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Speaker 1: the story of the day. Robert Sola gets fired, And

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Speaker 1: just just doing Packer things. Probably just cruise to ten

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Speaker 1: eleven wins, wild card. Might might not win the division,

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Speaker 1: but we'll be the sixth seed. You know, Jets will

429
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Speaker 1: be drafting seventh because that's usually Raiders be drafting sixth.

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Speaker 1: We'll draft twenty third and you know, have a decent

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Speaker 1: chance to win a playoff game, play the whoever the

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say forty nine, but we got a

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Speaker 1: long way to go before that happens. So yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean today was I guess the overall theme of the

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Speaker 1: day predictable. Okay, let's bang out a little mail bag

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire in those dms?

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Speaker 1: Get your question answered here on the show. We have

438
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Speaker 1: a lot going on obviously with the old Sala have

439
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Speaker 1: to immediately fire this question after the solid news should

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Speaker 1: the Niners bring back Sala as their DC. Look, I

441
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Speaker 1: guess it's not realistic for the Niners to demote fire

442
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Speaker 1: their new DC after five games, but I'm extremely envious

443
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: the Chiefs getting to hold onto spags. Nobody's gonna hire

444
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Speaker 1: sla as the new head coach anytime soon, and the

445
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Speaker 1: Niners are currently in a spot whether their DC gets

446
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Speaker 1: fired or hired away thoughts. I would do it in rbat. Listen,

447
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 1: what's the statement in business like be quick to fire,

448
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Speaker 1: be quick to make changes when you know obviously at

449
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Speaker 1: the highest level. I'm not talking about just like fire

450
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Speaker 1: the fucking maid because he didn't take out the trash.

451
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about in a situation where you hope the

452
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Speaker 1: DC would be good enough, but he might not be

453
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Speaker 1: just higher Sola. Now, does Salis still want to do that?

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Speaker 1: He got a lot of money. He hasn't been an

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Speaker 1: Devensive coordinator in a while, right, It's a lot more work.

456
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Speaker 1: Ulbrick has been doing the heavy lifting. But if he'd

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Speaker 1: be down, I'd bring him back tomorrow. I'd fire that

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Speaker 1: or to demote the guy again. This is this is

459
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Speaker 1: big business. Guys are making millions. You ain't worried about feelings.

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Speaker 1: It would be a little herky jerky, but a little

461
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Speaker 1: desperate right now, from what I see, I don't expect

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Speaker 1: it to happen, but if it did, like I have

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Speaker 1: no problem with it. You know this isn't like, well,

464
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Speaker 1: you just gave him an opportunity. Yeah, these opportunities pay

465
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Speaker 1: two to three million dollars a year, and what our

466
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Speaker 1: expectations to compete for Super Bowls? And right now we

467
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 1: can't stop Matt Stafford and Kyler Murray. So you get

468
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Speaker 1: demoted and we bring back Robert solid which are star players.

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Speaker 1: Nick Bosa and more importantly, Fred Warner love love the show.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the Steelers offense would be better or

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Speaker 1: worse if Wilson was under center? Seems like Pitt should

472
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Speaker 1: be doing so much more. I don't think they'd be

473
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Speaker 1: any better. He's a dink and dunk guy, you know,

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Speaker 1: the one thing justin Fields gives you as a more

475
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Speaker 1: explosive player. But he's not as consistent on the dinking

476
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Speaker 1: and dunking, which Russell Wilson is kind of mastered, I

477
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Speaker 1: would say over the last couple of years. But if

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Speaker 1: you're a Steeler fan, do you want to watch Russell Wilson,

479
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Speaker 1: see the guy the last couple of years, at least

480
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Speaker 1: with Justin feels there is a possibility at any moment

481
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Speaker 1: something great could happen. Both guys are really flawed. I

482
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Speaker 1: would take my chances with Fields over Russell Wilson. What

483
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Speaker 1: would be my take? Is there any hope for the

484
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Speaker 1: Bengals to make the playoffs? Win the next few and

485
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Speaker 1: somewhere around nine to seven or is it already over?

