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Speaker 6: You know, it's not every day, not every postgame, where
Speaker 6: a press conference turns into a bona fide fear commercial.
Speaker 6: And that is why we are gathered here tonight on
Speaker 6: this very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of The Big
Speaker 6: Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. Paul Calvic
Speaker 6: joined by Darren Rban. He was right there front and center.
Speaker 6: Thanks Coach is the title of this edition Cardinals Folktales.
Speaker 6: This is where you can't spell the word history without
Speaker 6: the word story. We go into the Cardinals archives and
Speaker 6: just all time anecdotes. And for you, Darren, when people
Speaker 6: ask you about your more than two decades covering the Cardinals,
Speaker 6: where does Danny Green's famous Monday Night meltdown? Where does
Speaker 6: it rank on your personal power pole?
Speaker 8: I mean in terms of memories, just memorable moments, it's
Speaker 8: probably I would it wouldn't be number one because this
Speaker 8: team did go to the Super Bowl, true, but it
Speaker 8: would probably number two.
Speaker 6: And it was Monday night football, yeah, and it was
Speaker 6: a potential big time win that slowly but surely unraveled.
Speaker 6: You thought the game was a meltdown. Then you got
Speaker 6: to the postgame press conference and there was Danny Green
Speaker 6: addressing the media and we're gonna hear it all for ourselves.
Speaker 6: We're gonna go into the background. What led up to
Speaker 6: that memorable moment? And really it was a week dare
Speaker 6: I say several months in the making, because it went
Speaker 6: back to the preseason in a lot of ways, did
Speaker 6: it not?
Speaker 3: It did? I mean.
Speaker 8: Living through it in real time, and it was something
Speaker 8: that I realized later that the things he was saying
Speaker 8: absolutely came from playing the Bears in the preseason and
Speaker 8: some of the things that happened, so which makes sense
Speaker 8: with what he said. It's funny I go back and
Speaker 8: look at my story and that wasn't even the lead
Speaker 8: quote that I used. I used one of the players
Speaker 8: lead quote talking about how it was a terrible loss,
Speaker 8: and then I talked about it because you know, while
Speaker 8: was huge at the time when it happened, I never
Speaker 8: had an idea that it was going to be as
Speaker 8: huge as it ultimately turned out to be.
Speaker 6: And look, it really has been. I mean, some of
Speaker 6: those sayings from that press conference have lived. I mean
Speaker 6: they're all timers. You know, they are who we thought
Speaker 6: they were, crown them. I mean, those are like all
Speaker 6: time quotes from Dennis Green, who would later literally turn
Speaker 6: it into a beer commercial and he would benefit from that.
Speaker 6: And look, it wasn't the first time that Dennis Green,
Speaker 6: shall we say, got emotional at the mic. I mean
Speaker 6: he was known for being involved all on that way
Speaker 6: a couple weeks earlier. And we're going to get into
Speaker 6: this once we get into Cardinals Folk Tales. There I
Speaker 6: was where he announced the changing quarterback from the veteran
Speaker 6: Kurt Warner to Matt Liner live in our postgame radio interview,
Speaker 6: ripping the microphone out of my hand from behind my
Speaker 6: back away from Matt Lioner, and in declaring him the starter.
Speaker 6: So you never quite knew what you were going to
Speaker 6: get from Denny Green day to day.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 8: I remember one time in training camp that year, right
Speaker 8: before Matt Lioner signed his contract, there was a question
Speaker 8: about player injury. It might have been Carlos Dansby's injury.
Speaker 8: That was the question, how is Carlos Dansby doing or
Speaker 8: something like that, and he turned it into a soliloquy
Speaker 8: about how guys should be signed. And Kurt Warner and
Speaker 8: Tom Brady were going to be playing in the preseason
Speaker 8: that week, and it'd be a shame if Matt Lioner
Speaker 8: wasn't in New England to play in that preseason game
Speaker 8: because he wasn't signed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd do that stuff.
Speaker 6: And you wonder, like, okay, what led up to Danny
Speaker 6: Greens ran. Well, not only was it a blown halftime
Speaker 6: lead where you were shutting out arguably the best team
Speaker 6: in the league in the Chicago Bears, but it was
Speaker 6: how Rex Grossman beat you with a half dozen turnovers
Speaker 6: in that game? It is passer rating at halftime wasn't
Speaker 6: even twenty. He was playing some epically bad football. And
Speaker 6: then the Cardinals, to their own demise, well, they changed
Speaker 6: their philosophy in the second half. In fact, the very
Speaker 6: next day after this, the offensive coordinator lost his job.
Speaker 6: So there was a lot of a lot of aftermath
Speaker 6: from this game. But once again, when it just comes
Speaker 6: down to all time anecdotes and the Monday night meltdown,
Speaker 6: there were enough people in that room who loved telling
Speaker 6: their story and where they were and how they saw
Speaker 6: it unfold. And that's exactly what we're going to hear
Speaker 6: in this addition to Cardinals Folktales. So with no further ado,
Speaker 6: we'll come back and we'll get right into it once again,
Speaker 6: the Emmy Award winning series Cardinals Folktales, which you can
Speaker 6: see on the Cardinals YouTube page. But we're going to
Speaker 6: get back into that next as we continue with this
Speaker 6: very special addition to The Big Red Rage presented by
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Speaker 6: edition of The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 6: and Gilbert on Paul Calvic as we go back through
Speaker 6: Cardinals folktales, in particular the Denny Green Meltdown two thousand
Speaker 6: and six. And if you remember that season, it started
Speaker 6: with a win and then the Cardinals lost four in
Speaker 6: a row, two of those by a combined five points.
Speaker 6: But the bright lights and the big stage were still
Speaker 6: to come on Monday Night football. And you know all
Speaker 6: we talk about sports is the original reality TV. Well,
Speaker 6: how about a game where the Cardinals defense forced the
Speaker 6: opposing quarterback into six turnovers?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 6: A game the Cardinals led twenty to nothing at the half,
Speaker 6: yet it's still wound up with the pounding of the podium.
Speaker 6: And it was well after the game that we learned
Speaker 6: that the Denny Green meltdown might have been as premeditated
Speaker 6: as it was spontaneous. So here on the Big Red Rage,
Speaker 6: presented by Santanford and Gilbert, here we go with an
Speaker 6: encore presentation of Cardinals folk tales. Thanks coach.
