1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle. Let's go 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: on Giants dot Com and the Giants Mobile the Giants 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Welcome to the news edition of the Giants 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Huddle podcast, John Smoke with you. It's our game preview, 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: featuring three interviews. I talked to Giants offensive tackle Nate Soldier. 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: It's not only about the Giants offense, but also about 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: his time playing with Tom Brady in New England. John 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Ledyard from the Pewter Report joins Paul Latino a Lance 9 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: Meado to preview the Bucks, and then I talked to 10 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: Giants said coach Joe. As a reminder, the John Suttle 11 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: podcast can be found on all your favorite podcast platforms. 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: On the Giants Mobile app and on all your favorite 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: podcast platforms. Find the subscribe for an Apple podcast. Please 14 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: have a five star positive review if you like what 15 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: you hear, and if your friends are a Giant fans 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: you think might enjoy the podcast, make sure you tell 17 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: him to go check it out. All right, let's start 18 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: with our player interview. Nate Soldier joins me to talk 19 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,639 Speaker 1: about the Bucks and it's time with Tom Brady. Nate. 20 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Let's start here. Thank you, how is the bid we 21 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: have the guys come back in practice this week. Yeah, 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: we had some good practices. Um, we got a couple 23 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: more days to prepare and get ready and it's gonna 24 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: be a tough opponent on Monday night. What do you 25 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: think the offensive line is now? You know, you guys 26 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: had to think a different starting line up every game 27 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: for the first seven eight weeks of the year, and 28 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: it seems to have settled in a little bit here. 29 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: We'll talk about Andrew in a second. Do you feel 30 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: like the chemistry has gotten continually better over the year 31 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: as you guys have played together more. Well, I hate 32 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: to make some reassessments, but I think we're trending in 33 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: a good direction. I think we need to continue to 34 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: work hard at that because that then't just come by 35 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: luck or or anything else like that. We have to focus. 36 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: We had to continue to work hard every day to 37 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: keep improving. You know, I throught that word chemistry like 38 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: it's a catch all. When I say chemistry, what does 39 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: that mean to you as a guy that's actually doing 40 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: it well? You have to see the game through the 41 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,279 Speaker 1: same set of eyes. So the way that the guards 42 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: in the center sees it, the same way the tackle 43 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: sees it in the same way the quarterback season. We 44 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: all kind of work together as one unit to get 45 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: her job done, and that's pre end post snap, right, 46 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: That's right. Oh yeah, post snap is just as important 47 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: because we're reacting to movement where blitz is. All those 48 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: sort of things are constantly happening. Anything you personally to 49 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: buy look back at and said, after you looked at 50 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: the first seven eight weeks of film, I know the 51 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: coaches kind of go to each player say, I want 52 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: you to assess this, reassess that that you looked at 53 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: your tape and said, you know what, these are things 54 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: that I kind of want to hit on that I 55 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: think I've either done well or things I want to 56 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 1: try to do a little bit better in the second 57 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: half of the year. Well, I didn't put on pads 58 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: for a whole year last year, So I think just 59 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: that the conditioning, the the adjustment and all that stuff 60 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: takes time, and so I think I'm gonna continue to 61 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: work at that and continue getting better in that it. 62 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: What do you think now that you've been doing it. 63 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: What has been the biggest challenge you're trying to come 64 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: back after not playing last year? Um, I think I've 65 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: gotten over some of those hurdles. That was like, oh gosh, 66 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: I have to put on a helmet. Oh gosh, my 67 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: coaches are yelling at me again, you know, like some 68 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: of the just basic human element things. And you said 69 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:48,119 Speaker 1: yelling at my kids. Most grown people in this world 70 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: don't get yelled at like you're doing the football arena, 71 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: you know. So, um, some of those things really adjustment. 72 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: But um, but it's been great. It's been a great 73 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to have this bag. How much was it putting 74 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: on the weight again, I know you dropped a lot 75 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 1: of weight in the offseason. You know, no one's you know, 76 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: eating four thousand calories and you know, doing crazy bench 77 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: presses and squats and all that stuff every day. How 78 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: much of it was that to kind of gain back 79 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: that same level of strength you had before you took 80 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: that year off. Well, it's been an adjustment. And continue 81 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: to work at it. You know, it's never a finished product, 82 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: so you keep working. And uh, I'm in the weight 83 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: room three times a week still and trying to gain 84 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: weight and do everything I can to do the best 85 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: I can with that. What would it do for you, guys? 86 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: If you have Andrew Thomas back on the field on 87 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: Monday night. Well, he's obviously very talented and a crucial 88 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: