WEBVTT - Crimes Americans Don’t Hear About 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:26.680 All right, Leonards hindered all things simple man, that means 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:32.480 whole things. Bill O'Reilly, all things O'reillybilloreilly dot com. Mister O'Reilly, sir. 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.839 Now you can tell everybody what I texted you and 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.520 told you over the phone when you aren't feeling well. 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:43.479 I said you better not blanking die on me. Did 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:44.320 I not say that? 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:49.839 You did say that, Hannity, and that. 0:00:48.880 --> 0:00:52.680 I needed and by the way, that made all the difference, 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:53.280 and you got. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:56.920 Well right almost instantly. It was like going to Lord's. 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.040 I don't know if it's quite that all right, So 0:01:02.720 --> 0:01:05.040 I know you have a heart. I know you care 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:08.760 about people. I know you've been following the issue of 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:12.520 Savannah Guthrie and her eighty four year old mother. I 0:01:12.560 --> 0:01:15.080 don't like what I'm reading. I don't like the idea 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.040 of blood. I don't like the idea what the police 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:23.000 are saying, that this is likely an abduction and we're 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.400 going to find out what happened eventually. I really I 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:28.839 pray for her. I pray for a family, I pray 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:30.760 for a mom, all of that, and I think you 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:32.919 agree with me, right sure. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:37.839 I mean, elderly people in America are next to infants, 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:44.440 our most vulnerable population. You know, these things like this 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:50.960 are stunning, but it's hard to analyze it without any 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:56.160 hard data. Looks to me and you as a crime. 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:01.320 But we just have to be and that's not easy 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:02.760 for most Americans. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.400 It's not, nor it should it be. I mean, this 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:08.600 is tragic, especially because she has health issues, and that's 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:13.360 concerning to everybody. Here's the only thing that frustrates me 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.480 in all this bill. Do you have any idea in 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.880 the month of January how many people were shot and 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.720 shot and killed in Chicago. 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:24.799 I did not do the data yet, but I'm sure 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:29.080 it's more than a thousand, right, No, it's. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:33.760 About one hundred and thirty, about almost thirty dead. And 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:38.600 that's the month of January of this year. And by 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.200 the way, New York's not doing much better, and California 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.720 is not doing much better. You know, Illinois is the 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.839 worst of the worst. And the thing is is there's 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.120 not one person listening to this program that can name 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:56.440 one person that was shot or one person shot and killed. Now, 0:02:56.880 --> 0:03:02.120 I've been scrolling the people that have been arrested by Ice. 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:07.160 The worst of the worst, murderers, rapist Kyle Molesters, drug dealers, 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:11.919 known terrorists. I mean, they have done a phenomenal job. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:16.200 And there are two instances in controversy. I don't really 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.639 think the Renee Good case is controversial because she accelerated 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:23.440 the vehicle towards the law enforcement officer and he had 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:27.960 internal bleeding. Put that one aside. And I'm looking at 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.959 this and then I look. I hear the demonization, Nazi, 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:37.640 Gestapo defund Democrats now are dying on that hill. And 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.640 it's not that we should not give attention to Savannah 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:44.400 Guthrie's mom. I want all the attention we can give 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:48.120 this mother. And I hope and pray shee he is 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.880 found healthy and okay. But you know, why is it 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:55.760 all of these people die and you never hear a 0:03:55.840 --> 0:04:00.000 word from Democrats. Why is it all of these hardened 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:03.800 criminals that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris allowed into this country 0:04:04.400 --> 0:04:08.000 are arrested and Ice doesn't get credit. You know, Explain 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:13.600 to me how it is that Democrats only only speak 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.320 out about their love of life when they can weaponize 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:21.240 it and politicize it. That is the part that frustrates 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.920 the living hell out of me. And maybe I need help, 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:27.839 Maybe maybe I need Bill O'Reilly's perspective on this to 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.280 help set me straight as to why, Well, you certainly. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:34.520 Do need my help, and that's why I'm here every Wednesday. 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.840 It's scary, but if I need your help, I'm dead. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:42.200 It's a bigger picture. So when you have a party 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:48.839 the Democrats that are invested in selling a narrative to 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.160 the American people in order to get votes to win 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:55.160 the midterms, because that's what this is all about, they 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:59.560 don't really care about the collateral damage. But this is 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.640 a point and most vivid point I could make on 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.320 that an of the radio program today in Minnesota of 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.479 two people dead, but you don't have anybody dead in 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.039 New Orleans, and you don't have anybody dead in Memphis, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.279 and you don't have anybody dead in DC because the 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:23.920 local law enforcement cooperated with the federal government and Ice 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.839 and Border Patrol agents. So the two that were killed 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:35.080 in Minneapolis, I put most of the blame on by 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:39.000 the mayor and Walls, the governor. All they had to 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:43.880 do was say to local law enforcement, state and the 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:50.440 Minneapolis cops, you provide a parameter around the federal agents 0:05:50.760 --> 0:05:56.360 and don't let protesters get in their face. That is 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:01.279 called public safety. That is what would happen in any 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:06.640 kind of rational police strategy, and it's happening now in 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:10.240 the cities that are not sanctuary cities. But if you 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:18.159 abdicate there is no help coming from the state or 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:23.680 the local cops, then people who are agitated can go 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:28.120 two feet away from a federal agent and cause trouble. 