486
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Speaker 1: You have no chance at the playoffs win? Your defense

487
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Speaker 1: is that bad? Just none? You know, if you played

488
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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson seventeen straight games, yeah you'd be in good shape.

489
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Speaker 1: But a defense who looks that bad? And now we

490
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Speaker 1: have some, you know evidence, watching them against Washington, watching

491
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Speaker 1: them obviously against the Ravens, even a couple of weeks

492
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Speaker 1: ago against Andy Dalton. It's got why like Andy Dolton

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Speaker 1: and and the Panthers against the Bears, Well, turns out

494
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: the Bears defense good and the Bengals is not. So

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Speaker 1: I think you're looking at this thing getting away from

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Speaker 1: them pretty fast. If you can't win a game at

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Speaker 1: home when your quarterback's that good, I can't take you seriously.

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Speaker 1: He was, He was brilliant. Your offense was brilliant. You

499
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Speaker 1: have to win that game. You have to win that game.

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Speaker 1: Even John Harbaugh was like, I would watch this press conference.

501
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: He's like, man, you know, we're down about ten points

502
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Speaker 1: three different times in the fourth quarter, and our guys

503
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: were just pulling plays out of you know where. You

504
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: just can't lose that game. You lose that game. I

505
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Speaker 1: just can't take you here. And to me, the Bengals

506
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Speaker 1: are not a playoff team. Been listening for a few

507
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Speaker 1: years now. I'm curious on your thoughts regarding the dominance

508
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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs run defense. I watch virtually every NFL

509
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Speaker 1: game and haven't seen such a dominant defensive unit like

510
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Speaker 1: this in a very long time. I saw a stat

511
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Speaker 1: where all the top running backs they faced are averaging

512
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Speaker 1: about two point two yards per carry. Just in their

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Speaker 1: eleven game win streak. They've completely shut down all the

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Speaker 1: premiere backs King, Henry Kamara, Cook, McCaffrey, and Robinson to

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Speaker 1: name a few. Well, this might be incorrect, and maybe

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Speaker 1: if I was sitting with Spags and I said this,

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Speaker 1: he would pushback against this. One thing they have going

518
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Speaker 1: for him is they have corners who can cover. So

519
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: when you have corners who can cover, you can cheat,

520
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: and you can have your safeties cheat closer to the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. They obviously Nick is a fly around linebacker,

522
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Speaker 1: and they have really good defensive linemen. So when you

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Speaker 1: can get penetration and your linebackers and your safeties can

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Speaker 1: cheat in the run game because you feel confident on

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Speaker 1: your outside dbs covering guys in man demand situations, it's

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Speaker 1: a huge curve ball. Most people cannot do that because

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Speaker 1: they don't trust their dbs. And the other thing he

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Speaker 1: is as a play caller is an incredible blitzer. So

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Speaker 1: when you blitz and it feels like his blitz calls

530
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Speaker 1: like he's the Andy of blitz calls. What Andy is

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Speaker 1: the offense I play calling and getting it right. He

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Speaker 1: is that to defensive play calling that you get a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys in the defensive backfield, and you get

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys that I would say just are

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Speaker 1: able to have tackles for losses because you're penetrating the backfield.

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Speaker 1: You're not just relying on your defensive lineman. You've talked

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Speaker 1: about who Netflix should hire for the Christmas game. After

538
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens Bengals game, I think they should call Kevin Harlan.

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Speaker 1: He is so electric and deserves to call some primetime games,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you agree? Yeah, I mean he's he's awesome. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's obviously great at the NBA. He's great. If you're

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00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: ever in the car on a Monday night, he usually

543
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: calls or I haven't heard it. I'm usually not in

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Speaker 1: the car anymore. But over the I would say. When

545
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: I lived in the Bay Area, I'd often be in

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Speaker 1: the car doing like local TV stuff driving home. He

547
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: would call games for Westwood One. It was radio. But

548
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: he's he was working then with Boomer Siasin or Kurt Warner.

549
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Speaker 1: But he's excellent. So yeah, I mean, I wouldn't shock

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Speaker 1: me at all. He's It's going to be difficult because

551
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, will these guys that already have a full

552
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: slate want to do it now? Money talk shit walks,

553
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: So if you're gonna pay him, I don't know whatever.

