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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I appreciate all of you hanging out with

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Speaker 1: us as we powered through.

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Speaker 2: I have to be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four already feels crazy to me, Buck And

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Speaker 1: what are we eleven days into the calendar?

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Speaker 2: So far?

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Speaker 1: You got craziness happening everywhere, every direction. I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of you last night watched Nicki Haley Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 1: on CNN, A lot more of you I think probably

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Speaker 1: watched Donald Trump on Fox News with his town hall

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Speaker 1: in Iowa. We will talk about both of those are takeaways.

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Speaker 1: But yesterday, and we've talked about this for some time

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Speaker 1: on the show, that there was no pathway for Chris

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Speaker 1: Christy to win and that if he truly is basically

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Speaker 1: in a Donald Trump attack mode, which is the higher basis,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest, for his candidacy, that if that were

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Speaker 1: his goal, and clearly it was, that at this point

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Speaker 1: he is becoming a hindrance towards potentially Nicki Haley being

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Speaker 1: able to win in New Hampshire because just look at

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Speaker 1: the polling pretty much everybody who's voting for Chris Christy

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Speaker 1: would otherwise be supporting Ron DeSantis or even more likely,

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Speaker 1: I think probably Nicki Haley. Certainly those are not I

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Speaker 1: would think Trump voters, although the way voters make their decisions,

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Speaker 1: probably a couple of percent of Chris Christy voters will

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Speaker 1: actually end up voting for Donald Trump in the primary,

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Speaker 1: even though it doesn't make logical sense. But yesterday evening,

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Speaker 1: I think it was about five o'clock Eastern, shortly after

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Speaker 1: this program ended, while Sean Hannity was on, Chris Christy

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Speaker 1: made the decision to end his presidential campaign.

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Speaker 2: This is what it sounded like.

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Speaker 3: I've always said that there came a point in time

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Speaker 3: in this race where I couldn't see a path to

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Speaker 3: accomplishing that goal that I would get out and it's

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Speaker 3: clear to me tonight that there isn't a path for

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Speaker 3: me to win the nomination, which is why I'm suspending

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Speaker 3: my campaign tonight for President of the United States.

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Speaker 2: It's the right thing for me to do, because I

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Speaker 2: want to promise you this.

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Speaker 3: I am going to make sure that in no way

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Speaker 3: do I enable Donald Trump ever be president of the

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Speaker 3: United States again. And that's more important than my own

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Speaker 3: personal ambitions.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Chris Christy goes out then Buck. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if this happened right beforehand or right after, but

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Speaker 1: this almost immediately overshadowed the actual annoment announcement. Supposedly, Chris

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Speaker 1: Christy was caught on a live mic saying this.

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Speaker 3: People don't want to hear it. Wayne, they don't want

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Speaker 3: to hear it. We know we're right, but they don't

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Speaker 3: want to hear it. And this, you know, we couldn't

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Speaker 3: have been any clearer. If we couldn't have been anymore

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Speaker 3: any more, director worked any harder, so you know, get.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you could land the China and places like that, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what you get. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, look, she spent sixty eight million so

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Speaker 4: far just on TV, spent sixty eight million so far,

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Speaker 4: fifty nine million by Desantus, and we spent twelve. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, who's punching above their weight and who's getting

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Speaker 4: a return on their investment? You know, And she's going

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Speaker 4: to get smoked and you and I both know it.

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Speaker 4: She's not up to this.

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Speaker 5: She's still twenty points behind trumping them, yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: And he's he's still going to carry out right. Yes, oh,

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Speaker 2: he's I talked to this. Desantus calls me petrified that

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Speaker 2: I would be like getting out woul after to Iola.

