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Speaker 1: You're listening the Draftings Networks, the John Anick and Kenny

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Speaker 1: Florian podcast, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that both tonight.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 5: You're your hosts, John Anick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 1: That's all. Oh, is it good to be with you.

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Speaker 1: I'm always glad when my man can't. Florida's back in

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Speaker 1: the United Statements of America. Who's the Day? Second twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three, Stepisode four six of the ny podcast And

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Speaker 1: we got the music now, Babies and gentleman. I'm a

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Speaker 1: listens to Colin Coward like we know his song is

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Speaker 1: theme song of the Anak and Floya podcast. Listen.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, man, mcsoterics, the man sl thank you so much,

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Speaker 5: and yeah, dude, it's good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Man. So we got the rights to that song, and

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Speaker 1: it was almost as as easy as Ken flow. Just

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Speaker 1: send it off a text message, you know, pretty exciting stuff.

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Speaker 1: But we didn't tease your appearance with some of the

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Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore fighters in UFC history legends all including Kenny Floury,

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Speaker 1: and I think I saw Anderson Silva, George Saint, Pierre,

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Speaker 1: Matt Sarah. So tell us all that was the last

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Speaker 1: weekend for you, and then on the back end, you know,

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Speaker 1: just tell us why you didn't promote it here on

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Speaker 1: the Edakin and Floran podcast, because I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of our listenership would have loved to have seen all

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Speaker 5: I didn't promote it because I'm a dummy and I'm

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Speaker 1: But I had a good time, man, I was. I

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Speaker 1: was out of my element there.

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Speaker 5: I had a bunch of legends, you know, champions, iconic

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Speaker 5: Uh but you know Anderson Silva, Chuck Liddel, Rampa Jackson,

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Speaker 5: I mean it was awesome. Leon Edwards was there. I

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Speaker 5: You know, we're all kind of signing and doing our

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Speaker 5: over and and and bother Leon Edwards in between signing

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Speaker 5: autographs and stuff. But I really wanted to talk to him.

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Speaker 5: That was one of the fighters I haven't really been

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Speaker 5: able to meet and talk to. It was a great time.

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Speaker 5: But you know who I think would have had the

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Speaker 5: I had sewn. First of all, thank you to all

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Speaker 5: the fans who came over and said all those nice

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Speaker 5: things about the podcast. But everyone came over not only

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Speaker 5: but how good you are at your job. I mean,

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Speaker 5: obviously that is the most common comment I get. So

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Speaker 5: I feel like I always need to relay that message

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Speaker 5: to you. Bucky, buddy, you are so much appreciated in

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Speaker 5: the UK. Dude, Like people are going nuh like, you

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Speaker 5: gotta have Annik. You know I want his autograph. You

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Speaker 5: know he should be here. We need to get some

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Speaker 1: Well that gives me chills, and I appreciate you passing

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Speaker 1: liking the show, subscribing and all of that noise. Nothing

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Speaker 1: UFC two eighty eight. Of course, we have a UFC

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Speaker 1: fight night to recap. Song You Dong, in my mind,

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Speaker 1: has never looked better in his win over Ricky Simone.

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Speaker 1: Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship took center stage. What a great

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Speaker 5: He looked phenomenal, clearly doing his work outside of the

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Speaker 1: that was very, very impressive. You know, my twin brother,

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Speaker 1: Song You Dong. He looked like he could have gone

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Speaker 1: The takedown defense, the ability to shuck Simone off every

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Speaker 1: A huge, huge win for Song You Dong. And I

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Speaker 1: Kyo Bohalio, another one of the Performance of the Night

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Speaker 1: So you wanted a three unit play on this guy.

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Speaker 5: That, Well, Bojolio is smart and he just knows how

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Speaker 5: That's where I thought he would be able to win

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Speaker 5: Just absoluteing dogs, dude. Absolutely, Mendez and Alvarez, what a fight.

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Speaker 5: First of all, just freaking kudos to those two who

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Speaker 5: There were some excellent boxing, excellent exchanges back and forth.

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Speaker 5: They were aggressive, they were going for it. It was technical,

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Speaker 5: like man, kudos to both those guys. I was loving

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Speaker 5: that fight. I thought that both guys look great. I

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Speaker 5: think Alvarez was just landing maybe a little bit harder,

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Speaker 5: was fighting a little bit smarter. Mendez looked like just

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Speaker 5: Shirk in that fight. But Alvarez, again, we know how

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Speaker 1: The underground King, right, the underground King, Eddie Alvarez. All right,

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Speaker 1: There's a few minutes. Let's get to the Ray Long

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Speaker 4: That's what I want, is.

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Speaker 1: The Ray long Minute.

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Speaker 2: The John and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, the star of UFC two eighty eight countdown.

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Speaker 3: Today. Here he drew right away. I'm trying.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to concentrate in the fight. The guy's attacking

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Speaker 4: me with the Draft Kings. God, how was your little

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Speaker 4: trip in London, Kenny?

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Speaker 1: It was great.

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Speaker 5: I hung out with a won Matt Sarah. I don't

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Speaker 5: even may know him. Uh he he's a trip man.

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Speaker 1: That dude is so funny. He is awesome.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't stop, he doesn't stop. He really doesn't stop.

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Speaker 1: So I hate to harp on this ray. You think

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Speaker 1: I give you a hard time all the time, So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Kenny a hard time, right, Okay? Think

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Speaker 1: he could let the anak imploring podcast listenership know that

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Speaker 1: he's going overseas to hang out with Anderson Silva and

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Speaker 1: George Saint Pierre, Like you maybe want to let our

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Speaker 1: listeners know, right, Like, I mean, couldn't they go like,

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Speaker 1: see your ass? Like what are we doing here? I

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Speaker 1: mean some people, some people listen to the show. I

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Speaker 1: figured he could have let them know. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: guy would have let everybody.

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Speaker 4: I thank god there was no social media back then.

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Speaker 3: That would have been a disaster with that guy.

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Speaker 1: So how are you doing? It was great to see

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Speaker 1: you shine on countdown for UFC two eighty eight. At

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Speaker 1: one point, Long goes like, all right, I'm out of here,

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Speaker 1: you know, and then they cut. I mean, absolutely beautiful

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Speaker 1: star of the show.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go back and watch.

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Speaker 1: You do need to go back and watch.

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Speaker 4: Somebody sent me a clip I got. I really do

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Speaker 4: have to go back and watch. But man, everybody's feeling good,

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Speaker 4: very psyched for this weekend. They're gonna be great fights.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just I'm just happy.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's healthy and that's all that matter is good weight, cut,

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Speaker 4: good ree high. These guys are ready to go.

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Speaker 1: All right, enough, Okay, training camp is great. Good for you.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready to go. Right. Kenny's gonna get you.

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Speaker 4: Uh, you have to stay away from the juji.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: This is this can't be natural.

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Speaker 1: I can take it down a little bit if you

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Speaker 1: would like. In terms of the energy, I mean oftentimes

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Speaker 1: I say, whether it's a UFC broadcast or the Anakin

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Speaker 1: Flooring podcast, the one thing I can control is my energy.

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Speaker 1: We've just had three successive UFC live events. I didn't

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Speaker 1: get a chance to call any of them. I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: There's no adderall, there's no speed, there's no cocaine.

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Speaker 3: Yes, wow, Kenny, I'm impressed.

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Speaker 1: Fight week, he's ready.

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Speaker 3: And I'm super impressed.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the softball and then Kenny's going

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Speaker 1: to ask you about al Jamn Sterling and Henry Shuto.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely song you.

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Speaker 1: Don't against Ricky Simon. I gotta tell you, man, I

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Speaker 1: didn't fancy song you Dong a real world title threat

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Speaker 1: until this past Saturday Night. I feel like he kind

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Speaker 1: of unleashed a different, better version that really looks like

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Speaker 1: Championship ILK. What were your thoughts on a song you don't.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I'll keep it well. First off, I don't think

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Speaker 4: he's been in a lot of good fights. I think

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Speaker 4: to me, the difference in that fight was the experience

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Speaker 4: of the guy's song was fighting before that, and Ricky

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Speaker 4: just didn't have that. Uh that's right off the bat.

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Speaker 4: He fought some really good guys. When you're in there

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Speaker 4: with good guys, anything lesser than that, I think you

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Speaker 4: see a big difference.

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Speaker 3: And I think I think, you know, Ricky Simone, he's good.

