1
00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,280
Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up.

2
00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,640
Speaker 2: The knuckles ahead.

3
00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:06,880
Speaker 3: He got jacked.

4
00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,800
Speaker 1: This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

5
00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,880
Speaker 1: in Gilbert.

6
00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,480
Speaker 4: Where he's gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by

7
00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,400
Speaker 4: Buddha Baker Like a torpedo.

8
00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,279
Speaker 5: He came flying into the back field.

9
00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,840
Speaker 1: The Rage is brought to you by santan Ford in Gilbert.

10
00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,200
Speaker 1: Are you santan Ford State Farm talk to an agent

11
00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,960
Speaker 1: today at eight hundred State Farm, And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts.

12
00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,320
Speaker 1: Visit Hazycardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts.

13
00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:47,200
Speaker 2: All red scenes, rising up, temperaturizing vision, flurring rage, take

14
00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:47,920
Speaker 2: you over.

15
00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,400
Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

16
00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,320
Speaker 6: A'mready, I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you ab ready.

17
00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,320
Speaker 1: And Ron Wolfleeve.

18
00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:59,000
Speaker 7: It doesn't get any better than that leash the field.

19
00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,840
Speaker 6: You know, it's not every day, not every postgame, where

20
00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,720
Speaker 6: a press conference turns into a bona fide fear commercial.

21
00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,480
Speaker 6: And that is why we are gathered here tonight on

22
00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,360
Speaker 6: this very special Cardinals Folk Tales edition of The Big

23
00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,360
Speaker 6: Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. Paul Calvic

24
00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,120
Speaker 6: joined by Darren Rban. He was right there front and center.

25
00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,920
Speaker 6: Thanks Coach is the title of this edition Cardinals Folktales.

26
00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,200
Speaker 6: This is where you can't spell the word history without

27
00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,760
Speaker 6: the word story. We go into the Cardinals archives and

28
00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,600
Speaker 6: just all time anecdotes. And for you, Darren, when people

29
00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,479
Speaker 6: ask you about your more than two decades covering the Cardinals,

30
00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,720
Speaker 6: where does Danny Green's famous Monday Night meltdown? Where does

31
00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,640
Speaker 6: it rank on your personal power pole?

32
00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,520
Speaker 8: I mean in terms of memories, just memorable moments, it's

33
00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,320
Speaker 8: probably I would it wouldn't be number one because this

34
00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,440
Speaker 8: team did go to the Super Bowl, true, but it

35
00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:57,600
Speaker 8: would probably number two.

36
00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,200
Speaker 6: And it was Monday night football, yeah, and it was

37
00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,960
Speaker 6: a potential big time win that slowly but surely unraveled.

38
00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,639
Speaker 6: You thought the game was a meltdown. Then you got

39
00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,399
Speaker 6: to the postgame press conference and there was Danny Green

40
00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,160
Speaker 6: addressing the media and we're gonna hear it all for ourselves.

41
00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,440
Speaker 6: We're gonna go into the background. What led up to

42
00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,320
Speaker 6: that memorable moment? And really it was a week dare

43
00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,800
Speaker 6: I say several months in the making, because it went

44
00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,000
Speaker 6: back to the preseason in a lot of ways, did

45
00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:31,240
Speaker 6: it not?

46
00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:32,560
Speaker 3: It did? I mean.

47
00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,799
Speaker 8: Living through it in real time, and it was something

48
00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:41,680
Speaker 8: that I realized later that the things he was saying

49
00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,160
Speaker 8: absolutely came from playing the Bears in the preseason and

50
00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,799
Speaker 8: some of the things that happened, so which makes sense

51
00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,880
Speaker 8: with what he said. It's funny I go back and

52
00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,799
Speaker 8: look at my story and that wasn't even the lead

53
00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,959
Speaker 8: quote that I used. I used one of the players

54
00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,520
Speaker 8: lead quote talking about how it was a terrible loss,

55
00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,920
Speaker 8: and then I talked about it because you know, while

56
00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,720
Speaker 8: was huge at the time when it happened, I never

57
00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,160
Speaker 8: had an idea that it was going to be as

58
00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,080
Speaker 8: huge as it ultimately turned out to be.

59
00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,239
Speaker 6: And look, it really has been. I mean, some of

60
00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,600
Speaker 6: those sayings from that press conference have lived. I mean

61
00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,840
Speaker 6: they're all timers. You know, they are who we thought

62
00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,000
Speaker 6: they were, crown them. I mean, those are like all

63
00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,799
Speaker 6: time quotes from Dennis Green, who would later literally turn

64
00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,480
Speaker 6: it into a beer commercial and he would benefit from that.

65
00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,800
Speaker 6: And look, it wasn't the first time that Dennis Green,

66
00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:30,799
Speaker 6: shall we say, got emotional at the mic. I mean

67
00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,839
Speaker 6: he was known for being involved all on that way

68
00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,760
Speaker 6: a couple weeks earlier. And we're going to get into

69
00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,240
Speaker 6: this once we get into Cardinals Folk Tales. There I

70
00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,640
Speaker 6: was where he announced the changing quarterback from the veteran

71
00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,800
Speaker 6: Kurt Warner to Matt Liner live in our postgame radio interview,

72
00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,960
Speaker 6: ripping the microphone out of my hand from behind my

73
00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,640
Speaker 6: back away from Matt Lioner, and in declaring him the starter.

74
00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,000
Speaker 6: So you never quite knew what you were going to

75
00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,400
Speaker 6: get from Denny Green day to day.

76
00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:54,680
Speaker 9: No.

77
00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,240
Speaker 8: I remember one time in training camp that year, right

78
00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,640
Speaker 8: before Matt Lioner signed his contract, there was a question

79
00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,440
Speaker 8: about player injury. It might have been Carlos Dansby's injury.

80
00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,160
Speaker 8: That was the question, how is Carlos Dansby doing or

81
00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,240
Speaker 8: something like that, and he turned it into a soliloquy

82
00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,800
Speaker 8: about how guys should be signed. And Kurt Warner and

83
00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,680
Speaker 8: Tom Brady were going to be playing in the preseason

84
00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,880
Speaker 8: that week, and it'd be a shame if Matt Lioner

85
00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,960
Speaker 8: wasn't in New England to play in that preseason game

86
00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,920
Speaker 8: because he wasn't signed.

87
00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd do that stuff.

88
00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,400
Speaker 6: And you wonder, like, okay, what led up to Danny

89
00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,120
Speaker 6: Greens ran. Well, not only was it a blown halftime

90
00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,080
Speaker 6: lead where you were shutting out arguably the best team

91
00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,960
Speaker 6: in the league in the Chicago Bears, but it was

92
00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,960
Speaker 6: how Rex Grossman beat you with a half dozen turnovers

93
00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,480
Speaker 6: in that game? It is passer rating at halftime wasn't

94
00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,400
Speaker 6: even twenty. He was playing some epically bad football. And

95
00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,599
Speaker 6: then the Cardinals, to their own demise, well, they changed

96
00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,719
Speaker 6: their philosophy in the second half. In fact, the very

97
00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,560
Speaker 6: next day after this, the offensive coordinator lost his job.

