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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Oh little extra helping of art on your Monday morning. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you stumbled into it. This is the four time award

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Speaker 2: winning Morning Combat your Combat Sports home on this Monday,

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Speaker 2: December nineteenth, twenty and twenty two. I'm Brian Campbell. Happy holidays,

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Speaker 2: just one half of course of this multi time award

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Speaker 2: winning beloved duo. But solemnly on this morning, we do

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Speaker 2: open with breaking news. Forty three year old co host

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Speaker 2: of Morning Combat, a native of New Delhi, India, Luke Thomas,

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Speaker 2: is running late for the show this morning. Everybody knows

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Speaker 2: the increased chemistry the two have together when these award

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Speaker 2: winning partnership comes together within Jersey City in the bomb

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Speaker 2: shelter turned Eden of Sin known as the Guilty Pleasure.

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Speaker 2: That is this damn place right now? What do we

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Speaker 2: even call it? This day?

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Speaker 2: I don't know Luke Thomas running late. His disappearance is

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Speaker 2: not expected to be connected to the World Cup or

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Speaker 2: the public stances he has made against the Qatari government.

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Speaker 2: As we all know, Luke broke those promises on day

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Speaker 2: one of the tournament and began watching. But this is

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Speaker 2: likely due to delays in the District of Columbia transport situation,

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Speaker 2: which has brought to mind whether that same award winning

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Speaker 2: co host Brian Campbell would hold any ill will today

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Speaker 2: against his partner for that incident that dates back to

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Speaker 2: December thirtieth, twenty nineteen, the Live New Year's Drinking show

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Speaker 2: in this same student where a delayed train in Fearfield,

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Speaker 2: I do believe we have our roving reporter, Jake von Amsterdam,

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Speaker 2: We'll get updates as soon as Luke arrives and instant

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Speaker 2: analysis from Jake von Amsterdam about what went wrong in

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Speaker 2: this rather regrettable unprofessional situation. But back to the show

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Speaker 2: You know, he may have been through the Wars, both

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Speaker 2: That's the street corner where Luke's car will drop him off.

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Speaker 2: Will we get a you know, a Luke willing to

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Speaker 2: Year's right and Bellatur versus Risen. That should be the

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Speaker 4: It's my show and it's my rules.

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Speaker 2: And you know, when I say BC cares, if don't

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Speaker 2: But that's, you know, that's the business we've entered here

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Speaker 4: And what for the He's surly for sure.

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Speaker 5: Blame Amtrak, motherfucker. I got I was at my train

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Speaker 2: Trains doors wooden close to switch train, Lucas in the studios,

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Speaker 2: the four year, the well, the well Holiday decorated in

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Speaker 2: that plays out. Thomas, is it transmitting? No, it's not it.

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Speaker 2: You have to live you holy shit, it's live, all right.

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Speaker 7: It is Luke Thomas, everybody, live and direct from the

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Speaker 2: Do you think I should have cleared it with you

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Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna give him a chance to unbuckle. Luke. We

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Speaker 2: we're gonna let it fly? Yeah all right? Well, well, Luke,

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Speaker 2: that some would say that about Radio Morning DJ, some

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Speaker 5: Lud get on a train. I had to get up

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Speaker 5: So here here's what happened. Ye, let's got on the

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, by the way, it was train great band,

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Speaker 8: You know my ex girlfriend liked.

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Speaker 8: Like what what what am I supposed to do about that?

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Speaker 2: It's always been an issue, you know, you there, there

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Speaker 2: the bathroom real quick, we'll get this. Yeah, that's fine,

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Speaker 2: that's fine. Jake, will just you know, just document each

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Speaker 2: step of this journey. You follow me, where's Jake? Put them? Jake?

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Speaker 5: If you follow me, put the micro put the microphone,

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Speaker 5: put the camera on me. Yeah, Jake, if you follow me,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna punch you in your fucking nose. You understand,

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Speaker 2: Okay. I was expecting much more. I'm expecting violence. I

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Speaker 8: Look at me, Hey, I come blood. Okay, there we go.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean you know, wow, Luke almost bit it

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Speaker 2: Georgian by choice, but now a DC or for life.

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Speaker 2: He has you know, neglected a few things in life,

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Speaker 2: to me I'm pointing at it is the infamous Room.

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Speaker 4: Service diaries couch.

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Speaker 2: Some would argue to say at this point, the foundation

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Speaker 2: Today we have a special guest on there won't be live,

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Speaker 2: you'll see it after the fact. But but here's a

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Speaker 2: I think you know where I'm going there. Hey, I'm

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Speaker 4: This is how I used to dress in.

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Speaker 2: The nineties all the time, and I've got that nineties

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Speaker 2: You can dead wrong me. But David Wells pitching against

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Speaker 2: Eric Koondog was with me at Alex Waalkuski and we

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas Luke. You know jokes aside, how was your weekend?

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Speaker 2: Sorry for the long commute that you had endured, that

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Speaker 5: I had a dinner with a friend last night who

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Speaker 5: He's been in DC since. So we went to high

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Speaker 2: Come up north, brother.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I don't want to live in Jersey. You don't

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Speaker 2: You can live like outside of White Plains and those

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Speaker 2: I lived in White Plans? Here's question.

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Speaker 5: If I lived in White Plains, how much does that really.

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Speaker 2: Cut down on my commute? A lot? On your commute

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Speaker 5: But I take the high speed train. Okay, I get

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Speaker 5: It's just that we couldn't get out.

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Speaker 2: The fuck out. There are so many Jersey suburbs that Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm a Connecticut guy, so I've I've been. You know,

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It's the armpit of our country. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: with respects to Aaron Blanchfield, but Luke, I will say

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Speaker 2: You could commute in on a train. You could be

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Speaker 2: happy each day. Dude, this is what I did. I

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Speaker 2: Two key could grow up in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 5: Am I saving money by moving to Brooklyn? I mean

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Speaker 5: much this wrecked my health. I did this two times

431
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Speaker 5: a week, every week for all for fifty of the

432
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Speaker 5: fifty two weeks when I did the beat my.

433
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Speaker 2: Last year, it was the worst year of your life.

434
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Speaker 5: It was the worst fucking year of my life. Well

435
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Speaker 5: that's not saying no, the year my mom had died

436
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Speaker 5: was the wors year in my life. But professionally, like,

437
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Speaker 5: I ruined myself that year.

438
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Speaker 2: You know what you always had in your bag Giant

439
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Speaker 2: bags of edible gummies and giant bags of like beef jerky.

440
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Speaker 2: You always had that in your bag, and you were

441
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Speaker 2: angry each time I come in for the MMA, or

442
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Speaker 2: you're angry or beat whatever it was, you know, the

443
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Speaker 2: post aerial era, which there's a growing movement that looked

444
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Speaker 2: back on that very kindly, very fondly, that era postterial,

445
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Speaker 2: because there was an injection of, you know, really like

446
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Speaker 2: a new hope, like an episode four vibe into that

447
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Speaker 2: show when you say, people are you saying you you know,

448
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Speaker 2: I've built a a small following. They're mighty, though they're

449
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Speaker 2: very mighty. We got to get the show going. Did

450
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Speaker 2: we have reads? I don't even I took care of

451
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Speaker 2: all that. We are going to start right now with

452
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Speaker 2: topic number one. Back script right now, just this first topic, Luca,

453
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Speaker 2: I will set you up middleweight till as I mentioned,

454
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Speaker 2: and this was big, both coming off of big losses

455
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Speaker 2: a title loss for Cannoneer against ads Sonia and of

456
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Speaker 2: course Sean Stricken getting knocked out by Alex Prededa. But Luke,

457
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: what we saw in the end was a very tactical

458
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Speaker 2: I thought, a fun fight in the end really though

459
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Speaker 2: not a full time action by any means, but very

460
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Speaker 2: high level and a split decision victory for Jared Cannon

461
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Speaker 2: Are at thirty eight years old, The Killa Gorilla advancing

462
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Speaker 2: on Luke Thomas. Your score for this.

463
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Speaker 5: Fight, Okay, We're going to go back and do the

464
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Speaker 5: regular thing that we normally do, which is to say

465
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Speaker 5: that if you have a wide disparity in scores, it's

466
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Speaker 5: not quite the same as boxing. Where in boxing because

467
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Speaker 5: you have twelve rounds and it's just sort of one

468
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Speaker 5: style of combat. If you have a score like, you know,

469
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Speaker 5: one twenty to something, that usually does indicate it was

470
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Speaker 5: it was dominant.

471
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Speaker 2: MMA is not quite that way.

472
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Speaker 5: I had a forty nine forty six for kennan Ere,

473
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Speaker 5: but I recognize there were at least two more rounds

474
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Speaker 5: that were pretty Do you feel.

475
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Speaker 2: Like the first three rounds could have gone either way

476
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Speaker 2: all the way? Yeah? Yeah, I do, Yeah, I do.

477
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Speaker 2: I do think that this is not a Doug Crosby situation.

478
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Speaker 2: This is a you.

479
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Speaker 5: No, It's not like you could have scored it for strickling.

480
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Speaker 5: It's not impossible, right, not at all. And again I

481
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Speaker 5: think the judge is correct me if I'm wrong. It

482
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Speaker 5: was forty nine forty six two times and then forty

483
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Speaker 5: nine forty six the other way, like that tells you

484
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Speaker 5: the reality Again, you go back to Max versus Frankie

485
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Speaker 5: Edgar was fifty forty five, I believe on some of

486
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Speaker 5: the judges' scorecards. But Frankie was in that fight. It

487
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Speaker 5: was kind of close. It's just that each round he

488
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Speaker 5: was a little bit short. I think this is the

489
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Speaker 5: case here. However you scored each round, the other guy

490
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Speaker 5: was not far apart. Maybe the end of that fifth

491
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Speaker 5: was kind of a blitz where they were all sort

492
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Speaker 5: of going crazy or whatever. But the first four and

493
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Speaker 5: a half rounds, one guy was just however you saw it,

494
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Speaker 5: one guy was just nudging the other one away. I

495
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Speaker 5: saw Sean Strickling was really upset at the judging, which

496
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Speaker 5: I can understand. I think he feels he fights in

497
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Speaker 5: a way where he feels like I'm going to land

498
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Speaker 5: things that I feel like are more important, and I'm

499
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Speaker 5: going to disregard what the opponent does as like a

500
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Speaker 5: meaningful thing. But it seemed to me, you see, how

501
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Speaker 5: maybe you disagree, it felt like to me the job

502
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Speaker 5: of Strickland was nice, but the clearly more damaging shots

503
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Speaker 5: came from Cannon ear right.

504
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Speaker 2: And I think like what I love. My favorite part

505
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Speaker 2: about this fight was right before round five the speech

506
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Speaker 2: is to be fair that both corners gave. But you know,

507
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Speaker 2: we love him as a sometimes guest of our show.

508
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: Eric Nixon speech to ducaus Strickland before round five was

509
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Speaker 2: not only on point, the perfect advice at the right tone,

510
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: a little bit cutting, like come on, guy, go out there,

511
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Speaker 2: like you know, I don't know where these scorecards are at,

512
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Speaker 2: and to be fair, I didn't know entering that point.

513
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Speaker 2: But we didn't get the response that the corner was

514
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Speaker 2: looking for, and I think they but this is one

515
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Speaker 2: of the better I got. I gotta say this is

516
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Speaker 2: one of the better analyzed fights that I've seen sometime,

517
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Speaker 2: and I give that credit to Paul Brenonford Scherild was

518
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Speaker 2: the play playman, right, but who I like a lot

519
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Speaker 2: as well. But I give it specifically the way that

520
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Speaker 2: Paul Felder and Dominic Cruz bounced off each other and

521
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: their different personalities and the way that they interjected the

522
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Speaker 2: experience of having ben fighters to some of these moments,

523
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Speaker 2: Like I thought that was the peak of what this

524
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Speaker 2: art form is. Sometimes it's just to entertain these tupe

525
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Speaker 2: people annoyed by it and you turn the volume down.

526
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Speaker 2: I thought they nailed a lot of it where Strickland

527
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: was just going to lean at the end of the

528
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Speaker 2: day into what he felt was comfortable and what he

529
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Speaker 2: could get off in the danger that was coming at him,

530
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Speaker 2: and the danger was increasing as Cannoneer listened to his corner,

531
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Speaker 2: which gave great advice to step up the pressure in

532
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Speaker 2: those championship rounds. And I think, you know, if Strickland

533
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Speaker 2: had been more active with the kicks or anything more

534
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Speaker 2: than what he his you know, bread and butter that

535
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Speaker 2: he was trying to do, he may have opened up

536
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: more doors to have opportunities. But Luke, it was an

537
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 2: arms race in the end. He didn't have the he

538
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: didn't have the bigger weapon between the two. And you know,

539
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Speaker 2: without shooting for takedowns, without trying to get off of

540
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Speaker 2: what is jab jab occasional right hand, you just could

541
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Speaker 2: weigh the power punches too much or with the leg

542
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Speaker 2: strikes of what cannon Air was doing. The volume of Strickland,

543
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Speaker 2: it wasn't overwhelming enough to offset the power on the

544
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Speaker 2: other side.

545
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Speaker 5: There a story the fight right there. I don't know this,

546
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Speaker 5: so I would have to ask Sean Strickland how he feels.

547
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: I wonder if a guy who boxes that way feels

548
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Speaker 5: like if I'm blocking punches, because you could see a

549
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 5: lot of them were bouncing off the arms or the

550
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 5: forearms of Sean Strickland.

551
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Speaker 8: I wonder if he felt like that should be counted.

552
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Speaker 5: And for folks who mean, I know, defense in certain

553
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Speaker 5: forms of defense actually does count in the one system,

554
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 5: like takedown, defense is actually scored in the one system.

555
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 5: But in the ten point must system and the one

556
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Speaker 5: we use in North America predominantly anyway, the one the

557
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 5: UFC uses, I should say, defense is not scored. It

558
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: is defense is considered its own reward. But you could

559
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Speaker 5: see him pulling out of the way blocking punches, like

560
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 5: doing whatever he had to do, and that was nice.

561
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Speaker 5: It's slick, but they have re they have changed the

562
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Speaker 5: scoring system in such a way where offense is really

563
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Speaker 5: all that is scored. It's not that all that matters,

564
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 5: but it's all that scored. And kennonear you could see

565
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 5: like even some of those inside Lake kecksy would tear

566
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Speaker 5: him off of his base.

567
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Speaker 2: Although Sean Strickland had some good Thames Strickland ended kind

568
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Speaker 2: of limping a little in that that shows damage sometimes

569
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Speaker 2: when you're looking to separate in a close round. So

570
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Speaker 2: Cannon heir. Look, I think at the end of the day,

571
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: Strickland didn't do what could have given him a better argument.

572
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: In the end, I think the reason why he didn't

573
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Speaker 2: do that is because Cannon near is this good, this

574
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: technically strong, especially when the tier isn't the A plus level,

575
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: when it's just that step down, then you really see

576
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: how smart in the IQ Cannoneer has in his setups.

577
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 2: Did Jared Cannoneer accomplish re establishing that he is a

578
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 2: title threat and that he's still among the elite in

579
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Speaker 2: this division?

580
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Speaker 5: No, well, in the elite of the division top five.

581
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 5: He was top three into this he beat top six,

582
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 5: So yeah, he's firmly top five.

583
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 2: Because when I say elite, I mean everybody in that elite,

584
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: which is normally four or five fighters whatever, sometimes can

585
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 2: be more or less on any given night, they can

586
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: win the championship, that they can go on a run,

587
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: they're two fights away from you know, doing it. I

588
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: think he's in that class. So it's still going to

589
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: be matchup dependent. As we saw, he couldn't figure Yata

590
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: sign you out and wasn't willing to take the risk,

591
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: probably because he knows what would have happened.

592
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Speaker 5: But no, to me, it's to me, it's the pareta,

593
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: is he rob Race, It's those three and then it's

594
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 5: everybody else. That's kind of how I see it, And

595
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 5: to me, this fight didn't change any of it.

596
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a little bit more forgiving here. Cannon near

597
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: on one of my favorite fighters in terms of style

598
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: and mindset and how he just to watch. I think, look,

599
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 2: he was close to Robert Whittaker. There were ways he

600
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: was very much close in that fight in ways that

601
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: I think he could do better. I think is he's

602
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: just always going to be a bad matchup for him,

603
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: But what about the idea and some things obviously have

604
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: to go his way, and it's not like Cannon is

605
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:28,959
Speaker 2: going to get the call tomorrow for a second tell.

606
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: So he's probably got one more big win, whether that's

607
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 2: a Coast versus Whitaker winner or whatever, was a big

608
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: win matchup dependent what if Poeton stays the champion. Is

609
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: that a matchup where where Cannon Neir is a legitimate

610
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: health threat. I think that's a very interesting fight.

611
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 5: It all goes back to the question of Padata's takedown

612
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 5: defense and how sturdy it is and how continuous it

613
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 5: could be. Remember, that would be a five round contest,

614
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 5: not a three.

615
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: Cannon Air can go deep, Canonnir can go deep.

616
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Speaker 5: Hisake his I don't have it the numbers in front

617
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 5: of me, but I believe his offensive takedown percentage is

618
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 5: low in terms of what he actually scores there. It's

619
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Speaker 5: not like he'd be like, obviously, the biggest threat to

620
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 5: Podata to me is Robert Whittaker. I think that I

621
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 5: think that's pretty fair to say. Beyond that, it begins

622
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 5: to be a little bit less clear. Yeah, I do

623
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 5: think that Whittaker would be an interesting fight with Podata.

624
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 5: Matchup dependent, But I just mean, there are those three

625
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 5: guys at the top. The potato is the Whittakers and

626
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 5: the Izzies. They can do things, and they are they

627
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 5: are really tough matchups for each other in very very

628
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: distinct ways. The guys below them they are not to

629
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 5: be ignored or insulted. And I hope that's not what

630
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 5: the message I'm sending here, but rather that I do

631
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 5: see that, like, could one guy here for me change

632
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 5: that view of Like, there's the top three guys, and

633
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 5: all of them have some unique weaknesses. Could this fight

634
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 5: shake up that order? I didn't see this fight as

635
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 5: shaking up that order really at all. I felt like

636
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 5: it was we kind of not knew what we already knew.

637
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 5: This was a big opportunity for Sean Strickland to be

638
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 5: some top three.

639
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was. It was a very close fight, certainly,

640
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: but I think it was.

641
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was one ten, one ten in the odds

642
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 5: heading into it, minus one ten both directions. But still like,

643
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 5: did I leave this fight feeling like I got a

644
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 5: brand new perspective on something?

645
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: Not not really?

646
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 4: You know they are who you thought they were.

647
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: A final question on Strickland, then no one's going to

648
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: hold the caliber of the fighters he lost to in

649
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: succession right here against him, because this is, you know,

650
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: separate from Whitaker, the very best of this division here

651
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: in at Asania. Did we learn though, through the knockout

652
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: loss to Poetan and now this decision loss, that Sean

653
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: Strickland has hit his ceiling or is there still a

654
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: potential adjustment addition to his gamers. This about as good

655
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: as it gets.

656
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 8: And that's not me saying that, No, he's only thirty one.

657
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 8: He's only thirty one.

658
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 5: But I will say the thing you mentioned previously that

659
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 5: I went back to before rounds four. It may have

660
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 5: even been been before that, but certainly before rounds four

661
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 5: and five, Eric Nixon was in his face, right side,

662
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 5: teep up the middle, do it. He was telling him

663
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 5: over and over and over he's wide open for it,

664
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 5: and you didn't even really see strict and attempt it.

665
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 5: To me, it's like whatever he's done to bring himself

666
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 5: to this level that is certainly a very high level,

667
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: just outside top five Ish territory something like that. But

668
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 5: if he wants to get to the next level, there

669
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 5: is some skill development that has to happen. Okay, there

670
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 5: is a change that has to happen. This is not enough.

671
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 5: What he has is very commendable, but is what he

672
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 5: has good enough to beat top five guys. No Cannoneer

673
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 5: can beat top five guys. I don't think he can

674
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 5: beat the championship guys. That to me is the difference.

675
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 2: Mat tip dependent and he's running out of time, But

676
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: I don't think he has slipped. I think with Cannoneer,

677
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: it's all about just finding the right formula on the

678
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: right night. The right strategy with enough offense. You got

679
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: to give him credit. He listened to the critics. He

680
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 2: uped his output. This fight, different opponent, but he upped

681
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: his output. He went after it a bit more against Strickland.

682
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: I thought that was a going after performance. It wasn't

683
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 2: going after like I think his ability could lead to

684
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: I think he could be more of a destroyer. I

685
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: think he's a guy that realized at some point, if

686
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: I want to contend for a title, I've got to

687
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 2: lock down my setup, game, my technique, my box, my footworking.

688
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 2: To his credit, Luke, he's a lot. He's a lot

689
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: more elite than people realize.

690
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 8: He has massively cleaned up his game.

691
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 5: Is that what you mean, because that's what like really

692
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 5: really getting rid of the things that were holding him back.

693
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: He did a lot of it. He didn't. You could

694
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: tell he got to a certain crossroads. He was like,

695
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 2: I can either go down this road and be a

696
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: knockout threat but be kind of one dimensional, or I

697
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: can really round out my skills and learn the game.

698
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: And dude, I think he's becomeing a hell of a

699
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: game player. His team obviously is well respected.