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Speaker 4: He's good. He's not great, but he is good. He's uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, he's a gamer. But uh, you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: not sure that's the fight to look at, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think Ricky was at the point, you know,

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Speaker 4: of like a Cory Sandhagen or any some of the

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Speaker 4: other guys. Marlon marays, So I think that that's why

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Speaker 4: you saw what happened. I mean, I definitely picked a

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Speaker 4: song to win that fight. I don't know, I just

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Speaker 4: looked at it. I always look at who the guys

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Speaker 4: have fought before that. That's the third thing I know,

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Speaker 4: And I just I think he fought the better competition,

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Speaker 4: and I think it really looked like that. You could

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Speaker 4: see there was a big discrepancy in a lot of

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Speaker 4: areas and I and honestly, I don't know what someone

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Speaker 4: was even trying to do in fight. He just got

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Speaker 4: stimied and shut down, and he looked like he didn't

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Speaker 4: know if he you know, I mean ken strike. You know,

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Speaker 4: we know he could wrestle. He's got a good guess,

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Speaker 4: thank it seemed like he didn't use any of those

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Speaker 4: things synergistically at any time, like you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Once he got stopped one way, he went to the

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Speaker 4: other thing, and he got stopped, he kind of came back.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was he's good. He's good, but he's not.

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Speaker 4: I think that proves that he's not where he thought

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Speaker 4: he was. I think that's where I'm kind of feeling

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Speaker 4: with that. I think he thinks he's better than he is,

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Speaker 4: and he is very good.

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Speaker 3: It's not a knock.

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Speaker 4: I just think he's got to get his head together,

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Speaker 4: a regroup, and you know, he's gonna have some tough

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Speaker 4: fights now coming up.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna have an easy go, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, yeah?

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Speaker 5: Right, you know what I'm thinking about this al Jo

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Speaker 5: at suhudo fighting. It can be a tough one, and

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Speaker 5: I guess I'm wondering where your head is at as

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Speaker 5: a coach, and how you prepare a fighter for a

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Speaker 5: guy who's been out for three years?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Is that something you.

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Speaker 5: Harp on again? So much can change in three years.

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Speaker 5: He could be a completely different fighter. Where are you mentally?

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Speaker 5: And where is al Jo mentally? And and kind of

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Speaker 5: how did you prepare for that that long layoff? And

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Speaker 5: a guy who obviously a phenomenal fighter, excellent pedigree, excellent credentials,

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Speaker 5: but you haven't seen him in a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, first off, Henry's not stupid. He's

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Speaker 4: definitely a student in a game. You know, you listen

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Speaker 4: to and break down fights. He's he sees something in

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Speaker 4: al Joe he thinks he can exploit. I think the

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Speaker 4: difference is going to be when he can't exploit it.

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Speaker 4: Does he have a plan B? Because al Joe is

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Speaker 4: a really tough guy to prepare for. He's super unorthodox.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna say al Jo sometimes doesn't know what Aljo

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Speaker 4: is gonna do. You know, and he's you know, he's

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Speaker 4: kick heavy, which isn't easy to find a guy that

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Speaker 4: could do that and mixing the takedowns, and I think

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Speaker 4: a huge discrepancy will be if al Jo gets on top,

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Speaker 4: that'll be an absolute nightmare for s hudo position where

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Speaker 4: we haven't really seen him in with a guy of

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Speaker 4: Aljo's caliber, you know, like defending his neck for.

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Speaker 3: Three or four minutes.

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Speaker 4: So uh, you know, as far as the layoff, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you just take it like the guy for last week,

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Speaker 4: we do we harp on it.

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Speaker 3: No do did we talk about and mention? Yes, of

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Speaker 3: course obviously.

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Speaker 4: It's but you don't know, you don't want to go

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Speaker 4: in there going no, he's he's got a three year layoff.

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Speaker 4: He'll never be to say that, then you'd be setting

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Speaker 4: yourself up for disasters. So you know, Aljo's camps the

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Speaker 4: last couple of times is you know, it's kind of

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Speaker 4: like a rinse and repeat. He's got his process that

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Speaker 4: he loves the way things are set up and he

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Speaker 4: sticks with it and you know, we'll just take it

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Speaker 4: from there. But I think if al Jo, you know,

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Speaker 4: like again his heads in the right spot, the rehi

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Speaker 4: goes great Aljo will be.

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Speaker 3: A nightmare for that guy.

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Speaker 4: I mean, because I you know, al Jo's just Somebody said,

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Speaker 4: will this be as tough ast fight, and I said no.

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Speaker 4: I think the second Yon fight by far was the

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Speaker 4: toughest fight because of what he had to go through

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Speaker 4: and then he had to prove it. I mean, there

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Speaker 4: had to be pressure on him, you know, just to

648
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Speaker 4: prove himself with that fight. So I think al Joe

649
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Speaker 4: right now, what you're seeing as a guy that's very,

650
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Speaker 4: very grateful to be in the position he's in. He

651
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Speaker 4: loves everything about his life. You know, training camp went

652
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Speaker 4: really well. He looked fricking phenomenal, and he's just gonna

653
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Speaker 4: take it. You know, He's just gonna fight and that's it.

654
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Speaker 4: He's not putting any pressure on himself for sure, and

655
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Speaker 4: I think that's what's really gonna make him dangerous in

656
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Speaker 4: this fight.

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Speaker 1: The Ray Long Go Matte Every week here on the

658
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Speaker 1: Anakin Flooring Podcast. I have a lot written down to

659
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Speaker 1: get to with you today. I'm gonna try to be

660
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Speaker 1: a little bit more subdued with my energy. There are

661
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Speaker 1: a lot of monotone broadcast journalists out there. If you'd

662
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Speaker 1: like me to fall in live.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no o crazy that guy.

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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday of fight week. Ray, It's Tuesday. It's one

665
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Speaker 1: pm Eastern time for me, wheels up to Newark, New

666
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Speaker 1: Jersey tomorrow morning. For you, it's weels down. You get

667
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: to drive. It's within the Tri state area. Where do

668
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Speaker 1: you leave it?

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Speaker 3: I'll be.

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00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: Wow, I gotta you might have surpassed all other episodes.

671
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Speaker 1: He's excited.

672
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Speaker 3: He's excited, very dead. Yeah, I know it's infectious.

673
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Speaker 1: I should a childcare for half a month. I can't

674
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Speaker 1: wait to get out. And it's a it's a pay

675
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Speaker 1: per view on the East Coast. It's not a huge

676
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Speaker 1: flight for him. He's excited.

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Speaker 3: You should be happy about that too.

678
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Speaker 4: But uh, I should be that Wednesday night or early

679
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Speaker 4: Thursday morning. I definitely want to make the interview, uh

680
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Speaker 4: with you and whoever you're doing it with.

681
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Speaker 3: Yeah, don't you your schedule at like twelve with him?

682
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's what it is. Yeah, I got

683
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Speaker 1: my Frank Edgar shirt on out of respect in New Jersey.

684
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Speaker 1: Looks like I'm pitting out. So the uh, the arm

685
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Speaker 1: and hammer Deodaan is failing meat today. Wow, but uh, Yeah,

686
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm excited to take a piss out.

687
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Speaker 3: Thank you. We can't keep those pits dry no matter what.

688
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Speaker 1: Oh, there's nothing. No what I do. What I've been

689
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: wearing is a lot of black clothing and that seems

690
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: to just mask the issue. But we're going fie for

691
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Speaker 1: Frank Edgar because you know we're going to New Jersey

692
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Speaker 1: this weekend. Okay, So one thing on UFC two eighty

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Speaker 1: eight countdown that al Jamaine Sterling said, and again, when

694
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Speaker 1: you're athletes like Chris Wadman and Ally quint and Aljamain

695
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Speaker 1: Sterling talk about you publicly, it's amazing for us to

696
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Speaker 1: hear because we always know you to be that guy.

697
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Speaker 1: But then when they describe you as just being a

698
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Speaker 1: great year or a great resource or taking them for

699
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Speaker 1: who they are, however quirky like the UFC Bandaway champion,

700
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Speaker 1: Aljamaine Sterling, Right, I just give you a lot of

701
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Speaker 1: credit for navigating all of these different athletes like you

702
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: think I'm out of my skull piece. How about Matt

703
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Sarah Right. Tremendous navigation by Ray Longo. But it seems

704
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Speaker 1: to me from AFAR that you and Aljamaine Sterling have

705
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Speaker 1: spent a lot more time together during this training camp

706
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Speaker 1: than the past two previous training camps where he was

707
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Speaker 1: primarily in Las Vegas. Is that true or not?

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Speaker 4: Uh, I'm gonna say, I guess that's true. But we're

709
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Speaker 4: always in communication no matter where he is. And I'll

710
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Speaker 4: tell you listen first, I'm at the point you'd have

711
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: to ask these guys. I'm forgetting at this point. It's

712
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 4: not it's not good. We just had I don't even.

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Speaker 1: Know, but but it seems as though you are very

714
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Speaker 1: Is it malleable or malleable the word right that if

715
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Speaker 1: he's in Vegas, the communication is that way if he's

716
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Speaker 1: going to be in.

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Speaker 3: Guard Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

718
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Speaker 1: And I just think that he you guys have withstood

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Speaker 1: the test of time as head coach and champion because

720
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: you guys have been able to navigate those things better

721
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Speaker 1: than a lot of athletes and coaches would.

