gotta give it up for 515 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: the pure, like the execution you're the execution is flawsy credit, 516 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 3: like you need to run some fortune five hundred company 517 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 3: because but wait, John. 518 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 2: It gets crazier. Oh god, I'm honestly still surprised how 519 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: all of this worked out without her noticing, but it did. 520 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: And then the day of the threesome occurred, and that's 521 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: when I decided to go nuclear. He hasn't got nuclear yet. 522 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: He's going nuclear right now in front of her. The 523 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: two guys came to my apartment. I led them to 524 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: the bedroom and they started talking to each other, making 525 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: small talk with their big cocks. While they talked, I 526 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: took a selfie from a safe distance, close enough that 527 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: she could see their faces, but far enough away that 528 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 2: they wouldn't notice. Oh, I see, and the action started. 529 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: Of course, I won't go any of course I won't 530 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: go into any details here. But god damn, did I 531 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 2: enjoy myself more than anything in the world. 532 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: Oh. 533 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 2: A few days after I told him how. A few 534 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: days after this, I told him that, now that I 535 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: granted him the wish of the freeze. A few days later, 536 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: after I told him that, now that I granted him 537 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: the wish of a threesome, I wanted something in return. 538 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: I told him that I don't want to be in 539 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 2: a any longer. I told him, hey, I have feelings 540 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: for you, and that you should break up with her 541 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: or I will break up with him. Oh it's an ultimatum. 542 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 3: Baby. 543 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 544 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 3: For a second, I thought, wait, so does she know? 545 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: She doesn't know yet? 546 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: Wow? Wow wow wow wow wow wow. 547 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 2: I knew it was hardcore manipulative, but I had a plan, 548 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 2: and I had full control over him. He was my 549 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 2: puppet and I could do whatever I wanted. 550 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 3: Jeez, girl. 551 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: So I guess what he did, John tell me Sam. 552 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: He broke up with her. And it gets worse. 553 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 3: He threw her out. Oh she was living with him, 554 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 3: they were living together. Oh my god. 555 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: I even got him to move out of his apartments 556 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: and move in with me, meaning she lost both her 557 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: home and her boyfriend. 558 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: Wow. 559 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 2: And the story could have ended here and it would 560 00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 2: be crazy. But it doesn't stand no, no what because 561 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: after she texted me as a friend and said with 562 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 2: crying emojis that her boyfriend dumbed. 563 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 3: Her and that she regrets leaving me and that she 564 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 3: just wants me back. 565 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: Oh. 566 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 2: I then said, wait your boyfriend? Are you talking about 567 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 2: this guy? And I sent her the selfie. I took 568 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 2: pro the selfie not only with that boyfriend, but her 569 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 2: ex boyfriend as well. Oh my She called and texted 570 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: me several times, but I ignored her, and my plan 571 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: was almost successful. There were only there were only three 572 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 2: things left that I had to do. 573 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 3: He wasn't done with three things left. My god, this 574 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 3: is like an assassin or something. 575 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 2: The first was I told her mother with receipts, who 576 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: hates infidelity more than anything because her father cheated on 577 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 2: her mother with another woman. 578 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I can say like father, like daughter. 579 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: Her mother was angry, but thank me for telling her, 580 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: and from what I've heard, her mother cut ties with her. 581 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: But I admit that I don't know if it actually happened, 582 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: and I don't think that it happened. It would be 583 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: funny if it was true. The second thing I did 584 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: was dumping him because, unfortunately for him, although he was 585 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: hot as hell, he was a dirty cheater too, and 586 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 2: I hate infidelity as well. The last thing I did 587 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: was I went out with the gay ex boyfriend and 588 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: after a few dates, we got together and I'm happy 589 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: to say we're officially a couple. In the end, I destroyed. 590 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: In the end, I destroyed both her and the guy 591 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: she cheated on me with. But I couldn't be more 592 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 2: proud of myself. Man Ah, wow, I am speechless. This 593 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: man is the most devious, deviant DJ that ever. They 594 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 2: call the subred Nuclear Revenge for a reason. Bro, this 595 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: went nuclear. 596 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: This was like like like an Earth nuke. Geez wow, damn. 597 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 3: If you thought that's true, it was crazy. 598 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: Check out this one where op he gets his fiance 599 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 2: arrested for cheating on him or chick. The link in 600 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: our bio