1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Show rolling through the Friday edition of the program right 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: off the top. No, we still do not know what's 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: going to happen in Nevada, where Adam Laxalt leads by 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: around nine thousand votes with ninety percent of the vote 7 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: in also maybe flipping the governor's race there. It could 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: be a pickup for Republicans. No, we still do not 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: know what is going to happen in Arizona, where it 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: may well go into Monday or Tuesday before all of 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: these ballots are officially counted. I am out in Phoenix 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: right now, and I appreciate our host at k FYI 13 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: for having me here. This is all madness and Monday. 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: I hope Buck, we're going to have some sense of 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: what has actually transpired. Already in the first hour we 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: heard from Herschell walk are good news there. Brian Kemp, 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: the governor who won by eight or nine points over 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: Stacy Abrahams, is basically his apparatus, his entire network taking 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: over in the runoff election to try and help Herschell 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: beat Reverend Raphael Warnock. We hope that that is going 21 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: to be a race with the Senate still in a 22 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: potential winnable scenario for the Republicans, but we don't know 23 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. In Nevada and Arizona. That race 24 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: is going to happen on December sixth. There is major 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: feuding going on, most of it from one direction, as 26 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is taking shots at Republicans everywhere, including the 27 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: governor of Virginia. Glen Yunkin will have his response in 28 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: a bit certainly Florida Governor Ron de Santis, Trump saying 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: that Ron De Santis is just an average governor. The 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four primary season is already upon us before 31 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: we even know how the twenty twenty two elections have 32 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: turned out. Molly Hemingway, who is super smart. Her mom 33 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: also super smart, a big time daily listener book if 34 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: I remember correctly, so Molly Hemingway's mom, you're about to 35 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: hear from your daughter, she says, in that family, I 36 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: just want to point out Molly's brilliant, Her mom is brilliant, 37 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: great taste in radio as well. Molly Hemingway says Republican 38 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: leadership really felled. Republican voters listen to this. The ground 39 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: was very fertile for a big Republican victory. Joe Biden's 40 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: approval is in the toilet. Seventy five percent of the 41 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: country thinks we're going in the wrong direction, and that 42 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: Republican leaders could not turn that into a big victory 43 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: for Republicans really is an indictment of how they're running things. 44 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: Elections are not run anymore like they were in the 45 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. There is now extensive period of voting where 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 1: people who are smart are running get out the vote 47 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: operations every day, hauling in balls every day. Republicans keep 48 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: on thinking that election day is a single day, and 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: they think if they get everybody excited for that last 50 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: day that that will be sufficient. That is not sufficient. 51 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: What does sound like? Does she sound like? Idn't I 52 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 1: don't even hear that that till I think it was 53 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: this morning when that clip came out, and it's one 54 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 1: hundred percent true. And I guess I think it's just, 55 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, we have some of these, you know, these 56 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: cultural and ideological habits as concerned, Yes, should election day 57 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: be just a day? Should you have to actually show 58 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: up and vote? Unless you're going to an absentee ballot 59 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: for some reason or whatever. Yeah, absolutely, I'm with all that, 60 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: except we either get serious about how the Democrats have 61 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: changed the election structures to favor them in states that 62 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 1: are obviously very purple. In some states like Pennsylvania, where 63 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: they have a serious registration advantage. Even though I don't 64 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: think Pennsylvania is a super blue state when you look 65 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: at the whole population, they do have a serious registration advantage. 66 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: They do have get out the vote as early as 67 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: possible efforts. You know, we fight fire with fire and 68 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: we keep losing. I know people don't necessarily want to 69 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: hear that, but I think that it's important to say it. 70 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I think Molly's one hundred percent right. And you know, 71 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: we're gonna lose Pennsylvania again in twenty twenty four, and 72 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna lose Arizona in twenty twenty four. If these 73 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: things are not addressed. It's not enough to point out 74 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: what a crap, you know, ridiculous show it is right 75 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: now at the vote counting there. So i'most set other 76 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 1: things there. You just you know, you know what I'm saying. 