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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you watched this game last night. We didn't

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Speaker 2: a great job. Aaron Rodgers looked unbelievable. Aaron Rodgers to

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Speaker 2: they look really good. Aaron Rodgers look good like he

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Speaker 3: What did you like? What did you like most about

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know what I like.

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Speaker 6: What I saw most from the Jets is the consistency

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Speaker 6: Mike looks good. The running game looks good. Now, this

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Speaker 6: Aaron Rodgers didn't get hurt last year.

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Speaker 6: So with him being held now, he made me a

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Speaker 6: And the fact that this Patriot team that I just

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Speaker 6: But listen, if you're a Jet fan, if you're in

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Speaker 6: not a fan of Aaron Rodgers, because of some all

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Speaker 5: Put it with his bullshit, and he gave you example

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Speaker 3: Yeah, O Joe.

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Speaker 2: When I watched this game, I'm looking at the Patriots

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady, I got it. Can't run. The last thing

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady. You forced Tom Brady off his mark. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Tom is accurate outside of the pocket, but he's not

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Speaker 2: Yes, Aaron can beat you from the pocket, but you

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Speaker 3: Now he can't run like he wants.

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Speaker 2: He couldn't run like he could when he was twenty eight,

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Speaker 2: But when you look at you, look at them. They

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Speaker 2: They ran the ball.

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Speaker 2: The defense did what they were supposed to do. What

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Speaker 2: I think was an overmax team. You're dominating, You're dominating.

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Speaker 2: That's what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 3: Oh Joe.

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Speaker 2: A team that you're better than, you supposed to come

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Speaker 3: Not like, man, I.

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Speaker 2: Wish we had played better. We're supposed to beat that

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Speaker 2: the board, this is what you're supposed to do. Now,

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Speaker 3: Oh so that even when we won the game, he's.

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Speaker 2: Like, we're gonna go back and watch the field because

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Speaker 3: Everything going okay.

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Speaker 2: But the Jets, you know, you now you get ten days,

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Speaker 3: You get some time off.

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Speaker 2: You played a lot of games in the first eleveny

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Speaker 3: So you look at them, out of three games in

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Speaker 2: That's a lot on a forty year old body. And

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Speaker 2: so give your credit for going go ahead.

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Speaker 3: One thing.

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Speaker 6: You know, Aaron ain't practicing. You know, you know you're practicing.

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Speaker 6: He definitely if somebody gonna take some.

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Speaker 5: Time off it's gonna be him.

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Speaker 6: I don't know who the backup quarterback is or whoever

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Speaker 3: But he gonna get.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, yeah, ty tyrod and he is

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Speaker 5: All that off.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, first of all, oh Joe, they probably

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Speaker 2: Saturday off, Sunday off, I see y'all, Monday, get a

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Speaker 7: Ye.

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Speaker 2: So, and I think that's the that's that's the proper step.

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Speaker 3: He's played extremely well.

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Speaker 2: So I think that's the thing where they're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: Let's see if we can go another week, cause you

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Speaker 3: Does he have one hundred interceptions yet?

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Speaker 5: Ask?

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Speaker 2: I don't think he does four hundred and eighty touchdowns

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Speaker 3: Two to one you can live with.

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Speaker 5: Mm oh, you.

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Speaker 3: Got one of six, he got one O six, O Joe.

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Speaker 2: For eighty to one O six, he still got the

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Speaker 5: It's funny.

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Speaker 6: It's funny how the landscape of the A s c

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Speaker 6: How things they have changed everything there shifted back going

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Speaker 5: Year that that that's crazy. So you know what now?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he has to do too much.

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Speaker 2: That's all you need is him. When you got him, Mojoe,

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Speaker 2: And I think the thing is for him is that

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Speaker 3: So it's gonna be very very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, what did you make about the exchange with

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Speaker 6: I think they just play playful Bantha between hit you know,

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Speaker 5: It was nothing. It was nothing.

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Speaker 2: Bryce Young is looking at looking in the mirror, falling

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Speaker 2: the past decision to bench him just two games.

440
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Speaker 5: I hope he not. I hope he's not.

441
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,679
Speaker 2: Mail Jackson say, I started with the man in the mirror.

442
00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,679
Speaker 2: He acknowledged the decision was a surprise and said not

443
00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 2: something I necessarily necessarily was expecting. Obviously, not something that

444
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,480
Speaker 2: was great to hear. But I respect coach Canalis and

445
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,800
Speaker 2: I respect the organization. At the end of the day,

446
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 2: we had a ton of drives, a ton of game,

447
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,200
Speaker 2: and I didn't do enough during that. I look in

448
00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,720
Speaker 2: the mirror and I take accountability for that. For the

449
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,480
Speaker 2: most part, every snap it hit my hands, I didn't

450
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 2: do enough with it. At the end of the day, and.

451
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Speaker 5: I don't want to hear that shit.

452
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 8: Man.

453
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 5: He It's okay. I know you're the quarterback.

454
00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 6: You're the most important You're the most important player and

455
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,080
Speaker 6: most important position on the field because you touched the

456
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 6: ball every goddamn play.

457
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,680
Speaker 5: But come on, man, you listen. You have to say

458
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 5: the right thing.

459
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 6: Bryce Young is saying all the right thing because he's

460
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Speaker 6: in a position where he has to.

461
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Speaker 5: You went to a fuck and dumpster fires.

462
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 6: The reason they were the team to pick and had

463
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,199
Speaker 6: the first picking the goddamn draft. Everybody can see it.

464
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,159
Speaker 6: Your family gonna tell you the truth. Your friends are

465
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 6: gonna tell the truth. I'm tell you the truth.

466
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Speaker 5: It ain't you. Ain't nothing wrong with you.

467
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: Shit, Ojo, did you know?

468
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:25,040
Speaker 6: Listen, listen, find me somebody at the Old Testament, find

469
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 6: me somebody at the New Testament that can come play

470
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 6: for the goddamn Panthers and make a goddamn difference. Nobody, boy,

471
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,080
Speaker 6: Jesus himself will come down here them. Goddamn Sam was

472
00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 6: even waring. Ain't nothing changing. Funk is bad there. When

473
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 6: Sam Donald was there, they said it was Sam donald fault.

474
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,760
Speaker 6: When Bacon Mayfield was there, they said it when Baker

475
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 6: Mayfield's fault, Rice Young is there.

476
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 5: They said it is Bryce Young's fault.