722
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, no, I definitely try if that's what

723
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 4: no matter where he is, I mean, I try.

724
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Speaker 3: Me.

725
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 4: Look, I love the guy he's really like. Again, I

726
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 4: always say it turned out to be just a great guy.

727
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: I think it took me up bunch of years to

728
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 4: even understand him, But right now I think he's just

729
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 4: his heads in the right spot. No, it's nice that

730
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 4: these guys say if they look, I'm not the guy

731
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Speaker 4: who was ten years ago or even six years ago.

732
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Speaker 3: So I mean, if that's ever coming back, I don't know.

733
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Speaker 4: But so I try to adopt a different position, you know,

734
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: it's more of a like an overseer maybe something like that.

735
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Speaker 4: But I can't get in there and do the things

736
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Speaker 4: I used to. And I thought the other coaches tell me,

737
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 4: I think you're crazy. You shouldn't even hold beholding pants

738
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: for anybody, even Kenny, you mentioned that the other day,

739
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: Like what the hell are you doing? Like definitely telling

740
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 4: me you're out of your mind. So but I mean,

741
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 4: it's what I love to do. And if I'm gonna

742
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 4: go out, I'm gonna get carried out in that scenario.

743
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 4: But yeah, so I just try to be there for everybody.

744
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 4: It's look, these are good guys, man. We all grew

745
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 4: up on Long Island as a common bond. And you know,

746
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 4: me and Algi are always, you know, goofing around each other.

747
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: When I go to Vegas. You know, he wants to

748
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,479
Speaker 4: show me a big movie theater. Look at this movie theater.

749
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 4: You love it out here. And you know the other

750
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: day his friends came in with their kids. They were

751
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 4: like two, and I was saying, they were just telling

752
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 4: me how I wish their uncle al Joe was back.

753
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 3: On Long Island, you know.

754
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: So it's a funny, you know bit going back and forth,

755
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 4: but Vegas is definitely gonna be his home, and.

756
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 3: Bloody blody, blod, I don't even know if I'm answering

757
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 3: the question.

758
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: But no, you are. I just feel like a lot

759
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: of coaches and fighters and commentators, there's a lot of

760
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: sensitivity with all of these public figures. But I do

761
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: think with a lot of athletes and coaches, hey, if

762
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Speaker 1: you're gonna go to Las Vegas, you know, and you're

763
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna work with Eric Nickxick, you know a lot of

764
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: people might have not wanted to continue the alignment. And

765
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: I do think in large part, you just said something

766
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: very telling that it took you a few years to

767
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: really get to who al Joe was at his core,

768
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: and largely you've navigated this relationship with a champion on

769
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: his terms, with a little back and forth and a

770
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: lot of kids just given your credit, not because you're

771
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: my friend, all.

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00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 4: No, No, without a doubt, rightly, he's u Yeah, you know,

773
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: I've had some heart to hearts with him where I

774
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 4: think I really know him and I think he knows

775
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 4: exactly who I am, so he you know, maybe fifteen

776
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 4: years ago that that's in there wouldn't have worked out

777
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 4: with a younger me. You know, as they get older,

778
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: I try to be more of like a patriarch to

779
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: the team and just you know, try to inject some

780
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 4: common sense here and there, even though I might not

781
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: have any myself. But when I'm outside looking in, it's

782
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: always easier, right, So I get Look, it's all it's

783
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 4: all about the w It's all about seeing these guys succeed,

784
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: you know, accomplish their dreams. And that's what makes me happy.

785
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 4: I mean maybe I'm odd or I'm weird, but I

786
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 4: think I'm blessed with a great life through the martial arts,

787
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 4: and I want to see all my fighters have the

788
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 4: same you know, happiness and success.

789
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Speaker 3: That I did.

790
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Speaker 4: And I really think like without the martial arts, I

791
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 4: wouldn't have been no whin Well you know what I

792
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 4: say this, I probably would have had more money but

793
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,280
Speaker 4: been less happy.

794
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: You know, I have less money, and I'm happy.

795
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 4: I could retire tomorrow, but I'm just happy I'm just

796
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 4: content where I'm happy, so I'm trying to give back,

797
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: but it's it's just hard to leave, like even leave

798
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 4: the gym at this point.

799
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Speaker 3: I just I do love being there. I think it.

800
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 3: You know, it kind of keeps me young, and you

801
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: know it's got a dual purpose.

802
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 4: But I don't want to stick around too long where

803
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 4: I'm hurting anybody either.

804
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: You're not hurting anybody. You're just continuing to excel across

805
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: multiple decades. Ken Flow, get with the I anikin Florida, LLCCFO.

806
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: Let's get an extra thousand bucks to longer this quarter.

807
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 1: Because he would have been richer if he had chosen

808
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: a different path.

809
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: I knew that speed would payoff in one way for him,

810
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: he's making the irrational decisions.

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Speaker 1: By the way, if anyone does have adderall I'll be

812
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: staying at a hotel at fort You can certainly drop

813
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: it off, all right. I have a few other things

814
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: that I would like to get to with you, uh,

815
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,280
Speaker 1: and then I'll get you out here at the bottom

816
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: of the hour, very excited to give you a big

817
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: hug in Newark, New Jersey. By the way, all right,

818
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: So for UFC fight pass Kenny Floryan and I host

819
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: a segment called Anakin Floridan Rewind in which we go

820
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: back and look at fights involving talent leading up to

821
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: a big fight. So last week we looked at al

822
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: Jamaine Sterlings went over Corey sand Hagen, and we looked

823
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: at Henry Sajudo's win over Dominic Cruz. How recently did

824
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: you watch the fight between Henry Sahudo and Dominic Cruz

825
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: and was there any major extraction from that Henry performance.

826
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Kenny and I seem to remark a lot about the

827
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Speaker 1: leg kicks from Sahudo, one of myriad weapons that he

828
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,879
Speaker 1: seemed to have at his disposal against Cruisy three years ago.

829
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: No, No, watch the fight a bunch of times, of course,

830
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 4: because I mean, if anybody's got like similar movement, that's

831
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,880
Speaker 4: definitely different. But both crew, I mean both Dominic and

832
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 4: Al Joe will move. They're not really standing still too much.

833
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 4: So I did watch that fight a lot. Is a

834
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: you know, a couple of takeaways, but we'll we'll wait

835
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: to see what happens in the in the octagon. But

836
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, as a coach, the first thing

837
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: I'd like to test is Henry's gas tank for being

838
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 4: away for three years.

839
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want him fighting on his terms.

840
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: I'd like to see al Jo fight on his terms,

841
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: and Aljo's got the gas tank to to do it,

842
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 4: and that's where I hope to fight those But I'm

843
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 4: really excited this is going to be a good fight.

844
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm telling Aljo's heads in the right spot. I really

845
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 4: think this is a great fight and a really all

846
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 4: the respect to Henry, really, I think what he's accomplished

847
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 4: is unbelievable. And you know, I don't even want to

848
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: talk about the three year layoff, because yeah, you got

849
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: to assume the guy did the right thing and he's

850
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 4: ready to go. But I think he looked at al Joe,

851
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 4: like again I said at the beginning, I think he

852
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: sees something that made him really want to jump at

853
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 4: this fight that he thinks he can exploit and we'll

854
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: see if he could do it.

855
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: Ray, what do you think this does for al Joe?

856
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 5: You know, to beat someone like Sahudo, who is a

857
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 5: two division champion, Olympic gold medalist. Where do you think

858
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 5: this puts Aljo as far as his legacy in one

859
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty five pound division. If he gets to win.

860
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 4: I mean, Kenny, I think he's got he's this huge

861
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: for his legacy, you know what I mean. Look, I

862
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: did an interview the other day. They're always going to

863
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: find something to hate on, Like I just it's just

864
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 4: the way it is. But to me, I think this

865
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 4: Cementsa's legacy, you know what I mean, I really do.

866
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 4: I think with all the stuff he's been through, the

867
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 4: wind streak he's been on the way he's handled adversity,

868
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: this win over Henry is I think is huge for him.

869
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 4: Huge because Henry is a two time two division champ

870
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: and he's done some really great stuff too. Love what

871
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 4: Henry's done, and I love the way Henry walked away

872
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: from the game. I thought he did the right thing.

873
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 4: He just you know, got up and left and wanted

874
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: to try new things. And I hope he tried a

875
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 4: lot of new things instead of training. We'll see, we

876
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: have about four days. We'll see exactly what's going on.

877
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to spend a lot of time on

878
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: the greatest band of weight of all time conversation, But

879
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: you go wins over Sandhagen, yan Yan Dila shaw Shudo.

880
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: In this era, there hasn't even been a long reigning

881
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: UFC bantamweight champion. Much of Dominic Cruz's damage was in

882
00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: the WEC. This title has been the air for the

883
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: taking and as great as Dillashaw's wins over Cody Garbrandt were,

884
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: all of that is marred now. So yeah, this weekend.