part of our team, so getting him worked in there 89 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: and playing at a high level is the ideal goal here. 90 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Now you've been around great offensive lineman. What's the ceiling like? 91 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: Can he be as good as anyone in the league 92 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: a tackle? Well? I sure hope. So. I mean there's 93 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: so many factors out of our control with that, you know, 94 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: um so um as he's got the right mentality. He's 95 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: a smart guy's a talented guy. So I just wish 96 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: the best form and all that. We had Matt Parrott 97 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: in here doing this interview a few weeks ago, and 98 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: he talked to me about how even though you guys 99 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: were competing in the off season, you did everything you 100 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: can to try to mentor him, teach him, make him 101 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: a better player. Where have you seen Matt grow and 102 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: improve throughout the year. Well, that's a big reason for 103 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: it me to be here. Um I've gained some experience, 104 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: but most of all, I just want to give some 105 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: guys perspective and insight on life. Um. I think football 106 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: is great, but it's also temporary. So if I could 107 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: just love on these guys and build true, genuine relationships 108 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: that aren't about performance, that aren't about what I can 109 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: get from one of these guys. Um. I think that's valuable. 110 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: I think that could really help them be good players, 111 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: but also just lead them as men to We talked 112 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: about you personally, now I'm just talking the offensive line 113 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: as a unit. Where do you think you guys need 114 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: to improve on a micro level to be more consistent 115 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: past protectors on a macro level? If you know what 116 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, Well, if you listen to everyone outside 117 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: of this building, it's it's kind of up and down, 118 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: up and down, up and down, um, Because there's a 119 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: lot of people that think because you have one good 120 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: play that dictates everything that you do, or if you 121 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: have one bad play that dictates everything that you do. 122 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Of course, so we have good plays and we have 123 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: bad plays. We need to minimize the bad plays, maximize 124 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: the good plays, continue to improve and that every day 125 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: at practice, every day in our drills, everything that we 126 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: do has to be the best that we can do it. 127 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: And that is one part, right, winning your individual battles, 128 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: but also two parts doing everything together, being in sync 129 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: with your quarterback. You're running backs, your tight ends, and 130 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of all that together. Can you explain how 131 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: all that kind of comes together on a play by 132 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: play basis? Yeah. Sure, there's times where you have to 133 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: be on an island and you're gonna be against one 134 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: of their best bass rushers and there's nothing else you 135 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: can do about it. But there's other times where you're 136 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: gonna have help from the guard. You can have help 137 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: from a tight end, you cant have help, and you 138 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: need to know and communicate and trust those guys to 139 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: be able to do that. It's funny. I've seen sometimes 140 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: offensive tackles they have a chip from a running back 141 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: or a tight end, and sometimes I see it almost 142 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: mess them up and they change what they're doing and 143 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: then it almost messes up their technique a little bit. Right, 144 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 1: That's right. That's all the process of getting on the 145 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: same page, seeing the game through the same set of eyes, 146 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: knowing what to expect from your teammates. Same deal with 147 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: the running game. When you take a look at how 148 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: you guys have run blocked this year, what do you 149 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: need to continue to get better at to improve to 150 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: just can to you to make that running game more consistent? Yeah, Well, 151 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: consistency is the key with the run game. If you 152 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: can get four or five six yards every time you 153 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: run the ball, you gotta deadly offense. So if we 154 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: can get that and we can minimize the negative plays 155 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: and continue to, like you keep saying, working together, I 156 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: think that's the key to that. How much is getting 157 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: say Quon back, Maybe change the formula is the wrong phrasing, 158 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: but make things a little bit different in terms of 159 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: how explosive you can be and almost how you block 160 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: some of these plays up, because I feel like him 161 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: and Davante have very different styles. Yeah, well, we can't 162 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: change the way we block things up. But he does 163 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: have that big play potential in any given play, and 164 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: he he makes those things happen. I mean, that's not 165 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: something you can predict or or almost expect on every 166 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: given play, but he's gonna do it at some point. 167 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: Do you guys feel more comfortable right now doing a 168 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: lot of the zone outside stuff where you more comfortable 169 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: really trying to go downhill and and use your power. Yeah, 170 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: whatever they call and whatever they draw up, we're gonna 171 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: execute it to the highest of our ability. And that's 172 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: for sure. All right, Let's talk about the tamp Bay Buccaneers. 