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Speaker 1: Everybody. Chris Harry with you on Chargers Weekly. We've got

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Speaker 1: an awesome episode today. A bit later, former NFL scout

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Speaker 1: Dan Hatman takes us inside an NFL front office this

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Speaker 1: time of year as teams prepare for the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: the Scouting Combine, and of course the NFL Draft. But

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Speaker 1: first NFL Networks Dave Damashek joins me to recap the

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Speaker 1: Wildcard round and pick this weekend's divisional playoff games. All

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Speaker 1: right here with Dave Damashek on Chargers Weekly. And Dave,

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Speaker 1: I have to say this. Last time you're on, it

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Speaker 1: was week right before Week five, Chargers were owed four.

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Speaker 1: Remember this I do. I'm coming back to you. I

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Speaker 1: remember talking with you. Your name again, my name is Chris,

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Speaker 1: Chris Harry. Yes, yes. And one of the things, Dave,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it by your your faith in the

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Speaker 1: Chargers never wavered because after that game they beat the Giants.

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Speaker 1: They win nine of their last twelve. Some of the

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Speaker 1: people you've talked to on your podcast, Melvin Ingram, for instance,

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Speaker 1: made the Pro Bowl. Both Melvin's both Melvin Melvin Gordon

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Speaker 1: as second alternate. A lot of good vibes, a lot

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Speaker 1: of good synergies between DDFP and the Chargers. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to think so. And I'd like to think that the

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Speaker 1: strong play over the remaining seventy five percent of the

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Speaker 1: season is directly owed to my confidence that it's a

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Speaker 1: bad deal, that that insinuated its way into the locker

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Speaker 1: it's the same conversation we had after the Chargers went

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Speaker 1: frustrating year. I mean, that's the takeaway. And it really was.

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Speaker 1: You know, we you and I talked about it off

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Speaker 1: You know, you felt like one of those losses almost

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Speaker 1: it came down to it. But it also still shaped up.

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Speaker 1: And I, you know, because I stood by it. I said,

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Speaker 1: mulligans are for cowards. I'm not taking a mulligan on

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Speaker 1: my preseason picked at the Chargers. Get that division. They

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Speaker 1: nearly did your problem. And you know the trip to KC,

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Speaker 1: And you know, even that game where people sort of

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Speaker 1: the Chargers or something like that. You know, there's there

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Speaker 1: keep in mind Phil Rivers, what what what did he do?

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Speaker 1: Did he put him into the lead with the touchdown

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Speaker 1: a Then the wheels fell up. Then they had four

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Speaker 1: same thing we were talking about in August. This team

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Speaker 1: pro football, people will always other teams will slip through

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Speaker 1: the cracks who who've suffered a lot. But the fan

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Speaker 1: base of the Chargers deserves better at this point, alrighty,

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, not because the team is

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Speaker 1: just the heartbreakers that just little things are going against you.

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Speaker 1: At some point you want to see it turn around

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Speaker 1: Maybe Keenan all never looks back in the next stop

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Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, Dave, we're still in the teeth

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Speaker 1: season long that would assaulted the game. Chris Chandler under center.

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Speaker 1: That's correct. Funny yep, Jamal Anderson and company go on

427
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Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl, depriving our eyes. Falcons weren't good,

428
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Speaker 1: but they weren't good enough to hang with the Broncos.

429
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Speaker 1: And you knew that going in fifteen and one Bronchos Randy,

430
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Speaker 1: I mean Vikings, Randy Moss's rookie season against the defending

431
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Speaker 1: champion Broncos. Why the football gods deprived us of that one?

432
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, that would have been a lot

433
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Speaker 1: of fun. So we both have Atlanta here, we're taking Atlanta.

434
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Speaker 1: I'm not ready to issue my final pick towards Philly.

435
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna agree in the next one Tennessee

436
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Speaker 1: at New England. No one's given the Titans a shot

437
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Speaker 1: because they probably don't have a shot. I'm gonna go Philly.