885
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: To me, this is a very short conversation. Even if

886
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: Cruz is one of my best friends in the world,

887
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: it's aljaminer Sterling every day of the week.

888
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think it's a no brainer. Is a

889
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 3: no brainer.

890
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 4: But you know, let's take one fight. Let's just get

891
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 4: through this fight again. I like where Aljo's heads at.

892
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: I like what I'm saying, and really, I'm really super

893
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 4: excited for this. Really, really this is going to be

894
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 4: a good fight.

895
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Almost as excited as I am.

896
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I don't know about that. Hey,

897
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: listen to your credit. I mean you were on al

898
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: Jo's vand Wigan from day one. I will say that that's.

899
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: True, right, No, I mean I was dating to the

900
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: Johnny Atuardo fight. I felt like he could be a

901
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: world champion and he's rounded himself out. Yeah you called it,

902
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, well, thanks buddy. So in four hundred and

903
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: six episodes of this podcast, you telling us that maybe

904
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: you want to try to extend Henry a little bit.

905
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: This is probably the most telling thing you've ever told

906
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: us about one of your athletes leading up to a

907
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 1: championship fight. So we thank you for that. A couple

908
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: other moments and questions here for Ray Long go on

909
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: the way out. I think we do want to get

910
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: a prediction from you on Gilbert Burns and Balao Muhammad,

911
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: so maybe you could marinate on that a little bit.

912
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: But did you see this interaction between al Jamaine Sterling

913
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: and Henry Sahudo in New Jersey? Yeah, I mean, I

914
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: know you guys like each other, but can we I mean,

915
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: Corey Sandhagen posted a great video like what exactly is

916
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: going on here? I'm not sure if it was pleasantries.

917
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: It seemed like a very bizarre interaction. It seems like

918
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: these guys just want to be around each other. They

919
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: can't help themselves.

920
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 3: That I'm gonna sum it up.

921
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 4: That's al Jo b and al Jo I think he

922
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: whatever he said, he meant he didn't think the guy

923
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 4: was serious. He didn't know the guy was going to

924
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 4: show up right. Uh, yeah, that was funny. Man I

925
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 4: think there was absolutely no malice. He just to say

926
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 4: a load of the guy, and.

927
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: I don't.

928
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 3: I look at that stuff and I can't stop laughing.

929
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 4: I'll be honest with you, because I'll think if if

930
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 4: Henry could figure this guy out, I give him a

931
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:12,280
Speaker 4: lot of credit.

932
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kenny, I don't need like super heat and friction

933
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: on every fight. But this seemed to be a pretty

934
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: uh weird interaction for me.

935
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is one of those things where I think,

936
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 5: I think in an interesting way. Al Joe kind of

937
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 5: went up to him and just said, hey, you know,

938
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: I'm confident heading into this fight. I think he wanted

939
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 5: to get a closer look to see what Henry was

940
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: like and how he was feeling.

941
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: And I thought I thought it was an interesting interaction

942
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: as well.

943
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 5: But I thought it was a little bit of mind

944
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 5: games and then kind of Henry kind of was trying

945
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 5: to play mind games back a little bit.

946
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: And I don't know if these are interesting exchanges.

947
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 5: It's hard to gather what was going on, but uh,

948
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 5: you know, I think though that's what makes this sport

949
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 5: so damn interesting.

950
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: Man.

951
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, that was it.

952
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: I think it.

953
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: Look it was hysteric lappers I'm telling you there's not

954
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 4: a bad bone in al Joe's body. He's you know,

955
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 4: even when he gets into like, you know, arguing with

956
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 4: Henry like before, it's not the normal.

957
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 3: You don't feel that venom, that hatred. You know, he's yeah,

958
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 3: just responding like he's not. Yeah, it's it's it's a

959
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 3: it's a weird That's why I say, you've been getting

960
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: to know. You'd have to ask him. Yeah, I asked him.

961
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 4: In the fight a meeting, Well what he tell you,

962
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: and he'll you know, we'll tell you exactly what he's thinking.

963
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 4: But I think he just wanted to say hello to

964
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 4: him and just thank him for coming. I mean, as

965
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 4: weird as that, right.

966
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 5: Does Aljia You know aljo was thanking Henry for the opportunity.

967
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 5: Was he was he alluding to the fact that, like

968
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 5: this is a big fight where they could both make

969
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 5: some money, where Aljae, this is, you know, a potential

970
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 5: good money maker for al Joe. Is that what he

971
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: was kind of saying as well, because he sees it

972
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 5: as a great opportunity both because again he gets to

973
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 5: fight someone like Henry s Hudo to cement his legacy

974
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 5: to maybe make some good money.

975
00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: Yo.

976
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 4: What I'm gonna say that's probably dead on, you know

977
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: what I mean, he'll tip me the first guy tell

978
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 4: you this price fight, you know the old saying, and

979
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 4: he's you know, he's he's doing great and he wants

980
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 4: to continue to do great. But yeah, that's that I'm

981
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 4: gonna say. That's closer to what was going on than

982
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 4: anything like it was. I'm telling you, it was like

983
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 4: it was for real. It really wasn't. I don't believe

984
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 4: it was a mind game. I think he you know,

985
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 4: he just it is what it is, man. That's what

986
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 4: you get with him. He's seems fun.

987
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: I know, that is what you get with him. And

988
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: we all love al Jamaine Sterling. And even when he

989
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 1: was sort of pulling the masses as to a next opponent,

990
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: he was surprised at how many people and we've said

991
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: this before, thought he should fight a returning Henry Shudo

992
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: instead of Sean O'Malley. It was essentially fifty to fifty.

993
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: But don't sit here and tell me that the Seudo

994
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: payday is bigger than the O'Malley O'Malley payday, Raymond, I.

995
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 3: Mean, come on, no, I don't think so.

996
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, No, the O'Malley payde is that's that's the

997
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: biggest money maker in the division right now.

998
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: If you think that's doing this first is to build

999
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: up for that, I would think that the more, yeah,

1000
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 4: the more Sewan has sitting out, I think it makes

1001
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 4: for a bigger fight in in neither direction, you know,

1002
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 4: for them, they're always I think that's the way they're

1003
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 4: looking at it for sure.

1004
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: And Matt Sarah's retirement as a corner very much short lived.

1005
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: He's going to be right there alongside you this weekend.

1006
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 3: Correct, Yes, he was very happy about that.

1007
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: Okay, before we get you out of here with a

1008
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: Gilbert Burns Balau Muhammad prediction, it seemed like the promotion

1009
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: that won the weekend was bare knuckle Fighting Championships, and

1010
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: I was curious if you had any thoughts on on

1011
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: that the damage sustained and everything else that came with

1012
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: that live event.

1013
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: Uh, definitely tuned in.

1014
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 4: I think that for me to take away is you

1015
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: know that the UFC does a great job in building up,

1016
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 4: you know, brand branding individuals. I think that's why you

1017
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 4: saw a lot of people onder that you had Eddie

1018
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 4: Alvarez Mendez, Camosie who's the big.

1019
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: Guy that thought the King of Kenosha?

1020
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 3: Ben Rothwell, Ben Rothwell, you know Rock Cold.

1021
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 4: I mean it was really a UFC card ban knuckle,

1022
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 4: but you know, with a lot of guys you know

1023
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 4: in their forties, you know what I mean, or close

1024
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 4: or getting up there, So I think it was a

1025
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: My thoughts were, it's incredible how these guys could jump

1026
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 4: around like that, where I think other organizations you can't

1027
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 4: do that. So they do a great job in building

1028
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: up everybody. As far as the damage, Uh, well man, yeah,

1029
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,400
Speaker 4: it's I don't you know, I don't know what.

1030
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: Have you ever cornered an athlete in a bare knuckle setting?

1031
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no because Kenny, I'm looking at Jason

1032
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: Perillo in the Rock Cold corner and he just sort

1033
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: of looked like he had one foot in almost like

1034
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: what am I doing here? But maybe he has before.

1035
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: I just like for a corner man, it's got to

1036
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: be a new situation.

1037
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't corner, but I did help pull

1038
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 4: him up all when he fought uh the Russian guy

1039
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 4: Autumn Lowboff.

1040
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: But I wasn't in the corner, but I thought it

1041
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 3: was I felt bad for rock cold man going out

1042
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 3: like that.

1043
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: You know, right, well, you handsome guys stick up for

1044
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: each other, right.

1045
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

1046
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 4: Plus, you know if you had old shitty teeth like me, John,

1047
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 4: they wouldn't have came out. You know, those fake venea

1048
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 4: as your mother are walking on looking I'm looking.

1049
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: At her mine?

1050
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: What about them?

1051
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: Tell them? How your teeth so white? I got Florian chicklets.

1052
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: These things.