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Speaker 6: Well, okay, so it's pretty good stuff, by the way,

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Speaker 6: pretty good stuff in there. Do you remember, real quick, Clay,

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Speaker 6: you were a West wing guy right back in the day,

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Speaker 6: to watch it, Ye, I watch Remember we remember the

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Speaker 6: the hot mic moment when President Bartlett says, of some

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Speaker 6: guy doesn't like he's a twenty two caliber mind in

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Speaker 6: a three fifty seven magnum world. And that was the ooh.

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Speaker 6: And then you find out the end of the episode

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Speaker 6: he knew the mic was on. Yes, I have a

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Speaker 6: hard time. This is the first thing comes to mind

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Speaker 6: for me. I think Chris Christy knew there was a

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Speaker 6: hot mic there. I don't think he's that undisciplined about

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Speaker 6: media that he didn't know, because think about what he's saying.

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Speaker 6: He's getting to talk, he's taking a victory lap, he's

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Speaker 6: trashing his opponents. He said time it sounded like something

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Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, well so here, yeah, here is what I

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Speaker 1: always think about the hot mic situation. When someone has

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Speaker 2: I never buy that they didn't know a hot mic

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Speaker 1: And I always say this is an easy way to track,

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Speaker 1: like who is the leaker? You know, there's always the

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Speaker 1: question of like, oh, the story's out, Like most of

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Speaker 1: the time you can figure out who's likely to have

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Speaker 1: leaked something based on who benefits from the leak, right

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Speaker 1: when there's anonymous sources involved in everything else.

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Speaker 2: So I don't think that this was accid.

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Speaker 1: If if there have been a hot mic come out

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Speaker 1: and Chris Christy said something that he that you didn't

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Speaker 1: want to go out, and you thought to my yourself,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, maybe that maybe that's not the situation you

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's micd and you and I are used

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Speaker 1: to this at this point. I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: hours a day I'm on a mic. I mean five

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Speaker 1: or six sometimes, I mean easily live mics, whether it's

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Speaker 1: television obviously this show, there's a mic in front of

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Speaker 1: us all day long, every day. I always say, live

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Speaker 1: mics are problems when you sound different than you would

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Speaker 1: in real life, right, and when you're putting on a

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Speaker 1: show like an artificial version of yourself. Otherwise people are fun.

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Speaker 1: You know, people are gonna say, yeah, that's kind of

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Speaker 1: what I would expect Clay Travis to say, because he

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Speaker 1: sounds kind.

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Speaker 6: Of remember all the time it's scripted, but in yes,

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Speaker 6: we sound exactly the same, especially if people like come

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Speaker 6: up to us in real life. Maybe there's sometimes a

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Speaker 6: little bit of saltier language, but other than that, it's

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Speaker 6: it's exactly the same. Do you remember in a third

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Speaker 6: when the Tina Fay character who's playing the head writer

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Speaker 6: on sn now effectively that's such a good and she

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Speaker 6: has an open mic and she trashes the whole crew. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's an open mic moment. She's like, so and so

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Speaker 6: is not doing this, and he's not doing that, and

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Speaker 6: they're so razy, and there's you know this with Chris

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Speaker 6: Christy to me, way too cute, Snicky Hayley is gonna

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Speaker 6: get smoked. Ron's calling me groveling, like the whole thing.

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Speaker 6: It just strikes me, as look, he's in this.

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Speaker 2: I don't disagree at all.

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say the problem here that I

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Speaker 1: see is Chris Christie said I'm gonna do everything in

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Speaker 1: my power to keep him from being president. Or I'm

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Speaker 1: paraphrasing him there. He doesn't have much power, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm sitting there, like, what can Chris Christy do

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Speaker 1: at this point to stop Donald Trump from being president?

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Speaker 1: My takeaway there is when he run as an independent?

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Speaker 1: That was That was my actual takeaway. And I don't

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Speaker 1: something like that. Could he take that that on? That

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Speaker 1: actually was my takeaway.

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Speaker 6: You know, I sit here and I know it right

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Speaker 6: now for those of you who live a very online life,

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Speaker 6: which is very few of you, fortunately, but Clay and

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Speaker 6: I you know, we do.