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:32.719 That's insane, and that's what led to the deaths of 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:33.640 these two people. 0:06:34.200 --> 0:06:39.120 It's really chilling to me that we're in this environment 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:46.039 where Democrats, now, this is their posture, defund dismantle, no bail, 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:52.040 reimagine the police, defund ice and eliminate ice. They voted 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:57.120 against the largest tax cut in American history, and by 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:59.800 doing so, voted for the largest tax increase in a 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:04.800 miner history. They are beholden to the climate alarmist cult. 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:09.760 As Kamala famously said, it's the cost of democracy to 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:14.200 pay higher gas prices. I think that should work against them. 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:19.840 And on foreign policy, there's nothing that Donald Trump does 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:23.640 that they appreciate or agree with. They just want to 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.200 disagree with them for the sake of disagreeing. And to me, 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:31.520 if that's the position they're staking out heading into this 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:35.000 very important midterm election year. I think it's a very 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.720 bad position for them to be in. Do you agree 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:38.560 or disagree? 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:41.160 I disagree a little bit. 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:44.360 That's not allowed on the show. Goodbye Bill nice knowing you. 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:51.800 That's right. The Democratic Party is running on emotion. They're 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:56.840 not running on problem solving, practical success or any kind 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.520 of objectivity about what works and what does a work. 0:08:01.240 --> 0:08:06.960 It is one hundred percent emotion. Now, all any voter 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:10.120 would have to do would be look at the record 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:15.040 of California Newsom and Illinois Pritzker and New York Hochel, 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:21.280 and you see the catastrophic policies that have led to 0:08:21.400 --> 0:08:25.080 failure in those three states. There is no debate about it. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.040 There's no two sides of the story. The stats, and 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:32.079 you brought them up earlier, on crime are horrifying. The 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:41.320 stats on taxes are horrifying, Social order terrible. But what 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.640 the Democratic Party does because they have, for the first 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:51.880 time in history, by the way, this colossus media enabling 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:56.319 the party. They're together, it's an alliance. They can get 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:00.800 out a tremendous amount of emotional stuff to try to 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:05.559 convince viewers and listeners and voters who are not rare 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.720 verised on what's really happening to vote for them. That 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:14.280 is the strategy in November. Demon eyed, demon eyed, demon eyes, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:15.559 And it could work. 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.400 It definitely could work. I mean, and I think people 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.640 that love Donald Trump, you know, many of them will 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.240 only vote if he's on the ballot. And I think 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.480 the best strategy for him is to put himself on 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.040 the ballot. And I think people need to be very 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:35.000 keenly aware that all the progress he has made the 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:39.400 last year plus will stop and we will be in 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:43.480 full investigative mode and full impeachment mode, because that is 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.960 the predictable outcome if Democrats get back control of either 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:49.720 or both the House and Senate. 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:53.839 Well, the avision thing is is canarid because that'll never 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.679 happen any two thirds to convict. And if they want 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.719 to do another dog and pony show, I don't think 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:02.079 that's going to be well received by the American people 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:05.839 in general. The independent voter always tells a tale now 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.240 in this country, but there are a lot of distractive 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.560 independents that you really don't know what's going on. So 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.439 Trump has a few advantages coming up, but it has 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:17.120 to do with messaging. So when he has a success 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:22.200 you've got to message it. Messenger it in the most 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:26.079 vivid way possible. So tax thie funds. That's going to 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:28.200 help Donald Trump because people are going to get a 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:32.280 bigger check, and the Democrats voted against the bigger check. 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:36.320 That's pretty simple. Gas prices can continue to fall, and 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:40.160 everybody needs gasoline in their car. The utility thing is 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:43.360 kind of murky, but just filling it up that's a 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:47.080 big Trump advantage. Food. I always say to my audience, 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.280 if you're smart, you're not going to get crushed. If 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.000 you got to buy Porter House steak, you're going to 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.319 get slammed up to you. But you can go. 