438
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: I don't give the Titans a shot. Maurice Jones drew

439
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Speaker 1: again to drop his name. I think formally is picking

440
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Speaker 1: the Titans because he thinks that Derrick Henry is going

441
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Speaker 1: to be able to beat up that Patriots defense. And

442
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Speaker 1: I don't disagree about that. But listen, there's no greater

443
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Speaker 1: one sided head to head going between two football men

444
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Speaker 1: in the twenty first century than Tom Brady versus Dick Lebo.

445
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: Dick Lebo's defenses get torched because by twelve because he

446
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: has the cheat code he spreads out with Dick Lebo.

447
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: He thought it's pretty straightforward and it's remarkable stuff. In fact,

448
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,360
Speaker 1: Dick Lebo is one of the all time great coaches,

449
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Speaker 1: except he has no ability to adjust to Brady, who

450
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: spreads him out and just picks him apart and does

451
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Speaker 1: it every time. The numbers. In fact, I was just

452
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Speaker 1: saying that anecdotally and one of our co workers, Ken Brown,

453
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: came up to me. He said, I heard what you said.

454
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Speaker 1: I looked that up and h I think their head

455
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Speaker 1: to head, like the last five, he's five and Ozho

456
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Speaker 1: and his you know, fifteen touchdowns, zero picks, and it's

457
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Speaker 1: it's dominating anyway. So yeah, I'm gonna listen. If this

458
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Speaker 1: one isn't seventeen seven, twenty to seven something like that

459
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Speaker 1: going into the half, I'll be very surprised. This one

460
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Speaker 1: is not going to be close. I don't think last

461
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Speaker 1: three head to head Patriots Titans Tennessee has been outscored

462
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Speaker 1: one twenty six to twenty nine. I mean, listen, what

463
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Speaker 1: the of them. One of them was a fifty nine

464
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Speaker 1: nothing Jeff Fisher LED's right, but the other two were

465
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Speaker 1: blowouts as well. So I don't I remember that game

466
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Speaker 1: because I'm a uniform nerd and that they wore their

467
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Speaker 1: AFL get ups that day. Yeah, they had on the

468
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Speaker 1: powder blue hats. Yeah, that was the only good looking

469
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Speaker 1: thing about that day for the Titans. All Right, we

470
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Speaker 1: both had the Patriots this one. You're a little nervous

471
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Speaker 1: for this one. Jacksonville Pittsburgh steels yours team. That's right.

472
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Speaker 1: We saw what the Jacksonville Jaguards did earlier in the year.

473
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Speaker 1: Big Ben at five picks. I don't think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen again, Dave. You seem to think that it's gonna

475
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Speaker 1: be a lot closer than I do. Wow, listen the

476
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Speaker 1: idea again. These things don't happen in a vacuum. It

477
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Speaker 1: wasn't like Ben Roethlisberger slept on the wrong side of

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Speaker 1: the bed the night before that game, and that is

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Speaker 1: why he threw five interceptions. The Jags make you look bad,

480
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Speaker 1: and the Steelers early on were not running with Levy

481
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Speaker 1: and Bell, so they were so they needed to throw

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Speaker 1: it a little bit. And if the Jags get him

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Speaker 1: in that spot, which they very well made. Now that

484
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Speaker 1: they're stopping the run better with Marcel Darius and beyond.

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Speaker 1: You know, if Levy and Bell can't get rolling, and

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Speaker 1: I certainly anticipate I think one Todd Haley and Roethlisberger

487
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Speaker 1: will try to hit him early, and I wouldn't I

488
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Speaker 1: won't be surprised if they go upstairs to Martavis Bryant

489
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Speaker 1: to test that, not to Antonio Brown and not Jiuju.