98
00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,880
Speaker 6: So there was a lot of a lot of aftermath

99
00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,559
Speaker 6: from this game. But once again, when it just comes

100
00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,720
Speaker 6: down to all time anecdotes and the Monday night meltdown,

101
00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,400
Speaker 6: there were enough people in that room who loved telling

102
00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,000
Speaker 6: their story and where they were and how they saw

103
00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,120
Speaker 6: it unfold. And that's exactly what we're going to hear

104
00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,440
Speaker 6: in this addition to Cardinals Folktales. So with no further ado,

105
00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,560
Speaker 6: we'll come back and we'll get right into it once again,

106
00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:28,160
Speaker 6: the Emmy Award winning series Cardinals Folktales, which you can

107
00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,640
Speaker 6: see on the Cardinals YouTube page. But we're going to

108
00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,400
Speaker 6: get back into that next as we continue with this

109
00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,160
Speaker 6: very special addition to The Big Red Rage presented by

110
00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:46,520
Speaker 6: santan Ford and Gilbert. Welcome back everyone into this special

111
00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,000
Speaker 6: edition of The Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford

112
00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,080
Speaker 6: and Gilbert on Paul Calvic as we go back through

113
00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:58,359
Speaker 6: Cardinals folktales, in particular the Denny Green Meltdown two thousand

114
00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,080
Speaker 6: and six. And if you remember that season, it started

115
00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,680
Speaker 6: with a win and then the Cardinals lost four in

116
00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,800
Speaker 6: a row, two of those by a combined five points.

117
00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,200
Speaker 6: But the bright lights and the big stage were still

118
00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,320
Speaker 6: to come on Monday Night football. And you know all

119
00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,279
Speaker 6: we talk about sports is the original reality TV. Well,

120
00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,520
Speaker 6: how about a game where the Cardinals defense forced the

121
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,240
Speaker 6: opposing quarterback into six turnovers?

122
00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:23,480
Speaker 10: Right?

123
00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,760
Speaker 6: A game the Cardinals led twenty to nothing at the half,

124
00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:30,080
Speaker 6: yet it's still wound up with the pounding of the podium.

125
00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,279
Speaker 6: And it was well after the game that we learned

126
00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,960
Speaker 6: that the Denny Green meltdown might have been as premeditated

127
00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,880
Speaker 6: as it was spontaneous. So here on the Big Red Rage,

128
00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,359
Speaker 6: presented by Santanford and Gilbert, here we go with an

129
00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,159
Speaker 6: encore presentation of Cardinals folk tales. Thanks coach.

130
00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,279
Speaker 7: Do you believe this is happening?

131
00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,400
Speaker 9: No? I cannot remember Denny ever being that out of sourts.

132
00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,720
Speaker 11: It's one of those things that's gonna go down. I mean,

133
00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,080
Speaker 11: everyone's gonna remember.

134
00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,280
Speaker 12: You know, I mean, we just said, Wait, the Bears

135
00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:05,080
Speaker 12: are what we thought they were.

136
00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,280
Speaker 7: I said to my wife on the drive home, what

137
00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:07,960
Speaker 7: the hell did he.

138
00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,560
Speaker 5: Mean by that?

139
00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,480
Speaker 9: It was going really really well for us.

140
00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,800
Speaker 7: Boy, the Cardinals are flying around on defense.

141
00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,040
Speaker 2: Until it wasn't hutchdown Chicago.

142
00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:18,520
Speaker 7: Unbelievable.

143
00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:19,880
Speaker 5: There are no words.

144
00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,880
Speaker 9: It was deflating. We felt like we had done enough

145
00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:23,240
Speaker 9: to win.

146
00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,880
Speaker 5: The meltdown is complete for the.

147
00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:31,400
Speaker 6: Cardinal or was it Because the most memorable meltdown was

148
00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,280
Speaker 6: still to come after the.

149
00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:38,480
Speaker 5: Game, coach Dennis Green has got to be absolutely beside himself.

150
00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,320
Speaker 6: You could say that. Then again, Danny Green did say

151
00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,400
Speaker 6: that a postgame press Courfrence that beer commercials are made up?

152
00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:47,720
Speaker 7: Literally, who do they.

153
00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,160
Speaker 4: Think they are?

154
00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,040
Speaker 2: They are who we thought they were, They are who

155
00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,080
Speaker 2: you thought they were.

156
00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,080
Speaker 7: Ran with a life of its own that still has

157
00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:56,840
Speaker 7: legs today.

158
00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:57,480
Speaker 9: Oh I was.

159
00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,800
Speaker 11: I was next up on the podium, and I was like,

160
00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,520
Speaker 11: oh what am I walking into?

161
00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,640
Speaker 12: Woodell takes a third game in a preseason.

162
00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,720
Speaker 13: Like his book book, It was beautiful from the beginning

163
00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,320
Speaker 13: to the end to the MIC's laugh.

164
00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:11,840
Speaker 2: If you want to crown him, you crowned her ass.

165
00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:13,080
Speaker 9: It was a thing of beauty.

166
00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,200
Speaker 14: It started before you all even saw it though, Like

167
00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:17,720
Speaker 14: it started off in the locker room.

168
00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,000
Speaker 15: Because when my ass gets in there, I'm gonna go eight,

169
00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,720
Speaker 15: and I was like, whoa what?

170
00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,960
Speaker 6: It was an oh what the moment to be sure.

171
00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,640
Speaker 6: Welcome into Cardinals Folk Tales, Thanks Coach, presented by Seki,

172
00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,120
Speaker 6: where we go in depth into Cardinals history all time

173
00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,000
Speaker 6: anecdotes through the recollections and memories of those who lived

174
00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,240
Speaker 6: it or in my case, those who covered it.

175
00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,000
Speaker 7: My name is Paul Calvic, Cardinal's sideline reporter.

176
00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,880
Speaker 6: It was October two thousand and six, Monday Night football

177
00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,480
Speaker 6: where the Cardinals led the undefeated Bears Swanny to nothing

178
00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,560
Speaker 6: at the half. You had, Coach Green had good reason

179
00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:02,360
Speaker 6: to be angry, frustrated, exasperated Mount Saint Denny.

180
00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:06,000
Speaker 9: I'm telling you, when that clock went triple zero, something

181
00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,960
Speaker 9: snapped in Denny, and I don't think he ever recovered.

182
00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,440
Speaker 4: He did it in a special way that only dentist

183
00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:11,360
Speaker 4: screen could do it.

184
00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,560
Speaker 2: But they are who we thought they were, and we

185
00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:14,360
Speaker 2: let about the hook.

186
00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:16,559
Speaker 3: Thanks Coach.

187
00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,840
Speaker 6: Now, before we get to the pounding of the podium,

188
00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,360
Speaker 6: it's important to understand the stage and the stakes. Two

189
00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,840
Speaker 6: thousand and six was the debut season for University of

190
00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,000
Speaker 6: Phoenix Stadium state of the art. In fact, the roof

191
00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,920
Speaker 6: was open and the lights were bright for the building's

192
00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:47,280
Speaker 6: first regular season game in primetime, and the cameras loved themselves.

193
00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:47,360
Speaker 9: Some.