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.880 You could always buy skirt steak. Bill, I love skirt steak. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:04.760 Whatever it may be, you go, you select, you won't 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:08.120 it crushed. If you buy smart, you can take an 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:09.920 advantage of on leveled. Don't do it. 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:12.600 By the way, I like ground beef. By the way, 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.560 you know, chicken sometimes can be at a really good price. 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.640 I mean I go grocery shopping every week. I bet 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:20.000 you have people that do that for you. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:24.560 Right a minute, Hattie, I need a picture of you 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.959 and Wind Dixie with the cart. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.520 Okay, I don't go to Wind Dixie. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.360 I go to publics, publics, whatever it may be. We 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:34.680 need the picture of you with the car. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.880 Well, why is this that people doubt this? Every single 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.640 week when I go shopping, somebody will stop me and 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.040 say what are you doing here? And I'm like buying food? 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.480 What do you think I'm doing here? Well? Why is 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.200 that a shock to people that I go grocery shopping? 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.040 I eat meat and I eat eggs, and I like 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.640 to pick my own meat. Why is that shocking to people? 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.200 Listen? It is how is in a grocery store in 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:03.240 Palm Beach, he how you live? And a lady comes 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:06.800 up to me and I'm on the checkout line. She goes, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.560 you lost a lot of weights, and I said, no, 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:14.480 a camera gives you ten pounds on TV. This is 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:18.720 my playing weight is about one ninety five. And she goes, well, 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.720 I don't like the way your jacket is tailored. 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.000 Oh my gosh. No, I get the same question what 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:28.280 are you doing here? And I look at people like that, 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.560 That to me is the strangest question, because we all 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.400 like to eat and I like to pick my own food. 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:37.160 Do you go shopping every week or do you have 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:37.800 people for that? 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.400 I have I have some people, to be honest. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.240 No, no spins, mister O'Reilly. 0:12:44.480 --> 0:12:47.720 I go once. I go occasionally to get because I 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:51.240 have certain things that I like. But I'm busy. You're busy. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.120 I mean people are good, right, we're feeding there? 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:57.880 Well, occasionally I use instacart. Do you ever use instacart? 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:00.679 What is that? Some kind of high jeck? 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.440 Good grief? You don't know what instacart is? Do you 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:04.680 know what uber eats is? 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:05.360 No? 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:06.040 What is that? 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:08.920 And there are you listening to this? I mean, what 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.560 century do you live in? For crying out loud? Good? 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.840 I like Bill be nice to him. I am being 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:17.200 nice to him, but I mean he was born like 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:20.400 ten centuries before us if he doesn't know what instacart? 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.400 And Bill don't want to talk to you like that. 0:13:23.160 --> 0:13:24.480 By the way, what are you gonna eat for the 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.520 super Bowl? And who are you predicting is gonna win 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:27.240 the super Bowl? 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.880 All right, we're out of the grocery in super Bowl 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.280 number one. I'm gonna be there number two. 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:37.320 I know what. Everybody hates you for saying that. Just 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.120 for the record, I've been to super bowls before. You 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.040 know where the worst place to watch the Super Bowl 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:43.280 is at the super. 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.040 Bowl, but I may be a chaperoning bad Bunny. 0:13:46.360 --> 0:13:52.160 All right, did you hear bad Bunny at the Grammys 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.959 for a week before I get praise to God, Let 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.920 me first say ice out. Oh okay, great, great, great choice. 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.400 But here's an interesting aside. And I know this to 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:06.480 be true. The NFL has told his management no better 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:07.840 or not, so. 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:10.320 They can say it all they want, but at the 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:12.440 end of the day, it's gonna be what it's gonna be. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.120 I'm now you know what. By the way, who do 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.760 you want to win? I want the Patriots to win 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.560 because I like Robert Kraft personally. He's one of the 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.440 most decent people you would ever meet in your life. 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.880 Love him, very charitable man. I'm in Boston's my second home, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.520 so of course I want the Patriots to win. Here's 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:34.040 the problem. Seattle is a better team. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:38.040 The Addle on paper is a better team. Concede the point. 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:41.840 But that's why you play the game. I mean, I 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.920 put you on every week. I have no idea what 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.600 I'm in for, but I put you on anyway. I 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:46.200 play the game. 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:51.880 That's because it's fun and he's got very players. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:55.200 All right, mister O'Reilly We appreciate you all things simple man. 