700
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but the Lake Kicks against the jabs indicating

701
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 5: the post fight comments or right on the money.

702
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: But it's like, sometimes I do think when he is

703
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: fighting the very very best, where their skill and technique

704
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: is just going to be a slight slot higher, he's

705
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 2: got to amp up the threat of violence more. He's

706
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: got to be a little bit more willing. I thought

707
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: this fight, although again not the same scare level on

708
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: the other side of compared to like an Adosania, but

709
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: he I liked, he's he upped it in the championship

710
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: rons at least.

711
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 5: Have You know, what's interesting to me is like if

712
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 5: you had the style like that Strickland did, Like, why

713
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 5: didn't he change much through the rounds? Is because he

714
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 5: probably felt like he was winning right, Like you could

715
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 5: say his face, he was very very surprised and annoyed

716
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 5: or disgusted whatever there was or.

717
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: He felt anytime he stepped up he was met with

718
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: instant that too.

719
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 5: But here's my point. Imagine that the distinction was clearer. Now,

720
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 5: imagine that strictly knew knew he was maybe not going

721
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 5: to get knocked out, but not going to win. What

722
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 5: would have been the other place he would have gone

723
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 5: to in this fight to change that we think he

724
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 5: would have gone.

725
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 2: To the takedown.

726
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 5: There was a couple of times actually where he was

727
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 5: getting teed off on he wrapped up a little bit.

728
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: You watched some of his earlier fights, and you know

729
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: there was more wrestling, and you know that's always matchup

730
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: dependent on the level who you're fighting. But you know

731
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: he's gnarly on top when he gets that. Could he

732
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: do that against somebody strong as Cannon? I don't know,

733
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: but should he have at least established that threat and

734
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: to Nixon's point, even if he's not going to score

735
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: with those kicks, at least add that to the equation.

736
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: It was a little bit too predictable for this level.

737
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: But I did love Krusenfelder together at the point that

738
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 2: I think they might be my favorite duo of analyst.

739
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite duo of the moment? Are

740
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 2: you still an old school meat Potatoes Rogan and DC

741
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: guy favorite UFC tandem together for a big fight in

742
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: terms of analysts, like like, they're not gonna put Cruisenfelder

743
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: together on a pay per view next next time, but

744
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: I think they want.

745
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I think they could be great.

746
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: Well.

747
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 8: John Annick is special but.

748
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: Well annex always there. Yeah.

749
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he's like sort of like a given that, Ani,

750
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 5: I will you're gonna laugh at this, and you're gonna

751
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 5: tell me I'm out of my mind. I actually feel

752
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 5: like the best answer if you're if you're not counting Annik,

753
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 5: is gonna be Fitzgerald and Laura Senko actually.

754
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: Just the two of them calling pay per views.

755
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 5: No, not calling pay per views. But you're asking me, like.

756
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: Talking about what would be your personal a team for

757
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: me right now, I have to have a three man team. Annick,

758
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: Felder and Cruz for me would would be my team.

759
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,479
Speaker 2: But I don't think they would do that because somebody

760
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: like DC and Rugan brings so much more personality and

761
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: name value and I get that.

762
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, probably if uh Felder would be the other

763
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 5: person that would add there. I feel like, here's what's

764
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 5: gonna people. Some people like Contender series, some people don't.

765
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 5: Some people are like, oh, it's just a scam to

766
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 5: sign a bunch of young guys to a cheap contract

767
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 5: and half of them are not gonna last. That might

768
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 5: be partly true, Yeah, it's not altogether unfair. However, I

769
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 5: find that again, I've said it before, calling MMA fights

770
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 5: live is insanely difficult, insanely difficult, and I feel like

771
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 5: there's not a lot of attempt necessarily to get to

772
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 5: the real important details.

773
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 2: It often feels a little bit surface level.

774
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I feel like if you watch Contender series,

775
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 5: Cenko and Felder do an excellent job at getting a

776
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 5: level below that. And you know people are gonna have

777
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 5: comments about this, I'm sure, being like, oh, you're sleeping

778
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 5: on X and Y.

779
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: I'm not.

780
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 5: I really believe that there's not a lot of attempts

781
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 5: at really driving at what is important in a fight. Uh,

782
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,320
Speaker 5: and that Felder and Cenko, along with Fitzgerald or Anaku whoever,

783
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 5: can bring that to bear better than others.

784
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: Interesting take from you, Luke Thomas.

785
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 5: But we'll say everyone kills DC, and I understand some

786
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 5: of the criticisms against him, I will say that when

787
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 5: it comes to wrestling in a fight, yes, he is

788
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 5: by far the best person in the UFC to call that.

789
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: And even though I sometimes change being a huge pro

790
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: DC a team guy in the slipping back sometimes, but dude,

791
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: he's entertaining. He's like that feel good voice. But I

792
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 2: think sometimes people look down on that and undervalue that skill.

793
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 5: Also, I will say this about Cruz Cruise for a

794
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 5: long time, what's my favorite and many ways I still

795
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 5: like what he does. But there are criticisms about Cruise

796
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 5: about whether or not he fully understands the scoring criteria

797
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 5: or humor.

798
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 8: Well, I don't care about that.

799
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 9: I mean, if you're like, I've been the dom Cruise

800
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 9: of this show since day exactly, like that part is

801
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 9: to me not necessarily a deal breaker, a deal breaker,

802
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 9: but I do think that I certainly I'm not in.

803
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 5: A position to criticize anything he says about the fights themselves,

804
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 5: but in terms of about the scoring, it does feel

805
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 5: like something is missing in terms of his acceptance of

806
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 5: how fights are scored these days.

807
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: What's the best is? This will close this conversation. Who

808
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 2: does can't? Who should can? In your fight? Next?

809
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 8: In your eyes, he was calling for a title shot.

810
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: I'm not. It's not happened.

811
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 4: So Autustni is getting the next shot, right, we feel

812
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: that to be true.

813
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 5: Right, And as he already indicated, it's Whittaker and then

814
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,479
Speaker 5: Costa no matter what coast, and then it's for Torri

815
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: and the right maybe maybe maybe the winner of that,

816
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 5: maybe the winner or the loser of Costa Whittaker something

817
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 5: like that, not.

818
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: Like a Brunson or somebody jumping up or I mean

819
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: nothing like that, right, Uh, somebody have to be hot, yeah, exactly.

820
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 5: Or Hamzad Whittaker versus excuse me that Witker Cannoneer versus

821
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 5: hamsat Like you want Hamzad to get because here's the thing.

822
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 5: At one eighty five, right, everyone about Hamsad is like, oh,

823
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 5: he hasn't been tested at one eighty five. That's true.

824
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 5: He's been tested at one seventy. He's not been tested

825
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: at one eighty five. Boy, Kennon ear is a pretty

826
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: goddamn tough test if you ask me.

827
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, yeah, I don't think they'll do that cause

828
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: I think that because the fight behind the scenes, the

829
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: promotion has to make a decision of whether they're sending

830
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: Hamzat to the welterweight title picture or the middleweight one

831
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: rather than both at the same time. Right, you got

832
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 2: to make the decision. I feel like they've made the

833
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 2: welterweight decision. That's why I feel like Colby is a

834
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: very good fight that can make you know. In early

835
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. For Hamza, I think it's more likely

836
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: he fights the winner of Edward Usmon three. If it happens,

837
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: doesn't Camarrow we have issues right now. Apparently he had

838
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: hands surgery again or has to get surgery of some

839
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 2: I saw that he will not necessarily be ready by

840
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 2: the deadline to have the next show yet. Speaking role

841
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 2: on Wakanda Forever, and you know it wasn't quite Tyrone

842
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: Woodley as sence A Odell from the Cobra Kai series,

843
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: but it was pretty cool. Yeah.

844
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 8: I still haven't seen that yet.

845
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: You won't because you hate teens apparently, you know which

846
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,439
Speaker 2: is seen. I mean some are in some ways. That's

847
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: you know, that's I like that, like you you know,

848
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: it's it's the anti Sandusky and you and I appreciate that.

849
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 5: But it's like, dude, the teens have the most boring,

850
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 5: uninteresting lives imaginable.

851
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: See. I come from a community where your life peaks

852
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 2: at seventeen, So there's exactly there's like this romanticism of

853
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: honor and valor at that age, like anything's possible.

854
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 5: It's like you actually examine the ages that Romeo and

855
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 5: Juliet were supposed to be.

856
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's like just just let them die like

857
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 8: their lives are stupid.

858
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, hey, you take over the hosting of the show,

859
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: please God.

860
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 5: All right, let's get to a point for two. I

861
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 5: think on this camera another prediction that did not get right.

862
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: I was actually very surprised by this, although I still

863
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 5: have some criticisms. B see, I think the Armenian community

864
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 5: is about to ex community. They might, they might, But

865
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 5: here here's the good news for the Armenian community. Arman

866
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 5: sar Yukian not only beat damir Isma Gooulov, he broke

867
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 5: his seven year win streak, which is pretty remarkable. And

868
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 5: I gotta say the takedowns came way easier than even

869
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 5: I thought they were going to. You gotta understand this

870
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 5: guy had a ninety percent plus takedown defensive rate Ismagoulov

871
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 5: did and the only guy to get him down prior

872
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 5: to this in the UFC was Guram Kutte Lazze.

873
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 8: He could barely do it. Boy, sar Yukian ran over him.

874
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 5: BC, exactly what did you learn about sar Ukian from

875
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 5: this performance?

876
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: He supported my lack of fear on the dangers of

877
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: this type of matchmaking, which is, you know what the

878
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: biggest storyline coming in is After seeing Starrukian lose on

879
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: the high level and his debut to the now champ

880
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: and then, of course, seeing what happened in the fight

881
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: most recently against camera, that could have gone either way.

882
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: You could have questioned, if you know what, well, if

883
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: he loses this too, are we entering are you going

884
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: down the Dan Hooker road. No, he's not Luke. He's

885
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: also a brick shit house.

886
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 5: First of all, Jesus Christ. But what I learned one

887
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 5: day I would like to look like that. When I say,

888
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 5: I don't mean like like, go back to the other picture. Here,

889
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 5: go back, go back.

890
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: This guy looks like an action here.

891
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm gonna point to something. This, God damn it,

892
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 5: this is the back of his adeltoid. This is the

893
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 5: rear Deltoid.

894
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: Here that's Jurassic back.

895
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 5: These are these are his These are his fucking traps.

896
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 5: I mean, you gotta be shitting me. He when I

897
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 5: say one day, I mean it's forty three, it's over

898
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 5: for me. I'd have to be on steroids to look

899
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 5: like this.

900
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: But what I would say is if there was just

901
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: a day in my life, just a single day, I

902
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 2: could look like that.

903
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd be the liver king, I just walk around, kits.

904
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 2: What we saw in the fight is why I wasn't nervous,

905
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: meaning he had the right mentality and look, he's a

906
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: fricking hammer hashtag holy hammer. Hell, yes he is, but

907
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: he had that mentality mixed fueling it properly in aggression

908
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: and aggression and physicality is ultimately what one of this fight. Luke.

909
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: It wasn't just the constant threat of the takedowns, but dude,

910
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: he worked his kicking game in at a level that

911
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: inspired level to make it a constant weapon. You could

912
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: still argue that his striking overall is still raw and

913
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 2: still against the very very technical elite, and this his

914
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 2: opponent Iskimagulov is to a certain degree of that. But Luke,

915
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: the physicality is what kept a mirror out of this

916
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 2: because that kicking game the thread of his striking. Dude,

917
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: he just acted like a badass, Luke. In the threat

918
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: of the choke on the ground once he did get

919
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: a takedown was always there. He didn't get a lot

920
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: of ground and pound, but in this case he was

921
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 2: just constantly a threat, constantly trying to win the fight.

922
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: That all in all, Luke, He's exactly where he needs

923
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 2: to be to go back into the even deeper parts

924
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 2: of this lightweight pool or welter waite pool, what division? Lightweight?

925
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: Blat way, Yeah, he's one fifty five. I'm not sure

926
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: I agree.

927
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 4: Now, what are you nervous of the striking that it

928
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: was still a little too raw?

929
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

930
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 8: Okay, Here is my basic concern, because.

931
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 4: First of all, you got to start with the default

932
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 4: point that you didn't think he would win.

933
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I thought that you didn't think he

934
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 2: would get takedowns.

935
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 5: I wasn't sure if he'd get takedowns, and I wasn't

936
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 5: sure if he would keep Yeah, physical this man, he

937
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 5: had physicals almost everybody. But I will say I'll look

938
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 5: at the numbers. So prior to yes Saturday's contest, Googolov

939
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 5: had a ninety three percent taking on defensive rate. Now

940
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: after this single fight, it's at seventy five percent. I mean,

941
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 5: he fucking damaged his stats in one fight. So I'll

942
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 5: say this on the good side, the wrestling was even.

943
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 5: I mean we've always known that, sorry, you can have

944
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 5: good wrestling. You can go back to the Bucket Chief fight,

945
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 5: which he lost, and still have a pretty cular sense

946
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 5: of that so that was good. Let me tell you

947
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 5: my major concern, and it was it wasn't true for

948
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 5: this fight, But I'm not sure I can give it

949
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 5: up yet, which is he is so physical and such

950
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 5: a good wrestler, and dude, he is just sticks to

951
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 5: you like glue. And I would also say his entries

952
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 5: into takedowns keeps him pretty safe, which is why he

953
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 5: doesn't get beat up on the way in or like

954
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 5: down blocked constantly.

955
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 4: His body kicks are legit or legit.

956
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 5: Here's the problem. On the ground, there's virtually no ground

957
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 5: and pound at least any in any kind of position

958
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 5: that's being contested.

959
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: Does being a submission threat make that not as much

960
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: of a weakness.

961
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 5: He's not a submission threat either, not much of one.

962
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 5: Here's here's here he established the threat of the choke

963
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 5: of too.

964
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 8: Those were not close. Those were not close. Let me

965
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 8: say something.

966
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 5: What I was worried about in this fight was that

967
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 5: sar Yukiin had certain points of the game on lock,

968
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 5: but the rest of it not so much. But the

969
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 5: parts he did have on lock would continue to elevate

970
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 5: him before he was ready. Now, certainly I was wrong

971
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 5: about this fight and the way it would go Miacolpa

972
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 5: I certainly recognized that seven takedowns of twenty one attempts

973
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 5: is you know, I mean that's nine and a half

974
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 5: minutes of.

975
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: Control time not being defeated since Woodley till it just

976
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 2: to be fair.

977
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 5: Fair enough, But BC my concern that he's going to

978
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 5: get a win like this and then they're going to

979
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 5: push him where When you look at his striking game,

980
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 5: his level changing was nice. The kicks were great, not

981
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 5: a ton of them landed through the course of the fight.

982
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 5: The boxing wasn't really there. He didn't take a lot

983
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 5: of damage. That's the good part too. But on the

984
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 5: ground that is where all of his offense really resides.

985
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 5: And there's not hardly any ground pound in any contested position.

986
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 5: So he had a previous fight where a guy would

987
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 5: actually go to his back and work from guard and

988
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: his ground upound there was hillacious, but in a contested

989
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,439
Speaker 5: situation it doesn't really exist. And yes, he had better

990
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 5: back control this time and didn't get reversed and end

991
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 5: of underneath. The one time he did get up underneath,

992
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 5: he quickly reversed it.

993
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: Like dude. That reversal from mount he had the first

994
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: was all man.

995
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 5: Unbelievable, but BC my central concern that he's going to

996
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 5: elevate himself.

997
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: Through the rankings. He's not there yet. I agree with

998
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: that because he's good enough to win on these other things.

999
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 5: Yep, he's only twenty six, Like he's only twenty six,

1000
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 5: Like he does it.

1001
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is this, just don't rush the matchmaking.

1002
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 2: That is my only Don't rush me. I've made that

1003
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: mistake before, and we have before in this spot. I

1004
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 2: agree he's not there yet. The striking is still raw

1005
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: and rudimentary, but it's passionate and aggressive, and this was

1006
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: a more matchup orientated situation where even though this mcgouloff

1007
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 2: is very technical and at times in the striking, especially

1008
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: with that right cross which just keeps going like stretch arms,

1009
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: stretch armstrong or something there, he was able to land that,

1010
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: but Sarayukin constantly could counter that with the aggression. I

1011
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 2: agree he wants, you know, he wants to be catapult

1012
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: right into the title picture again. If he fights Mahuchef tomorrow,

1013
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 2: he's still going to lose the same way. That's exactly.

1014
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 8: Why did you see anything that would change the way

1015
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 8: that the Gamera not really.

1016
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: This fight to me wasn't about is he ready to

1017
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 2: fight for the title next? This was about is what

1018
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: we saw the glimpses in those two close losses Machev

1019
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 2: and Gamera. We saw potential to be great. Can he

1020
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 2: stop the slide? Meaning there's fires that still can fight great,

1021
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: But don't get the nod. We needed to come out

1022
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 2: and win this fight cleanly. He did that. Okay, he

1023
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: did that. He didn't he didn't go backwards. He went forward.

1024
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: He just didn't go forward. I think to the level

1025
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: of like what he's saying on the mic is you know, hey,

1026
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: I want the champion, you know. I like that intention.

1027
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 2: That intention is what won him this fight to be fair,

1028
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: But Luke, you're right, he has to refine. Can it

1029
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: be done? He's still young enough? Yeah?

1030
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 5: Can every fight? I see new wrinkles, Like his back

1031
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 5: control was way better. There were times where he got

1032
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 5: the back and you actually saw this. I'd like to

1033
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 5: see him switch to the ssulo F hamstrings stretch. But

1034
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 5: there were times you'd get the back and you could

1035
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 5: see Ismgolov trying to shake him off.

1036
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 2: And what did he do.

1037
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 5: He actually placed his hand on top of the hand

1038
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 5: of ismagoulav so that they could keep is mcgolov there

1039
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 5: as well as his own position, Like little details like

1040
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 5: that tell me he's definitely working on stuff I have Listen.

1041
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,399
Speaker 5: His upside does not change for me, does not change.

1042
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 5: He's got championship potential written all over him too. But

1043
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 5: his skill set is still very lopsided. It is still

1044
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 5: very lopsided. And the part of which he is very

1045
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: good at does it, to me have enough of the

1046
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 5: requisite offense behind it to warrant a top five opponent.

1047
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: It looks like he's making it a priority to get

1048
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 2: more time at att Yes, so, which can only be

1049
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: can only be good on the idea of Okay, let's

1050
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 2: let's work on developing that ground and pound, because you're

1051
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,720
Speaker 2: you're almost there. You're almost there, You're at the doorstep

1052
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: of that. Now, let's work how to implement that striking wise.

1053
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll ever be there fully dynamic,

1054
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 2: but if he consistently works on that jab and he

1055
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: uses it as a weapon like he does, and at

1056
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 2: least has the threat of her right hand, those other

1057
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: areas are strong. Got to refine them, but they're strong.

1058
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: You just think about this seems to have the intangible

1059
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: backball like he's got.

1060
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 5: He's got grit again, doesn't take a lot of damage.

1061
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: I want to be very clear about that. That is

1062
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 5: hugely important for a kid at twenty six years of age. Dude,

1063
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 5: he's got the level of stickiness that a Habib does,

1064
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 5: where they just guys could not get this fucking guy

1065
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 5: off of him. But but the ground and pound from

1066
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 5: Habib is way more advanced, right, And of course who

1067
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 5: can be Habib? This is an impossible standard in many ways,

1068
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 5: but I think that Sar you can could get fucking.

1069
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 2: Close with some time. He could get close. The only

1070
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 2: one that ever put guilt, habiboy was guilt right to

1071
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: stand up to the promise to the parents and just

1072
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: be like, yep, I said it, so I'm never gonna

1073
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: fight again, you know right? That was it? You get

1074
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 2: my point?

1075
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 8: My point is simply that he passed this test far

1076
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 8: easier than I.

1077
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 2: Thought He could. Must be immaculate to be fair, Yes,

1078
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: just imagine the things that I who had a better

1079
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: night in the DMS Lionel Messi or this guy all right,

1080
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 2: probably mess She's like, yeah, I mean he won the

1081
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: World Cup, yeah, yea yeah yeah, And was I think

1082
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: he got.

1083
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 5: Did he get golden ball and golden boot? He might

1084
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 5: have gotten both, I can't remember, but in any case.

1085
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: Gold balls. I'd love to have that scenario. I will

1086
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:13,360
Speaker 2: say this.

1087
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 5: You know what's one of the most impressive things about

1088
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 5: this victory that it's very hard to appreciate.

1089
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: I really encourage folks.

1090
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 5: Maybe if you watch the show then you already know this,

1091
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 5: But if you are not super familiar with is mcgoolav

1092
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 5: prior to this contest, do me a solid and watch

1093
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 5: any of his previous UFC fights, because this was a

1094
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 5: poor showcase for him, right Like, if all you ever

1095
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 5: knew about Damirius mcgoolav was just what you got from

1096
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 5: this fight, you will have a very warped sense of

1097
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 5: his abilities. Go watch the Coute de Lasse fight and come.

1098
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: Back to me and then see how that was the

1099
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 2: split decision that I warned you, Jordy decision and the

1100
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: one he got wrong was Douglas Crosby.

1101
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 4: I read Chunk Mindenhall's feature from Fighting on.

1102
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 8: Is It not Insane?

1103
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: Bath Houses Together? Like this guy's dude.

