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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Marco Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: My guest today is Corey Walker. Corey is a reporter

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Speaker 1: from the Algemner. Hi, Corey, so nice to have you on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: So how did you get into this, How did you

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Speaker 1: become a reporter and what led you to the Algemner.

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Speaker 2: I've been writing for a few years now, and I

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Speaker 2: originally prior to Algemner, I was at a Daily Caller,

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Speaker 2: which is conservative news outlet, and then now around the

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Speaker 2: playoffs and I was impacted by that and so I

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Speaker 2: lost my job there and basically I spent about four

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Speaker 2: months just like freelancing, and then an Algamner job came

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Speaker 2: open and I just applied and ended up getting it.

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Speaker 2: They gave me the offer for the job, and SOBS

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Speaker 2: accepted it. And here I am. I think that I

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Speaker 2: just had a lot of I think experience with you know,

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Speaker 2: the issue at hand. Al Jaminer focuses on particularly Jewish

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Speaker 2: issues and also Mil Eastern politics, and I had some

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Speaker 2: personal experience with that, so it kind of overlapped with

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Speaker 2: what I already knew, and yeah, it just ended up

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Speaker 2: being a really good fit for me.

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Speaker 1: What was your personal experience.

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Speaker 2: I think it's just because I went to University of

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Speaker 2: Michigan and that had a large Jewish population. I worked

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Speaker 2: at the helll the University LL for about three years

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Speaker 2: while I was there, and then I took some classes

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Speaker 2: in Israel Palestine, and there also was you know, lots

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Speaker 2: of protests and this is like around twenty seventeen, so

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Speaker 2: nine years ago at this point, but like there were

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Speaker 2: lots of protests even back then over it, and the

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Speaker 2: same kind of rhetoric that they're using today to describe

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Speaker 2: Israel as the same rhetoric they're using then, like oh

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Speaker 2: their gen inside and all these things, and.

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Speaker 1: I had none of it, right, it didn't start in

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Speaker 1: Ocober age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like it's not news, it's you know, these are

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Speaker 2: reheated narratives. But I was having conversations with the rabbi

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Speaker 2: and the you know, the people who run Howell about

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Speaker 2: this these sorts of things, and so I learned a

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Speaker 2: lot about Israel there and then also like taking the

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Speaker 2: on campus courses, I was able to learn a lot

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Speaker 2: about you know, Israel Palestine, and yeah, so you kind

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Speaker 2: of develop an interest in it. So yeah, that's kind

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Speaker 2: of my experience with it you could.

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Speaker 1: Have picked an easier road. Choosing to be you know,

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Speaker 1: pro Israel or a defender of Israel isn't really the

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Speaker 1: easier path.

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Speaker 2: I have a hard time with. I feel like gas

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Speaker 2: slighting efforts and lying and things like that. And I

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Speaker 2: think that a lot of the pro Palestine stuff is dishonest.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's not to say that there are legitimate

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Speaker 2: grievances that Palestinians, if you're living in the West Bank,

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Speaker 2: may have. I do think there are legitimate grievances, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of this is just like a complete and

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Speaker 2: total rejection of like verifiable historical facts, and for me,

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Speaker 2: I have an issue with that, right And I also

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Speaker 2: have an issue with the broader movement because I you know,

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Speaker 2: I like the United States, I like Western civilization, and

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Speaker 2: I think that a large part of this is also

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Speaker 2: an effort to delegitimize Western countries in general, right, Like

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Speaker 2: the same things that they helped to do to Israel,

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Speaker 2: they want to do basically, you know, can Australia. It's

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Speaker 2: you know, when you go to these rallies, the pro

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Speaker 2: palaeside rallies, they say like, oh, we need to diligent,

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Speaker 2: we need to decolonize Israel, but we also have to

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Speaker 2: declonize Australia, we have to decolonize Canada, and so a

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Speaker 2: lot of this, to me, I think is an effort

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Speaker 2: to undermine the underpinnings of the countries that we live in.

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Speaker 2: And so I, like I said, it's they're doing it

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Speaker 2: very sneakily rout yeah, like a social justice rhetoric. But

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Speaker 2: you know, like I said, large part of this is

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Speaker 2: using social justice and empathy to delegitimize and weaken American

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Speaker 2: allies and also America by extension, right, because you know,

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Speaker 2: Israel does provide things like intelligence, they also are a

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Speaker 2: fighting ally. They also do things over there like weak

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Speaker 2: in Iran in the countries that you know, do want

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Speaker 2: that the high pressure effort to disentangle that relationship that

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Speaker 2: we have, I think that that should cause everyone not

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Speaker 2: saying that could be pro Israel. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 2: that it should cause everyone to have a little bit

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Speaker 2: there's propaganda effort coming from all sides to try to

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Speaker 2: And so for me, part of this is also like

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Speaker 2: part of it for me is I also you know,

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Speaker 2: think that just you know, Israel does get things to

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Speaker 2: the world, right, like most countries are. Most most states fail, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people understand that state building is an

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Speaker 2: extremely difficult process and the vast majority of times we've

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Speaker 2: World War two states that has actually succeeded built a

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Speaker 2: first world economy. They actually you know, have advancements in

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Speaker 2: sciences and technologies and essines that we use the United States.