490
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Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna try something with Martevis to

491
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Speaker 1: try and hit him early. And because what you obviously

492
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Speaker 1: want to do with the Jags is get ahead of them. Yeah,

493
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Speaker 1: if it's close and Roethlisberger is obliged to be throwing

494
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Speaker 1: the ball, it's gonna be scary. Listen, Dave, all all

495
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Speaker 1: my Pittsburgh friends. Day, Roethlisberger was terrible. He's not gonna

496
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Speaker 1: throw nay five picks this game, like well, listen, that's

497
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Speaker 1: what the Jaggers want him to do. And then didn't

498
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Speaker 1: happen because he was bad. He would look bad because

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Speaker 1: the Jags defense is built to take care of a

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Speaker 1: guy like that. Do you think teams are gonna be

501
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Speaker 1: looking at that San Francisco tape from three weeks ago

502
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Speaker 1: and see if there's a weakness because the Jags they

503
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Speaker 1: didn't finish this season, well man, they lost their last

504
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Speaker 1: two Buffalo. Listen to the Charges beat the Bills by

505
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Speaker 1: thirty with Peterman and Tyrod Taylor in the game. So

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Speaker 1: I don't put a lot of stock in Buffalo's offense.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if Jimmy g exposed something that

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Speaker 1: maybe the Steelers can exploited as well. I listen, I hope,

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Speaker 1: I hope you're right. That's all I can tell you. Listen,

510
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Speaker 1: I don't care if the Steelers win two nothing, just survive,

511
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Speaker 1: go to Foxborough and do what all the Football America

512
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Speaker 1: outside at least of the New England region in Football America,

513
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: by the way, to see if I told you before

514
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Speaker 1: we came on, Mike Mitchell's already talked about the Patriots.

515
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Speaker 1: They got to get through Jacksonville first. That's the one

516
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Speaker 1: thing I don't like that. I don't understand that about

517
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Speaker 1: teams versus the Saints. We're gonna get to now in

518
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Speaker 1: New Orleans at Minnesota. The Saints are breaking out a broom,

519
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: they're sweeping up the locker room because they swept the Panthers.

520
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: I get it to division rival, and I get you,

521
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Speaker 1: you know, hate the Panthers. You want to beat them,

522
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: and you beat them three times, you should be excited.

523
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: But Minnesota beat the Saints in Week one, they may

524
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Speaker 1: break out their own broom. I know, listen that I

525
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: one of the most vapid cliches in sports is the

526
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Speaker 1: one you were here in a lot before this Saints

527
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: Panthers game. Hey, it's hard to beat the same team

528
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Speaker 1: three times in the same season. You know what's harder

529
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Speaker 1: to do is to lose the first two to a

530
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Speaker 1: team and then somehow magically think, oh, yeah, this time

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Speaker 1: we'll get them. Why why they've already shown you that

532
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Speaker 1: that they can't do it, like one time. Maybe Wow,

533
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: we didn't have a Listen the Steelers pay attention. Oh

534
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: that game was a fluke. I hope that the guys

535
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Speaker 1: in the locker room aren't agreeing with the fans out there, like,

536
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Speaker 1: oh that game was a fluke. No, No, it happened

537
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: for a reason. Same thing now with the Saints. I'm

538
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Speaker 1: going to take the Vikings here for exactly that reason.

539
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: The Vikings beat them. I know it was week one,

540
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: it was forever ago champions. I was all, I get it, yes,

541
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Speaker 1: exactly right, I get all that stuff. And yet at home,

542
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: the way that team's constructed defense, Um, I think I

543
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: think they have enough on their home turf to take

544
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: care of it. And the incentive that you can play

545
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: two more games in your home stadium and be a

546
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Speaker 1: world champion. I mean, a lot of teams that get

547
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: into the playoffs they don't. You don't even think about that.

548
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: But the Vikings literally have a chance to win their

549
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 1: next two games and get the best. The thing to

550
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: root for, if you are an objective football fan is,

551
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: in my opinion, is to root for the Vikings to

552
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: be hosting the NFC title game because think about the stakes. Obviously,

553
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: the super Bowls on the line, but not just for

554
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: the Vikings, but when they run out onto that field.

555
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: And keep in mind they haven't been to a super

556
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: Bowl since seventy six, so imagine how nervous their fans

557
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: will be freaking out. I know a lot of them.