1104
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 8: Doug Crosby's out of his rough stutz.

1105
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 2: Was hammered out Doug Crosby to Ario because in that feature,

1106
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, Doug Crosby has his own criteria of the rules, right,

1107
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 2: you know, and it's just damn. And then this guy's

1108
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,439
Speaker 2: like an old school cowboy, right yeah, basically the wrong kind.

1109
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, the super wrong kind. Anyway, what I'm trying to

1110
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 8: make is out on.

1111
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just give this mcgoulov a try on these

1112
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 5: other fights, and then if you rewatch this one, you'll

1113
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 5: see the most impressive thing to me about Saryukin did

1114
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 5: here was he made this mcgoulov look average.

1115
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: He is not this fight.

1116
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 5: Both the commentators were talking about it. Neither guy wanted,

1117
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 5: No one wanted to fight either guy. So these two

1118
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 5: just got paired together. And I want to point out something.

1119
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 5: This is this is Saryukiin's run to this point. BC Makachev,

1120
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 5: oam Davi Hamos, who was an ADCC gold medalist, Matt

1121
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 5: steam Rola Ravola, Kristo's Chiagos. That one he just ran

1122
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 5: through pretty easily. But then another very very good lightweight

1123
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 5: Joel Alvarez from Spain, then Mateo sh Gamrot and then

1124
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 5: Damarius mcgolov.

1125
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: Guy he bloodied Alvarez, where as Mcgoulov didn't. So like

1126
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: we we talked about this difference and experience coming. You

1127
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,720
Speaker 2: tried to argue that is mcgolov I had better experience,

1128
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: and people were like, yo, what's wrong with Luke. He's crazy? Well,

1129
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: now that's certainly not the case. Well it wasn't coming

1130
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: in either. I mean, this is an intervention right now.

1131
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: Well between no no.

1132
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 5: I think I relented in the end because the Makachev fight,

1133
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 5: if that didn't exist, I think that would change it.

1134
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 5: But having your UFC debut against Makachev, even in a

1135
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 5: losing effort, he performed really well.

1136
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 8: I think what I said on Friday was that put

1137
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 8: it over the edge.

1138
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 5: But all I'm trying to point out here is also

1139
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 5: what was that one, two, three, four, five, six, eight fights?

1140
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 5: Twenty six years old? Those are his eight fights. That's

1141
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 5: about as tough of a UFC entry as you're gonna see.

1142
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 5: That's about as tough as they get. Yeah, give it,

1143
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 5: give or take all, right, BC, let's go to point

1144
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 5: number three here. I believe Drew Dover is in need

1145
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 5: of some praise. Let's give it to him. I think

1146
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 5: he tied Dustin Poartier's lightweight record of most ko's in

1147
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 5: the division stopping Bobby Green BC? What did you make

1148
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 5: of Bobby Green by the way, piecing up old Drew

1149
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 5: Dover early in the fight before Dreudover just bit down

1150
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 5: on the mouthpiece and sent him to the land of

1151
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 5: wind and ghosts, which hardly anyone does. Bobby Green's got

1152
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 5: very good defense and good boxing, although he was pressed

1153
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 5: up against the fence. Here, talk to me, what did

1154
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 5: you learn about Drew Dober?

1155
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: You know, I told you coming in that this was

1156
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 2: going to be a war and that Drew Dober was

1157
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: going to win by knockout. I mean, are you ready

1158
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: to I mean I had a good run on this card, Luke. Yeah,

1159
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: I had a lot of feelings that would you like me.

1160
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 5: See, here's what I don't do when you do really

1161
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 5: poorly on the cards. I don't beat you up for it.

1162
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: I just let it.

1163
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 8: I go, I let it, I ignore it. But if

1164
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 8: you'd like, I can return the favor.

1165
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 4: No, I'm just trying to be real with the people.

1166
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 2: And no, here's what I thought would happen though this meaning, Look,

1167
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 2: Bobby Green is not easy to be in there against.

1168
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: You're going to get hit the style he puts out there,

1169
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: which is so risky, also allows him to beat people

1170
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: with the punch, and if they are not as tough,

1171
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: then that speed and that accuracy and that constant volume

1172
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: is going to get to you. Drew Dober, though, was

1173
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: willing riding a two fight knockout streak, looking to propel

1174
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 2: himself to the best we've ever seen, but still willing

1175
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: to take on huge chances. It was the perfect you know,

1176
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,399
Speaker 2: gunslinger against gun slinger. But when somebody's going to act

1177
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: as crazy and daring as Green, he's going to be

1178
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: open to be hit. And you give Drew Dover credit

1179
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: to be able to land that knockout, he had to

1180
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 2: be willing to take on the damage. And like it's

1181
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: like when you look at his stock, you're like, damn,

1182
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 2: he's a little too willing take on the damage. Maybe

1183
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: that's the way he feels, you know, and I'm Michael

1184
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: Chandler type way that that's the best way for him

1185
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:17,880
Speaker 2: to compete, to maximize himself. Either way, it created an

1186
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 2: opportunity for Bobby Green to get caught and credit for

1187
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 2: Dober to do that. Did I learn a lot? Know?

1188
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 4: These are two exciting fires that take risks and the one.

1189
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: I think it's a pretty nice win for Drew Dover.

1190
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: Oh it is for three in a row and third

1191
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 2: by knockout. And by the way, I mean, he flattened

1192
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 2: him with that shot, right. But in terms of you know,

1193
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: prediction coming in, I kind of saw this coming, Luke,

1194
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,720
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, he's he's he's the rising

1195
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 2: gunsling or word for Bobby Green. You know, he had

1196
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: his moment above water, meaning he puts some wins together

1197
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 2: and started looking really good.

1198
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 4: And we really were like, damn, you know on the

1199
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 4: right day, that style, with that daringness.

1200
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 2: Man, it's it's trouble. It was trouble in this fight,

1201
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: but that style could get you. That catches up with you. Luke,

1202
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you can't live can you

1203
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: live and die by that style? Hands down? Just contan.

1204
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna catch up Bobby Green style. Yeah.

1205
00:53:58,640 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: Which here's the thing.

1206
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 5: Bobby Green style relies on a little bit of trunk

1207
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 5: and head and shoulder movement. And what did you notice

1208
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 5: about this ko and then the last one that Dover had,

1209
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 5: both opponents were right up against the fence. It's like

1210
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 5: he took away that condition where Bobby Green has his

1211
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: best defense and he fucking floored him.

1212
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: I mean true, there was a great TV fighter. Dude,

1213
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 2: he's a great TV fighter. He's going to give a

1214
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 2: lot of high level guys problems by being so daring.

1215
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 2: But did you did you learn more about Drew Dober

1216
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of walking in the direction of contendership?

1217
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 5: Though a little a little?

1218
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: I think that.

1219
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 5: His ceiling should be calibrated up a little bit, which

1220
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 5: is to say, the fatal flaw that even though you

1221
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 5: picked him, but the fatal flaw that you do recognize

1222
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 5: that he has that give and take, that trade you're

1223
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 5: gonna make sometimes you're gonna come up short on it. Right,

1224
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 5: didn't happen this weekend, but eventually it probably will. That's

1225
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 5: just the name has happened to him exactly. It's the

1226
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 5: nature of the style, like it's just a matter of

1227
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 5: time before it happens again. But I will say the

1228
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 5: quality of guys he can beat on the good end

1229
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 5: I think is higher than I thought.

1230
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: Where I come from. You either smoke or you get smoke. Right,

1231
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: that guy's been vaporing for three fights in a row.

1232
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: It's like your white trash ass Luke. But no it's

1233
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: a good ass win. Who else, who else got your

1234
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: feeling some hold on? Well, we'll go to that part

1235
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: here in the thing.

1236
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 5: I just want to point out there was talks about

1237
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 5: potentially I think there were before Jared Gordon was selected

1238
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 5: as the opponent for Patty pimblet for the last UFC

1239
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 5: pay per view. I think even on this show, there

1240
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 5: was a little bit of discussion around Terrence McKenna and

1241
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 5: then Drew Dover as an opponent for Patty.

1242
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 8: How does Drew Dover versus Patty.

1243
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 2: Go spectacularly violent? I could see Patty wrestling him, That's

1244
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 2: the thing.

1245
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 4: I mean, that's the wild card to bring in look

1246
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 4: in Patty for the look Patty just had.

1247
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 2: The worst week possible. I mean, he just did so

1248
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: it's easy now to pile on. But Patty's got guile.

1249
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: Patty's willing to get into danger and still find ways

1250
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 2: to get around that. I think Patty could do some

1251
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 2: things on the ground to him, but that doesn't mean

1252
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 2: he wins the fight with that. If Drew Dover can

1253
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 2: make it an action fight, and sometimes Patty as well

1254
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: can be a little bit too willing to get in

1255
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 2: there and trade and take clean shots. Drew Dover could

1256
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: make him pay in the first round. That's certainly possible.

1257
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 2: So on the feet Dover smoke would he be favored?

1258
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: Because of the flat performance from Patty against Gordon and

1259
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 2: because of three wins in a row by knockout, Rudable

1260
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: might be favored in a virtual pick on Marrow.

1261
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 5: I mean slightly, just just compare the resumes. Does Patty

1262
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 5: Pemblet have a win as good as Bobby Green? No,

1263
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 5: he doesn't, So I would actually think that Drew would

1264
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 5: be favored. But I think it's interesting, Like it's a

1265
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 5: real striker versus grappler In that case, Y on the

1266
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 5: feet Dobra wins that one walking away on the ground.

1267
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 5: It could be quite interesting for Patty. Again, his fence

1268
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 5: wrestling and his back control. You can say whatever else

1269
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 5: you want about the rest of his game. Fence wrestling

1270
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 5: and back control is excellent. He's very good at those things.

1271
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 5: So that would be a lot of fun. All right,

1272
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 5: we see pitching it to you here on this card.

1273
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 5: Anything else stand out to you about what you liked?

1274
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 2: I liked a lot of it, Luke. There were some

1275
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 2: good finishes here, A few of them you'll see and

1276
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,120
Speaker 2: have you seen this shit? I mean, where's this part

1277
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 2: of Bruce Lee roy alex Cacera's ben. I mean that

1278
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 2: was just a spectacular finish there on Juicy Jay. But

1279
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: is that a revival type finish? I don't know.

1280
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 5: He is so hard to figure out. That one surprised

1281
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 5: me too.

1282
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 2: I was like, well, I mean, it's gorgeous, We'll see it,

1283
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 2: and it's beautiful.

1284
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 5: Ju is very talented, but he can be up and

1285
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 5: down the fact that he lost by itself is not

1286
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 5: surprising per se. But if you had asked me before

1287
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 5: the fight, I think I thought Erosa had better wins

1288
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 5: and was overall more talented.

1289
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 2: But he'll mix it up.

1290
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 5: The problem is he gets hit a little bit too

1291
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 5: much and that really really cost him here. Again going

1292
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 5: back to the defense, so you can doesn't get hit

1293
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 5: a lot, doesn't get hit very cleanly very often. Erosa does,

1294
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 5: and that can by the way, I want to point

1295
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 5: out something, Yeah, point out you can have lights out offense, right.

1296
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 5: Your offense is just fucking dealing. And I think Erosa

1297
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 5: is a very talented kid, don't get me wrong, but dude,

1298
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 5: defense wins championships, man, for sure, he wins championship but.

1299
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: You know he didn't even go to that kick coming though,

1300
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: didn't you because no, when have you seen that kick

1301
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: where somebody misses on a cross follows through on that

1302
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: miss but still lifts. I mean, there wasn't a lot

1303
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 2: of power on it. It was just perfectly playing. That

1304
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 2: happens all that's what it may happen in other various

1305
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: martial arts.

1306
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 5: No, no, no, this is how, this is exactly how

1307
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 5: I believe Kurt me Forlan have to go back and

1308
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 5: double check the UFC debut of Stephen Wonder where Thompson

1309
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 5: was against the guy but the name of Dan Stiget. Oh, yeah,

1310
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 5: and I believe he finished him, Yes, in a very

1311
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 5: similar way.

1312
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: Certainly, Alex Caceras, I wanted to shout up with the

1313
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: guy that camped out Casra's thought. Casseros, Yeah, Nate Manis wait,

1314
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 2: wait me Manus, Nate Maynis, that's it, Luke, let's go

1315
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: over to talk to me about this guy, because I

1316
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: hadn't known much about him. He was on the main

1317
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: card though Flyway Emir Albazi, Uh, he put it on.

1318
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: Alisandro Costa took him a while, he chipped away. He

1319
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 2: was landing heavy shots. Did you see that uppercut combination, Luke,

1320
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: is this a flyweight to watch moving forward? He's willing

1321
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: to take on damage. He's rock hard and tough as nails. Luke,

1322
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 2: this guy impressed me.

1323
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 8: Uh, you know what, I had slept on him a

1324
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 8: little bit.

1325
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 5: He had obviously had previous fights against Malcolm Gordon's August

1326
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 5: Zuma Gulav and you know that one went to a decision,

1327
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 5: although Zooma Gulov is very, very difficult. But then to

1328
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 5: your point, he beats Coos and then prior to that,

1329
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 5: he beat Francisco Figuredo, who I believe is the brother

1330
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 5: if I'm not mistaken of the other.

1331
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope you don't catch what I have, BD,

1332
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: That's what I have, You know what I mean? Yeah?

1333
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 2: You mean, look, I didn't know much about him. He

1334
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 2: looked about him either.

1335
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 5: The other one was the other kid whose name I

1336
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 5: just cannot pronounce. I watched the final on mute. You'll

1337
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 5: have to forgive me. Oh, by the way, how about

1338
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 5: DC's on Matthew Simmsberger beating Jake Matthews.

1339
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 2: He dropped Jake Matthews with the same punch in all

1340
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 2: three rounds. Is that a hashtag? Holy Hammer? Moment he

1341
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: could have been been we have Cody McKenzie vibes.

1342
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 8: In his look, Dude, Simmonsburger played football like he's the.

1343
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 2: Hair It just looks very like it looks like, you know,

1344
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 2: villain of a teen drama set. And you know what

1345
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: I mean.

1346
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 8: We didn't We didn't say there is Luke. Yeah, we

1347
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 8: didn't say that.

1348
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 2: Yes, they call him semi the Jedi.

1349
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 8: They what does you that we called the boxing fighter

1350
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 8: over the weekend.

1351
00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't say it on air, but I felt

1352
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 5: like say in it one of the guys who lost

1353
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 5: on the uh it was actually the main event of

1354
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 5: the premiums that we were calling. I wanted to say, like,

1355
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 5: you can tell he's gonna lose because he has an

1356
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 5: MMA fighter's haircut, like he had the like the kind

1357
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 5: of like there's a certain kind of haircut Simlsberger doesn't

1358
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,959
Speaker 5: know he doesn't have it anymore, but like the one.

1359
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 2: Where it's like half a mullet half kind of fade.

1360
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a full.

1361
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 2: Todd Grisham has it without the mulletpart. Well, yeah, the

1362
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 2: fade is each part is like okay on its own

1363
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: out of a fade.

1364
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 4: You were you were you were dogging on your own haircut.

1365
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 4: It was pretty good.

1366
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 5: It's all right, Yeah, I paid forty bucks, look young,

1367
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 5: you know, plus tip. How about this kid ran not

1368
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 5: fock written dinox. Dude, he fucked over Brian battle ground, right, he.

1369
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: Was just like whoa. I think it was two thirty

1370
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 2: twenty five score card.

1371
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he beat the bude Jesus out of

1372
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 5: poor Brian battle. I'm surprised he didn't get a bit

1373
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 5: of a finish there. And then the dude, how about

1374
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 5: the reversal in fortunes? First, i'd neber goa madeoff. He

1375
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 5: had his I think back taken, basically got out of it,

1376
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 5: wiggled out, and then through scramble, initiated his own I

1377
01:00:59,160 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 5: think it was a U.

1378
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: They say he's not related to Habiban, that we're we're

1379
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: they are. I think they are.

1380
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 5: They are related familiarly, but they're they're He's not part

1381
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 5: of the camp.

1382
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 2: Is that like Smith and Augustun or what like? Off?

1383
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

1384
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1385
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 5: I don't even know how common Gracie is in Brazil, Like,

1386
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 5: how common outside of that family? How common is the

1387
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 5: Gracie family or the name Gracie.

1388
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 2: I guess not that common dude. Shout out to Rafa

1389
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: Garcia for having his artery on his top of his head.

1390
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 5: Cut and he lost twenty percent of his blood.

1391
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 2: He bled for two hours straight in the back as

1392
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 2: they were trying to stop it. Lost twenty percent of

1393
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: his blood. Damn. I mean, are we at a point where, like,

1394
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 2: let me say it, like this, WWE Pro Wrestling they change.

1395
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 4: The mat during a night.

1396
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 2: If you go to a card, they'll change the mat

1397
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: like every couple of matches right between commercial breaks or whatever.

1398
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: Do you feel like we're at a point in twenty

1399
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 2: twenty two slash twenty three here. Sometimes UFC's on ABC,

1400
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: it's on ESPN where when somebody bleeds all over the

1401
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 2: mat like happened, that there should be some way they

1402
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: come in and put a new one down, Is there?

1403
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: Am?

1404
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 5: I just so, I don't know if you know this

1405
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 5: or not. They don't do this anymore to my knowledge.

1406
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 5: But for the first few Fox shows, especially the one

1407
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 5: with Junior Dos Santos and Kane the very first one,

1408
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 5: what they ended up doing was they would have a

1409
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 5: fight and let's say there was a lot of blood

1410
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 5: between commercials are between fights what they would end up doing.

1411
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 5: I think between fights what they end up doing is

1412
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 5: they would actually go and paint over the top of it.

1413
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 5: And what the fow esther Linn was telling me about it,

1414
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 5: because she was obviously cage side, and what she was

1415
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 5: saying was the smell was like really bad, in humane,

1416
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 5: and it created a certain level of potential stickiness and

1417
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 5: changes to the consistency of the mat.

1418
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 2: I don't think they do that anymore.

1419
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 5: This was back when it was like, Hey, if we

1420
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 5: show fist fights on national television, what's going to hap?

1421
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: Is that a soft take of me? To look at

1422
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 2: this gross pall of blood? And growing up I'd be like, yeah,

1423
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 2: just bleed, you know what I mean, come on, I'm

1424
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: a dirt hole. But like I mean, I mean, look

1425
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: at the carnage here. Then you've gotten so then you

1426
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 2: get taken down in the next fight, Luke, And you

1427
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: know that there's DNA all over in this day and

1428
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: age of high level disease.

1429
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 8: Cover of a Cannibal Corpse album.

1430
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really does. Maybe I should, Maybe I should

1431
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: tough enough. But I was surprised to see Mahashtate, who

1432
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 2: always looks like me shoutate on paper.

1433
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,959
Speaker 8: Always looks like me shtate on paper.

1434
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 2: He looks like he was coming on. But due rothwi

1435
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: Garcie as tough as ball, yes.

1436
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 5: Super tough as balls and to and also like how

1437
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 5: does it affect your cardio when you lose that much blood?

1438
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: As well?

1439
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 5: I remember one time Tim Kennedy had a really bad cut.

1440
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 5: I think it was maybe the Michael Bispan five maybe

1441
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 5: it was one of his Strikeforce fights, and they interviewed

1442
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 5: him afterwards and they were like, were you worried about

1443
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 5: all the blood you were losing? He's like, it's just blood,

1444
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 5: and I'm like, right, the thing that gives you life.

1445
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 2: Yes, that thing. That thing. I didn't want to close

1446
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: without mentioning Manel Copp who did the O'Malley crossover thing.

1447
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: But Luke, he is he coming on a flyway like

1448
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 2: he's he's been around before UFC and had the reputation.

1449
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 5: So he had a great reputation coming out of Japan

1450
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,480
Speaker 5: and then stumbled a little bit when he first got

1451
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 5: to UFC. And I think now you're seeing, like the

1452
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 5: real version what he's actually capable of doing.

1453
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 4: You beat up after market. Ian McCall real bad in

1454
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen.

1455
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: Remember that, yep, you sure?

1456
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 5: After market? Well pop Decito, Ian McCall. He had a

1457
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 5: lot of injuries. Man, he was a good fighter. Uh okay, BC,

1458
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 5: So let's get to this point number four. Here, the

1459
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 5: UFC's year is over. And then ay, by the way,

1460
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 5: there's still a couple ma and still forget Belle toor

1461
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 5: versus Rising will be on New Year's Eve. Also, Cage

1462
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 5: Warriors has an event. I believe someone else does too.

1463
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 5: So there's a little bit few more fights left. But

1464
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 5: the UFC's year is over.

1465
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 2: BC.

1466
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 8: How was the UFC's twenty twenty two?

1467
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 2: Maybe I I because I come from boxing, I'm more

1468
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: quick to like, I've actually heard some people complaining about

1469
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 2: this calendar year, but I'm more clicked to say, like,

1470
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 2: embrace what you have. This is a great year for

1471
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: the UFC in the sport of m A. I thought

1472
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 2: I was entertained consistently, the big matchups got made. The

1473
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 2: only thing I think that was lacking this calendar year

1474
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: was the consistency of not without UFC not trying of

1475
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 2: putting out the kind of crossover pay per views that

1476
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: continue to build and engage that mainstream audience. We didn't

1477
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: end up seeing Conor McGregor or John Jones fight when

1478
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,360
Speaker 2: we kind of expected it, So that's a big part

1479
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: of it. But look, you know, and you're gonna get injuries,

1480
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: You're gonna get all the things that happen. And I

1481
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 2: thought from a presentation standpoint, from a consistency, even on

1482
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 2: those in between fight night cards where we'll come on

1483
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 2: here and tell you the truth and be like, eh,

1484
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 2: not a great card, I still feel like they would overachieve.