477
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 6: Sam Donald a god damn Baker Mayfield on off too,

478
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 6: motherfucking historic starts again.

479
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Bacon.

480
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Speaker 2: I think Bacon might have went to the last year

481
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 2: something and he played very what else since he's got

482
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: out of that sets pool which is Carolina And.

483
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, Chad.

484
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 6: I want you stay with me real quick.

485
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 5: Listen to me.

486
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 6: Dave Temper knows Frank Wright got fired and begin eleven games.

487
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 6: He understands David Temper has a very short fuse and

488
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 6: had little to no patience at all, and not understanding

489
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 6: that it takes time. It takes time you knockinna buy

490
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 6: your way into having a successful team.

491
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 5: It takes time to build.

492
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 6: So I think Dave Canats is sitting back, well, you

493
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 6: know right now, I think my goddamn job is on

494
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 6: the line, Yeah, because I don't think we can win

495
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 6: with Bryce Young not understanding that elephant in the room

496
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 6: is more than just Bryce Young.

497
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Speaker 5: There are other issues that need to be addressed.

498
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Speaker 6: David Temper knows that mister Knealist knows that as well,

499
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Speaker 6: and I'm ask you one more thing. I'm gonna let

500
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 6: you talk, because if you don't stop me, I'm gonna

501
00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,480
Speaker 6: keep on going.

502
00:21:59,520 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

503
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 6: There's thirty one other quarterbacks in the team. Chat, be

504
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 6: honest with yourself. Thirty one other quarterbacks in the league

505
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 6: that are starters. Name one that would come that can

506
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 6: come to the Panthers team right now and make a

507
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,400
Speaker 6: goddamn difference. Please tell me. As matter of fact, I'm

508
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 6: going to the game this Sunday. I think the Panthers

509
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 6: are playing the Raiders in Vegas. I gotta work that game,

510
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 6: so now I get to see it in person. So

511
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 6: when we do the show Sunday night, what did I

512
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 6: tell you?

513
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 5: I just saw this person?

514
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:37,400
Speaker 6: It ain't bright, young, but go ahead, go ahead, I'm

515
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 6: thirty eight hot.

516
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 5: The problem that making that damn speech like he did issue.

517
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: The problem is is that owners, let's just say, owners

518
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 2: and ads. You get a team, a team that went

519
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 2: won one game or team that won three games, and

520
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 2: you expect, no matter who you hire, to come in

521
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden gonna be a playoff team.

522
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 2: Y'all come in, all of a sudden, You're in the

523
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,160
Speaker 2: college football playoffs. Do you realize how bad you were

524
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: before you got into before you change rezipt, you regime.

525
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 6: You know what the problem is. You know what the

526
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 6: problem is the people that positions of power. They're not

527
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 6: football guys. We have businessmen buying teams.

528
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the problem.

529
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 6: Businessmen that use money and they know that what money

530
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 6: does in the business world, it changes things right away.

531
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Speaker 5: Well, in the football world, that's not the way.

532
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 2: You sure, because in business you can create a product

533
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 2: and it changed a fortune just like that, whether it's

534
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 2: the iPhone or or the iPod or whatever the case

535
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: may be, you can create something and instantane, instantaneously, it

536
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: changes your life.

537
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: Now, if you're fortunate enough and you get a quarterback,

538
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: it can change, it can.

539
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: But but what about the piece? Do you have to remember?

540
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes went to a team that had Travis Kelcey

541
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: and Tyreek Hill, and if I'm not mistaken, it had

542
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: what's the guy, uh the running Kareem Hunt. But he

543
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,119
Speaker 2: I think he got in trouble and he ended up

544
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 2: they ended up shipping him out. But and then they

545
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: went and got Sammy Watkins. So they surrounded him. As

546
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: great as he was, they surrounded him with talent Yeah,

547
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 2: that's what you gotta have, no matter great, I don't

548
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 2: care how great. You gotta have something. And I'm not

549
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: saying that the guy you needed. Random all Jared, Rice

550
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: and Too all on one team.

551
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: But do they fit?

552
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 2: Do the pieces fit? And see that's what everybody said. Well,

553
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: Tom Brady ain't got no help, no, no, no. Those guys

554
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,879
Speaker 2: that Tom had they fit because everybody can't go. You

555
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: can't take guys that are being alpha dogs and used

556
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 2: to being the guy and said, Okay, you got two

557
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: basses this week, we're gonna run the ball forty times

558
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 2: like they did, like Edelman and Welker and and Amondola

559
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: and those guys that don't work for Jerry, that ain't

560
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: working for Too, that ain't working for Randy.

561
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 3: That ain't working on Joe.

562
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: And I tell people that, I said, y'all look at

563
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 2: and y'all look at Elbeman, y'all, look at Amon Dola, y'all,

564
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: look at Welcome, y'all, look at the receivers, and y'all think, well,

565
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 2: they're not Jared Race. No, but Jerry ain't playing that system.

566
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: You better get car of that damn ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

567
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: you better get Hey, you better give Marvin Harrison that ball. Okay,

568
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: better drive happened and Marvin ain't seen the ball? Okay,

569
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 2: y'all did that that quietness fool you man. Everybody can't

570
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 2: play in every system they think, Oh great, no no, no, no,

571
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:40,199
Speaker 2: no no.

572
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 3: You better get those guys the ball.

573
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: And we're gonna talk about Tom and saying how he

574
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: approached situations with the receiver, how he would talk each

575
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: and you hear me say this all the time. If

576
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: you're a leader, you can't leave it. Lead everybody the same.

577
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: If you're a coach, you can't coach everybody the same.

578
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,719
Speaker 2: You treat them all fair, but you don't treat them

579
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: all the same. You have to understand by being around,

580
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 2: being observant, talking and understand what's the best way. Oh oh,

581
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: he's so sensing. Okay, you try to you try that approach.

582
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 2: I'm just telling you, having been in the locker rooms,

583
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: Oh telling you, and I got over almost two and

584
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: a half decades in the locker room. I'm telling you

585
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 2: what somebody said. You could say somebody is sensitive and

586
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 2: solve all you want to, but if you approach the

587
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 2: wrong guy the wrong way, he gonna go outside your

588
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: head is gonna be a problem. So you have to

589
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: learn by talking to him, by watching a lot of times.

590
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: You watch you know guys that I'm you know you

591
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: form a relationship with. You watch them, who they talk

592
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: to in the room, How outgoing there are? Are they joking?