558
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: If we can just survive these sixty minutes, not only

559
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: are we back in the super Bowl finally, after this,

560
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,239
Speaker 1: after this long through the desert, tough we've been out

561
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: in the desert, but not only do we get to

562
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, it'll be here. By the way, the

563
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: road team has the same stakes the road team. I

564
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: submit whoever it is. If it's the Vikings and the

565
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: road team, when they run out on the field, they

566
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: should be carrying their luggage with them to get in

567
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: the heads of the Vikings and to be like, yep,

568
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: we packed for two weeks and this keep their bags

569
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Speaker 1: on the sidelines, and then when the game's over, they

570
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: just go to sleep on the field and then they

571
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: just sleep there for the next two weeks in anticipation

572
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. You know what, I tell the story.

573
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Speaker 1: Do you remember when the Lakers played the Celtics in

574
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Speaker 1: the finals, And I think it was the year the

575
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: Celtics won. It may be, I don't know, it may

576
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: have been the two years later. Anyway, Doc Rivers put

577
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: like a bunch of money up in the Celtics locker room.

578
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: It was like, we're coming back next year to get it.

579
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: And you know, shirt enough, they got back to the

580
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: finals and got it. But I like that, I like,

581
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's a very Sean Payton thing to do, too,

582
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: is to like, hey, pack your bags, we're not leaving Minnesota.

583
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: I think, listen, I want Minnesota to win this game.

584
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: I want them to get to the Super Bowl. I

585
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: love the Case Kingdom story. I love Mike Zimmer. I

586
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: think that defense is a Super Bowl defense. I just

587
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: think the Saints are too good. Last week, that running game,

588
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: which has carried them all season long, couldn't really do

589
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: much of anything. But everyone forgets he got Drew Brees

590
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: and he was throwing it all around the yard. I

591
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: think they have a lot of different ways to beat

592
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Speaker 1: you offensively, and these rookies, led by Marshawn Latti bred

593
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Speaker 1: that that defense is playing as well as anybody. I

594
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Speaker 1: agree with you, and uh yeah, I mean if I guess,

595
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: if I had to, you know, put all the money

596
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: in my bank account seventy three dollars up for up

597
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Speaker 1: on a team, I would put it on the Saints.

598
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Speaker 1: You know, I think that the Yeah, I'm with you completely.

599
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: You know, they experienced quarterback, high end quarterback. I think

600
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Speaker 1: both of those things do matter. And then conversely, I

601
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: think you want young athleticism. You know, we always here,

602
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: Give me a veteran savvy, and I it matters at

603
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: one position as far as I'm concerned. Otherwise, give me young,

604
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: fast and all that over over veteran savvy. That's what

605
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: That's what matters. And the Saints have both things going

606
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: for him. So all right, so you picked the Eagles,

607
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Eagles, all right. I took the Falcons.

608
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Speaker 1: We both have the Patriots, we both have the Steelers,

609
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Speaker 1: and I have the Saints. You have the Vikings. Are

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Speaker 1: the Saints. I'll take the pick them both. I'm gonna

611
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Speaker 1: take the Vices. I said, I think that the Saints

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have about my formal picks are these? Okay, Eagles, Eagles, Vikings, Yes, Patriots, Steelers.

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Speaker 1: I didn't tell you what my Jags Steelers pick on.

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Speaker 1: I think, I know, I think. I just know you're nervous,

615
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Speaker 1: and i'd be I'd be nervous to take the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: steel Okay, I'm gonna take the Pittsburgh Steelers to do

617
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Speaker 1: what's right. When do you guys? Do you guys make

618
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: your picks on DDFP Thursday. We make them on Thursday. Okay?

619
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Speaker 1: Where where can people find the Dave damage K Football Program?

620
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: They need to find it on their own, they need

621
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Speaker 1: to seek it out. I'm not even going to promote it.

622
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: I got too much of my brain. Right now. You

623
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Speaker 1: can find it on Apple's podcasts, and you can find

624
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: it on NFL dot Com Slash Podcasts. I encourage you

625
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Speaker 1: to check it out. By the way, we did actually

626
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: have a great conversation with William mc ginnis coming up

627
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Speaker 1: on Thursday. We already it today, but it'll post on

628
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Speaker 1: Thursday with the rest of the game picks and everything.

