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Speaker 1: We got a good one for you this week. NFL

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Speaker 1: Tom to Let's go, isn't shy about saying, hey, we

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Speaker 1: want Philip to play as long as possible, especially at

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Speaker 1: this level, but at some point you have to get

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Speaker 1: a young arm in there for the future for you know,

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Speaker 1: two three years down the road. No question. Look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: let's look at the Patriots. Now. Do I think the

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Speaker 1: Patriots are going to be picking in the top five. No, right,

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Speaker 1: but the Patriots. I mean, look, Tom Brady is a phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: There's no way. He's ridiculous. At so a point he's

436
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Speaker 1: going to decline, right some point would you would think

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Speaker 1: at some point he will be forty one years old

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Speaker 1: when the next season starts. At some point in the

439
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Speaker 1: next few years, he will decline. So when do they start? Right?

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Speaker 1: They had Garoppolo and you thought, this is going to

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Speaker 1: be the smoothest transition ever, Right, this is going to

442
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Speaker 1: be Joe Montana to Steve Young, the greatest thing you've

443
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Speaker 1: ever seen, and then of course the trick Garoppolo. So

444
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Speaker 1: when did they get another quarterback? You know? And how

445
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Speaker 1: high did they take one? There's lots of teams, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Giants. I live in New York and so the

447
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Speaker 1: Giants are so prominent. Eli has not played at his

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Speaker 1: top level in the last few years. Now. To be fair,

449
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Speaker 1: the offensive line has not been good if they haven't

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Speaker 1: had much of a running game. Last year, every receiver

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Speaker 1: within fifty miles of the Giants got first, so there

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Speaker 1: was a lot going against them. But he hasn't looked

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Speaker 1: good either, So that is the big question for the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Is it time to get your next franchise quarterback in?

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Speaker 1: Here is David's web that guy, but they never got

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Speaker 1: to see him on the field. You know, is there

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Speaker 1: a more pressing need for the Giants? Like? These are

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Speaker 1: the things that so many of these teams are grappling

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Speaker 1: with because you know, when you even though there's four

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Speaker 1: very highly rated quarterbacks right in this class, are all

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Speaker 1: four not going to be successful? It never happens, never happens,

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Speaker 1: you never have it. It was an extraordinary year when

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Speaker 1: Eli and Roethlisberger and sew Up all hit. Right, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen. So let's say two out of the four

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Speaker 1: are stars. Well, I mean the other two teams that

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Speaker 1: take these guys are going to be looking for a

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Speaker 1: quarterback again in a few years. Right. It's it's tough.

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Speaker 1: It's it's really tough. And I am again I am

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Speaker 1: fascinated to see on draft night what happens because I

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Speaker 1: think there will be trades and think you'll see teams

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Speaker 1: try to move maybe before the draft, you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: Buffalo tries to get up before the draft. But there's

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Speaker 1: so many question marks. Do the Giants think it's time

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Speaker 1: to get Eli's replacement in there. What do they think

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Speaker 1: about David's Webb. We don't know the answers to any

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Speaker 1: of that. You know, do they love can somebody love

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Speaker 1: se Quon Barkley so much that they take him instead

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Speaker 1: of a quarterback? Right? There's so much intrigue, and you

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Speaker 1: know what, we didn't even talk about. Guess what, there's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a it's gonna be a third round quarterback

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Speaker 1: that we're not talking about right now that's going to

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Speaker 1: be better than two or three of these guys that

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Speaker 1: get selected in the first round. You know, it could

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Speaker 1: be this Kyle l Letter from Richmond. It could be

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph in the second round. It could be somebody

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Speaker 1: else that we're not talking about right now. Well, none

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Speaker 1: of us were talking about Jimmy Garoppolo a few years

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Speaker 1: exactly right, nobody was talking about I mean right, you

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Speaker 1: didn't know him, and now you know he's maybe the

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Speaker 1: next grade one. Yeah, gentleman by the name of Kirk

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Speaker 1: Cousins just got eighty six million guaranteed coming from the

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Speaker 1: fourth round. He was the safety that draft draft pick

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Speaker 1: by the Redskins. Robert, Oh my gosh, Well, like, why

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Speaker 1: are they taking another quarterback? Okay, well, whatever, that's why

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Speaker 1: I love this. I love this time of year. But Judy,

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Speaker 1: last thing, you've been more than gracious with your time.

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Speaker 1: The NFL schedule release typically happens over the next few weeks.

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Speaker 1: Chargers have a trip to London this October. It's such

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Speaker 1: a fascinating process. And I know you've done pieces on

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Speaker 1: this before. Can you give fans just kind of a

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Speaker 1: brief overview just how detailed this process is, because it's

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Speaker 1: it's pretty insane. Oh, it's insane. First of all, they well,

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Speaker 1: I think it's been made slightly easier that now they

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Speaker 1: have a computer program that spits out thousands, hundreds of

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Speaker 1: thousands of scheduling options, and they can feed into that

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Speaker 1: program specific things like, you know, when the Chargers have

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Speaker 1: the game in London, would the Chargers prefer to play

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Speaker 1: on the East Coast the Sunday before so that they're

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Speaker 1: already on the East Coast and then they can flight

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Speaker 1: to London. All of those little kinds of things can

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Speaker 1: get fed in there. And you would not believe some

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Speaker 1: of the requests that teams make. Sometimes the owners are

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Speaker 1: not on the same page with the coaches and so

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Speaker 1: there's different request, but there's crazy requests like you know,

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Speaker 1: for instance, in Miami, it's obviously very hot in September

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Speaker 1: and October for a one o'clock game. Sometimes in the

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Speaker 1: past the Dolphins have asked, please don't schedule us for

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Speaker 1: a lot of one o'clock games as in September and October,

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Speaker 1: because it's hard to sell tickets because it's so hot. Except,

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Speaker 1: of course, the coaches love playing one o'clock games in

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Speaker 1: September and October in Miami because they feel they have

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Speaker 1: a conditioning advantage because they've been practicing unity all summer. Right.