194
00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,839
Speaker 6: Matt Liner, the Cardinals rookie quarterback, transcended sports. Heck, he

195
00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,200
Speaker 6: made People Magazine's one hundred most Beautiful list, and as

196
00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,960
Speaker 6: host of Matt Liner's weekly radio show, I used to

197
00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,520
Speaker 6: marvel at how USC fans would make the drive to

198
00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,120
Speaker 6: Phoenix just to hang out in the sports bar for

199
00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,880
Speaker 6: a one hour radio show. And the star QB brought

200
00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,400
Speaker 6: out the stars as well. Here's Darren Urban from Azcardinals

201
00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,080
Speaker 6: dot Com.

202
00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,920
Speaker 8: Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore were at the game on

203
00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,640
Speaker 8: the sideline before the game.

204
00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,839
Speaker 5: Matt how excited he is Monday night flight. You might

205
00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,199
Speaker 5: be excited too, though, if you had Ashton Coocher at

206
00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,320
Speaker 5: Demi Moore cheered for you, David might be fired out.

207
00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,679
Speaker 5: That's kind of cool, you know, yeah, yeah, Demie, I

208
00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:29,160
Speaker 5: had done.

209
00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,880
Speaker 8: Charles Barkley showed up and he ended up making a

210
00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,640
Speaker 8: appearance in the booth during Monday Night Football, and there

211
00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,680
Speaker 8: was just there was a vibe to it.

212
00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,000
Speaker 3: Everything involved just seemed like a height level.

213
00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,880
Speaker 8: People were thinking Matt Liner was going to be the

214
00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,840
Speaker 8: next great quarterback. There was just so much involved.

215
00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,400
Speaker 10: It was the first round draft pick, Matt Lionert, who

216
00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,760
Speaker 10: was making a second star up now on national TV

217
00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:57,360
Speaker 10: against a very formidable and vaunted Chicago defense.

218
00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,439
Speaker 12: So yeah, it was.

219
00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,320
Speaker 10: There was a lot on display, a lot of unique

220
00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,920
Speaker 10: variables that went into that game.

221
00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,720
Speaker 6: That's Cardinal's VP of media relations, Mark Dalton, and he's right.

222
00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:11,320
Speaker 6: All the pregame talk all week was all about the

223
00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:12,400
Speaker 6: five and zero Bears.

224
00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,680
Speaker 4: The Chicago Bears are going to the super Bowl. It's

225
00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,240
Speaker 4: the best defense in the NFL in the history of

226
00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:21,800
Speaker 4: this league.

227
00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,439
Speaker 7: Oh wait, it's Week six.

228
00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,720
Speaker 4: Nope, But if you talk to everybody associated with the NFL,

229
00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,679
Speaker 4: including ESPN's Joe Thaisman, the Chicago Bears are on their

230
00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:32,760
Speaker 4: way to the super Bowl.

231
00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,360
Speaker 6: That's voice of the Cardinals Dave Pass, who certainly was

232
00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,559
Speaker 6: not ready to crown the Bears. Not in Week six.

233
00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,080
Speaker 6: Neither was Cardinals Pro Bowl pass rusher Bertrand Barry, who

234
00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,800
Speaker 6: wanted the world to know that the az played some DP.

235
00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,840
Speaker 9: Everybody was talking about how this is going to be

236
00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,520
Speaker 9: a non competitive Monday night football game, and we took

237
00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,640
Speaker 9: that to heart. And I know from a defense this perspective,

238
00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,800
Speaker 9: we wanted to go out and show that Chicago Bears

239
00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,000
Speaker 9: had a really good defense, but we were no slouds,

240
00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,040
Speaker 9: which is either and we felt like this is our

241
00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:03,720
Speaker 9: opportunity to make a big statement.

242
00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,640
Speaker 10: Yeah, you really can't understand the postgame or the game

243
00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,720
Speaker 10: without broadening the lens a little bit to the season

244
00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,320
Speaker 10: and the preseason as a whole. The backstory is we

245
00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,120
Speaker 10: played Chicago in Chicago in the third preseason game and

246
00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,160
Speaker 10: the Ones versus Ones held our own and outplayed the

247
00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:24,480
Speaker 10: Bears first team.

248
00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,960
Speaker 8: That was in the back of Denny's mind the whole

249
00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,560
Speaker 8: time coming up into that game.

250
00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,160
Speaker 3: And then we got.

251
00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,040
Speaker 8: Lovey Smith on our conference call that week and Lovey

252
00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:37,239
Speaker 8: Smith said.

253
00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:38,720
Speaker 3: It was a glorified practice.

254
00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,240
Speaker 9: We haven't really played them yet.

255
00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,160
Speaker 16: They were able to have some success against us back then,

256
00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,920
Speaker 16: but it's a totally different mindset.

257
00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,920
Speaker 9: The preseason games are important.

258
00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,439
Speaker 7: They're glorified practices to me.

259
00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,560
Speaker 8: And I think that got under Denny's skin a little bit.

260
00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,559
Speaker 10: I think that's important to know and to understand that.

261
00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:05,000
Speaker 10: Denny was probably a little disappointed when Coach Smith said, Yeah,

262
00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,439
Speaker 10: that preseason game didn't mean as much to us as

263
00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,880
Speaker 10: it seemingly did to you.

264
00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,520
Speaker 6: The game started, and it started well. Matt Lioner had

265
00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,800
Speaker 6: two touchdown passes in the first quarter. Cardinals beat writer

266
00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,640
Speaker 6: Ken Summers covered the game for the Arizona Republic.

267
00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:22,520
Speaker 13: The Cardinals dominated them in the first half. I mean dominant.

268
00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,880
Speaker 13: Matt Lionert was so sharp, and you could tell the

269
00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,520
Speaker 13: Cardinals had a game plan that put the Bears on

270
00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,439
Speaker 13: their heels. I mean, Whinert was hitting short passes everywhere,

271
00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,240
Speaker 13: and they were moving the ball, and the Bears, you know,

272
00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,679
Speaker 13: Rex Grossman was turning the ball over all the time,

273
00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,400
Speaker 13: and I thought they're going to win this game, you know,

274
00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,120
Speaker 13: and I think everybody did at halftime. That's how good

275
00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,720
Speaker 13: they were in the first half and how bad the

276
00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,240
Speaker 13: Bears were.

277
00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,920
Speaker 8: The Cardinals defense, you had a young Garnell dock At,

278
00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,520
Speaker 8: a young Carlos Stansby a young entre role. You had

279
00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,160
Speaker 8: Bertram Barry playing really well. You had Adrian Wilson in

280
00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,400
Speaker 8: the prime of his career. It was a pretty good

281
00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,760
Speaker 8: defense that was starting to find its way, and they

282
00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,520
Speaker 8: just made the Bears offense like a disaster.

283
00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:05,880
Speaker 9: They had Rex Grossman at quarterback, and Rex wasn't the

284
00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,320
Speaker 9: most talented quarterback. He didn't have the best arm, he

285
00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,800
Speaker 9: didn't make the best decisions. So we felt like we

286
00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,520
Speaker 9: could get a few balls from him, like he would

287
00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,000
Speaker 9: throw us a few and maybe we could get some

288
00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,960
Speaker 9: turnovers and go for the ball because he was a

289
00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:19,480
Speaker 9: guy that was pretty loose with the ball. He had

290
00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:20,320
Speaker 9: really small hands.

291
00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,520
Speaker 7: Play fake. Grossman steps up hitting the balls out.