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Speaker 2: It's part of the part of the job comes with

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Speaker 2: the territory.

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Speaker 6: People are very tense right now about the primary and

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Speaker 6: there's a little bit of lashing out going on about

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Speaker 6: different candidates here and there, and I just you know,

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Speaker 6: I've done this. I've been through this before in primaries,

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Speaker 6: covering it and trying to be you know, even handed

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Speaker 6: in so far as I'm being honest, right like what

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Speaker 6: I said yesterday, Am I somebody who's a big fan

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Speaker 6: of Nicky Haley's I mean comparatively to the other candidates. No,

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Speaker 6: but I would vote for Nicky Haley over Joe Biden.

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Speaker 6: And so I bring this up because you never want

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Speaker 2: Just in the media, I think. I think in general,

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Speaker 2: it's a good rule for life. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: want at this last minute there to be like all

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Speaker 6: They're terrible, they're a bad person, they're not a patriot,

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Speaker 6: or whatever about the one candidate they really don't like,

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Speaker 2: I just don't think that's constructive.

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Speaker 6: Like, the people are about to vote, We're gonna see

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Speaker 6: how they do in Iowa. We're gonna find out, and

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Speaker 6: the voice of the people will be heard, you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean. I don't see anything I try to

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Speaker 6: minute push for your guy. I just think that that's

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Speaker 6: in a primary, that's kind of in a general that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially when let's be honest, assuming that we get

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Speaker 1: Trump versus Biden, and I understand all the people out there.

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Speaker 2: You're getting people riled up right now. I understand all

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Speaker 1: That's my angry, angry voice of the Internet masses who

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Speaker 1: get upset because the voting hasn't even started yet. But

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Speaker 1: assuming we get Trump Biden, which would be the expectation

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Speaker 1: right now, again, I think that the Democrats may break

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Speaker 1: let's let's just presume it's Trump be Biden. Particularly on

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Speaker 1: the Republican side, I think every single person who ran

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Speaker 1: And by twenty twenty six, I mean really soon, the

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Speaker 6: So we have, obviously, Chris Christy out. One thing I

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Speaker 6: wanted to ask you, and we didn't coordinate this before,

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Speaker 6: and I'm just curious, which was the first of the

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Speaker 6: two programs you went to, and did you watch both

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Speaker 6: or either of them live? The Trump town hall and

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Speaker 6: then just forever listening and the Nicky Haley versus Ronda

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Speaker 1: I started on CNN because it's two people and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you. Fifteen minutes in, I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is super boring. I just the one on one

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Speaker 1: debate between Nicky Haley and Ron De Santis. I thought,

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Speaker 1: it felt kind of boring. So I flipped over to

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Speaker 1: the town Hall and I got to give him credit.

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Speaker 1: I thought Trump was absolutely phenomenal in the town hall.

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Speaker 1: He was relaxed, he was likable, he was funny, he

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Speaker 1: at his best. I thought with Fox News Live, he

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Speaker 1: I think he does better with live audience like questions

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Speaker 1: than he does with the moderator questions, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I think he shows more respect for the general person

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Speaker 6: He's not gonna steamroll Bob the construction worker or Sally

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Buck put

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Speaker 6: Buck, you agree, we have I remember, we want, we

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Speaker 6: want strongly disagree with Clay. Totally agree with Buck. He's

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Speaker 6: always right.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. We have Chris in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Oh is he gone? Sorry?

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Speaker 4: He go?

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Speaker 2: Bob in Miamisburg, Ohio. Miamisburg. Yeah, oh wow, Yes, Miami's Burg.

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Speaker 2: Sorry about that? What's up, Bob?

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's the only Miamisburg in the United States, which

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Speaker 5: is kind of cool.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, I appreciate you, but you.

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Speaker 5: Guys, this is uh, this is.