1485
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,800
Speaker 2: And I was entertained start to finish. Not that there

1486
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 2: wasn't headlines that you can criticize with the UFC, and

1487
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 2: the fighter pay thing is still a looming thing, no

1488
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: question about it, as is Dana wide slap Dick League.

1489
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 2: But I would say, Luke, are you not entertained? This

1490
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: was a fun ass year. Do you feel like the

1491
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: promotion under this UFC era going in the right direction? Overall?

1492
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 4: We got what we deserved here coming from boxing, I'm like, yeah,

1493
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 4: this was funny.

1494
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: Shit.

1495
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 5: I think it is very fair to say this was

1496
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 5: not UFC's best year, but was it bad? Though it

1497
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,800
Speaker 5: was not bad, it was not a bad year, not

1498
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 5: by any stretch of the imagination. Let's do a little

1499
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 5: bit of it. I mean, here's what I think, Folks

1500
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 5: just fail to appreciate who may might be newer to

1501
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 5: the sport. If you started watching in the Connor Rousey era,

1502
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 5: I could understand how looking at twenty twenty two and

1503
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 5: be like, okay, but like where we're all like the

1504
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,560
Speaker 5: real big fights? Where was Jones Francis, Where was the

1505
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 5: return of Connor?

1506
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 2: Where was you name it? Where were these things? Yeah,

1507
01:06:02,920 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 2: they didn't happen.

1508
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 5: There wasn't any really major marquee, earth shattering Mma content

1509
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 5: this year.

1510
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 2: That's okay, But the consistent.

1511
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 5: Level of good to great, I would actually argue was

1512
01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 5: pretty high. Also pretty high.

1513
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 2: Two guys who at the time of losing were in

1514
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 2: the discussion for pound for palm best Kamara Usman and

1515
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 2: Israel Atisania both lost via fifth round upset Ko right,

1516
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like damn right, you.

1517
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 5: Know, right, And so you have to understand that, like, uh,

1518
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 5: the Marque event was missing, the Marquee events were missing. Okay,

1519
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 5: fair enough, wasn't its best year. But what you also

1520
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 5: understand is like trying to compare this sport to what

1521
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 5: it was and let's say two thousand and two is impossible.

1522
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 5: I did see folks being like, because this is the

1523
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 5: worst year in UFC history. I'm like, folks, this is

1524
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 5: so much better than it used to be. You have

1525
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,000
Speaker 5: no idea how spoiled you are. Let me point out

1526
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 5: just two recent bad years. Remember twenty twelve, every fight

1527
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 5: got canceled. That was just like week to week pretty

1528
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 5: fourteen as well, we had the Dan Hendo John Jones

1529
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 5: fallout in twenty twelve.

1530
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 2: That year sucked. You know what also suck twenty seventeen,

1531
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: the year after the company sold, and suddenly Rousi and

1532
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: Lesnar and Connor are not walking through that door and

1533
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 2: they're struggling to find anyone to be a pay per

1534
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: review star.

1535
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 4: Those years were kind of touching. Go this is pretty

1536
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 4: damn good year.

1537
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 2: Stright finished.

1538
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 5: So here's two thousand and two. This event took place

1539
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 5: in January of two thousand and two. It was UFC

1540
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 5: what numbers is thirty five? I believe your main card

1541
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 5: Jens Polver versus Bjpenn, which is legitimately a good fight,

1542
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 5: Riga Rodriguez versus Jeff Monson. I don't mind that Marle

1543
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 5: was to Monte the most underrated UFC Champion of all time,

1544
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 5: Dave Manet Chuckle Deel versus Amarsulo Weev and then Andre

1545
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,080
Speaker 5: Seminov versus Hakkardo al Meda.

1546
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: So that was in January.

1547
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:40,680
Speaker 5: Your next event didn't take place till fucking March, right,

1548
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,280
Speaker 5: so you missed all of February, all the rest of January,

1549
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 5: most of the rest of March. Josh Barnett versus could

1550
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 5: toart Us pretty great, his Oo versus Arlovski. That was

1551
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 5: a great fight. Hughes versus Hayatos Sokka Rye. Folks will

1552
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:52,080
Speaker 5: remember that.

1553
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 2: Why are you going back twenty years? I don't get

1554
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: I'm just.

1555
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 5: Trying to point out these are fine cards, but you

1556
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 5: get something either better than this or something pretty close

1557
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 5: to it regularly now, almost every week. How about the

1558
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,240
Speaker 5: next one, so you'll see thirty seven?

1559
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:07,720
Speaker 2: When was that?

1560
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 8: That was in May? So you missed all of April.

1561
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 5: Marilla Bustamante versus Matt Linland Rodriguez versus yoshik Osaka.

1562
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: How about this?

1563
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,879
Speaker 5: Your third fight on the car was Bjpen versus Paul Creighton.

1564
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 5: Show of hands. Who knows who Paul Creyton is? Let's

1565
01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 5: do one more? Thirty seven and a half. That was

1566
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 5: the weird fight that was on Fox UFC thirty eight.

1567
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 5: This was in July right of two thousand and two.

1568
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 5: This was the Hughes Newton fight, which is historic.

1569
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 4: Oh you're saying that was a bad year.

1570
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 8: I'm saying this was a fine year. Oh listen to me.

1571
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 2: This was a fine year for what it was.

1572
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,640
Speaker 5: But number one, look how many more events there are.

1573
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 5: Look how many more fights there are per card, and

1574
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,599
Speaker 5: look at the overall depth of divisions. You just get

1575
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 5: this plus ten x. This as just a basic as

1576
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 5: a baseline of content. Yes, you didn't get the extra

1577
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 5: extra extra stuff, but you got all of this times

1578
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 5: a billion just waking up and then punching on your TVs. Why,

1579
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 5: by the way, you get to pay for all of

1580
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 5: this and now you have you just use ESPN Plus.

1581
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 5: You get the vast majority of MMA content out for free,

1582
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 5: but for a pretty fairly modest price, like this is

1583
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 5: so much better than it used to be by a

1584
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 5: million miles.

1585
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 2: We will have an award show of some kind before

1586
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 2: the new year, but this type of question won't be

1587
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 2: on that. But I always think it's an interesting award

1588
01:09:23,280 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 2: that people forgot the idea of best win of twenty

1589
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: twenty two, which is a combination of steaks miss mixed

1590
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: with performance. I'm going to give you three options. Are

1591
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 2: you ready? Francis and Ganu defeats Cyril Ghan to defend

1592
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 2: the heavyweight championship In Unify It, Amanda Newness comes back

1593
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: from stoppage loss and out points Juliana Pana or what

1594
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 2: was my third option? What was my third option? Is

1595
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 2: it Islam Markatshev? No, No, it wasn't. Leonda was versus

1596
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 2: Kamara Ooz mont iSER either. I forgot what my third

1597
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: one was? The whole point, Luke is what was the

1598
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 2: best win of the calendar year? Islam Makotchev beating Charles Olvera.

1599
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 5: Charles Lavera was coming in one of the hottest streaks

1600
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 5: you've ever seen in Makachev.

1601
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 2: Oh, I was gonna sa Volkanovski holloway because he beat

1602
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: that ass. Okay, that's what I was going to offer.

1603
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,560
Speaker 2: That's that's a close. But they just got in my

1604
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 2: ear and they're like Leona Edwards head kicking use pot

1605
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: what I mean?

1606
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 5: Like this year had plenty of.

1607
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: I asked that question to show you. We just named

1608
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 2: five that could have been best win of the year,

1609
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean do that, and godda ones like Paul bonyan

1610
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: man wild.

1611
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 5: It's great like so so again, not the highest of

1612
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 5: the highest, fair enough, but plenty of pretty good, plenty

1613
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 5: of very good, and lots of relatively standard stuff that

1614
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 5: I'm And also, like, dude, you have to pay for

1615
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 5: stuff before you had to find like streams from Japan

1616
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 5: at two in the morning, and like it was really

1617
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 5: hard to get dude on your fucking phone. You can

1618
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 5: just watch anything you want in virtually any location. It

1619
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 5: is that there has and this is a true statement.

1620
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 5: There has never been in the history of humanity, unless

1621
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 5: you want to see people fed to lions or whatever.

1622
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 5: But in the modern life, right since the eighteen hundreds,

1623
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 5: there has never been a better time to be a

1624
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 5: combat sports fan ever. Ever, maybe you missed certain eras

1625
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 5: we were not around for Ali's era, fair enough, Maybe

1626
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 5: you missed the Marvin Haglers of the world.

1627
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 8: Okay, that's a loss.

1628
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 5: But in terms of the amount you get, how easily

1629
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 5: delivered it is, and in general how high the quality is,

1630
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 5: especially on the MMA side, you are spoiled. You want

1631
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 5: to watch pro jiu jitsu, easy, want to watch pro

1632
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 5: kickboxing easy.

1633
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: Want to watch pro boxing across the world?

1634
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 5: Easy? MMA easy? Like this is the golden age of fandom.

1635
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 5: Embrace it and enjoy it. And I don't know what

1636
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,679
Speaker 5: else to say right in terms.

1637
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 2: Of UFC social headlines meaning the glad you brought that

1638
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 2: up fighter pay movement, Dana's ongoing feud with the MMA media,

1639
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 2: Did we learn anything new this year or is it

1640
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 2: just the continuing themes of recent years repeated them.

1641
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 5: I will say that the UFC's relationship with ESPN casts

1642
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 5: new light on it and draws both more eyeballs to

1643
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 5: it but also greater scrutiny, perhaps not enough scrutney, considering

1644
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,720
Speaker 5: every UFC fighter and their brother appears to be going

1645
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 5: to do business with Ramzan Cadirov. But that aside the

1646
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 5: betting stuff, which is a new frontier for everyone.

1647
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: The biggest story this year, is it true to say

1648
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: the biggest story in the UFC this year is the

1649
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 2: James Cross.

1650
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 5: Potentially we have to see what the fallout is, but

1651
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 5: potentially it's on table. And also what I will say

1652
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 5: is going back to like UFC twoady with the Dilshaw shoulder,

1653
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 5: but not just damn like everyone Derek Minn or whatever

1654
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 5: U and even just a standard scenario where a guy

1655
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 5: is concealing an injury from the commission. Like, no, not

1656
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 5: trying to be bad about it, but that is going

1657
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 5: to be a problem that they're going to have to confront.

1658
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 5: That is a serious situation going forward. By the way,

1659
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 5: you still cannot bet on UFC fights in Ontario, Canada,

1660
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 5: the entire province.

1661
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 2: Fifteen million people. You think that's killing Bronston or he's

1662
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 2: just selling records on the side, He's fine. I mean,

1663
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: he's just selling records out of the trunk of his

1664
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 2: car at this point. But I believed in his upset

1665
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 2: bit against Ariel. But for the thirteenth straight year, that

1666
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 2: motherfucker dropped the hammer. Okay, yeah, Ariels, just like we're

1667
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 2: giving this away today. Here we are given another way today.

1668
01:12:58,680 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 2: It should be fun.

1669
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 5: So I think that's a problem. The fighter pay one,

1670
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 5: I don't think meaningfully changed a whole lot this year.

1671
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 5: Maybe next year you'll see some movement the the wheels

1672
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 5: of justice.

1673
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: Scribe to see you even got no resigns, that's still

1674
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: up in there. I did not think that would be

1675
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: up in the year. Still, even though I said we.

1676
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 5: Didn't talk about this Nate Diaz and doing what he

1677
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 5: did in twenty twenty two and what that sets up

1678
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 5: for twenty twenty three.

1679
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 2: MMA karma just came back to give us that. Yeah,

1680
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 2: he didn't have to get killed by Hamza and he

1681
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: could Tony and walk away.

1682
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 8: So this is what I mean, like, this was a

1683
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 8: terrible year for UFC too.

1684
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: No it wasn't. No, it wasn't.

1685
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,880
Speaker 5: There was some real challenges, I mean, especially with the

1686
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 5: James Cross think that's a real challenge that they're going

1687
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 5: to have to figure out and how it dovetails with

1688
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:40,360
Speaker 5: fighters concealing injuries and everything else. But in general, I

1689
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 5: would give this year for UFC seven and a half eight.

1690
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got ten eight damn right, I will you know,

1691
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 2: good year for Contender Series too. I thought that was

1692
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: the times I jumped in and out was very and.

1693
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 5: And also the road to UFC stuff out of Asia

1694
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 5: which isn't getting a big play. But will I think

1695
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 5: will bear fruit down the line that.

1696
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Look, the uf he does put out some

1697
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 2: good digital properties, look like embedded or you know, Dana

1698
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 2: White's Contender series, But do they win Best MMA Programming? No,

1699
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 2: they don't. We do. Uh you see.

1700
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 5: Also, I will say this, It is fair to say

1701
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 5: though that the amount of like the signal to noise

1702
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 5: ratio with UFC has changed.

1703
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 2: I think that's why fans might be complaining of it.

1704
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 5: In other words, there's a lot of stuff that we

1705
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 5: can look at in our world and be like, oh,

1706
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 5: this was really high quality.

1707
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 8: And I think that's true. I stand by the argument.

1708
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 5: But the amount of stuff that UFC puts out between

1709
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 5: Contender Series and Rota UFC and everything else, you know,

1710
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 5: with guys on at the bottom of cards, there's a

1711
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 5: lot of fights that are kind of nubs, that are

1712
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 5: that the fans are not thrilled about.

1713
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 8: I think that's also partly.

1714
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,160
Speaker 2: I could ask for something, it'd be more fat heavyweight fights,

1715
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: so like if they.

1716
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 5: Could really corner the mark only if Ben Parrish is

1717
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 5: like knuckling someone into dust.

1718
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 2: Other than that, I don't care that upset Ben Parish

1719
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,640
Speaker 2: had that time. He he I G.

1720
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, fucking man, Big Tuna gets all the gets all

1721
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 5: the respect.

1722
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,679
Speaker 2: You know, Big Tuna's boys with Bryce Mitchell and Arkansas.

1723
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 2: Imagine if we got the MK cams when we went

1724
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 2: and hung out in Bryce's trailer in the middle of

1725
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 2: his far we didn't talk about this.

1726
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 5: People were giving Bright shit for saying like he should

1727
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 5: have taken the fight because he got fucked.

1728
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 2: Up off the flu. Have you had the flu this year? No, bro,

1729
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 2: my kid got it. She give it to me.

1730
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 5: Dude, it the flu going around right now. I mean,

1731
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 5: you'll be all right, but like it's gonna whip your

1732
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 5: ass while you get it, you know what I mean.

1733
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 2: A lot of people from the wedding I went to

1734
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 2: got got caught up in some of that. So you

1735
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 2: got the flu, they got the COVID, but not me.

1736
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 2: They got the VID. Yeah, didn't get the VID. I'm

1737
01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 2: a multi time VID survivor, so I just you know,

1738
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 2: Aaron Blanchefield the VID.

1739
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 4: I was like, whole bloody you know.

1740
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 3: What I mean.

1741
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's amazing. Anyway, I was like, I was sympathetic

1742
01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 2: to that, Like, dude, the flu was like, you'll be fine.

1743
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: He win her one fought four world title with the

1744
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 2: staff infection, Okay, yeah, growing legion on his chest.

1745
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, not wisely, not tough. He is all right, last

1746
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 5: but not least. And I'm actually like crazy excited to

1747
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 5: talk about this.

1748
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 2: The Dune remake, the sequel I'm also excited to talk

1749
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 2: about that, but that's not what're I talk about right here, Mma, fans,

1750
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:57,679
Speaker 2: let me give you a name.

1751
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,759
Speaker 5: Okay, ready, here we go, Frank Mark. You should remember

1752
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 5: that name. And no he's not bal Muhammed, but you

1753
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 5: should remember it. Frank Martin. I mean, he out classed

1754
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 5: Michelle Rivera. And this was a fight that virtually every

1755
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,560
Speaker 5: observer in the boxing world was saying was roughly a

1756
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty split, like these guys were well matched. Well,

1757
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 5: they were well matched on paper, but they were not

1758
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 5: well matched in reality. Frank Martin beat the shit out

1759
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 5: of him in a twelve round main event, dropping him

1760
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 5: in the seventh. I don't know if he lost a round.

1761
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 5: I think one of the judges gave him every.

1762
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 2: Single gave one round to Rivera.

1763
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,960
Speaker 8: Who did Steve Farhod Farhood? I think they're the fifth

1764
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 8: or something like that.

1765
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 2: BC.

1766
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 8: How close is Frank Martin ready for the top at

1767
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 8: one thirty five?

1768
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 2: I can't believe. But like, right frickin' right now, right now, Look,

1769
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 2: you use a great word to describe this type of

1770
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: one sided victory. Auditing. He absolutely audited Michelle Rivera's style.

1771
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: Some of the limitations. When we said Rivera comes in

1772
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 2: when he's able to leave the dance boy, does he

1773
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: have options? Is he in control? But can he adapt?

1774
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 2: Can he find another gear? Can he go to a

1775
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 2: next level? Frank Martin, shut that shit down and jump

1776
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 2: through your screen. Look this as somebody that right now

1777
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 2: is a legitimate threat to everybody in the one hundred

1778
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 2: and thirty five pound division. You could sell that's just

1779
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,080
Speaker 2: one win style of the pendant. No, he took on

1780
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: an unbeaten guy with more experience than him at the

1781
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,880
Speaker 2: highest level, who's been doing things to people. But it

1782
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 2: wasn't just the leap, like I tweeted this, It's not

1783
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 2: just that he made the leap from a match making sense.

1784
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 2: Frank Martin put away all of those deficiencies that we

1785
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 2: had seen on tape at times in his growth process.

1786
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 2: Oh man, is he stubborn on the inside offensively, but

1787
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: he takes he welcomes a lot of damage to get inside. No,

1788
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 2: not on this fight. He made the leap in terms

1789
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 2: of rounding out his game, which shows you the decision

1790
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: he made within the past what was like a year

1791
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 2: and a half to move full time to Dallas to

1792
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 2: come under the tutelage of Derek James, the hottest trainer

1793
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 2: of the moment, to go arm in arm with Jamel

1794
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 2: Charlow and his own promoter, Aero Spence Junior in that tight,

1795
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: intimate stable of just a fighters. That has helped. Obviously,

1796
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 2: Frank Martin has to be a dog, Obviously he has

1797
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 2: to be willing. But Luke, he closed up the holes

1798
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: in his game, dominated this fight with footwork, with defense.

1799
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: Obviously you can look at the replays and see how

1800
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 2: he set up his shots, but the fact that he

1801
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:18,679
Speaker 2: was able to close any avenue of success for Rivera.

1802
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 2: He put Rivera in the space where the only chance

1803
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 2: he had was to try to walk down and welcome

1804
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 2: a lot of danger and try to land that red cross.

1805
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: And he just didn't have the setups to do anything

1806
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 2: to get over the top of Martin. I mean, Luke,

1807
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 2: it was. It's crazy. The were so even on paper,

1808
01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 2: they're both unbeaten, they were both seemed ready to make

1809
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 2: a big push. But I thought this was going to

1810
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 2: be about which one of these two comes out of

1811
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: here with the well earned win, that is, you know,

1812
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: ready to make a charge. No, it's right frickin' now,

1813
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 2: Frank Martin just showed you that he's a threat. He

1814
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,400
Speaker 2: used names like Dravonte Davis, Devin Hainey afterwards. He is

1815
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 2: a threat to these guys, which would be a fun fight,

1816
01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: but he is a threat to these guys because of

1817
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 2: the technique and the way he's been able to lean

1818
01:18:58,120 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 2: on that Luke. I thought he was going to lean

1819
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 2: more on the offense and the risk taking to try

1820
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 2: to fight Rivera. That may have worked right Rivera, you

1821
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: got to pressure him, but he never stopped being fully

1822
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 2: responsible on the other end. Was this like pitching a

1823
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 2: no hitter? It was almost perfect.

1824
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 5: I was blown away. I was completely blown away.

1825
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 2: Let me tell you what.

1826
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,640
Speaker 5: As a predominant MMA fan, my favorite kind of boxers

1827
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 5: are the guys who are very slick but also have

1828
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 5: good punching power.

1829
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 2: That is Frank Martin.

1830
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 5: His footwork in this fight was impeccable. Impeccable. Watch Frank

1831
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 5: Martin throw punches. He is never off balance and he

1832
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 5: always had when he wanted it anyway. The dominant angle,

1833
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 5: his pivoting, his return to center, his ring craft, his

1834
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 5: ring generalship was out of control. I couldn't believe it.

1835
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 5: Let me say this, BC, you saw this in the

1836
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,719
Speaker 5: Romero Dono fight, and you saw it here too. Frank

1837
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 5: Martin might have the best pull too counter in the game.

1838
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 5: So South Paul versus Orthodox. So you're standing this way

1839
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 5: open stance.

1840
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 2: He baits all.

