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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you watched this game last night. We didn't
Speaker 2: think it was gonna be much, but the Jets did
Speaker 2: a great job. Aaron Rodgers looked unbelievable. Aaron Rodgers to
Speaker 2: eighty one passing yards, two touchdown. The Jets defense recorded
Speaker 2: seven sacks, and at the end, Drake May got an
Speaker 2: opportunity to play. And you know what, it might be
Speaker 2: a sign of things to come because you kind of
Speaker 2: know what you're gonna get with Jakobe Brissett. You just
Speaker 2: one of the rook learn a little bit. You was
Speaker 2: kind of hoping probably Brissette could get a little farther
Speaker 2: into the season. Oh joke, But it doesn't look like it.
Speaker 2: But you know what you're gonna get Jakobe Brisset. He's
Speaker 2: not changing anybody's life. But give the Jets credit tonight
Speaker 2: they look really good. Aaron Rodgers look good like he
Speaker 2: normally do, like he normally does. Now he looks like
Speaker 2: the Aaron Rodgers that we saw in Green.
Speaker 5: Bay, Yes, he does.
Speaker 3: What did you like? What did you like most about
Speaker 3: what you saw from the Jets tonight?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what I like.
Speaker 6: What I saw most from the Jets is the consistency
Speaker 6: of their offense. Now there was a little law obviously
Speaker 6: in the third and fourth quarter, but the first and
Speaker 6: second quarter they look good going up and down the field,
Speaker 6: being able to run the ball, having a consistent balance
Speaker 6: of running pass. Yeah, girl, Wilson looks very good. Y,
Speaker 6: Mike looks good. The running game looks good. Now, this
Speaker 6: is the Jets that people were expected to see if
Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers didn't get hurt last year.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 6: So with him being held now, he made me a
Speaker 6: little nervous sometimes every time he scrambled outside of the
Speaker 6: damn pocket and go out there and run and I'm like,
Speaker 6: it's like I'm holding my breath a little bit. You know,
Speaker 6: the keys is messed up. But again, something that other
Speaker 6: quarterbacks need to learned, like to it. Every time he
Speaker 6: got off the pocket was the first thing, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 6: did you get down first? Get a first get down?
Speaker 6: He first get down? Other than that, man, they look
Speaker 6: phenomenal in that defense. Yeah, you know, they didn't look
Speaker 6: good last week, but this week he looked much better.
Speaker 6: And the fact that this Patriot team that I just
Speaker 6: saw the night beat my goddamn.
Speaker 5: Bengals at home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wek one.
Speaker 5: I don't know what's going I don't know what you
Speaker 5: know what is going on.
Speaker 6: But listen, if you're a Jet fan, if you're in
Speaker 6: the chat and you're a Jet fan, even if you're
Speaker 6: not a fan of Aaron Rodgers, because of some all
Speaker 6: the all the extra currical activities he talks about and
Speaker 6: does off the field, the young man, this is the
Speaker 6: reason why they.
Speaker 5: Put it with his bullshit, and he gave you example
Speaker 5: of that tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, O Joe.
Speaker 2: When I watched this game, I'm looking at the Patriots
Speaker 2: and I'm thinking to myself, y'all had a game plan,
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, I got it. Can't run. The last thing
Speaker 2: you want to do is let Aaron Rodgers get outside
Speaker 2: of the pocket and throw the ball. That's where he's
Speaker 2: most dangerous. He made his bones. He's a four time
Speaker 2: league MVP. Yes, Aaron Rodgers can throw the ball from
Speaker 2: the pocket. He's one of the most prolific throwers of
Speaker 2: the football that we've ever seen. But he's most dangerous
Speaker 2: outside of the pocket. That's what you do to a
Speaker 2: Tom Brady. You forced Tom Brady off his mark. Yes,
Speaker 2: Tom is accurate outside of the pocket, but he's not
Speaker 2: as accurate outside of the pocket as he is in
Speaker 2: the pocket.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is the flip side.
Speaker 2: Yes, Aaron can beat you from the pocket, but you
Speaker 2: would much rather have him because you don't want to
Speaker 2: give him that kind of time once he escapes the pocket.
Speaker 3: Now he can't run like he wants.
Speaker 2: He couldn't run like he could when he was twenty eight,
Speaker 2: thirty two, he's forty nine. We understand that, but his
Speaker 2: arm is still just as dangerous. And if you let
Speaker 2: him by time outside of the pocket. And we know
Speaker 2: this about Aaron, if you studied his career, he loved
Speaker 2: throwing the ball to the tight end. And this tight
Speaker 2: end came up with some big catches on third down
Speaker 2: to keep the chains going, give them an opportunity to
Speaker 2: stay on the field get three more downs. But I
Speaker 2: didn't really like the game plan. Of the Patriots because
Speaker 2: they let Aaron get outside to his left. They let
Speaker 2: him get outside to his right. That is a game
Speaker 2: plan that you have for a stationary quarterback. Tom Brady,
Speaker 2: a Peyton, Manny or Kirk Cousins. Yeah, yeah, I ain't
Speaker 2: worried about y'all going nowhere. So I'm just gonna make
Speaker 2: sure I'm gonna get you off your mark in the pocket.
Speaker 2: But when you look at you, look at them. They
Speaker 2: ran the ball, okay, not great, not great, not great,
Speaker 2: They ran the ball.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: The defense did what they were supposed to do. What
Speaker 2: I think was an overmax team. You're dominating, You're dominating.
Speaker 2: That's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: A team that you're better than, you supposed to come
Speaker 2: out of the game feeling that you're better than.
Speaker 3: Not like, man, I.
Speaker 2: Wish we had played better. We're supposed to beat that
Speaker 2: team by X amount of points. So when you play
Speaker 2: somebody and you got and you're better, damn there across
Speaker 2: the board, this is what you're supposed to do. Now,
Speaker 2: they missed the field goal, and I'm sure there's there's
Speaker 2: some things that Aaron and the offensive staff is gonna
Speaker 2: look at like, you know what, guy, we probably should
Speaker 2: have had another ten fourteen points. Yeah, easy, And you
Speaker 2: know we feel a lot I mean, we feel good,
Speaker 2: but we feel a lot better about ourselves. I think
Speaker 2: that's the thing that the coaches that I really appreciate
Speaker 2: about a lot of the coaches that I played for.
Speaker 3: Oh so that even when we won the game, he's.
Speaker 2: Like, we're gonna go back and watch the field because
Speaker 2: there are some things that we can do a lot
Speaker 2: better to make sure that we're clicking on off celinders.
Speaker 3: Everything going okay.
Speaker 2: But the Jets, you know, you now you get ten days,
Speaker 2: you don't play a game until the following Sunday.
Speaker 3: You get some time off.
Speaker 2: You played a lot of games in the first eleveny
Speaker 2: you know, because they had a Monday night game, then
Speaker 2: they played a Sunday, and then they came and played
Speaker 2: a Thursday.
Speaker 3: So you look at them, out of three games in
Speaker 3: a span of eleven days, that's a lot.
Speaker 2: That's a lot on a forty year old body. And
Speaker 2: so give your credit for going go ahead.
Speaker 3: One thing.
Speaker 6: You know, Aaron ain't practicing. You know, you know you're practicing.
Speaker 6: He definitely if somebody gonna take some.
Speaker 5: Time off it's gonna be him.
Speaker 6: I don't know who the backup quarterback is or whoever
Speaker 6: the number two quarterback is for the Jets.
Speaker 3: But he gonna get.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, yeah, ty tyrod and he is
Speaker 6: some reps in this week because Aaron Rodgers is taking.
Speaker 5: All that off.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, oh Joe, they probably
Speaker 2: won't be back till Monday. So you get Friday off,
Speaker 2: Saturday off, Sunday off, I see y'all, Monday, get a
Speaker 2: lift there off Tuesday week back at this thing on Wednesday.
Speaker 7: Ye.
Speaker 2: So, and I think that's the that's that's the proper step.
Speaker 2: And probably this week everything was all walked through. Ain't
Speaker 2: nobody doing no? I mean your body, I mean, because
Speaker 2: you know how sore you are, man. You play a
Speaker 2: game on Sunday, man, you sor till Wednesday. So they
Speaker 2: got there's a lot of film studies, a lot of
Speaker 2: film study, a lot of walk through.
Speaker 3: But the Jets what the tour two in one right now?