292
00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,600
Speaker 4: He got sacked, but the ball was loose at the

293
00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,080
Speaker 4: thirty two yard line. It was bertrand Barry that came

294
00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,880
Speaker 4: around against his first sack of the year and a

295
00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:31,760
Speaker 4: forced fumble.

296
00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,520
Speaker 7: Again, there's still wrestling for it.

297
00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,680
Speaker 2: It's cardinal ball.

298
00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,360
Speaker 7: Berry comes up with a fumble recovery as well. He

299
00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,119
Speaker 7: did it all on that plot.

300
00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,000
Speaker 9: We felt like if we could get him the turn

301
00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,480
Speaker 9: the ball over more than what he had, that we

302
00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,640
Speaker 9: could as an offense score enough points in order to

303
00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,920
Speaker 9: get that went home. And it almost worked.

304
00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,920
Speaker 6: Almost as mentioned. The defense did its part. Rex Grossman

305
00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,200
Speaker 6: finished with six turnovers, four picks, two lost fumbles, his

306
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:03,320
Speaker 6: passer rating halftime seventeen point two. In fact, it was

307
00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,400
Speaker 6: twenty to nothing. Cardinals getting ready for the second half

308
00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,680
Speaker 6: and Dave Pash was still uneasy.

309
00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,800
Speaker 4: When the Cardinals were up. Fig Yeah, we were surprised,

310
00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:16,680
Speaker 4: but I think just because we had been snake bitten before.

311
00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,200
Speaker 4: I think there was a little concern, like you got

312
00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,920
Speaker 4: another half and then it all started to unravel.

313
00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,680
Speaker 8: Denny kind of got a little cautious, didn't want Matt

314
00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:31,360
Speaker 8: Leonard making any any mistakes. They started handing the ball

315
00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,360
Speaker 8: off to Edrin James time after time after time, and

316
00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,760
Speaker 8: he wasn't going anywhere. He ended up with fifty five

317
00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,400
Speaker 8: yards on thirty six carries.

318
00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:39,600
Speaker 9: That was ridiculous.

319
00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,960
Speaker 6: That's one point five yards per carry, and it was

320
00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:47,080
Speaker 6: Carrie after Carrie thirty six times. Edrin James ran the

321
00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,280
Speaker 6: ball and got nowhere. And it was by design a

322
00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,240
Speaker 6: halftime adjustment to make darn sure the rookie QB didn't

323
00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,960
Speaker 6: throw the game away literally once again, Ken Summers.

324
00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,320
Speaker 13: I think Denny Green went offensive coordinator Keith Rowing and

325
00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,520
Speaker 13: said back off, run the ball, run, drain the clock,

326
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,680
Speaker 13: and that's what they did. Brian Urlacker finished with like

327
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,240
Speaker 13: one hundred and nineteen tackles in that game. He hit

328
00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,360
Speaker 13: Edgrin James so often it was an unbelieve I've never

329
00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,200
Speaker 13: seen one player hit another player so often in any.

330
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:22,160
Speaker 5: Game they ought to name Erlacker Skycamp because he's everywhere.

331
00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,280
Speaker 5: He is, making plays sideline to sideline.

332
00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,520
Speaker 13: Even though the Cardinals got conservative and stunk, the Bear

333
00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,880
Speaker 13: still had to have four things go exactly right for

334
00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:34,800
Speaker 13: him to win that game.

335
00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:44,720
Speaker 6: Commencing countdown to meltdown, ignition to implosion. In three two one.

336
00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,040
Speaker 4: High formation behind the line of three step drop, here

337
00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,000
Speaker 4: comes Anderson of the balls babble that's loose on the

338
00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,360
Speaker 4: far side of the Bears. Mike Brown picks it up

339
00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,680
Speaker 4: and he walks in for a Chicago touchdown, and the

340
00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,280
Speaker 4: Bears have new life with two seconds to go in

341
00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,160
Speaker 4: the third quarter.

342
00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,240
Speaker 5: The one thing they can't do is turned the ball

343
00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,359
Speaker 5: over in that situation, and that's exactly what happens. Given

344
00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:06,200
Speaker 5: the Bears life.

345
00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,680
Speaker 4: Wolf gives me grief all the time that somehow I'm

346
00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,320
Speaker 4: the human Jinks for the Cardinals. He calls it the

347
00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,199
Speaker 4: pash factor. I say something and the next play the

348
00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,840
Speaker 4: opposite happens. Well, he did it to Edrin Edrin James.

349
00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,800
Speaker 4: Thank goodness, he's not a fumbler. Very next play fumbler.

350
00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,960
Speaker 5: The Cardinals really protecting the football right now, And that's

351
00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,560
Speaker 5: the great thing about having edgrin James too. The guy's

352
00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,919
Speaker 5: not a fumbler, David. He doesn't put it on the

353
00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,040
Speaker 5: ground very often.

354
00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,400
Speaker 4: Five twenty five to go on the fort twenty three

355
00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,680
Speaker 4: to ten Arizona, they're out of the eye with James,

356
00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,120
Speaker 4: the deep man. He gets it off the right side,

357
00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:43,879
Speaker 4: cut it back to the left, and he gets stuck

358
00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,040
Speaker 4: right in the legs at the forty one yard line and.

359
00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:46,640
Speaker 7: The ball's loose.

360
00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,520
Speaker 4: It's fumbled and picked up by the Bears farside Tilmot

361
00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,679
Speaker 4: at the twenty to ten to five touchdown Chicago.

362
00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,399
Speaker 5: Did I just say that, Oh my goodness.

363
00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,720
Speaker 4: A thirty six yard bumb I'm recovery for the touchdown

364
00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,880
Speaker 4: by the Chicago Bears, and with five minutes to go

365
00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,480
Speaker 4: there within one touchdown.

366
00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:13,320
Speaker 6: Another unforgettable, regrettable moment. Forget the pash factor, the wolf factor.

367
00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:18,879
Speaker 6: Jing seemingly spoke the fumble into existence. But wait, there's more. Now,

368
00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,760
Speaker 6: time for the Bears special teams to score.

369
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 4: Devin Hester. When Devin Hester caught the puntword I'll never forget.

370
00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,560
Speaker 4: As soon as he caught the ball on the return,

371
00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,359
Speaker 4: like he made one move in it. You saw it

372
00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,399
Speaker 4: Hestro waits for it at the eighteenyard line, backs up,

373
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,360
Speaker 4: and I runs right into the twenty twenty five log

374
00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 4: out thirty near side, forty at midfield forty five, forty

375
00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,400
Speaker 4: with a kicker to be thirty twenty fifteen to ten

376
00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,520
Speaker 4: five touchdown, Chicago and.

377
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,480
Speaker 7: The Bears unbelievably have tied this football game. You gotta

378
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:57,959
Speaker 7: be kidding me. No way, no way, unbelievable.

379
00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,720
Speaker 5: There are no works. The meltdown is complete for the

380
00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 5: Cardinals offensively and in transition.

381
00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,720
Speaker 9: Hunting the ball straight to Devin Hester. That that wasn't

382
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,280
Speaker 9: the best idea. So it just it was deflating. It

383
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:20,480
Speaker 9: really was, because we felt like we had done enough

384
00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 9: to win, and to see him return that punt for

385
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,560
Speaker 9: a touchdown, it just it took a lot to win

386
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,520
Speaker 9: out of ourselves.