1841
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 5: We talked about it on the broadcast that we did,

1842
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 5: how he is going to get through the jat It

1843
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 5: turns out he did a lot of lead hand fighting

1844
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:11,600
Speaker 5: to get rid of it. He would then bait a

1845
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 5: right hand from Rivera, slip it, and then as Rivera's

1846
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 5: coming over, he would fucking drive a monster shot to

1847
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,679
Speaker 5: That's that's what actually dropped him in the seventh place.

1848
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 2: Then have you seen this shit? Just a beautiful dude.

1849
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: He is so sharp, he is so precise, He's athletic.

1850
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 5: Through twelve rounds, his mouth was closed, he was breathing

1851
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 5: through his nose the entire time.

1852
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 2: He did take a couple of punches here and there.

1853
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 2: Rivera was trying as best he could, by the way,

1854
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 2: got the dog in him.

1855
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 5: Luke, by the way, al Bernstein and Mares kind of

1856
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 5: killing Rivera on the broadcast, by the way, with justifiable reason.

1857
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,600
Speaker 5: But you know, he was getting heavily criticized. But at

1858
01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:49,560
Speaker 5: the same time and the event. They eventually did this

1859
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 5: at the end, which I really appreciated. It's like, dude,

1860
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 5: Frank Martin made him look bad. Frank Martin outclassed this dude.

1861
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 5: So let me give you two names that I think

1862
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 5: would be interesting for Frank Martin to fight.

1863
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:01,160
Speaker 2: Two names.

1864
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 5: Then what you think Roly Romero? He'sat cruise both both.

1865
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, we can we can laugh

1866
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 2: at Roly Romero's ridiculously weird charismatic.

1867
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 8: Even Gervant told me he could thump that.

1868
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 2: I that was so revealing in your interview with Jeron

1869
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 2: and Davis, which you can watch on YouTube dot com

1870
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 2: Slash Morning Combat, where he wasn't like, you know, you

1871
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 2: would expect him to clown on Roly. There's a lot

1872
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 2: of shit talk between them leading into their fight being canceled,

1873
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 2: and then they did it, and you know, Geronte comically

1874
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 2: knocked him out on you know, setting him up beautifully

1875
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 2: using Roi's aggressive against him. But yet was completely just like, no, man,

1876
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 2: he can thump and I had to be on my

1877
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 2: game and I knew it. That's the thing about Roly Romero.

1878
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 2: I think he is the best personality in this game.

1879
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: He's out of control get He is infectious, he's hilarious.

1880
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 2: He's both ironically fund on ironically.

1881
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 5: This is not just true in boxing, this is true

1882
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 5: in your life. You love weirdos, you love weirdos.

1883
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 2: He's my kind of weird He's he's he's the Jake

1884
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 2: von Amstdeam with boxing Romero. I'll tell you that what No,

1885
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 2: but Roly is a tough matchup that that and of

1886
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,759
Speaker 2: course he saw Cruz with that pressure.

1887
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 4: Dude, Let's just give Frank Martin credit.

1888
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 2: He made the leap he is in this conversation, and

1889
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,200
Speaker 2: I gotta give credit to Herman Caseto, who's the trainer

1890
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 2: of Michelle Rivera on heralded ones. I mean, he was

1891
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 2: updating him on the score. And finally he's just like, dude,

1892
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,760
Speaker 2: you gotta fucking go after this, like you we need

1893
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: a knockout.

1894
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 4: I don't think that's in Rivera.

1895
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: And that was part of my criticism coming in Luke,

1896
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 2: where he has to be in control of the terms

1897
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 2: and when he does, you lose. When you can get

1898
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 2: him off of that, I know you can just as

1899
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 2: quickly argue back, what was that fight Joel Alvarez? Is

1900
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 2: that the opponent not No Fernandez when when Rivera was

1901
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 2: getting hurt by a big puncher, but then he rallied Knock,

1902
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 2: which was a very good fighter by the way. That

1903
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 2: showed that rallying skill, but against this elite guy at

1904
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 2: level of traps. Do the traps? He's sayting, man, I

1905
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 2: mean like that broadcast made it all about Derek James

1906
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,840
Speaker 2: like they should have, and that feature was great, But

1907
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,120
Speaker 2: it's it's sometimes it's just perfect timing when it's the

1908
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 2: right teacher and the right student.

1909
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 4: Dude, Frank Martin is the right student.

1910
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 2: He is all in right now. You do not see

1911
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,519
Speaker 2: fighters pick up the sport for the first time at

1912
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: age eighteen and then at twenty seven. Look this good.

1913
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: Damn he's sharp.

1914
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,560
Speaker 5: And but it's funny too because, by the way, I

1915
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 5: don't know if you heard it on it, I didn't

1916
01:23:08,640 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 5: hear Felix to Haesu's translated, there was a one point

1917
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 5: where his corner was looking at Rivera and being like,

1918
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 5: it's time to kill or be killed.

1919
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: That's exactly the words that they use. Yeah, I just

1920
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: kind of you say killer, be kill?

1921
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 4: Well, I said, just time to fucking go, like it's

1922
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:20,599
Speaker 4: time to Okay, Well.

1923
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 8: They use those words in particular.

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Speaker 5: Also on the other side, Derek James is hilarious, Like, dude,

1925
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Speaker 5: Frank Martin was like, he was looking excellent in this fight,

1926
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Speaker 5: and every round Derek James.

1927
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:31,679
Speaker 2: Is like, what are you doing?

1928
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Speaker 3: Do this?

1929
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Speaker 7: Do this?

1930
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Speaker 2: But you can see I told you to do that.

1931
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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. He demands a certain level of excellence from

1932
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Speaker 5: these guys. Yes, he because that's who he is, and

1933
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Speaker 5: because he knows these guys can deliver Holy shit. Frank

1934
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Speaker 5: Martin delivered on Saturday night at the Cosmo.

1935
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Speaker 2: Wow, what a performance. I think the best thing Derek James,

1936
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Speaker 2: as the hot trainer of the moment, is doing right

1937
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: now is purposely limiting his stable. He basically said, look like,

1938
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: you can't give all your time to more than like

1939
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: three fighters. At the time, that was always the thing

1940
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 2: that Freddie roach did wrong. Luke. Remember at the peak

1941
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 2: of Manny Paccio's breakthrough crossover pay per view success was Roachie, who.

1942
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 8: Was Mannupacio's peak, not commercially as a fighter.

1943
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: Probably that the air of the Ricky hatt and De

1944
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 2: la Hoya fights. So two thousand and seven, two thousand

1945
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 2: and eight, now you could there's an argument in there

1946
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 2: to say, well, his lower weight class peak in the

1947
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 2: second Marqus fight was a couple years earlier, right, but

1948
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 2: when he moved up to forty and then forty seven,

1949
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 2: that window when he was just like, oh my god,

1950
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,879
Speaker 2: this guy you know, so you know, Roach becomes a celebrity.

1951
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 2: HBO did that reality series on him, but he just

1952
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 2: started taking in all the big names left and right,

1953
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: plus young fighters, and you would have people like American

1954
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 2: after the fact leave him and just kind of be like,

1955
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:36,679
Speaker 2: you know, I need the one on one attention. James

1956
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 2: is keeping it tight. But what that allows for somebody

1957
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 2: like Frank Martin to be around those guys is dude,

1958
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 2: that is going to raise every part of your game.

1959
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 2: When you're just working with majority. I mean, he's bringing

1960
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,200
Speaker 2: another sparring partners, but you're you're getting to see how

1961
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 2: these champions because Jamel Charlo Andell Spence aren't regular fighters, right,

1962
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,280
Speaker 2: they're super elites, and they're made up with with such

1963
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 2: a high level of drive and focus that that's always

1964
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Speaker 2: going it's only gonna take what frame Mark Martin does

1965
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 2: and bring it up to another level. He has to

1966
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 2: also be as physically good and as tough. He seems

1967
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: to be the real deal, Luke. This was you know,

1968
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 2: this was as this one as well as it could

1969
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Speaker 2: have gone short of a knockout for Frank Martin, I mean,

1970
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Speaker 2: just a decimation. It was fun to see comes Saturday

1971
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Speaker 2: night there in Vegas. I like that arena, by the way,

1972
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: that's a smaller one. The Cosmo Top Rank has done

1973
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 2: some shows there.

1974
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I've only seen a couple of different

1975
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 8: shows there.

1976
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 4: Colbert lost there in January.

1977
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Speaker 2: They's right. I'm actually starting to warm up to it

1978
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,000
Speaker 2: a little bit as well. I mean, you know, it's funny.

1979
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Speaker 5: Back in the eighties, I remember Caesar's as being like

1980
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 5: the place de la Hoya had huge fights at season.

1981
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, outdoors in the park.

1982
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,879
Speaker 5: Outdoors I kind of miss because everything is t mobile MGM.

1983
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:39,680
Speaker 5: Mandalay used to have a bigger profile. I like other

1984
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 5: even if it's a small venue. I just like mixing

1985
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,639
Speaker 5: it up a little bit inside the Vegas Where.

1986
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Speaker 10: Will you be?

1987
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Speaker 2: January twenty eighth, inside the Mandalay Bay on showtime when

1988
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 2: Jamel Charlote defends all four titles against not Braan coastin

1989
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 2: against Tim Zoo on being Tim Zoo.

1990
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Speaker 5: I hope that I have a very nice place on

1991
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:59,040
Speaker 5: the floor showtime, but can't guarantee it, can't guarantee you yeah,

1992
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 5: uh okay, see I don't have any of them in

1993
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 5: front of me. But let's get to it's time for

1994
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 5: when the donks ask us questions, by the way, they

1995
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 5: can do on Twitter.

1996
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Speaker 2: Oh don't you want to talk about hammers first? Or no, no,

1997
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Speaker 2: I don't have the thing. Oh well, Luke, I'll let

1998
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 2: you know that we're getting closer to the end of

1999
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 2: the month. You know what that means because we tell

2000
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Speaker 2: They have partnered with us to recognize the up and

2003
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Speaker 2: coming names who are breaking through and boxing mixed martial arts. Hey,

2004
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Speaker 2: anywhere in the combat world. You're helping us get there.

2005
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:29,560
Speaker 2: It's called the Hammer of the Month, brought to you

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2008
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 2: But Luke, you know what else can we say? Use

2009
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Speaker 2: the hashtag Holy Hammer Hammer the Month at money Line

2010
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,000
Speaker 2: on Twitter, at money Lion Inc. On Instagram. People have

2011
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,839
Speaker 2: been tagging us Luke each time we get another breakthrough

2012
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:49,840
Speaker 2: finish or somebody jumping through the screen. Aaron Blanchefield won

2013
01:26:49,880 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 2: it last month. There is a damn, it's a crowded month.

2014
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 2: This week this month you got the leads a, you

2015
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 2: got so many of them living.

2016
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:58,680
Speaker 5: There's a but who from this past weekend of two. Well,

2017
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,519
Speaker 5: Frank Martin was in the main event, so that doesn't count.

2018
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 2: How about that that Manny PACs boy in the open

2019
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,000
Speaker 2: lobby astrolobby o coming. I mean, he's upsetting people just

2020
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 2: he's kind of dude. There's some I mean, look, sometimes

2021
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,599
Speaker 2: we stereotype fighters from certain cultures based on their style

2022
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 2: or intentions.

2023
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 4: Dude, the fighters that come up from the Philippines go

2024
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 4: after Yeah.

2025
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Speaker 8: They there there there. As we said in the Marine

2026
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:23,080
Speaker 8: corpsy're as hard as what.

2027
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think John Real Casameroo think Paki, I think

2028
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,680
Speaker 2: you know that's that's great to see. But people can

2029
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 2: have their say on on social media. Look, I mean

2030
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,280
Speaker 2: look on the UFC card, it was up and down.

2031
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 2: Who you saw that You could give it to Alex

2032
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,439
Speaker 2: Cassarus you could yeah, actually you know what he could

2033
01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 2: be strong performance. There's a lot of them you could pick.

2034
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: So you got the DMS from dongs you're ready? I don't?

2035
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: I do you do? How about I read them? Look? Yeah,

2036
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,479
Speaker 2: we put out posts on Sunday night on on Instagram

2037
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 2: and sometimes on Twitter now to to solicit your questions. Monday,

2038
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: it's your your time here. It's called d ms from dogs.

2039
01:27:56,920 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 2: We've got more mail from male viewers and few wives

2040
01:28:00,600 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: who watch. Thank you, and if actually, Luke, to be honest,

2041
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 2: we are building a slow, small army of you know,

2042
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 2: I don't want to say single female listeners, but people

2043
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: that weren't dragged into this by their man, right, people

2044
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 2: that like humor, uplifting talk, MMA, those type of things, right.

2045
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 2: Political opinions, yep, some of them, why they tune in?

2046
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:19,840
Speaker 2: Some of some are all of that?

2047
01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 4: All right, let's hear first from at Corey Underscore Coco.

2048
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,799
Speaker 2: Is it just me? Or is there a more frequent

2049
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,120
Speaker 2: amount of blatant cage grabs in the UFC? Should the

2050
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 2: refs do more than wave a finger when a cage

2051
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 2: grab prevents a slam to the mat? Thanks guys, MK,

2052
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: All day, Luke, is this a growing issue in your opinion?

2053
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 2: I mean that's been growing for a while, Like, is

2054
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 2: it worse this year than last? I'm not so sure

2055
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,479
Speaker 2: that's true. Do you agree that just swiping the hand

2056
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: by the referee is cool? But you also could slow

2057
01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:50,800
Speaker 2: someone's momentum and trying to build leverage to pull you down.

2058
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 5: I think there could be. I mean, it really is

2059
01:28:52,120 --> 01:28:54,519
Speaker 5: all context dependent. If the hand is there lazily and

2060
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 5: a slap gets it away, I'm okay with that. But

2061
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 5: I also feel like one more time, and I'm going

2062
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 5: to take a point. I listen, it comes down to this.

2063
01:29:02,640 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 5: I actually took a philosophy class of college.

2064
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 2: This is really true. There was a point about this.

2065
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,599
Speaker 8: Laws are not legal unless they are enforced.

2066
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:11,920
Speaker 2: Ah, so if you make it a point, no matter what,

2067
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 2: people will stop doing it. We'll just think about it.

2068
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:15,679
Speaker 5: If if the law says that it's fifty five miles

2069
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 5: an hour to drive, but if you go seventy eighty ninety,

2070
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 5: they don't enforce it, it's not really a law.

2071
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 2: Right, So well, no still means no. I mean, don't

2072
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 2: get don't get too crazy, okay, But if it's not enforced,

2073
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,360
Speaker 2: it's not a law. That's what my point. We could

2074
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: be unethical or morally heinous, but it wouldn't be a law.

2075
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 2: That's Matt Lauer.

2076
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Speaker 5: I'm just pointing out, in this theoretical example of miles

2077
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,759
Speaker 5: per hour and the highway, the only thing that actually

2078
01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 5: gives it binding legal authority is that it is enforced.

2079
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 5: So relative to that, if you want to do something

2080
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 5: about k Oh, the referee doesn't want to get involved, right,

2081
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 5: that's your job, do it.

2082
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,879
Speaker 2: So how about that fight we called on Saturday Showtime

2083
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 2: Boxing Countdown show or fucking points taken? In one fight?

2084
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:00,840
Speaker 2: He landed four low blows in four rounds and got

2085
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: three points taken away, and the ref let him stay

2086
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 2: in there and he won the day.

2087
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 5: And by the way, still he was so much better

2088
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 5: than the other guy. He still want a unanimous decision?

2089
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 5: Wild stuff right there?

2090
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 2: All right, let's if they make it a point, no

2091
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 2: matter what for grabbing, then it slowly goes away.

2092
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 5: Correct, it will never go away, but to the extent

2093
01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,960
Speaker 5: it can be limited by greater enforcement. I would like

2094
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 5: to I would like, here's all I want to see

2095
01:30:20,680 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 5: what actually happens when referees do, in fact take more points.

2096
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 2: What does it do to the sport? I would like

2097
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 2: to find out, all right from at wingstop Daddy, So

2098
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 2: you know this guy's diet if Gordon and Ryan were

2099
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,880
Speaker 2: to hypothetically make a transition to MMA, which gym or

2100
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 2: coach would you recommend he joined based you know, based

2101
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: on his style, mentality, all that stuff.

2102
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Speaker 5: Luke, Well, he's almost certainly on the gear, so we're

2103
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 5: gonna have issues here.

2104
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 2: No, I mean it probably would want to avoid UFC.

2105
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 2: In that case, maybe he should train in Augustan then.

2106
01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 3: No.

2107
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Speaker 8: I mean, here's the thing about Gordon Ryan's style.

2108
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Speaker 5: It's better now because there's a lot more well he

2109
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,280
Speaker 5: can play underneath. But so here's the thing you may

2110
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 5: not appreciate, or elite levels of no gi grappling in

2111
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 5: the last few years and especially in the last two

2112
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 5: have made pinning opponents a really big deal, forcing them

2113
01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 5: and holding them down, whereas before we're jiu jitsu is

2114
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 5: like I can flow from any position, but they weren't

2115
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 5: really holding a guy down. Gordon actually has that, So

2116
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:21,200
Speaker 5: I think his style could translate well under certain circumstances.

2117
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: Does it come down to whether he can take a punch,

2118
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 2: because if he can, then he'll be okay with learning,

2119
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 2: striking and really going on in on it.

2120
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Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a big question there. Also, he's twenty seven. Yeah,

2121
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 5: it's not too late.

2122
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: I would say, what are his weight possibilities with that

2123
01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:37,439
Speaker 2: jacked frame?

2124
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 8: He could make two o five. Okay, he could make

2125
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:40,120
Speaker 8: two of five.

2126
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:40,479
Speaker 2: I think.

2127
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 4: So you're sending him to Montreal and those cold winters

2128
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 4: with Farra?

2129
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think he needs someone who's a real student

2130
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 5: of the game. Obviously, if you know this, Farraz is

2131
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,679
Speaker 5: a black belt under John Danaher, as is Gordon Ryan.

2132
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Speaker 2: So it's sort of in the family. There a lot.

2133
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,639
Speaker 2: What does John call his army or something?

2134
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 5: Though they used to be called the danaher Desk Squad,

2135
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 5: but they split and half of it is now a

2136
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Speaker 5: B team and on the other side of his call

2137
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:00,599
Speaker 5: new Wave.

2138
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,599
Speaker 2: Oh that was the Nicky Rod debate.

2139
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 5: Then he Rod is on the B team, Yes, with

2140
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 5: Craig Jones and actually Gordon Ryan's brother split from Gordon

2141
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:09,479
Speaker 5: Ryan to go join B team.

2142
01:32:09,560 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 2: You agree with my assertion that the new mm A

2143
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 2: A team is you, Me and Chuck together a plus team.

2144
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:20,680
Speaker 2: Oh wow, all right, let's go at Kieran underscore Edwards too.

2145
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:24,160
Speaker 2: You Rea Lazon down the road that I must travel

2146
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 2: through the darkness and the light or night. Maybe I

2147
01:32:29,640 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know. What the words are? Go ahead,

2148
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 2: So MESSI is the goat pro athlete, isn't he? I mean,

2149
01:32:37,960 --> 01:32:39,800
Speaker 2: you know, look, I'll give a hand.

2150
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:41,840
Speaker 5: No, no, listen, Soccer is maybe the greatest sport in

2151
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 5: the world. It's truly an amazing sport and I love it.

2152
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 5: But great, put the question one more time. But at

2153
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,759
Speaker 5: one more time I'll see exactly is the goat pro athlete?

2154
01:32:50,080 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 2: Okay? Who is the goat pro athlete? Okay? What does

2155
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:56,040
Speaker 2: that mean? Does that mean most decorated? So who's in

2156
01:32:56,120 --> 01:33:01,040
Speaker 2: contention here? Muhammad Ali, Tom Brady Rady, Michael Jordan.

2157
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 5: There's like cricket players we've never heard of, rugby uh

2158
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:08,919
Speaker 5: is in that discussion?

2159
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky. Gretzky's in it, Amanda Newness. I don't know

2160
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:15,400
Speaker 2: about that.

2161
01:33:17,320 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 5: But dude, there's like a I saw this Japanese Olympic

2162
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:21,880
Speaker 5: women's wrestler who had won like four gold medals at

2163
01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 5: different games, James Brown.

2164
01:33:25,240 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 2: Jim Brown. They don't know about old Jim Brown. James

2165
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 2: fucking dump Truck. Well, if they watched UFC one, they

2166
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 2: know a little bit about him.

2167
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 5: I mean, obviously he's one of the most celebrated and

2168
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 5: he has a claim as being the best ever in

2169
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 5: his individual sport, but he also plays in a team sport.

2170
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 5: It's very hard to know exactly how it all would

2171
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:44,560
Speaker 5: how it all cross pollinates. But you know, is he

2172
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,960
Speaker 5: top three even if or maybe even top one in

2173
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:48,559
Speaker 5: pro football slash soccer?

2174
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,639
Speaker 2: Yes? Do you think Martin Bader of PBC and Showtime

2175
01:33:51,680 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Fame has worn clothes since the penalty kicks.

2176
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 5: So so the what he's joking about there is Mark

2177
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 5: Team is the one of the translators who works for

2178
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 5: Showtime because obviously you got a lot of athletes in

2179
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 5: boxing who speaks Spanish. He's from Argentina and a true gaucho,

2180
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 5: a true gaut show shousta Martin who the day after

2181
01:34:14,439 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 5: the to the two biggest teams in Argentine soccer, not

2182
01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 5: the national team with the club teams are Boca Juniors

2183
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,479
Speaker 5: in river Plate and he's a big book of juniors fan.