1053
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 5: These things are thick, big when I was when I

1054
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 5: was little, though, they look massive now that I have

1055
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 5: a big head normal, but these are mine.

1056
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I never got hit like. I never

1057
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: got hit in the face ever in a fight.

1058
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 3: Never ship. I don't believe this. Look at your teeth, thought.

1059
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: Look at those Peruvian tusks and his mouth. This is

1060
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:01,839
Speaker 1: what they look like back in the day.

1061
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 3: Can you stop doing that?

1062
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: You I did have braces though, I did have braces.

1063
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,839
Speaker 1: So I was just making fun of coffee teeth last week.

1064
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: Who brought that to your attention?

1065
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 3: Oh about ten people.

1066
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: I'm just having a little bit of fun. I'm not

1067
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 1: trying to be ruthless.

1068
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,479
Speaker 3: What what I got to get my teeth white?

1069
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 1: Now, no, you don't have to get your teeth white.

1070
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: And I just said enjoy your cold brew and made

1071
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: me brush your teeth on the back end.

1072
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: Just having a little fun here, you know, Yeah, tell

1073
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: you Kenny. Holy shit, I'm afraid I can't even smile

1074
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 3: anymore on you.

1075
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: Oh that's a nice earshot. My god. What's really uh yeah,

1076
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: what's really sad about all of this is that uh yeah?

1077
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Speaker 1: All right, before I let you go, Gilbert Burns a

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00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: slight betting favorite right now on Draftking sports booking against Blao,

1079
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: remembered the name Muhammad. Two hundred dollar is being sent

1080
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: your way if you can correctly predict that fight, So

1081
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,720
Speaker 1: give us directly.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think the odds is spot on.

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00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: It's a close fight.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to go with Gilbert Burns again because

1085
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,479
Speaker 4: he's fought the better competition up until this point.

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Speaker 3: But Bellole is a dog. I don't know he's gonna

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Speaker 3: make that fight. I don't know. I'm just gonna pick

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Speaker 3: Burns based on experience.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you for your contributions to the program.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna text Balal that you are picking Gilbert and

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00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: we will talk to you on Sunday afternoon. We're actually

1092
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: going to do a quick turn and take the episode

1093
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,800
Speaker 1: on Sunday, the day after the pay per views, So

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Speaker 1: I hope that doesn't interfere with your weekend, but hopefully

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00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: it's a celebration Sunday on the Attican floor and podcast Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Or what time? What time are we looking at?

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Speaker 1: Whatever time you well, I mean very late in the

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Speaker 1: day if that's what you're Oh yeah, I'm talking like

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Speaker 1: five thirty pm.

1100
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: Hen smirking over there, Kenny sent me. Can you send

1101
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 3: me your teeth whiteness or your send his name? Look

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00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: at him.

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00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: John, just because I got a little tan. That's why

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00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: they look a little wider.

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00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, man, I gotta go get real.

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00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: Rushed three times a day? How many do you? I

1107
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: mean how many times a day? You brushed? Twice?

1108
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 3: Like once a week? All right? It is that good

1109
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: a bit.

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00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: I think it's by perfect. I think it's fine. Hey,

1111
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: we love you. I look forward to seeing you in

1112
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: a couple of days, buddy, all the best without Joe.

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00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah, let's just say Butla looks great. Shout

1114
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: out tool man. It's good to get some love. He'll

1115
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 4: be very very sensitive. So that's we will. That's gonna

1116
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 4: be an interesting fight. They both have really tough fights

1117
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 4: against great opponents, and that's what you want.

1118
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna be.

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00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 1: A great everybody the pading line on that one.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure for Vols are huge underdog.

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00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: Not that big plus one eighty Drew dobermanus two ten.

1122
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 3: Uh, all right, I would have thought it would have

1123
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 3: been more like two forty plus. That's good, that's not bid.

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00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 3: I'll take you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, huge weekend buddy. I'll see in a few days.

1126
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: A right, take it easy, you guys, good luck, ray

1127
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: take it thank.

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00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: You every week here on the Anakin Florian Podcast. And

1129
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's messing with me or what

1130
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: wanting me to, like tone it down during a pay

1131
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: per view week, but uh, I'll take that conversation off

1132
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 1: the air because now joining us for what has become

1133
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: a monthly spot. You know, I was playing with names

1134
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: for this segment, like put the shine on she In.

1135
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what we're gonna do here,

1136
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: she and shine. I like the verb shine. I like

1137
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: this guy even better. Host of the Severe MMA podcast

1138
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: Severe Mma, Sean Sheen. You can find The Sheen Show

1139
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: on sher dog dot com. I appreciate your time as always, brother,

1140
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: Good Tuesday, how are you? Oh?

1141
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 2: Not too bad?

1142
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 3: Now?

1143
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 6: A busy weekend, we'd care drawers here in Ireland, so

1144
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 6: I was at that for the weekends. Uh busy every

1145
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:04,919
Speaker 6: weekend seems to be a busy we can know. But yeah,

1146
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 6: I'm good now. It's great to see you know, the

1147
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 6: next level of Irish em and may I suppose coming

1148
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 6: on to the world scene sort of some great talent

1149
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 6: on that card and some great talent coming up next

1150
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 6: week is well.

1151
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: And I know your love life is in a good position,

1152
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: but if your significant other like's weekends and hanging out

1153
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: on them, she might need to find a different man.

1154
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: You did mention you just finished covering Cage Warriors one

1155
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: fifty three in Dublin, and it seemed like on Twitter

1156
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: you were sort of blown away by the in house

1157
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: production or something that this live event held for you.

1158
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: And what I always tell people, if you haven't been

1159
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: to a UFC live event, you just got to understand

1160
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: how much effort is put into the in house. So

1161
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 1: what was it about that live event that had you

1162
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: on the Twitter machine shouting them out?

1163
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 6: It was great because they so a lot of the

1164
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 6: promotions around here did Truan the fights. We have the fights,

1165
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 6: they're grad fights and that's it. But ks WKM a

1166
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 6: few years ago and I was blown with if anyone's

1167
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 6: watched the KSW show, it's unbelievable. Cage wearers were in

1168
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 6: kirk and a smaller arena down in the country just

1169
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 6: before the pandemic, so it's good. But four years ago

1170
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 6: this said, when they were in the big arena, you know,

1171
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 6: with five or six thousand people there, and I put

1172
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 6: on like this light show before the show started with

1173
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 6: like you know the song this is the greatest show.

1174
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 2: It was unbelievable. They laid up the cage.

1175
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 6: They did another one like you know Teenage Wasteland of

1176
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 6: the USC do they had their own version of that

1177
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 6: before the main card. It was just really good and

1178
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 6: the right thing about Cage Warriors as well, Like if

1179
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 6: let's say you're a UFC fan, they have the octagon,

1180
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 6: so it's the same cages as the UFC, which a

1181
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 6: lot of other promotions don't do. They're on UFC Fight Pass.

1182
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 6: It's like the it's the road to the UFC kind

1183
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:41,399
Speaker 6: of for this side of the world. And it's really great.

1184
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 6: Like IM sure a lot of lads. You talk about

1185
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 6: Arnold Allen came through Cagwars, Conor McGregor came to Cage Warriors, Calvinder,

1186
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 6: Michael Bisping, Dan Hardy, so many others came through Cage

1187
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 6: Warriors and they're still doing a great job at the moment.

1188
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 6: And it's funny, just kind of a big divide around

1189
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 6: here at the moment. Do you go to Cage Warriors route,

1190
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 6: which is, you know, not the best paying route I

1191
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 6: suppose in the world to get to the UFC, or

1192
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 6: do you go to the other places like Bellator, like

1193
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 6: PFL and O Brave and Octagon in places which are

1194
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 6: playing good money, but you're probably not going to be

1195
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 6: getting to the UFC if you go that route anytime

1196
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 6: soon anyway, And it's it's a big debate here, but

1197
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,280
Speaker 6: what it's creating is this buzz in Irish Emmaders. Obviously

1198
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 6: we had Cageuyers on Saturday. There's another Cagwuaryers card later

1199
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Speaker 6: in the year. There's a Belleter card later in the year.

1200
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Speaker 6: There's a PFL card later in the year, all in

1201
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 6: Ireland as well. So this is absolutely massive and we'd

1202
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 6: hope obviously that the UFC will be back in some

1203
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 6: stage as well, So it's there's a real buzz around

1204
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 6: Irish MMA at the moment.

1205
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Speaker 2: It's absolutely fantastic.

1206
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Speaker 1: No, it's very exciting and you set it up beautifully.

1207
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: So in terms of you coming to the US or

1208
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: going to see Kenflo at a PFL event, I'd imagine

1209
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: you have to be pretty selective. I mean, there are

1210
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: major national media outlets in the United States who don't

1211
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: send a reporter to our big pay per views, So

1212
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: I know it's a little bit problematic no matter where

1213
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: you are. But like if Conor McGregor fights September October, like,

1214
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 1: do you come to Vegas or not? Necessarily, No, I would.

