1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Ron and Aien. I keep thinking of Stephen first and 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: animal House. You know, the old boy is this great thing? 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: And the old boy is this great that we get 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: to sit here and talk about cars, and very great 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. There's a couple of rules about electricity, 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: and one of them has to do with inducing water 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: into an electrical motor. The water level in the evaporator, 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: and every time he made a turn in the proper direction, 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: the water sloshed over and filled the blower motor. He 10 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian the 11 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,319 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 14 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 15 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: and now anticipate it's deeply religious ex security. He running, Hey, 17 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: it's time to start your engines along. Welcome Ron and 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: Ey and the car Doctor here at five five five 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. That's right, the Car 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: Doctor seven phone number called the applause, folks, we're trying 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,040 Speaker 1: to get a show going here eight five five five 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: zero zero zero, thank you, and as we kind of 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: roll along and help you fix your broken car whatever 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: it might be. Your your car question and maybe your 25 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: question about self driving cars. Good lord, we've gotten a 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: bunch of them. Um getting ready for the Mr Clark 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Howard interview in the next couple of weeks. We've been 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: talking about that. If you've got a question for Mr 29 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Clark Howard, you can send it along by all means 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: and we'll be glad to relay it to him. But 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: you've definitely got some very good points comments about no 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: steering wheels and in self driving cars and can a 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: self driving car or maybe i'll read some of these 34 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: later self driving cars. Someone wants to know, becauld a 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: self driving car? Tell the difference between a child running 36 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: towards the road while chasing a ball compared to a 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: dog running towards the road chasing a ball. Would it 38 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: would it see either one? Is there a height limitation 39 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: on its ability to see? You know, very good questions. 40 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: You know things we don't think about. And you know 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: there's there's so many daily, everyday scenarios of the what 42 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: ifs and the wood could have should is? You know, 43 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: it will be interesting We had a We'll talk about 44 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: that later. Let's let's kick the garage doors open. I 45 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: just had a great book, but I don't want to 46 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it right now. Let's go 47 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: and talk to Roger and Texas. Oh six nissanic Sterilet's 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: pull one right out of the gate because the phones 49 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: are backed up at zero rondin Indian. You're on the phone. 50 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: What's going on, Roger? How can I help? Well, I've 51 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: got this two thousand and six Nissan xter for World 52 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: drive UM four point o engine, and it constantly is 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: getting hot. And I have replaced everything that is what 54 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: are related? And I am so you know out there 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: with what's going going onto it? I don't understand. Well, 56 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: let's let's talk a little bit. So it overheats, it 57 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: overheats where by gauge or physical steam both? So I 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: can pull up. I can pull up to a traffic light. 59 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: Now I have a watch. My gauge is I have 60 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: a fluctuation on my oil um oil gage that goes 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: starts to go down. Now my engine when that happens, 62 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 1: my water temperature gage starts to go up. I won't 63 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: drive but maybe five minutes or so, and then the 64 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: it starts getting up, it will get hot enough to 65 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: kill my engine, and I've pull over and it will 66 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I gotta wait for it to 67 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: cool off and then show it out with water. My 68 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: water is going somewhere other than overflowing. So it's it's 69 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: it's it's physically losing and using water or coolant, as 70 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: you're saying, as far as I can see it, because 71 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: I've constantly have to put water in it. Okay, joke 72 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: it in. The man told me that I had on 73 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: the head gasket exhaust side. It's probably where the water 74 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: was going. I can't see any water. Right, Well, you're 75 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: not you're not going. You're not going to Roger, So 76 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: let me cut to the chase. They you're gonna tell 77 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: me they put head gaskets in it, right, yes? Today? 78 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: And then you're gonna tell me that you're gonna tell 79 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 1: I mean you did a radiator or water pump and 80 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: a thermostat? Yes? Did you did you change? Did you 81 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: change both thermostats? I put in a water temperature gauge? Nope? 82 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: Did you change? There are two thermostats in that engine, 83 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: one on the front, one in the back. Went in 84 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: the front and one in the back. Yes, yeah, there 85 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: are see verify that. I am. I am almost certain 86 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: there are two thermostats in that engine. Now, now my 87 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: concern is that you're driving it. Let's let's just stop 88 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: for a second. Let's say that that were thermostat. If 89 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: it's the engine I'm thinking of, that that rear thermostat 90 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: is defective, not allowing proper circulation. If they did head 91 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: gaskets and they didn't verify temperature and it's still had 92 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: a defective thermostat, it could have hurt the new head gaskets. 