Speaker 2: The three and eleven games, I mean eleven days, three games,
Speaker 2: eleven days, so you have to feel good. Yeah, you'd
Speaker 2: be loved to be three and oh with ten days off,
Speaker 2: but you have to feel good. You won this game
Speaker 2: on a short week. Your offense look good. They're starting
Speaker 2: to pick up steam. Aaron is starting to figure out
Speaker 2: what his guys how they liked the ball in game
Speaker 2: situations because you can practice an but game and practice
Speaker 2: is a lot different. And you saw some of the
Speaker 2: throws that he was making. He's as good as with
Speaker 2: the back, with the back, show the ball as we've
Speaker 2: had in this league and at any point time in
Speaker 2: their career. You see him hit Garrett Wilson with his
Speaker 2: back showed the ball. You see him here, Mike, Mike,
Speaker 2: who's that? Mike, who's that? You know that Garrett whilst
Speaker 2: on the touchdown?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought, yeah the first Gonzales Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hit Lazar Lazarre, steam rolled his way into the
Speaker 2: n zone. And then what the second touchdown or second
Speaker 2: or third touchdown? He hit Garrett Wilson, who did a
Speaker 2: great job. I think the only thing that Gonzales made
Speaker 2: oh show. You know when you're on the inside, you
Speaker 2: can't reach like this, reached like that reached, Yes, you
Speaker 2: reach your body and you know, trying to make a play,
Speaker 2: I mean trying to make a play. You're down, you're desperate,
Speaker 2: and you try to make a play. That's the only
Speaker 2: thing that will say, that's the only thing I will
Speaker 2: see with Gonzales. Look, I'm not no great dB, but
Speaker 2: I'm probably sure time or what did the revs or
Speaker 2: what are those other guys will tell you the same thing.
Speaker 2: When you're coming from the inside right, you reached like that.
Speaker 2: But other than that, he ran a great route, Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers threw a great ball, was a great ball, is
Speaker 2: gonna be great coverage anyway, So it might have not
Speaker 2: even made a difference. But give Rogers, give this office
Speaker 2: created twenty forty three, probably saying I'm sure they're kicking
Speaker 2: them selling that man. Probably thirty four three, thirty four,
Speaker 2: thirty eight three. We feel a lot better about ourself.
Speaker 3: That's what That's what it should have been.
Speaker 5: Miss field go.
Speaker 3: Remember that mister field goal at not the half.
Speaker 6: Not only in missis field go is the half? But
Speaker 6: the penalty is taking him back out of field goal
Speaker 6: range twelve. Yeah, missing some of those points that they
Speaker 6: could have had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is that if you look at it,
Speaker 2: Brailin Allen again, fourteen touch no, fourteen touches sixty eight yards,
Speaker 2: so thirty four for that's a buck fifty one, that's
Speaker 2: not bad. Thirty four four a buck fifty one a
Speaker 2: little over four yards the carria. So they ran the
Speaker 2: ball better than I thought they did, because it seems
Speaker 2: like every time I looked running to the line, they
Speaker 2: would get stopped.
Speaker 3: So I guess I mean, so when you look at it, Ojo.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's a lot of carries and they're doing
Speaker 2: a great mixing it up because we know Aeron is
Speaker 2: great off the play fake, great off the pay play fake,
Speaker 2: and you can have those, you know, you get the
Speaker 2: ball down the field, and he's great at the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. They gave him a lot of leeway. He
Speaker 2: knows this offfense backwards and forwards, so he has a
Speaker 2: lot of leeway at the line of scrimmage. But I
Speaker 2: like this two headed monster with Breeze Hall and Brayland Allen.
Speaker 2: They can run the ball. They're only gonna get better,
Speaker 2: especially when the weather gets get bad. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 2: not gonna impact Rogers because he coming from Lambeau, so
Speaker 2: it's not like he's coming from Miami or La somewhere
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden it's gonna be hard. He
Speaker 2: know what, it's like to play in the coal. He
Speaker 2: knows how to get his body ready, how to spend
Speaker 2: the football in the coal. But they might be a
Speaker 2: situation where they gonna they're gonna be They can be
Speaker 2: an issue. They can be an issue for somebody, especially
Speaker 2: once they get this thing going, because they can play
Speaker 2: coverage in the back end with those two corners, the
Speaker 2: defense can get out your Quinny william h or what
Speaker 2: is that McDonald. I think that's the guy that they
Speaker 2: brought in in place of Hassan Reddick, and I think
Speaker 2: he has four or five OJO.
Speaker 3: He's played extremely well.
Speaker 2: So I think that's the thing where they're like, okay,
Speaker 2: we got a guy that got in three games, got
Speaker 2: five sacks.
Speaker 3: Let's not make a.
Speaker 2: Rash decision and pay him side ready twenty plus million dollars. Now,
Speaker 2: had he not had those numbers, O Joe, that might
Speaker 2: be a different story. But you know how ride receiver
Speaker 2: holding out the number two receivers going crazy.
Speaker 3: So in three games he got three hundred yards, the
Speaker 3: three touchdown. Let's just hold on.
Speaker 2: Let's see if we can go another week, cause you
Speaker 2: know how teams thank Ojo. Aaron Rodgers touchdown past the
Speaker 2: garret Wilsonocho in the third quarter was its four hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty of his career. It was one of the
Speaker 2: first he's thrown to a wide receiver drafted in the
Speaker 2: first round. Look, he's gonna have five hundred touchdowns, which
Speaker 2: is which is a bench? I mean three hundred used
Speaker 2: to be three hundred was the gold standard. Comes before
Speaker 2: these guys started throwing routinely for thirty and forty touchdowns.
Speaker 3: And then we had a couple of guys hit fifty touchdown.
Speaker 2: Mahomes hit fifty, Brady's hit fifty, Manning gets hit fifty.
Speaker 3: Manning has also hit forty nine.
Speaker 2: Now the standard if you don't throw for four hundred
Speaker 2: five hundred touchdowns, three hundred touchdowns ain't the same. It's
Speaker 2: like a baseball player the number you hit five hundred
Speaker 2: home runs and you back three hundred. Now, hell, you
Speaker 2: got to have back three hundred, have five hundred home
Speaker 2: runs and three hundred stolen bases in order for people
Speaker 2: like well, he had a good career. But Rogers is
Speaker 2: gonna throw for five hundred touchdowns and with the as
Speaker 2: fewer interceptions and he's gonna throw for he might be
Speaker 2: in a situation I don't think he has one hundred interceptions.
Speaker 3: Does he have one hundred interceptions yet?
Speaker 5: Ask?
Speaker 2: I don't think he does four hundred and eighty touchdowns
Speaker 2: with fewer than one hundred interceptions. Let them seek in
Speaker 2: because I think he has like a forty one TV
Speaker 2: to touchdown interction interception ratio, which is crazy.
Speaker 3: Two to one you can live with.
Speaker 5: Mm oh, you.
Speaker 3: Got one of six, he got one O six, O Joe.
Speaker 2: For eighty to one O six, he still got the
Speaker 2: highest touchdown to interception ratio with the lowest what high
Speaker 2: touchdown lower interception.
Speaker 3: So he has that best in in the history because.
Speaker 2: He there are times that he would the whole season
Speaker 2: throwing forty plus touchdown in single digit interception. He might
Speaker 2: not have more than two seasons in which he has
Speaker 2: had thrown double digit touchdown I mean interceptions, which is crazy,
Speaker 2: which is crazy to just go to show you how
Speaker 2: good he is. Oh my bad, oh Joe, he has three.
Speaker 5: It's funny.
Speaker 6: It's funny how the landscape of the A s c
Speaker 6: S has shifted down completely totally shifted. Now it was
Speaker 6: always dominated obviously, always always consistently dominated by the Patriots.
Speaker 6: How things they have changed everything there shifted back going
Speaker 6: the head coach is.
Speaker 5: Going to be on the top forever. Yeah, you're right,
Speaker 5: but it was on there for a long time.
Speaker 2: Yas Okay, Yeah, I mean that's that's a long time
Speaker 2: nobody's nobody's had a run. And maybe you got to
Speaker 2: go back to the forty nine ers. Oh show, when
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers in the eighties, when they ran
Speaker 2: the NFC West, you had the Rams, you had the Falcons,
Speaker 2: you had the same. People don't realize that was way
Speaker 2: long time ago. But the Falcons, the Ram, the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers and the Saints. We're in the NFC West. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the forty nine ers ran that division, right, but
Speaker 2: they didn't run it like what the what the Patriots
Speaker 2: did from two thousand until until Brady left it?