554
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: These guys make the equivalent of fifty grand a game.

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00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: If you're willing to quadruple that for one game, is

556
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: it worth it to be away from your family? I

557
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: like I said, I think that's why Tom Brady turned

558
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: it down. Now play by play guys. They're just that

559
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: they would never give up games, so if they ever

560
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: get offered him, they usually take him. I would imagine

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00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: he would take the game if offered. A huge fan

562
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: of the pod, been listening for the last two years.

563
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: I feel like after a couple miss deep shots very

564
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: early in the game, they just completely took the ball

565
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Speaker 1: out of Fields's hands. There was definitely an effort to

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Speaker 1: get him going by running him, but I feel like

567
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: the play calls were extremely safe and mostly as the

568
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Speaker 1: game went on. I know Dallas has a bad run defense,

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Speaker 1: but it became extremely predictable. Do you think this is

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Speaker 1: a sign that they're going to go back to Russell,

571
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Speaker 1: even though Justin has played pretty well. I think if

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00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: you go to Russell Wilson, you're insane, you really are. Now.

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Speaker 1: I get Tomlin older coach in the sense of been

574
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Speaker 1: on the team for a while. Maybe he's inclined to

575
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Speaker 1: like look at Russell Wilson and hope that he could

576
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Speaker 1: strike a little bit of that magic where Fields. I mean,

577
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: the best he's ever played is literally here, and it's

578
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: not that great. It's not like they're scoring that many points.

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Speaker 1: I don't pretend to believe that one hundred percent Fields

580
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Speaker 1: is just never going to relinquish that spot because old

581
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Speaker 1: school coaches get kind of weird sometimes with younger players

582
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Speaker 1: when they got a veteran player that what's the worst

583
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Speaker 1: case scenario? They start Russell a game, what's just you

584
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: can never go back to? Sure you can justin You're

585
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: back in the game two weeks later, the way it works,

586
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Speaker 1: So I think everything is on the table. I would

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Speaker 1: just keep writing justin fields out. But I do get

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Speaker 1: from Tomlin's perspective or not scoring points, like what the

589
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: hell is going on? Though? I don't think they would

590
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: really score that many more points if Russell Wilson's in

591
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Speaker 1: the game. It's not really I think look at the

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Speaker 1: way he's played the last couple of years. Congrats on

593
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Speaker 1: the engagement. My question is this, as a lifelong Browns fan,

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Speaker 1: I was hopeful about our team being able to overcome

595
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Speaker 1: the woes of Deshaun Watson, but so far it hasn't

596
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: played out. Do you think it's a bad idea for

597
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: the Browns to just stick with them all year and

598
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: get a higher draft pick than to change at quarterback

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Speaker 1: with Deshaun's cap situation. A rookie quarterback contract could help

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00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: offset his cap space and also give us the ability

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Speaker 1: to move on from from this disastrous player on our team.

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Speaker 1: I think the best case scenario, if you're a Browns

603
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: fan right now, would just be to have Deshaun Watson

604
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: play every game and lose every game and end up

605
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: with a top two or three pick and just hopefully

606
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: you're able to reset the franchise. But I do believe

607
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Speaker 1: this Shador Sanders would refuse to play for you given

608
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Speaker 1: this situation. I think if cam Ward has an I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I was representing cam we would refuse to play

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Speaker 1: for the Browns. If I was quinn yours representation, that

611
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 1: is a hard no. So I do think this situation

612
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: the problem is it makes everything weird, it really does.

613
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: It just creates chaos, And if I'm a Browns fan,

614
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm really really mad at my owner because it's one

615
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: thing I get why the GM and the head coach

616
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: were interested into Sean Watson. He was not coming there

617
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Speaker 1: until Mulgeta took advantage of him and charged him two

618
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: hundred thirty million dollars. And that's why he's on the team.