593
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: Are they laughing okay when they're on the field. Are

594
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: they how engaged artie. You get a sense of what

595
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 2: you can and can't say to certain people. You have

596
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: to understand that's a grown ass man. You're in't in

597
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 2: college now, you ain't in high school. So you being

598
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,479
Speaker 2: the captain and thinking you can talk to somebody a

599
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 2: certain way, and to get you lumped up, y'all, I'm

600
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: just telling you. I'm just telling you now. So don't

601
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 2: let that feel your shirt fool you like you like like,

602
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: if you're in high school, you the captain on the

603
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 2: team more time than not.

604
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: God the hard the captain ain't gonna try you.

605
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: If you're in college, learn who to talk to, how

606
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 2: to talk to him, Show everybody a certain level of

607
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: respect because they deserve it, or he'll take it. So

608
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: but we will get to what Tom saying a little later.

609
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 2: Someone who's familiar with the organization. Baker Mayfield was asked

610
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: about the Panthers decision to brinch Bryce Young.

611
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 3: This is what Baker had to say.

612
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 8: Obviously, mine didn't happen in the same time frame that price.

613
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 7: But quarterbacks are especially for young guys, when you're not

614
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 7: surrounded with the pieces that you.

615
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 8: Know, not giving the opportunity to have success. And so

616
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 8: that's a.

617
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,919
Speaker 7: Lot of the time guys have the talent, they might

618
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 7: have the brains, but they don't have the right opportunity

619
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 7: to right fit. I mean, I'm sitting here right now

620
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 7: in a way better fit the other places I've had,

621
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 7: And that's that's not to put other teams down, but it's.

622
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 8: A matter of the pieces around you, the.

623
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 7: Coaches, and for Bryce, the guy that you know, I

624
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 7: can relate to this, finding that belief within yourself again

625
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 7: and he'll get his stories far far from Fash's.

626
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 6: A key word, Yeah, one of the key words, he said,

627
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 6: the pieces around you. I said all the time, a

628
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 6: quarterback is only as good as that supporting cast.

629
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 5: You can only do so much. Yeah, now I'm not

630
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 5: supporting casts is bad. But there there's Oh cho I

631
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 5: could oh cho.

632
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: I can look at my plate and I got broccoli

633
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 2: and asparagus the mushroom, and I could believe man, that's

634
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: a steak man, that's chicken man, that's cramped leg.

635
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 3: I can believe all I want to.

636
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: That's broccoli, that's mushrooms, and that's whatever it is.

637
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 3: It is what it is.

638
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: I can believe all I want to in myself, But

639
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: if you don't give me the pieces around, believe it

640
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: in me and them not being able to do what

641
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 2: I need them to do is not going to It's

642
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: not it's not the day receiver you played the You

643
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: and I both play dependent positions, but a quarterback is

644
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: dependent also.

645
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: He's dependent on his receivers getting open.

646
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: He's dependent on the offensive line to protect his ass.

647
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: So we all play dependent positions.

648
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 2: Running back is dependent on the offensive line opening holes.

649
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: He's dependent on the tight end and the wide receiver's

650
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 2: blocking for it. He's dependent on the quarterback carrying out

651
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: the faith to hold the end on the back side.

652
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: We all play dependent positions, so everybody is dependent on

653
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: everybody else to do their job in order for us

654
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: to function and operate at maximum capacity. Right now, Yes,

655
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: he's lost confidence because he's never lost this many games.

656
00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: He's never he's he hasn't been it's bad in a

657
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 2: very long time, and.

658
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 3: So it's messing with him. So now he's thinking, is

659
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: it me? Is it me?

660
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: What did I do? What could I have done differently?

661
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: What should I have done differently?

662
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: I think there's nothing you can do to another team.

663
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 3: That's what you could do.

664
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 5: Nothing.

665
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 6: I hope Bryce Young see this, boy, don't you ever

666
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 6: question yourself as far as you come, as far as

667
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 6: you've come, even winning since high school he was probably winning,

668
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 6: and god damned junior high.

669
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 5: You look at the landscape. You've been playing football long

670
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: enough to know.

671
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 6: Don't you ever look at no marrior question yourself and

672
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 6: put out no goddamn statement like that.

673
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 8: Man.

674
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 6: I know you got to say it. You a quarterback,

675
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 6: you know you have to be PC. But nigga, please

676
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 6: excuse me, my man, Come on, man, don't do that.

677
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 8: Man.

678
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 6: And then also when you did your interview not too

679
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 6: long I think it was a last week on Yeah,

680
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 6: and he said, they asked him, how is your confidence? Oh,

681
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 6: my confidence in the Lord?

682
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 3: Listen.

683
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 6: I understand you know you're a man of God, a child,

684
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 6: but hey, well, don't answer that like that. Don't answer

685
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 6: that like that. Don't answer that like that. I mean,

686
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 6: the answer like that is a man to me.

687
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: That's lost confidence in himself, who lost.

688
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 6: His confidence to even say it's with him, we orreagnosed

689
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 6: with him. You ain't got to say that, right, You

690
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 6: ain't got to see that. I'm feeling good. I'm going,

691
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 6: but I'm a bounce back. I ain't lost nine bit

692
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 6: of confidence because it all started up anyway. The game

693
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 6: of football on chat, the game of football is ninety

694
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 6: percent mental, ninety especially at his position, with as much.

695
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:35,239
Speaker 5: As he got on this play unk.

696
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, this right.

697
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 5: He has got to be right.

698
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got a hundred things you.

699
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 5: Got to worry about when you come up by that huddle.

700
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 6: Believe though, Ojo, if you answering a question about your

701
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 6: confidence being with the man upstairs, he's going and it shot.

702
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: It is.

703
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: You and I both know playing the position. We believe.

704
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: I believe that was the baddest mofo on the field.

705
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: You believe the exact same thing. I don't care what,

706
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 2: I don't care who on the other side. I know

707
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: what I bring to the table. I know the work

708
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: that I put in. It's all that talking they was doing.

709
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: I know what look oh, Joe, I I almost got

710
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: traded twice. And I remember telling Mike. I went to

711
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: mic office. I said, make what you fail to realize?

712
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: They ain't another tight end that can do what I do.

713
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: And that's that. And I say that disrespectfully. You know

714
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Yeah, no, no, no, I'm saying that disrespectfully.

