WEBVTT - Ep25 - Jordan Peele / "Get Out" 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.440 Welcome to Playback, a Variety podcast. I'm your host, Variety 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:25.480 Awards Editor Chris Tapley. On today's show, we bring back 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:29.040 Variety Senior VP Tim Gray for final Oscar predictions ahead 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.840 of Hollywood's big night. A little bit later, I'll be 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.960 talking to Get Out writer and director Jordan Peel. So 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:51.120 stick around. Okay, here we are. We've got a couple 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.480 of days left. I'll miss you, guys. I won't see 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:57.440 you again until what August. That kind of put us 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.520 in our holes. Let's go hid eight for the next 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.880 few months. I should say I'm here with Janelle again 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:08.920 as well, obviously, and Tim Gray is back. Name like 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:13.120 share Rihanna exactly. That one name is enough. And Tim 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:15.680 was just talking to some foreign press. I'm curious, what 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:20.080 are they? What is their perspective on the Oscars? Tim Well, well, actually, um, 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:23.399 people this year always want to know about of course, 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:25.360 they want to know who's gonna win, and they want 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:28.440 to know about Oscars so white, about the diversity, and 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.800 you know, I think it's it's a valent question after 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.000 last year. But but I always feel like a little 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.040 defensive for the people who were nominated this year and 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.720 the truth of it is if you see those movies, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.400 you wouldn't have to ask, you know, are they being 0:01:42.440 --> 0:01:45.560 nominated for for the sake of diversity, because it's I mean, 0:01:45.720 --> 0:01:49.280 you know, like Fences, those performances, like I mean, they'd 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.640 be amazing any year breaking news from the heartland. My 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:56.600 parents loved Moonlight. They finally thought it and they loved it. 0:01:56.720 --> 0:01:59.640 Yet well it wasn't what was the review going around 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.520 this week in from the Times in London where the 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:06.600 critic was like, who is this movie for? Certainly not 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:10.040 the straight white males who will watch it. It was 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:13.919 a pretty awful, terrible We only want to see movies 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:16.040 about I would hate to see a movie about me. 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:22.320 But then she ultimately came to shet of me. She 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:25.400 ultimately came to some point that like the black people 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:26.960 would not be interested in this film, and I was like, 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.320 what point are you trying to make? She took the 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.160 hill you want to die on? Well, I mean, I mean, 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:33.960 the truth of it is. I I will say, you know, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.760 journalists always try and see and things from an angle 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:40.960 that most people wouldn't pick up on so and and 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:44.160 and this week, of course, you know it's fashionable if 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.839 a movie got nominated then there must be something wrong 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:49.120 with it, so so let me explain why. But I 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.520 also feel like, you know what calmed down. I mean, yeah, 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:54.280 she does have a point though, because I know only 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:57.560 superheroes like to see Avengers movies. Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.560 really not anybody else going going to those guarding the 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:05.480 uh you know, the the sense of a meritok receiversus 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.760 doing things for the I mean, do you get the 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.640 feeling that Cheryl bon Isaacs at the Academy has acted 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:17.680 like their initiative is what spawned these nominations because people 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:22.480 keep talking about Cheryl's speech at the uh luncheon where 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.440 she said clearly progress has been made. But when she 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.440 said that, I didn't take that as see you look 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:30.160 at these nominees. I think it as we we added 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.520 seven hundred voices and over two hundred or nearly three 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:34.720 hundred of them more international people and blah blah blah 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.880 blah blah. So what does the vibe you've gotten temp 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.280 from the Academy on that score? Do you you get 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.640 a sense of back padding out of self back padding? 