2184
01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 5: The day after Boca won their title again in the

2185
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 5: Argentine League, he on a fucking call with us with

2186
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 5: like other athletes, was wearing his Boca jersey. So I'm

2187
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 5: gonna guess that he you know, I mean, his dungarees

2188
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 5: were probably.

2189
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 2: He was wearing them from at rich p top tier.

2190
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 2: After watching that great World Cup final? What's sport when?

2191
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:49,799
Speaker 2: It's a good question, what's sport when, at its highest

2192
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,559
Speaker 2: levels is the most entertaining to watch? Can you rank

2193
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 2: to me in your personal fandom starting with number one?

2194
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: What's sports when they're at the very freaking peak? The

2195
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 2: peak when we're talking like perview in boxing that we've

2196
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 2: been waiting five years for, and then it's the fight

2197
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 2: of the year.

2198
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,200
Speaker 5: By the way, I wanted to skip this fucking World

2199
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 5: Cup final. I'm glad I didn't in a way, but

2200
01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 5: my wife was like, there's no way we're skipping this,

2201
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:10,280
Speaker 5: so I ended up watching it.

2202
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 2: It was like, yay for human rights abuses? No, no, no, no,

2203
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 2: you know what it is. It's I was like, who

2204
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 2: you cheering for? Here? Right? She was like she was

2205
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 2: like South Americans every time, and I was like, all right,

2206
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:22,000
Speaker 2: that's that's the game we're playing.

2207
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,439
Speaker 8: So we're talking about sports at their very very best.

2208
01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 2: For me, Yeah, boxing is going to be.

2209
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 5: Number one for me.

2210
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 2: That old bag can still get you.

2211
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 5: You know, most boxing I do not like as much

2212
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 5: as most MMA, but the very best boxing to me

2213
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,080
Speaker 5: is almost impossible.

2214
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,320
Speaker 2: Would you agree. The NBA can still bang you. I mean,

2215
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 2: they can still get you right once in a while.

2216
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,880
Speaker 2: They can just damn NBA. I haven't watched an NBA

2217
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: game that I really loved in a long time. Oh.

2218
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 2: I watched that Warrior Celtics finals last year with my son.

2219
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 2: Every single game. All that was like, that was some

2220
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 2: bot I put on.

2221
01:35:54,880 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 8: Soccer probably number two emmy, mm a three for me.

2222
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:05,919
Speaker 2: What about whatever your favorite Olympic sport is at the Olympics,

2223
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: whether it's like one hundred meters in track, weightlifting? Oh? Really, weightlifting? Easy,

2224
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 2: easy call, that's not really I mean, you know, oh,

2225
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,559
Speaker 2: high level grappling looks got it? You and Brenda Lynch, Right,

2226
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 2: big fans, do you act like this, like.

2227
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 5: You are above it, like your taste is superior in

2228
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,320
Speaker 5: some kind of way. You have you have the you

2229
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,120
Speaker 5: have the combat sports palette of a toddler.

2230
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 2: I used to learn the Final Four. Now I don't

2231
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 2: give a ship.

2232
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:30,559
Speaker 5: Dude, fucking fucking college basketball. I'd rather I mean, I'm

2233
01:36:30,560 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 5: not even doing a bit here. I would much rather

2234
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 5: watch the G League.

2235
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 2: Do you remember how good the Big East was in

2236
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 2: the nineties, Man, that I.

2237
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,840
Speaker 5: Don't even like dude, they don't even know dude big

2238
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,120
Speaker 5: East and at the time, obviously like dude duke versus

2239
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:43,759
Speaker 5: unc used to mean something.

2240
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 2: Oh when Stackhouse came underneath at Duke and oh my god,

2241
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 2: damn you know what I'm saying.

2242
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,679
Speaker 5: Really, but now now all the good people leave early,

2243
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 5: so it sucks.

2244
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 2: Last one is from at ty Larean's ZZZ name the

2245
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 2: worst Christmas gift you ever received? Don't any watch the

2246
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 2: show if we just as this question recently, I think

2247
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 2: we did, but we can probably do it again. The

2248
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 2: best one. I think the best one was a bike?

2249
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 2: I guy, Yeah, what was the worst? Like what does

2250
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 2: the worst mean that? Like somebody paid a lot of

2251
01:37:09,920 --> 01:37:11,439
Speaker 2: money to get you something cool and it turns out

2252
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 2: it sucked. Yeah, I mean the worst gift is you know,

2253
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,480
Speaker 2: there's a lot of times I didn't like get shit.

2254
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 5: Worst gift? Like I was just like, what the Like,

2255
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 5: what's the what's the first gift you ever opened? You're like,

2256
01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 5: I'm taking this motherfucker back to the store of the

2257
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:24,120
Speaker 5: day that I.

2258
01:37:24,120 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: Thought that was closed. When you're a kid, like if

2259
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 2: a random aunt would jump into the gift space and

2260
01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:30,640
Speaker 2: buy you something and it's like, well, thanks random, am

2261
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 2: I hope it's a phone ball gun or something. You

2262
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 2: open up and it's like a shirt and you're like,

2263
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 2: how much can I get for this? That aims if

2264
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 2: I return it?

2265
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:42,439
Speaker 5: You know, I think, I think one time, and then

2266
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 5: again I've been pretty lucky I've not received it. Oh,

2267
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 5: I've told you before. It was the fucking remote control

2268
01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,200
Speaker 5: my mom had that she gave me, and it was

2269
01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 5: one remote and one button and all it was. If

2270
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 5: you press it, it turned the fucking thing to the

2271
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:55,360
Speaker 5: right or left, whatever it was, and it couldn't do

2272
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 5: shit else except just go forward and turn. I was like,

2273
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,840
Speaker 5: this is the worst fucking and what Everyone else had

2274
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 5: the ones with the wheels on it and you could

2275
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:02,959
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

2276
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:04,960
Speaker 2: Dude, I had I got. I got the clapper in

2277
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 2: high school. There's nothing TV in high school. I got

2278
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,400
Speaker 2: the clapper and I hooked up the lights in my

2279
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 2: bedroom to that and you could set them off, like yeah,

2280
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:15,880
Speaker 2: you could set them off if you fart really fast

2281
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 2: in succession. It's beat mean, you got it. It's like

2282
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 2: post Chinese takeoff. You know.

2283
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,200
Speaker 5: I was wrestling with my daughter the other day and

2284
01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:24,400
Speaker 5: I gave her like a like the old gable grip,

2285
01:38:24,439 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 5: a little bit of a bear hut.

2286
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 2: Did you give her a Native American burn? Was that

2287
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 2: when you do this? Yeah? Because you know what you

2288
01:38:29,840 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 2: used to call it? You not me? Not me, dude.

2289
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 2: I know in elementary is called the Native American burn.

2290
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 5: I know you didn't, but I'm saying no, I was.

2291
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 5: I was hugging her and it squeezed the fart out

2292
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:39,920
Speaker 5: and we all.

2293
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,960
Speaker 2: Had a good laugh. Oh wow, that's real, wholesomely And

2294
01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 2: then she looked at I let her go, and she

2295
01:38:43,320 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 2: was laughing. She looked at me and she goes again, daddy.

2296
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:49,360
Speaker 2: So I squeezed her again and I got another one out. Goddamn.

2297
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 2: That's a proud daddom right there. Yeah. Wow, Okay, Luke,

2298
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 2: I've got something for you. It's a healthy it's kind

2299
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 2: of alive. This is a good ass batch of ship

2300
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,840
Speaker 2: that I put together. All right, you're all right. Let's

2301
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,759
Speaker 2: see what we got here. We scoured the globe yesterday, myself,

2302
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:07,960
Speaker 2: Gaffney Pierre, and then the ones and twos behind the scenes,

2303
01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 2: Luke Nosda from Long Island by way of Australia, and

2304
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:13,599
Speaker 2: we scoured the globe and put together the good, the bad,

2305
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 2: the ugly, the heus and lows from Combat Sports and beyond.

2306
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 2: We call this BC's feces. Oh oh god, Luke, you

2307
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 2: mentioned Brendan Fitzgerald as one of the top play by

2308
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 2: play men in this space. UFC Fight night in Vegas,

2309
01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:33,599
Speaker 2: before the card even started, Brendan about to get us

2310
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:49,560
Speaker 2: in that Christmas spirit, Luke, are you impressed by his performance? No?

2311
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 2: Why look at that ugly sweater with a piano on it, right?

2312
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 2: Or is that a Star Wars ship? I can't.

2313
01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,320
Speaker 5: I mean I can't play piano, but I know enough

2314
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 5: about playing it piano to know that this is not

2315
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 5: all right, an ordinary degree of skill.

2316
01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,680
Speaker 2: Well, I guess it's shit. I've seen it. Thank you

2317
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 2: very much. Let's keep it going from UFC Fight and

2318
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:09,280
Speaker 2: I shout out to Brendan fitzjo by the.

2319
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 8: Way, he was a great commentator, but you know, very

2320
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 8: mediocre piano.

2321
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,360
Speaker 2: We mentioned Rafa Garcia nearly bled out Luke an artery

2322
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:17,759
Speaker 2: cut on his head. Here's a great picture from Getty

2323
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 2: Images Chris Unger of Rafa and Mahashate going nose to nose.

2324
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 4: This looks like the set of Carry Luke.

2325
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 2: You know, I remember that one Jesus cool sissy spacek

2326
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 2: damn blast in the past.

2327
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 5: That's gross, right, Wow, you're going to have to clean

2328
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 5: the blood out of the inside of your ear.

2329
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you got a little anya there. That's something. Okay.

2330
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,000
Speaker 2: By the way, they needed to be separated after that round.

2331
01:40:39,080 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 2: That was pretty cool to see luke masculinity at its finest.

2332
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:44,320
Speaker 2: Also on the undercart, how the hell did he not

2333
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 2: tap menel cop Kimura David de Vorak to close round one? Luke,

2334
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 2: I can tell you how you didn't. That's tight.

2335
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 5: Damn, that's tight it is, and it's pretty close. But

2336
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,800
Speaker 5: I can tell you why you didn't. Why Uh well

2337
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:58,960
Speaker 5: he called him too high, Okay, so pause it if

2338
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,120
Speaker 5: you can anyway you can pull Okay, you see his

2339
01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 5: knees covering it.

2340
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:05,760
Speaker 8: There's no way I can show you up here.

2341
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 2: We can do this, Luke. Look at this. This is

2342
01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 2: his elbow right here, right, See his elbow, and that's

2343
01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 2: the chest. Look how much space there is, which means

2344
01:41:14,640 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 2: your arms are extended, which means you're kind of just

2345
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:19,800
Speaker 2: forcing it with this way. A true kimora, like a.

2346
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,800
Speaker 5: Really good one, is when their elbow is in the

2347
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:25,599
Speaker 5: center of your chest and you actually use I don't

2348
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:29,720
Speaker 5: turn my arms. I turn my body when I turn it.

2349
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,000
Speaker 5: When I attach his arm to my chest and then

2350
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,680
Speaker 5: I turn my body. That is what does it When

2351
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:37,040
Speaker 5: your arms are out in front of you and you're

2352
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 5: just pushing it, it won't get the job. That's white

2353
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:39,719
Speaker 5: belt shit.

2354
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:40,759
Speaker 2: Not necessarily.

2355
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 8: It's the middle of a fucking fight. Like he sees something,

2356
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 8: he's trying to go for it.

2357
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 2: But bouncer, have you ever kimurred a bit, choked a

2358
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 2: few motherfuckers, but no, never? Uh never, bitch? All right, Hey,

2359
01:41:50,760 --> 01:41:53,280
Speaker 2: how about this insane headkick from Bruce Lee roy Alex

2360
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 2: Casseris against Julian Erosa. Damn Luke. I mean it's just perfection.

2361
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 8: Wow, he had him not quite stiff, but pretty pretty

2362
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 8: fucking close.

2363
01:42:03,080 --> 01:42:05,759
Speaker 2: Man? Is that a knockout of the ear contender?

2364
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 3: Umm?

2365
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:10,120
Speaker 5: Maybe just shy, but it's a very good one.

2366
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 2: Right, he dropped him with it, but it Oh yeah,

2367
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,120
Speaker 2: oh god, good grounding pound on top of him.

2368
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was nice. You gotta be careful with him.

2369
01:42:18,720 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 2: Man. You mentioned Drew dober tying Dustin Poier for the

2370
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,880
Speaker 2: most knockouts in lightweight history. Let's look at it. This

2371
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 2: one shot against Bobby Green was terrified fucking dover is

2372
01:42:28,840 --> 01:42:31,600
Speaker 2: and he welcomed heavy, heavy trauma to get to that.

2373
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,040
Speaker 8: By the way, great stoppage there from Keith Peterson.

2374
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:34,000
Speaker 2: Who.

2375
01:42:37,360 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 4: I was like, old hoops, that guy, I love him.

2376
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:42,360
Speaker 2: We got a party with Keith Peterson. Speaking of Bobby Green, Luke,

2377
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:46,559
Speaker 2: here was that media day rant he had about Islam

2378
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 2: Mahchev that I wanted to get your opinion on. Here

2379
01:42:48,280 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 2: we go.

2380
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 3: I was fucking around on my YouTube right and I

2381
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 3: found this little video and it said Islam had a

2382
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,559
Speaker 3: little trouble with drugs, but I don't see people talking

2383
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 3: about him. And so he was saying when he first

2384
01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:05,240
Speaker 3: came over that his school that he trained at in Russia,

2385
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:07,960
Speaker 3: they just gave him vitamins. You know, they've been doing

2386
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 3: this since who knows when when you start training. Imagine

2387
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:19,439
Speaker 3: if you gave someone steroids from the age of ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,

2388
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,080
Speaker 3: how strong you would be. People were like, he was

2389
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:22,719
Speaker 3: really strong.

2390
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:23,760
Speaker 2: It makes sense.

2391
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:26,240
Speaker 3: Now There's two people that I moved around with. I'm

2392
01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 3: not gonna say their names, but I was like, that's

2393
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:30,679
Speaker 3: entry I'm moving with thousands of guys.

2394
01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 2: That was interesting. I told my coach, same thing. There

2395
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:36,240
Speaker 2: was something interesting about Islam. I felt it.

2396
01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, is this not human? It makes sense if

2397
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,719
Speaker 3: I could do drugs like cause our countries are different.

2398
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:47,240
Speaker 3: Russia's been banned for the Olympics. You know, their countries

2399
01:43:47,240 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 3: is a little bit more okay with the drug use.

2400
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 3: We're under strenuous, you know, under strenuous drug stuff over

2401
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 3: here there, it's a little bit different.

2402
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 2: They're behind their fighters.

2403
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:58,800
Speaker 3: They want them to be stronger, they want them to

2404
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:01,400
Speaker 3: be more magic here, we don't look can use what

2405
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 3: it is.

2406
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 2: But can you fact check his rant? Is there some

2407
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 2: proof here? Can we change that to a no contest? Uh? No, no,

2408
01:44:09,280 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 2: you cannot. I mean, is there a in theory? Is

2409
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 2: there athletes from that part of the world. Is there

2410
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 2: a culture in which you'd be taking vitamins as a child.

2411
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 5: And sure the East Germans were famous for it. But

2412
01:44:23,479 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 5: you know, if you give a child steroids, I mean

2413
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 5: there are so you can have medically. For example, Lionel

2414
01:44:27,880 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 5: Messi had to take a version of steroids as a

2415
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:31,799
Speaker 5: child because he was physically under developed.

2416
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,920
Speaker 2: This is the last time he touched the stuff. I'm

2417
01:44:34,000 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 2: sure that's not true at all.

2418
01:44:35,160 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 5: But either way, you know, he's just I don't know,

2419
01:44:38,160 --> 01:44:40,400
Speaker 5: I don't know what theory he's describing where you could

2420
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:42,240
Speaker 5: just give Sarah's we get It's like you'll have some

2421
01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 5: of you given to him at twelve. I'm like, yeah,

2422
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 5: they're dead at twenty five. That's kind of what happens

2423
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,559
Speaker 5: to him typically. So I tend to think that, yes,

2424
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 5: is he right that there is state sponsored doping in Russia?

2425
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 5: Like one, we know for a fact that that is true,

2426
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 5: whether or not somebody from you know, the Mountains of

2427
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,120
Speaker 5: Dakistan was a beneficiary of That means to me just

2428
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:03,160
Speaker 5: you know, more conjecture than anything.

2429
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have to continue our research. Let's go

2430
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 2: to the weekend that wasn't boxing Showtime from Las Vegas.

2431
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:09,960
Speaker 2: Here's the knockdown from round seven we mentioned before. Frank

2432
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 2: Martin two punch combo the first one did it all though?

2433
01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,559
Speaker 5: Damn look a pull two counter right hook. I mean,

2434
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 5: show that one more time, show that one more time?

2435
01:45:20,040 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 5: Oh fucking nice. Look at this, Look at this, watch

2436
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 5: this shit watch the pull two. Oh god, damn, Frank

2437
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:34,200
Speaker 5: Martin is a problem artilement.

2438
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 2: On the Showtime Championship Boxing countdown portion and look we

2439
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:40,800
Speaker 2: call this one. Nineteen year old Elijah Garcia delivering the boom.

2440
01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:42,920
Speaker 4: Here for a second round finish. Here's the ringside view.

2441
01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:50,400
Speaker 5: Pushes them off, body shot, elbow, elbow, Oh ply, just

2442
01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 5: like that?

2443
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:54,800
Speaker 2: That was what was it? The second round? Stoppers. Let's

2444
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 2: go over to the UK. Here's Chris Billum Smith with

2445
01:45:57,600 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 2: the upper cut from hell on this boxer promote the guard.

2446
01:46:02,320 --> 01:46:08,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh damn, dude, what is up with boxing referees

2447
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:09,920
Speaker 5: not wearing gloves?

2448
01:46:10,080 --> 01:46:20,840
Speaker 2: Coachinos, dude, look at this what a beautiful liver shots. Damn.

2449
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,400
Speaker 8: He testified in church too, watched this.

2450
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 2: Look at the angle boom. He ate all of that.

2451
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:32,519
Speaker 2: Last Tuesday, Luke we We rejoiced after Niowa Newa scored

2452
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:36,320
Speaker 2: another sensational finish, becoming the first undisputed Bandonway champion. We

2453
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 2: mentioned how hard it was Paul Butler there to survive.

2454
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 2: But look at a new way, figure out a way

2455
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 2: to find an opening. He was just like enough of

2456
01:46:47,560 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 2: this ship, right, dude.

2457
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 5: He can and his his he can blind while he

2458
01:46:51,560 --> 01:46:55,360
Speaker 5: changes rhythms and changes speeds. He does touch, touch go

2459
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 5: like he has so many tools, man, so many tools.

2460
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 2: Let me set up the next one. Luke, you remember

2461
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,839
Speaker 2: last weekend when Tayo Femal Lopez scored a close decision

2462
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,360
Speaker 2: went over Sandor Martin in his return here at one

2463
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 2: hundred and forty pounds and was.

2464
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 4: Caught on camera afterwards saying, what do I still have it?

2465
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:11,360
Speaker 2: Right?

2466
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 4: He was on the ESPN State of Boxing show and

2467
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:14,560
Speaker 4: asked about that.

2468
01:47:14,720 --> 01:47:16,400
Speaker 8: There's cop one of the.

2469
01:47:16,439 --> 01:47:18,960
Speaker 2: Most important things that we heard that night.

2470
01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,160
Speaker 6: You were in the ring, you saw the camera in

2471
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 6: front of you, there was a hot mic, and a

2472
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 6: lot was made of you saying and asking yourself do

2473
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:26,600
Speaker 6: I still have it?

2474
01:47:26,720 --> 01:47:28,280
Speaker 2: What was going on through your mind? And do you

2475
01:47:28,320 --> 01:47:29,759
Speaker 2: want to clarify that situation?

2476
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 7: Well?

2477
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:33,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean if you guys would like to. I mean,

2478
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 6: my whole thing is just always staying in the loop

2479
01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:39,760
Speaker 6: of things. So you know when it came to you guys,

2480
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 6: like with the camera and everything. I mean, I know

2481
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 6: what a red dot looks like, guys. So it's there

2482
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:47,080
Speaker 6: a strategic move. I know, I got everything in me

2483
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,679
Speaker 6: to always win. That's why we called it the takeover.

2484
01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,360
Speaker 5: So you know, my whole thing was not even about that.

2485
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:54,760
Speaker 6: It was just a strategic move. So people still talk

2486
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 6: about Teo Femal Opez, which they've been doing.

2487
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 2: Luke is Denial just another river or is he playing

2488
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,320
Speaker 2: a different game of chess than we realized.

2489
01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,559
Speaker 5: I had a boxing coach hit me up on social

2490
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 5: media quietly, I won't say who it was, and he

2491
01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:14,840
Speaker 5: was like Tailfin was in trouble, not because of this

2492
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:17,599
Speaker 5: per se, but like everything together. Yeah, And he said,

2493
01:48:17,640 --> 01:48:19,439
Speaker 5: but he said something interesting to me. He said, pay

2494
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:23,519
Speaker 5: attention to how team Lopez has trouble. Lopez is good

2495
01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 5: when guys are coming after him. Yes, he has a

2496
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 5: hard time going after anybody else, which you saw in.