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Speaker 7: A pretty interesting topic. I got to.

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Speaker 5: Watch the debate between Nicky Haley and Desanta's not terrible

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Speaker 5: job so and I think they were equally as terrible.

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Speaker 1: You dislike the performance from Ron DeSantis and Nicky Haley?

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Speaker 2: Are you a Trump supporter?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I am a Trump supporter.

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Speaker 7: I'm not sure. My issue is I'm not sure that.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna let Trump get anywhere near.

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Speaker 7: The White House.

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Speaker 2: Bob, who's your number two? Pick? Though?

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Speaker 6: Who's who's your number two? If you couldn't have Trump,

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Speaker 6: Let's just say, if you didn't win the.

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Speaker 5: Primary debate, Ramaswami.

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Speaker 2: That, Okay, thanks for Paul. It doesn't surprise me.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me that if you like Trump, you

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Speaker 1: think Nicky Haley and Ron DeSantis stunk. I would suggest

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Speaker 1: that that might possibly be impacted by you liking Trump.

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Speaker 1: And it also doesn't surprise me there's only four candidates left.

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Speaker 1: Most Trump people, i think, are going to say their

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Speaker 1: second favorite pick is the Vake because he's basically aligned

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Speaker 1: himself with Trump on everything right, he hasn't created very

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Speaker 1: much space other than he's a younger version of Trump.

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Speaker 6: The Vike creates a Trump Plan B for everybody. That's

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Speaker 6: what the campaign is. It's Trump if you can't have Trump,

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Speaker 6: which really just means that the people that want THEVEC

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Speaker 6: as a second choice just want Trump, but they are.

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Speaker 1: By the way, might not be a bad spot. He

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Speaker 1: could get the VP potentially. Trump did say, and we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about this maybe in the second hour, that he

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Speaker 1: had already picked his VP, kind of we'll play that audio.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit confusing. Andrew, Uh, do you buy

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Speaker 1: that I was gonna.

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Speaker 6: Say he would he would change Trump would change his

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Speaker 6: mind in a heart. I'm sure he's telling the truth

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Speaker 6: in so far as he's like, I've made my pick,

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Speaker 6: but he would change his mind and if you wanted to,

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Speaker 6: and nobody would know the difference. And Arizona, Yeah, what

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Speaker 6: do he got? Two interesting spots, buck Guy Arizona.

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Speaker 2: I love you guys.

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Speaker 8: The issue with Clay when he says that Trump's a

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Speaker 8: bull in a china shop, the liberal media and the

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Speaker 8: liberal politicians made that man a bull in the china shop.

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Speaker 9: He has to come out with everything.

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Speaker 8: He's got guns to blazon that.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but you don't think sometimes along the way,

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Speaker 1: Trump creates self inflicted errors that are unnecessary, that don't

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Speaker 1: help him make the arguments that he would otherwise make.

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Speaker 7: I do, but most of the country's not gonna understand that.

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Speaker 7: Because I'm from New York. He's from New York, and

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Speaker 7: I can understand where he comes from with that.

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Speaker 2: I look, I thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: I totally appreciate where people end up, not the mess

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Speaker 1: sometimes that they make along the way. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I'm sometimes a little bit messy on a day to

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Speaker 1: day basis too so.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of what Trump creates, Buck, you would

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Speaker 2: agree with this.

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Speaker 1: I think I think most people out there would agree

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Speaker 1: even if you're a diehard Trump supporter, he creates messages

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Speaker 1: for himself that don't actually help him in getting to

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Speaker 1: the arguments that he's making.