77 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: I just get fired up about it because look, guys, 78 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: if we can the economy could have been better. Inflation 79 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: sometimes takes a while to kick in. You know, they 80 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: might have gotten lucky, Clay, if inflation was three percent 81 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: or four percent. What does this midterm election look like 82 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: for us? That's why I said Buck that this was 83 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: so troubling to me, because in twenty twenty I could 84 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: see why someone who was a persuadable voter might have 85 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: supported Democrats. And I always try to think take myself 86 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: out of the equation and everything that I believe. But 87 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: you could say, hey, I'm really scared by COVID. The 88 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: COVID fear porn, as I called it, really did work. 89 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: You could see why someone might say, hey, you know what, 90 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm just tired of Donald Trump constantly breaking things right. 91 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: It's like a bull in a china shop, and I 92 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: just want to go back to normal. I don't want 93 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 1: to have to check my phone to know what the 94 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: latest crisis is. I just kind of want to go 95 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: back to not really being that concerned about politics on 96 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: a day to day basis. And you could see that 97 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: and say, okay, I can see how maybe Joe Biden 98 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: gets some support from independence. The fact that we didn't 99 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: win a landslide, given that Joe Biden is the worst 100 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: president of our lives, is a messaging failure on some 101 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: level by Republicans and Buck. What's intriguing to me as 102 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: you start to look at the numbers is in many 103 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: states we did see a red wave. We saw a 104 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: red tsunami in Florida. There's a great piece up in 105 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: the New York Times talking about why there was so 106 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: much of a divergent outcome in New York where crime 107 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly was the story, and Republicans picked up a lot 108 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: of seats, they basically swept Long Island, and yet next 109 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: door in Pennsylvania, Democrats were able to have a more 110 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: successful campaign, even with the disaster of a candidate in 111 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: John Fetterman twenty the worst debate performance any of us 112 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: have ever seen in a major political race. Ever. Ever, yes, 113 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: every four points, not even one close. So we have 114 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: to face reality here. Okay, we can't do this, Oh 115 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: but we wont or oh but they cheat they I 116 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: got news for you. Go back to Lyndon Johnson. Democrats 117 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: have been cheating longer than most of us have been alive. 118 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: That's not going to change. We've got to win to 119 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: to the point you were making play. You gotta win 120 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: by an on the scoreboard that you get around whatever 121 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: shenanigans are involved here. There is election cheating. People go 122 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: to prison for it, as we know. So it is 123 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: happening in election after election, But is an election changing 124 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: and can we get beyond whatever they're doing? Those are 125 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: the questions that we have to be very, very honest 126 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: and serious about them. To your point, Clay, one of 127 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: the troubling data points that has come out of this 128 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: is how often Democrats are very upset about a thing. 129 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: Remember the folks, the Democrat Party is to give me 130 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: five vaccine shots that don't work, double mask my kids, 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: shut down, the schools make me mask up on planes 132 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: and walking to restaurants, but not everywhere else, and are 133 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: walking inside of restaurants. They're okay with it. A lot 134 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: of Democrats said the economy is crappy, inflations too high, 135 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: and you know what they did. They voted for Biden 136 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: anyway because they don't blame him for it. A lot 137 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: of Democrats say crime is too high. It is a 138 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: major problem, it's true, but they don't blame their mayor 139 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: or there's there's no consequences here is just to give 140 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: you an example, Mayor Eric Adams, who is sitting there 141 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: saying New York City cops don't think New York politicians 142 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: have their back Play twenty four. Does a New York 143 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: City cop feel like the politicians in New York have 144 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: their backs? No, they don't for the most part, but 145 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: they know they may he has their back. Well, what 146 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: needs to be done, though, so cops feel like New 147 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: York City officials have their back? What's a combination of things, 148 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: making sure they have the tools and the equipment that 149 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: they deserve, and don't immediately attack them based on what 150 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: you view on Instagram or social media because not the 151 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: reality was playing out in the street. You know how 152 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: we'll know if they if he has personal he doesn't 153 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: have their back. Every cop I talk to, every cop 154 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: I know, is like Adams is honestly almost as bad 155 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: as the Blasio, perhaps even in some ways worse than 156 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: the Blasio. And there's been no change whatsoever in the 157 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: way the city is really handling a lot of these 158 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: major issues. But people will say crime is really bad, Clay, 159 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: but I don't blame they or Eric Adams for it. 160 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:01,599 Speaker 1: They'll say crime is really bad in New York. I 161 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: don't blame Kathy Hko for it. I don't blame the 162 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: Democrat sorospased sorospacked prosecutors for it. Well, then what are 163 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: we even doing? I mean, like, if you're not going 164 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: to hold anyone accountable for problems, then are under their 165 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: purview that you know are really bad. But see what 166 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: I'm telling everybody is Democrats are delusional. The democracy is 167 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: in peril. Line which is laughable to an emotionally stable adult, 168 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: did motivate them to vote? It actually works? It actually 169 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: works because we've entered a post truth society. I really 170 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: do think this buck, by which I mean Democrats are 171 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: convinced that they are the good people and that their 172 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: moral authority is so sound that it doesn't matter who 173 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: they put forward. I mean John Feederick can barely speak, 174 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden clearly has dementia. He can barely read off 175 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: its heleprompter. Now, yet if they run Biden in twenty 176 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: twenty four, a huge swath of the American public is 177 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: going to go out and support him. And this is 178 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: emblematic where when I say we're in a post truth world, 179 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean that the consequences of clearly bad decisions. Joe 180 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: Biden made inflation far worse by embracing Democrat spending policies. 181 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: The border is wide open because of Democrat choices. The 182 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: crime rate, murder in particular and violent crime in general, 183 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: has skyrocketed because of anti police rhetoric. And it's so 184 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: bad that even our boy Joe Scarborough, who used to 185 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: laugh at the idea that crime was bad, that was 186 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: him asking the question of Eric Adams, hey, how come 187 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: cops don't feel like politicians have their backs? He's even 188 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: seen the light on this. But if there's no consequences 189 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: for failed policy decisions, then there is no actual democracy. 190 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: And this is my big thing, buck, How could you 191 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: vote Democrat given how many things Joe Biden has done 192 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: these failed on Yet yet we are still sitting here 193 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: waiting to see and I hope we're going to and 194 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: certainly the odds reflect that we're going to take the 195 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 1: house back. But things were so bad yet huge numbers 196 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: of Democrats still showed up to vote for Democrats even 197 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: though they're wrong on everything, And that I think is 198 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: how things have pivoted where it doesn't even matter. There 199 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: are no consequences for politicians that are wrong about the 200 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: most basic questions that are out there, and I don't 201 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: know how. It's like you need to grab somebody by 202 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: their shoulders and shake him. And that's why the whole 203 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: Trump angle is so fascinating to me. Buck, And we're 204 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna open up phone lines, by the way for you 205 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: guys eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two, 206 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of people that are convinced 207 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: he's hitler. Those people are going to show up and 208 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: vote against Donald Trump if he's the nominee in twenty 209 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: twenty four, no matter what right. They're not going to 210 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: suddenly say, oh, you know what, Trump was really good 211 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: on trade. Trump is really good for the economics, he 212 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 1: was right about he was right about almost everything. I 213 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: really do believe Trump. But is he such a lightning 214 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: rod that they have managed to brand him to such 215 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: an extent? And I know there are people out there 216 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: saying right now, listen to me saying, hey, I'm not 217 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: going to show up and vote for Republicans if Trump's 218 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: not the nominee. I understand that too, But what's the 219 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: calculus there? How much do you lose? I think that 220 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: it's and I saw this. I was in a unique 221 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: position at the time because I was doing uh, you know, 222 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: I was, you know, working at the Blaze. I'm trying 223 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: to remember my history here doing talk radio from the right, 224 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: but also at CNN as a contributor on politics when 225 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: they used to have conservatives on CNN, right, I was there, 226 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: Kelly mcineny was there. I mean, there's people they used 227 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: to be able to not anymore obviously, and Clay, what 228 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: I saw was Trump in twenty sixteen caught them by 229 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: surprise that the Democrat apparatus thought something else that no 230 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: one's been talking about. Democrats put money behind people that 231 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: they thought were bad candidates on the republic inside, and folks, 232 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: I hate to say it, in a number of cases 233 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: they were right. It was they worked. It was for 234 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: bad candidates this way. Yeah, you're right one hundred percent 235 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: about that. But here's the way that I would tell 236 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: it for people out there who maybe you don't get 237 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: it involved in tactics that much. If you are involved 238 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 1: in a game and the opposing team has a better 239 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: scheme than you, Let's say they're running