Speaker 7: Do you believe this is happening?
Speaker 9: No? I cannot remember Denny ever being that out of sourts.
Speaker 11: It's one of those things that's gonna go down. I mean,
Speaker 11: everyone's gonna remember.
Speaker 12: You know, I mean, we just said, Wait, the Bears
Speaker 12: are what we thought they were.
Speaker 7: I said to my wife on the drive home, what
Speaker 7: the hell did he.
Speaker 5: Mean by that?
Speaker 9: It was going really really well for us.
Speaker 7: Boy, the Cardinals are flying around on defense.
Speaker 2: Until it wasn't hutchdown Chicago.
Speaker 7: Unbelievable.
Speaker 5: There are no words.
Speaker 9: It was deflating. We felt like we had done enough
Speaker 9: to win.
Speaker 5: The meltdown is complete for the.
Speaker 6: Cardinal or was it Because the most memorable meltdown was
Speaker 6: still to come after the.
Speaker 5: Game, coach Dennis Green has got to be absolutely beside himself.
Speaker 6: You could say that. Then again, Danny Green did say
Speaker 6: that a postgame press Courfrence that beer commercials are made up?
Speaker 7: Literally, who do they.
Speaker 4: Think they are?
Speaker 2: They are who we thought they were, They are who
Speaker 2: you thought they were.
Speaker 7: Ran with a life of its own that still has
Speaker 7: legs today.
Speaker 9: Oh I was.
Speaker 11: I was next up on the podium, and I was like,
Speaker 11: oh what am I walking into?
Speaker 12: Woodell takes a third game in a preseason.
Speaker 13: Like his book book, It was beautiful from the beginning
Speaker 13: to the end to the MIC's laugh.
Speaker 2: If you want to crown him, you crowned her ass.
Speaker 9: It was a thing of beauty.
Speaker 14: It started before you all even saw it though, Like
Speaker 14: it started off in the locker room.
Speaker 15: Because when my ass gets in there, I'm gonna go eight,
Speaker 15: and I was like, whoa what?
Speaker 6: It was an oh what the moment to be sure.
Speaker 6: Welcome into Cardinals Folk Tales, Thanks Coach, presented by Seki,
Speaker 6: where we go in depth into Cardinals history all time
Speaker 6: anecdotes through the recollections and memories of those who lived
Speaker 6: it or in my case, those who covered it.
Speaker 7: My name is Paul Calvic, Cardinal's sideline reporter.
Speaker 6: It was October two thousand and six, Monday Night football
Speaker 6: where the Cardinals led the undefeated Bears Swanny to nothing
Speaker 6: at the half. You had, Coach Green had good reason
Speaker 6: to be angry, frustrated, exasperated Mount Saint Denny.
Speaker 9: I'm telling you, when that clock went triple zero, something
Speaker 9: snapped in Denny, and I don't think he ever recovered.
Speaker 4: He did it in a special way that only dentist
Speaker 4: screen could do it.
Speaker 2: But they are who we thought they were, and we
Speaker 2: let about the hook.
Speaker 3: Thanks Coach.
Speaker 6: Now, before we get to the pounding of the podium,
Speaker 6: it's important to understand the stage and the stakes. Two
Speaker 6: thousand and six was the debut season for University of
Speaker 6: Phoenix Stadium state of the art. In fact, the roof
Speaker 6: was open and the lights were bright for the building's
Speaker 6: first regular season game in primetime, and the cameras loved themselves.
Speaker 9: Some.
Speaker 6: Matt Liner, the Cardinals rookie quarterback, transcended sports. Heck, he
Speaker 6: made People Magazine's one hundred most Beautiful list, and as
Speaker 6: host of Matt Liner's weekly radio show, I used to
Speaker 6: marvel at how USC fans would make the drive to
Speaker 6: Phoenix just to hang out in the sports bar for
Speaker 6: a one hour radio show. And the star QB brought
Speaker 6: out the stars as well. Here's Darren Urban from Azcardinals
Speaker 6: dot Com.
Speaker 8: Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore were at the game on
Speaker 8: the sideline before the game.
Speaker 5: Matt how excited he is Monday night flight. You might
Speaker 5: be excited too, though, if you had Ashton Coocher at
Speaker 5: Demi Moore cheered for you, David might be fired out.
Speaker 5: That's kind of cool, you know, yeah, yeah, Demie, I
Speaker 5: had done.
Speaker 8: Charles Barkley showed up and he ended up making a
Speaker 8: appearance in the booth during Monday Night Football, and there
Speaker 8: was just there was a vibe to it.
Speaker 3: Everything involved just seemed like a height level.
Speaker 8: People were thinking Matt Liner was going to be the
Speaker 8: next great quarterback. There was just so much involved.
Speaker 10: It was the first round draft pick, Matt Lionert, who
Speaker 10: was making a second star up now on national TV
Speaker 10: against a very formidable and vaunted Chicago defense.
Speaker 12: So yeah, it was.
Speaker 10: There was a lot on display, a lot of unique
Speaker 10: variables that went into that game.
Speaker 6: That's Cardinal's VP of media relations, Mark Dalton, and he's right.
Speaker 6: All the pregame talk all week was all about the
Speaker 6: five and zero Bears.
Speaker 4: The Chicago Bears are going to the super Bowl. It's
Speaker 4: the best defense in the NFL in the history of
Speaker 4: this league.
Speaker 7: Oh wait, it's Week six.
Speaker 4: Nope, But if you talk to everybody associated with the NFL,
Speaker 4: including ESPN's Joe Thaisman, the Chicago Bears are on their
Speaker 4: way to the super Bowl.
Speaker 6: That's voice of the Cardinals Dave Pass, who certainly was
Speaker 6: not ready to crown the Bears. Not in Week six.
Speaker 6: Neither was Cardinals Pro Bowl pass rusher Bertrand Barry, who
Speaker 6: wanted the world to know that the az played some DP.
Speaker 9: Everybody was talking about how this is going to be
Speaker 9: a non competitive Monday night football game, and we took
Speaker 9: that to heart. And I know from a defense this perspective,
Speaker 9: we wanted to go out and show that Chicago Bears
Speaker 9: had a really good defense, but we were no slouds,
Speaker 9: which is either and we felt like this is our
Speaker 9: opportunity to make a big statement.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you really can't understand the postgame or the game
Speaker 10: without broadening the lens a little bit to the season
Speaker 10: and the preseason as a whole. The backstory is we
Speaker 10: played Chicago in Chicago in the third preseason game and
Speaker 10: the Ones versus Ones held our own and outplayed the
Speaker 10: Bears first team.