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Speaker 1: But he goes to good teatriots insight, go, I mean

630
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Speaker 1: for real, goes deep on the melodrama and what's really

631
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Speaker 1: going on. Will Tom Brady be there next year? Will

632
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Speaker 1: Build Balichick be there? A lot of good a lot

633
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Speaker 1: of good insight on the truth of what's happening inside

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Speaker 1: that building? Right, Wow, that's quite the tease. Check it out.

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Speaker 1: Dave thinks so much, man, sure thing fellow. And it's Chris, right,

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Speaker 1: it's Chris Chris Hary charges Week Chris Chris or Harry

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Speaker 1: Chris Harry. Oh you can call me, you can call

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Speaker 1: me Hayry. Can you write that down on a piece

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Speaker 1: of paper for me? Why I don't. I don't really

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Speaker 1: need it, I don't really care. I just throw it away,

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Speaker 1: all right. Dan Haptan joins me on Chargers Weekly, A

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Speaker 1: former NFL scout stops at the Jets, the Giants and Eagles.

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Speaker 1: Currently the director of Scouting Development at the Scouting Academy,

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Speaker 1: and Dan, I appreciate you joining me. I thought it'd

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Speaker 1: be fun for our listeners to get a peek behind

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Speaker 1: the curtain into NFL front offices this time of year,

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Speaker 1: especially with the Senior Bowl and the Combine on the horizon.

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Speaker 1: But first, if you could explain what the Scouting Academy

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Speaker 1: is and how it got started. Oh well, first, thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me on and excited to speak to Chargers fans.

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Speaker 1: The Academy really came from my experiences getting into the

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Speaker 1: league entry level scout. I was with three different organizations.

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, I spent some time coaching football in college,

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Speaker 1: and a couple of things struck me throughout that. One

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Speaker 1: is I got in because I was lucky, right. I

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Speaker 1: got in because I was trying to walk on to

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Speaker 1: the University at Albany as a five ten defensive tackle,

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Speaker 1: which let's just say by hight alone, there wasn't much

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Speaker 1: of a pro career in my future. And that's where

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Speaker 1: the Giants did training camp. So when people ask me,

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Speaker 1: you know, what did you do to get yourself in?

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Speaker 1: I picked the right undergrad and got lucky. And I

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Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that's best practice for the entire NFL.

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Speaker 1: I would like it to be more merit based, so

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Speaker 1: we wanted to build a pipeline for that. And then

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Speaker 1: the second part is at each one of my stops,

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Speaker 1: I had tremendous mentors that meant a great deal to

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Speaker 1: me and helped me progress. But the problem is they

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Speaker 1: have a job to do and hours they need to

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Speaker 1: commit to that, and there wasn't a standardized training program

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Speaker 1: at those places to really bring young people along in

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Speaker 1: a comprehensive way, and we just felt we could take

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Speaker 1: and extract. There's so many people have spent their lives

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Speaker 1: dedicated to the game, and so we were able to

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Speaker 1: bring together some former GMS, former head coaches, former personnel

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Speaker 1: directors and build an online class that goes through the

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Speaker 1: fundamentals of each position and what to look for that's

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Speaker 1: applicable everywhere, and we've been able to bring a number

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Speaker 1: of people through. In fact, the Chargers have one of

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Speaker 1: our alumni as a scouting assistant now and had one

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Speaker 1: last year as well, and it's exciting times. One of

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Speaker 1: the things is I actually took a semester this a

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago when I was working for the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: and just the knowledge that you have behind you, Dan,

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Speaker 1: when you talk about guys like Jerry Angelo and Lewis

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Speaker 1: Riddick and Wade Phillips, I mean that that stuff that

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Speaker 1: is priceless. Oh yeah, we had to bring together people

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Speaker 1: that were a whole lot smarter than I am, right,

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Speaker 1: and people spent again, spent their lives. I think the

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Speaker 1: last count was like almost five hundred years of NFL

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Speaker 1: experience on staff right now. And so yeah, you're going

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Speaker 1: to hear from these people again that have been doing this.