the spread offense 240 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: and you're still running the wing t right, You're handing 241 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: off every play and they're throwing the ball fifty yards, 242 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: have no idea what's going on, but vaguely sure. Yes, 243 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: at some point you have to adopt the tactics of 244 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: your opponent if they have a better game plan. That 245 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: I understand. That I understand, and I think a lot 246 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: of people in our audience don't understand that Democrats right 247 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: now have superior tactics when it comes to getting votes 248 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: in for their candidates, such that the candidate quality doesn't 249 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: even matter. This is exactly what I'm saying. Look at that, 250 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: that's the Fetterman phenomenon. This would everyone have to take 251 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: from this. Okay, Yeah, we'll make jokes about how it's absurd, 252 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: but he won, and he won by a lot because 253 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: of what we're talking about here and what I wanted 254 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: to say about Trump will come back into this and look, 255 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: maybe it's Trump, maybe it's De Santists. We'll see how 256 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: that all plays out. I'm happy that, you know, De 257 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: Santists just had the biggest red wave in Florida in history, 258 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: and he's the best governor that any of us have 259 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: ever seen in our lifetimes. That's good, Okay, Clay. The 260 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen Trump maneuver will not work in twenty twenty four. 261 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: Now that I'm not saying that Trump can't win in 262 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, I'm not even saying he'll be the nominee. 263 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: I'm just saying anybody who thinks that the rallies and 264 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: the twitter and is gonna be enough, it will not. 265 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: They adapted, we didn't. They used to run Trump on CNN. 266 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: They gave him billions of dollars of free advertising because 267 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: they thought it was a joke. It wasn't a joke. 268 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: He won. We need to adapt our tactics. That's what 269 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: we're trying to get out here. We need to look 270 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: at what they're doing that works. We'll come back into 271 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: this in just a second. And look, I'm thinking about 272 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: calling my mom at this and she's hearing this on 273 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: radio with nollise of people. But you know, they've got 274 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: all these amazing videos from when we were kids. They 275 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: raised four kids in the videocam era, my mom and dad. 276 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: So there's all these Christmases and Halloweens. I think I 277 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: was dressed up as a dinosaur in one of these videos. 278 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: My dad has these these. He was the guy with 279 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: the video camera at Christmas who's like, do you love 280 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: your president? I was like, yes, I love my president. 281 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: We have those videos, but they're in storage somewhere on sometime. 282 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: My mom, look, it's been years. We got to get 283 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: them transferred onto digital because they're disintegrating. So yes, Mom, 284 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. We need you go through some of these 285 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: boxes and get some of these great memories for the 286 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: family sent in to my friends at Legacy Box. 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Hey, thanks for taking my call. 306 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: I just want to make a comment that for people 307 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: I talk to, the reason a lot of them voted 308 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: Gemma Pratt was because they just hate Donald Trump and 309 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: they couldn't vote Republicans. And I talked to a lot 310 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: of younger people and older people and it's sad. They 311 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: didn't care about the issues at all. They just they 312 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: couldn't vote for Donald Trump. And I'd say, you know, 313 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's not running and they didn't care, and it's sad, 314 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: but they put him on the ballot. Car Let's thank 315 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: you Debbie for calling. I appreciate you. In Buffalo real quick, 316 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 1: Carlo in Virginia we got about thirty seconds playing Buck 317 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: real quick. I just wanted to say that I think 318 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: that Trump is digging his own hole for another presidential run. 319 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: He needs to stop with the childish name calling because 320 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. I voted for him twice and then greatly 321 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: admire his successes while he was president. But if he's 322 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: going to act like this, I don't want him to 323 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: run again. He needs to stop talking about the twenty 324 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: twenty election. 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And we're joined now by Fox 350 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: News contributor and a longtime investigative journalist, Sarah Carter, who 351 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: has a special called Darkweb the Border. Sarah, let's start 352 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: right here breaking news that there may be some consequences 353 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: finally for what's going on with the border failures in 354 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: the Biden administration. What can you tell us about those? 