Speaker 3: What a division? Damn near every.
Speaker 5: Year that that that's crazy. So you know what now?
Speaker 6: I mean, obviously Aaron Rodgers, based on where he at
Speaker 6: whees adding his career, like, I think they have a
Speaker 6: chance to dominate the AFC East, especially depending on how
Speaker 6: long it takes tour to get back, how far behind
Speaker 6: the Dolphins are in the division as well, and how
Speaker 6: well they can do with Tyler Hunty and Scotland Thompson.
Speaker 6: There's a chance that they got what about flow Listen.
Speaker 6: I love Josh Allen, Right, I love Josh Allen. Excuse me,
Speaker 6: I love Josh Allen. I don't think he has enough pieces.
Speaker 6: I love I love Kean Coleman. I love everything they have,
Speaker 6: but I don't think he has he has enough pieces
Speaker 6: to be able to compete.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he has to do too much.
Speaker 6: I think he's gonna have to put he's gonna have
Speaker 6: to shoulder the entire load.
Speaker 5: I don't think he has enough. Well, no disrespect to him.
Speaker 6: Obviously they're playing roll right now, but I'm talking about
Speaker 6: You'll see what happened when they played the Jets.
Speaker 2: You'll see what I mean. He made the thing when
Speaker 2: you look at he ask your care. He has those
Speaker 2: two tight ends Dawson, Knatson, Kink you mentioned Coleman. They
Speaker 2: can run the football a little bit with James Cook,
Speaker 2: I forget the other running back. Yeah, but the thing
Speaker 2: is when you got that quarterback, you always have a chance.
Speaker 2: That's all you need is him. When you got him, Mojoe,
Speaker 2: you got a chance. And he's one of those guys
Speaker 2: that give you a chance to win every single game.
Speaker 2: That's what makes that's what makes those guys so special
Speaker 2: because you don't go into a game. And I can
Speaker 2: just speak from experience, from having the top flight quarterback.
Speaker 2: When he had seven, when I had a John, it
Speaker 2: wasn't like, man, I hope we win. I hope if
Speaker 2: this goes well, that goes well. I know any time
Speaker 2: he's under center, we got a great chance of winning.
Speaker 2: And we didn't have to play our best because a
Speaker 2: lot of times you go into the game where if
Speaker 2: we do this, if we don't turn the b all over,
Speaker 2: if the defense can do this, if we don't, if
Speaker 2: we commit fewer than five pills, we got no, we
Speaker 2: got seven. We got a great chance. We don't have
Speaker 2: to be perfect, and we got a chance to win.
Speaker 2: And I think the thing is for him is that
Speaker 2: now that he doesn't he's under man a little bit.
Speaker 2: The last thing he can do is turn the ball
Speaker 2: over at the ratio that he's been turning it over
Speaker 2: throughout his career, because now you don't have the man
Speaker 2: power to come from behind like you once could.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be very very interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, what did you make about the exchange with
Speaker 2: Robert Slid after the touchdown, Aaron seemed to push him.
Speaker 3: What's going on? Did you see it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I saw it.
Speaker 6: I think they just play playful Bantha between hit you know,
Speaker 6: co coaching players. Okay, okay, yeah, they just played play
Speaker 6: between coach and player. Yeah. Nothing, nothing, nothing too much.
Speaker 5: And I saw it.
Speaker 6: I actually I had to. I watched it three different
Speaker 6: times just to make sure. You know, you know, there's
Speaker 6: a smile on both faces, and he and he walked away.
Speaker 5: It was nothing. It was nothing.
Speaker 2: Bryce Young is looking at looking in the mirror, falling
Speaker 2: the past decision to bench him just two games.
Speaker 5: I hope he not. I hope he's not.
Speaker 2: Mail Jackson say, I started with the man in the mirror.
Speaker 2: He acknowledged the decision was a surprise and said not
Speaker 2: something I necessarily necessarily was expecting. Obviously, not something that
Speaker 2: was great to hear. But I respect coach Canalis and
Speaker 2: I respect the organization. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: we had a ton of drives, a ton of game,
Speaker 2: and I didn't do enough during that. I look in
Speaker 2: the mirror and I take accountability for that. For the
Speaker 2: most part, every snap it hit my hands, I didn't
Speaker 2: do enough with it. At the end of the day, and.
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear that shit.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 5: He It's okay. I know you're the quarterback.
Speaker 6: You're the most important You're the most important player and
Speaker 6: most important position on the field because you touched the
Speaker 6: ball every goddamn play.
Speaker 5: But come on, man, you listen. You have to say
Speaker 5: the right thing.
Speaker 6: Bryce Young is saying all the right thing because he's
Speaker 6: in a position where he has to.
Speaker 5: You went to a fuck and dumpster fires.
Speaker 6: The reason they were the team to pick and had
Speaker 6: the first picking the goddamn draft. Everybody can see it.
Speaker 6: Your family gonna tell you the truth. Your friends are
Speaker 6: gonna tell the truth. I'm tell you the truth.
Speaker 5: It ain't you. Ain't nothing wrong with you.
Speaker 3: Shit, Ojo, did you know?
Speaker 6: Listen, listen, find me somebody at the Old Testament, find
Speaker 6: me somebody at the New Testament that can come play
Speaker 6: for the goddamn Panthers and make a goddamn difference. Nobody, boy,
Speaker 6: Jesus himself will come down here them. Goddamn Sam was
Speaker 6: even waring. Ain't nothing changing. Funk is bad there. When
Speaker 6: Sam Donald was there, they said it was Sam donald fault.
Speaker 6: When Bacon Mayfield was there, they said it when Baker
Speaker 6: Mayfield's fault, Rice Young is there.
Speaker 5: They said it is Bryce Young's fault.
Speaker 6: Sam Donald a god damn Baker Mayfield on off too,
Speaker 6: motherfucking historic starts again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Bacon.
Speaker 2: I think Bacon might have went to the last year
Speaker 2: something and he played very what else since he's got
Speaker 2: out of that sets pool which is Carolina And.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, Chad.
Speaker 6: I want you stay with me real quick.
Speaker 5: Listen to me.
Speaker 6: Dave Temper knows Frank Wright got fired and begin eleven games.
Speaker 6: He understands David Temper has a very short fuse and
Speaker 6: had little to no patience at all, and not understanding
Speaker 6: that it takes time. It takes time you knockinna buy
Speaker 6: your way into having a successful team.
Speaker 5: It takes time to build.
Speaker 6: So I think Dave Canats is sitting back, well, you
Speaker 6: know right now, I think my goddamn job is on
Speaker 6: the line, Yeah, because I don't think we can win
Speaker 6: with Bryce Young not understanding that elephant in the room
Speaker 6: is more than just Bryce Young.
Speaker 5: There are other issues that need to be addressed.
Speaker 6: David Temper knows that mister Knealist knows that as well,
Speaker 6: and I'm ask you one more thing. I'm gonna let
Speaker 6: you talk, because if you don't stop me, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: keep on going.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 6: There's thirty one other quarterbacks in the team. Chat, be
Speaker 6: honest with yourself. Thirty one other quarterbacks in the league
Speaker 6: that are starters. Name one that would come that can
Speaker 6: come to the Panthers team right now and make a
Speaker 6: goddamn difference. Please tell me. As matter of fact, I'm
Speaker 6: going to the game this Sunday. I think the Panthers
Speaker 6: are playing the Raiders in Vegas. I gotta work that game,
Speaker 6: so now I get to see it in person. So
Speaker 6: when we do the show Sunday night, what did I
Speaker 6: tell you?
Speaker 5: I just saw this person?
Speaker 6: It ain't bright, young, but go ahead, go ahead, I'm
Speaker 6: thirty eight hot.
Speaker 5: The problem that making that damn speech like he did issue.
Speaker 2: The problem is is that owners, let's just say, owners
Speaker 2: and ads. You get a team, a team that went
Speaker 2: won one game or team that won three games, and
Speaker 2: you expect, no matter who you hire, to come in
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden gonna be a playoff team.
Speaker 2: Y'all come in, all of a sudden, You're in the
Speaker 2: college football playoffs. Do you realize how bad you were
Speaker 2: before you got into before you change rezipt, you regime.
Speaker 6: You know what the problem is. You know what the
Speaker 6: problem is the people that positions of power. They're not
Speaker 6: football guys. We have businessmen buying teams.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 6: Businessmen that use money and they know that what money
Speaker 6: does in the business world, it changes things right away.