93 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: Anything's possible. Until this vehicle is sorted out, you know, 94 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: anything is possible. But the issue becomes there's there's a 95 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: twofold problem here. If you're physically putting coolant or water 96 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: in and it's disappearing, then it's it's either head gasket 97 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: or and I've I've never seen this. It's usually the 98 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: other way around. But by now the trans fluid should 99 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: be over full. I've seen problems with the radiator and 100 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: the trans cooler. Trans cooler issues on this sort of 101 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: common um Radiator efficiency very common, but you've done a 102 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: radiator and I think that eliminates the trans cooler issue. 103 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: I would be very careful and concerned. What's that rear 104 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: thermostats part in this? And how do we know that 105 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: that head gasket has been properly repaired at this point, 106 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: I would I would dare say it would be who 107 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: the repair shop that did the head gaskets to do 108 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: what we call a coolant combustion gas test where they 109 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: can Actually there's a it's it's kind of like a 110 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: Turkey based ter plays tick bulb type of tool that 111 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: a blue liquid goes in the bottom. It will inhale 112 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: fumes at the radiator cap opening. Once the vehicle is 113 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,559 Speaker 1: warm and cool and circulating. If that coolant changes color 114 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: from blue to green or blue to yellow, I forget 115 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: exactly which way it goes, but if as it changes color, 116 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: I think green is good and yellow is a indication 117 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: of a head gas gut failure combusting gas in the coolant. 118 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, then it's gotta come back apart, 119 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: or at least it's got to be diagnosed further. The 120 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: other way they could do that, obviously, is with a 121 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: five gas engine analyzer, but um, not everybody has one 122 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: of those anymore. Um, But you know, why did it fail? 123 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: Head gaskets, if it did, if it did, if it 124 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: failed head gaskets didn't do that because they were improperly done, 125 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: or there's maybe a crack and a head or something else. 126 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: Or is there a second thermostat in this and I 127 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: think there is. I believe there's a thermostat in the 128 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: back of this motor. If I remember right, it's it's 129 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: eleven years ago, twelve years ago. But um, that can 130 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: be defective and act flow as well. Yeah. Now, when 131 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: I broke the truck it it's had a say the 132 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: bypass bypassing at the bottom of the radiator from because 133 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: of I guess the transmission running through there. They bypassed 134 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: that cooling the transmission and when they put into the 135 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: radiator and I've had to put in two different radiators right, 136 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: which still gets hot. And they said they you know, 137 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: they put in the water pump when they was putting 138 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: it back together. Okay, ask them, ask him to ask 139 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: them to verify, Roger, not not not to repeat it, 140 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: but ask them to verify if that has a second 141 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: thermostatic there. For something in my mind tells me stating 142 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: the front stating the back not uncommon for both to 143 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: be replaced for one or the other to be an issue. 144 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: And also then verify if you're losing coolant or water. 145 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: I don't care if the head gaskets were just done. 146 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: Where's the water or cool and going there's there's a 147 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: leak in combustion. Take a look at engine oil, um bet, 148 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: and you won't see it. I've also seen where it 149 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: just it'll put water right in the cylinder and get 150 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: pumped right back out right through the exhausting You'll never 151 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: see It'll just it'll just evaporate a steam and come 152 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: out of the tailpipe. Um in small amounts. But it 153 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: just it just sounds like you've still got some form 154 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: of a combustion gas leak going on, possibly a head gasket. 155 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: You do that for me. You do that, get them 156 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: to check that in the next week or two. You 157 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: call me back, let me know what the result is 158 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: that we can talk about it further. But trust me, 159 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: there's an answer to this. They just haven't looked hard enough. 160 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: And let's see if we can give them some help 161 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: and move it all along the way in a positive manner. 162 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: Height five five zero running eating the car doctor. We 163 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: are back right after this when the family car needs 164 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: some fixing. There's only two things that really mat here, 165 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: getting the right part and getting some good advice. 