Speaker 8: That was in the back of Denny's mind the whole
Speaker 8: time coming up into that game.
Speaker 3: And then we got.
Speaker 8: Lovey Smith on our conference call that week and Lovey
Speaker 8: Smith said.
Speaker 3: It was a glorified practice.
Speaker 9: We haven't really played them yet.
Speaker 16: They were able to have some success against us back then,
Speaker 16: but it's a totally different mindset.
Speaker 9: The preseason games are important.
Speaker 7: They're glorified practices to me.
Speaker 8: And I think that got under Denny's skin a little bit.
Speaker 10: I think that's important to know and to understand that.
Speaker 10: Denny was probably a little disappointed when Coach Smith said, Yeah,
Speaker 10: that preseason game didn't mean as much to us as
Speaker 10: it seemingly did to you.
Speaker 6: The game started, and it started well. Matt Lioner had
Speaker 6: two touchdown passes in the first quarter. Cardinals beat writer
Speaker 6: Ken Summers covered the game for the Arizona Republic.
Speaker 13: The Cardinals dominated them in the first half. I mean dominant.
Speaker 13: Matt Lionert was so sharp, and you could tell the
Speaker 13: Cardinals had a game plan that put the Bears on
Speaker 13: their heels. I mean, Whinert was hitting short passes everywhere,
Speaker 13: and they were moving the ball, and the Bears, you know,
Speaker 13: Rex Grossman was turning the ball over all the time,
Speaker 13: and I thought they're going to win this game, you know,
Speaker 13: and I think everybody did at halftime. That's how good
Speaker 13: they were in the first half and how bad the
Speaker 13: Bears were.
Speaker 8: The Cardinals defense, you had a young Garnell dock At,
Speaker 8: a young Carlos Stansby a young entre role. You had
Speaker 8: Bertram Barry playing really well. You had Adrian Wilson in
Speaker 8: the prime of his career. It was a pretty good
Speaker 8: defense that was starting to find its way, and they
Speaker 8: just made the Bears offense like a disaster.
Speaker 9: They had Rex Grossman at quarterback, and Rex wasn't the
Speaker 9: most talented quarterback. He didn't have the best arm, he
Speaker 9: didn't make the best decisions. So we felt like we
Speaker 9: could get a few balls from him, like he would
Speaker 9: throw us a few and maybe we could get some
Speaker 9: turnovers and go for the ball because he was a
Speaker 9: guy that was pretty loose with the ball. He had
Speaker 9: really small hands.
Speaker 7: Play fake. Grossman steps up hitting the balls out.
Speaker 4: He got sacked, but the ball was loose at the
Speaker 4: thirty two yard line. It was bertrand Barry that came
Speaker 4: around against his first sack of the year and a
Speaker 4: forced fumble.
Speaker 7: Again, there's still wrestling for it.
Speaker 2: It's cardinal ball.
Speaker 7: Berry comes up with a fumble recovery as well. He
Speaker 7: did it all on that plot.
Speaker 9: We felt like if we could get him the turn
Speaker 9: the ball over more than what he had, that we
Speaker 9: could as an offense score enough points in order to
Speaker 9: get that went home. And it almost worked.
Speaker 6: Almost as mentioned. The defense did its part. Rex Grossman
Speaker 6: finished with six turnovers, four picks, two lost fumbles, his
Speaker 6: passer rating halftime seventeen point two. In fact, it was
Speaker 6: twenty to nothing. Cardinals getting ready for the second half
Speaker 6: and Dave Pash was still uneasy.
Speaker 4: When the Cardinals were up. Fig Yeah, we were surprised,
Speaker 4: but I think just because we had been snake bitten before.
Speaker 4: I think there was a little concern, like you got
Speaker 4: another half and then it all started to unravel.
Speaker 8: Denny kind of got a little cautious, didn't want Matt
Speaker 8: Leonard making any any mistakes. They started handing the ball
Speaker 8: off to Edrin James time after time after time, and
Speaker 8: he wasn't going anywhere. He ended up with fifty five
Speaker 8: yards on thirty six carries.
Speaker 9: That was ridiculous.
Speaker 6: That's one point five yards per carry, and it was
Speaker 6: Carrie after Carrie thirty six times. Edrin James ran the
Speaker 6: ball and got nowhere. And it was by design a
Speaker 6: halftime adjustment to make darn sure the rookie QB didn't
Speaker 6: throw the game away literally once again, Ken Summers.
Speaker 13: I think Denny Green went offensive coordinator Keith Rowing and
Speaker 13: said back off, run the ball, run, drain the clock,
Speaker 13: and that's what they did. Brian Urlacker finished with like
Speaker 13: one hundred and nineteen tackles in that game. He hit
Speaker 13: Edgrin James so often it was an unbelieve I've never
Speaker 13: seen one player hit another player so often in any.
Speaker 5: Game they ought to name Erlacker Skycamp because he's everywhere.
Speaker 5: He is, making plays sideline to sideline.
Speaker 13: Even though the Cardinals got conservative and stunk, the Bear
Speaker 13: still had to have four things go exactly right for
Speaker 13: him to win that game.
Speaker 6: Commencing countdown to meltdown, ignition to implosion. In three two one.
Speaker 4: High formation behind the line of three step drop, here
Speaker 4: comes Anderson of the balls babble that's loose on the
Speaker 4: far side of the Bears. Mike Brown picks it up
Speaker 4: and he walks in for a Chicago touchdown, and the
Speaker 4: Bears have new life with two seconds to go in
Speaker 4: the third quarter.
Speaker 5: The one thing they can't do is turned the ball
Speaker 5: over in that situation, and that's exactly what happens. Given
Speaker 5: the Bears life.
Speaker 4: Wolf gives me grief all the time that somehow I'm
Speaker 4: the human Jinks for the Cardinals. He calls it the
Speaker 4: pash factor. I say something and the next play the
Speaker 4: opposite happens. Well, he did it to Edrin Edrin James.
Speaker 4: Thank goodness, he's not a fumbler. Very next play fumbler.