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.160 I mean, I find the Academy is so secretive. I mean, 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:49.040 they just have a culture of not talking about themselves, 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:51.480 so so it's like they don't even pat themselves on 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:54.880 the back. But I think I when when all the 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.920 diversity discussion happened last year, Cheryl B and I has 0:03:58.960 --> 0:04:00.880 made a couple of statements about, look, we're going to 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:03.960 set an example, because if you want the Academy to 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:06.160 reflect the industry as it is today, it's like it's 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.080 going to be white males. But but she's saying, look, 0:04:09.120 --> 0:04:12.000 we're we're going to diversify and maybe they'll pick up 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.880 our cues. So I kind of think that's what they're 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:18.800 congratulating themselves about, don't Because yeah, I certainly can't imagine 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:20.920 that you would expect that movies that were already in 0:04:20.920 --> 0:04:25.719 the pipeline that we're already filming happened to be movies anyway, 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:30.559 that that that this reaction is somehow that I can't 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:32.520 blame them for, you know, taking an opportunity to pat 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.640 themselves on the back a little bit. Though, yeah, I 0:04:34.640 --> 0:04:36.520 think they are making change. I think that's okay, but 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.160 I also think it's it's kind of selling the other 0:04:39.360 --> 0:04:44.040 members short by just saying that's why Fences and Moonlight 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:47.480 were nominated this year because of these come out last year. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:51.640 I totally agree, totally agree, um and I think we 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.200 wouldn't have had the Oscar so White discussion. But I'm 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.400 glad there was a discussion because I do think people 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.760 in the industry are thinking maybe maybe we have been 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:07.040 a little insular in our thinking. Absolutely well, predictions, just 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.719 give the people what they want. I've got a copy 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:12.640 of our ballot and our magazine which has Jimmy Kimmel 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:18.719 on the cover. I guess Kimmel not fallon too many 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.120 Jimmy's and late what do we think about him as 0:05:21.120 --> 0:05:23.000 the host? By the way, I'm so excited. I think 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:24.800 he's a great host, that he did a great job 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:27.240 with the Emmys, and I think he'll be just subversive 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.839 enough and just uh doesn't give an f enough that 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:35.240 will be Really I love Jimmy Kimmel, and for for years, 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:39.640 because he's with ABC, I had heard rumors that some 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.279 people wanted him, but they feared he was too edgy 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.760 for us, God forbid, And I thought that's exactly what 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:49.600 oscars need, is somebody a little edgy but also McFarlin. Well, well, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.760 but I was talking to Austrian TV. I said, do 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:55.680 you people know Jimmy Kimmel because his show is and 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.479 they said, yeah, through social media, and I thought, oh god, 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.159 I mean that's really thing because that would not have 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.839 been the case fifteen years ago. But they said, you 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.320 know he he and his people will post a little 0:06:06.320 --> 0:06:08.919 clips and stuff like that, so people they don't watch 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.240 his show because it's not available in Austria, but but 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.840 they know him. He said, I think he's a great choice. 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.119 I mean, Hugh Jackman would always be my first choice. 0:06:17.120 --> 0:06:20.120 But if you can't have him, you know, Hugh Jackman, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.000 j Kimmel, you're pretty much looking at the same always 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:28.960 thought Kevin Spacey would have been interesting, but maybe not anymore. Yeah, 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.840 I'm gonna get Janelle to roll her eyes for me. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.760 It hurts. It hurts so much. Let's make some predictions people, Alright, 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:39.120 this is going to be easy. Come on, sound. Let's 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:43.159 start with the sound category. Do you do that to me? 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:49.360 Sound mixing got to be an easy call, right, Well, yeah, 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:53.400 I think see I was I thought it was I 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:56.160 was taking that and sound editing. Yeah, maybe, I mean, 0:06:56.279 --> 0:06:59.479 I mean because I kind of actually, I kind of 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.960 think one film is gonna win in both categories, but 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:05.760 that might not be true. Um, but but La La 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:10.280 Land or hacks O Rich for both? For you? Yeah, yeah, 0:07:09.760 --> 0:07:12.960 I think I think it's uh, well, I'm going with 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.560 Laala for mixing, you are two, right, and then for 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:20.520 sound editing, We're I'm on hacks Office because you know, 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.680 war film all of that. But I hear what you're saying. 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.240 I mean they can't, like so many of these people 0:07:25.280 --> 0:07:30.120 don't know what the difference between these categories is that so, like, 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.480 you know, there's there's a tendency. I could get into 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:38.800 some geeky stats, but I won't um stats about what 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:43.680 about just about how how the sound categories play out 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:48.760 when there's like, uh, you know, movies nominated in both 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.800 categories like slum Dog Millionaire that year both of that 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.240 in the Dark Knight were nominated in both categories and 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.400 The Dark Knight one sound editing, but slum Dog ones 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.920 sound mixing, And I think that's like split. They do split. 