2497
01:48:27,640 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 2: The sand Or Marteen fight. You know. I thought that

2498
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:34,719
Speaker 2: was an interesting, little little surprise message out of nowhere,

2499
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:36,800
Speaker 2: if there's any truth to that, and I would agree

2500
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of like he's camera savvy, he would

2501
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:39,240
Speaker 2: have known.

2502
01:48:39,280 --> 01:48:42,040
Speaker 4: And it did seem so odd. If this is true,

2503
01:48:42,160 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 4: is he doing it to try to lure the.

2504
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 2: Big names, maybe even the names across the street to

2505
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 2: want to go out of their way to fight him,

2506
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,439
Speaker 2: thinking that he's damaged Goods.

2507
01:48:52,600 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 4: Or maybe is he just damaged good and doesn't know it.

2508
01:48:54,880 --> 01:48:56,439
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a reality series.

2509
01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,680
Speaker 5: I thought he has a sneaky suspicion that he's he

2510
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 5: might peaked already and this is he's in trouble.

2511
01:49:02,360 --> 01:49:04,400
Speaker 2: But but I hope not. I love that guy, but

2512
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:06,600
Speaker 2: you know this, yeah, yeah, it is what it is.

2513
01:49:06,680 --> 01:49:08,280
Speaker 5: It does seem to me that some part of that

2514
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 5: he is internally wrestling with. How much and how often

2515
01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:11,599
Speaker 5: it's hard to say.

2516
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 2: Gordon Ryan Luke made a lot of headlines with his

2517
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 2: performance in the UFC PI or UFC Invitational grappling event.

2518
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,599
Speaker 2: He was also at the p I with one Thorn

2519
01:49:20,720 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 2: Bjornson and they rolled around. Here's footage strongest man in

2520
01:49:23,560 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 2: the world at one point. Watch it. How good Gordon is.

2521
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 5: He's gonna get He's gonna go hook, sweep, turn him,

2522
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 5: He's gonna get behind his elbow here and come underneath

2523
01:49:34,040 --> 01:49:34,200
Speaker 5: like that.

2524
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 2: And a fight would Gordon tap him easily or what?

2525
01:49:36,640 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. A fight it's a different thing. And

2526
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:39,960
Speaker 2: he got big ass punches being thrown. It's hard to stay.

2527
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 2: But what if what if Thorn gets on top and look.

2528
01:49:44,120 --> 01:49:48,840
Speaker 5: Take down like that just like that, and he's so

2529
01:49:49,000 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 5: he separated. So when your elbows are far away from

2530
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:54,080
Speaker 5: your body, that is you're getting You're getting a big brother.

2531
01:49:54,720 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 2: I mean, did Thorn Bjornsen Ruin too, Fimo's career on

2532
01:49:57,439 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 2: that Body show you might have Wow. All right, Luke,

2533
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,560
Speaker 2: you've belong said that vaping is your vape habit is

2534
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 2: the gift that keeps on giving for him. Well, check

2535
01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 2: out this vape artist. We've played guys like this before,

2536
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 2: but this guy taking it next level. This is our

2537
01:50:10,600 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 2: form and vape. Okay, this is the messy of vaping.

2538
01:50:14,120 --> 01:50:15,760
Speaker 2: This is the World Club Final right now.

2539
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 5: Understand you can be the messy of vaping and also

2540
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:19,800
Speaker 5: like a sex prep pest.

2541
01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 2: And you have your car repossessed for failure to pay

2542
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 2: your bills on time. Would you say that you're trying

2543
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:27,599
Speaker 2: to change the stigma of who it is that might

2544
01:50:27,680 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 2: vape and what vaping represents? Dude? This man who this

2545
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,519
Speaker 2: guy is? Dude, Michael Jordan flu game funk that this

2546
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,080
Speaker 2: is the Michelangelo of vaping.

2547
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,479
Speaker 8: Dude, just put this asshole in the Sistine Chapel already.

2548
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:43,960
Speaker 2: Well, Luke, not just regular people, vape celebrities and legends too.

2549
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 2: You ever hear of announcing legend Gus Johnson. Of course

2550
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:50,479
Speaker 2: you have, Luke, check this out live during the game.

2551
01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 8: Okay, I take back all my criticisms of Gus Johnson.

2552
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:57,759
Speaker 2: What if Gus was one of us, just a clown,

2553
01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 2: just a slob, like one of us.

2554
01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:01,639
Speaker 5: Luke, listen to say something as a as a guy,

2555
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 5: I would love to know what flavor. I'm a watermelon,

2556
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:05,800
Speaker 5: ice Sky. I would love to know if he's like

2557
01:51:06,040 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 5: mango or something.

2558
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:10,679
Speaker 2: You know, Luke, we used to do social justice Wednesdays

2559
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 2: where people would send each other to hell. Here's Oscar

2560
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 2: de la Hoya, the Hall of Fame fighter and promoter,

2561
01:51:15,640 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 2: firing back at a fan. What do you think of

2562
01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 2: his game here? Luke?

2563
01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 5: What do you know about boxing? Capital ass wife period?

2564
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:23,960
Speaker 5: It's like, I don't know a lot.

2565
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:25,720
Speaker 2: About boxing compared to Oscar, but I know a fuck

2566
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 2: ton more about Graham Ri Wow. Odh took it right there.

2567
01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

2568
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:31,640
Speaker 2: He seems very happy and married to Holly Saunders now

2569
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 2: and he has so he tells us on social media

2570
01:51:34,600 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 2: very blatantly. Luke, you know my favorite segment. Within this segment,

2571
01:51:37,479 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 2: it's MMA fighters in the wild being regular people just

2572
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:40,720
Speaker 2: like us.

2573
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:42,639
Speaker 8: You have to watch a bunch of Cadira off birthday parties.

2574
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,919
Speaker 2: Here's Cutter providing skyscraper tribute.

2575
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:47,599
Speaker 8: Scraper shit, is that real?

2576
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 2: To Habib a abdolmen app luke, Look at this man,

2577
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 2: Are you sure this is this is? This is our

2578
01:51:51,880 --> 01:51:53,439
Speaker 2: cut I means, do I have proof that it's real?

2579
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:53,600
Speaker 3: No?

2580
01:51:53,720 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 2: But this is cutter and this is Abib. Who wasn't

2581
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:57,560
Speaker 2: he at the World Cup? Uh? He was at the

2582
01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 2: World Cup? Camera man's nodding. I don't know, but I'm guessing. Yeah.

2583
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,880
Speaker 8: Us, Wow, that's bad fucking awesome.

2584
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Maybe they'll keep the business. Maybe they'll be a

2585
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:07,800
Speaker 2: UFC card there after this tribute. I won't go. Okay,

2586
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:09,800
Speaker 2: you watched though, you did, you took part, you were,

2587
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,960
Speaker 2: you were complicit? I did watch it in the violence,

2588
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 2: uh luke. Speaking of people scoring the big one, let's

2589
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 2: check out Clay Guida. I'd have to check my memory,

2590
01:52:18,160 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 2: but I don't think I've ever seen one that big.

2591
01:52:19,760 --> 01:52:23,760
Speaker 5: Your memory, dude, you are the cheapest fucking laugh dude.

2592
01:52:23,800 --> 01:52:26,840
Speaker 2: How about that catch big catch man? Right, real big fish?

2593
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:29,360
Speaker 2: Good nineties band? Right?

2594
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:29,439
Speaker 10: No?

2595
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:35,040
Speaker 2: Not not not good? Sell out, sell out? What do

2596
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 2: you think your record company's gonna give us lots of money?

2597
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 2: Everything's gonna be all right? The Urge or was the

2598
01:52:42,600 --> 01:52:43,880
Speaker 2: the Urge was a good band? Man?

2599
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 8: Remember Propa Gandhi. Remember propaganda were pretty good band.

2600
01:52:47,000 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 2: Okay, your thoughts on Clay's conquest here.

2601
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:51,960
Speaker 8: Look, this guy's got a couple of good catches.

2602
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:55,160
Speaker 2: The carpenter just building, you know, building.

2603
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:57,880
Speaker 8: A cigar guy. I've tried.

2604
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's he's making it work for He's working

2605
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:03,439
Speaker 2: work for him. Yeah, you're working building a mystery, right,

2606
01:53:03,520 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 2: That's what Sarah McLaughlin's saying at lit Fair Time. That's

2607
01:53:06,920 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 2: where I picked up my super ru. Luke Morob, the

2608
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 2: Villish Wheelie, wrote Welcome to Heaven as the ig subhead

2609
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:15,479
Speaker 2: of these picks from his weekend.

2610
01:53:15,600 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 5: Your thoughts, God bless Morob. I mean, he's just living

2611
01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 5: the dream.

2612
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 2: Huh. It gets better.

2613
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 4: He does the Andrea of the Giant pose, trying to

2614
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:24,120
Speaker 4: juggle the chicks.

2615
01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 2: Luke, He's like, let me see if I can lift

2616
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 2: all this booty, and turns out Luki he can. He can. Wow.

2617
01:53:31,400 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 2: There you go.

2618
01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 4: That's the famous Andre the Giant shot, Luke.

2619
01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:35,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, not quite the same.

2620
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:36,000
Speaker 2: That's the money shot.

2621
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:36,200
Speaker 3: Well.

2622
01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:38,760
Speaker 2: Luke Morob also was shown by this lady. He taught

2623
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:40,400
Speaker 2: her self defense how to get out of a rear

2624
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:50,679
Speaker 2: naked choke. Here's Morob acting the role of predator. Oh shit, yeah, yeah,

2625
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:52,080
Speaker 2: she went for the stick shift.

2626
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:54,840
Speaker 4: She put it into neutral in a second, Luke, reverse.

2627
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 2: Get out of there. That was not an automatic car. Okay, wow,

2628
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 2: all right, Luke. Alexander Vulcana, who's kind of erotic? If

2629
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,760
Speaker 2: you're being we'll talk about it on our Patreon post

2630
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 2: show and only pipes. Luke, this is Alexander Volkanowski. You know,

2631
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:10,960
Speaker 2: he's preparing for Isla Mahachev and he believes his left knee,

2632
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,720
Speaker 2: which has been defigured through years of grappling, looks a

2633
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 2: lot like Mahachev's face. Your thoughts?

2634
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:20,920
Speaker 5: Is this like the the people who like find the

2635
01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:23,200
Speaker 5: Virgin Mary Find thee.

2636
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. I love that shit, Luke. Valerie Laredo,

2637
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,759
Speaker 2: we know, has entered the WWE system as a developmental wrestler.

2638
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 2: Who persona I already this photo. Her persona is Lolavice.

2639
01:54:35,560 --> 01:54:36,520
Speaker 2: Your thoughts? That's her name?

2640
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 8: Lola is my dog's name.

2641
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 2: Okay, and you have a vice in this category as well? Yes, yeah, yeah,

2642
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 2: that's great, Luke. What if MMA fighters were like one

2643
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 2: of us? Here's Nico Price at the UFC Orlando Fighter Hotel,

2644
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 2: fishing off the balcony, Luke, he's very industrial. You know

2645
01:54:54,280 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 2: what Dana was right, he said they eat what they kill, right,

2646
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 2: the fighters, That's why they don't need to raise. Yeah,

2647
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 2: he's going to be hungry eating that. We you know,

2648
01:55:00,560 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 2: Nico Price, thank you very Luke. We have footage of

2649
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:06,600
Speaker 2: how you came to be, how you came to be.

2650
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:09,800
Speaker 8: Here's is this footage of my parents fucking because you can.

2651
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't have that. I actually don't have access

2652
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 2: to check if Glalker has that. But Luke, let's go

2653
01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 2: to young Luke Thomas at his first belly dancing restaurant.

2654
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:19,360
Speaker 8: That's that's that's about right now.

2655
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:25,040
Speaker 2: Is just getting a mouth bree that just mouth breathing

2656
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 2: like I didn't know they could do that, b b l.

2657
01:55:29,440 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 2: This is I mean, this is how I'd be now.

2658
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 2: That is very true. Nothing's changed, Luke, speaking of training

2659
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:37,200
Speaker 2: up your child and the way he should go, which

2660
01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:39,680
Speaker 2: is a biblical instruction. How about a new segment called

2661
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 2: mm A Parenting. Are you ready? Oh God, here's Tsha

2662
01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:45,920
Speaker 2: and Rocky Luke having their MMA inspired gender reveal. T

2663
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 2: Sha Torre is pregnant with their first child and it's

2664
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 2: a girl. Luke, I'm happy for him. I'm a big

2665
01:55:53,000 --> 01:55:55,800
Speaker 2: fan of the gender reveals, but you know, I mean,

2666
01:55:55,920 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 2: this is this look at the emotion. I'm it's pretty great.

2667
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:00,800
Speaker 2: He's been one of my favorite stars for many years. Luke.

2668
01:56:00,800 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm very happy. Both very talented. Actually absolutely Luke, speaking

2669
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 2: of training your child up, young Ocean Perry work in

2670
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,520
Speaker 2: the bag right next to us. Pop's Mike. Let's see.

2671
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's cute. He is cute. He's incredibly cute, Luke.

2672
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 8: Okay, well, that's pretty adorable.

2673
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:18,480
Speaker 2: Maybe work on the technique a little bit. Pretty adorable,

2674
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:20,520
Speaker 2: you think he should work on his technique a little How.

2675
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 8: Old is he like, Mike?

2676
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,000
Speaker 2: Oh? Mike kidding?

2677
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 4: How about the pants for Mike matching the design of

2678
01:56:27,440 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 4: Ocean shirt.

2679
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:29,600
Speaker 2: It's very in sync.

2680
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's nice. What jersey is he wearing? I can't

2681
01:56:31,920 --> 01:56:35,040
Speaker 5: quite see Detroit Lions. I think who's Who's it?

2682
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:41,760
Speaker 2: Sanders? That's Luke Benson. Henderson entertained his children this weekend

2683
01:56:41,880 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 2: by hanging them from a blanket from a balcony. I

2684
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:46,000
Speaker 2: think we've seen this before, right.

2685
01:56:45,960 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 8: Y Belatore's paying Benson real nicely.

2686
01:56:48,160 --> 01:56:48,320
Speaker 2: Huh.

2687
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:51,080
Speaker 4: This actually looks pretty fun for it actually looks great.

2688
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, injuries could certainly.

2689
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:54,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, they're going to get to capitated events.

2690
01:56:54,800 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 2: But doesn't this remind you of a famous moment in

2691
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 2: parenting history, Luke, No, Michael Jackson blanket in Berlin when

2692
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,440
Speaker 2: he hung blanket ben Berlin. Excuse me, when he hung

2693
01:57:05,520 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 2: blanket by a blanket, Luke, you remember this back in

2694
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:10,640
Speaker 2: like two thousand and two or something. I don't know.

2695
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:14,320
Speaker 2: Do we have footage of it? Please? I'm getting balcony

2696
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 2: baby flash right here it is, Luke, there's Jacko. Is

2697
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:18,480
Speaker 2: this when he hung it? I mean, just what I mean,

2698
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 2: it was his own child, to be fair, but maybe

2699
01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,760
Speaker 2: Blanket should have used that rare naked defense that Morabka

2700
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:25,120
Speaker 2: call against Michael.

2701
01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:29,640
Speaker 5: All Right, I'm just amazed at all these people people

2702
01:57:29,720 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 5: were outraged by this, you know, yeah, not the predatory behavior,

2703
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:34,520
Speaker 5: but certainly.

2704
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 2: That that's his own child, that's blanket. What's Blanket's real name?

2705
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 2: Isn't like Prince or something? Stupid? Fuck? I mean I

2706
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 2: don't know, all right, Luke, Speaking of poor parenting, how

2707
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 2: about this kid on the Miami Heat broadcast. I mean, granted,

2708
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 2: if I was caught on camera today an NBA game

2709
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:53,200
Speaker 2: and my family wasn't there. I might do this too, Luke,

2710
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Just to be fair, right,

2711
01:57:54,720 --> 01:57:56,600
Speaker 2: I would like to tell you that I'm above this. Ye,

2712
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 2: I want to be clear. I'm not above it. I'm

2713
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 2: not above this. Hey, Dana Dixon do that half the

2714
01:58:01,120 --> 01:58:04,760
Speaker 2: time on this show. That's true. H Dana's motherfucking slap League,

2715
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:06,600
Speaker 2: Luke is continuing their tryouts all around America.

2716
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 8: You change the name to that, It's called Dana White's

2717
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 8: motherfucking slap Lea.

2718
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:11,920
Speaker 2: Here's a future contender getting two for the price of

2719
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 2: one here, Oh damn right? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you gotta

2720
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 2: be kiddy. That's that's great, Luke. Don't think I forgot

2721
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,280
Speaker 2: about the biggest fight of the weekend and the biggest

2722
01:58:26,280 --> 01:58:29,480
Speaker 2: fighting ks W history. How about mom?

2723
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 4: Now call it off.

2724
01:58:30,680 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 2: Stopping the strong man himself, Martyus Pujinowski.

2725
01:58:34,160 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 5: Pujinowski, by the way, a legit strong man, one that

2726
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 5: I think the world strongest man four or five times

2727
01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:43,120
Speaker 5: he got body by middleweight basically the.

2728
01:58:43,880 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 2: Back advertisement right, Luke, Yeah, do you think he did

2729
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:49,240
Speaker 2: that to cover up his back knee from all that?

2730
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:51,360
Speaker 8: Probably to get paid. I don't think he cares the

2731
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:52,280
Speaker 8: funk about the back name.

2732
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Is that a big win? Luke?

2733
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:55,840
Speaker 5: They're both old, right, I mean it's a it's an

2734
01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:58,200
Speaker 5: interesting win, and it's big for ksw who does stuff

2735
01:58:58,280 --> 01:58:58,440
Speaker 5: like this.

2736
01:58:59,080 --> 01:59:02,680
Speaker 2: This like Rod versus Rat Tang versus Demetrius Kindes.

2737
01:59:02,440 --> 01:59:04,360
Speaker 5: It's award of not really, I mean they're both MMA fighters.

2738
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 5: It's a big weight class disparity and like these are

2739
01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 5: two like the biggest pole well yeah, two of the

2740
01:59:08,400 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 5: biggest names in Polish MMA.

2741
01:59:09,960 --> 01:59:11,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, and so they had them fight like this.

2742
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 5: So it's a it's a it's a bit of it's

2743
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 5: a little more pride than one in the way that

2744
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 5: you're describing it.

2745
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:19,800
Speaker 2: But I'd love to get some poonski's and check this out.

2746
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 8: I've never had a punski.

2747
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 2: You've talked big about them. So they say I pronounce

2748
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 2: that wrong, it's right, like I don't know how to

2749
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 2: say it.

2750
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:26,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, dude, Polish is a funny language.

2751
01:59:26,560 --> 01:59:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't pusha not the only strong man making waves.

2752
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,600
Speaker 2: Here's Eddie the Beast Hall introducing something I like to

2753
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 2: call dick art. Were you into this?

2754
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:44,840
Speaker 11: You're a big Eddie Hall fan? Right, it's doing the

2755
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 11: math Oh is he doing skits and bits?

2756
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 2: Oh? No, look, we'll have to see. Uh is this art, Luke?

2757
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:53,640
Speaker 2: Or we are?

2758
01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:00,160
Speaker 5: Okay, dude, Instagram humor is always bad. Let's see how

2759
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 5: bad it is.

2760
02:00:02,440 --> 02:00:10,920
Speaker 10: It looks pretty bad from here. I mean this is

2761
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 10: someone's parents, it's on brand, Luke. Okay, this is someone's parent.

2762
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:19,640
Speaker 2: There you go. Well, Luke, that wouldn't been the only

2763
02:00:19,880 --> 02:00:22,120
Speaker 2: time we've had dix in the wild this week, hidden

2764
02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:24,200
Speaker 2: in plain sight, like those you know, like you ever

2765
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,320
Speaker 2: go to Disney World. They've got those Mickey's, those like

2766
02:00:26,520 --> 02:00:29,520
Speaker 2: hiding in like the wallpaper design, the hidden Mickey's. Luke,

2767
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:33,720
Speaker 2: we got hidden dicks in the wild? You ready? Google

2768
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:44,360
Speaker 2: Images showed us that Epstein Islands still active, Luke, Luke,

2769
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,000
Speaker 2: They've also got hidden live dicks at your local Walmart

2770
02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:49,720
Speaker 2: grocer's freezer. Did you see this video making the rounds?

2771
02:00:51,600 --> 02:01:01,480
Speaker 2: What the fuck? Luke? Hot days got a stay chilled?

2772
02:01:01,560 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying,

2773
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:08,520
Speaker 2: Pull it up? No, No, I don't think we're gonna

2774
02:01:08,520 --> 02:01:18,000
Speaker 2: lose our sponsors, Luke. Is that Jacob? What grocery store

2775
02:01:18,080 --> 02:01:19,280
Speaker 2: is this? I need to make it out next time

2776
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm in Puerto Ricano. Do you remember that scene in

2777
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 2: Boys in the Hood when they're like, can you drive stick?