Speaker 5: The Cardinals really protecting the football right now, And that's
Speaker 5: the great thing about having edgrin James too. The guy's
Speaker 5: not a fumbler, David. He doesn't put it on the
Speaker 5: ground very often.
Speaker 4: Five twenty five to go on the fort twenty three
Speaker 4: to ten Arizona, they're out of the eye with James,
Speaker 4: the deep man. He gets it off the right side,
Speaker 4: cut it back to the left, and he gets stuck
Speaker 4: right in the legs at the forty one yard line and.
Speaker 7: The ball's loose.
Speaker 4: It's fumbled and picked up by the Bears farside Tilmot
Speaker 4: at the twenty to ten to five touchdown Chicago.
Speaker 5: Did I just say that, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 4: A thirty six yard bumb I'm recovery for the touchdown
Speaker 4: by the Chicago Bears, and with five minutes to go
Speaker 4: there within one touchdown.
Speaker 6: Another unforgettable, regrettable moment. Forget the pash factor, the wolf factor.
Speaker 6: Jing seemingly spoke the fumble into existence. But wait, there's more. Now,
Speaker 6: time for the Bears special teams to score.
Speaker 4: Devin Hester. When Devin Hester caught the puntword I'll never forget.
Speaker 4: As soon as he caught the ball on the return,
Speaker 4: like he made one move in it. You saw it
Speaker 4: Hestro waits for it at the eighteenyard line, backs up,
Speaker 4: and I runs right into the twenty twenty five log
Speaker 4: out thirty near side, forty at midfield forty five, forty
Speaker 4: with a kicker to be thirty twenty fifteen to ten
Speaker 4: five touchdown, Chicago and.
Speaker 7: The Bears unbelievably have tied this football game. You gotta
Speaker 7: be kidding me. No way, no way, unbelievable.
Speaker 5: There are no works. The meltdown is complete for the
Speaker 5: Cardinals offensively and in transition.
Speaker 9: Hunting the ball straight to Devin Hester. That that wasn't
Speaker 9: the best idea. So it just it was deflating. It
Speaker 9: really was, because we felt like we had done enough
Speaker 9: to win, and to see him return that punt for
Speaker 9: a touchdown, it just it took a lot to win
Speaker 9: out of ourselves.
Speaker 6: But as devastating as that may have been, rookie Devin
Speaker 6: Hester with his second career return for touchdown, the Cardinals
Speaker 6: still had two fifty eight left down twenty four to
Speaker 6: twenty three, with one last chance at redemption.
Speaker 8: What everybody forgets is that they fell behind after the
Speaker 8: partner turn by Devin Hester and Matt Lioner played like
Speaker 8: the quarterback of the future came on the field. He
Speaker 8: led them down the field into field goal range for
Speaker 8: a game winning field goal through forty yards that's completely doable,
Speaker 8: and then Neil Rackers blows it.
Speaker 4: The snap's good, balls down, Rackers kick is up, but
Speaker 4: has the lack.
Speaker 7: Rackers kick is no good.
Speaker 4: Rackers fucked it and he just missed it to the
Speaker 4: laft and the Bears takeover, leading by one.
Speaker 7: Unbelievable. Never ever seen anything like it.
Speaker 12: We don't make it.
Speaker 10: Had we made it, history would judge the next half
Speaker 10: hour forty five minutes much differently than than it does now.
Speaker 6: And as the Cardinals VP of Media Relations, Mark Dalton
Speaker 6: there hinted, the drama did not end with the end
Speaker 6: of the game. The most memorable moments were still to come.
Speaker 6: And when we come back, we'll learn how Denny Green's
Speaker 6: meltdown came to be, including what was the question that
Speaker 6: lit the fuse? And did the question even matter? What
Speaker 6: did Denny Green say right before and after the rant
Speaker 6: That actually explains a lot in hindsight, not to mention
Speaker 6: how Denny eventually embraced and even monetized that moment. As
Speaker 6: we continue with this special Cardinals Folktales, edition of The
Speaker 6: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We
Speaker 6: are santan Ford and welcome back everyone into The Big
Speaker 6: Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert on Paul Calvic. Tonight,
Speaker 6: a special Cardinals Folktales edition. This is where we say, look,
Speaker 6: you can't spell the word history without the word story,
Speaker 6: and we have documented memorable moments all time in Cardinal's history,
Speaker 6: and tonight we're focusing on Denny Green's Monday Night meltdown
Speaker 6: circa two thousand and six that, as we know, will
Speaker 6: live on forever as an all time rant. And we're
Speaker 6: going to pick up here where we left off. Denny
Speaker 6: Green about to meet the media after the Cardinals blue
Speaker 6: that waning to nothing halftime lead against the Bears, eventually
Speaker 6: losing twenty four to twenty three about as excruciating as
Speaker 6: it gets. Two words. In fact, Brew toull believe me.
Speaker 6: I was a sideline reporter for that game. I did
Speaker 6: the coach Green radio interview after the game, after the rant,
Speaker 6: which we'll get to. But what about right before the meltdown,
Speaker 6: Right before the media session. We're gonna hear from Beat
Speaker 6: writers Darren Rban and Ken Summers and Cardinals VP of
Speaker 6: Media Relations, Mark Dalton, as we continue with our encore
Speaker 6: presentation of Cardinals' Folktales.
Speaker 7: Thanks coach.
Speaker 5: Coach Dennis Green has got to be absolutely beside himself.
Speaker 6: So your team just lost in gut wrenching fashion, a
Speaker 6: Shakespearean tragedy on national TV. You're the VP of media relations?
Speaker 6: What do you do? What do you say to your
Speaker 6: head coach.
Speaker 9: Denny A Ton.
Speaker 10: I mean, he's he's a professional, he's he's he knows
Speaker 10: what he's got to do. And but no, there was
Speaker 10: no harbinger of overwhelming sentiment that was any different than
Speaker 10: you would have expected in that situation. So yeah, we
Speaker 10: made our way to the interview room and proceeded to
Speaker 10: address the media.
Speaker 8: I was literally in the first row right in front
Speaker 8: of the podium. I mean I was bracing myself because
Speaker 8: I'm thinking, here's a guy who's going to give us
Speaker 8: two word answers.
Speaker 3: He's going to be super ticked off. And he wasn't.