387
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,119
Speaker 6: But as devastating as that may have been, rookie Devin

388
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 6: Hester with his second career return for touchdown, the Cardinals

389
00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 6: still had two fifty eight left down twenty four to

390
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 6: twenty three, with one last chance at redemption.

391
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 8: What everybody forgets is that they fell behind after the

392
00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:51,639
Speaker 8: partner turn by Devin Hester and Matt Lioner played like

393
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 8: the quarterback of the future came on the field. He

394
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 8: led them down the field into field goal range for

395
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 8: a game winning field goal through forty yards that's completely doable,

396
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 8: and then Neil Rackers blows it.

397
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 4: The snap's good, balls down, Rackers kick is up, but

398
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 4: has the lack.

399
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 7: Rackers kick is no good.

400
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,119
Speaker 4: Rackers fucked it and he just missed it to the

401
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 4: laft and the Bears takeover, leading by one.

402
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,239
Speaker 7: Unbelievable. Never ever seen anything like it.

403
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 12: We don't make it.

404
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 10: Had we made it, history would judge the next half

405
00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 10: hour forty five minutes much differently than than it does now.

406
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,119
Speaker 6: And as the Cardinals VP of Media Relations, Mark Dalton

407
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 6: there hinted, the drama did not end with the end

408
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,800
Speaker 6: of the game. The most memorable moments were still to come.

409
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 6: And when we come back, we'll learn how Denny Green's

410
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 6: meltdown came to be, including what was the question that

411
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 6: lit the fuse? And did the question even matter? What

412
00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,800
Speaker 6: did Denny Green say right before and after the rant

413
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 6: That actually explains a lot in hindsight, not to mention

414
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 6: how Denny eventually embraced and even monetized that moment. As

415
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 6: we continue with this special Cardinals Folktales, edition of The

416
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 6: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We

417
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 6: are santan Ford and welcome back everyone into The Big

418
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 6: Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert on Paul Calvic. Tonight,

419
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 6: a special Cardinals Folktales edition. This is where we say, look,

420
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 6: you can't spell the word history without the word story,

421
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 6: and we have documented memorable moments all time in Cardinal's history,

422
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 6: and tonight we're focusing on Denny Green's Monday Night meltdown

423
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 6: circa two thousand and six that, as we know, will

424
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 6: live on forever as an all time rant. And we're

425
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 6: going to pick up here where we left off. Denny

426
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 6: Green about to meet the media after the Cardinals blue

427
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 6: that waning to nothing halftime lead against the Bears, eventually

428
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 6: losing twenty four to twenty three about as excruciating as

429
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 6: it gets. Two words. In fact, Brew toull believe me.

430
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 6: I was a sideline reporter for that game. I did

431
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 6: the coach Green radio interview after the game, after the rant,

432
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 6: which we'll get to. But what about right before the meltdown,

433
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 6: Right before the media session. We're gonna hear from Beat

434
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 6: writers Darren Rban and Ken Summers and Cardinals VP of

435
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 6: Media Relations, Mark Dalton, as we continue with our encore

436
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 6: presentation of Cardinals' Folktales.

437
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 7: Thanks coach.

438
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 5: Coach Dennis Green has got to be absolutely beside himself.

439
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 6: So your team just lost in gut wrenching fashion, a

440
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 6: Shakespearean tragedy on national TV. You're the VP of media relations?

441
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 6: What do you do? What do you say to your

442
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 6: head coach.

443
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 9: Denny A Ton.

444
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 10: I mean, he's he's a professional, he's he's he knows

445
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 10: what he's got to do. And but no, there was

446
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 10: no harbinger of overwhelming sentiment that was any different than

447
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 10: you would have expected in that situation. So yeah, we

448
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 10: made our way to the interview room and proceeded to

449
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 10: address the media.

450
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 8: I was literally in the first row right in front

451
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 8: of the podium. I mean I was bracing myself because

452
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 8: I'm thinking, here's a guy who's going to give us

453
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 8: two word answers.

454
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: He's going to be super ticked off. And he wasn't.

455
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:38,120
Speaker 8: He came out and people started asking questions about hard stuff,

456
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 8: and he answered like it was any other game. And

457
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 8: then came the question and things changed.

458
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 17: Four picks against Grossman and two fumbles what do you

459
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 17: see about the Bears would shut him down that way?

460
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 9: Now, you know?

461
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 12: I mean, we just wait, the Bears are what we

462
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 12: thought they were, what we thought they were.

463
00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 13: The question was nothing about that. It was Mark freelancer

464
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 13: asking him about Rex Grosswinth's turnovers. It's like, that's what

465
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 13: I remember. It's like, what questions set him off? And

466
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 13: it was typical Denny. It's like, yeah, it had nothing

467
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 13: to do with That's not what set him off. He

468
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 13: had what he was going to say, and it was

469
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 13: coming out.

470
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 12: By god, we played him in preseason.

471
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 18: Who the hell takes a third game in a preseason

472
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 18: like us both book, We played him a third game.

473
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 18: Everybody played three quarters the Bears or who we thought

474
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 18: they were.

475
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 16: That's why we took the damn field. Now, if you

476
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 16: want to crown him, then crown their ass. But they

477
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 16: are who we thought they were, and we let him

478
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 16: out the hook.

479
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 6: And again, the media member who set him off was

480
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 6: freelance writer Mark Brown, who that evening was writing for

481
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 6: the Chicago Sun Times.

482
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 17: In this particular case, I was surprised by Dennis's response

483
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 17: because coaches are normally much more professional and much more

484
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 17: subdued in answering questions, but his comments were toward the

485
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 17: nature of the game itself and not directed to me,

486
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 17: who asked the question, or any other of the media

487
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 17: representatives who were in the room that day. It was

488
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 17: just inventing and just a level of frustration that he

489
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 17: probably felt that he had to exhibit at a certain time,

490
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 17: and it was delivered to the moment, and it wasn't

491
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 17: delivered specifically to an individual.

492
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 10: It's interesting the way it started was fairly calm, and

493
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 10: when it was over, it was over.

494
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 3: It was just that.

495
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 10: Minute and a half in between that it was not.

496
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 13: What was interesting to me about that whole moment is

497
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 13: if you covered that team. His rant made sense because

498
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 13: they had played the Bears in the third preseason game.

499
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 13: The Cardinals had played their starters into the third quarter,

500
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 13: The Cardinals had played well against the Bears.

501
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 9: They were very confident.

502
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 13: That's where the whole The Bears are who we thought

503
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 13: they were, you know, we let them off the hook.

504
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 12: We played them in preseason.

505
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,679
Speaker 18: Who the hell takes a third game in a preseason

506
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 18: like us.

507
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 13: The rare use of both back to back was just

508
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 13: you don't see that in a press conference very often.

509
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 10: Frankly the way the game was trending for three quarters

510
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 10: was bearing out what Denny was preaching, which was, hey,

511
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 10: don't let don't listen to anybody else. You're every bit

512
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 10: the equal to this Chicago Bears team even another five

513
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 10: and zero, And for three quarters he was one hundred

514
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 10: percent right and should have been standing in that podium

515
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 10: with great pride. And I think that is probably all

516
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 10: the things happening with him and what led to what

517
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 10: it led to.