Speaker 5: Well, in the football world, that's not the way.
Speaker 2: You sure, because in business you can create a product
Speaker 2: and it changed a fortune just like that, whether it's
Speaker 2: the iPhone or or the iPod or whatever the case
Speaker 2: may be, you can create something and instantane, instantaneously, it
Speaker 2: changes your life.
Speaker 3: Now, if you're fortunate enough and you get a quarterback,
Speaker 3: it can change, it can.
Speaker 2: But but what about the piece? Do you have to remember?
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes went to a team that had Travis Kelcey
Speaker 2: and Tyreek Hill, and if I'm not mistaken, it had
Speaker 2: what's the guy, uh the running Kareem Hunt. But he
Speaker 2: I think he got in trouble and he ended up
Speaker 2: they ended up shipping him out. But and then they
Speaker 2: went and got Sammy Watkins. So they surrounded him. As
Speaker 2: great as he was, they surrounded him with talent Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what you gotta have, no matter great, I don't
Speaker 2: care how great. You gotta have something. And I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that the guy you needed. Random all Jared, Rice
Speaker 2: and Too all on one team.
Speaker 3: But do they fit?
Speaker 2: Do the pieces fit? And see that's what everybody said. Well,
Speaker 2: Tom Brady ain't got no help, no, no, no. Those guys
Speaker 2: that Tom had they fit because everybody can't go. You
Speaker 2: can't take guys that are being alpha dogs and used
Speaker 2: to being the guy and said, Okay, you got two
Speaker 2: basses this week, we're gonna run the ball forty times
Speaker 2: like they did, like Edelman and Welker and and Amondola
Speaker 2: and those guys that don't work for Jerry, that ain't
Speaker 2: working for Too, that ain't working for Randy.
Speaker 3: That ain't working on Joe.
Speaker 2: And I tell people that, I said, y'all look at
Speaker 2: and y'all look at Elbeman, y'all, look at Amon Dola, y'all,
Speaker 2: look at Welcome, y'all, look at the receivers, and y'all think, well,
Speaker 2: they're not Jared Race. No, but Jerry ain't playing that system.
Speaker 2: You better get car of that damn ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: you better get Hey, you better give Marvin Harrison that ball. Okay,
Speaker 2: better drive happened and Marvin ain't seen the ball? Okay,
Speaker 2: y'all did that that quietness fool you man. Everybody can't
Speaker 2: play in every system they think, Oh great, no no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no.
Speaker 3: You better get those guys the ball.
Speaker 2: And we're gonna talk about Tom and saying how he
Speaker 2: approached situations with the receiver, how he would talk each
Speaker 2: and you hear me say this all the time. If
Speaker 2: you're a leader, you can't leave it. Lead everybody the same.
Speaker 2: If you're a coach, you can't coach everybody the same.
Speaker 2: You treat them all fair, but you don't treat them
Speaker 2: all the same. You have to understand by being around,
Speaker 2: being observant, talking and understand what's the best way. Oh oh,
Speaker 2: he's so sensing. Okay, you try to you try that approach.
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, having been in the locker rooms,
Speaker 2: Oh telling you, and I got over almost two and
Speaker 2: a half decades in the locker room. I'm telling you
Speaker 2: what somebody said. You could say somebody is sensitive and
Speaker 2: solve all you want to, but if you approach the
Speaker 2: wrong guy the wrong way, he gonna go outside your
Speaker 2: head is gonna be a problem. So you have to
Speaker 2: learn by talking to him, by watching a lot of times.
Speaker 2: You watch you know guys that I'm you know you
Speaker 2: form a relationship with. You watch them, who they talk
Speaker 2: to in the room, How outgoing there are? Are they joking?
Speaker 2: Are they laughing okay when they're on the field. Are
Speaker 2: they how engaged artie. You get a sense of what
Speaker 2: you can and can't say to certain people. You have
Speaker 2: to understand that's a grown ass man. You're in't in
Speaker 2: college now, you ain't in high school. So you being
Speaker 2: the captain and thinking you can talk to somebody a
Speaker 2: certain way, and to get you lumped up, y'all, I'm
Speaker 2: just telling you. I'm just telling you now. So don't
Speaker 2: let that feel your shirt fool you like you like like,
Speaker 2: if you're in high school, you the captain on the
Speaker 2: team more time than not.
Speaker 3: God the hard the captain ain't gonna try you.
Speaker 2: If you're in college, learn who to talk to, how
Speaker 2: to talk to him, Show everybody a certain level of
Speaker 2: respect because they deserve it, or he'll take it. So
Speaker 2: but we will get to what Tom saying a little later.
Speaker 2: Someone who's familiar with the organization. Baker Mayfield was asked
Speaker 2: about the Panthers decision to brinch Bryce Young.
Speaker 3: This is what Baker had to say.
Speaker 8: Obviously, mine didn't happen in the same time frame that price.
Speaker 7: But quarterbacks are especially for young guys, when you're not
Speaker 7: surrounded with the pieces that you.
Speaker 8: Know, not giving the opportunity to have success. And so
Speaker 8: that's a.
Speaker 7: Lot of the time guys have the talent, they might
Speaker 7: have the brains, but they don't have the right opportunity
Speaker 7: to right fit. I mean, I'm sitting here right now
Speaker 7: in a way better fit the other places I've had,
Speaker 7: And that's that's not to put other teams down, but it's.
Speaker 8: A matter of the pieces around you, the.
Speaker 7: Coaches, and for Bryce, the guy that you know, I
Speaker 7: can relate to this, finding that belief within yourself again
Speaker 7: and he'll get his stories far far from Fash's.
Speaker 6: A key word, Yeah, one of the key words, he said,
Speaker 6: the pieces around you. I said all the time, a
Speaker 6: quarterback is only as good as that supporting cast.
Speaker 5: You can only do so much. Yeah, now I'm not
Speaker 5: supporting casts is bad. But there there's Oh cho I
Speaker 5: could oh cho.
Speaker 2: I can look at my plate and I got broccoli
Speaker 2: and asparagus the mushroom, and I could believe man, that's
Speaker 2: a steak man, that's chicken man, that's cramped leg.
Speaker 3: I can believe all I want to.
Speaker 2: That's broccoli, that's mushrooms, and that's whatever it is.
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
Speaker 2: I can believe all I want to in myself, But
Speaker 2: if you don't give me the pieces around, believe it
Speaker 2: in me and them not being able to do what
Speaker 2: I need them to do is not going to It's
Speaker 2: not it's not the day receiver you played the You
Speaker 2: and I both play dependent positions, but a quarterback is
Speaker 2: dependent also.
Speaker 3: He's dependent on his receivers getting open.
Speaker 2: He's dependent on the offensive line to protect his ass.
Speaker 3: So we all play dependent positions.
Speaker 2: Running back is dependent on the offensive line opening holes.
Speaker 2: He's dependent on the tight end and the wide receiver's
Speaker 2: blocking for it. He's dependent on the quarterback carrying out
Speaker 2: the faith to hold the end on the back side.
Speaker 2: We all play dependent positions, so everybody is dependent on
Speaker 2: everybody else to do their job in order for us
Speaker 2: to function and operate at maximum capacity. Right now, Yes,
Speaker 2: he's lost confidence because he's never lost this many games.
Speaker 2: He's never he's he hasn't been it's bad in a
Speaker 2: very long time, and.
Speaker 3: So it's messing with him. So now he's thinking, is
Speaker 3: it me? Is it me?
Speaker 2: What did I do? What could I have done differently?
Speaker 2: What should I have done differently?
Speaker 5: I think there's nothing you can do to another team.
Speaker 3: That's what you could do.
Speaker 5: Nothing.
Speaker 6: I hope Bryce Young see this, boy, don't you ever
Speaker 6: question yourself as far as you come, as far as
Speaker 6: you've come, even winning since high school he was probably winning,
Speaker 6: and god damned junior high.
Speaker 5: You look at the landscape. You've been playing football long
Speaker 5: enough to know.
Speaker 6: Don't you ever look at no marrior question yourself and
Speaker 6: put out no goddamn statement like that.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 6: I know you got to say it. You a quarterback,
Speaker 6: you know you have to be PC. But nigga, please
Speaker 6: excuse me, my man, Come on, man, don't do that.
Speaker 8: Man.
Speaker 6: And then also when you did your interview not too
Speaker 6: long I think it was a last week on Yeah,
Speaker 6: and he said, they asked him, how is your confidence? Oh,
Speaker 6: my confidence in the Lord?