173 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: Then what makes their run d been so tough? Their 174 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: ranks second and run categories, yards, yards, were play and 175 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Well, you got some veteran players that 176 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: know what they're doing, a big, strong, physical group, UM. 177 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: And then I think Todd Bowles, he puts together a 178 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: great scheme. I know, playing against the Jets for all 179 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: those years, it was tough to run the ball against 180 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: those guys, and I think that's an emphasis for them, 181 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: and they do a good job of doing it. And 182 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: then how do you go about trying to identify all 183 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: the different types of blitz is that they send to 184 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: make sure you guys are on the same page to 185 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: handle those well. And they do something different every week too, 186 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: So you can't, um guess what they're gonna do. You 187 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: have to be a go out there, execute your rules, UM, 188 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: and keep your eyes open and be vigilant to what 189 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna do on that given day. How about their 190 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: perimeter rushers, they're both very good, obviously, Jason p Are Paul, 191 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: you're very familiar with Um. Jack Barrett both very good, 192 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: but they're also different types of rushers and how they 193 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: go about their business, right, Yeah, they're different. They're built differently, 194 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: but the things that they are similar. They get off 195 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: the ball fast, they're quick. Um, they play hard, they 196 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: play long into the play count, and they're not they're 197 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: not stopping, you know. And um, they're both talented. They're 198 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: both very natural at getting to the quarterback and so 199 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: it's a really challenging, um thing for us to do. 200 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: All right, final topic, Tom Brady, you're around them for 201 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: a really long time, you see him operate. What is 202 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: it that separates him from everybody else that makes him special? Well, 203 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: I think Tom would agree with this. There's a lot 204 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: of things that he can't do, but he has been 205 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: excellent at the things he can do. And I think 206 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: that's um something we can all learn from. You know, 207 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: we can't do everything, but be good at the things 208 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: we can do, and he does that to a high, 209 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: high level. And he was a great teammate. I'm thankful 210 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: for the friendship and everything that we have. So I'm 211 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing him again. How does he help 212 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: protection and an offensive line? Just getting rid of the 213 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: ball quickly is one obviously, but everything else that he 214 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: does too well and and uh, just like Daniel, he 215 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: knows where the pressure is he knows where the weak 216 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: spots are, and then he's gonna know he's gonna be 217 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: able to break down the coverages, and and so you 218 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: always feel like you have a step ahead on those 219 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: sort of things. He seems so patient, like he's just willing, 220 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: Like if you're gonna give him five yard passes, he's 221 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: just gonna go, all right, fine, pink pink, pink, pink, pink, 222 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: pink pink. Like you just can't seem to force him 223 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: into things he's uncomfortable doing. He's just willing to to 224 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: take what the defense gives him, right, Yeah, Yeah, And 225 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: I think that that's probably been instilled from the number 226 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 1: of years he's played. Um, he sees the ups and 227 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: downs of any given game, and he knows how to 228 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: win those games. Nate, it was always pleasure talking to you. 229 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for talking to you. That's Giants offensive 230 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: tackle Nate Solder. The delta varian is spreading quickly in 231 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: all areas of New York State. People who are not 232 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated or greater risk from COVID nineteen Protect yourself, 233 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: get vaccinated, visit n Y dot gov slash get vaccinated, 234 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: or talk to your healthcare provider. All right now, let's 235 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: get inside look at the Giants opponent on Monday Night Football, 236 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. John Ledyard from the Peter Report 237 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: joins Paulatino and Lance Meddal. Giants are coming off there 238 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: bye week. First up is a trip to Tampa if 239 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: is it The six and three Bucks, who are at 240 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: first place in the NFC South and to get more 241 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: into Tampa Bay were now joined by John Ledyard, who 242 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: covers the team for com Pewter Report. John, you got 243 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: Lance Meadow and Paul the Tino here. Greatly appreciate the 244 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: time today. Hope Paul as well, has everything on your head. 245 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: Everything's going great. If the Bucks are winning again, it 246 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: will be even better. But this just feels weird. I mean, 247 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: for a while there they weren't losing at all, and 248 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: now they've lost their last two games, and with the 249 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: bye weekend between they have a one for like a month, 250 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: so it'll go a lot better to get a victory. Well, 251 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: let's get right into that. I'm glad you brought that 252 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: point up, because you look at the numbers, John, In 253 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: the first seven games they had a plus seven turnover differential. 