518
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: The Bears or who we thought they were.

519
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 16: That's why we took the damn field.

520
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 2: Now, if you want to crown them, they crown your ass.

521
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 17: You know.

522
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 10: You decide, all right, I better get in there and

523
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 10: cut this off so we don't have another question and

524
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 10: keep this going. And there's different ways you can do that, right,

525
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 10: So one of the ones is to just okay, I'll

526
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 10: interject and thank the coach for his time. As I

527
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 10: think back, we probably weren't going to get another question

528
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 10: because he's looking around the room. There are a lot

529
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 10: of jaws on the floor and people were like okay,

530
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 10: So as you read the room, I thought it would

531
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 10: be appropriate, in hindsight, perhaps not to just pay nothing

532
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 10: to see here. We're moving on with the rest of

533
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 10: our program. Here, thank you, Coach Green.

534
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 2: They are who we thought they were and we're not

535
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 2: about the hook.

536
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: Thanks coach.

537
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 9: H.

538
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, that that did generate a little bit of attention.

539
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 13: It was beautiful, from the beginning to the end, to

540
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 13: the Mike's lap to Mark Dalton coming in and breaking

541
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 13: it up.

542
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 9: It was a thing of beauty. When I close my

543
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 9: eyes and I think about it, I always think of

544
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 9: Mark Dalton because Mark was the one that had to

545
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 9: say thank you, Denny, and you know, at that point,

546
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 9: I think Mark was literally afraid to say anything, and

547
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 9: you know, Denny heard him, and he just walked off

548
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 9: and he walked straight to Paul Calvac and Paul had

549
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 9: to interview him right after that. Not having a clue

550
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 9: what happened.

551
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: We were waiting, as we normally do for the postgame

552
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 4: interview with Paul, so we're waiting for Denny and we

553
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 4: see on the jumbo tron Denny hit the microphone say

554
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 4: what he said, and Jim Omhundra, the producer, gets in

555
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 4: Paul's ear and goes, Paul, here comes coach, and he's pissed.

556
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: And then I think Denny said the exact same thing

557
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 4: to Paul the whole third preseason game. They are who

558
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 4: we thought they were.

559
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 6: So the last question, head coach Dennis Screen, what do

560
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 6: you think will stick with your moss from this one?

561
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 12: I just think that we, you know, the Bears are

562
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 12: what we thought they were.

563
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 18: We played in the third preseason the game they played

564
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 18: their first team for three quarters, We played ours for

565
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 18: first three quarters. They are what we thought they were.

566
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 18: If you want to make them more than that, everybody can.

567
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 18: The Bears are exactly like we thought they were.

568
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 6: And if they're the consensus number one coach, was it

569
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 6: say about the potential of the.

570
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 12: Cardinals number ones at the end of the year.

571
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 6: Not Now there you go, head coach Dennis Screen, Guys,

572
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 6: we will throw it back to you.

573
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 4: Thanks a lot. Paul and Dennis Screen obviously fired up.

574
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, that before Paul with him,

575
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 4: he had his press conference which was played here in

576
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: the stadium, and well, let's put it this way, he

577
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: was a lot more calm with Paul than he was

578
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: with the media, as he was very upset visibly.

579
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 6: What I always tell people is that if you remember,

580
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 6: when Dennis Green exits the press conference room, he goes

581
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 6: through that door right well, on the other side of

582
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 6: that door was yours, Truant, totally unaware I was of

583
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 6: what had just gone down, what was about to go viral.

584
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 6: In fact, the wheels were already in motion.

585
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 10: Press conference ended and I walked into the locker room

586
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 10: where another member of our staff, Chris Melvin was was

587
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,239
Speaker 10: and he said, as he always does. You know, Hey,

588
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 10: how was coach? And I pause and I thought, I'm

589
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 10: not sure how to succinctly describe it, and he goes,

590
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 10: what do you mean. I'm like, I think you'll you'll

591
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 10: see it soon enough, and as it turns out, often enough.

592
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 8: The immediate aftermath was you know, all over the place.

593
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 8: I mean, ESPN was playing it like every six seconds.

594
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 13: I felt like that night, you know today that those moments,

595
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 13: you know, as soon as they happened, it's like going

596
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 13: to be iconic. But even back then, I just knew,

597
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 13: you know, they had those famous Coors Light commercials back

598
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 13: then where they took real moments in history, the Jim

599
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 13: Moore playoffs and those things, and I remember thinking, Denny

600
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 13: just got himself a Coors like commercial.

601
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 8: Hey, Coach, those guys just took off with all your

602
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 8: cold refreshing cors like, who do they think they are?

603
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: They are who we thought they were.

604
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 9: They are who you thought they were? Well, who do

605
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 9: you think they were?

606
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: They are who we thought they were? Okay, well if

607
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: you knew who they were, why didn't you stop them?

608
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: But get about the hook.

609
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 4: I think there's some people that felt that that was

610
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 4: a little staged, like it was coming the whole. They

611
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 4: are who we thought they were. But who cares? Right,

612
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 4: it didn't have to be completely off the cuff. So

613
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: what if he thought about it a little bit before

614
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 4: he went in there? I mean, that's what Hollywood's all about.

615
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 4: You know, Denny could have made it in Hollywood.

616
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, Dave pat is onto something there, because, as we

617
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 6: learn years later, Dennis Green had a post game plan.

618
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 6: In fact, we'll hear from Gabe Watson and Matt Lioner,

619
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 6: But first, here's bertrand Barry taking us back inside that

620
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 6: Monday night locker room where coach Green called his shot.

621
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 9: His shirt was untucked, he didn't have a hat on,

622
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 9: and those were two things that you never saw with Denny.

623
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 9: You never saw him without a hat and you never

624
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 9: saw his shirt untucked. And he was kicking this Green

625
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 9: Gatorade cup, you know those green Gatorade paper cups. He

626
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 9: just was kicking this one, you know, on the ground.

627
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,719
Speaker 9: Wasn't saying anything. It was just it was early quiet,

628
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 9: like I'll never forget it. And I can't even repeat

629
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 9: all the things that he said, but the basic crux

630
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 9: of the matter was he said, I don't want anybody

631
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 9: saying anything to the media because when I get in there,

632
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 9: I'm going off. He didn't see it quite like that,

633
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 9: but you can kind of guess how colorful it got.

634
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,239
Speaker 19: Came there, heated, and the first thing he said was,

635
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 19: I don't want anyone saying anything to the media because

636
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 19: when Mike, I can't say the next word going there,

637
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 19: I'm gonna go eight.

638
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 9: You can't say the next word. Yeah, so you called it.

639
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 6: He said he was gonna go off.

640
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, just a little pre premeditated.

641
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 9: I can't quite get up that high.

642
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 17: Men.

643
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 15: I don't want anybody saying anything to the media when

644
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 15: I get in there, because when my ass gets in there.

645
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go eight.

646
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 9: And I was like, oh what. It just was the

647
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 9: weirdest thing that I could ever remember. I cannot remember

648
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 9: Denny ever being that out of sorts, like it just

649
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 9: something snapped. I'm telling you, when that clock went triple zero,

650
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 9: something snapped in Dinny and I don't think he ever recovered.