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Let's get over and talk to 185 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: In in Kansas in Kansas, Missouri, Kansas City, Kansas City, Missouri. Okay, 186 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say Kansas, Missouri doesn't sound right. So 187 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: you gotta be out there somewhere, you know. I don't 188 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: get out much. Yeah, but you know in New York 189 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: we have Florida, New York. Well that's true, we have Florida, 190 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: New York. We also we also have um, I can't 191 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: say that on TV, on radio wherever we are. Ken Hurry, 192 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: I've asked me your question so I can get out 193 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: of this whole A man, what's going on? But okay, Well, 194 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: first of all, I'll tell you what. I enjoy your podcast. 195 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: That's where I found out about you. And they're great. 196 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: They really thank you for gold Mine. As far as 197 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: I'm concerned. I I took my car in and they 198 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: told me that my left and I just had these 199 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: rear breaks changed fifteen thousand miles ago out a year 200 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: and a half. And uh, they told me the left 201 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: rear break was completely worn down almost than nothing. So 202 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: it would appear like I assumed the caliber is sticking. 203 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: Is that what you would just say? Yeah, I would 204 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: think either the caliper or is the I think on 205 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: an three element the parking break cable is part of 206 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: the caliper correct that they say that, No, it's I 207 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: looked at up and it is. Actually is it a 208 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: separate shoe set up inside the road. It's in the 209 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: shoe inside the road. So but are they gonna do 210 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: anything for you? Well, I haven't, I haven't they. It 211 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: was towards the end of the day and he said 212 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: all those people you know, and I say, said bring 213 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: it back? And uh, And I told him I was 214 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: a really disappointed. Only breaks would only last fifteen thousand miles. 215 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: My question is from looking at how the assembly does 216 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: I had breaks apart, but it's been a you know, 217 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's been a few years and I just 218 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: don't have time to work on that stuff anymore, as 219 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: much as I enjoy it. Uh. The is it true 220 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: that you can replace those brake pads without lubricating the 221 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: caliber pins? True? By whose standard? Publicly? But I take 222 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: and from everything I've seen from looking at stuff, I 223 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: could actually go in there, leave those caliber pins in, 224 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: never move them. They don't come out in the words 225 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: when I when I take the caliber off? Is that correct? Okay? 226 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: Where are you going with this? Are you saying you 227 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,680 Speaker 1: think they did this, they didn't lose anything, or yes, 228 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: I think They'm I would have to assume either that 229 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: they used the wrong lot. Well, either that or is 230 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, the question becomes that the caliper is stuck. 231 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: It becomes a question of how did its stick? Did 232 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: it fail hydraulically? Is the pistons stuck in the boar 233 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: that it's not retracting or is it? Is it as 234 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: you say, the caliper pin and the pad is stuck 235 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: on the slide, and that's and that's going to be 236 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: the key to how the failure occurred, you know what 237 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: what went bad? And then the other question I've got is, so, 238 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: if it happened on the left side, what does the 239 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: right side look like? Light side look sign okay, But 240 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: what does it look like in terms of lube? What 241 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: does it look like in terms of you if you 242 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: take if you take the wheel off the right side, 243 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, put it on a jack stand or a 244 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: lift or whatever, grab the caliper. Can you rock the 245 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: caliper and move it on its slides? Move it on 246 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: its pins, so to speak, If it's free and loose 247 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: and easy, okay, But if that's bone dry, also we 248 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: loop caliper slides. You have to loop caliper slides, you know. 249 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: And I don't. I don't. I don't understand this. You 250 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: don't hear me say that often, Ken, But I don't 251 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: understand this. New cars don't have the brakes lubricated. The 252 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: slides are not lubricated from the factory on a lot 253 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: of new cars. And I inquired as to why, and 254 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: the answer I got what, GM, for example, has has 255 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: proven test results that are lubricant on the caliper slide 256 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: will when the car is in the paint booth, when 257 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: the car is being painted, that chemical, the the aromatic 258 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: of it, will affect the quality of the paint being 259 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: applied to the vehicle. So they leave it off and 260 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: they leave him dry. And I'm sitting there going but 261 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: but you know, that's one of those you know, you know, 262 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't It doesn't make any sense to me. I 263 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: and I've seen that more than once. So you know, 264 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: caliper slide's gotta get lubricated. There's nothing you can do 265 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: for the internal of the piston. That just becomes what 266 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: kind of shape is it in? How many miles are 267 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: on the car about almost two hundred thousand now original calipers. 268 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: I think so my daughter, my son, my daughter had 269 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: and they kept back struct I haven't been able to 270 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: transpose their records into my computer, so I don't know 271 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: for sure. I would suspect I suspect it would be 272 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: the original caliber. How long are been going to these guys? Oh, 273 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, a couple of years. And uh it's a dealer. 