Speaker 8: He came out and people started asking questions about hard stuff,
Speaker 8: and he answered like it was any other game. And
Speaker 8: then came the question and things changed.
Speaker 17: Four picks against Grossman and two fumbles what do you
Speaker 17: see about the Bears would shut him down that way?
Speaker 9: Now, you know?
Speaker 12: I mean, we just wait, the Bears are what we
Speaker 12: thought they were, what we thought they were.
Speaker 13: The question was nothing about that. It was Mark freelancer
Speaker 13: asking him about Rex Grosswinth's turnovers. It's like, that's what
Speaker 13: I remember. It's like, what questions set him off? And
Speaker 13: it was typical Denny. It's like, yeah, it had nothing
Speaker 13: to do with That's not what set him off. He
Speaker 13: had what he was going to say, and it was
Speaker 13: coming out.
Speaker 12: By god, we played him in preseason.
Speaker 18: Who the hell takes a third game in a preseason
Speaker 18: like us both book, We played him a third game.
Speaker 18: Everybody played three quarters the Bears or who we thought
Speaker 18: they were.
Speaker 16: That's why we took the damn field. Now, if you
Speaker 16: want to crown him, then crown their ass. But they
Speaker 16: are who we thought they were, and we let him
Speaker 16: out the hook.
Speaker 6: And again, the media member who set him off was
Speaker 6: freelance writer Mark Brown, who that evening was writing for
Speaker 6: the Chicago Sun Times.
Speaker 17: In this particular case, I was surprised by Dennis's response
Speaker 17: because coaches are normally much more professional and much more
Speaker 17: subdued in answering questions, but his comments were toward the
Speaker 17: nature of the game itself and not directed to me,
Speaker 17: who asked the question, or any other of the media
Speaker 17: representatives who were in the room that day. It was
Speaker 17: just inventing and just a level of frustration that he
Speaker 17: probably felt that he had to exhibit at a certain time,
Speaker 17: and it was delivered to the moment, and it wasn't
Speaker 17: delivered specifically to an individual.
Speaker 10: It's interesting the way it started was fairly calm, and
Speaker 10: when it was over, it was over.
Speaker 3: It was just that.
Speaker 10: Minute and a half in between that it was not.
Speaker 13: What was interesting to me about that whole moment is
Speaker 13: if you covered that team. His rant made sense because
Speaker 13: they had played the Bears in the third preseason game.
Speaker 13: The Cardinals had played their starters into the third quarter,
Speaker 13: The Cardinals had played well against the Bears.
Speaker 9: They were very confident.
Speaker 13: That's where the whole The Bears are who we thought
Speaker 13: they were, you know, we let them off the hook.
Speaker 12: We played them in preseason.
Speaker 18: Who the hell takes a third game in a preseason
Speaker 18: like us.
Speaker 13: The rare use of both back to back was just
Speaker 13: you don't see that in a press conference very often.
Speaker 10: Frankly the way the game was trending for three quarters
Speaker 10: was bearing out what Denny was preaching, which was, hey,
Speaker 10: don't let don't listen to anybody else. You're every bit
Speaker 10: the equal to this Chicago Bears team even another five
Speaker 10: and zero, And for three quarters he was one hundred
Speaker 10: percent right and should have been standing in that podium
Speaker 10: with great pride. And I think that is probably all
Speaker 10: the things happening with him and what led to what
Speaker 10: it led to.
Speaker 2: The Bears or who we thought they were.
Speaker 16: That's why we took the damn field.
Speaker 2: Now, if you want to crown them, they crown your ass.
Speaker 17: You know.
Speaker 10: You decide, all right, I better get in there and
Speaker 10: cut this off so we don't have another question and
Speaker 10: keep this going. And there's different ways you can do that, right,
Speaker 10: So one of the ones is to just okay, I'll
Speaker 10: interject and thank the coach for his time. As I
Speaker 10: think back, we probably weren't going to get another question
Speaker 10: because he's looking around the room. There are a lot
Speaker 10: of jaws on the floor and people were like okay,
Speaker 10: So as you read the room, I thought it would
Speaker 10: be appropriate, in hindsight, perhaps not to just pay nothing
Speaker 10: to see here. We're moving on with the rest of
Speaker 10: our program. Here, thank you, Coach Green.
Speaker 2: They are who we thought they were and we're not
Speaker 2: about the hook.
Speaker 3: Thanks coach.
Speaker 9: H.
Speaker 10: Yeah, that that did generate a little bit of attention.
Speaker 13: It was beautiful, from the beginning to the end, to
Speaker 13: the Mike's lap to Mark Dalton coming in and breaking
Speaker 13: it up.
Speaker 9: It was a thing of beauty. When I close my
Speaker 9: eyes and I think about it, I always think of
Speaker 9: Mark Dalton because Mark was the one that had to
Speaker 9: say thank you, Denny, and you know, at that point,
Speaker 9: I think Mark was literally afraid to say anything, and
Speaker 9: you know, Denny heard him, and he just walked off
Speaker 9: and he walked straight to Paul Calvac and Paul had
Speaker 9: to interview him right after that. Not having a clue
Speaker 9: what happened.
Speaker 4: We were waiting, as we normally do for the postgame
Speaker 4: interview with Paul, so we're waiting for Denny and we
Speaker 4: see on the jumbo tron Denny hit the microphone say
Speaker 4: what he said, and Jim Omhundra, the producer, gets in
Speaker 4: Paul's ear and goes, Paul, here comes coach, and he's pissed.
Speaker 4: And then I think Denny said the exact same thing
Speaker 4: to Paul the whole third preseason game. They are who
Speaker 4: we thought they were.
Speaker 6: So the last question, head coach Dennis Screen, what do
Speaker 6: you think will stick with your moss from this one?
Speaker 12: I just think that we, you know, the Bears are
Speaker 12: what we thought they were.
Speaker 18: We played in the third preseason the game they played
Speaker 18: their first team for three quarters, We played ours for
Speaker 18: first three quarters. They are what we thought they were.
Speaker 18: If you want to make them more than that, everybody can.
Speaker 18: The Bears are exactly like we thought they were.
Speaker 6: And if they're the consensus number one coach, was it
Speaker 6: say about the potential of the.
Speaker 12: Cardinals number ones at the end of the year.
Speaker 6: Not Now there you go, head coach Dennis Screen, Guys,
Speaker 6: we will throw it back to you.