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 6: I understand you know you're a man of God, a child,
Speaker 6: but hey, well, don't answer that like that. Don't answer
Speaker 6: that like that. Don't answer that like that. I mean,
Speaker 6: the answer like that is a man to me.
Speaker 3: That's lost confidence in himself, who lost.
Speaker 6: His confidence to even say it's with him, we orreagnosed
Speaker 6: with him. You ain't got to say that, right, You
Speaker 6: ain't got to see that. I'm feeling good. I'm going,
Speaker 6: but I'm a bounce back. I ain't lost nine bit
Speaker 6: of confidence because it all started up anyway. The game
Speaker 6: of football on chat, the game of football is ninety
Speaker 6: percent mental, ninety especially at his position, with as much.
Speaker 5: As he got on this play unk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this right.
Speaker 5: He has got to be right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a hundred things you.
Speaker 5: Got to worry about when you come up by that huddle.
Speaker 6: Believe though, Ojo, if you answering a question about your
Speaker 6: confidence being with the man upstairs, he's going and it shot.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: You and I both know playing the position. We believe.
Speaker 2: I believe that was the baddest mofo on the field.
Speaker 2: You believe the exact same thing. I don't care what,
Speaker 2: I don't care who on the other side. I know
Speaker 2: what I bring to the table. I know the work
Speaker 2: that I put in. It's all that talking they was doing.
Speaker 2: I know what look oh, Joe, I I almost got
Speaker 2: traded twice. And I remember telling Mike. I went to
Speaker 2: mic office. I said, make what you fail to realize?
Speaker 2: They ain't another tight end that can do what I do.
Speaker 2: And that's that. And I say that disrespectfully. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, no, no, no, I'm saying that disrespectfully.
Speaker 2: They ain't a more for out there. And I don't
Speaker 2: care who you talking about. They can't touch me. They can't.
Speaker 2: I say, how many tight is you know can go
Speaker 2: get you one eighty? How many tight is you know?
Speaker 2: Can go get your thirteen catches, get your three tubs
Speaker 2: on thirteen targets. Come on now, I said, So I
Speaker 2: get all of that you want to put you. I say,
Speaker 2: but they can't do what I do. Not only can
Speaker 2: they not do what I do, they can't do what
Speaker 2: I do in the locker room. Yeah, that's the point
Speaker 2: that you really failed, a miss. I said, But you
Speaker 2: know what, one day, I ain't gonna be here and
Speaker 2: you're gonna realize and all the stuff that was taken
Speaker 2: care of before it jumped on your desk, right you like, well,
Speaker 2: damn where all these problems come from? M h Yeah, Hey, Ford,
Speaker 2: took care of it before it ever got to you
Speaker 2: got upstairs, I say so. But as I left the
Speaker 2: Baltimore and it came back our relationship, he saw me
Speaker 2: in a different light because sometimes you only see person
Speaker 2: that's catching and touchdowns and you don't realize there's so
Speaker 2: much more than that.
Speaker 3: My value.
Speaker 2: I never looked at my value as just being able
Speaker 2: to catch the football or just being able to score
Speaker 2: the touchdown. I had value in the locker room that
Speaker 2: made sure guys were able to go do what they
Speaker 2: needed to do on the field because I didn't let
Speaker 2: locker room issues spill over, right, And you know, you
Speaker 2: keep the piece you bridge, Like, Hey, at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, we we gotta win together. Hey, I
Speaker 2: understand we got differences, but the difference that we dealing with,
Speaker 2: they ain't got nothing to do with this right here, right,
Speaker 2: I said, because y'all arguing about somebody, y'all both at work,
Speaker 2: y'all don't know what she doing. I'm gonna leave it
Speaker 2: at that, right. Tom Brady used Jillian Edlman and Randy
Speaker 2: Moss's two elite wide receivers as example to explain how
Speaker 2: he approached his teammates based on their personality. If you
Speaker 2: wanted Julia, who had incredible mental toughness, to play his best,
Speaker 2: the way you do it is take him off. I
Speaker 2: would say things like, Jules, wow, you look really sluggish today.
Speaker 2: He glared at me and be so angry. But I
Speaker 2: knew he channeled that energy to prove me wrong and
Speaker 2: go out and lay great.
Speaker 3: He said.
Speaker 2: Randy was wired differently. Randy responded better to validation. Randy,
Speaker 2: you look amazing out there, even in practice. If I
Speaker 2: went too long without throwing him the ball, I go
Speaker 2: over and say how much I valued him and remind
Speaker 2: him that I was always looking for him on every play.
Speaker 3: You see, yeah, you see, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: See how you have to approach guys now, Randy and Julia.
Speaker 2: Basically they wide receivers. One a slot was not right.
Speaker 2: But you gotta play.
Speaker 5: Completely completely different mindsets.
Speaker 6: You gotta be able to. You gotta be able to
Speaker 6: as a quarterback. You gotta be able to manipulate them
Speaker 6: to keep them engaged. You don't want to get you
Speaker 6: want to want to lose a moss up here in game.
Speaker 6: You know how hard that is to get him back
Speaker 6: on track.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, somebody like that.
Speaker 6: But once you lose him up here and they check
Speaker 6: out mentally in the game because the ain't getting.
Speaker 5: The ball, oh shit, or don't get it? Hey, oh
Speaker 5: think and don't get it.
Speaker 2: Prime example, O yo, prime example. Look at Randy Moss
Speaker 2: in no years in Oakland. Look at Randy Moss when
Speaker 2: he got the New England mm hmm. That's all I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say.
Speaker 6: Hey, it wasn't nothing wrong with him. It was nothing
Speaker 6: wrong with him at all. Nothing, But they'll play.
Speaker 2: You see your leader, You see what your leader did.
Speaker 2: He understood the personalities, he understood his teammates, and he
Speaker 2: knew how to approach him. You see, y'all. Hey, man, man, hey,
Speaker 2: Randy just being.
Speaker 5: Okay, Now, y'all do it y'all way.
Speaker 3: I gonna tell you. You do it y'all way, and
Speaker 3: each boss you do it differently.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, if you want to be a great leader,
Speaker 2: if you want to be a leader of men, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: you understand their personalities and you understand what makes them tick,
Speaker 2: and you appeal to that. Because all I'm trying to
Speaker 2: do is get the maximum out of you. See, my
Speaker 2: job is to make sure that I get more out
Speaker 2: of you than you think you can give me. See,
Speaker 2: that's what a coach is supposed to do. A coach
Speaker 2: is supposed to push your player, father, and he can
Speaker 2: think he can go on his own and get more
Speaker 2: on you than you, even though you got in you.
Speaker 2: So that's what coming back and watching and listening. I
Speaker 2: listened to the guys talk. When I say something, I
Speaker 2: listened who laughed, who gave a little rot smile? I
Speaker 2: watch how they maneuver it in the locker room. I
Speaker 2: watch them in the cafeteria. Sometimes I just go into
Speaker 2: the cafeteria. See what they ate, see how they dress,
Speaker 2: see how they moved. I'm all often, Hey, how soon
Speaker 2: they get to work?
Speaker 3: Oh Joe?
Speaker 2: How early they show up for the plane? When they're
Speaker 2: on the plane. How engaged were with the teammates? Were
Speaker 2: they on their little DVD players? Were they watching a movie?
Speaker 2: What would? What were they doing? After a while, I
Speaker 2: had a good sense who I could joke with. Hey, hey, bro,
Speaker 2: my grandma could have caught that one. Hey you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Hey, things like that, Hey, damn bro, what you do
Speaker 3: last night? Right?
Speaker 2: You get a good sense of who you can and
Speaker 2: who you can't. And once you, once you appeal to.
Speaker 5: That you're good.
Speaker 2: See when people say I don't want to know about
Speaker 2: yes you do. You want some bad Hey, O Joe,
Speaker 2: you did good today, Ojo, That's that's nice. Oh man,
Speaker 2: O Joe. Man you saw O Joe Man, o Jo
Speaker 2: got the PURNI tea hair, clean skin, Lizzen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all.
Speaker 2: Yes, you promote. If you get a promotion on your job,
Speaker 2: that's validation. Yes, that's why people take get upset.
Speaker 3: Ojo.