355 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: How does it impact Secretary Mayorcus. Where are we standing 356 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: right now as it pertains to the border and the 357 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 1: Biden administration may be acknowledging that it's a disaster, Well, yes, 358 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: because it is a disaster. And we know that for 359 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: a long time there have been a number of complaints 360 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: over the past year with the job performance of US 361 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: Customs and Border Protection Chief Chris Magnus. And now we 362 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: know today based on not only on Brandon Judd, who 363 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: is confirming he is the head of the National Border 364 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: Patrol Council, but others, that Chris Magnus is being forced 365 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: out after less than one year on the job. And 366 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: this has been a complaint that's been ongoing for the year. 367 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: But look, this just doesn't fall on Chris Magnus. This 368 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: is a Biden administration policy. It was a Biden administration 369 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: who created this chaos at the border, and I believe 370 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: purposefully and Magnus is actually paying the price for that. 371 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: I'd be interested to see in what he says, if 372 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: he says anything after he's fired, because I believe that. 373 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: You know, like all the border patrol agents that I've 374 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: spoken with off the record, Buck, everybody who I've talked 375 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: to while I'm on the border, and I was just 376 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: there this week for the whole week, you know, they 377 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: have been basically told to stand down. I mean, they 378 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: go in, they they have the encounters, they make the apprehensions, 379 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: and then they're asked to release people into the country. 380 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: So they're basically a part of the process of illegal immigration. 381 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: And this is what the Biden administration is created. And 382 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: now we're seeing some action here because I think the 383 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: pressure from the American people, particularly the pressure from people 384 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: living along the border, and that even comes from Democrats 385 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: that are along the border, Henry quaire as being one 386 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: of them, you know, speaking to the Biden administration saying 387 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: that his constituents just can't take it anymore. And the 388 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: number of deaths that have happened across this country because 389 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: of illistic counterfeit pills made with Sentinel and over one 390 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: hundred and seven thousand deaths, Americans losing their life. I 391 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: think that the Biden administration finally said, Okay, well, we 392 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: got to do something here, We got to act like 393 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: we're doing something. And they started with Chris Magnus, who 394 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: had a really terrible reputation unfortunately among the border patrol agents. 395 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: They felt that he just never paid any attention, never 396 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: did his job, was always asleep at the wheel. And 397 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: so now he's out. It'll be interesting to see who 398 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: takes his place. Hey, Sarah, it's Buck. You know you 399 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: and I've known each other now for over a decade, 400 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: and I know when you were doing coverage of Afghanistan. 401 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: You were in Afghanistan, you were on the front lines 402 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: there as a journalist, and you've been down covering the border. 403 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: You're affluent Spanish speaker for many years. I've been down 404 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: in Central America seeing the beginnings of the caravans, and 405 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: you have a lot of familiarity with the cartels. What 406 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: is do you just just give everybody listening because you 407 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: know they're seeing some of the stories obviously that are 408 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: that are day in and day out in their communities 409 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: about the fentanyl overdoses, about you know, a five million 410 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: or a ten million dollar fentanyl seizure is just just 411 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: another day at the border. How powerful are the cartels 412 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: right now and how much are they taking advantage of 413 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 1: this Biden administration open border? Oh, there's it's horrific, Buck 414 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: and Travis, it's horrific. I mean to say the least. 415 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: I've spent time, you know, and as you well listed 416 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: out a lot of my time on the border over 417 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: eighteen years working on the US Mexico border, as well 418 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: as I believe the nexus between having a chaotic open 419 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: border and the nexus with terrorism and people that want 420 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: to enter our country under the radar, which the border 421 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: is a perfect place, especially with so many loopholes and 422 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: being so porous, you know right now. But I can 423 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: tell you this if you look at just fentinol in 424 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: and of itself, and what the cartels have been able 425 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: to amass hundreds of billions of dollars. I'm talking the 426 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 1: Sinaloa cartel. It doesn't matter chopos and custody here, but 427 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: the Sinaloa cartel is running and raring to go because 428 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: we have allowed them to, because we are allowing them 429 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: to not only traffic humans which seems to be their 430 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: biggest bank for their buck right now, trafficking of humans, 431 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: young children, but also fentinol which can be brought in 432 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: and you made it very clear, hundreds of thousands of pills, 433 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: millions of pills being brought into this country. And what 434 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: we get, what we actually apprehended the border is just 435 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: a small percentage of what is being transported into the 436 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 1: United States. Not only that, but we're looking at our adversaries, 437 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: nations like China. This is what I talk about in 438 