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Speaker 1: There's all kinds of crazy requests like that again, things

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Speaker 1: like you know, if you have a game in London,

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Speaker 1: do you want to be on the East Coast? We

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Speaker 1: don't want to play a whole lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're the Seattle Seahawks, for instance, you ask please

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Speaker 1: don't schedule it's for a lot of one o'clock East

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Speaker 1: Coast starts, because that's ten o'clock body clock time in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: So they have to feed all of those requests. In

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Speaker 1: a lot of times, the teams don't get what they want.

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Speaker 1: You know. Teams will often say like we don't want

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Speaker 1: to play on Thanksgiving. You know, we don't want a

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Speaker 1: Thursday night game after a road game. Sometimes those requests

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Speaker 1: can't be met. A lot of times they can be.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of lobbying. And Howard Kats, who is

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Speaker 1: the overseer of the schedule and his team, will tell

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Speaker 1: you that after the schedule was released, first of all,

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Speaker 1: I have to go through the entire schedule with Roger

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Speaker 1: mcdell before it's released. So they go to a week

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Speaker 1: by week by week that after it is released, they

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00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: will get phone calls from owners screaming asthom you know,

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Speaker 1: saying how would you do this to me? If everybody's disappointed? Right,

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Speaker 1: everybody's man thinks like, here's here's an example. The two

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Speaker 1: New York teams don't like to play at home during

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Speaker 1: the Jewish holidays. Right, there's a large Jewish community here's

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Speaker 1: in ticket holders, so they can't go to those games.

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Speaker 1: So the two New York teams often will say, please

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Speaker 1: put us on the road on the weekends of the

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Speaker 1: Jewish holidays. Sometimes that can't be mat Hawar Katz tells

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Speaker 1: this funny story that when he wants scheduled, but I

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00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: think the giants, you know, on one of the Jewish holidays,

553
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: and his rabbi said, like what are you doing? Like

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Speaker 1: how would you screw this up? So they hear it

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Speaker 1: from a lot of people. Sometimes it's pretty angry, but

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Speaker 1: it is as an unbelievable process, and it goes on

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Speaker 1: for weeks and weeks and weeks and again, thousands and

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Speaker 1: thousands of schedules and they have to go through each

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Speaker 1: of them to try to minimize its bad schedules. That's

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Speaker 1: what they're trying to do. I don't think there's any

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Speaker 1: perfect schedule, but they're trying to minimize the number of

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Speaker 1: bad schedules. Everybody's going to have one or two or

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Speaker 1: maybe three or four things on the schedule that I

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Speaker 1: have got to be happy with for the most part.

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Speaker 1: You know, they do their best, and that's why they

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Speaker 1: have thousands of thousands of different permutations right right exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy and things like you know, they will get

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Speaker 1: phone calls from It's like there's always a team that

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Speaker 1: has like a three game road trip. That always happens.

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Speaker 1: They try to minimize them, you know, but nele say

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Speaker 1: teams don't like that when they have three straight games

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Speaker 1: on the road. What always fascinates me is the lobbying

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Speaker 1: that goes on, the crazy requests that they get, and

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Speaker 1: then the aftermasks schedule and they hear about it from

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Speaker 1: the teams anyway. Oh well, we're gonna find out probably

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Speaker 1: in a few weeks. I don't know when it's gonna

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Speaker 1: come out, but it should come out in April. Ju

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna be down at the draft in Dallas? No,

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Speaker 1: I will probably be with a team instead, probably one

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Speaker 1: of the teams share in New York and so both ticking.

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Speaker 1: So Hi, I'll be here. So that's home game for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there you go. We'd ever get you out to La Bodge. Huh,

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Speaker 1: I wish I need to get out there. Frankly. The

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Speaker 1: fact that the both teams are now so competitive is

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Speaker 1: a good thing, you know. And the fact that the

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Speaker 1: teams up in Northern California are so competitive and interesting

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Speaker 1: now too. That's a good thing for my travel schedule

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Speaker 1: because I would like more trips to California. Good. Well,

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Speaker 1: hopefully we'll see you out here, and you've been more

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Speaker 1: than gracious with your time. Can't thank you enough, and

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Speaker 1: hopefully we'll talk to you down the line here this offseason.

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Speaker 1: My pleasure. Thank you, Thanks for having me and that'll

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Speaker 1: do it by Thanks to Judy for joining me, and

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Speaker 1: thanks you all for listening. Be sure to subscribe to

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Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly on Apple Podcasts, and if you could, please

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Speaker 1: leave a review help spread the word. Actually had a

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Speaker 1: couple of reviews come in this past week. Really appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the weekend and until next time, I'm Chris Harry