274 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: I wish, you know, I wish I could find some 275 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: independent thing here that I trusted. But I don't. You know, 276 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: my father has been dead fifty years. He was in 277 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: the rug business. I tell this story all the time. 278 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: There's only one chance to piss off a customer. And 279 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: that's that's basically what it is. As graphic as that is, 280 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: that's just the way it works. Um. I think if 281 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: it were me and I want you coming back, and 282 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: I want I want to be your guy, I can't 283 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: give you the break job for for free. Um, But 284 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: maybe I can cut you a deal. Maybe I can 285 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: do on labor, give you a little discount on parts, 286 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: give you a warm fuzzy make you feel better, and 287 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, charge your regular boat on the on the caliper. 288 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: I'll make something there. I'm gonna eat a little bit 289 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: on this, but I'm gonna get you to come back 290 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: because I want to show you that I'm gonna take 291 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: care of you. You'd go for that, right, absolutely? Would you? 292 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you think that? Would you be disappointed if rear 293 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: brakes came back to you fifteen thousand miles later? Otter 294 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: how old the car is? Oh? Yeah? Absolutely? Now, now, 295 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: in all fairness, I'll get a car in. I'll do 296 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: a break job on a car with a hunting five 297 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: thousand miles. Ken, we did your brakes. I looked at 298 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: your brakes. It needs pads and rotors. The calipers test good. 299 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: I can't find anything wrong with them. I am going 300 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: to I have this conversation all day long. I am 301 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: going to lose the slides because Ron goes to the 302 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: church and religion of c y a Oto repair. You know, 303 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: cover cover your fill in the blank. And I can't 304 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: swork twice in the same segment, so you know it's 305 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: it's And then Ken can decide do I want to 306 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: do calipers now or do I want to roll the dice? 307 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: And then he's gonna ask me wrong, what's the longevity? 308 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna go you know, sometimes my answer is listen. 309 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: I don't think the replacement part I can find for 310 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: your particular cars gonna be any better than what's on there. 311 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: So let's go with what's on there. It's working. Um, 312 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's two schools of thought. Again, it's 313 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: how did it fail? Did it fail because the caliper 314 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: slides are bone dry and the pad has rusted on 315 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: the slide, or did it fail because it's it's hydraulically 316 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: the piston is hydraulically locked in the caliper housing And 317 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: then there's nothing they can do about that short of 318 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: you know, then the then the only way they can 319 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: prevent that is just normal break fluid flushes. And then 320 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: that's my next question. Has the brake fluid ever been 321 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: flushed on this car? Oh? Yeah, I flushed that every 322 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: I follow your rules, every thirty thousand miles breaking book 323 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: that the N phrase comes out. Yeah. If I'm even 324 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: wondering if I shouldn't change the air compressor fluids, you know, 325 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm to that point air conditioning. Yeah, I don't. I 326 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: do what. I'm sorry, I know what you mean. YEA 327 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: to listen, I I do an evac and recover on 328 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: household vehicles ACA refrigeraint every two years, if not sooner. Um, 329 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: I think you gotta go back and have a conversation 330 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: with this guy. You're gonna find out what he's made of. 331 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: I think he's entitled to charge of something on the job. 332 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: It just depends on how the caliper failed, and it 333 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 1: also depends on what's he made of. I think this 334 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 1: is the moment, This is that cup of coffee moment 335 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: of how bad does he want to be your guy? 336 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: And how bad does he want to build that relationship? 337 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: And this is a key opportunity and chance for both 338 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: of you to learn from it. You let me know 339 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: what happens. I'm running anating the car doctor. We are 340 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: back right after this. Take good care. Hey, welcome back, 341 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: run any of the car docor zero nine zero. We're 342 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 1: up and live and rolling along today. Let's get over 343 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: and tok to Miguel in Springfield, Massachusetts. I believe it 344 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: isn't anyline gmc sonoma Miguel. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 345 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yeah? Hi? Uh So, I got 346 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: myself in a bit of a pickle right my insurance 347 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: and with my insurance company. I uh I have a 348 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: hearing coming up and I have to explain to them 349 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: why I crashed into a building. All right, brother, let's 350 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: see what we can do. How can I help? So basically, 351 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: I was driving my dad's old gmc Sonoma. It's A 352 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: ninety nine and it was February. I was pulling into work, 353 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: and as I was pulling in the the engine started 354 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: to surge on its own um And what happened was, 355 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: you know, I could control it with the brake, you know, 356 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: as it's in drive. Obviously, while the engine surging is 357 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: driving the wheels, making the vehicle lurch forward. But it 358 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: was easily controllable by just applying the brakes. You know, 359 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: if I would have let off the brakes, it probably 360 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: would have hit a top seed of like ten miles 361 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: with the surge, but either way, it was easily controllable. 