715
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: They ain't a more for out there. And I don't

716
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: care who you talking about. They can't touch me. They can't.

717
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: I say, how many tight is you know can go

718
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: get you one eighty? How many tight is you know?

719
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: Can go get your thirteen catches, get your three tubs

720
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: on thirteen targets. Come on now, I said, So I

721
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: get all of that you want to put you. I say,

722
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: but they can't do what I do. Not only can

723
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: they not do what I do, they can't do what

724
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: I do in the locker room. Yeah, that's the point

725
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: that you really failed, a miss. I said, But you

726
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 2: know what, one day, I ain't gonna be here and

727
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: you're gonna realize and all the stuff that was taken

728
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,239
Speaker 2: care of before it jumped on your desk, right you like, well,

729
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: damn where all these problems come from? M h Yeah, Hey, Ford,

730
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: took care of it before it ever got to you

731
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: got upstairs, I say so. But as I left the

732
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: Baltimore and it came back our relationship, he saw me

733
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: in a different light because sometimes you only see person

734
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: that's catching and touchdowns and you don't realize there's so

735
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: much more than that.

736
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 3: My value.

737
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: I never looked at my value as just being able

738
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 2: to catch the football or just being able to score

739
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: the touchdown. I had value in the locker room that

740
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: made sure guys were able to go do what they

741
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 2: needed to do on the field because I didn't let

742
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: locker room issues spill over, right, And you know, you

743
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: keep the piece you bridge, Like, Hey, at the end

744
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: of the day, we we gotta win together. Hey, I

745
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 2: understand we got differences, but the difference that we dealing with,

746
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 2: they ain't got nothing to do with this right here, right,

747
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 2: I said, because y'all arguing about somebody, y'all both at work,

748
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: y'all don't know what she doing. I'm gonna leave it

749
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: at that, right. Tom Brady used Jillian Edlman and Randy

750
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: Moss's two elite wide receivers as example to explain how

751
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: he approached his teammates based on their personality. If you

752
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: wanted Julia, who had incredible mental toughness, to play his best,

753
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: the way you do it is take him off. I

754
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: would say things like, Jules, wow, you look really sluggish today.

755
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: He glared at me and be so angry. But I

756
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: knew he channeled that energy to prove me wrong and

757
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: go out and lay great.

758
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: He said.

759
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 2: Randy was wired differently. Randy responded better to validation. Randy,

760
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: you look amazing out there, even in practice. If I

761
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: went too long without throwing him the ball, I go

762
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: over and say how much I valued him and remind

763
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: him that I was always looking for him on every play.

764
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: You see, yeah, you see, yeah, you.

765
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 2: See how you have to approach guys now, Randy and Julia.

766
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 2: Basically they wide receivers. One a slot was not right.

767
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: But you gotta play.

768
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 5: Completely completely different mindsets.

769
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 6: You gotta be able to. You gotta be able to

770
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 6: as a quarterback. You gotta be able to manipulate them

771
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 6: to keep them engaged. You don't want to get you

772
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 6: want to want to lose a moss up here in game.

773
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 6: You know how hard that is to get him back

774
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 6: on track.

775
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, somebody like that.

776
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 6: But once you lose him up here and they check

777
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 6: out mentally in the game because the ain't getting.

778
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 5: The ball, oh shit, or don't get it? Hey, oh

779
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 5: think and don't get it.

780
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 2: Prime example, O yo, prime example. Look at Randy Moss

781
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: in no years in Oakland. Look at Randy Moss when

782
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 2: he got the New England mm hmm. That's all I'm

783
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: gonna say.

784
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 6: Hey, it wasn't nothing wrong with him. It was nothing

785
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 6: wrong with him at all. Nothing, But they'll play.

786
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: You see your leader, You see what your leader did.

787
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: He understood the personalities, he understood his teammates, and he

788
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: knew how to approach him. You see, y'all. Hey, man, man, hey,

789
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: Randy just being.

790
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 5: Okay, Now, y'all do it y'all way.

791
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: I gonna tell you. You do it y'all way, and

792
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: each boss you do it differently.

793
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, if you want to be a great leader,

794
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: if you want to be a leader of men, yes, sir,

795
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 2: you understand their personalities and you understand what makes them tick,

796
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: and you appeal to that. Because all I'm trying to

797
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: do is get the maximum out of you. See, my

798
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: job is to make sure that I get more out

799
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 2: of you than you think you can give me. See,

800
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 2: that's what a coach is supposed to do. A coach

801
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: is supposed to push your player, father, and he can

802
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 2: think he can go on his own and get more

803
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: on you than you, even though you got in you.

804
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: So that's what coming back and watching and listening. I

805
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: listened to the guys talk. When I say something, I

806
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: listened who laughed, who gave a little rot smile? I

807
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 2: watch how they maneuver it in the locker room. I

808
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: watch them in the cafeteria. Sometimes I just go into

809
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: the cafeteria. See what they ate, see how they dress,

810
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: see how they moved. I'm all often, Hey, how soon

811
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 2: they get to work?

812
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 3: Oh Joe?

813
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: How early they show up for the plane? When they're

814
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: on the plane. How engaged were with the teammates? Were

815
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: they on their little DVD players? Were they watching a movie?

816
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: What would? What were they doing? After a while, I

817
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: had a good sense who I could joke with. Hey, hey, bro,

818
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: my grandma could have caught that one. Hey you know

819
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: what I'm saying?

820
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: Hey, things like that, Hey, damn bro, what you do

821
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 3: last night? Right?

822
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: You get a good sense of who you can and

823
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: who you can't. And once you, once you appeal to.

824
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 5: That you're good.

825
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: See when people say I don't want to know about

826
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: yes you do. You want some bad Hey, O Joe,

827
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: you did good today, Ojo, That's that's nice. Oh man,

828
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: O Joe. Man you saw O Joe Man, o Jo

829
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 2: got the PURNI tea hair, clean skin, Lizzen.

830
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, we all.

831
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: Yes, you promote. If you get a promotion on your job,

832
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: that's validation. Yes, that's why people take get upset.

833
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 3: Ojo.