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Speaker 1: You know, Howard mud has been fifty years in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and you're going to hear from him on what he

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Speaker 1: looks for at different traits and how he is, you know,

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Speaker 1: identify as pass protectors and how he identified as used

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Speaker 1: to hands, and how he identifies run blockers and things

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Speaker 1: of that nature. And so yeah, that information has just

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Speaker 1: been a game changer for myself and I you know,

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Speaker 1: in many of the alumni that have come to the program.

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Speaker 1: And it's great for not only folks who want to

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Speaker 1: learn the business of football and scouting, but really fans

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Speaker 1: too to better understand the game and you know, what

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Speaker 1: your favorite team is doing. The type of defenses and

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Speaker 1: offenses they're running, the type of players that they're bringing

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Speaker 1: into their program. So I suggest folks Chargers fans check

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Speaker 1: it out. Go to scouting at king dot com to

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Speaker 1: learn more. But let's get to the Chargers, Dan because

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Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn, first year head coach. He led the team

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Speaker 1: to a nine and seven record in his first season.

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Speaker 1: And you know coach Lynn from your time of the Jets,

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Speaker 1: and I saw you retweeted a message his message to

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Speaker 1: the team after we beat the Raiders in week seventeen.

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Speaker 1: What makes you so enthusiastic about what he's building in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles? There are certain people in this business, really

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Speaker 1: in any business, but let's we're talking specific football. There's

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Speaker 1: certain people that you gravitate towards. Um. You know, they'll

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Speaker 1: hear the phrase leaders of men, and I you know,

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Speaker 1: I remember hearing. There's there's two types of players in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They're professional football players and those that play

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Speaker 1: professional football. When you find a person that's a professional

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Speaker 1: football player, this is their path. They're dedicated, their discipline,

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Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. They want they want to

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Speaker 1: be successful. They're not going to respond necessarily to everybody.

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Speaker 1: They want credibility and competency in that top position. They

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Speaker 1: want someone that they believe is putting them in the

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Speaker 1: best position and succeed holding them accountable and doing it

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Speaker 1: the right way. And the coach Lynn checks all those

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Speaker 1: boxes for me from the standpoint of how people respond

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Speaker 1: to him, again, the level of detail, the way he

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Speaker 1: can it's not just yelling at people. Anybody can chastise

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Speaker 1: somebody else, but when you talk about holding someone accountable,

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Speaker 1: it means showing them here is what we asked you

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Speaker 1: to do, here's what you did, here's how they don't

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Speaker 1: match up, and here's how we're going to help you

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Speaker 1: prepare for that in the future. And coaches the kind

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Speaker 1: of person that can walk through that entire process while

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Speaker 1: commanding respect from them because again, he can make players

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Speaker 1: believe he's going to put them in a position to

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Speaker 1: be successful because he will. And I look at it

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Speaker 1: this past year, Dan, you know, obviously with relocation and

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Speaker 1: everything happened in the offseason, start owing four. Not many

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Speaker 1: coaches can rebound from that and win nine of your

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Speaker 1: last twelve. And I think it's just a testament to

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Speaker 1: how coach Lynn approached the job and how he never flinched,

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Speaker 1: and we talk about coaching trees. I mean, there's not

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Speaker 1: a better coaching tree than the one that that coach

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Speaker 1: Lynn came from. We talked about Bill Walsh and Mike

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Speaker 1: Shanahan and Parcels. How important is that to have those

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Speaker 1: types of ties and to kind of lean on that knowledge,

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Speaker 1: especially in your first year as a head coach. I

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Speaker 1: was actually just having this conversation earlier today with someone

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Speaker 1: about things that I get attracted to in the process

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Speaker 1: from a candidate, particularly for a top job, in that

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Speaker 1: those that in their developmental years when they're building their

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Speaker 1: football foundation get exposed to different trains of thought, different programs,

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Speaker 1: different ways of doing things, different problems that they've seen.

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Speaker 1: In solutions to those things of that nature, they're better equipped.