362 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: I pull up to my parking spot, which is directly 363 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: in front of the building where I work, and unfortunately, 364 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: I guess I'm a victim of circumstance. I guess the 365 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: front wheels hit a patch of slush just at the 366 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: beginning of the parking spot, causing the a BS to engage. 367 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: And these older a B S systems, I guess we're 368 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: pretty touchy, and even though I was standing on the brake, 369 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: it just allowed to the vehicle to continue rolling forward. 370 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: And at that exact same moment, their vehicle started the 371 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: surge because it's in drive, it's rear wheel drive. The 372 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: rear wheels were on some relatively clear pavement plenty attraction, 373 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: so it just pushed me right into the building. Wow. Wow, 374 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: that's tough. That's a tough. And you know, I was 375 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: thinking as you were talking, I'm saying, Springfield, Massachusetts in February. 376 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: This is not Florida, so it's not ninety degrees. I'm saying, 377 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 1: when does ice come into this conversation? Because ice had 378 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: to affect something here, So you know, if the conversation 379 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: it is, what could cause intermittent high idole on one 380 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: of these There's there's a figured it out though. Okay, 381 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: what was it? Was it a cleft PCD hose. Well, 382 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: so basically what happened was a vacuum line that when 383 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: it's the break booster disengaged. Yeah, allowed for a really 384 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: massive vacuum leak and it just surged, it kept surging 385 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 1: on it. Tone. Yeah, that's what happens. The rubber hoses 386 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: on those by now it's twenty years old and they 387 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: start the dry rotten, they get rock hard. Uh. You know, 388 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: there's issues with the PCV hose assembly. There's issues with 389 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: the intake manifold elbow. There's a there's a couple of 390 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 1: elbows going up off the break booster. They crack and split. 391 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're on target. Um, you know, you just 392 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: I would just tell you to take some pictures if 393 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: or did you have it fixed already or can you 394 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: document the repair going back to your repair shop. Well, 395 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 1: ultimately that's what I'm gonna have to do, but I 396 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: wonder if I have a leg to stand on it. Basically, 397 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, search charges what they are. They're gonna they're 398 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: finding me responsible, and I have to plead my case stating, hey, 399 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: there was a malfunction of the vehicle, that is no 400 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: fault of my own victimus circumstance. I guess you could say, Um, 401 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm hoping I do do well and and they kind 402 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: of buy my story. But at the end of the day, 403 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: they're not all like you and I that understand the 404 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: whole of the ins and outs of what's going on. 405 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm speaking to the average layman. I 406 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: guess about these, uh, these mechanical issues that that aurrise 407 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: and hopefully they understand. I just don't know if what 408 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: what's weight to your opinion? What what would aside from 409 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: having a mechanic maybe write a letter and take some pictures. 410 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: What what do you recommend that I do. I'm wondering 411 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: if you could show some probable cause. You know, I'm 412 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: wondering if you could show the potential that it's a 413 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: common pattern failure, and you know, you could, you know, 414 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: you could show them that yet it's not uncommon. The 415 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 1: vehicle is twenty years old, and hopefully they're they're they're 416 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: calculating the losses of these based on twenty years. I'm 417 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: sure they're calculating your insurance based on the age of 418 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: the vehicle. I'm wondering if you showed them a pattern 419 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: failure where there are known vacuum leaked rubber hoses, elbows, 420 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: things like that that fail on one ring, if that 421 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,959 Speaker 1: would you know, sway them one way or the other. 422 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if they would apply some practicality to that. 423 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: So let's do let's do this. Take my email. Let 424 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: me see if I can help you here, Miguel, take 425 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: you get something to get a get a you know, crayon, pencil, 426 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: pen lipstick whatever. Um. This is the part where I 427 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: filled the show with noise because I've learned on radio 428 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: sound is very important. And you know, let's do uh, 429 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: let's do ron at Car Doctor Show dot com. It's 430 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: really easy. Just do ron to spell out car doctor 431 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: c A R D O C t R s h 432 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: O W. Yeah that's right. I went to school. You 433 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: go to school, stupid. Yeah, I came out the same 434 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: way ron a Car Doctor Show dot com. And let 435 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: me go into the database when I get a chance 436 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: between now and Monday and see if I can print 437 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: out because I have seen cases of high idle situations? 