834
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: Man, I ain't get that promotion. I do see you

835
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 2: in the validation. Man, I show up on time, I

836
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: do all my work. I've been here, X Y and

837
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: zus many see. So athletes want that too. I feel

838
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: that I've earned it, not what I just want what

839
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: I earned. And so that level of respect that comes

840
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: along with the way I played, with the way I've

841
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: conducted myself. Man, I'm telling you to hear Tom. I mean,

842
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: he's not telling me anything. Having been in locker rooms,

843
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: having been a leader of a team, you understand this,

844
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: O Joe. You've been around this thing. You know how

845
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 2: guys function. And when you win a lot of games,

846
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 2: and Tom, it's one more game than anybody from a

847
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: player standpoint, and you might not go fight it. You

848
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: might not find another player to win that many games again,

849
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: So he understands.

850
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 3: And you notice.

851
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: They don't nobody say anything bad about Tom. I think

852
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: that might be his not the touchdown passes, not the

853
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 2: Super Bowl wins, not the playoffs. Is that what guys

854
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: say about him, not to his face, but behind his back.

855
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: That's the That's the mark of a great teammate, of

856
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: a great leader, of a great person.

857
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 3: All that other stuff.

858
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we know the numbers, but look how his teammate

859
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: speak of it.

860
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 5: Always positives, always away.

861
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 6: I was one of them. I was one of them,

862
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 6: and I didn't know. I didn't know what to expect.

863
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 6: When I got to New England. You know what I did.

864
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 6: I got a understanding of who he was, and I

865
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 6: got a better understanding of why they always won.

866
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 5: And it starts at the motherfucking top, it does, and it.

867
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 6: Trickles all the way down to the goddamn head coach

868
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 6: and the quarterback.

869
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 5: That together were special. It was special.

870
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 6: It was special, and I wish, I wish y'all could

871
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 6: have been inside. And one of the other things I

872
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 6: said to myself was, for god, damn, Tom is really cool.

873
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 6: But the Tom that he portrays on camera ain't really talking.

874
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 3: About got to protect the image.

875
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 6: Now having to protect that image being in New England.

876
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 6: Now he kind of came out of shell when he

877
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 6: was in Tampa a little bit.

878
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, they came out of shap.

879
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 2: A little bit, started getting I g a little more,

880
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 2: started started starting to present himself a little more. And

881
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: I think that was the hardest thing. I think the

882
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: hardest thing when people like I haven't really heard Tom

883
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 2: do really do a game. I think the thing is

884
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: people like you're saying things, let's say, but you have

885
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: to understand he spent his entire career of not saying nothing,

886
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 2: and now he wants people to listen to what he

887
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: has to say.

888
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 3: See, that's the heart. That's the part that people are

889
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 3: trying to get over.

890
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 5: Tom.

891
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 2: You never said anything, you never spoke, You only gave

892
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: us cliches, you only gave us coach bet.

893
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 3: But it's early.

894
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 2: Like I said that, he's only gonna get better because

895
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: he's gonna put the work in to get better. So

896
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I said, I don't I look,

897
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: and I think the thing is is that what he's

898
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: up against, the two guys that preceded him and to

899
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: go to the number one spot Tony Romo and Greg Osen.

900
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: Greg Osen wont anm me. Tony Romo was was was

901
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: lightning in the bottle? So what so?

902
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 3: What?

903
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 8: So?

904
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 2: What do they expect now with Joe? Everybody that come off? Man,

905
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: he ain't Tony Romo, He ain't Greg Osen?

906
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 5: What damn?

907
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: Some people are natural. That's just like saying quarterback. Well,

908
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: because if a rookie quarterback, no, well he ain't no

909
00:41:56,120 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: CJ strouds what damn? Everybody ain't CJ. A lot of

910
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: people that wasn't see J.

911
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 3: Stroud.

912
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,959
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean they can't be good. Some people get

913
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: better over time. And I think Tom that's what Tom's

914
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: gonna be. But that's the that's the thing that he's

915
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: working against, is that the expectations people have and how

916
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: they saw him. But I mean, what y'all want him

917
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: to do?

918
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: Right? What you want him to do? Y'all don't think

919
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: he know the game?

920
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 2: You don't think you don't think he knows what he's

921
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: talking about from coverage from the front. Absolutely, but his

922
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: thing is not I don't think he'll ever be a

923
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: guy like Romo that would like a lot of times

924
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: like sometimes he would tell you to play well, I

925
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: think this is what's gonna come jail.

926
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 6: You know, it's funny with Romo as a quarterback. I

927
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 6: think Tom had that same that same visual based on

928
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 6: a formation based on down and distance, based on the

929
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 6: team and their tendency and what they like.

930
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 5: He could probably guess it too.

931
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: Yes, and a lot of these courts, does he know.

932
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, Bingo and thinks you know, offenses don't change no

933
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 6: matter where coordinated, though they take that same off.

934
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: Wretch. Yeah. Yeah, that's why he knows Spagnola so well.

935
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 3: He knows facts.

936
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: He played, He played against those defense So yeah, I

937
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: just and and and and Troy guys are really good.

938
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: But damn get a man some time. Damn y'all wanted

939
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: y'all wanted the man to be John Madden rested. So

940
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: y'all wanted to be John madd not the box.

941
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 5: At week one? Uh they did.

942
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 3: Oh Joe.

943
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: Mayl Kip for having a hell of a check this

944
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 2: morning on how to insert more downfield passing back into

945
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 2: the professional games. The NFL is being ruined by these

946
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: two high safeties. Two high safety should be outlawed.

947
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 8: What what?

948
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 5: What is mal talking about man.

949
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 6: This is since what happened when somebody has has has

950
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 6: been in the position that has it never played the game,

951
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,959
Speaker 6: but it studied the game and knows a lot about

952
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 6: the players coming out of college and knows the ends

953
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 6: and the outs and all all the little nuances. And

954
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 6: then he talks good and during the draft. Now you're

955
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 6: saying something needs to be outlawed for what?

956
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 8: For what?

957
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 6: How about you realize that the goddamn offensive line play

958
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 6: is fucking horrible this season. That's why the guy damn horrible.

959
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 6: Look at the left tackles. Look at the right tackles

960
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 6: in today's game, look at it.

961
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 5: Pay attention.

962
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 6: You'll see why they goddamn numbers are down. It has

963
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 6: nothing to do with goddamn cover two to man, none

964
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 6: of that shit. Or two safety looks like goddamn mal shit.

965
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 6: I mean so so in other words, so in other words,

966
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 6: he wants the touchdown rate to keep going up. I mean,

967
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 6: he'll gonna be satisfied till you got five quarterback throwing

968
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 6: for fifty touchdowns in the season. And guess what, when

969
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 6: damn Marino threw for forty eight touchdown they played cover too.