1215
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,399
Speaker 6: I haven't gone to any of the American carriage yet.

1216
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 6: Some of the that that work with Severe may have

1217
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 6: gone before. My colleague Graham, who works on Who's the

1218
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 6: Cost of the severe Man podcast with me, he actually

1219
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 6: produced the Conor McGregor Notorious documentary that's been on you know,

1220
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 6: Netflix and and everywhere like that, so he kind of

1221
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 6: traveled with him and a few of my other colleagues.

1222
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 6: Andrew McGahan, who used to work for us back in

1223
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 6: the day, he went over to those as well, but no,

1224
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 6: I haven't gone to min I'm so busy now.

1225
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 2: It's almost impossible, you know, when you're.

1226
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 6: Creating three shows a week for for Shure Dog with

1227
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 6: our Patreon as well in severe Man and then the

1228
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 6: Severe Maya as well. It's just it's impossible, like I

1229
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 6: even to go to the shows, say that the bellot

1230
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 6: Our shows. I go on the Wednesday and come back

1231
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 6: on the Sunday. You have to just prepare so much

1232
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 6: and do so much for the week ahead that it's

1233
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 6: like some people might think it's a holiday or a

1234
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 6: few days away. It's it just like ruins your months

1235
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 6: in early. You have to do so much work.

1236
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: So a trip to the US, I imagine would be

1237
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: even worse.

1238
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 6: I hope at some stage I'd love to do with

1239
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 6: it some maybe a big McGregor fight or something like that,

1240
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 6: but it's it's tough.

1241
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: It's just sort of.

1242
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: Sean. Obviously.

1243
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: UFC two eighty eight is coming up some great fights

1244
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 5: on that card. I think one of the more intriguing

1245
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 5: ones for me is the Bala Mohammed Gilbert Burns fight.

1246
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: How do you see that one? And who do you

1247
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: think is gonna come out on top?

1248
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 2: It's a tough fight.

1249
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 6: I think the five rounds is a big, big thing

1250
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 6: here for Balal. I think it really really benefits him

1251
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 6: because you look at Gilbert Burns and you see his

1252
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 6: last few fights, and I think what he has done,

1253
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 6: especially in the Masal fight, he thought at a way

1254
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 6: slower start of pace. Now not not so much against

1255
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 6: Shamaiev because the Chamajev, but it won him to fight

1256
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 6: against mas Vral, but maybe he didn't look as brilliant

1257
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 6: as he has in the past.

1258
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: I actually think that sort.

1259
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 6: Of style will benefit him fighting against Balal. But also,

1260
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 6: you give up, and you know, we always talk about judging,

1261
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 6: you give up what makes you specially in terms of

1262
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 6: taking rounds of people. So if you're Gilbert Burns and

1263
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,959
Speaker 6: you go out and you fight at a faster pace,

1264
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 6: you land big shots, you're way more likely to win.

1265
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 6: Around you go out there and you get him to

1266
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 6: the ground, you get get someone in a submission, you

1267
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 6: know you can finish the fight, or you know you're

1268
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 6: gonna win the round. If you get him in a

1269
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 6: real bad position when he's fighting a slower pace, maybe

1270
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 6: it's probably a more intelligent pace. EVE know, if you

1271
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 6: don't want to get punched in the face over and over.

1272
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 6: It's a smart way of doing it, but it also

1273
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 6: makes the fight closer. And you know, Blala get to

1274
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 6: take down Lay in the round lands five or six elbows,

1275
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 6: the fight goes the other way.

1276
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm very interesting.

1277
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of fights in this on

1278
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 6: this card, a lot of lads with similar enough styles,

1279
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 6: and it's very hard to predict how it's gonna go.

1280
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 2: With this one.

1281
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 6: I think what may and that's not necessarily for this fight,

1282
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 6: but for this one, I think it's hard to predict

1283
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 6: how it's gonna go because you have Balal, who you

1284
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 6: would think against most guys, is going to try to

1285
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 6: wrestle him. He's wrestling has been so good over the

1286
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 6: last while, But who wants to go to the ground

1287
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 6: with Gilbert Burns how good he is down there, and

1288
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 6: then you're blind you maybe you want to pick him

1289
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 6: off on the feet with Gilbert in his last few

1290
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 6: fights has been trying to kind of pick lads off

1291
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 6: on the feet more, and then you're playing into his

1292
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 6: game that he wants to fight and how as well.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know.

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00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 6: I find it very very very hard to predict look

1295
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 6: might go to, and this has been wrong multiple times,

1296
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 6: but my go to is almost always that wrestling beats

1297
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 6: jiu jitsu. So you know, maybe I'm good doing the

1298
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 6: Annik Flarian pick air, but I think I'm going for

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00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 6: Balaalin this one.

1300
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: I think I am.

1301
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: I really like the way you look at that fight.

1302
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: It seems as though Habib normago Medov suggested to Bala

1303
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: Muhammad that he try to get this to be a

1304
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: five round fight. Now, perhaps that is because stylistically he

1305
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: believes it would be advantageous. I really do believe that

1306
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: Ballow's interest and Gilbert's in five rounds is to make

1307
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: it clear crystal to everybody that this is a welterweight

1308
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: title eliminator. And if it does end up going twenty

1309
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 1: five minutes, I do think for the winner, that's a

1310
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: huge feather in the cap in terms of laying a

1311
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: foundation for a championship opportunity. It still does seem that

1312
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: Colby Covington is going to be next, but whoever wins

1313
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: that fight is going to be next in line. I

1314
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about the main event between

1315
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: Henry Sahudo and al Jamaine Sterling. I also time permitting,

1316
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about your long conversation with

1317
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: Patty Pimblet. But when your handicap and a layoff like this,

1318
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: even if it's an all time great, to what extent

1319
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: do you factor that in? Because I think some people

1320
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: are very dismissive of it, and some people lead their

1321
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: handicap with that very thing.

1322
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 2: I would be the one who'd be leading with us.

1323
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 2: I think that's the end thing here.

1324
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 6: I think there's two questions with Henry Sahuda, right, why

1325
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 6: did he leave? Why is he coming back?

1326
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: The question why did he leave?

1327
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 6: My thought on that for a long time was he

1328
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 6: left because you know, maybe he wanted to get a

1329
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 6: bigger money offer he wanted. Okay, you kind of missed

1330
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 6: me there for six months or a year and coming

1331
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 6: back didn't really work out great for him. And now

1332
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 6: it's three years down the line and here he is.

1333
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 6: Now it might work out. Mean you gotta tight put

1334
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 6: for a tight he already had, so yeah, I don't know.

1335
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 6: But then I watched the count Don show and he said,

1336
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 6: you know, he had a child, you got married and

1337
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 6: all of that in the meantime. So he was saying

1338
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 6: that was it, and then I was looking for the

1339
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 6: second part of that question why is he coming back?

1340
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 6: And I never really got the answer to that watching

1341
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: that Countdown show, like why is he coming back? Is

1342
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 6: he coming back just because he kind of waited so

1343
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 6: long that he had to come back Almost at this

1344
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 6: stage he was never actually retired.

1345
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: I never for a second believe he was tired. Now

1346
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: I don't believe.

1347
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 6: I don't believe anyone's retirement to be I still think

1348
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 6: Kenny's gonna make it come back, But.

1349
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, like is it just from one last

1350
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 2: pay there or is he you.

1351
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 6: Know, is he back and wanting to fight in six

1352
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 6: months and twelve months and eighteen months again, it's very,

1353
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 6: very tough to know. The other part of that is

1354
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 6: the game changes a lot in three years, It really

1355
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 6: really does.

1356
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: Like has he has he.

1357
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: Been able to keep up with it? Like will he

1358
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: be able to keep up with it?

1359
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 6: A Jamain Sterling's in there, and he said to himself

1360
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 6: on that Countdown show, he's fighting the best guys in

1361
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 6: the world right now. And okay, it's a few of

1362
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 6: him fights have turned out to be a bit weird,

1363
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,000
Speaker 6: but that yan't fighting them. That was a real fight,

1364
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,280
Speaker 6: a very very close fight against one of the best

1365
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 6: guys in the world, and he's been in there, or

1366
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 6: Shudo hasn't.

1367
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 2: I think it's a massive negative.

1368
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 6: Now that doesn't mean I think Shudo can't win, or

1369
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 6: I would suggest someone wouldn't picking or anything like that.

1370
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 6: But I don't think you can call it a positive

1371
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 6: if you're looking at it before to fight.

1372
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: I think Henry Sujudo's mind might be his most powerful asset.

1373
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: We'll see if he can get his body after three

1374
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: years away to do what he wants it to do.