651
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 6: Everybody remembers where they were when it went down when

652
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,479
Speaker 6: Danny Green went off, you were where Oh I was.

653
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 11: I was next up on the podium, so I remember,

654
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 11: I was just kind of standing there. I actually caught

655
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 11: the tail end of it and then uh. And then

656
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 11: Mark comes up and says, okay, next to up Matt

657
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 11: Lioner and I and I was like, oh, Mike, what

658
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 11: am I walking into?

659
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 5: You know?

660
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 9: And I was.

661
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 11: I was upset obviously the loss too. But I mean

662
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 11: it's it's one of those one of those things that's

663
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 11: gonna go down in history, is I mean, everyone's gonna remember.

664
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 11: You know, there's there's more Coach Mora playoffs.

665
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: Don't talk about playoffs.

666
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 11: Oklahoma State coach.

667
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm forty. There's a Denny, the Bears

668
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: or who we thought they were.

669
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 11: There's a handful of guys you know that are forever

670
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 11: gonna be a go down in history as some of

671
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 11: the best one liners. I guess, you know, so to speak.

672
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 6: Come on, give me a few lines. What do you

673
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 6: remember from and how to go?

674
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: They are who we thought they were. He lesn't about

675
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: the hook.

676
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 14: Players would joke about it in the locker room. I

677
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 14: was one of the guys joke about and sometimes I'll say,

678
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 14: you know, do the voice and whatever to the media.

679
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 6: Give us a dramatic reenactment, if you will.

680
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: They were who we thought they were and we let

681
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: them out the hook.

682
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 14: Players like, man, what are you doing? And I'm like,

683
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 14: what's wrong? I'm just me and me, you know, I'm

684
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 14: a clown.

685
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 9: Sometimes, you know, they were without they were they were

686
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 9: we thought they were. I mean, you know, and that's

687
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 9: how we took the dawn field. And if they want

688
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 9: to crown them and crown they're at they were we

689
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 9: thought they were, and we lot them off the hook.

690
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: The Bears who who we thought they were.

691
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 9: They were who we thought they were.

692
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 4: The Bears are who we thought they were, and we

693
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 4: let them off the hook. You want to crown them

694
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 4: crownham to.

695
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 7: Watch the third preseason game.

696
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: In the third preseason game during that to a regular

697
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 4: season game, Oh my goodness.

698
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 9: It wasn't funny.

699
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 14: After the loss after a few years being removed and

700
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 14: like seeing this commercial pop up and it's you know,

701
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 14: the same deal, and it's like, man, it's hilarious. You

702
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 14: know you can like laugh and joke with guy's a body.

703
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 6: And the impersonations definitely weren't limited to the Cardinals locker room.

704
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 6: On Fox NFL Sunday, for instance, Hall of famers Terry

705
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 6: Bradshaw and Jimmy Johnson channeled their inner Denny.

706
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 14: And the Cardinals recover from a lost like, well, I

707
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 14: think they can't.

708
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: I'll share it. I think they can't. You truly are

709
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 2: who we think we are. You just cry all you.

710
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: Can do it, Jimmy Crowlem crowd you have, I don't care.

711
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 6: I don't think they can a couple of shut up.

712
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 2: They got a good quarterback, all right now.

713
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 6: Not even a year later, even the Cardinals' next head

714
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 6: coach waited for the perfect opportunity to drop his own

715
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 6: Denny inspired quote. Here's Ken wizinon cracking himself up.

716
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 20: I mean, I think a lot of people outside of

717
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 20: the team or outside maybe at this conference, don't really

718
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 20: know a lot about An Kwan. But when you study

719
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 20: him on tape and you and you see him, it's

720
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 20: pretty apparent that he's a good football player. So he

721
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 20: is what we thought he was.

722
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 21: I couldn't decide whether I could go with that.

723
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 9: That was that was great. I've been I've been waiting

724
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 9: for so long for that.

725
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 6: Okay, honestly, that's probably the most or at least the

726
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 6: hardest we ever heard. Ken wizen On laugh as the

727
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 6: Cardinals head coach from two thousand and seven to twenty twelve,

728
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 6: because no doubt, Dennis Green was a tough act to follow.

729
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 6: In more ways than one.

730
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 13: Every day was an adventure. You never knew what you

731
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 13: were going to get. I always felt like sometimes I

732
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 13: needed a Danny Green interpreter. You felt like you were

733
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 13: covering maybe one of the last true characters in the NFL.

734
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 6: And in some ways maybe we should have seen the

735
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 6: Monday night meltdown coming because, for example, on his radio

736
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 6: show one week, we asked about the old line, and

737
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 6: oh boy, did we get an answer. I know during

738
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 6: training camp some of the offensive line incited, you know,

739
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 6: just the constant media discussion of the offensive line, you know,

740
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 6: as the weak link, and just saying, oh, they need to.

741
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 18: Click lineus so much. Those half those guys are making

742
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 18: over three million dollars a year. They need to just

743
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 18: get off their butts and start doing a job. You

744
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 18: know what, I don't like to feel sorry for guys.

745
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 18: There's no room for cry babies, no no room for

746
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,760
Speaker 18: soft side. When you're offensive lineman, you're getting paid big money,

747
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 18: then do your job. You can go watch Mason High

748
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 18: School play and you can tell if the linemen are

749
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 18: doing their job.

750
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 16: I'm not.

751
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 18: A seventy five year old woman in the stands can

752
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 18: tell if you're doing a job. I'm not because what

753
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 18: happens is the guy got blocked or he didn't.

754
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 6: All right, that was a doozy. And then a couple

755
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 6: of weeks before the Monday Night meltdown in Atlanta, after

756
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 6: coach Green had pulled starting quarterback Kurt Warner for rookie

757
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 6: Matt Liner, we had one last question in the locker

758
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 6: room for Liner when Coach Green blitzed us from behind

759
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 6: and answered in person, what do you know about the

760
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 6: quarterback situation going forward?

761
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 9: Now?

762
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 11: Oh, I don't know anything. I'm just gonna be ready

763
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 11: to play whenever.

764
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 12: I came Matti start next week match done.

765
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was a real time. Alrighty then moment for sure,

766
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 6: But for all we heard Danny Green had an eye

767
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 6: for talent his two thousand and four draft class, Larry Fitzgerald,

768
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 6: Carlos Dawn, Darnell Dockett in the first three rounds in

769
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 6: all timer. In fact, Denny's players formed the backbone of

770
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 6: that two thousand and eight Super Bowl team. Former third

771
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 6: round pick Darnell Dockett will always remember the man who

772
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 6: saw what Dockett could become, maybe even before he did.

773
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 14: Everybody will always remember him because of the they were

774
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 14: who we thought they were.

775
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: Everybody will be forever him.

776
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 14: But the thing that stands out to me was I

777
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 14: brought you here not to be a backup.

778
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 9: I brought you here to be a starter.

779
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 14: Now get out Dan and work like thata'sh my speech

780
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 14: from Dad day on, I never look back.

781
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 6: And that's our look back at Dennis Green and who

782
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 6: we thought he was in that very memorable moment. We

783
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 6: hope you enjoyed. Cardinals Folk Tales Thanks Coach, presented by

784
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 6: Seki for producer Jim A.

785
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 9: Mahundro.