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Speaker 1: And he's objectively one of the worst players we've ever

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Speaker 1: seen over the course early on in this season, in

621
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Speaker 1: moments last year. It's that bad. It really is. Can't

622
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: throw from into the pocket, no speed to scramble, arm

623
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: looks crappy, body language all time awful. When you see

624
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: his eyes, when they go to his face, you know

625
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: sometimes like in a movie, if you're watching, like a

626
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: dark movie, they're like, I looked in his eyes. He

627
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: just looked dead. He was just he was gone. You know,

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00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: it's like one of those moments where he's just it's

629
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Speaker 1: just over. Like you just look in those eyes, it

630
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: just looks just looks dead. And if you think about it,

631
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day. This contract

632
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: obviously was a lot of money to Deshaun Watson, but

633
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: he was already really rich. He was a top fifteen pick,

634
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: which meant he got some money, not like game changing money,

635
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: but millions of dollars. And then he signed a contract

636
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: extension with the Texans I think one hundred plus million

637
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: dollar contract extension, so he was super rich. So it's

638
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: this money. Obviously he has added more money to his

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Speaker 1: bank account. But if he wanted to eat at the

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Speaker 1: nice steakhouse, if he wanted to buy two g wagons.

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Speaker 1: If he wanted to buy a second home, he already

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Speaker 1: had the cash to do that. I can't imagine. I

643
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: don't know if there's karma for the situations with the

644
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Speaker 1: massuses that there can't be a worst situation to be

645
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: a human being. Like if you're Deshaun Watts, like life

646
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: has to suck. Everyone's looking at you weird. Everyone thinks

647
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 1: you so because you do. No chance your teammates really

648
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Speaker 1: like you. Because even if I first met to Sean

649
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: as a teammate a couple of years ago, it's like

650
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: a nice guy got along with him, even if that

651
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: was my interaction after a while, we're all human beings,

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Speaker 1: So put it into normal humans. Let's just say you're

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Speaker 1: working a job. You're thirty years old, you've been at

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Speaker 1: the company for a little while. You're doing well. You're

655
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Speaker 1: making a hundred grand with bonuses, and you hit some

656
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: you know, make a couple of sales here and there.

657
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: You get up to like one to fifty. You're financially well.

658
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: You live in a place where that that goes a

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Speaker 1: long way. Then you got a dude who is in

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Speaker 1: a more important position, who makes let's just pick for

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00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: arguments sake five million dollars. You're like, listen, I met

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Speaker 1: the guy who's nice, but this guy makes so much

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Speaker 1: more money than me. And then after a while you go,

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Speaker 1: I think I'm more valuable than this guy. I'm not

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Speaker 1: even saying you have to be a quarterback to you

666
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: could be a guard, you could be a dB, you

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00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: can be a tight end. You start thinking they're paying

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00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: this guy sticks million dollars to suck this bad and

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Speaker 1: he makes like the uniform I aware look awful because

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Speaker 1: of everything he created. Like, after a while, you're gonna

671
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: start resenting it. We're just we're all human beings. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of it in the private sector comes back

673
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Speaker 1: to cash, and we kind of compare ourselves to other people,

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Speaker 1: especially those we work with. What you're paying him how much?

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00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: And I'm way better, I'm more valuable, and he's bad

676
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: at his job and no one likes him. To me,

677
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: it starts to snowball, and that's how could you be

678
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Speaker 1: a player on the Browns if you're just a solid player.

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00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: And I'm just gonna pick a number. Let's just say

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Speaker 1: you making four million dollars, which obviously to society is

681
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Speaker 1: a boat low of money. Your top one percent of

682
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: one percenter, but relative to the locker room, you don't.

683
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Speaker 1: You're not even close to the highest paid, right. They

684
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Speaker 1: got a lot of high paid guys on that team,

685
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: but the highest paid guy on that team makes the

686
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Speaker 1: The gap between you and him is really really wide.

687
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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, like, I'm gonna be a good

688
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Speaker 1: teammate because that's what I'm taught in football, like be

689
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Speaker 1: a good guy. Don't make it about yourself, it's about

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00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: we dot I. And after a while though, you're just like, no,

691
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Speaker 1: this is this, ain't this Ain't it so to me?