Speaker 4: Thanks a lot. Paul and Dennis Screen obviously fired up.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, that before Paul with him,
Speaker 4: he had his press conference which was played here in
Speaker 4: the stadium, and well, let's put it this way, he
Speaker 4: was a lot more calm with Paul than he was
Speaker 4: with the media, as he was very upset visibly.
Speaker 6: What I always tell people is that if you remember,
Speaker 6: when Dennis Green exits the press conference room, he goes
Speaker 6: through that door right well, on the other side of
Speaker 6: that door was yours, Truant, totally unaware I was of
Speaker 6: what had just gone down, what was about to go viral.
Speaker 6: In fact, the wheels were already in motion.
Speaker 10: Press conference ended and I walked into the locker room
Speaker 10: where another member of our staff, Chris Melvin was was
Speaker 10: and he said, as he always does. You know, Hey,
Speaker 10: how was coach? And I pause and I thought, I'm
Speaker 10: not sure how to succinctly describe it, and he goes,
Speaker 10: what do you mean. I'm like, I think you'll you'll
Speaker 10: see it soon enough, and as it turns out, often enough.
Speaker 8: The immediate aftermath was you know, all over the place.
Speaker 8: I mean, ESPN was playing it like every six seconds.
Speaker 13: I felt like that night, you know today that those moments,
Speaker 13: you know, as soon as they happened, it's like going
Speaker 13: to be iconic. But even back then, I just knew,
Speaker 13: you know, they had those famous Coors Light commercials back
Speaker 13: then where they took real moments in history, the Jim
Speaker 13: Moore playoffs and those things, and I remember thinking, Denny
Speaker 13: just got himself a Coors like commercial.
Speaker 8: Hey, Coach, those guys just took off with all your
Speaker 8: cold refreshing cors like, who do they think they are?
Speaker 2: They are who we thought they were.
Speaker 9: They are who you thought they were? Well, who do
Speaker 9: you think they were?
Speaker 2: They are who we thought they were? Okay, well if
Speaker 2: you knew who they were, why didn't you stop them?
Speaker 2: But get about the hook.
Speaker 4: I think there's some people that felt that that was
Speaker 4: a little staged, like it was coming the whole. They
Speaker 4: are who we thought they were. But who cares? Right,
Speaker 4: it didn't have to be completely off the cuff. So
Speaker 4: what if he thought about it a little bit before
Speaker 4: he went in there? I mean, that's what Hollywood's all about.
Speaker 4: You know, Denny could have made it in Hollywood.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Dave pat is onto something there, because, as we
Speaker 6: learn years later, Dennis Green had a post game plan.
Speaker 6: In fact, we'll hear from Gabe Watson and Matt Lioner,
Speaker 6: But first, here's bertrand Barry taking us back inside that
Speaker 6: Monday night locker room where coach Green called his shot.
Speaker 9: His shirt was untucked, he didn't have a hat on,
Speaker 9: and those were two things that you never saw with Denny.
Speaker 9: You never saw him without a hat and you never
Speaker 9: saw his shirt untucked. And he was kicking this Green
Speaker 9: Gatorade cup, you know those green Gatorade paper cups. He
Speaker 9: just was kicking this one, you know, on the ground.
Speaker 9: Wasn't saying anything. It was just it was early quiet,
Speaker 9: like I'll never forget it. And I can't even repeat
Speaker 9: all the things that he said, but the basic crux
Speaker 9: of the matter was he said, I don't want anybody
Speaker 9: saying anything to the media because when I get in there,
Speaker 9: I'm going off. He didn't see it quite like that,
Speaker 9: but you can kind of guess how colorful it got.
Speaker 19: Came there, heated, and the first thing he said was,
Speaker 19: I don't want anyone saying anything to the media because
Speaker 19: when Mike, I can't say the next word going there,
Speaker 19: I'm gonna go eight.
Speaker 9: You can't say the next word. Yeah, so you called it.
Speaker 6: He said he was gonna go off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a little pre premeditated.
Speaker 9: I can't quite get up that high.
Speaker 17: Men.
Speaker 15: I don't want anybody saying anything to the media when
Speaker 15: I get in there, because when my ass gets in there.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go eight.
Speaker 9: And I was like, oh what. It just was the
Speaker 9: weirdest thing that I could ever remember. I cannot remember
Speaker 9: Denny ever being that out of sorts, like it just
Speaker 9: something snapped. I'm telling you, when that clock went triple zero,
Speaker 9: something snapped in Dinny and I don't think he ever recovered.
Speaker 6: Everybody remembers where they were when it went down when
Speaker 6: Danny Green went off, you were where Oh I was.
Speaker 11: I was next up on the podium, so I remember,
Speaker 11: I was just kind of standing there. I actually caught
Speaker 11: the tail end of it and then uh. And then
Speaker 11: Mark comes up and says, okay, next to up Matt
Speaker 11: Lioner and I and I was like, oh, Mike, what
Speaker 11: am I walking into?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 9: And I was.
Speaker 11: I was upset obviously the loss too. But I mean
Speaker 11: it's it's one of those one of those things that's
Speaker 11: gonna go down in history, is I mean, everyone's gonna remember.
Speaker 11: You know, there's there's more Coach Mora playoffs.
Speaker 2: Don't talk about playoffs.
Speaker 11: Oklahoma State coach.
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. There's a Denny, the Bears
Speaker 2: or who we thought they were.
Speaker 11: There's a handful of guys you know that are forever
Speaker 11: gonna be a go down in history as some of
Speaker 11: the best one liners. I guess, you know, so to speak.
Speaker 6: Come on, give me a few lines. What do you
Speaker 6: remember from and how to go?
Speaker 3: They are who we thought they were. He lesn't about
Speaker 3: the hook.
Speaker 14: Players would joke about it in the locker room. I
Speaker 14: was one of the guys joke about and sometimes I'll say,
Speaker 14: you know, do the voice and whatever to the media.
Speaker 6: Give us a dramatic reenactment, if you will.
Speaker 2: They were who we thought they were and we let
Speaker 2: them out the hook.
Speaker 14: Players like, man, what are you doing? And I'm like,
Speaker 14: what's wrong? I'm just me and me, you know, I'm
Speaker 14: a clown.