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: Dark Words The Border. It's a podcast series where our 439 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: second part of a series is about to come out 440 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: this week, and the focus is on China, and it's 441 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: how our adversaries like China are moving precursor chemicals into Mexico, 442 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: into Central America and allowing the drug cartels to basically 443 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: use those precursors to manufacture the fentanyl to then ship 444 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: these counterfeit pills into the United States. And I want 445 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: to tell you this is not about addiction, folks. I 446 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: want everyone to understand this. This is about setting loose 447 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: counterfeit pills that look like percoset, They look like any 448 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: kind of opioid that you would get from your doctor, 449 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: adderall other types of medicine that are now out on 450 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: our streets and people are taking them, and they are dying, 451 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: and they are not expecting to die, and they are 452 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: not expecting to be taking Sentinel. They're not expecting to 453 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: be taking these pills. So this is actually murder. And 454 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: if you talk to people in the DA in my 455 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: podcast series, I talk to people like Daniel Hoffman, who 456 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: is former head of the SEA, was the CIA station chief. 457 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: I talked to Gordon Chang, who's a China expert. I 458 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: go out on the border. I'm on the beat with 459 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: our border patrol agents, with our Texas Department of Public Safety, 460 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: with our local law enforcement as they try with the 461 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: minimal resources, and you know this, fuck you know this, Travis, 462 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: How they work day in and day out, putting their 463 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: lives on the line with their hands tied behind their 464 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: back because an administration is refusing to do its job 465 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: to protect the American public. And that's what they see. 466 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,719 Speaker 1: But despite that, they go out there every single day 467 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: and night. I was just out there last night with them, 468 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: working until two am, you know, out in the field, 469 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: watching them try to interdict people that are ninety miles 470 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: in already. These are the people that want to evade 471 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement and the danger that they put themselves in 472 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: as they try to apprehend these people. So it's a 473 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: complex issue. It's affecting every single American. It's not just 474 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: a border issue, Buck, it is an issue that every 475 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: single American and every mom and dad needs to be 476 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: paying attention to. We have lost so many young people 477 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: and so many young people are losing their lives coming in. 478 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: It's actually it's a tragedy all the way around. We 479 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: also have a humanitarian crisis, so that's why this project 480 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: is so important to me. You know, I feel it's 481 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: a place where people can go on their own time, 482 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,239 Speaker 1: where they can learn, where they can educate themselves, and 483 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: where I can take them on that journey with me. 484 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's hard. You can't do it on television 485 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: in two or three minutes, you can't always do it 486 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: in a short interview. But I can develop a format 487 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,679 Speaker 1: dark Wars, you know, the Border, and give them that 488 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to go on this journey with me and really 489 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: understand how devastatingly dangerous the border is. Can't wait to 490 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: check it out. Sarah. We appreciate you giving us the time, 491 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: the documentary Dark Web the Border. She's Fox News contributor, 492 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: longtime investigative journalist, Sarah Cardiff. You want to know more 493 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 1: about the border, you need to hit that. Thank you, Sarah, 494 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Travison Buck 495 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: great to be with you. Well, you do have three 496 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: first names. Sometimes people like to use all of them. 497 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: Office chair is incredibly important, you know, whether you're in 498 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: your office or whether you're at home. So many of 499 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: us right now are in a position where we're constantly 500 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: trying to think, Man, how can I be a little 501 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: bit more efficient, a little bit more effective. Well, the 502 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: chair you use can go a long way towards making 503 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: you feel better at the end of the day. What 504 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: if your chair could have heating, What if it could 505 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: have a massage, What if it could also cool you off? 506 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: That's the X chair. It's the best chair out there. 507 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: Buck and I both use these all day long, and 508 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,959 Speaker 1: if you spend any amount of time, this has become 509 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: your chair of choice. And now we got an incredible offer. 510 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: You could own an X chair. It's the best office 511 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 1: chair in the world. For just twenty dollars a month, 512 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: less than a dollar a day. 