692
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Speaker 1: They're gonna have a mutiny inside that, like we can't

693
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Speaker 1: keep doing this. Also, the livelihood of most of these

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Speaker 1: players not named like Miles Garrett, You're kind of always

695
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: fighting for your job every single year. In the NFL,

696
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Speaker 1: there aren't Scholarships don't really exist for the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 1: of players. It's good ones too, uh. Fellow cal Pauly

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Speaker 1: alum Go Mustangs. Question for the bag, how do you

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Speaker 1: evaluate a talent like cam Ward. I'm not a huge

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00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: into college football, but I watched the Cow Miami game

701
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: and couldn't help but think that his backyard football style

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Speaker 1: as of now might not translate as a scout, how

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Speaker 1: do you evaluate the hero ball? Well, Cayleb Williams was

704
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: the number one hero ball maybe guy of all time,

705
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: and as of last week, you know he's made huge strives,

706
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: the best game as a pro. So, when you're in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, unless you know it's Nick Sabin or Sark

708
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: or Lane Kiffen or some of these guys, the coach

709
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Speaker 1: is kind of irrelevant and usually you go, yeah, he's

710
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Speaker 1: not that good. We wouldn't hire him. We got Andy Reid,

711
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Speaker 1: we got Sean mcvah, Kyle Shanian, We'll get the guy right.

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Speaker 1: And that's how you kind of look at it as

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Speaker 1: a scout, and you go, was he accurate? Does he

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Speaker 1: have good arm strength? Do you feel comfortable with him

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Speaker 1: making all the throws? How is he the line of scrimmage?

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Speaker 1: What's his control? Is he making the checks? Is? Does

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Speaker 1: he understand? Is he comfortable running your offense against zone

718
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: and man against the difference coverages? What's he like against

719
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: the blitz? We are factoring all these things in and

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Speaker 1: more than likely, depending on the program, you're gonna go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the coach is probably average. You know, we're decent or

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Speaker 1: maybe below, but you go, my guy's good, and if

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Speaker 1: my guy's comfortable with his attributes, we can get the

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00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: hero ball thing away. And obviously it can be a

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Speaker 1: detriment to cam Ward, but it can also be a positive.

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Speaker 1: Like I've said this about Anthony Richardson, I said this

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00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: about Josh Allen, I said this about Trey Lance. I

728
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Speaker 1: have no problem ever with Now the problem with Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance he doesn't have the physical skills even not even

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Speaker 1: remotely close to Anthony Richardson and Josh Allen. Like his

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Speaker 1: downfall isn't just he's not good, it's like his physical

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Speaker 1: attributes or average. Obviously cam Wards are not. Shador has

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Speaker 1: some Uh. I can speak to Shador. I've watched him

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Speaker 1: much more closely than cam. I don't know. I'd have

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Speaker 1: to look who Cam's offensive coordinator is. But for example Shador,

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, he's always playing hero ball. Yeah, his

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator is Pat Schrmer, who I wouldn't hire to

738
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Speaker 1: be my tight end coach in the NFL. Who calls

739
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: four and five wide. Now, maybe Dion's from making him

740
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Speaker 1: do it, but when his offensive line camp block, he's

741
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: running for his life. Yet I watched the door in

742
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: big spots. Pretty calm and collected and can make big spots.

743
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: Same thing with Camp, even if sometimes they're partly responsible

744
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: for putting themselves there. So to me, these two quarterbacks

745
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: like like George's guy, Carson back. If you just watch him,

746
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: he plays much more naturally in the construct of the

747
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Speaker 1: offense three five step drop, hitch release. But I watch him,

748
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Speaker 1: I guess, go, I don't think he's that good. Like, well,

749
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Speaker 1: he lost his tight end, he lost his wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: He he can give me all the excuses you want. I'm

751
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Speaker 1: just watching him the eye tests and go. Yeah, I'm

752
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Speaker 1: not saying he's a scrub. I'm not saying he won't

753
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Speaker 1: get drafted, But you couldn't pay me to draft that

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00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: guy in the top two rounds. Well, I see the

755
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: other guys. Yeah, they might fail, Cam and Shador. You

756
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: never know. It's the NFL's a draft. We see crazy

757
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: things happen all the time. But I'm taking a chance

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00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: with that talent. So assuming and from everything I've heard,

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Speaker 1: cam Ward great guy, people love him, been a huge time,

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00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: big time leader on Miami. So to me, cam Ward

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Speaker 1: has a very very good chance even with the quote

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Speaker 1: unquote hero ball to be the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean shit, Look, Bryce Young, who's a five to

764
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Speaker 1: nine hundred and seventy eight pound guy, went number one overall.