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Speaker 1: And so someone like coach who between the playing career

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Speaker 1: and the coaching career and all the different minds he's

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Speaker 1: exposed to, not just from an XS and O standpoint,

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Speaker 1: but from how to build an organization again, what difficulties

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Speaker 1: and hurdles they had to face, how they worked through those,

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Speaker 1: the people that were able to do that, the people

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Speaker 1: that weren't. From a staffing perspective, he just has so

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Speaker 1: much so much to draw from. So the things that

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Speaker 1: the Chargers saw this year and we'll see in future years,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to come as a surprise. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to shouldn't say it that way. They're not going

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Speaker 1: to come from a place of, oh, well what do

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Speaker 1: I do now? You know he's got experiential learning for

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Speaker 1: hand on again times that I've been in that situation,

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Speaker 1: Here's where we were, here's what we did, and be

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Speaker 1: able to really put that forward night. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: such an asset to that organization. Dan, looking back on

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Speaker 1: this past season, I think you have to give John

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Speaker 1: Spanos and general manager time to Lesko and company a

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Speaker 1: ton of credit for identifying impact talent late in the

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Speaker 1: draft or even undrafted free agents. We talked about Desmond King,

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Speaker 1: a fifth rounder. They found a perfect place to play

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Speaker 1: him in the nickel when Jason Brett went down after

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Speaker 1: Week one. Trevor Williams, undrafted guy from Penn State, second

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Speaker 1: year in the league, started fifteen games and played at

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Speaker 1: a very high level. Darius Filon, a sixth rounder, meaningful

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Speaker 1: snaps at d line, and of course Austin Eckler from

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Speaker 1: little known Western State, had a huge impact. On the

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Speaker 1: offensive year over five hundred total yards, five touchdowns. How

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Speaker 1: difficult is it as a scout, as an evaluator to

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Speaker 1: find this type of talent late because in many ways

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Speaker 1: you're identifying characteristics and attributes that many others do not

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Speaker 1: see or for that matter of value. I think a

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Speaker 1: lot of it becomes from you hear the phrase again,

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Speaker 1: organizational alignment. These are buzzwords, right, These are things that

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Speaker 1: we talk about, and every organization wants to have those

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Speaker 1: that execute better. I believe philosophically they are looking for

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Speaker 1: certain elements that they know they can immediately put on

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Speaker 1: the field in leverage, and some do that better than others.

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Speaker 1: I think when you allow everybody in your organization to say, well,

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Speaker 1: I like this type of running back, and I like

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Speaker 1: this type of dtackle, and I like this type of

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, and everyone's got someone that they're fighting for.

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Speaker 1: But when you bring all that together, it doesn't mesh

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Speaker 1: because their skill sets vary, they don't line up. It

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Speaker 1: gets to be tougher. But when you look and you

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Speaker 1: mentioned you know Tom Telesco, and you look at Jojo

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Speaker 1: Wooden and Randy Mueller and Kevin Kelly and Lewis Clark

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Speaker 1: and all the people that are in that administrative tier

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Speaker 1: for the Chargers, I believe again the proofs in the

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Speaker 1: pudding that when they go look at these players when

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Speaker 1: you drop down to those ranges from later free agency

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Speaker 1: or later in the draft or what have you, the

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Speaker 1: players not going to check every box because if they did,

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Speaker 1: they'd go higher. Exactly. So what you're looking for our

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Speaker 1: which boxes do they check? And if there is something

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Speaker 1: that they lack that we require, that's a deal breaker.

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Speaker 1: We don't bring them in. But what do they bring

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Speaker 1: to the table that we can use. And again, the

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Speaker 1: teams that have success in the later rounds and again

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Speaker 1: in different parts of free agency or claiming players or

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Speaker 1: what have you, are able to identify, Okay, here's what

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Speaker 1: he does well and exactly how our staff uses that.