970
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 6: When Peyton Manny threw for fifty five, they played cover too.

971
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 6: When Tom played throw for fifty, they played cover too.

972
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 6: When Patrick Maholls throw for fifty, they played cover too.

973
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: Marino threw for forty a five thousand yards back in

974
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: the eighties, they play cover two.

975
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 5: It's just ridiculous and matter of fact, how about this,

976
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 5: If you're gonna take out the.

977
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 6: Two high safety, right, you got corners having to play

978
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 6: man and man with some of these elite receivers not

979
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 6: having no goddamn help.

980
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 5: They need the motherfucking raise.

981
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 6: The goddamn paid for the dv's and no, let the

982
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 6: let's let the DBS make sure the DB's making thirty

983
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 6: men in here.

984
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 5: If they got to cover these Xavier Worthy and.

985
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 6: Crystal Olive and uh Rashishi Heat and all these fast dudes.

986
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it leaving.

987
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: I won't make it either, for if no more cover two,

988
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: you can't have a wide receiver on the field that

989
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 2: runs for three or faster. Since we since you want to,

990
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 2: you want to hand the captain defense they got they

991
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: got to play on this single high. Okay, all your

992
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 2: receivers got to run it. Leads four folk run food high.

993
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 5: That's that's a. That's a trip, man. Come on, man,

994
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 5: I love you. Listen, mel I love you and I

995
00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 5: respect your baby.

996
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: But come on, man, you do realize they went to

997
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 2: that they used to All they played was single high

998
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: safety until Bob Hayes. Bob Hayes came into the league.

999
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: How you the world fastest man. You're gonna play him

1000
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: in single house with a man coverage?

1001
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1002
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: He the fastest man on the planet, and you got

1003
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: a dB. Now, remember now is dancing like Ginger Rogers

1004
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: and Fredi Staire. Ginger Rogers had a harder job because

1005
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 2: she did everything Freda Staire did, and she did it

1006
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: backwards in heels. So we're asking these dbs to do

1007
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: everything Tyreek Hill does, but I need you to do it.

1008
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,959
Speaker 3: Backwards backwards with no help.

1009
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 5: That's crazy. It be a touchdown on every play.

1010
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: If you had, if you just had to play single house, yeah,

1011
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 2: for sure, touchdown. But it's gonna be a lot of yards.

1012
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 6: Listen, you play off at seven yards and keep everything

1013
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 6: in front of you. But all they're gonna do is

1014
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 6: march right down to god damn field.

1015
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to be able to switch it up.

1016
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: You gotta play cover too. You gotta play quarters. You

1017
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: gotta play fifty five, you gotta play six kicks, you

1018
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: gotta play seven eighty eight bucks.

1019
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 6: Come on, I don't think I don't think Mail was

1020
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 6: thinking like I did you think that process through? You know,

1021
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 6: there's there's a reason for different coverages, there's a reason

1022
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 6: for different different defenses.

1023
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 5: You know, it makes the.

1024
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 6: Game difficult for quarterbacks, so they don't know where to

1025
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 6: go with the ball, right, and there's a reasonably bluff.

1026
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 5: That's a reason why the safety dropped down.

1027
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 6: I mean, there's a reason why they got THEMN office

1028
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 6: the live ship stright before the you know snapper the ball, Like.

1029
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 5: Come on, man Ojo.

1030
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 2: You remember in college. You remember in college they say, man,

1031
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: y'all need to do what the no huddle the spread?

1032
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: These are these no huddle offenses. They're gonna get somebody.

1033
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 3: No, you have to.

1034
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to coach your team up and get

1035
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: them in better shape so they can handle them where.

1036
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get your quarterback smarter and understand

1037
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: where to go with the football, get them to study

1038
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: better and stop putting the ball in the arm's way

1039
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 2: because they're not telling the offense. Well, you can't run empty.

1040
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: You can't run five wids, you can't run three by one,

1041
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: you can't run. Come on, man, y'all just want the

1042
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: office to just to go up and down, y'all. So

1043
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: just I'll tell you what this this happened. DB's the

1044
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: defense played with once you You can only watch you, Dan,

1045
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: y'all at some point in time. Damn, let the defense win.

1046
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: Give me something, Joe, let me win something, well, Dana.

1047
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 6: All the damn rules to end this in today's game

1048
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 6: are predicated towards the offensive players. They got the goddamn

1049
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 6: not mail. You can't touch the receivers past five yards.

1050
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 6: You can't touch you can't do nothing. Now he wants

1051
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:30,479
Speaker 6: to hit him.

1052
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 3: Too hard, Oh, Joe, remember I can't hit him too

1053
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 3: hard either.

1054
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 5: Oh you can't hit him and back.

1055
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 6: You can't make him think twice aboy coming across that

1056
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 6: God damn middle receivers be out there catching stuff like

1057
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,359
Speaker 6: the mona Lisa smiling, one hand in the air.

1058
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to think. I can't remember.

1059
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 2: I'm I'm sure it might have happened, but I don't

1060
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: remember all these catches with one hand, Like you see

1061
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: these guys going across the middle. Yeah, look a pretty

1062
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 2: and these guys checked the free step flint route, Oh

1063
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 2: joe A three steps man, Mike single charac boy.

1064
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 5: And your head had been listen, your head would have

1065
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 5: been rolling black.

1066
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 2: You'd have a vibor over your ear hole because that's

1067
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: what you've been looking out of as soon as you

1068
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: brought you as soon as you brought your answer to

1069
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 2: that three step flat right on, Yo, you better let

1070
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: that back of clear man.

1071
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 5: Well, you better than me. Hit me, hit me in

1072
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 5: the second window, sir.

1073
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 3: Ye, thank you hit me in the second single tar clear.

1074
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: You better let raiding him clear offer doll and all

1075
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: those guys earl Lacker a free step flint.

1076
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't want I don't wante of that.

1077
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: Nope, nope, mm hmm nope. That ain't nothing but a headache.

1078
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: That that's where that's where you're sitting on the bench

1079
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: and the trainer. How many fingers that got up got out.

1080
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 8: What you have?

1081
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 3: He had, that's what he doing. You know here you okay,

1082
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 3: mm hmmm, you know where you are? What they have

1083
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 3: for breakfa this morning?

1084
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 5: Oh? I remember them day stop?

1085
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: Oh yoe.