2778
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:28,520
Speaker 2: I can learn this is really what they were talking about. Okay,

2779
02:01:29,880 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 2: all right, well this is the worst part. I mean,

2780
02:01:32,280 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 2: you know, put that ship into drive, right, Luke, just

2781
02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:39,240
Speaker 2: crash the squall? Okay, Hey, let's go to a parade

2782
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:42,840
Speaker 2: they had in Japan last week. Luke the Raid should

2783
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 2: write a song about this called Dixon Parade. You know

2784
02:01:50,520 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 2: your thoughts? What the fuck is the story?

2785
02:01:57,000 --> 02:01:59,280
Speaker 4: The story morning Glory? I don't know, Luke.

2786
02:02:00,800 --> 02:02:03,600
Speaker 2: All hail right. Maybe maybe they got a visit from Rocco.

2787
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:09,080
Speaker 2: Are these I don't Hey, let's go to the barber

2788
02:02:09,120 --> 02:02:11,120
Speaker 2: I don't understand what the fuck I'm looking at. You know,

2789
02:02:11,240 --> 02:02:13,880
Speaker 2: kids haircuts these days are wildly out of control.

2790
02:02:15,120 --> 02:02:17,800
Speaker 8: Wow, man, someone's parent litens this motherfucker down.

2791
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:20,800
Speaker 2: Man, what a dickhead?

2792
02:02:20,880 --> 02:02:21,000
Speaker 3: Right?

2793
02:02:21,120 --> 02:02:22,040
Speaker 2: Look, you know what I mean?

2794
02:02:24,480 --> 02:02:24,560
Speaker 3: Bro?

2795
02:02:24,680 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 5: You can just tell you can just look around, like,

2796
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 5: where are they? They're in fucking somewhere in South America?

2797
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:33,080
Speaker 2: You know. Wow, this makes me hungry. Let's order out.

2798
02:02:33,120 --> 02:02:36,320
Speaker 2: How about a pizza? Sounds like Brazil.

2799
02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:41,680
Speaker 8: Dude, So ma of you motherfuckers need to stop making.

2800
02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 2: Dick pizzas they got shafted on the amount of pepperoni there, right, Luke, Wow,

2801
02:02:45,840 --> 02:02:48,280
Speaker 2: that's that's what's wild. All right? Hey, I got you,

2802
02:02:48,600 --> 02:02:51,920
Speaker 2: I said I wanted. I got you a new coffee

2803
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 2: mug for Christmas? You a dick? Yeah, Luke, this is great.

2804
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:58,200
Speaker 2: This is just all right. Let's get out of here. Hey. Look,

2805
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:00,960
Speaker 2: you know how we always debate on meg You know,

2806
02:03:01,080 --> 02:03:03,720
Speaker 2: we always debate whether it's like bator fade or like

2807
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:07,680
Speaker 2: is it air hair or ear? Here? It's neither. Here's

2808
02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:10,760
Speaker 2: the Guinness World record holder for the longest ear here.

2809
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:14,680
Speaker 2: My man, this is not an achievement. She's just poor

2810
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 2: hygiene or one man, it's not achievement. What do you

2811
02:03:19,760 --> 02:03:21,200
Speaker 2: think you could find with a c tip in there?

2812
02:03:21,200 --> 02:03:23,840
Speaker 2: Here's what I do, blow this blow. I think they

2813
02:03:23,880 --> 02:03:27,440
Speaker 2: have missing children in that. Look? Why is this motherfucker's

2814
02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:33,760
Speaker 2: mustache quafft and his eyebrows? I could fucking bungee jump

2815
02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:37,160
Speaker 2: from Are you suggesting that the airs don't match the carpet?

2816
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:37,680
Speaker 2: Like BC?

2817
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 5: I need to get my kid a fucking sweater for Christmas?

2818
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:43,200
Speaker 5: Can we shave this motherfucker's eyebrows and knit one?

2819
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:45,880
Speaker 2: This makes me you know what you remember you ever

2820
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:47,440
Speaker 2: go to Big Y and if you got good service,

2821
02:03:47,480 --> 02:03:48,760
Speaker 2: you can ring that bell on the way out.

2822
02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 4: And then like it got so obnoxious they got rid

2823
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 4: of it.

2824
02:03:50,480 --> 02:03:51,880
Speaker 2: You know what he needs? You know what he needs?

2825
02:03:52,200 --> 02:03:54,560
Speaker 5: Change that shirt and just if you're just gonna live

2826
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 5: like this, just at all times, you need to be

2827
02:03:57,280 --> 02:03:59,240
Speaker 5: wearing a shirt that says I fuck on the first day.

2828
02:03:59,320 --> 02:04:03,240
Speaker 2: Wow Wow, All right, well, Luke, I hope our viewers

2829
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:05,400
Speaker 2: ring their bells, ring their bell like this when they

2830
02:04:05,480 --> 02:04:07,720
Speaker 2: get good service from NK, when they like enjoy a

2831
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:10,040
Speaker 2: good episode. Here's what happened at the Texas Tech game.

2832
02:04:10,080 --> 02:04:13,360
Speaker 2: Your thoughts all right, P Mike Leach Luke, Well, Texas Tech.

2833
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:18,440
Speaker 2: He's very excitable, that young man, Luke. Right, you know,

2834
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:20,720
Speaker 2: I mean they didn't do my guy any favors. But

2835
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:24,040
Speaker 2: this camera, Oh wow, I didn't know we could show

2836
02:04:24,080 --> 02:04:27,760
Speaker 2: this one in Texas Tech. We just masturbate on the sidelines. Hey, Luke,

2837
02:04:27,800 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 2: we all.

2838
02:04:28,080 --> 02:04:29,879
Speaker 4: Remember the first time we got Lucky in the backseat

2839
02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:30,520
Speaker 4: of our first car.

2840
02:04:30,680 --> 02:04:34,640
Speaker 2: Right, I actually do did your car for a nickname? Uh?

2841
02:04:34,960 --> 02:04:42,840
Speaker 2: It does? I mean, this one's right to the point.

2842
02:04:42,920 --> 02:04:48,080
Speaker 2: You know, you get hands on in there. You know. Oh, well,

2843
02:04:48,160 --> 02:04:50,160
Speaker 2: you know what's not a base for slide and Luke,

2844
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 2: this is okay. I don't know what job this guy has,

2845
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:56,280
Speaker 2: but he doesn't show a long time kind of collegists possibly. Look,

2846
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:58,120
Speaker 2: I mean, well, imagine if your kind of collegists had

2847
02:04:58,160 --> 02:05:02,040
Speaker 2: this car where that's sticker on it. Wow. Finally, Luke,

2848
02:05:02,120 --> 02:05:05,120
Speaker 2: let's just get high. Uh. Check out this extreme bong

2849
02:05:05,200 --> 02:05:07,640
Speaker 2: ship here. Could you survive this, Luke? That's my question.

2850
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:11,600
Speaker 5: Holy we got eight bowls of flower in here, one

2851
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:13,320
Speaker 5: alien tach banger in the middle.

2852
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:14,400
Speaker 2: We're going in.

2853
02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:17,960
Speaker 8: How many classes has this kid failed?

2854
02:05:19,200 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 2: I think he's a genius. Look at this contraption. You

2855
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:23,720
Speaker 2: could not survive what he's going through right now. Watch

2856
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,280
Speaker 2: this a little bit of daviage. Now he's going after it.

2857
02:05:26,360 --> 02:05:29,400
Speaker 2: Now he's getting in it, got the dog and him.

2858
02:05:29,440 --> 02:05:50,560
Speaker 2: This guy, Oh, he's good, he's good. He's good.

2859
02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:54,800
Speaker 5: He's either I think it's either Crowbar or the band down.

2860
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 5: They have a song called bury Me and smoke. Yes

2861
02:05:57,680 --> 02:05:58,480
Speaker 5: you can do that for me?

2862
02:05:58,680 --> 02:06:01,480
Speaker 2: Well, Luke. Uh, this one goes out to mister T

2863
02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 2: wherever he is, Luke, to infinity and beyond. This is

2864
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:10,040
Speaker 2: Middle America checking in for T. Yeah, joy to aminity

2865
02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:14,360
Speaker 2: and beyond just desecrating the American flag. Fuck it.

2866
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:16,760
Speaker 8: Look at Osama bin Laden here. Fuck this asshole.

2867
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:23,920
Speaker 2: I think.

2868
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:26,600
Speaker 5: I think my favorite part about this is not only

2869
02:06:26,640 --> 02:06:28,920
Speaker 5: that they're doing it, but that they had to steal

2870
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,200
Speaker 5: from a home depot.

2871
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:38,280
Speaker 2: And make the ship okay, low key. They kind of genius. Yeah, Jake,

2872
02:06:43,000 --> 02:06:44,480
Speaker 2: is that brace Mitchell? After the last?

2873
02:06:44,640 --> 02:06:46,320
Speaker 5: People people are like, people are like what happened to

2874
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:47,280
Speaker 5: American Empire?

2875
02:06:48,520 --> 02:06:51,280
Speaker 2: Finally, Luke, I love it when a homeless guy keeps

2876
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:54,040
Speaker 2: it one hondo. You know what I'm saying. Just tell

2877
02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:59,280
Speaker 2: the truth, don't we? All right? I need a miracle

2878
02:06:59,320 --> 02:06:59,680
Speaker 2: every day.

2879
02:06:59,760 --> 02:07:01,760
Speaker 8: Luke, got a knee brace on too.

2880
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:09,040
Speaker 2: You have suck some d for weeks. No, all right,

2881
02:07:09,440 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 2: rip Bob Saget. That's the ship, allreez. That's Florida, dude.

2882
02:07:12,560 --> 02:07:14,240
Speaker 2: The Florida homeless are different.

2883
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:17,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I remember the homeless and like the Phoenix,

2884
02:07:17,280 --> 02:07:19,720
Speaker 5: they were all like covered in soot or something. Yeah,

2885
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:21,320
Speaker 5: they were was like, I was like, why are all

2886
02:07:21,360 --> 02:07:24,520
Speaker 5: the homeless in Phoenix like chimney sweets like dune?

2887
02:07:24,920 --> 02:07:27,000
Speaker 2: They get so much access to the spice that their

2888
02:07:27,040 --> 02:07:29,040
Speaker 2: eyes turned blue and they're like you know, it's like that.

2889
02:07:29,960 --> 02:07:31,720
Speaker 8: How many times did you watch Dune over the weekend?

2890
02:07:31,760 --> 02:07:33,600
Speaker 2: A bunch of times? But I need to watch it again.

2891
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:35,240
Speaker 2: I need to watch it. What did I see?

2892
02:07:35,280 --> 02:07:35,400
Speaker 3: Oh?

2893
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:38,480
Speaker 2: Oh oh? Is Snyder here? I didn't get? Yeah? Yeah, okay,

2894
02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:40,400
Speaker 2: Daniel Snyder's nephew, Dan nephew.

2895
02:07:40,960 --> 02:07:43,480
Speaker 8: I started White Lotus on HBO Max.

2896
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was trying to text you about Live Short

2897
02:07:45,320 --> 02:07:47,680
Speaker 2: Time Box and you're like watching Live White Lotus.

2898
02:07:47,960 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 5: Dude, White Lotus is as good as people say it is. Uh,

2899
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:55,760
Speaker 5: I'm only four episodes in. It's awesome.

2900
02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:56,640
Speaker 8: It's awesome.

2901
02:07:56,640 --> 02:07:58,240
Speaker 2: A lot of man ass though, I will tell you

2902
02:07:58,320 --> 02:07:59,720
Speaker 2: that a lot of man balls and a lot of

2903
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:01,320
Speaker 2: man as that I wasn't prepared for.

2904
02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,480
Speaker 5: But short of that's what's happening in the show is

2905
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 5: fucking awesome.

2906
02:08:05,560 --> 02:08:06,800
Speaker 2: You know what I made my family watch with me

2907
02:08:06,920 --> 02:08:07,320
Speaker 2: last night.

2908
02:08:07,440 --> 02:08:08,480
Speaker 8: It's a pornography.

2909
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:12,320
Speaker 2: It's a family tradition. My favorite Christmas movie, hardcore pornography,

2910
02:08:12,600 --> 02:08:15,440
Speaker 2: Holiday and Handcuffs with Ac Slater and Sabrina the Teenage.

2911
02:08:15,480 --> 02:08:17,320
Speaker 2: Would you know it's a sleeper. It's a sleeper. What

2912
02:08:17,480 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 2: is okay?

2913
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:20,160
Speaker 5: When you guys you put it for tree and everything, right, yeah,

2914
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:23,720
Speaker 5: how okay, how soon after Thanksgiving does the tree go

2915
02:08:23,840 --> 02:08:24,839
Speaker 5: up in the Campbell household.

2916
02:08:25,000 --> 02:08:28,160
Speaker 2: We have a rule because if left unattended, my wife

2917
02:08:28,200 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 2: would begin Christmas decorating like September first, probably so because

2918
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:34,880
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving is my favorite holiday, because I'm the one who

2919
02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:36,720
Speaker 2: physically has to, you know, bring all the things down

2920
02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:38,880
Speaker 2: from the garage attic up there and all that get

2921
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 2: on the ladder and risk my life. We have a

2922
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:43,720
Speaker 2: rule that the day after Thanksgiving, which is a week

2923
02:08:43,840 --> 02:08:47,120
Speaker 2: Friday for most people, we decorate all day the house,

2924
02:08:47,240 --> 02:08:47,960
Speaker 2: the tree all.

2925
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:51,160
Speaker 5: We did that Saturday. But okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right.

2926
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:53,320
Speaker 5: When you put up the tree, do you guys have

2927
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:54,600
Speaker 5: a little tradition beyond that?

2928
02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:57,720
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, nothing too serious in terms of like tradition.

2929
02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:00,320
Speaker 2: But you know, there's Christmas music playing, there's some hot coco,

2930
02:09:00,440 --> 02:09:02,320
Speaker 2: the cat cir we do the hot find in the

2931
02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:03,920
Speaker 2: tree like assholes and you gonna pull him out.

2932
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:05,320
Speaker 5: One of my wife's favorite movies is one of the

2933
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:06,560
Speaker 5: first one not the first ones, but one of the

2934
02:09:06,600 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 5: first comedies she liked when she moved to the States

2935
02:09:08,560 --> 02:09:09,040
Speaker 5: was Elf.

2936
02:09:09,520 --> 02:09:11,440
Speaker 2: Oh so we put on Elf, some hot cocoa, and

2937
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:13,680
Speaker 2: we have a guy that's my kid's favorite Christmas movie? Like, oh,

2938
02:09:13,840 --> 02:09:16,240
Speaker 2: without question, that's a did that movie holds up? It's not, dude,

2939
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:18,240
Speaker 2: it wasn't two thousand and three. It's almost twenty years

2940
02:09:18,240 --> 02:09:20,360
Speaker 2: old at this point, Where what will it get to

2941
02:09:20,440 --> 02:09:22,640
Speaker 2: the point where they Christmas story it where like you know,

2942
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:24,440
Speaker 2: they play at twenty four hours a day on every network,

2943
02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 2: you know, Like, I can never watch this again. I

2944
02:09:25,920 --> 02:09:28,800
Speaker 2: really can't loved it as a kid. Cannot ever watch

2945
02:09:28,880 --> 02:09:32,640
Speaker 2: it again. You've ruined this at TNT. You made drama, right, Uh?

2946
02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:35,680
Speaker 2: White Lotus is good. You should watch White Lotus all right?

2947
02:09:35,880 --> 02:09:40,680
Speaker 2: Do you think Paul the Trades? Uh? Do you think

2948
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:44,280
Speaker 2: he You think he consummates in the in the sequel?

2949
02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:46,960
Speaker 2: I mean he kind of had a vision about it already, right,

2950
02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:50,600
Speaker 2: he smashes. Does he consummate in the sequel? Well, I've

2951
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 2: not read the books? Does he? I don't know. But

2952
02:09:52,920 --> 02:09:54,280
Speaker 2: at the end of the first one, have you not

2953
02:09:54,360 --> 02:09:55,920
Speaker 2: read the book? I have not yet read the Boss.

2954
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 2: So there's there's already an online Uh. I think pool

2955
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 2: going of how many pages I'll read before quitting, But

2956
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:02,280
Speaker 2: I'm ready to go to the how long of the books?

2957
02:10:02,720 --> 02:10:04,760
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty long. It's so there's a lot

2958
02:10:04,800 --> 02:10:06,920
Speaker 2: of them. But the first one Luke Dune, the first

2959
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:10,240
Speaker 2: book cut from nineteen sixty five, Frank Kerbert. It covers

2960
02:10:10,680 --> 02:10:12,800
Speaker 2: the first Dune movie and the sequel that's coming out

2961
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:13,200
Speaker 2: next year.

2962
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 8: Oh okay, so the first two movies are actually one book,

2963
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:17,040
Speaker 8: the first book.

2964
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:18,680
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh that's it. I did not know that.

2965
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,160
Speaker 5: Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, dude, I like that movie. I

2966
02:10:21,240 --> 02:10:22,480
Speaker 5: don't hate on that movie at all. I have I

2967
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:23,120
Speaker 5: need to rewatch.

2968
02:10:23,160 --> 02:10:26,520
Speaker 2: Would you agree, though? It's what Star Wars should have.

2969
02:10:26,760 --> 02:10:29,560
Speaker 5: Yes, it's it's gritty Star Wars, but not like in

2970
02:10:29,640 --> 02:10:31,920
Speaker 5: a not like in a rogue one way, like in

2971
02:10:31,960 --> 02:10:34,320
Speaker 5: a real way. It's got a certain gravity to it,

2972
02:10:34,440 --> 02:10:36,720
Speaker 5: you know. Yeah, all right, Well that, by the way,

2973
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:38,640
Speaker 5: I can't believe you didn't show Jake Shields and Mike

2974
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 5: Jackson pummeling.

2975
02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:41,720
Speaker 4: Oh my, that's actually that's on me. That's that's just

2976
02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:42,320
Speaker 4: me forgetting that.

2977
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:45,040
Speaker 2: You forgot that. That was a fun little moment. We had.

2978
02:10:45,120 --> 02:10:47,520
Speaker 2: Others we had, we had dongs in the wild, we

2979
02:10:47,560 --> 02:10:49,360
Speaker 2: had to do. Yeah. He showed me a lot of cocks, yeah,

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Speaker 2: not so much a lot of fighting, But all right,

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 5: For us a reminder showtown dot com at the label

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Speaker 5: that pays showtime dot com get a thirty day free

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Speaker 5: tribe believe we also have there. It is three a

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Speaker 5: month for your first six months thereafter.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's a deal.

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Speaker 5: You can get a whole bunch of stuff. By the way,

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Speaker 5: next week we'll have a Belatoor event Beltour versus Rising.

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Speaker 5: So MMA is not done for the year just yet,

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Speaker 5: so that'll be that. What else b see the store

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Speaker 5: Morningcombat dot store. You can get I think this shirt.

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Speaker 5: You can get BC's shirt. You can get a lot

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Speaker 5: of cool stuff that there's that. You can go morning

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Speaker 5: Combat at gmail dot com to email the show. Let's

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Speaker 5: remind folks, Feb eighth, Feb eighth, we're gonna be in London, live,

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Speaker 5: live London show. Get your tics, Tell your friends.

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Speaker 2: There's only five hundred of these tickets. So I know

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Speaker 2: it sounds like, oh, you know, these washed donks will

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Speaker 2: be lucky to fill it up. We're gonna fill this

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Speaker 2: shit up. There's gonna be some special guests. If you're

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Speaker 2: on the fence about coming, I wouldn't trust the amount

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Speaker 2: of tickets left. Look, I'd go after it. You know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying I get out, get it. I don't

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Speaker 2: know how many of these UK shows we're ever going

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Speaker 2: to do, so this might be a one and week.

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Speaker 4: We might get deported as soon as we the first

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Speaker 4: joke lands.

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Speaker 8: Well, wambam, thank you ma'am. Yeah, show up?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So there's that anything else? So I think that's

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Speaker 2: it right, I should eat fish and chips on stage

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Speaker 2: during the event. Oh that's a little bit I called racist,

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Speaker 2: but it's more just ignorant.

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Speaker 8: By the way, Also, fish and chips.

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Speaker 2: Don't say anything bad about fish and chips.

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Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with fish and chips when I don't

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Speaker 5: think that that's like the we think that that's classic

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Speaker 5: English food and maybe it is stupid. No, you have

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Speaker 5: you had bangers in mash?

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Speaker 2: No, so what are bangers?

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Speaker 8: Sausages basically sausage and then mashed potatoes.

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Speaker 2: I had.

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Speaker 5: My brother took me to a place that had duck

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Speaker 5: bangers when he lit. My brother lives in London for

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Speaker 5: four years.

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Speaker 2: He took me around. It was amazing. It was amazing.

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Speaker 2: But the rest of the food in London, that marine

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Speaker 2: train you almost jumped down a lot of bangers and

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Speaker 2: mash going on the area. No I mashed some bangers,

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Speaker 2: if you know what I'm saying. All Right, that is

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Speaker 2: it for us here today.

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Speaker 5: We are going to record some of the stuff for

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Speaker 5: you guys a little bit later, but that we're done

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Speaker 5: for today's programming. Sorry for being late, blame Amtrak, and

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Speaker 5: you got some entertainment the same. So that is Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 5: I'm Luke Thomas, thanks to Malka, thanks to Showtime, thanks

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Speaker 5: to CBS Sports. We'll catch you guys on Wednesday, and

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Speaker 5: until then, may all of your gains be loyal.