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Speaker 2: Of course.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you can't have somebody who is, you know,

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Speaker 6: a bare knuckle brawler in the street and a disruptor

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Speaker 6: and taking on the system and smashing the machinery and

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Speaker 6: all this stuff and not have a guy who's gonna

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Speaker 6: sometimes throw a punch at the wrong moment or go

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Speaker 6: a little too far, or you know, you can't be

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Speaker 6: the great disruptor without a whole lot of disruption, including

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Speaker 6: sometimes I think, you know, the the impulse to do

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Speaker 6: those sorts of things. There's not always a perfect frump

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Speaker 6: discipline with it. But you know, you take, you take

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Speaker 6: what you take. You know, the good with the bad

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Speaker 6: on that stuff. Charles and Lexington, Kentucky, Charles M.

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Speaker 10: From the Geographic Top of the SEC correct. I did

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Speaker 10: not think. I did not think that Nikki Hayley did

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Speaker 10: a horrible job last night. I thought she had the

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Speaker 10: best lifeline of any of them when she told to

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Speaker 10: do Drake University students not to turn this into a

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Speaker 10: drinking game about watching for for DeSantis lies because they

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Speaker 10: get well over served. I thought that was a funny line.

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Speaker 6: So wait, can I I want to ask you. I

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Speaker 6: want to ask the something real quick. So Trump is

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Speaker 6: your is your first pick? This is what Nicky Haley.

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Speaker 6: This has cut five guys. We're going to keep Charles

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Speaker 6: with us. Nicki Haley said this last night. I was

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Speaker 6: a little surprised she said this play five.

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Speaker 9: I think ballots need to be accounted on election day

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Speaker 9: and you should get results on election day. But that

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Speaker 9: election Trump lost it. Biden won that election. And the

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Speaker 9: idea that he's gone and carried this out forever to

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Speaker 9: the point that he's going to continue to say these

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Speaker 9: things to scare the American people are wrong. We've seen

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Speaker 9: a lot of states come together and do more election

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Speaker 9: integrity bills. We need to do more than that. We

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Speaker 9: still have three or four states that I'm worried about

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Speaker 9: that don't have that. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 9: I will always defend and fight the Constant for the Constitution.

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Speaker 9: That's what we should do as Americans. I think what

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Speaker 9: happened on January sixth was a terrible day, and I

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Speaker 9: think President Trump will have to answer for it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, Charles.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if Trump is your number one and Nicky's

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Speaker 6: your number two, what do you make of Nicky saying

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Speaker 6: Trump lost and January sixth is horrible and he's responsible?

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Speaker 2: Did he leave?

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Speaker 10: Yes, President Biden.

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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 10: Now, how many of those votes were counted illegally? How

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Speaker 10: many of those votes came about because the Pennsylvania and

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Speaker 10: other state supreme courts violated the federal Constitution and changed

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Speaker 10: the rules in the middle of the game. That's that's

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Speaker 10: my version of election interference.

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Speaker 1: Look, I think that's a good answer. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: the call, by the way, and Lexingtuck.

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Speaker 6: I just thought that was interesting because NICKI one criticism

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Speaker 6: of Rohnda Santis from people I know who have been

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Speaker 6: all in, I mean, I know people that are openly

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Speaker 6: endorsing him and then in the media space, is that

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Speaker 6: he wanted to make the case without being overly harsh

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Speaker 6: on Trump supporters and some of their beliefs. Right, So

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Speaker 6: he wasn't going to say things like Trump lost and

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Speaker 6: was being a cry baby about it and Janey or

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Speaker 6: a six was his fault, Like.

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Speaker 2: He didn't do that. Nicky Haley just said that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, this is what she's saying on the stage,

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Speaker 6: And I think it's interesting that you got people that

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Speaker 6: Trump is their number one, Nicki Haley is their number two.

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Speaker 6: You see what I mean. There's kind of a there's

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Speaker 6: a little bit. I think it's interesting because.

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Speaker 1: There's so many This is like four dimensional chess now

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Speaker 1: as you play out the game theory of how.

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Speaker 2: This thing's gonna shake out.