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00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray had some hero ball to him. It's like,

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Speaker 1: that's talent is a big discrepancy. If you get the

767
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: right talent with the coach Patrick Mahomes Monday Night Football,

768
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: you're like a couple three sixties. He's like an Allen

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Speaker 1: Iverson juke move. Now it works, so it looks cool,

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00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: but sometimes it doesn't. Like that's what I want. I mean,

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00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: I want a little bit of a playmaker. There just

772
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: aren't that many. Like Peyton Manning like runs it perfectly, one,

773
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Speaker 1: two out, three, four out. If it goes to his

774
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 1: own the man, we move down. It's like, yeah, that's

775
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: all that stuff sounds great in theory, but like, eventually,

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Speaker 1: what happens when the guard gets smoked by Chris Jones

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr screwed? Well, if that's Kyler Murray, like, yeah,

778
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: might be screwed. Also, the play might be alive. I'm

779
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: curious to know your thoughts on Niko Lola Malay Oliva.

780
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: I think I screwed that up. But the Tennessee quarterback.

781
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: It is abundantly clear that Hypel and the coaching staff

782
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: don't trust him at all. They run the ball on

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00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: third and long with regularity and generally seem to try

784
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Speaker 1: to keep the ball out of his hands as much

785
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: as they can. He also, at least to my untrained eye,

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Speaker 1: struggles with accuracy on most throws, regardless if he's in

787
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Speaker 1: the pocket or not. I understand he only in a

788
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Speaker 1: six start, but sometimes the coaching staff and their decision

789
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Speaker 1: making can be telling well as a young As a

790
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: young player, you have to give the coaching staff a

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00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: reason to trust you, right So until you earn my trust,

792
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: these offensive coaches are not gonna put it on your back.

793
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: So let's use examples of guys recently drafted high CJ. Stroud,

794
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels. Last year with Brian Kelly, I'm

795
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Speaker 1: just listening Bo Nicks and Michael Pennix, with their respected staffs,

796
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: they were so good, so fast. Well, obviously a couple

797
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: of them different paths, but I just meant like with

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00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: their offense, Bo Nicks was good right away for Oregon.

799
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Speaker 1: Michael Penix was good right away for Washington. Jayden Daniels

800
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: had a year playing for Brian Kelly. Obviously, Caleb had

801
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: been with Lincoln the whole time. Those guys trusted him fast,

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00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: and they responded and they made big time plays through

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00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: some touchdowns. Nico who I kind of put all my

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00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: chips on the table of and I got to be

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Speaker 1: very careful about doing this because I did the same

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Speaker 1: thing with Jackson Norld. It's one thing to do with

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Speaker 1: an NFL player. I'd never watch these guys play besides

808
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: some YouTube highlights of their high school so who knows,

809
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: and playing college quarterback going from modern day or wherever

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Speaker 1: you come from high school in Texas, the gap is

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Speaker 1: way wider than playing at Oregon or USC or Texas

812
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: than going to the NFL, which is obviously a wide gap,

813
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: but at least in those games you're playing in front

814
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Speaker 1: of seventy eighty ninety thousand people against in your biggest

815
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: games a ton of other NFL players. In high school,

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00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: for the most part, you're not playing against that many

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Speaker 1: Power five Division IE players on a given game, maybe,

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00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: but the totality of your high school career that you're

819
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: playing a lot of John Middlecoffs. There's nothing wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: I almost said tried hard, but I wouldn't consider myself

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Speaker 1: a try hard guy. Bad shape and small. I think