438 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: Would that work? If I could show you a pattern 439 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: failure of a high idle condition? What could cause a 440 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: high idle condition? That perhaps maybe that's what they're looking for? 441 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: A play anything would help? All right, do that and 442 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: you send me an email and sooner the better, and 443 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: I will send you a PD effort two of pattern 444 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: failures and explain to them what this is going to 445 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: come out of the one of the databases we use 446 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: at the shop as a product called Identifics. Identifis is 447 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: a well I guess it's international, but I consider it national. 448 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: It's a nationally recognized database for mechanics. It's kind of 449 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: like a physician's PDR. You know, a physician desk reference. 450 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: You know, if the person comes in and they're turning 451 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: purple and blue and their left to hurts, you can 452 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: look it up and say, hey, what's common what causes that? 453 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: And you know that's what identifits can do, it can 454 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: it can provide common pattern failures. It doesn't mean every 455 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: time that's what's at fault, but on the weird ones, 456 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: it gives you a direction. It gets you thinking like, hey, 457 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: let me stop and consider this as a potential possible solution. 458 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: So I will, I will see what's in there. If 459 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: I can come up with something with high idol um. 460 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: I know there's stuff in their they talk about because 461 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: it's common to have PCV hose issues. It's common to 462 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: have vacuum elbows coming off the intake plan in which 463 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: I believe actually lead to the break booster and maybe 464 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: that's the piece that failed. And you know, I could 465 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: see it. I could see that truck in a in 466 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: a in a in a in an icy condition, ice 467 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: patch in the front, dry road in the back. Um, 468 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: you know, maybe it's probably too late. Well, it's obviously 469 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: it's too late, but it would be it would have 470 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: been nice if you had gotten a picture of the 471 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: parking spot showing the ice under You did perfect, and 472 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: it shows the ice under the front wheels and the dry, 473 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: dry wheels in the back. All right, And then then 474 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: the argument not that, not that, not I'm no lawyer brother, 475 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 1: all right, but just trying to be logical about this. 476 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: Then the argument becomes is at the fault of whoever 477 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: manages the parking space that they allowed ice in the 478 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: parking lot where proper ice melting procedures followed. All right, 479 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: Ron and Matt luck you know what. On a quick 480 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: side note, I've driven a lot of different vehicles, old ones, 481 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: new ones. It seems as though, uh, anti lock break 482 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: systems are traction control systems are much more far advanced 483 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: and just do a lot better job of maintaining control 484 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: into situations like this, this this being a ninety nine. 485 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: It blows me away how much distance this truck travels 486 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 1: when I'm standing on the break in a slash condition. 487 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: I understand the whole idea behind any lock breaks. Back 488 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: in the day was to maintain control at high speeds. 489 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: But when you're just traveling at five miles an hour 490 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: coming up onto a stop sign, I've driven out into 491 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: the middle of a road, standing on the break because 492 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a bit disconcerting. Is that normal for 493 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: for that they did? Listen, the reason they improved ABS 494 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: and traction control from what it was to what it is, 495 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: in my opinion, is because of conditions like that. They're 496 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: always trying to make it safer. You know, they don't 497 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: add things. They don't add things to car just for 498 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: the sake of adding things to car. They had things 499 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: to car to make them safer. Obviously, a colust more 500 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: money and people spend more money. But they're trying to 501 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: keep us safe. I'm not sure why. But um, you know, 502 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: sometimes we need to thin out the hurt a little bit. 503 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: But that's another story. Uh, you know, it's just it 504 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: really comes back to that. Yeah, they've they've clearly made 505 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: it better than what it was that it would actually 506 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: cut power to the rear wheels, the drive wheels and 507 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: control it on a much higher level. Mcgal, I gotta go. 508 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: The clock's gonna grab me. I'm up against it. But 509 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: you send me that email Ron at Car Doctor Show 510 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,360 Speaker 1: dot com and we'll kind of go from there and 511 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: let me see what I can get out to you. 512 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: I'm Ron any and a five five zero zero. We 513 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: are back right after this. 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Welcome back, Rominading the 523 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: Car Doctor eight five zero nine nine zero zero. Got 524 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: Lucy the Wonder Dog in here in studio with me 525 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: this segment. Lucy say something here you go. So she 526 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: she knows everything about cars, folks, She's just trying to 527 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: keep it a secret from me. So let's go and 528 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: talk to Miranda. This is sort of an interesting story. 