1375
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: And I think you're right. My biggest question in the

1376
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: Fighter meeting, and it'll probably go unanswered in that setting too,

1377
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 1: is why exactly are you back? Because I do believe

1378
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: that there was some promotional reluctance to give him him

1379
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: an immediate title shot, but they settled on that. Like,

1380
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: do you think Sean that if he beats out Jamaine

1381
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: Sterling spectacularly, that he's going to fight the winner of

1382
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: Alexander Volkanowski And yeah, you're Rodriguez. I mean, do you

1383
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: think that that C four is actually a realistic thing,

1384
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: because that actually makes sense in terms of a company.

1385
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 2: I think that's what he called for if he wins

1386
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:58,440
Speaker 2: the fight.

1387
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 6: See the weird thing about Henry it's you don't really

1388
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 6: know the truth with him because like he's playing this

1389
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 6: character all the time and things, and it's for someone

1390
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 6: like me, and like I've always said with Colby as well,

1391
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 6: it's very frustrating. You actually kind of you want to

1392
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 6: hear the real part of these you know, people's minds

1393
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 6: and stuff. And that's I love going to you know,

1394
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 6: going to Evince and talking to fighters and stuff. You

1395
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,960
Speaker 6: get that from them and it's brilliant when you see that.

1396
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 6: But for someone like Henry, I feel like maybe we

1397
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 6: have a few years ago, but not in a while,

1398
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 6: so who knows. But yeah, it's either gonna be one

1399
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 6: of two things. He either win and he said he's

1400
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 6: retiring again and try to play that game now. It

1401
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 6: was a bad game he played the last time, so

1402
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 6: he probably wise not to do that. But I think

1403
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 6: he's dead right. Considering as well, there isn't a genuine

1404
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 6: number one contender after the unification about like Arnold Allen

1405
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 6: should have been it. I think most people would have

1406
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 6: agreed with that, and then the Holloway fight happened. You

1407
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 6: know that there's a few guys coming up. I think

1408
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 6: Iliataporia is the next guy. I think he's gonna be great,

1409
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 6: but he's fighting coming up soon, I think, isn't he

1410
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 6: So he's not quite there yet, and he's still down

1411
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 6: the rankings a little bit. So it'd be a perfect

1412
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 6: time if you did win this and called them out,

1413
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 6: called out in Volkanhouse here. Yeah, year, but I think

1414
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 6: you know, Dana has been a bit reluctant to play

1415
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 6: this a hudo game, so we'll have to wit on

1416
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 6: that one.

1417
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: I suppose Saveria Mma Shawn Sheen with us here on

1418
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 1: the Anakin Flooring Podcast. You can find them on social

1419
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: media at sean she and BA. So do you bet

1420
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 1: on fights? I too?

1421
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 2: With the odd time. No, I've lost so much money

1422
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 2: betting on fights.

1423
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 6: I don't fights as much as I do, but I

1424
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 6: do my betting show every week over and short, so

1425
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 6: I do keep an eye.

1426
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 2: I keep an eye on the fight.

1427
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be the biggest better in the world, but

1428
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 6: I have every big bet I've ever done, I've always

1429
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 6: lost war.

1430
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: I know war is better.

1431
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 6: My record this year is u I've picked fifty one

1432
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 6: fights and won twenty six of them.

1433
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: I believe, so just right, So someone and I say

1434
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: this all the time that I would lose money if

1435
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: I was contractually allowed to bet on mixed martial arts.

1436
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 1: But even somebody like you that find tooth calmbs all

1437
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,040
Speaker 1: of this stuff, you're hitting about five hundred and the

1438
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 1: professional sports betters who realize financial freedom betting on sports,

1439
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: they're only hitting about fifty six percent. So we haven't

1440
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 1: talked to you in a little while. I had the

1441
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 1: chance to sit down and have a long conversation with

1442
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: your friend Ben Cartilage on a bus ride in some

1443
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: foreign nation, which was pretty cool. Am I allowed to

1444
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: ask you, like, overall over the last few months, how

1445
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: you feel like the state of scoring has been Like?

1446
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:24,959
Speaker 1: Is that a fair question?

1447
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a fair question. I think. I wouldn't say bad.

1448
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 6: I wouldn't say grace. It hasn't been as good, I

1449
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 6: think as it was. We hit a sweet spot two

1450
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 6: years ago, ash yep and I went down here. You know,

1451
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 6: we've spoken about the adjustment to the ten eights and

1452
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 6: everything like that a big issue recently, and I was

1453
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 6: talking to someone about it over the weekend. There's been

1454
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 6: a lot of like clashing cards and clashing weekends that said.

1455
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 2: You know what was it two weeks ago.

1456
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 6: Betatar had Friday Night Saturday Night and the UFC had

1457
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 6: the Saturday Night card. That's a lot of judges you need,

1458
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 6: you know, it's a lot of judges. And it's funny

1459
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 6: you mentioned Ben Cartilage there and he was doing I

1460
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 6: was talking Hi in the weekend. But he does the

1461
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 6: Cage Warriors cards right. And usually when there's a Cajarria's

1462
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 6: characters either three or four judges and they do the

1463
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 6: whole card and it's extremely consistent. It's always extremely consistent.

1464
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,439
Speaker 6: And then you go and you look say UC card

1465
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 6: and maybe they're seven or nine judges or something like that.

1466
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 6: Obviously three on every fight, and they're rot eight and

1467
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 6: sometimes it can be a little less consistent. And the

1468
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 6: biggest problem is we go to places like Texas, which

1469
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 6: is the worst, Kansas City and other places and there's

1470
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 6: judges that have you know, they could be great judges.

1471
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 6: I'm not criticizing the people at all with the who

1472
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 6: I am criticizing is the commissions that put him into

1473
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 6: those places.

1474
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: The cheat of air fight was the perfect fight a guy.

1475
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:48,919
Speaker 6: If you go over to the Having made Decisions dot com,

1476
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 6: he had like four decisions ever out of Belt or

1477
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 6: PFL UFC or any of those big cards. I'm sure

1478
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 6: he's done. If you on the local scene, that's not

1479
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 6: good enough. To be in a UFC main event, that

1480
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 6: is not good enough. And I saw people saying anyone

1481
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,520
Speaker 6: in the world I was sitting at home, and I

1482
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 6: could have judged it. It's very very different sitting there

1483
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 6: with fifteen or sixteen thousand people behind you, roaring and

1484
01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 6: shouting after absolutely every punch. It's very different. And to

1485
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 6: put someone with that level of experience into a spot

1486
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 6: like that, you're asking for someone to hand in her

1487
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 6: in this card.

1488
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 2: That's a massive problem.

1489
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 6: Like, we have a lot of big issues in judging,

1490
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 6: to be honest, one of the biggest issues I think

1491
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 6: I've mentioned it before is the judge's placement at the cage.

1492
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 6: Sometimes they play them behind one of those screens. I

1493
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 6: saw Rod McCarthy once there was a big head kick knockout,

1494
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 6: and like he barely moved his head and he was

1495
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 6: able to.

1496
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 2: Say, that's another big issue. The ten eight is a

1497
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: big issue. But yeah, I.

1498
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 6: Think there are those issues. I still think, you know,

1499
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 6: I like the criteria. I liked it better before they

1500
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 6: changed the ten eights. But one massive thing that I

1501
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 6: think has helped is you mentioned Ben Cartilage and his colleague,

1502
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 6: and let it be as well from the UK, they

1503
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Speaker 6: have both been brought into the US to help out

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 6: because there's a look at USC doing a lot of

1505
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 6: apex cards. There's a lot of work for those judges

1506
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 6: in in Vegas, so they've been brought into help and

1507
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 6: I think that has really really helped as well and

1508
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 6: will help. You know, they've only done a few cards

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01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 6: off are, but it will help going forward. And I

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01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 6: think that's I think that the UC Belator and all

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01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 6: the promotions should do even more is bring the best

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Speaker 6: judges into the big cards.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we've got a couple more minutes here with Sean Sheen.

1514
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Speaker 1: One of the biggest knockouts this year was the Israeli

1515
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 1: Yanal Ashmoze, spoiling the UFC debut of one Sam Patterson. Now,

1516
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: relative to your expectations for a guy like Sam Patterson,

1517
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: how surprising is that result? And I guess I'm just

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01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 1: curious big picture, Like I know, there have been certain

1519
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: guys like CLD that you really plant your flag on

1520
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: when they come into the UFC from that part of

1521
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: the world. How surprised were you to see Sam Patterson

1522
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: go down like that relative to your overall expectations for

1523
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: him in the UFCIT. I'm not sure.

1524
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 6: Like I'll be honest here, he wasn't one of the

1525
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,599
Speaker 6: guys I had written in a notebook to say he's

1526
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 6: going to be. I think a part of that was

1527
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 6: he wasn't fighting kind of in the local scene. I

1528
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 6: think he was over and maybe Braver.

1529
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:13,160
Speaker 1: Somewhere like that.