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That's the letter X chair Clay dot com. 522 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: No other chair can compare to x chair you're looking 523 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: out there right now for the holiday season. Great offers, 524 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: great gifts. Go check it out right now. X chairclay 525 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:52,200 Speaker 1: dot Com one more time, X Chairclay dot Com. Clay 526 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: and Buck here going strong, and Clay is gonna be 527 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: h it was in Phoenix right now right Clay is 528 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: gonna let at me take charge here for the third hour. 529 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: He's throwing me to the uncle. Clay is throwing me 530 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: the keys, the maserati. He's said, wreck it, you know, 531 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: keep it under a hundred. You know. I will say 532 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: one thing about Florida. One thing I've learned about Florida 533 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: from my many many trips and visits. If you don't 534 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: go thirty miles an hour over the speed limit, you're 535 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: gonna get flattened by a dude in a lifted pickup truck. 536 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: Like it. The speed limit down here is as a 537 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: whole other thing. And I'd just say in New York, 538 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: I remember, I mean, you know, the New York part 539 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: of my brain. A guy who was coming to visit 540 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: my family, who was a friend of my dad's a 541 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: long time ago. He was super late for lunch. Like 542 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: what happened. We found out he got arrested. He got 543 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: arrested driving up to the Hudson Valley to visit us, 544 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: and it was because I think he was going twenty 545 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: six miles an hour, or maybe there was some level 546 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: in New York where it's reckless endangerment if you go 547 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: above it. And the cop was like, buddy, you're going 548 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: twenty five or twenty six miles and not to make cuffs. 549 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, took him down to the station for speeding. 550 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: Oh wow, so different, so different, so in New York. 551 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: And also by the I'm sure the fine was, like, 552 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: you know, eight hundred dollars or something for the speeding 553 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: ticket is crazy. Anyway, it's it's a very very different thing. 554 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: But I will not wreck the maserati of the show, Clay. 555 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: I will make sure that we keep it in pristine 556 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: condition while you head out and take Harrison business. In 557 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: the third hour, we got a few calls. I wanted 558 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: to get to Tom and Atlanta. I'm sorry in Atlanta, 559 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: says he thinks, Well, Tom, why don't you tell us 560 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: what you think down in Atlanta? Yeah, I appreciate a 561 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: gentleman and mega dittos. This Governor Decantis versus Donald Trump matchup. 562 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: People keep talking about it like it seems inevitable, but 563 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: that really assumes the Santis engages and announces that he runs. 564 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: Seen a couple of thoughts on that. I think Decantis 565 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: has really shown that he's another America First guy, a 566 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: team player something nationwide for Republicans, some endorsed by Trump, 567 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: like Carrie Lake, and some not, like Joe Dane Colorado. 568 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: And it's not because the Santis is planting is own flag, 569 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: but because those candidates were better for their states in 570 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: the nation than their Democrat opponents, and so too. Donald 571 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: Trump already has one hundred and fifty candidates or more 572 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 1: to be sworn into office next year at this election 573 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: that he endorsed across the board, and it's his party 574 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: now more than ever, and there's really no need to 575 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: fall into a trap and tear apart at the party 576 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: by making this big rivalry. And finally, I think De 577 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Santis is probably going to sit out until Donald Trump 578 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: decides that he himself is not running for president, even 579 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: if he has to wait until twenty twenty eight. Because 580 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: Decantis is only forty four years old, he had decades 581 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: ahead of him. And in the meantime, I just hope 582 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: that every Republican kind of looks to him for tips 583 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: on how to fight back liberally them on every front, 584 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: from state offices, redrawing state districts, endorsing candidates on school boards, 585 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: and fighting back what companies like Disney was a really 586 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: good call. I just want to say, I want to 587 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: hand this to you, Clay. I just want to say, 588 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm like taking a little break from the predictions game 589 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: for a couple of days year after the mid term, 590 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: but you go ahead. I just I think every politician 591 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: believes there's a time to write for them to run, 592 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: and I believe that Ron DeSantis believes his time is now, 593 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: so I will be very surprised if he doesn't run. Similarly, 594 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if Trump didn't run. And I've 595 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: been on this for at least a year on this 596 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: show saying hey, I think this is setting up for 597 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: Trump versus de Santis. I think you can see the 598 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: way that Trump is attacking De Santis that Trump also 599 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: believes DeSantis is going to run. And I would just 600 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: point to the debate that you were at Buck DeSantis 601 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: was directly asked, will you say that you will not 602 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: run for president in twenty twenty four. Some politicians lie 603 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: even if they think they're going to run for president, 604 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: just say no, I'm focused on being governor of you 605 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: know this state right now, or senator or congressman, whatever 606 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: it is. DeSantis didn't answer he's going to run now. 607 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a knockdown Donnie Brook 608 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: between the two of them, and I think it's going 609 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: to get nasty. And a lot of people are reacting 610 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: to this. Yeah, you say this luck is a donny Brook? 