Speaker 2: Man, I ain't get that promotion. I do see you
Speaker 2: in the validation. Man, I show up on time, I
Speaker 2: do all my work. I've been here, X Y and
Speaker 2: zus many see. So athletes want that too. I feel
Speaker 2: that I've earned it, not what I just want what
Speaker 2: I earned. And so that level of respect that comes
Speaker 2: along with the way I played, with the way I've
Speaker 2: conducted myself. Man, I'm telling you to hear Tom. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's not telling me anything. Having been in locker rooms,
Speaker 2: having been a leader of a team, you understand this,
Speaker 2: O Joe. You've been around this thing. You know how
Speaker 2: guys function. And when you win a lot of games,
Speaker 2: and Tom, it's one more game than anybody from a
Speaker 2: player standpoint, and you might not go fight it. You
Speaker 2: might not find another player to win that many games again,
Speaker 2: So he understands.
Speaker 3: And you notice.
Speaker 2: They don't nobody say anything bad about Tom. I think
Speaker 2: that might be his not the touchdown passes, not the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl wins, not the playoffs. Is that what guys
Speaker 2: say about him, not to his face, but behind his back.
Speaker 2: That's the That's the mark of a great teammate, of
Speaker 2: a great leader, of a great person.
Speaker 3: All that other stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know the numbers, but look how his teammate
Speaker 2: speak of it.
Speaker 5: Always positives, always away.
Speaker 6: I was one of them. I was one of them,
Speaker 6: and I didn't know. I didn't know what to expect.
Speaker 6: When I got to New England. You know what I did.
Speaker 6: I got a understanding of who he was, and I
Speaker 6: got a better understanding of why they always won.
Speaker 5: And it starts at the motherfucking top, it does, and it.
Speaker 6: Trickles all the way down to the goddamn head coach
Speaker 6: and the quarterback.
Speaker 5: That together were special. It was special.
Speaker 6: It was special, and I wish, I wish y'all could
Speaker 6: have been inside. And one of the other things I
Speaker 6: said to myself was, for god, damn, Tom is really cool.
Speaker 6: But the Tom that he portrays on camera ain't really talking.
Speaker 3: About got to protect the image.
Speaker 6: Now having to protect that image being in New England.
Speaker 6: Now he kind of came out of shell when he
Speaker 6: was in Tampa a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they came out of shap.
Speaker 2: A little bit, started getting I g a little more,
Speaker 2: started started starting to present himself a little more. And
Speaker 2: I think that was the hardest thing. I think the
Speaker 2: hardest thing when people like I haven't really heard Tom
Speaker 2: do really do a game. I think the thing is
Speaker 2: people like you're saying things, let's say, but you have
Speaker 2: to understand he spent his entire career of not saying nothing,
Speaker 2: and now he wants people to listen to what he
Speaker 2: has to say.
Speaker 3: See, that's the heart. That's the part that people are
Speaker 3: trying to get over.
Speaker 5: Tom.
Speaker 2: You never said anything, you never spoke, You only gave
Speaker 2: us cliches, you only gave us coach bet.
Speaker 3: But it's early.
Speaker 2: Like I said that, he's only gonna get better because
Speaker 2: he's gonna put the work in to get better. So
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I said, I don't I look,
Speaker 2: and I think the thing is is that what he's
Speaker 2: up against, the two guys that preceded him and to
Speaker 2: go to the number one spot Tony Romo and Greg Osen.
Speaker 2: Greg Osen wont anm me. Tony Romo was was was
Speaker 2: lightning in the bottle? So what so?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 8: So?
Speaker 2: What do they expect now with Joe? Everybody that come off? Man,
Speaker 2: he ain't Tony Romo, He ain't Greg Osen?
Speaker 5: What damn?
Speaker 2: Some people are natural. That's just like saying quarterback. Well,
Speaker 2: because if a rookie quarterback, no, well he ain't no
Speaker 2: CJ strouds what damn? Everybody ain't CJ. A lot of
Speaker 2: people that wasn't see J.
Speaker 3: Stroud.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they can't be good. Some people get
Speaker 2: better over time. And I think Tom that's what Tom's
Speaker 2: gonna be. But that's the that's the thing that he's
Speaker 2: working against, is that the expectations people have and how
Speaker 2: they saw him. But I mean, what y'all want him
Speaker 2: to do?
Speaker 3: Right? What you want him to do? Y'all don't think
Speaker 3: he know the game?
Speaker 2: You don't think you don't think he knows what he's
Speaker 2: talking about from coverage from the front. Absolutely, but his
Speaker 2: thing is not I don't think he'll ever be a
Speaker 2: guy like Romo that would like a lot of times
Speaker 2: like sometimes he would tell you to play well, I
Speaker 2: think this is what's gonna come jail.
Speaker 6: You know, it's funny with Romo as a quarterback. I
Speaker 6: think Tom had that same that same visual based on
Speaker 6: a formation based on down and distance, based on the
Speaker 6: team and their tendency and what they like.
Speaker 5: He could probably guess it too.
Speaker 3: Yes, and a lot of these courts, does he know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Bingo and thinks you know, offenses don't change no
Speaker 6: matter where coordinated, though they take that same off.
Speaker 3: Wretch. Yeah. Yeah, that's why he knows Spagnola so well.
Speaker 3: He knows facts.
Speaker 2: He played, He played against those defense So yeah, I
Speaker 2: just and and and and Troy guys are really good.
Speaker 2: But damn get a man some time. Damn y'all wanted
Speaker 2: y'all wanted the man to be John Madden rested. So
Speaker 2: y'all wanted to be John madd not the box.
Speaker 5: At week one? Uh they did.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.
Speaker 2: Mayl Kip for having a hell of a check this
Speaker 2: morning on how to insert more downfield passing back into
Speaker 2: the professional games. The NFL is being ruined by these
Speaker 2: two high safeties. Two high safety should be outlawed.
Speaker 8: What what?
Speaker 5: What is mal talking about man.
Speaker 6: This is since what happened when somebody has has has
Speaker 6: been in the position that has it never played the game,
Speaker 6: but it studied the game and knows a lot about
Speaker 6: the players coming out of college and knows the ends
Speaker 6: and the outs and all all the little nuances. And
Speaker 6: then he talks good and during the draft. Now you're
Speaker 6: saying something needs to be outlawed for what?
Speaker 8: For what?
Speaker 6: How about you realize that the goddamn offensive line play
Speaker 6: is fucking horrible this season. That's why the guy damn horrible.
Speaker 6: Look at the left tackles. Look at the right tackles
Speaker 6: in today's game, look at it.
Speaker 5: Pay attention.
Speaker 6: You'll see why they goddamn numbers are down. It has
Speaker 6: nothing to do with goddamn cover two to man, none
Speaker 6: of that shit. Or two safety looks like goddamn mal shit.
Speaker 6: I mean so so in other words, so in other words,
Speaker 6: he wants the touchdown rate to keep going up. I mean,
Speaker 6: he'll gonna be satisfied till you got five quarterback throwing
Speaker 6: for fifty touchdowns in the season. And guess what, when
Speaker 6: damn Marino threw for forty eight touchdown they played cover too.
Speaker 6: When Peyton Manny threw for fifty five, they played cover too.
Speaker 6: When Tom played throw for fifty, they played cover too.
Speaker 6: When Patrick Maholls throw for fifty, they played cover too.
Speaker 2: Marino threw for forty a five thousand yards back in
Speaker 2: the eighties, they play cover two.
Speaker 5: It's just ridiculous and matter of fact, how about this,
Speaker 5: If you're gonna take out the.
Speaker 6: Two high safety, right, you got corners having to play
Speaker 6: man and man with some of these elite receivers not
Speaker 6: having no goddamn help.
Speaker 5: They need the motherfucking raise.
Speaker 6: The goddamn paid for the dv's and no, let the
Speaker 6: let's let the DBS make sure the DB's making thirty
Speaker 6: men in here.
Speaker 5: If they got to cover these Xavier Worthy and.
Speaker 6: Crystal Olive and uh Rashishi Heat and all these fast dudes.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it leaving.
Speaker 2: I won't make it either, for if no more cover two,
Speaker 2: you can't have a wide receiver on the field that
Speaker 2: runs for three or faster. Since we since you want to,
Speaker 2: you want to hand the captain defense they got they
Speaker 2: got to play on this single high. Okay, all your
Speaker 2: receivers got to run it. Leads four folk run food high.
Speaker 5: That's that's a. That's a trip, man. Come on, man,
Speaker 5: I love you. Listen, mel I love you and I
Speaker 5: respect your baby.