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.440 Bill O'Reilly at Bill Oreilly dot com. Sir, you have 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.360 a great time at the super Bowl. Will check in 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:01.760 with you next week see how it went. 0:15:02.200 --> 0:15:03.560 Okay, Thanks for having me. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:06.520 Eight hundred and nine point one, Shawn our number if 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.280 you want to be a part of the program. It 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:14.760 is heartbreaking the story of Savannah Guthrie's mother, eighty four 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:17.760 years old. He's not in the best of health. What 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.440 we're hearing from law enforcement does not warm the heart. 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:26.200 It scares me. The fact that she was abducted against 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:30.080 her will out of her home in the dark of night, 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.840 blood found at the scene. And now Harvey Levin at TMZ. 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.080 I've known Harvey a long time. Harvey is a great guy. 0:15:38.560 --> 0:15:42.120 He's really someone you can trust and he would never 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:45.720 report something unless it's it is true. I just know 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.800 how he rolls, and this is what he said that 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:55.680 TMZ received this well unverified ransom note. Also, a local 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:59.120 station in Los Angeles received a similar note. As a 0:15:59.120 --> 0:16:01.240 matter of fact, the exact same note. 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:06.560 We got something in our email that looks like a 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:10.120 It's written like a ransom note for Savannah Guthrie's mother. 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:12.960 Specific rly and there were very certain amounts of money. 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.320 Very specifically, and also they say at the bottom there 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.440 are certain things they're saying about what she was wearing 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.200 and damage to the house, as. 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:25.760 If saying to verify it's us, we know what you're 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:26.280 talking about. 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.720 It so we are. We've contacted the Sheriff's department and 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:36.040 we want to get them this letter. And we had 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:38.040 a little trouble getting through to the right person. But 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.960 the person we spoke with is now forwarding this to 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:46.480 somebody in the detective bureau. So if my phone rings, 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:47.720 I may have to stop. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.760 And what's interesting is, you know, there was just a 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:53.720 news conference that just ended with the sheriff and he 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.320 was asked about we're going to do this segment of 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:59.080 a few minutes, but he was asked about a ransom 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:02.040 note and he just said, we're following all leads. 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.240 Yeah, and this is it's again, we don't know, we 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:09.959 don't know if it's authentic or not. But when you 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:14.280 read it, they're acting as if, yeah, only we would 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:17.439 know these things, and we're serious, and there's a dollar 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:22.480 demand and an or else in there. So we will 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.600 let you know as this thing kind of develops. 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:27.679 Now, if you think about it, if this was just 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.119 a simple robbery, or if they wanted to bring harm 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:35.640 to Savannah Guthrie's mom, why would this not have happened 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.840 on the location. It has all the ear markings of 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:43.560 some type of real ransom. It's chilling, it's frightening. It's 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:47.280 what every American would fear. And obviously our thoughts and 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:50.520 prayers are with the family I've met, say Savannah Guthrie, 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:53.520 She's a lovely person, and I can't say that about 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.840 everybody in the legacy media that I've met in my life. 0:17:56.840 --> 0:18:00.160 Trust me. Anyway, we welcome back to the program. He's 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:03.920 a longtime friend, I think, the smartest person in terms 0:18:04.000 --> 0:18:09.600 of analysis of crime in the country, and I'm proud 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.520 to call her a friend. And it's Nancy Grace's with 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:18.119 us last night. You were so good on TV and 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.920 so knowledgeable. I mean, you really seem to know every 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.960 detail of this. Tell me what your gut is telling 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:26.320 you where we are today? 0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:30.760 Number one, thank you for inviting me, Sean. And likewise, 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:36.159 first of all, I know Savannah. I care about Savannah, 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:40.679 and what you said is true. She's not just sweet 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:44.480 and nice and genteel On air. She's that way in person, 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.080 unlike a lot of people on the TV fake fake, 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:48.439 fake fake, She's not. 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.040 We know those same people. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:58.120 Therefore, I'm telling you that up front because I want 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:00.960 to believe what I'm about to say, and that can 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:05.600 cloud your judgment. I want to believe that Nancy Guffery, 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:09.080 Savannah's mother, is alive. I don't want Savannah to put 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.240 put be put through the pain that so many of 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:14.880 the crime victims endure. So I'm looking at the facts 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:18.480 in a certain way, and that is this. When I 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.040 first heard that there was DNA and it had been 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.960 matched to Nancy Guffrie, I immediately thought that it was 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:29.720 blood because as an easily identifiable DNA source, you're not 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:34.159 going to just suddenly see perspiration or you know, some 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.479 other DNA matter. So I knew it was blood. They 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.199 would only see if it find it interesting if it 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.440 was a copious amount of blood, which would mean she's dead. 