1086
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: Dan Campbell is selling his home after the Lions fans

1087
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 2: found his address after after NFC Championship lost. Dan Campbell

1088
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: has listed his five bedroom, seventh bathroom Bloomfield Hills, Michigan

1089
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: home he shares with his family for four point five

1090
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: million due to security concerns.

1091
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: There's plenty of space. It's on two acres. Al Uh.

1092
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: The home is beautiful. It is just people figured out

1093
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: where we live when we lost. O Joe, what's your

1094
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: take on this?

1095
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I just says that's putting his family,

1096
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 5: his kids in danger. Come on, danger?

1097
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 3: Is that serious?

1098
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 5: Ojo? I mean with fans, I've never never I mean

1099
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 5: I've never experienced it, you know, to that nature. Uh.

1100
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 5: But but for the sake of his family and his kids,

1101
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 5: is it's okay to move? Yeah?

1102
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got it.

1103
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 6: If anything, if anything, I mean, I would hate to say,

1104
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 6: maybe you need to hire twenty four hour security detail.

1105
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 5: But you shouldn't have to.

1106
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: Give the coach Jay z he I mean like I mean,

1107
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: I mean, like you, Jay Z, Beyondes, you Lebron, You're

1108
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: one of those guys somebody like that, you know you

1109
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 2: Oprah or you like you know you somebody like that.

1110
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 5: But the coach should have to do that. Yeah, but

1111
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 5: just just to be safe though, huh oh yeah, just the.

1112
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 6: Fact that the fact that you have to up and

1113
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,959
Speaker 6: move is that yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure it would

1114
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 6: probably make your wife uncomfortable, It would make the kids uncomfortable.

1115
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 6: So just for their safety, to make them feel secure,

1116
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 6: you know, security, twenty four hour security, just you know,

1117
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 6: watching over.

1118
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 5: I wouldn't I honestly, I wouldn't move.

1119
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 6: I would just have the security detail on hand during

1120
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 6: the time your families come home and the wife would

1121
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 6: come to home.

1122
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 3: And the key.

1123
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 5: I mean, not that twenty four hour security not as

1124
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 5: expensive as you think.

1125
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 3: Twenty four hours Joe.

1126
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 5: I mean I don't. I don't really, I don't really

1127
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 5: think it's that much. I mean, if goddamn security all

1128
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 5: the goddamn.

1129
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 2: Time I talk about your homeward security, now about real

1130
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 2: I'll talk about I'll tell you I was this trip

1131
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: that's trade.

1132
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: Uh, situations I got, like you know what I'm saying,

1133
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: like that.

1134
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 6: Think but the fact that he has to move it

1135
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 6: doesn't make it any better because everything is public knowledge.

1136
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 6: Everything is public information if you know where to live.

1137
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 6: So I mean, it's it's it's unfortunate. So you don't

1138
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 6: want to be hopping from place to place to place

1139
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 6: every time fans find out where you got damn leave.

1140
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 6: If anything, If if I was if I was mister Campbell,

1141
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 6: if I was mister Campbell, I stay put. Get that

1142
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 6: twenty four hour security you tail when when the kids

1143
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 6: are home, when the wife is home, or they're coming

1144
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 6: home from school, and and and.

1145
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: I just I just have it like that.

1146
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, Joe, I could answerly say, and this

1147
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: the gods on this truth.

1148
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: I never want to be that famous.

1149
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 2: I still wanted to maintain a level of I mean,

1150
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: this celebrity that that has been, that its thrust that

1151
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: I've that I've that.

1152
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:01,399
Speaker 3: I've had over the last year and some change. Yeah, yeah,

1153
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine.

1154
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: I mean I'm trying to you know, meeting Michael and

1155
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 2: to see him and to see the security detail with it,

1156
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 2: to see Lebron and to see and to see these

1157
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 2: people and to see the detail that's with them. Man, Yeah,

1158
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: Lebron ain't going to no target. I bet Lebron ain't

1159
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: never been to target. Bron ain't probably been to the

1160
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: movies the movie theater since high school. I'm talking about

1161
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: buy him, you know, what I'm saying here and Savannah,

1162
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 2: he and the board.

1163
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 3: He can't do none of that, right, I can't.

1164
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 8: You know.

1165
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 6: You know what's funny is I couldn't be lebron type

1166
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 6: famous because I'm too fucking friendly.

1167
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 3: Now, you wouldn't be that way, I go think about it.

1168
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 6: Can you imagine if I imagine me being Lebron type

1169
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 6: famous and I'm fly places and I'm asking people to

1170
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 6: pick me up from the airport.

1171
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 2: That would never happen because you your your risk and

1172
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,760
Speaker 2: they would. The First of all, you have to understand

1173
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: familiarity breeds contempt.

1174
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1175
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 3: You have to be careful. You have to be careful.

1176
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 3: You if you were that famous, you wouldn't do that.

1177
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 3: You don't think so?

1178
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 5: Hell no, I think I would. I wouldn't change.

1179
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 2: You don't understand what that level of fame is. First

1180
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: of all, you would be you wouldn't be flying like that,

1181
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: you'd be flying private.

1182
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 8: For one.

1183
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 6: If I was that famous and I was still making

1184
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 6: that kind of money, I definitely a flying private.

1185
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: And your your your your your your, your yourself safety.

1186
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 2: Ri Now, if you wouldn't to put your life on

1187
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 2: the line and your family life on the line, will

1188
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: go ahead and have had it.

1189
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 5: Nah, and then I'm low key anyway, So I really

1190
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 5: would I wouldn't be in the line like.

1191
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 3: Be low key with you and that famous How you

1192
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: gonna be low key in that favor?

1193
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:46,879
Speaker 5: Easy?

1194
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 8: I'm not.

1195
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 5: I'm not six ' nine.

1196
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: O yo, you said that? So where you think lel

1197
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 3: L MESSI going.

1198
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 6: All you got to do is dress normal, dress normal,

1199
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 6: put a hat on. Nobody know it's you can you know, listen,

1200
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 6: oh little I got something for you.

1201
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:02,360
Speaker 5: How about this?

1202
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 6: You know how slabs You know how they always go

1203
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 6: ahead guys? Yeah, they they were surprised. Oh we saw

1204
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 6: so and so together. You know, they call them people,

1205
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 6: they call them photographers to let them know this is

1206
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 6: what we're gonna be at. You know, you had your

1207
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 6: pr hit them though, it's really gonna be at. And

1208
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 6: they catch you taking pictures where you don't want to

1209
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 6: be seen.