611 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: You don't know that phrase? No, No, I mean I 612 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: just play speak like you know, no doubt, But like, 613 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 1: what is it donny Brook? It's like a it's a 614 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: fight without any rules, is my way that it would 615 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: be predicted. It's like a a street fight. Like it's 616 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: not like you're in a boxing ring and you get 617 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: rewarded points for this punch or that punch. It's a 618 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: nasty fight. Um, And so I think a nasty fight 619 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: here now, by the way I checked it, um, And 620 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: it is thirty miles an hour over the limit in 621 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: New York State is considered reckless endangerment. You can be arrested. 622 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: So that guy was going thirty miles an hour over. 623 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: But I always remembered that because I'm telling you this. 624 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 1: Down on the roadways in some places in this country, 625 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: thirty miles an hour over the post and limit, the 626 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: state troopers are like, man, as long as you're not swerving, 627 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: they don't really seem to care very much. Um, so 628 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: we have well, oh, here we go. It's comes from 629 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: I also want to check this out. The name donnie 630 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: comes from the donnie Brook fair Play, a notoriously disorderly 631 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 1: event held annually from twelve o four until the middle 632 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: of the nineteenth century. The town of donnie Brook comes 633 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: from the Irish domnach Bru. That's my best version of Gaelic, 634 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 1: which is not a good version of it. Um. But yeah, 635 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: so it's apparently a like a fair, almost like a 636 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: state fair from the twelve hundreds, where people there was 637 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: some fighting, people just beat the crap out of each other. 638 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: Isn't it also an awesome word? I just think it's 639 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: it's way better than brawl to me, Like you could say, hey, 640 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a nasty brawl, but donnie Brook sounds 641 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: like such a cooler way to to use that phrase. 642 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: So anyway, I think it's gonna be a Donnie Brook 643 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: and maybe nobody else is gonna use that word. Now, 644 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: you got it? What do we have here? You got 645 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: somebody else? We want to go to? Dave and Granite Falls, 646 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:54,439 Speaker 1: North Carols. Yeah, hey, great, great show, guys. That's all 647 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: the Gaelic I know. Um, this thing with Romp it's 648 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: really bugged me because I voted for him, and when 649 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: I lived in Florida, I voted for bronzes Antis and 650 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: I'd really like to see them work together and unite 651 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 1: the party. And you're right, this is going to be 652 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: a knock down, drag out. And I was telling a 653 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: screener I can't see voting for him if he makes 654 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: it to the final or in the primary. But if 655 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: sorry you said him, who is him? Is it DeSantis 656 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 1: or Trump? Okay? If Trump made it to the final, 657 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: let's say I like the sports analogies, I would probably 658 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: vote for him because what is our other choice? But unfortunately, 659 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of people that won't vote 660 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: for Trump, just like there's probably gonna be a lot 661 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: of people that won't vote for DeSantis. I mean, so 662 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: I would think, you know, I've put myself in the 663 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: category right now, and keep in mind, we're talking about 664 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 1: something that's two years away. I mean, if whoever the 665 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: Republican nominee is, I'll back him one hundred, one hundred 666 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: and ten percent. And that's just that's how I see 667 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: this with the country at stake. But I understand that 668 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: for the purposes of trying to assess where this is 669 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: all heading, who is likely to get people that are 670 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: a little squishier about these things, you know, a little 671 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: less that could be a challenge to the point about 672 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: tactics and getting the best votes out. But I'm you know, 673 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm ride or die with the GOP nominee. I think 674 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: almost all of our GOP winner not nominee, you know 675 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, whoever the nominee is going to end 676 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: up being. I think we'll win in twenty twenty four. 677 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm optimistic against Biden, but I think it's going to 678 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: be really nasty between now and then. Thank you for 679 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: everybody out here, great hospitality and Phoenix. I'll be back 680 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: with you Monday. Buck, you got the final hour of 681 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: your show coming up. Get arrested. Don't get arrested to 682 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: get arrested. Keep it at thirty miles an hour under 683 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: the limit, and no drunken Donnie Brooks, while Clay has 684 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: gone stick around. We're coming right back.