Speaker 9: Sometimes, you know, they were without they were they were
Speaker 9: we thought they were. I mean, you know, and that's
Speaker 9: how we took the dawn field. And if they want
Speaker 9: to crown them and crown they're at they were we
Speaker 9: thought they were, and we lot them off the hook.
Speaker 3: The Bears who who we thought they were.
Speaker 9: They were who we thought they were.
Speaker 4: The Bears are who we thought they were, and we
Speaker 4: let them off the hook. You want to crown them
Speaker 4: crownham to.
Speaker 7: Watch the third preseason game.
Speaker 4: In the third preseason game during that to a regular
Speaker 4: season game, Oh my goodness.
Speaker 9: It wasn't funny.
Speaker 14: After the loss after a few years being removed and
Speaker 14: like seeing this commercial pop up and it's you know,
Speaker 14: the same deal, and it's like, man, it's hilarious. You
Speaker 14: know you can like laugh and joke with guy's a body.
Speaker 6: And the impersonations definitely weren't limited to the Cardinals locker room.
Speaker 6: On Fox NFL Sunday, for instance, Hall of famers Terry
Speaker 6: Bradshaw and Jimmy Johnson channeled their inner Denny.
Speaker 14: And the Cardinals recover from a lost like, well, I
Speaker 14: think they can't.
Speaker 2: I'll share it. I think they can't. You truly are
Speaker 2: who we think we are. You just cry all you.
Speaker 1: Can do it, Jimmy Crowlem crowd you have, I don't care.
Speaker 6: I don't think they can a couple of shut up.
Speaker 2: They got a good quarterback, all right now.
Speaker 6: Not even a year later, even the Cardinals' next head
Speaker 6: coach waited for the perfect opportunity to drop his own
Speaker 6: Denny inspired quote. Here's Ken wizinon cracking himself up.
Speaker 20: I mean, I think a lot of people outside of
Speaker 20: the team or outside maybe at this conference, don't really
Speaker 20: know a lot about An Kwan. But when you study
Speaker 20: him on tape and you and you see him, it's
Speaker 20: pretty apparent that he's a good football player. So he
Speaker 20: is what we thought he was.
Speaker 21: I couldn't decide whether I could go with that.
Speaker 9: That was that was great. I've been I've been waiting
Speaker 9: for so long for that.
Speaker 6: Okay, honestly, that's probably the most or at least the
Speaker 6: hardest we ever heard. Ken wizen On laugh as the
Speaker 6: Cardinals head coach from two thousand and seven to twenty twelve,
Speaker 6: because no doubt, Dennis Green was a tough act to follow.
Speaker 6: In more ways than one.
Speaker 13: Every day was an adventure. You never knew what you
Speaker 13: were going to get. I always felt like sometimes I
Speaker 13: needed a Danny Green interpreter. You felt like you were
Speaker 13: covering maybe one of the last true characters in the NFL.
Speaker 6: And in some ways maybe we should have seen the
Speaker 6: Monday night meltdown coming because, for example, on his radio
Speaker 6: show one week, we asked about the old line, and
Speaker 6: oh boy, did we get an answer. I know during
Speaker 6: training camp some of the offensive line incited, you know,
Speaker 6: just the constant media discussion of the offensive line, you know,
Speaker 6: as the weak link, and just saying, oh, they need to.
Speaker 18: Click lineus so much. Those half those guys are making
Speaker 18: over three million dollars a year. They need to just
Speaker 18: get off their butts and start doing a job. You
Speaker 18: know what, I don't like to feel sorry for guys.
Speaker 18: There's no room for cry babies, no no room for
Speaker 18: soft side. When you're offensive lineman, you're getting paid big money,
Speaker 18: then do your job. You can go watch Mason High
Speaker 18: School play and you can tell if the linemen are
Speaker 18: doing their job.
Speaker 16: I'm not.
Speaker 18: A seventy five year old woman in the stands can
Speaker 18: tell if you're doing a job. I'm not because what
Speaker 18: happens is the guy got blocked or he didn't.
Speaker 6: All right, that was a doozy. And then a couple
Speaker 6: of weeks before the Monday Night meltdown in Atlanta, after
Speaker 6: coach Green had pulled starting quarterback Kurt Warner for rookie
Speaker 6: Matt Liner, we had one last question in the locker
Speaker 6: room for Liner when Coach Green blitzed us from behind
Speaker 6: and answered in person, what do you know about the
Speaker 6: quarterback situation going forward?
Speaker 9: Now?
Speaker 11: Oh, I don't know anything. I'm just gonna be ready
Speaker 11: to play whenever.
Speaker 12: I came Matti start next week match done.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a real time. Alrighty then moment for sure,
Speaker 6: But for all we heard Danny Green had an eye
Speaker 6: for talent his two thousand and four draft class, Larry Fitzgerald,
Speaker 6: Carlos Dawn, Darnell Dockett in the first three rounds in
Speaker 6: all timer. In fact, Denny's players formed the backbone of
Speaker 6: that two thousand and eight Super Bowl team. Former third
Speaker 6: round pick Darnell Dockett will always remember the man who
Speaker 6: saw what Dockett could become, maybe even before he did.
Speaker 14: Everybody will always remember him because of the they were
Speaker 14: who we thought they were.
Speaker 3: Everybody will be forever him.
Speaker 14: But the thing that stands out to me was I
Speaker 14: brought you here not to be a backup.
Speaker 9: I brought you here to be a starter.
Speaker 14: Now get out Dan and work like thata'sh my speech
Speaker 14: from Dad day on, I never look back.
Speaker 6: And that's our look back at Dennis Green and who
Speaker 6: we thought he was in that very memorable moment. We
Speaker 6: hope you enjoyed. Cardinals Folk Tales Thanks Coach, presented by
Speaker 6: Seki for producer Jim A.
Speaker 9: Mahundro.
Speaker 6: I'm Paul calvic As we leave you with a final
Speaker 6: word from Cardinals VP Mark Dalton, who spent as much
Speaker 6: time as anyone with Dennis Green.
Speaker 10: Sadly, Danny passed away in sixteen and a number of
Speaker 10: us went to San Diego to his funeral service, and
Speaker 10: the program of the funeral service was really well done,
Speaker 10: and like many had, had his picture on the front
Speaker 10: and the program and the songs and the scripture ratings,
Speaker 10: but on the back page of the program it had
Speaker 10: famous Denny Green quotations, and I think there were eight
Speaker 10: to ten, but the very first one in the program
Speaker 10: at his funeral was, they are who we thought they were?