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Speaker 1: they had high hopes and early on it was like

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Speaker 1: with Damn and then obviously against Oklahoma, who is excellent

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Speaker 1: a defense. The Arkansas game full disclosure, I was boozing

825
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: hard and I was at the DraftKings sports book and

826
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: watching a ton of games and wasn't super locked in

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Speaker 1: on that one. I think by the time we got home,

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Speaker 1: we watched the end of it, and I remember he

829
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: ran out of bounce to end the game. So you

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Speaker 1: could argue it's not only I don't trust him with

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Speaker 1: the accuracy. If I'm the coaching staff, do I trust

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00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: his football IQ right now? Because that's a play that

833
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: just cannot happen. It's unacceptable. You can't run out of bounds.

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Speaker 1: It's like guys that you know do that on fourth down,

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Speaker 1: or don't throw it to the sticks. It's like guys,

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Speaker 1: there are certain contexts of the sport of football that

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Speaker 1: it's just if this happens, it's you can't catch the

838
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: ball out of bounce. So if you throw the ball

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Speaker 1: out of bounds, it's impossible to get caught. If it

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00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: is no time left, and you're scrambling around and you

841
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: are down. If you go out of bounds, the game ends.

842
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: And from a coaching scouting perspective, it doesn't get any

843
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 1: dumber than that. And there's you could say, Hey, you've

844
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: got to coach these situations. You gotta be put in

845
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: these situations. You're a young player. A lot going on

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00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: on the road Arkansas is actually sneaky, not bad. There

847
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: are a lot of different variables, but eventually, like I

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Speaker 1: have to rely. One thing I think you've noticed this

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Speaker 1: whole time with Andy and Mahomes is Andy was very

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Speaker 1: very confident and comfortable early on with Mahomes just as

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Speaker 1: an instinctive player, Like you know what, I trust your instincts.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean you're not gonna fail sometimes or get it wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I trust your instincts. And I think the best

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Speaker 1: players are all very very instinctive players. That you're not

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Speaker 1: born knowing this stuff. But I definitely think it gets

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Speaker 1: developed early on in your athletic career, whether it's in

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Speaker 1: like pee wee football, high school football, just playing with

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Speaker 1: your front you just develop these instincts, maybe even a

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Speaker 1: little in college, but like for the most part, once

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Speaker 1: you give the NFL like you got instincts or you don't,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes early on in college you can still develop

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Speaker 1: them because, like you said, it's only a six start,

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Speaker 1: but that is an area that must be developed as

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Speaker 1: this kid's going to be a star, because Oklahoma did

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Speaker 1: the thing with Jackson Norlan were like, yeah, he's just

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Speaker 1: not he doesn't know this is not gonna work, and

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Speaker 1: we don't have time for him just to like hopefully

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Speaker 1: develop instincts on the fly, because right now his instincts

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Speaker 1: are destroying us. And when you get an instinctive player

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Speaker 1: that knows what they're doing, and you could argue that

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Speaker 1: Bo Nicks and Michael Pennix had got to develop those

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Speaker 1: at Indiana and at Auburn, so by the time, and

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Speaker 1: maybe that's fair. It's why actually the transfer portal has

874
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Speaker 1: served a lot of guys well because they've got to

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Speaker 1: fail and then they get to their new place and

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Speaker 1: they're ready to succeed. But Tennessee, at one point in time,

877
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Speaker 1: it's like, God, is their defensive line good enough, they're

878
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Speaker 1: offensive pieces, we know their coach is pretty good, and

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Speaker 1: then this guy feels a little overwhelmed, which like Jackson

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Speaker 1: Arnold and him you go, Wow, he's an eighteen nineteen

881
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Speaker 1: year old guy with like championship expect It's pretty difficult

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Speaker 1: in the sec where it's just insane. It's like the

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Speaker 1: New York Jets level fervor. So I wouldn't write the

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Speaker 1: guy off, but I think it shows how difficult this is.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking I had a few. But I remember

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Speaker 1: sitting on my couch because we had gotten back from

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Speaker 1: the sports book and watching him run out of bounce.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what what? Oh is that? Why don't the

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Speaker 1: Jets wind on this? Hire Belichick? I think they would

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Speaker 1: love to. I think Woody Johnson would hire him yesterday,

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Speaker 1: he'd hire him tomorrow, and he'd hire him at the

892
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Speaker 1: end of the season. I think there are certain things

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Speaker 1: that are non negotiables, and we all have them in life.