Speaker 2: But come on, man, you do realize they went to
Speaker 2: that they used to All they played was single high
Speaker 2: safety until Bob Hayes. Bob Hayes came into the league.
Speaker 2: How you the world fastest man. You're gonna play him
Speaker 2: in single house with a man coverage?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: He the fastest man on the planet, and you got
Speaker 2: a dB. Now, remember now is dancing like Ginger Rogers
Speaker 2: and Fredi Staire. Ginger Rogers had a harder job because
Speaker 2: she did everything Freda Staire did, and she did it
Speaker 2: backwards in heels. So we're asking these dbs to do
Speaker 2: everything Tyreek Hill does, but I need you to do it.
Speaker 3: Backwards backwards with no help.
Speaker 5: That's crazy. It be a touchdown on every play.
Speaker 2: If you had, if you just had to play single house, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, touchdown. But it's gonna be a lot of yards.
Speaker 6: Listen, you play off at seven yards and keep everything
Speaker 6: in front of you. But all they're gonna do is
Speaker 6: march right down to god damn field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to be able to switch it up.
Speaker 2: You gotta play cover too. You gotta play quarters. You
Speaker 2: gotta play fifty five, you gotta play six kicks, you
Speaker 2: gotta play seven eighty eight bucks.
Speaker 6: Come on, I don't think I don't think Mail was
Speaker 6: thinking like I did you think that process through? You know,
Speaker 6: there's there's a reason for different coverages, there's a reason
Speaker 6: for different different defenses.
Speaker 5: You know, it makes the.
Speaker 6: Game difficult for quarterbacks, so they don't know where to
Speaker 6: go with the ball, right, and there's a reasonably bluff.
Speaker 5: That's a reason why the safety dropped down.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's a reason why they got THEMN office
Speaker 6: the live ship stright before the you know snapper the ball, Like.
Speaker 5: Come on, man Ojo.
Speaker 2: You remember in college. You remember in college they say, man,
Speaker 2: y'all need to do what the no huddle the spread?
Speaker 2: These are these no huddle offenses. They're gonna get somebody.
Speaker 3: No, you have to.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to coach your team up and get
Speaker 2: them in better shape so they can handle them where.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get your quarterback smarter and understand
Speaker 2: where to go with the football, get them to study
Speaker 2: better and stop putting the ball in the arm's way
Speaker 2: because they're not telling the offense. Well, you can't run empty.
Speaker 2: You can't run five wids, you can't run three by one,
Speaker 2: you can't run. Come on, man, y'all just want the
Speaker 2: office to just to go up and down, y'all. So
Speaker 2: just I'll tell you what this this happened. DB's the
Speaker 2: defense played with once you You can only watch you, Dan,
Speaker 2: y'all at some point in time. Damn, let the defense win.
Speaker 2: Give me something, Joe, let me win something, well, Dana.
Speaker 6: All the damn rules to end this in today's game
Speaker 6: are predicated towards the offensive players. They got the goddamn
Speaker 6: not mail. You can't touch the receivers past five yards.
Speaker 6: You can't touch you can't do nothing. Now he wants
Speaker 6: to hit him.
Speaker 3: Too hard, Oh, Joe, remember I can't hit him too
Speaker 3: hard either.
Speaker 5: Oh you can't hit him and back.
Speaker 6: You can't make him think twice aboy coming across that
Speaker 6: God damn middle receivers be out there catching stuff like
Speaker 6: the mona Lisa smiling, one hand in the air.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to think. I can't remember.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure it might have happened, but I don't
Speaker 2: remember all these catches with one hand, Like you see
Speaker 2: these guys going across the middle. Yeah, look a pretty
Speaker 2: and these guys checked the free step flint route, Oh
Speaker 2: joe A three steps man, Mike single charac boy.
Speaker 5: And your head had been listen, your head would have
Speaker 5: been rolling black.
Speaker 2: You'd have a vibor over your ear hole because that's
Speaker 2: what you've been looking out of as soon as you
Speaker 2: brought you as soon as you brought your answer to
Speaker 2: that three step flat right on, Yo, you better let
Speaker 2: that back of clear man.
Speaker 5: Well, you better than me. Hit me, hit me in
Speaker 5: the second window, sir.
Speaker 3: Ye, thank you hit me in the second single tar clear.
Speaker 2: You better let raiding him clear offer doll and all
Speaker 2: those guys earl Lacker a free step flint.
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't want I don't wante of that.
Speaker 2: Nope, nope, mm hmm nope. That ain't nothing but a headache.
Speaker 2: That that's where that's where you're sitting on the bench
Speaker 2: and the trainer. How many fingers that got up got out.
Speaker 8: What you have?
Speaker 3: He had, that's what he doing. You know here you okay,
Speaker 3: mm hmmm, you know where you are? What they have
Speaker 3: for breakfa this morning?
Speaker 5: Oh? I remember them day stop?
Speaker 3: Oh yoe.
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell is selling his home after the Lions fans
Speaker 2: found his address after after NFC Championship lost. Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: has listed his five bedroom, seventh bathroom Bloomfield Hills, Michigan
Speaker 2: home he shares with his family for four point five
Speaker 2: million due to security concerns.
Speaker 3: There's plenty of space. It's on two acres. Al Uh.
Speaker 2: The home is beautiful. It is just people figured out
Speaker 2: where we live when we lost. O Joe, what's your
Speaker 2: take on this?
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I just says that's putting his family,
Speaker 5: his kids in danger. Come on, danger?
Speaker 3: Is that serious?
Speaker 5: Ojo? I mean with fans, I've never never I mean
Speaker 5: I've never experienced it, you know, to that nature. Uh.
Speaker 5: But but for the sake of his family and his kids,
Speaker 5: is it's okay to move? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 6: If anything, if anything, I mean, I would hate to say,
Speaker 6: maybe you need to hire twenty four hour security detail.
Speaker 5: But you shouldn't have to.
Speaker 2: Give the coach Jay z he I mean like I mean,
Speaker 2: I mean, like you, Jay Z, Beyondes, you Lebron, You're
Speaker 2: one of those guys somebody like that, you know you
Speaker 2: Oprah or you like you know you somebody like that.
Speaker 5: But the coach should have to do that. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: just just to be safe though, huh oh yeah, just the.
Speaker 6: Fact that the fact that you have to up and
Speaker 6: move is that yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure it would
Speaker 6: probably make your wife uncomfortable, It would make the kids uncomfortable.
Speaker 6: So just for their safety, to make them feel secure,
Speaker 6: you know, security, twenty four hour security, just you know,
Speaker 6: watching over.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't I honestly, I wouldn't move.
Speaker 6: I would just have the security detail on hand during
Speaker 6: the time your families come home and the wife would
Speaker 6: come to home.
Speaker 3: And the key.
Speaker 5: I mean, not that twenty four hour security not as
Speaker 5: expensive as you think.
Speaker 3: Twenty four hours Joe.
Speaker 5: I mean I don't. I don't really, I don't really
Speaker 5: think it's that much. I mean, if goddamn security all
Speaker 5: the goddamn.
Speaker 2: Time I talk about your homeward security, now about real
Speaker 2: I'll talk about I'll tell you I was this trip
Speaker 2: that's trade.
Speaker 3: Uh, situations I got, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 6: Think but the fact that he has to move it
Speaker 6: doesn't make it any better because everything is public knowledge.
Speaker 6: Everything is public information if you know where to live.
Speaker 6: So I mean, it's it's it's unfortunate. So you don't
Speaker 6: want to be hopping from place to place to place
Speaker 6: every time fans find out where you got damn leave.
Speaker 6: If anything, If if I was if I was mister Campbell,
Speaker 6: if I was mister Campbell, I stay put. Get that
Speaker 6: twenty four hour security you tail when when the kids
Speaker 6: are home, when the wife is home, or they're coming
Speaker 6: home from school, and and and.
Speaker 3: I just I just have it like that.
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, Joe, I could answerly say, and this
Speaker 2: the gods on this truth.
Speaker 3: I never want to be that famous.
Speaker 2: I still wanted to maintain a level of I mean,
Speaker 2: this celebrity that that has been, that its thrust that
Speaker 2: I've that I've that.
Speaker 3: I've had over the last year and some change. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm trying to you know, meeting Michael and
Speaker 2: to see him and to see the security detail with it,
Speaker 2: to see Lebron and to see and to see these
Speaker 2: people and to see the detail that's with them. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Lebron ain't going to no target. I bet Lebron ain't
Speaker 2: never been to target. Bron ain't probably been to the
Speaker 2: movies the movie theater since high school. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: buy him, you know, what I'm saying here and Savannah,
Speaker 2: he and the board.