254 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: These last two games it's minus four Brady's got five 255 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: turnovers and they also have seventeen penalties in the last 256 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: two games. Now, I know those things are synonymous with 257 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: wins and losses, but the fact that you've been watching 258 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,959 Speaker 1: these games close, how fair is it to say that 259 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: the turnovers and the penalties have been the key factor 260 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: as to why they've been on the wrong end of 261 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: these last two games. Yeah, for sure, no question. With 262 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: the Saints game, I mean that was it was obvious, 263 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: you know, the amount of penalties, the way the turnovers happened, 264 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: especially you know, you're talking about the first interception clear 265 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: hold on Chris Godwin uncalled and because he couldn't get 266 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: to where he was supposed to be on his route, 267 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: fast is intercepted. You know it it's little bit of 268 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: a no call, and that would have given the Bucks. 269 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: It was kind of like a flip the whole game 270 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: in some ways, because the Bucks were driving to score 271 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: and they would have been deep in Saint characters, So 272 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: that one really changed things. And then yeah, that late 273 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: in the game, obviously, that turnover, you know it happened 274 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: on the last drive for the Bucks, was it was 275 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: the killer. But the penalties in between, I mean literally 276 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: gifted the Saints so many yards on a day where 277 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: they were just average and moving the football probably better 278 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: and they should have been with Trevor Simeon, but still, 279 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, not not great necessarily, they didn't really run 280 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: the ball that well, and so it was it was, 281 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 1: I mean, penalties just defensively, we're just absolutely brutal. Then 282 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: the Washington game, penalties were a factor in the first half, 283 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: as were four drop passes, um as were some leaky 284 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: protection issues, but it went beyond that in the Washington game. 285 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: The Saints game was like, okay, this was literally everything 286 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: you could do wrong, and then you were still here 287 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: at the end against one of the best defenses in 288 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: the league, still were able to rally back through five 289 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: yard you know, just it was really still a productive 290 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: day offensively, it was just those mistakes. But the Washington game, 291 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: they just played horrible. I mean both sides of the football. 292 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: Almost every player on the team on focus. The penalties 293 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: were in issues, drops were in issues, especially the first half, 294 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: but even the second half it wasn't clean. Um you know, 295 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: it was that the ten and a half minute drive 296 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: to end the game by Washington. I know, there's some 297 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: injuries for the Bucks defense. But come on, I mean, 298 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: that was that kind of stuff. I don't think I've 299 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: seen him actually play like that, even going back to 300 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: that Bears game last year. You know, that game was 301 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: so unlucky. There were so many bad calls and and 302 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: there was a lot of injuries that they had more 303 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: than this game going into it, and so this I 304 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: just think it was a Thursday night game. This was 305 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: just this is probably the worst game I've seen the 306 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: Bucks play, especially considering the level of competition. John. Before 307 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: we get to the injury list, and I know there 308 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: are some significant ones that we do want to discuss. 309 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: Let me go to Bruce Arians for a minute, who's 310 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: very colorful. We all know that the media loves this 311 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: guy because he always gives us something to talk about. 312 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: But I'm curious to how you think his locker room 313 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: is reacting to being called a very dumb football team 314 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: and being told that the stupidity has to go away. 315 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: I think they I mean, you know, you don't really 316 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: have to worry about that with the Bucks, which is 317 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: the best part. You know there, it's probably one of 318 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: the strongest locker rooms in the NFL. That was probably 319 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: true before they won the Super Bowl. Honestly, they had 320 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: a lot of the right guys that placed even before 321 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: Brady got there, and once Brady was there, you know 322 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: that the standard obviously changed and got even higher at 323 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: that point. So yet, to me, no question that this 324 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: is a group that's going to stay focused, keep working hard, 325 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: you know all the above. You know, they respect the 326 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: heck out of areas. I don't think there's any issues 327 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: in that regard, you know. But yeah, I mean, when 328 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: you won a Super Bowl and you've been, you know, 329 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: touted as a team that could win it again and 330 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: has one of the best chances of winning again and 331 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: then establishing that kind of a run for a franchise, 332 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: and you lose two games, and now if it became 333 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: more games, you know, yeah, you start to wonder how 334 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: some young guys who are also dubbed as leaders in 335 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: the locker room will handle that. And so there's but 336 00:13:58,000 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: right now, at this point in time, yeah, there's no 337 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: concerns within the Bucks in terms of culture. It's really 338 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: strong from that regard. John Paul talked about injuries. I 339 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: want to go there and focus specifically on the ones 340 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. An Tonio Brown 341 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: has been sidelined the last few games. Gronkowski looks like 342 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: he could return as we're taping this. He's been a 343 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: full participant in practice. They haven't really been utilizing Cameron 344 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: Braden o J. Howard much in the