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.760 But that's like the only time where like like the 0:08:04.800 --> 0:08:08.280 movie that one sound mixing loss to another movie that 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.480 was also nominated for sound mixing and sound editing. Does 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:14.760 that make sense? You told me to go there, But 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:16.920 I'm also curious, I mean, you know, part of the 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.120 fun of oscars, and part of the frustration is that 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.480 you never see the results. So out of like six 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.760 thousand voters, you know, I'd love to know how many 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:26.880 people cast their ballots. And over the years, I've asked 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.360 a lot of people, can do you know the difference 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.920 between sound editing and sound mixing? A lot of people said, oh, 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:33.880 I never vote on that category. People, I want to 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.200 know if they really don't vote on it, or if 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.040 they just say I love la la la exactly that 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.959 I'm sure the sound was great. That could absolutely happen. Yeah, 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:42.920 it's a musical, of course, the sound was great. Yeah. 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:45.080 I rarely call splits on these just because of what 0:08:45.200 --> 0:08:47.440 you say. It tends to be where they'll just for 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.640 both of them, check check. I think they should combine 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.000 these categories, and I appreciate the sound editors fought hard 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:53.720 to have their own category years and then the show 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.440 would be shorter. Yeah. I just I just think it's 0:08:56.520 --> 0:09:00.120 it's you know, Yeah, it's a little ridiculous for one 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:04.000 branch to have two categories. And you could say something 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:07.240 about the actors if you wanted to. So visual effects 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:11.240 that's an easy call, right, Come on, what what do you. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.720 I think it's jungle Book. Don't be scared to step 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:22.320 up with you. I don't have Chris all memorized, and 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.840 I'm not even sure what it's competition is. Yeah, it's 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.559 gonna be jungle Book. Question there is do actors feel, 0:09:29.640 --> 0:09:32.040 you know, pushed out of the game with stuff like 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.800 the effects work done in Rogue one? Maybe? I mean, 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:37.880 I think and I don't know, but but I think 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:42.160 actors feel threatened by motion capture. But the idea of 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.280 I could have played that panther, you know, I don't. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.280 I don't think they go so I I don't. I 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.199 don't feel like Jungle bies threatening. They made this movie 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:55.720 downtown Los Angeles. It's amazing, like in a warehouse. We 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.800 had Jon Favreaux on the show. So yeah, I think 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.560 we all think jungle Book for that film. Editing. You 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:03.960 have the list, I do have the list. It is 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:09.160 Stall Stall Stall. Well, I'm gonna jump in and I'm 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.760 gonna guess has a Ridge on that one too? Really? Yeah? 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.840 But but again, I mean, you know, La La Land 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.360 is a favorite here. It's a rival Hexa Ridge, Hell 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.400 or high Water, La La Land and Moonlight. I U 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.800 I'm leaning towards Tsa Ridge as well. But but you know, 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.320 I mean seriously, Lawa Land could and also Arrival. Um. 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.480 You know when when you look at even clips from that, 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:34.920 you know, one minute clip, you think, wow, we've talked 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:37.360 about that. The structure of Arrival is very dependent on 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.400 the editing. Yes, I'm going with La La Land. I 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.040 just yeah, which is interesting in that Manchester by the 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:47.480 Sea was not nominating this category because again structure have 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:52.439 I have we talked about that on here we have? Yeah, Um, 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.320 so you're both more hacks all. That's interesting. It won 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:57.120 the Bathdoor Award. I didn't see that coming. So you know, 0:10:57.400 --> 0:10:59.960 if they like it enough, I could see that happening. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.120 It would be interesting if hacks all one film editing, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.439 sound editing, sound mixing, it would kind of make sense, 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:09.160 like the Big War Movie nominated for Picture and Director. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:10.920 I mean I think it's down to Hacks or La 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.800 La Land. And I'm just trying to be slightly subversive, 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.800 not subversive. And I'm going with the say you you 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:22.280 are subversive without even trying. Yeah, I'm grown woman in pigtails. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:25.200 I mean look about some versive. I am makeup and hairstyle. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:30.200 Speaking of pigtails. So we have a man called Star 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:35.839 Trek Beyond and Suicide Squad. I'm calling Star Trek Beyond. Oh, 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.520 I was going to say Suicide Squad. Really, Suicide Squad 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.920 would be an Oscar winning movie. But see, because I think, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:42.760 you know, and I keep be wrong, but I think, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.040 I think if all you have to do is look 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:47.760 at photos from Suicide Squad, you know when photos from 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:50.400 Star Trek or often of Chris Pine or something, and 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.440 and but it's like if you get a shot of 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.480 Isras Elbow, I mean, well, yeah, exactly, I mean look 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:58.320 all three of them. It's like I feel like what 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.160 always happens with Oscars. Everybody who was nominated deserves to 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.120 be there, but there were a lot of people who 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.720 I also deserve to be there. There's a wide variety 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:08.080 of stuff on Suicide Squad to like the whole squad. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.560 You know, everybody has a very definitive look Killer Croc 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:15.080 with you know, his whole get up, and obviously the Joker, 0:12:15.160 --> 0:12:18.560 and you know, I just gosh, maybe I'm just angry 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.880 at all the Harley Quinn inspired Halloween costumes. I had 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:24.120 to endure that I can't give it up for the 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.280 makeup in Hairstack. We all agree that the foreign film 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.280 is probably not going to happen because who will have 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.199 seen it outside of people voting in foreign film? It's 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:36.400 not in that category. Yeah, yeah, I kind of, I 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:39.840 kind of. I'm not sure enough people saw that. Let's 0:12:39.840 --> 0:12:42.040 wake everybody up with some major category. All right, should 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.960 go to screenplay. Let's go to a screenplays original screenplay? 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:50.880 La La Land me too? Yeah, sold unanimous? Can we 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:52.959 talk you into it or you that was your choice? Well, 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.000 those people are picking Manchester on that. Well, I'm not 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.160 sure why has it won any precursors won the back 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.199 won most of the critics prizes. Yeah, but I mean look, 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:04.520 Keneth owner again is one of our greatest living writers. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.679 Like I, I get it, but um yeah, and I 0:13:07.720 --> 0:13:12.200 wouldn't be surprised. Actually, La and they both both lost 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.920 the original and w g A, which is Moonlight. Yeah, 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.960 and then Moonlight moved into adapted for the Oscars, really 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:22.000 really messing up my pool. Yeah, uh no, I would not. 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.120 I would not be surprised at Manchester one. Um, and 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.080 I know, like a lot of people, we've had this discussion. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.720 We Chris and I both think La La Land is 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.640 a great script, and we don't understand the complaints that 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:34.120 say that's the weakest part. Um. But yeah, I think 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.920 it wins. Let me also say this is my like, 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.640 you know, if I had the balls to pick it, 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:43.560 I would category. I feel like Hell or High Water 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:46.560 is a possibility in original street play that people don't 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.720 see coming. Yeah. I mean, but but you know again, 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.960 it's it's a script that you you notice, you know, 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.199 because I think La La Land part of its virtue 0:13:57.320 --> 0:13:59.880 is that it looks effortless. It looks, you know, if 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:04.120 looks like it just happened, um and um. And with 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.440 with Hell or High Water and with with Manchester, you 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:09.200 could tell somebody sat down to feel the technique. Yeah, yeah, 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:12.480 you feel that, which which you know. But I think 0:14:12.480 --> 0:14:14.920 you're probably right now, Chris. I am finally letting go 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.719 of Tom Hanks getting an Oscar nomination this year. I 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:19.600 think maybe you should let go of Hell or High 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.720 Water winning anything this year. I've never what do you 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.240 mean you really think it could win Original screen Play? 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:26.640 Have I harped on that? I don't. I don't think 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.880 it's harped on. No, I'm just saying that I do. 