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.440 You can only lose so much blood and you die, 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.879 you bleed out. That was my first fear when I 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.520 realized the DNA was blood. Then I thought, wait a minute, 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.080 is the d is the blood in an unusual spot 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:59.640 like streaks of it on the door or upon the ceiling, 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:03.879 which is you know, throwback from a bludgeoning. Yeah, I thought, 0:20:03.880 --> 0:20:06.680 oh no, it's high velocity. It's high velocity, which means 0:20:06.680 --> 0:20:10.800 a gunshot. It's none of those things. From the blood 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:12.600 that we have seen in the photos, which is a 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.400 blood trail of sorts, not very long. It's leading from 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:19.479 her door to the driveway, and it appears to be 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:21.720 and this is very significant if this is all the 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:25.880 blood there is, it appears to be low velocity drops, 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.800 which to me looks like from for instance, a nose bleed. 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.359 I see other blood around it which looks like it 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.760 could have been aspirated. In other words, how can I 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.000 say this in common terms, breathe out. So that's the 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.359 pattern that I see in a lot of worlds that 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:48.320 may not be good. In this scenario that is good. 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.359 There's not a copious amount of blood, so that means 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:56.000 to me, she could still be alive. We haven't found 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:59.720 her body, that's the headline. Kada or dogs haven't found 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.760 any thing that is. That's a bombshell right there. We 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:07.920 have no indication she's dead. Statistically, yes, she might be dead. 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:13.120 Statistically yes she's dead, But there are encouraging signs as well, 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:15.800 and I'm reading the tea leaves because I want to 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:19.440 read them this way. However, she is an elderly lady. 0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:21.960 She's eighty four, and she is on a lot of meds. 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:24.280 You know, she's got a pacemaker. That tells me she 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.600 has heart issues as well. She can only be offered 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:31.480 meds so long, this is what we're learning. We're learning 0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:34.439 that that ransom note may have been sent to a 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:38.040 third outlet. We know TMZ, we know, we know Cold 0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:42.159 Kold now possibly to k g u N K GUNN. 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:46.080 What does that mean? That means it's an orchestrated event. 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:51.200 They want a huge amount of money, millions in bitcoin. Now, 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:54.439 who would do that? That's telling me a lot about 0:21:54.480 --> 0:21:58.680 an alleged purp that they would want the money in bitcoin. Now, 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:00.840 a lot has been made about her of interest at 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:03.040 this juncture. The share has come out and said there 0:22:03.040 --> 0:22:06.560 are no suspects, there is no POI. I want to 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:08.800 believe them, but they always say that when they've got 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.960 a POI. Right, Why because once your name to the suspect, 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:18.879 constitutional protections shroud you. Until your name to the suspect, 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.640 you know you don't have those constitutional protections. But at 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:25.240 this juncture there is no suspect and there is no 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:30.680 POI another thing I'm wondering about then, the ransom letters. 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:35.160 They apparently have written what Nancy Duffery was wearing at 0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:38.480 the time of her abduction. Was it a PJS? She 0:22:38.520 --> 0:22:41.240 woked to that church event that's Saturday night. I'm curious 0:22:41.280 --> 0:22:45.080 to find out if she's still wearing her clothing she 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:48.560 wore to the event, Sean, that tells me that she 0:22:48.680 --> 0:22:51.600 had not been home for long. She has a routine, 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:53.920 she gets him bed at a certain time. She would 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:56.919 have already put on a PJS. If she's wearing her 0:22:56.960 --> 0:23:01.320 street clothes, that means she was abducted almost immediately upon 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.920 getting home, which means the part was watching her and 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.879 knew her routine. If she has on her PAGs, then 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.800 the ransom note will reveal that. And if that's accurate, 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.760 then the ransom note is for real. 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.120 And it's all scary to me. You know, I want 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:20.199 people to know where your passion comes from, and I 0:23:20.280 --> 0:23:23.359 don't want to bring back bad memories in your life. 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:28.440 But you were engaged and something tragic happened in your 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:32.119 life and it resulted. I mean it changed your life 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.000 on a dime. And this happens to victims of crime 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.439 all the time. I just want you to remind people 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:41.760 of what you live through so people understand exactly where 0:23:41.800 --> 0:23:43.720 this passion of yours has come from. 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.480 Well, Sean, for you, I will do that. I typically 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:50.640 did not like it, ill you. 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:52.720 Don't have to. I mean, I care too much about 0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:53.440 you as a friend. 0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:57.160 Just gave I'm in the car actually all the way 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.240 back from giving a Founder's Day speech at one of 0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.360 my alma mas, Mercer University in Macon. I graduated from 0:24:02.400 --> 0:24:06.240 there in Ny. You and I was in the middle 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.560 of my speech and I had to give this story 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.440