786
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 6: I'm Paul calvic As we leave you with a final

787
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 6: word from Cardinals VP Mark Dalton, who spent as much

788
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 6: time as anyone with Dennis Green.

789
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 10: Sadly, Danny passed away in sixteen and a number of

790
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 10: us went to San Diego to his funeral service, and

791
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 10: the program of the funeral service was really well done,

792
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 10: and like many had, had his picture on the front

793
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 10: and the program and the songs and the scripture ratings,

794
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 10: but on the back page of the program it had

795
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 10: famous Denny Green quotations, and I think there were eight

796
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 10: to ten, but the very first one in the program

797
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 10: at his funeral was, they are who we thought they were?

798
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 7: And how about that?

799
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 6: A look back at Denny Green's memorable meltdown Cardinals Folktales

800
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 6: Thanks coach and bora head coach who won a one

801
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 6: hundred and thirteen regular season games in his career plus

802
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 6: four playoff games. H'd zoom out here. Even Denny Green

803
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 6: knew that's what he'd be remembered for. In fact, his

804
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 6: reports said late he tried unsuccessfully to trademark that phrase,

805
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 6: Danny Green. Now when we come back, we'll bring back

806
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 6: Darren Urban on how that moment that ran has lived

807
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 6: on and still resonates today in football, in the locker room,

808
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 6: in pop culture.

809
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 7: That is next.

810
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 6: This is a special Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big

811
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 6: Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert, and we're

812
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 6: wrapping up this Cardinals Folktales edition of The Big Red

813
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 6: Rage Presentavius San tan Ford in Gilbert. Thanks coaches. The title.

814
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 6: The coach was Dennis Green. The year was two thousand

815
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 6: and six. It was the Monday Night meltdown. Darren urban

816
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 6: is with us Paul Kelvis here. Darren was in the

817
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 6: press conference room. I was behind the door that was

818
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 6: Denny's next stop. I actually did not see that moment

819
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 6: until I got home, and then you couldn't stop seeing it.

820
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 6: As our jim O Mahundro said, it went viral without

821
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 6: social media. This was the infancy of social media. Darren.

822
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 6: Can you imagine a moment like that today and how

823
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 6: it would be splashed all over Twitter and beyond instantly

824
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 6: it would go viral.

825
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 3: Oh, there's no question about it.

826
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 8: Some of the things that we've seen, as big as

827
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 8: it turned out to be, it would have been just epic,

828
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 8: truly truly epic on social media.

829
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 6: Just being in that room. Take us back into that room.

830
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 6: I mean, was there disbelief when it was unfolding and

831
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 6: he's pounding the podium literally? What would you think was

832
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 6: the reaction of most of the media members in there.

833
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 8: I mean, I just think ultimately you're I mean, these

834
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 8: things happen in press conferences. Again, one of the things

835
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 8: people forget about is the fact that he had answered

836
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 8: a bunch of questions. It's not like this was the

837
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 8: first thing that was and he'd answered a lot of

838
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 8: them pretty normally, so you definitely weren't expecting that. You

839
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 8: were probably near the end of the press conference anyways,

840
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 8: but there was definitely this pause when it was all done,

841
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 8: where you know, as Mark Dalton has said, you know,

842
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 8: I just wanted to get out of there and end

843
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,959
Speaker 8: it all. But I don't know if there was gonna

844
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 8: be anything else. I mean, if you're a writer or

845
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 8: you're a TV guy, you don't need anything else, do you.

846
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 8: I mean, this is that's pretty much all you need.

847
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 6: And one of the intriguing aspects bertrand Barry and others

848
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 6: talked about it. It was premeditated. He called his shot

849
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 6: with the team in the postgame locker room. I'm gonna

850
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 6: go out there and I'm going to create a stir

851
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 6: and I'm gonna make it known we're none too happy.

852
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 6: And in some ways I think he was trying to

853
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 6: take ownership and some of the spotlight away from the

854
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 6: team and the players have to answer questions about how

855
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 6: they just lost to Rex Grossman, who finished with six turnovers,

856
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 6: four picks.

857
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 7: Two loss fumbles.

858
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 6: Why was the ball kicked off to Devin Hester with

859
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 6: the game hanging in the balance. Neil Rackers missing a

860
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 6: forty yard field goal attempt that would have resolved all

861
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 6: this at the very end of the game. So there

862
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 6: were plenty of culpable party But sometimes what a head

863
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 6: coach does is he owns it in the moment and

864
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 6: tries to save his team.

865
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 3: He did.

866
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 8: Now now again, you know, the Cardinals were off to

867
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 8: an awful start and that continued after this.

868
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: It didn't really help the team.

869
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 6: It really was the end of the season realistically, any

870
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 6: playoff chances that loss. With the win, they get back

871
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 6: into the mix and there's a viable chance. And I

872
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 6: guess what, they went on a losing streak. They ended

873
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 6: up starting one to eight, and Denny was done at

874
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,280
Speaker 6: the end of the year. So in a lot of ways,

875
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 6: you know, now thereafter Denny owned it and leaned into it.

876
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 6: In fact, as we found out at his funeral, it

877
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 6: was the lead quote that you know, he didn't mind

878
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 6: taking ownership of the they are who we thought they

879
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 6: were and the crown them and sure enough it turned

880
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 6: into a beer commercial and and and I'm sure you

881
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,439
Speaker 6: got even more questions after that. As someone who was there,

882
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 6: one of the few people who can legitimately say they

883
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 6: were in.

884
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 8: The room, it's definitely something that is gonna be stuck

885
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 8: in my memory bank of.

886
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 3: Big moments that I've been around.

887
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 8: And you know, every big moment that you cover, it's

888
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 8: not always just a touchdown or what it's things like this.

889
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,800
Speaker 8: It's it's sitting next to Pat Tillman watching the towers

890
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 8: burning on television, that kind of thing. And I think

891
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 8: in this case, I mean, it worked out okay. Like

892
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 8: you said, I think Denny leaned into it. I think

893
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 8: he kind of enjoyed the notoriety to a certain extent.

894
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 8: Obviously in the moment, he didn't that that team, the

895
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 8: Denny Green years. I mean, you could write a big

896
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 8: book about that, Paul, And there was a lot of

897
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 8: stuff that happened in those three seasons in terms of

898
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 8: coaches and players and things that happened and just crazy

899
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 8: nutsy stuff. But obviously this particular night, that particular rant

900
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 8: is going to be number one.

901
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,760
Speaker 6: Well, that was my second season as a Cardinal sideline reporter.

902
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 6: I was on the other side of that door. Denny

903
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 6: came in and he said almost the exact same thing

904
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 6: as we've heard. I don't think it's gotten that crazy

905
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 6: in my eighteen years since put it that way. For

906
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 6: Darren Irvan and Jim Almhandro, I'm Paul Calvic. Thanks to

907
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 6: everyone involved. That is Cardinals' Folktales. Thanks coach on this

908
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 6: special edition to The Big Red Rage presented by santan

909
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 6: Ford in Gilbert Number one, Tylo.

910
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: You've been listening to The Big Red Rage presented by

911
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: santan Ford in Gilbert. Are you santan Ford State Farm

912
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: Talk to an Agent today at eight hundred State Farm

913
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals dot com Slash podcasts.

914
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 1: This has been an exclusive presentation of the Arizona Cardinals

915
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: Football Club.