529 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is so much a call 530 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: as we wanted to ask Miranda. A couple of questions. 531 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: She is a new driver. Welcome to the roads, Miranda, 532 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: and welcome to the car doctor. Thanks for staying, Thanks 533 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: for getting in touch with us, Hi, thank you for 534 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: having me. So this is like a big deal. You're 535 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,239 Speaker 1: you're sixteen years old and you've decided to get your 536 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: driver's license. Yes, and I was very excited. And you 537 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: know that's sort of not the trend today, right, I mean, 538 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: other than Dad's taxi service was coming to an end. 539 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: What you know, what prompted you to do this? I mean, 540 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: this has gotta be a big deal. You you sounded 541 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: as excited as I was when I got my license. Well, 542 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean in New York you can, um, you can, 543 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: um take your permit test when you turn sixteen, and 544 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: then you can take Driver's ED and go through the 545 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: whole process to get your license by sixteen and a half. 546 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: And UM, I knew that when I turned sixteen, and 547 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: I felt ready. And I had been waiting for a 548 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: while watching my older brother learned to drive, and I 549 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: just I felt especially once my mom started working full 550 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: time and um my dad obviously was working as well. Um, 551 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: it was definitely something that I felt I needed to, 552 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: um to start working towards so I could kind of 553 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: be more independent take care of myself. As my parents 554 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: got busier and as I got busier as a teenager, 555 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: I felt it was very important. So um, I started 556 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,719 Speaker 1: taking driver's ed and I you know, had my permit, 557 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: and I went ahead and took my road test yesterday, 558 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: and now I have my license. We nervous, of course, Yeah, 559 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: I was really nervous. Yeah, I mean they just they 560 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 1: just sleep the night before you took the test, honestly, 561 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: not really. I was like up in the middle of 562 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: the night. Oh my god, m brother passed. How could 563 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: this be exactly? I could hear all that in my head. 564 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: I have a note in front of me that cousin 565 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: Brucy Bruce Morrow, the great radio Bruce Morrow, sent you 566 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: a note, Dear Miranda, Congratulations, exhilaration, freedom, and most importantly responsibility. 567 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Await you. You know, it's not that a lot of 568 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: kids aren't getting their license today, but enough kids aren't 569 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: driving today that it's actually made a dent in specific 570 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: things like tire sales. Tire companies are going out trying 571 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: to educate youngsters about driving and what driving is about, 572 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: and how to pick tires and things like that. So 573 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: you really are bucking the trend in a sense. Um, 574 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: what do you think of that note from cousin Brucey exhilaration, 575 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: freedom and responsibility. How do you take that? Yeah? I 576 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 1: actually looked at that, and I actually read it over 577 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: two or three times. Um I saw at first of all, 578 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: I thought it was a very kind gesture. UM. But 579 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: I also agreed very much with um all of that. Um. Definitely, 580 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: it's very liberating and um, very you have a lot 581 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: of responsibility being um a young driver out on the road. UM. 582 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: So UM, I thought it was very fitting. How Yes, 583 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: he mentioned the exhilaration and the freedom and all of that, 584 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: but also the high amount of responsibility that comes with 585 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: being a new driver, being a young driver, UM, driving 586 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: your parents cars, all of that is very important. Now 587 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: you have to have a driver with you when you 588 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: go out, correct, Uh not anymore? Okay, So you're you're 589 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: you're off permit, you're you're you're you're a driver. Yes, 590 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: So where have you gone on your own? So far? 591 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: So far? Nowhere? I was supposed to go this morning. 592 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: I was supposed to drive myself, um, somewhere, but then 593 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: my dad wanted to go with me, which is fine, 594 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: not not because of the driving aspect, but we were 595 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: just going to um prior services and you wanted to 596 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: come along, which was fine. Um, but um, we'll take Dad. 597 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: Why not he's been a sport. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. 