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.840 I think I think that's a lurking thing. Yeah, because 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.240 that movie has gone over well with like, let's say it, 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.120 the older white male demographic in the Academy, and it's 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.120 it's picking up you know, Best Picture votes, and I 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:44.240 don't know, I just think it's something that's Hey, I 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:47.120 told you all thirteen Hours was going to be nominator something. Yeah. No, 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.600 I mean, you know, I'll never question you again. What 0:14:50.680 --> 0:14:54.560 about the screen? I am now convinced it will be 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.920 Moonlight since it one the WJ and Original, although for 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.200 a long time I was thinking Arrival and Lyne and 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:02.640 even Hidden Figure you sneak in there. Yeah. No, I mean, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:05.400 I mean, you know, a lot of these very strong categories. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.720 But but I do think it's it's Moonlight. Yeah. I 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:10.000 mean winning the w g A against Layla Land in 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:14.640 Manchester was a huge boon, and and I'm thrilled we 0:15:14.680 --> 0:15:17.240 all think Viola is winning supporting actress. I mean, is 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:18.960 there even when I mean, if I if you were 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.600 the person who beat Viola when you come, I would 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:25.800 stay in my seat. No, I mean, you know, I 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:29.400 mean there's always surprises with oscars, so I think it's possible. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.680 But I'm telling you, if I had to have pissed 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:35.160 somebody off. If I were betting money on the Oscars, 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.760 that is the one category, the one wind that I 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.320 would bet money because, I mean, she's electric, you know, 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:45.480 it's you know, it's also got the narrative she's over you. Yeah, 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.360 it seems it's like it's been unquestioned all year, like, 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.960 oh yeah, Viola. Did you see Sam Jackson's rant about 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.160 how that's not a supporting role. Yeah, he's not wrong. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.800 She would have won lead to by the way, convinced. 0:15:55.920 --> 0:15:57.760 I kind of think so too. It would have been 0:15:57.800 --> 0:16:01.120 Denzel and Viola either way. Yeah, I think let's talk 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.120 about best Actor, the best Actor. I think it's Denzel. 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.400 He won the SAG Award. I'm think you know, I've 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.800 been saying I was saying him even before. Yes, so 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:12.240 were we. We thought it was a lock for the 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.000 longest time. Yeah, yeah, I mean I drifted away just 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.000 because Casey was so dominant in the well. I mean, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.240 Casey is excellent, he could win Best Actor, But I 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:27.480 think going against what SAG picked is sort of foolish. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:29.360 I'm going with Sag in each category. I'm going with 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.600 the Stone also, Yeah, Emma Stone. I mean, who could 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:36.440 even be mart. I'm sticking with my harshal Alley and 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:41.280 I'm really nervous. You're nervous. If he doesn't win, there's 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:45.760 gonna be some screaming coming from Culver City. Yeah, that's 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:47.720 probably the one I'm most invested in, although I mean, 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:51.760 come on, that category is Dev Patel is amazing. Michael Shannon, 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.960 Jeff Bridges, Lucas Hedges, these are all great actors. But 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.520 I just love from Michael Shannon to win. That speech 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:00.960 would be it'd be in the eazing. But you don't 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:02.480 have to wait a little while. He's just gonna have 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:05.200 to be content with continuously surprising us with his nomination. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:07.919 Michael Shannon will be just fine. He'll be He'll be 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.119 back in a year probably and we can see his 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:16.840 speech then. Cinematography, Uh La Land Lena's Yeah, Yeah, I 0:17:16.880 --> 0:17:19.000 think I think so too. Yeah A s c went 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:26.560 to Lyon but slightly surprising but not terribly Yeah, um 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:28.520 La La Land won the bath too. I'm picking La 0:17:28.600 --> 0:17:33.240 La costume design. Costume design is Jackie La La Land, Lion, 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:37.919 Moonlight and Passengers. Wait no, sorry, that's original score. I 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.720 was like, that's an interesting lineup. I was like, wait, 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.639 that can't be right. It is Jackie, Florence Foster, Jenkins, 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.680 La La land You. I can't even find it. Oh 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:53.040 here it is, yeah, allied fantastic to find jack and Lalla. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:58.240 I'm kind of leaning towards Fantastic Beasts really yeah. I mean, look, 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.800 I I like daring predictions, although I think it's La 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:04.199 La land um. You know, I mean, you know, the 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:09.359 conventional wisdom says, oh yeah, modern contemporary costumes ever again, 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.600 but you notice the costumes in there, you know, I 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:16.359 mean they're very striking. Really well yeah, well I think, well, Jackie, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:19.000 I mean that's amazing work. I mean it's a hard category. 