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Speaker 1: Right, So, if Trump is the nominee, then I don't think,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what happens, and I could be wrong and

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Speaker 1: grab this, that Trump is still going to be a

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Speaker 1: viable candidate in twenty twenty eight, by which I mean

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Speaker 1: if Trump lost in twenty four at eighty one years old,

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Speaker 1: I don't think even the diehard Trump supporters are going

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Speaker 1: to say it's Trump or nobody else in twenty twenty eight, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. So I could be wrong and Trump

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Speaker 1: will be eighty one, he'd be the same age that

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Speaker 1: Biden is now, and he'd be you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: different candidate in theory by that by that time.

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Speaker 2: Just tossing it out there.

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Speaker 1: So, if you are DeSantis, if you are Nicky Haley,

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Speaker 1: if you are vivike Aramaswami, the three people left in

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Speaker 1: this race right now, part of you is running maybe thinking,

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Speaker 1: at least in Nicky Haley and Vivik Aramaswami's case, maybe

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Speaker 1: I want to end up VP, but also thinking, hey,

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Speaker 1: by twenty twenty six, this is going to be a

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Speaker 1: wide open primary, and I may be the favorite to

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Speaker 1: win in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 6: I just you know, Clay, For me, it's it's possible

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Speaker 6: to see the skill sets of all these different candidates,

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Speaker 6: and you know, you can break this down and put Trump.

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Speaker 2: Trump is kind of his own phenomenon.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I would want I would want Viveig

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Speaker 6: to be the CEO of my company. I would want

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Speaker 6: Ron to be the governor of my state. And I

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Speaker 6: would want Nicki Haley to start my forever war.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Pretty to go, that's pretty good. I think that the

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Speaker 1: most effective president. Now everybody's gonna get really mad at me.

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Speaker 1: I think the most effective nick president supporters would actually

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Speaker 1: be Ron DeSantis. I think the most effective communicator is

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Speaker 1: actually Donald Trump. I think the person that could win

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Speaker 1: the biggest landslide might.

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Speaker 2: Be Nicki Haley.

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Speaker 6: I the polls, she that is her most compelling point.

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Speaker 6: I mean to be fair and serious about this. For

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Speaker 6: a second poll show Nicki Haley undeniably annihilating, annihilating Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: The suburban women are going to like Nicki Haley. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, I don't mean every suburban woman who

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Speaker 1: is listening to this show right now, because every every

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Speaker 1: Susan in America is going to call it, call in

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Speaker 1: right now and tell me that I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about that because they love somebody else. In general,

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Speaker 1: for middle of the road voters, it's hard to demonize

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley on abortion based on the answers that she

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Speaker 1: has given. And by the way, I thought Trump did

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Speaker 1: a really good job handling an abortion question last night too.

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Speaker 1: It was like a five bean an answer. But I

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Speaker 1: think it's very hard to go after Donald Trump on

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Speaker 1: the abortion related issue as well. And I think there

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Speaker 6: Head Welcome back into Clay and Buck. Coming up, we

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Speaker 6: got Steven Miller, former senior advisor of Trump.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk him about the border.

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Speaker 6: He was really the architect in many ways in the

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Speaker 6: Trump White House of the successful border control and immigration policy.

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Speaker 6: So we'll talk about what's going on now, which is

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Speaker 6: the opposite of successful border policies unless you want open borders,

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Speaker 6: which the Democrats do. And we also Speaker of the

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Speaker 6: House Johnson. The Speaker will be in the House or

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Speaker 6: on the air at least with us. I'm going to

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Speaker 6: ask him about this new spending deal. He also was

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Speaker 6: down to the border, but I kind of want to

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Speaker 6: ask him, Hey, is the new speaker different from the

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Speaker 6: old speaker as in Kevin McCarthy. If so, how and why?

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Speaker 6: And I asked that in honesty, I want to know.

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Speaker 6: I want him to explain what's different about what he's

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Speaker 6: doing versus what McCarthy would have done.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he'll have an answer, so we'll dive into that.