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Speaker 1: I think the older you get, you have less and

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Speaker 1: less of them. You realize, as you've just experienced different things,

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Speaker 1: you kind of never say never. You never know how

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Speaker 1: things are gonna end up personally in relationships with business.

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Speaker 1: That's why you know. You learn early on you're taught

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Speaker 1: this and it really as you age you realize the

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Speaker 1: power of it, Like don't burn bridges, be careful, treat

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Speaker 1: people well personally and professionally. Belichick hates these fucking guys.

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Speaker 1: And one thing as I've gotten older, like if you

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Speaker 1: ask me, like who do you hate? Honestly, I try

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Speaker 1: not to hate anybody unless you wronged my family, my dog,

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Speaker 1: or my future wife or my unborn children. Like, I

906
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Speaker 1: don't have the energy to hate you if you screwed

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Speaker 1: me financially and the number was big enough that that

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Speaker 1: could go there. I have been screwed financially before, but

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Speaker 1: looking back, the number or didn't derail my life. Matt.

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Speaker 1: Originally I don't care, but I could get to a

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Speaker 1: point where obviously the hate would come out and I

912
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Speaker 1: would hate you forever probably, but it would take a lot.

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Speaker 1: And I'd say most people I associate with I would

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Speaker 1: fall somewhat under that umbrella, Like it takes a lot.

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Speaker 1: Belichick is not one of those humans. And however, that

916
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Speaker 1: situation played out when he quit on them with parcels

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Speaker 1: and got traded to the Obviously they played each other

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Speaker 1: for however two and a half decades. I just can't

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Speaker 1: see him doing it now. Listen, we all have a

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Speaker 1: product or what's going on? Well, what if he has

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Speaker 1: no other job offers. What if the Jets are his

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Speaker 1: only job offer, then I think we would learn does

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Speaker 1: he want to break this record, does he want to

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Speaker 1: still coach, or does he kind of indifferent. I saw

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Speaker 1: a picture going viral of him with his new girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: He wearing the Taylor Swift sweatshirt. Maybe doesn't care because

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Speaker 1: it's not out of the reund possibility that's his only offer.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine he has more, but who knows. Seventy two,

929
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Speaker 1: seventy three years old. I think Jets would hire him

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Speaker 1: in a heartbeat, definitely at the end of the season,

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Speaker 1: if he'd be willing to do it, because that would

932
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Speaker 1: be a huge win for Woody Johnson. He'd get a

933
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Speaker 1: ton of credit, get to play the Patriots, get Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick to break that record as a New York Jet

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Speaker 1: in theory, but I don't think it's gonna happen, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's because of Bill. If Bill has options,

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Speaker 1: one would not take it. If Bill didn't have options,

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Speaker 1: I still think he would think long and hard about like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe my career is just over and I'll just do

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Speaker 1: this YouTube and McAfee and Peyton manning shit for the

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Speaker 1: next four or five years. And just kind of kick

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Speaker 1: it and just enjoy life. I got six rings as

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Speaker 1: a head coach, two more as an assistant. Like what

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Speaker 1: else can I accomplish? He could break the record, But

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Speaker 1: do I want break the record one day when I'm dead,

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Speaker 1: have the picture of me in a Jets hoodie. I

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Speaker 1: don't think he would. I don't. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: a this is an Northeast. There's a guy that holds grudges.

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Speaker 1: There's a guy that holds grudges, so I would. I

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly. We've never really got to the bottom.

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Speaker 1: I've never read a great explanation. Obviously, there are a

952
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Speaker 1: lot of variables here, but like a specific instance, I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure Woody johnson' n even on the team at

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Speaker 1: the time, But I would bet against Bill Belichick ever

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Speaker 1: being the New York Jets head coach. The volume