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:23.399 It's not obvious costume porn anywhere. Lae Costor Jenkins has 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.600 some beautiful costumes. But the remember the four Front I 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.480 remember the main one at the end, remember like the 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.199 angel thing, Yeah something, But like I think that's a 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:36.400 lurking possibility actually, but I'm gonna go with Jackie. I think, yeah, 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.200 the best thing about Fantastic Beast and where to find 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:41.280 them is the costumes. I'd say the production design actually, 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:44.479 which I think has a possible shot at winning won 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.960 the BAFTA UM although it lost its category at the 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.879 Art Director's Guild to Passengers, Well, here's the thing about 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:55.359 production design, and we have a rival fantastic beasts Hail Caesar, 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:58.520 La La Land and Passengers have David and Sandy wasco 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.760 ever one before. That's insane to me. They're nominated this 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:03.840 year for La La Land. They did, Um, we're all 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.800 tennant bonds. They do all Quentin Tarantino's movies. Talk about 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:12.000 over too. Yeah, like I'm picking Yeah, yeah, although I 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:14.760 mean I don't know. Did you see Hail Caesar? Of course, 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:16.560 I mean that would be my personal choice. I mean 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.760 it's so it's so amazing, and you know again that 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.399 that was done in a very limited budget. Um, well, 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:26.040 Passengers is great too. Well yeah, yeah, I'm going with 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:28.679 law Land. With Arrival of the Spoiler, I think really 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.760 like a place where you could award it and it 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:37.359 does have like some iconic already. Yeah. So, um, do 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.679 you want to films or have you guys seen the shorts? 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:45.560 You know, I've only seen some of the Yeah, um, 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.560 so directing, directing, is there any question? I don't think so, 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:54.199 Damien Hill at least whever. Yeah, I mean, you know, 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:58.399 I mean there's always upsets, but I think it's not 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.760 going to be in that. What's the record the youngest 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:08.520 okay five years? Um, yeah, and so deserved picture. Yeah, 0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:14.960 I'm gonna go with oh, don't even oh, I got Yeah, 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:18.080 did we miss anything? We did? We missed? Documentary feature? 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:21.800 Documentary feature. Well, that's an interesting category. Yes, I am 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:24.280 sticking with thet I'm trusting people to do the right 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:26.240 thing and recognize that O J Made in America is 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:31.280 not a movie as possible. I mean, but I mean, 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.000 I will say I think this has been an amazing 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:39.320 year for documentary year. Those five terrific, but there's also 0:20:39.600 --> 0:20:42.960 like another dozen that we're really amazing that weren't not. Yeah, 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.040 I kind of think you're right. I kind of think 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.840 it's thirteen. But um, I mean I am not your 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.280 Negro Life, Animated Fire at Sea, these are these are 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.879 all really good. Yeah, I don't. I don't have the 0:20:53.920 --> 0:20:57.480 guts to be too uh adventurous here, So I'm gonna 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:01.080 go with OJ. You know what we fort was foreignlanguage film, 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:03.520 just foreign film. I think, like I said, I think 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:08.280 a man called Ova is going to be there, you 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:11.240 thinkin Yeah, I mean, it's just it's the most palatable 0:21:11.280 --> 0:21:14.480 of the nominees. It's uh, you know, it's charming. I 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:16.840 think it's like I just was talking to somebody. I 0:21:16.880 --> 0:21:19.280 call it like the palatable Tony Erdman. Actually, you know, 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:20.680 it takes Tony Erdman an hour and a half to 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:24.040 get going right, like man called Ova. It's really hits. 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:28.600 It strided early, and it's charming and you know that 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.880 it's a dark comedy and all that. Actually it would 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:34.159 be my personal pick probably, but I think it's going 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:38.560 to be the Salesman on as a legit like this 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:42.880 is what we think protests. I'm sure protest doesn't hurt, 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:46.520 and the fact that the title is out there because 0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:49.280 of the protests, But I mean, you know, he's also 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:51.879 a great filmmaker, and people genuinely do love that movie. 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.240 So you think I mean, I I think it's it's 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.040 Salesman too by exactly for the same reasons you did. 0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.760 I think. I think, I think it's a really good film, 0:21:59.760 --> 0:22:01.399