598 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: So hopefully, I mean maybe sometime this week I'll drive 599 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: myself to work or something. Are you gonna Are you 600 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: gonna put the five dollars in the glove compartment for emergencies? Uh? Probably, 601 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: It's probably more like twenty bucks now, so you know, 602 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: and you know that gas emergency in that moment and uh, um, 603 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: you know it's a big deal. I remember when I 604 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: first started driving my first car that I drove that 605 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: I and and actually I've been driving for I've been 606 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: driving for a while under aid because I worked on 607 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: a farm and I was driving a dump truck from 608 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: the age of thirteen. And then when I had to 609 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: go from my permit, I was a little scared. I 610 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: remember this and some friends at the time she had 611 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: a she had a sixty four Chevy and Palace. So 612 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: we're going back to the early seventies. She said, get 613 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: in the car, and I drove a sixty four Chevy 614 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: and padad down roots seventeen in Ramsey, New Jersey, which 615 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: I think you know where that is. And it was 616 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, it's it's it was just 617 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: so big and the road was so big and you're 618 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: just like floating along and um, it's a big deal. 619 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: It's it's but trust me, sooner or later it's going 620 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: to get to feel normal and you know you'll enjoy 621 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: it for what it is. So you know, just to 622 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: be aware. But throw a couple of bucks in the 623 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: glove compartment and um, you know, as dad, if I'll 624 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: show you how to change of flat or at least 625 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: make sure you have triple A or some thing like 626 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: that for the emergency that might come up, right, definitely. Yeah, 627 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: So well listen, good luck to you, and um, it's 628 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: a pleasure to speak with someone you know, young people 629 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: that have got the responsibility and to drive in the hutzpah. 630 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: And I think I think you got all three kiddos. 631 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: So you go out and you you have a good 632 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: time driving, and we wish you a lot of success. 633 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. You're very welcome. 634 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: You take good care. Um, yeah, Tom, that's uh, you know, 635 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: looking at right a young driver well on her way, 636 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: And um, um, how cool is that? That's just I 637 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: think that's excellent. Yeah, I really do, because you and 638 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: I were talking before, and it just seems that this 639 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: is a do it. There's a rite of passage that 640 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: people are passing up. You know. Yeah, it's it's it's 641 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: a big deal. It really is. It is a rite 642 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: of passage. Um. So Miranda again, congratulations and safe travels 643 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: eight zero run any of the car Doctor. We're back 644 00:33:48,720 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: right after this. I don't want to talk. I like 645 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: this song and the car Doctor. I wish you'd stop 646 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: dancing around the studio. This is the one that gets me. 647 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: Taught my burn, baby burn all right. By the way, 648 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: where's Tony today? Oh? Tony had the weekend off this week. 649 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: Tony went to see family down in Texas. That's right 650 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: down there, looking for some more barbecue. Um he's always eating. 651 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: Well that that and uh he sent He posted a 652 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: picture on Facebook the other day. It looks like the 653 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: uh the King of the Hill guys standing out there. 654 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: All they needed is beer cans in a trash and 655 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: garbage bag of garbage they would have been all said, 656 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: And safe travels to Tony. We miss you. Buddy, UM, 657 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: come on home. A couple of questions, and I wanted 658 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: to talk about that, this this, I wanted to talk 659 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: about this this hour, this, this hour. Yeah, that's proper wranglers, 660 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: Um wrong. A couple of questions from Mr Howard uh 661 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: regarding self driving cars. Gonna self driving car understand the 662 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 1: difference between a child losing control of a tricycle heading 663 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: down a driveway compared to a person walking to the mailbox. 664 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: And you wonder, you know, will it see so the 665 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: kids coming down the the child's coming down the driveway 666 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: and they lose control of the tricycle. A driver might 667 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: be trained to cast their eye right and left and 668 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: see that. Would a self driving car see that? And 669 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't have that answer, And that's again good question. 670 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: The second part of this was could a self driving 671 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: car understand the difference between a child running toward the 672 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: road while chasing a ball compared to a dog chasing 673 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: a ball while running towards the road because a dog 674 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 1: might be lower. All right, what's what's their line of sight? 675 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: And how will they how will they define that? And 676 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: then what if it's a small dog? What I mean, Granted, 677 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: people shouldn't be playing with dogs near the road. That's 678 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, that's common sense too. We're not trying to 679 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: make this completely ridiculous. Um. On a side note, Michael continues, 680 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm a truck driver. The most recent batch of trucks 681 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: we gotta have leading departure of warning. Not only is 682 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: it annoying, but I never realized how often I partially 683 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: leave my lander get very tight to the line for 684 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: good reason. It seems on a regular basis I have 685 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: to dodge junk in the road, things like chunks of tire, wood, 686 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: giant potholes, among all other kinds of things. So um, 687 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: it makes some good points about self driving cars in 688 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: the technology until the next time I'm running any in 689 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor, good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.