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01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 6: And I've watched him and I know he's a good fighter,

1531
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 6: but he, like you mentioned Christian here, I dunkin here.

1532
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 6: He is a guy I think who could be a

1533
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 6: ranked UFC fighter right now, and he's only like nine

1534
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,759
Speaker 6: fights into his career or something like that. There are guys.

1535
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 6: There's one guy on the scene at the moment. Paul

1536
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 6: Hughes is his name. He's a one forty five er.

1537
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 6: He's a champion gage Whereas and this guy he needs

1538
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 6: to be in the UFC. If don't know why they're

1539
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 6: listening to this sign him, This guy, I'm telling you

1540
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 6: maybe in the UFC, not now right if he was

1541
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 6: in Balat or right now. I think he beat a champion.

1542
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:46,040
Speaker 6: I think he beat Patricia Pitbull that's how good I

1543
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 6: think this guy is. Go watch his last fight on

1544
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 6: UFC Fight Bass against Jordan Luchinik. It went to the decision,

1545
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 6: but it was one of the biggest destructions of a

1546
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 6: fight I have ever seen. He is as legit as

1547
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 6: they come. You want to talk about Ian Gary, this

1548
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 6: is the next Ian Gary. And apparently apparently the UFC

1549
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 6: are not signed him. I spoke to greend By the

1550
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 6: last week. They're not signed him because he's gone to

1551
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 6: a decision a few times in a row. Now, there's

1552
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,479
Speaker 6: three really good guys in that division at the moment.

1553
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 6: Who I just mentioned he should be in the UFC

1554
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 6: two and Mark and Shatier, who is a massive, massive

1555
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,679
Speaker 6: celebrity over in France. He's on he's on like YouTube

1556
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 6: channel and allist and he's a very good fighter too.

1557
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 6: With this guy Paul Hughes, he should be in UFC.

1558
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 6: If anyone out there wants a name, that's the name, all.

1559
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 1: Right, No, I'm looking for that. What about my guy

1560
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 1: Will Curry. It looks like he lost to mix Stanton

1561
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 1: at Cage Warriors one fifty one back in March. It

1562
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,560
Speaker 1: might be a little bit of a slower climb for

1563
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: Will Curry.

1564
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 3: He did that.

1565
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,360
Speaker 6: That's a very interesting judging fight to watch. It was

1566
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 6: one of those ones where Will Curry got a lot

1567
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 6: of ground control time.

1568
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: But Stanton he did a great job.

1569
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 6: He kind of got into like this kind of Kimurai

1570
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 6: twistery type of position and turned him around in and

1571
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 6: up on top and landed some good shots and wanted

1572
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 6: He's a guy that's been around for a good long time,

1573
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 6: and that's when you go through the cage wars rus.

1574
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 6: If you're a young guy coming up in the sport

1575
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,679
Speaker 6: and you're meeting you're meeting people who have been around

1576
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,479
Speaker 6: and done it and fought some of the best guys.

1577
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: It's not easy to get through them. It's not easy

1578
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 2: to get to them. Will Curry.

1579
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:09,840
Speaker 6: You only have to look at a picture of him

1580
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 6: to see what's great about him. His physique is absolutely unbelievable.

1581
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,479
Speaker 6: But look, I thought he'd win that fight, but I

1582
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 6: also thought if he did win that fight, he needs two,

1583
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,559
Speaker 6: three or four more before he's gone to UFC. He's

1584
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 6: one of those guys. I'm not saying he can't be

1585
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 6: that in the future, but right now, I don't think

1586
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 6: he was.

1587
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: In modestus Pakowskis's corner and just was absolutely brilliant, and

1588
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:31,879
Speaker 1: that's why we gave him some shoint on the broadcast,

1589
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: and that's why I'm monitoring his career closely. But I

1590
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: think you're spot on three or four more and maybe

1591
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: we'll see Will Curry in the big show, all right.

1592
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, he had a long chat

1593
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: recently with Patty Pimblet. Just curious if there were any

1594
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: major takeaways on that and what do you think the

1595
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 1: future holds for him? Maybe later this year into twenty

1596
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 1: twenty four. I look.

1597
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 6: The most interesting I think that came from that was

1598
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 6: he said he had surgery seven weeks before it and

1599
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 6: he just did his first rehab session that day, I

1600
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 6: think or day before, which to me suggests that is

1601
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 6: a very very bad injury, you know, to have the

1602
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,760
Speaker 6: way for seven weeks. And I saw a picture of

1603
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 6: him the other day he was in a boot and everything.

1604
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1605
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 2: I think he told someone else as well, it's going

1606
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: to be towards the end of the year.

1607
01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 6: So this has been a very bad injury, a worse

1608
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,559
Speaker 6: injury than I think anyone would have would have predicted.

1609
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was it was interesting, but I had

1610
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 6: Paddy on, you know, cawriers kind of got him on

1611
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:25,679
Speaker 6: to predict the card, and I asked him a couple

1612
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 6: of questions about cage warriers and he didn't really seem

1613
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 6: that that up for answering them. And then I asked

1614
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 6: him a like injury and the last time and Jared

1615
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 6: Gardner and all that, and he was mad to answered,

1616
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 6: don't start the question.

1617
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 2: So that's Paddy. When we get him back, I think

1618
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 2: I think he'll be right at it again.

1619
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 6: You know, it's interesting to see how the fans will

1620
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 6: react him like that last fight was not good for

1621
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 6: him to the lead up with all the drama and

1622
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 6: it went on and then after the fight, you know,

1623
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 6: a lot of people thought he had lost. I think

1624
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 6: next fight is a big bounce back fight. Whether it's

1625
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,200
Speaker 6: a rematch or anythink it's it's massive because the rest

1626
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 6: and look, I've been watching Patty for years and years

1627
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 6: and years. A lot of people might think, if they're

1628
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 6: watching in the US, Patty's he's on the way up.

1629
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: You know, he's a prospect. He's not.

1630
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 6: You know, Patty's in the prime of his career right now.

1631
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 6: He was fighting sarn back four and five years ago

1632
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 6: and really really good fighters. He won a Titland cage

1633
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 6: where he was lost that came back again, had five

1634
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 6: or six fights after that. This is the prime of

1635
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 6: Patty's career and he needs to do it now, and

1636
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 6: injuries are a big issue and all of this it's

1637
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 6: it's going to be an interesting next year for Patty massive.

1638
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 1: I think, beautifully put, it's going to be a huge,

1639
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 1: huge next fight for Patty Pimblet, whether it's against Jared

1640
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: Gordon or anybody else. All right, if you want more

1641
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: from Sean she and cranking out three shows a week

1642
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: at Shawn she and BA. We appreciate your time, brother,

1643
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 1: and enjoy the paper you. By the way, if you

1644
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: ever want to come to the US as a fan

1645
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: and go to one of these shows in a non

1646
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: working capacity, say the word my tickets are yours? Bro.

1647
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 2: I think that's a better idea and gone down.

1648
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do that maybe, Thank you, buddy. Good to

1649
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: talk to you as usual Shan Sheen wi us here

1650
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 1: on the Anakin Floran podcast. He speaks a little bit

1651
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 1: to the navigation of cranking out several shows a week

1652
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 1: and just to peel back the curtain for you folks,

1653
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I will get off the air

1654
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: at about two or three in the morning after the

1655
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: post fight show at UFC two to eighty eight. Right

1656
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: then I have a few hours. I'll do some voiceover

1657
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,600
Speaker 1: work in New York City on Sunday, and then we

1658
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 1: are taping our next episode or I guess episode four

1659
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: oh eight next week at four forty five, and all

1660
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 1: the while during my pay perview week in Newark, New Jersey,

1661
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: I'll be voicing the show in Charlotte, North Carolina. Right so,

1662
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: sometimes there is this condensed nature of the preparation and

1663
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: I feel Sean Sheen's pain on that front. All right,

1664
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,680
Speaker 1: we are done for today. Good news though, right back

1665
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: in your life at about forty eight hours predictions for

1666
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 1: UFC two to eighty eight from Kenny Florian and Brian Petrie.

1667
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 1: We will have no fewer than seven predictions coming up

1668
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: at about forty eight hours. Thank you to our guest today,

1669
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: Very LONGO and Sean Sheen. Our producer is the Great Cody.

1670
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: I will also be sure to check out Yeah for

1671
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: betched a n f rewind out UFC fight past this week.

1672
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: I'll look back at recent wins. I shouldn't say recent

1673
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,160
Speaker 1: but wins for Henry S. Hudo and al Jamain Sterling.

1674
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: All right with that. For Kenny Floyd, I'm John, and

1675
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: thank you for listening for watching the Attaque Florian podcast

1676
01:15:14,680 --> 01:15:17,720
Speaker 1: UFC two eighty eight beckons. In a few days, we'll

1677
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Speaker 1: talk to you.

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Speaker 3: That's right here on the drafts