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Speaker 6: But Clay, one of the craziest moments from the debate

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Speaker 6: last night, because we're gonna be talking immigration with Steven

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Speaker 6: Miller here in a few minutes, one of the craziest

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Speaker 6: moments was when CNN's Jake Tapper, and to be fair,

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Speaker 6: he cited this too. I think it's usually the census

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Speaker 6: data or whatever, but he said, according to and I

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Speaker 6: forget what I.

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Speaker 2: Think it was census data. Oh peugh. Sorry.

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Speaker 6: According to Pew, there are ten million illegals in the country.

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Speaker 6: Listen this play six.

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Speaker 11: Governor DeSantis. There are more than ten million undocumented immigrants

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Speaker 11: already living in the United States, according to Pew Research.

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Speaker 11: Will any of them be allowed to stay in the

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Speaker 11: United States under your administration?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 6: To be what he said is accurate, right, you got

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Speaker 6: to be. You know, Tapper's very precise. There are more

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Speaker 6: than ten million. But you know that's like saying I'm

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Speaker 6: more than two feet tall, right, Like, yeah, doesn't really

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Speaker 6: get you anywhere here.

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Speaker 2: Ten million.

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Speaker 6: And this is important, Clay, because the census stuff they

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Speaker 6: always look at it's been saying eleven million for like

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Speaker 6: the last decade. There are at least twenty million, probably

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Speaker 6: more like thirty million illegals living in the country, and

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Speaker 6: some very smart people say a whole lot more.

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Speaker 2: We can ask Steven Miller.

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Speaker 6: But I just think even putting that ten million number

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Speaker 6: out there, I know that's the official number.

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Speaker 2: The official number is a lie, everybody. It's a lie.

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Speaker 1: Well, particularly in light of the fact that we know

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Speaker 1: what is it, Over six million have co in just

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Speaker 1: since Biden came into office, So the idea that it

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Speaker 1: would be only ten million is kind of crazy, even

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Speaker 1: in the context of what we know has come in

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Speaker 1: the last sew it's going to be under.

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Speaker 2: Biden, right by himself, Will in Tampa. What you got

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Speaker 2: for us?

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Speaker 7: Hey, love this show, Love the show, Thanks for having

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Speaker 7: me on. So my whole thing about this debates that

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Speaker 7: are going on, right is that how is it that the.

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Speaker 8: Entire media, including radio shows like yourselves and I love

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Speaker 8: you guys, but I'm calling you guys out on this

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Speaker 8: where you don't give the platform if you will or

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Speaker 8: even the talking points of a third candidate, the Vikramaswami,

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Speaker 8: who is absolutely storming Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's in fourth place. Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: I think we've had the BAC on this show more

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Speaker 1: than we have anybody else.

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Speaker 6: I was going to say, we've had that candidate on

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Speaker 6: the air here more in the last six months than

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Speaker 6: any other candidate. So, I mean, facts are facts. Now

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Speaker 6: if we're not talking about him enough in Iowa, as

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Speaker 6: you point out, I mean, he's in fourth place by

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Speaker 6: a mile, So I mean unless.

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Speaker 1: He's Vegas surprize based on every poll this out there,

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Speaker 1: Buck is right, he's in fourth place. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think there many people are saying it's going to be

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Speaker 1: the final race is going to be the Vake versus Trump.

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Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's making that argument. I think the

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Speaker 1: VEC is the next to drop out. I think he's

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Speaker 1: been phenomenal in the campaign so far. But this is

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Speaker 1: a DeSantis versus Nicky Haley as the alternative to Trump,

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Speaker 1: you know race.

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Speaker 6: If you were writing this Game of Throne style and

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Speaker 6: we're on this chapter, I guess you could say, maybe

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Speaker 6: it turns into the vacant RFK Junior team up in

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Speaker 6: the last moment to portray Trump and overthrow the dynasty.

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Speaker 6: But I don't think that's gonna happen.