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Speaker 1: And they keep putting those guys in the pipeline. And

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Speaker 1: it makes the coach's lives a lot easier because you

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Speaker 1: will have attrition one way or the other. In the

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Speaker 1: National Football League, you're starting fifty three will not be

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Speaker 1: your ending fifty three. So again, having those players that

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Speaker 1: you can pull up and say, okay, we know what

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Speaker 1: he does. He does these things we call these plays

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Speaker 1: and make those things mesh. It's a huge asset. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean case in point, you know, Mike Williams goes

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Speaker 1: down with a back injury and the offseason doesn't start

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Speaker 1: the year till week five or week six forrest Lamp

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Speaker 1: You'll lose him your second round pick to a season

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Speaker 1: ending knee injury and training camp, and in many ways

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Speaker 1: you have to find guys who are going to be

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Speaker 1: able to step up immediately at the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 1: I'm even guys like Dan Feeny, a third rounder, to

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Speaker 1: start nine games this year and get that experience. I

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Speaker 1: just think it was pretty remarkable how the front office

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Speaker 1: was able to plug a lout of these holes and

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Speaker 1: do it with late round guys and undrafted guys. Dan.

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Speaker 1: When you when you look at the Chargers who stood

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Speaker 1: out to you on tape watching them this season, I mean,

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Speaker 1: how do you not look at those pass rushers first

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Speaker 1: and fours. Yep, It's it's phenomenal. Um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: think I don't think it was hard to see Bosa

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Speaker 1: had on film it ohuse state and translate that to NFL.

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Speaker 1: And kudos to the Chargers for not ignoring that or

849
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: diminishing that or what have you and capturing that as

850
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: early as they did. One of the things I remember

851
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: early in my career I had some people will explain

852
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: to me was that when a player comes off a

853
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: brand new contract, generally league wide, there's usually a drop

854
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: in production. You know, money is an incentive. Incentive is

855
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: what we all run on. So people usually perform better

856
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: when that incentives there. So I want to give a

857
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: huge kudos to Melvin Ingram for coming out of you know,

858
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: contract negotiations and those things which don't always lead to

859
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: greater performance in the future. They can, you know, they

860
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: have a variety of issues that come with them coming

861
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: out of something of that and putting together such a

862
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: remarkable year. And then what you know, Gus Bradley and

863
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: staff did too. I mean, you can see those guys

864
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: on the same side run a twist game together. I mean,

865
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 1: just the things that the application of those players and

866
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: understanding how you can disrupt protections was really remarkable from

867
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: where I sat this year. And then obviously you have

868
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 1: to go over to the offensive side, and you know

869
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: what a what a healthy Keenan Allen can do. It's

870
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: a pretty big difference, isn't it. Oh it's it's one

871
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: of those things, and you know they joke about availability

872
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: is the best ability, and he's obviously had those struggles

873
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: throughout his time. But it's remarkable what he can provide

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00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: to an organization, you know, when he can step on

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00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: the field and perform. So you talk about the players

876
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: that went down due to injury before adding them all

877
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: back to the mix for next year, there is a strong,

878
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: strong looking organization. We look at Philip Rivers in the

879
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: numbers that he put up this year, his lowest interception

880
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: total since two thousand and nine. Dan he was sacked

881
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: eighteen times. He was sacked thirty six times these seasons before,

882
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: and again the availability he was throwing to, you know,

883
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: second third string guys last year, I felt like he

884
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: was pressing a little bit. It makes a huge difference

885
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: when you have your full complemental weapons on the outside.

886
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry takes the next step in what looks to

887
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: be a very bright career at tight end, and you

888
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,919
Speaker 1: mentioned it, all these guys are coming back next year.

889
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: Plus you're looking to see Mike Williams take that next leap,

890
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: and I think it was difficult for him to do

891
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,399
Speaker 1: that starting right in the middle of the year because

892
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: you're kind of easing yourself into this offense. It's already

893
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: humming with Keenan Allen and Tyrrell Williams and Travis Benjamin.

894
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: You hope that the experiences that Keenan has had in

895
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: the last few years, he'll be a great resource for Mike,

896
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, having to go through an injury struggle and

897
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: how to bounce back and how to stay on track

898
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 1: mentally and physically and things of that nature. So you

899
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: hope that that rubs off and helps in that way.

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00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: And you know, again, another one of these buzzwords that

901
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: you talk about is how it's a team and how

902
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: these units work with each other, and when the defense

903
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: puts a court