1210
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 5: It's easy not to be seen.

1211
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 2: No, here's the thing though, O Joe if oh, oh Joe,

1212
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 2: you're gonna be at the grove. Hey man, guess guess

1213
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: who on the reservation lifted list tonight as such as

1214
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: such at the grove right right right? Okay came slides

1215
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 2: or something. See now, how you think they get you?

1216
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: That's why you can't. That's why from the police. Anybody

1217
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 2: come in the police bartle. They got somebody there, They

1218
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: got somebody at the courthouse. That's how information get out

1219
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: on yo, people, do you understand what the cat say?

1220
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 2: Cat told us, I'll pay for information, all these sites

1221
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 2: of pay for information.

1222
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: That's how they knew.

1223
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: What did they know about the situation just happened? They

1224
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 2: knew Diddy was about to get arrested.

1225
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 5: Didn't it.

1226
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: Before it even happened, they had started reporting on it.

1227
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 6: Oh, in matter of fact, let me tell you. Let

1228
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 6: me tell you the game they playing too. Now, let

1229
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 6: me tell you, Oh, he's on suicide Watch.

1230
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 3: Let me tell you.

1231
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 5: Hold on, let me tell you the game they playing

1232
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 5: that hold on? Yeah, I said bad.

1233
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 3: I just feel bad.

1234
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 2: I feel bad because I think, you know, in a

1235
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 2: situation like this, I guess. I guess, Oh, Joey, if

1236
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: I was a fan like that, fan is sure for fanatic,

1237
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: I guess I.

1238
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: Just don't care.

1239
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 2: No, I ain't fin to call nobody, I ain't fin

1240
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 2: to curse nobody out about no game, right, But I

1241
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 2: definitely ain't going to somebody house people got the ability

1242
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: to protect themselves. Man, that man feel like his family

1243
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 2: being threatened and let everybody have it. Yeah, come on, fans, come.

1244
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: On, I get it.

1245
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: I mean Detroit, Detroit, I mean neither the NFC Championship

1246
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: game and it was like one game away they had

1247
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 2: won something system what fifty seven?

1248
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: Come on, I get it.

1249
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 5: Come on, fans, we get we gotta do better than this. Now,

1250
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:21,959
Speaker 5: y'all going to the man's house.

1251
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: M h And that's there for me, job sock. I'm

1252
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 3: really sorry.

1253
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, my little brother, right, my little brother, just

1254
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 6: text me, say you talk about if you was Lebron famous,

1255
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 6: talk about somebody catching it's about man food.

1256
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 5: They hold you for ransom.

1257
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, you ain't talk about you talk about

1258
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: oh dumb please, that's why he one ding.

1259
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 5: That's right, man. Listen, God, God do better. God, God,

1260
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 5: all your kids, all your kids.

1261
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, got God knows better than the blessing

1262
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 6: with that that that kind of thing, you know, because.

1263
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 2: Gave me more fame. He gave guess what, oh Joe,

1264
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 2: he gave me more fame than I deserve. Yeah, he

1265
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 2: gave me way more, way more.

1266
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 3: Than I deserve. Yeah, but you know it is what

1267
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 3: it is now you it comes, it comes along with

1268
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: a territory.

1269
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 7: Uh.

1270
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: As you start to make a certain level, you start

1271
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 2: to get good at a particular something. Yeah, excuse me,

1272
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 2: especially for if if it's a professional sport, because now

1273
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 2: you're on television, people recognize you, especially like basketball, because

1274
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 2: they can see your face. We're we're in the light,

1275
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: you know, we do digitally, we're on television, linear television.

1276
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 2: People see us without without the helmet. So we're more recognizable,

1277
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: more visible. Now maybe with that kind of money. Man,

1278
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: they're still the hell out their kids. All your how

1279
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 2: many kids? What you have to have security on all

1280
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: your kids?

1281
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 5: Mm hmm my kids carry that's right, and they can't

1282
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 5: please you can't. Hey, you have to put all you

1283
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 5: have to put all that thing. Yeah, you got you.

1284
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 3: That's the life.

1285
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 5: That's theah. That's that's different. That's different. Listen.

1286
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 3: I would I wouldn't.

1287
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 5: I wouldn't wish that on nobody anyway. I wouldn't wish

1288
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 5: that on nobody, you know. And the funny thing about

1289
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 5: it is, there's certain individuals, there's a select.

1290
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 6: Few that are at that height of fame and power

1291
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 6: or select few, and the fact and its just like

1292
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 6: anywhere you.

1293
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 3: Go in the world.

1294
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 2: You know, it don't matter like you go, you go

1295
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 2: to Africa, you go to Russia, you go to China.

1296
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 2: You know there's not a place. I mean, you're gonna

1297
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: have to go to some of the most remote places

1298
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: on the continent for them not to know who you are.

1299
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, can you go to you know they're

1300
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: gonna know I.

1301
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 5: Could do it.

1302
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 6: I couldn't do it because I'm just too sociable. I'm

1303
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 6: too fucking frid I like to I like to be

1304
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 6: out and and Jordan, you.

1305
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 2: Have to understand, as you Skojo, what you fail to

1306
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: realize as you start to get that level, you start

1307
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 2: to distance yourself.

1308
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 3: You can't be that way.

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01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 5: You don't think Lebron. You don't think Lebron was sociable

1310
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 5: at one point in time.

1311
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: Jordan was sociable at one time, Tiger was sociable at

1312
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 2: one time. All the people that you're talking about with

1313
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 2: social at one time. Then you start to realize, where

1314
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: can I go? And you got to sign ten thousand autographs,

1315
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: take fifty thousand pictures, damn you.

1316
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 5: Know how miserable. Yes, I'm glad that I'm That's why

1317
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 5: I'm glad. I'm right.

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01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: Well everybody, yes, yes, it's like because like you think

1319
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: about Ojo.

1320
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Speaker 3: You signed fifty autograph. You don't sign fifty one. You

1321
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 3: a dick. Ben o'jo's an asshole. He was hire. He's

1322
01:00:53,960 --> 01:01:00,320
Speaker 3: a for liar. You so bad bad Fojo. He do

1323
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 3: all that talking. Man I has to brought for a pick,

1324
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: brought him signed five hundred.

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Speaker 5: The volume. M hm