Speaker 7: And how about that?
Speaker 6: A look back at Denny Green's memorable meltdown Cardinals Folktales
Speaker 6: Thanks coach and bora head coach who won a one
Speaker 6: hundred and thirteen regular season games in his career plus
Speaker 6: four playoff games. H'd zoom out here. Even Denny Green
Speaker 6: knew that's what he'd be remembered for. In fact, his
Speaker 6: reports said late he tried unsuccessfully to trademark that phrase,
Speaker 6: Danny Green. Now when we come back, we'll bring back
Speaker 6: Darren Urban on how that moment that ran has lived
Speaker 6: on and still resonates today in football, in the locker room,
Speaker 6: in pop culture.
Speaker 7: That is next.
Speaker 6: This is a special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big
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Speaker 6: Rage Presentavius San tan Ford in Gilbert. Thanks coaches. The title.
Speaker 6: The coach was Dennis Green. The year was two thousand
Speaker 6: and six. It was the Monday Night meltdown. Darren urban
Speaker 6: is with us Paul Kelvis here. Darren was in the
Speaker 6: press conference room. I was behind the door that was
Speaker 6: Denny's next stop. I actually did not see that moment
Speaker 6: until I got home, and then you couldn't stop seeing it.
Speaker 6: As our jim O Mahundro said, it went viral without
Speaker 6: social media. This was the infancy of social media. Darren.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine a moment like that today and how
Speaker 6: it would be splashed all over Twitter and beyond instantly
Speaker 6: it would go viral.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's no question about it.
Speaker 8: Some of the things that we've seen, as big as
Speaker 8: it turned out to be, it would have been just epic,
Speaker 8: truly truly epic on social media.
Speaker 6: Just being in that room. Take us back into that room.
Speaker 6: I mean, was there disbelief when it was unfolding and
Speaker 6: he's pounding the podium literally? What would you think was
Speaker 6: the reaction of most of the media members in there.
Speaker 8: I mean, I just think ultimately you're I mean, these
Speaker 8: things happen in press conferences. Again, one of the things
Speaker 8: people forget about is the fact that he had answered
Speaker 8: a bunch of questions. It's not like this was the
Speaker 8: first thing that was and he'd answered a lot of
Speaker 8: them pretty normally, so you definitely weren't expecting that. You
Speaker 8: were probably near the end of the press conference anyways,
Speaker 8: but there was definitely this pause when it was all done,
Speaker 8: where you know, as Mark Dalton has said, you know,
Speaker 8: I just wanted to get out of there and end
Speaker 8: it all. But I don't know if there was gonna
Speaker 8: be anything else. I mean, if you're a writer or
Speaker 8: you're a TV guy, you don't need anything else, do you.
Speaker 8: I mean, this is that's pretty much all you need.
Speaker 6: And one of the intriguing aspects bertrand Barry and others
Speaker 6: talked about it. It was premeditated. He called his shot
Speaker 6: with the team in the postgame locker room. I'm gonna
Speaker 6: go out there and I'm going to create a stir
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna make it known we're none too happy.
Speaker 6: And in some ways I think he was trying to
Speaker 6: take ownership and some of the spotlight away from the
Speaker 6: team and the players have to answer questions about how
Speaker 6: they just lost to Rex Grossman, who finished with six turnovers,
Speaker 6: four picks.
Speaker 7: Two loss fumbles.
Speaker 6: Why was the ball kicked off to Devin Hester with
Speaker 6: the game hanging in the balance. Neil Rackers missing a
Speaker 6: forty yard field goal attempt that would have resolved all
Speaker 6: this at the very end of the game. So there
Speaker 6: were plenty of culpable party But sometimes what a head
Speaker 6: coach does is he owns it in the moment and
Speaker 6: tries to save his team.
Speaker 3: He did.
Speaker 8: Now now again, you know, the Cardinals were off to
Speaker 8: an awful start and that continued after this.
Speaker 3: It didn't really help the team.
Speaker 6: It really was the end of the season realistically, any
Speaker 6: playoff chances that loss. With the win, they get back
Speaker 6: into the mix and there's a viable chance. And I
Speaker 6: guess what, they went on a losing streak. They ended
Speaker 6: up starting one to eight, and Denny was done at
Speaker 6: the end of the year. So in a lot of ways,
Speaker 6: you know, now thereafter Denny owned it and leaned into it.
Speaker 6: In fact, as we found out at his funeral, it
Speaker 6: was the lead quote that you know, he didn't mind
Speaker 6: taking ownership of the they are who we thought they
Speaker 6: were and the crown them and sure enough it turned
Speaker 6: into a beer commercial and and and I'm sure you
Speaker 6: got even more questions after that. As someone who was there,
Speaker 6: one of the few people who can legitimately say they
Speaker 6: were in.
Speaker 8: The room, it's definitely something that is gonna be stuck
Speaker 8: in my memory bank of.
Speaker 3: Big moments that I've been around.
Speaker 8: And you know, every big moment that you cover, it's
Speaker 8: not always just a touchdown or what it's things like this.
Speaker 8: It's it's sitting next to Pat Tillman watching the towers
Speaker 8: burning on television, that kind of thing. And I think
Speaker 8: in this case, I mean, it worked out okay. Like
Speaker 8: you said, I think Denny leaned into it. I think
Speaker 8: he kind of enjoyed the notoriety to a certain extent.
Speaker 8: Obviously in the moment, he didn't that that team, the
Speaker 8: Denny Green years. I mean, you could write a big
Speaker 8: book about that, Paul, And there was a lot of
Speaker 8: stuff that happened in those three seasons in terms of
Speaker 8: coaches and players and things that happened and just crazy
Speaker 8: nutsy stuff. But obviously this particular night, that particular rant
Speaker 8: is going to be number one.
Speaker 6: Well, that was my second season as a Cardinal sideline reporter.
Speaker 6: I was on the other side of that door. Denny
Speaker 6: came in and he said almost the exact same thing
Speaker 6: as we've heard. I don't think it's gotten that crazy
Speaker 6: in my eighteen years since put it that way. For
Speaker 6: Darren Irvan and Jim Almhandro, I'm Paul Calvic. Thanks to
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