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Speaker 2: They are a country that I think they're the only

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Speaker 2: first world country that has above replacement fertility rates, so

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Speaker 2: they're actually reproducing themselves. Yeah, And so I think that

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Speaker 2: there's a lot there that you know, we can look from,

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Speaker 2: and I think that you know that those are things

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Speaker 2: that should be cherished and preserved. Now, it does not

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Speaker 2: to say that you have the sport, there's really government,

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Speaker 2: or there's really policy or everything, or there should be

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Speaker 2: no criticisms I'm not saying that at all. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that the effort to try.

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Speaker 1: To delegitimize them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, I think it should give everyone pause,

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Speaker 2: you know, because like I said, it's it's the same

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Speaker 2: thing that they want. They want to do that everywhere, right,

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Speaker 2: and so it's you know, everyone should be skeptical.

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Speaker 1: Did you always want to be a writer?

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Speaker 2: I think kind of. I think part of it was

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Speaker 2: like I just wasn't good at maths. I didn't think

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Speaker 2: out a choice. And it's kind of like a lot

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Speaker 1: And we just can't add and we're like this is

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Speaker 1: this is the only other other thing for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you go to algebra and then I was like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I can't do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my dreams of being a doctor or scientists are done.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I went to college thinking I was going to

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Speaker 2: Well that's a lot of people. Yeah, they they we

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Speaker 2: That's just where they lie. There wouldn't word the spoken word,

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Speaker 2: something that I've realized not everyone can do. I think

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Speaker 2: it's kind of the gifts and you know, so I

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Speaker 2: that I have a lot of opinions about a lot

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Speaker 2: if you have your opinunated person, writing is probably a

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Speaker 1: Well, might you have done instead? What would a plan

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Speaker 2: That's tough. I would say that if I could do

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Speaker 2: there's other people who kind of like maybe it's just

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Speaker 2: you know, writing is not the most lucrative industry unless

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Speaker 2: sometimes I think like, well, could I have done something else,

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Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think that's that's a stretch for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's also like I know that it's the

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Speaker 1: But otherwise, you know, you don't really listen to yourself. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Sam Tucker, Carls and these are gifted people. I wish

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Speaker 1: Carol Markowitz Show. Well, I've loved this conversation, Corey. Like

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Speaker 2: not really new battles that we're fighting in our society.

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Speaker 2: And I think that we struggle to learn from our

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Speaker 2: forget like we have amnesia because we don't you know,

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Speaker 2: we visit, Yeah, you know, the past issues of our.

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Speaker 1: Society, right, Like we've done this already. Let's let's learn

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Speaker 2: So I think reading I think also, and I'm probably

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Speaker 2: not real, not reflective of society, but also just incentivize

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Speaker 2: the worst possible behavior. And I think that that's something.

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Speaker 2: And I also think one thing I'm kind of thinking

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Speaker 2: landscape is built around like really hijacking people getting addictedd

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Speaker 2: You're singing this a lot of young men. So, like,

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Speaker 2: one thing I'm been thinking about a lot NonStop is

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Speaker 2: actually gambling. So like gambling is becoming really is super

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Speaker 2: super accessible, but it's also addictive. And so you're starting

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Speaker 2: to see especially if young men for some reason, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if women have this issue, but as young men.

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Speaker 1: Right, it's the sports sports, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I read something that like forty seven percent I

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Speaker 2: believe of men that were like fourteen years old have

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Speaker 2: gambled in the past year, right, and it goes up

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Speaker 2: to like sixty over sixty percent when we talk about

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Speaker 2: college age eighteen nineteen. And so we're building an entire

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Speaker 2: generation of young men that are addicted to gambling, which

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Speaker 2: is bad because you know, as anyone who's dealt with

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Speaker 2: any sort of gambling addict knows.

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Speaker 1: It's very hard to break.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can end up losing your house, like you know,

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Speaker 2: So this stuff is really really bad, and it's addictive

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Speaker 2: and exploitative and there's no guard wells. Like we decided

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Speaker 2: to legalize it. We had no national debate on this

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Speaker 2: at all, right, Like you know, we have more impassion

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Speaker 2: you know, just put that out there. There's no discussion.

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Speaker 2: We just did it. And so there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: things I think we need to be thinking about as

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Speaker 2: a society.

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Speaker 1: But I love that read more beyond the Internet lasts.

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good recipe for my list listeners.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming on. He is Corey Walker.

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Speaker 1: Read him in the alge Miner. He is fantastic on

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Speaker 1: X check him out. Thanks so much, Corey