Speaker 3: He can't do none of that, right, I can't.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 6: You know what's funny is I couldn't be lebron type
Speaker 6: famous because I'm too fucking friendly.
Speaker 3: Now, you wouldn't be that way, I go think about it.
Speaker 6: Can you imagine if I imagine me being Lebron type
Speaker 6: famous and I'm fly places and I'm asking people to
Speaker 6: pick me up from the airport.
Speaker 2: That would never happen because you your your risk and
Speaker 2: they would. The First of all, you have to understand
Speaker 2: familiarity breeds contempt.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: You have to be careful. You have to be careful.
Speaker 3: You if you were that famous, you wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: You don't think so?
Speaker 5: Hell no, I think I would. I wouldn't change.
Speaker 2: You don't understand what that level of fame is. First
Speaker 2: of all, you would be you wouldn't be flying like that,
Speaker 2: you'd be flying private.
Speaker 8: For one.
Speaker 6: If I was that famous and I was still making
Speaker 6: that kind of money, I definitely a flying private.
Speaker 3: And your your your your your your, your yourself safety.
Speaker 2: Ri Now, if you wouldn't to put your life on
Speaker 2: the line and your family life on the line, will
Speaker 2: go ahead and have had it.
Speaker 5: Nah, and then I'm low key anyway, So I really
Speaker 5: would I wouldn't be in the line like.
Speaker 3: Be low key with you and that famous How you
Speaker 3: gonna be low key in that favor?
Speaker 5: Easy?
Speaker 8: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not six ' nine.
Speaker 3: O yo, you said that? So where you think lel
Speaker 3: L MESSI going.
Speaker 6: All you got to do is dress normal, dress normal,
Speaker 6: put a hat on. Nobody know it's you can you know, listen,
Speaker 6: oh little I got something for you.
Speaker 5: How about this?
Speaker 6: You know how slabs You know how they always go
Speaker 6: ahead guys? Yeah, they they were surprised. Oh we saw
Speaker 6: so and so together. You know, they call them people,
Speaker 6: they call them photographers to let them know this is
Speaker 6: what we're gonna be at. You know, you had your
Speaker 6: pr hit them though, it's really gonna be at. And
Speaker 6: they catch you taking pictures where you don't want to
Speaker 6: be seen.
Speaker 5: It's easy not to be seen.
Speaker 2: No, here's the thing though, O Joe if oh, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: you're gonna be at the grove. Hey man, guess guess
Speaker 2: who on the reservation lifted list tonight as such as
Speaker 2: such at the grove right right right? Okay came slides
Speaker 2: or something. See now, how you think they get you?
Speaker 2: That's why you can't. That's why from the police. Anybody
Speaker 2: come in the police bartle. They got somebody there, They
Speaker 2: got somebody at the courthouse. That's how information get out
Speaker 2: on yo, people, do you understand what the cat say?
Speaker 2: Cat told us, I'll pay for information, all these sites
Speaker 2: of pay for information.
Speaker 3: That's how they knew.
Speaker 2: What did they know about the situation just happened? They
Speaker 2: knew Diddy was about to get arrested.
Speaker 5: Didn't it.
Speaker 3: Before it even happened, they had started reporting on it.
Speaker 6: Oh, in matter of fact, let me tell you. Let
Speaker 6: me tell you the game they playing too. Now, let
Speaker 6: me tell you, Oh, he's on suicide Watch.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you.
Speaker 5: Hold on, let me tell you the game they playing
Speaker 5: that hold on? Yeah, I said bad.
Speaker 3: I just feel bad.
Speaker 2: I feel bad because I think, you know, in a
Speaker 2: situation like this, I guess. I guess, Oh, Joey, if
Speaker 2: I was a fan like that, fan is sure for fanatic,
Speaker 2: I guess I.
Speaker 3: Just don't care.
Speaker 2: No, I ain't fin to call nobody, I ain't fin
Speaker 2: to curse nobody out about no game, right, But I
Speaker 2: definitely ain't going to somebody house people got the ability
Speaker 2: to protect themselves. Man, that man feel like his family
Speaker 2: being threatened and let everybody have it. Yeah, come on, fans, come.
Speaker 3: On, I get it.
Speaker 2: I mean Detroit, Detroit, I mean neither the NFC Championship
Speaker 2: game and it was like one game away they had
Speaker 2: won something system what fifty seven?
Speaker 3: Come on, I get it.
Speaker 5: Come on, fans, we get we gotta do better than this. Now,
Speaker 5: y'all going to the man's house.
Speaker 3: M h And that's there for me, job sock. I'm
Speaker 3: really sorry.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, my little brother, right, my little brother, just
Speaker 6: text me, say you talk about if you was Lebron famous,
Speaker 6: talk about somebody catching it's about man food.
Speaker 5: They hold you for ransom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, you ain't talk about you talk about
Speaker 1: oh dumb please, that's why he one ding.
Speaker 5: That's right, man. Listen, God, God do better. God, God,
Speaker 5: all your kids, all your kids.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, got God knows better than the blessing
Speaker 6: with that that that kind of thing, you know, because.
Speaker 2: Gave me more fame. He gave guess what, oh Joe,
Speaker 2: he gave me more fame than I deserve. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: gave me way more, way more.
Speaker 3: Than I deserve. Yeah, but you know it is what
Speaker 3: it is now you it comes, it comes along with
Speaker 3: a territory.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: As you start to make a certain level, you start
Speaker 2: to get good at a particular something. Yeah, excuse me,
Speaker 2: especially for if if it's a professional sport, because now
Speaker 2: you're on television, people recognize you, especially like basketball, because
Speaker 2: they can see your face. We're we're in the light,
Speaker 2: you know, we do digitally, we're on television, linear television.
Speaker 2: People see us without without the helmet. So we're more recognizable,
Speaker 2: more visible. Now maybe with that kind of money. Man,
Speaker 2: they're still the hell out their kids. All your how
Speaker 2: many kids? What you have to have security on all
Speaker 2: your kids?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm my kids carry that's right, and they can't
Speaker 5: please you can't. Hey, you have to put all you
Speaker 5: have to put all that thing. Yeah, you got you.
Speaker 3: That's the life.
Speaker 5: That's theah. That's that's different. That's different. Listen.
Speaker 3: I would I wouldn't.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't wish that on nobody anyway. I wouldn't wish
Speaker 5: that on nobody, you know. And the funny thing about
Speaker 5: it is, there's certain individuals, there's a select.
Speaker 6: Few that are at that height of fame and power
Speaker 6: or select few, and the fact and its just like
Speaker 6: anywhere you.
Speaker 3: Go in the world.
Speaker 2: You know, it don't matter like you go, you go
Speaker 2: to Africa, you go to Russia, you go to China.
Speaker 2: You know there's not a place. I mean, you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to go to some of the most remote places
Speaker 2: on the continent for them not to know who you are.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, can you go to you know they're
Speaker 3: gonna know I.
Speaker 5: Could do it.
Speaker 6: I couldn't do it because I'm just too sociable. I'm
Speaker 6: too fucking frid I like to I like to be
Speaker 6: out and and Jordan, you.
Speaker 2: Have to understand, as you Skojo, what you fail to
Speaker 2: realize as you start to get that level, you start
Speaker 2: to distance yourself.
Speaker 3: You can't be that way.
Speaker 5: You don't think Lebron. You don't think Lebron was sociable
Speaker 5: at one point in time.
Speaker 2: Jordan was sociable at one time, Tiger was sociable at
Speaker 2: one time. All the people that you're talking about with
Speaker 2: social at one time. Then you start to realize, where
Speaker 2: can I go? And you got to sign ten thousand autographs,
Speaker 2: take fifty thousand pictures, damn you.
Speaker 5: Know how miserable. Yes, I'm glad that I'm That's why
Speaker 5: I'm glad. I'm right.
Speaker 2: Well everybody, yes, yes, it's like because like you think
Speaker 2: about Ojo.
Speaker 3: You signed fifty autograph. You don't sign fifty one. You
Speaker 3: a dick. Ben o'jo's an asshole. He was hire. He's
Speaker 3: a for liar. You so bad bad Fojo. He do
Speaker 3: all that talking. Man I has to brought for a pick,
Speaker 3: brought him signed five hundred.
Speaker 5: The volume. M hm