passing games. So 345 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: the potential return of Gronk, what type of an impact 346 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: do you see in that and how have they made 347 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: up for the loss of a b Yeah, I think 348 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: the potential return of Grown could be really big. You know. 349 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: The biggest thing, honestly is cam Brad and O J. 350 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Howard are not very good blockers, and the Bucks insist 351 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: on running the football is usually two tight ends on 352 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: the field, so it makes the whole scheme worse when 353 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: those guys are out there run blocking UM. So that's 354 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: the frustrating part about it. Gronk will help in that 355 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: regard if he's helping Um as a receiver. This offense 356 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: runs through the whiteouts. But yeah, Ivan Grown is better 357 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: than having and Howard for sure, And you even saw 358 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: earlier in the season. You know, Gronk might be the 359 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: first tight end they kind of broke down, maybe other 360 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: than Heith Miller, but especially recent Bruce and Bruce areans 361 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: like he might be good enough to be the first 362 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: tide end and kind of broke down Bruce areas and 363 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: got the tight end involved in the passing game area 364 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: not really like the focal point was offense typically, but 365 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: with Gronk, I think that changes in the tight end 366 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: like that. So yeah, definitely, no question he's a He's 367 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: a's an added dimension for sure. Antonio Brown think is 368 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: much bigger because this team, you know, when they want 369 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: to be successful as a passing attack, they really need 370 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: to be able to throw the ball out of eleven 371 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: personnel with through wide receivers. And right now, Tyler Johnson 372 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: has been okay, Um, he's been fine, but I think 373 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: he's probably with this offense, it just requires you to 374 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: do so much as a wide receiver. I mean, look 375 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: everywhere Bruce arians has ever been, he's just stockpound wide out. 376 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: It's the most important position in his offense other than quarterback. 377 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: So he really needs wide receivers that can create separation 378 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: on a consistent basis, and Antonio Brown's all one of 379 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: the best ever to do that, and it just isn't 380 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: the case for Tyler john And you know, it's a 381 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: little bit more hit or miss. He's not a great athlete. 382 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: He's not that bigger, strong um, so there's physical and 383 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: athletic limitations with him. And he's still in a second year, 384 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: so there's some learning curve things. You know, first third 385 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: down of the game, Brady gets drilled, but he puts 386 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: a ball out there pretty perfectly for Kyler Johnson, and 387 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: instead of accelerating out of his break, he kind of 388 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: stretches way too early and tries to one hand the 389 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: ball instead of running through it. Little things like that, right, 390 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: Like Antonio Brown is maybe the best ever in terms 391 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: of instincts of the ladestier position. Johnson just kind of 392 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: lacking that a little bit. So he's been good. I 393 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: mean he's been good after the catch. He makes really 394 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: tough catches on a regular basically good ball skills, good hands, 395 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: but that extra little bit of separation and ability to 396 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: get open, especially when Mike Evans is running your vertical 397 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: routes and teams you're playing with the safety high and 398 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: trying to take away vertical plays, and you know, Chris 399 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: Godwin becomes your heavy volume guy and then he's he 400 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: wasn't last week. The wider Seer three issues get amplified. 401 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: So Joe Brown coming back is huge for the Bucks 402 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: offense in my opinion, John, Before we get to defense, 403 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: I've got they ask you about Leonard for Nett, who 404 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: seems to be running the ball rather effectively when he 405 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: gets a chance. And I think that's an important phrase 406 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: to utter, because the Bucks run the ball, if you were, 407 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: still the lowest percentage of any team in the National 408 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: Football League, because we all know that arians is that 409 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: no risk, it, no biscuit or whatever the heck he 410 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: likes to call it, and wants to throw the ball 411 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: down the field. So what are your impressions of their 412 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: run game? Do they need to be more patient with 413 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: it and utilize it more if they're going to get 414 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: back on track, No, not at all. You know that 415 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: the round mouth that they run is actually perfect. That 416 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: the big reason why they've been as successful as they've 417 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: been is that they don't waste a lot of players 418 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: trying to find a run game that's that's not never 419 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: gonna be there, And for you know what, thirty thirty 420 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: teams in the league, it's never going to be there 421 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: at that level. You know that a lot of other 422 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 1: teams waste a lot of plays trying to find a 423 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,199 Speaker 1: run game that's never going to equal the success of 424 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 1: even an adequate passing game in terms of their win 425 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: lost percentage. So the Bucks do a great job of 426 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: avoiding a ton of those plays. What they do only 427 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: with it, they call most of the runs on first downs, 428 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: and so they're the past heaviest team in the league 429 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: on second down. So what they need to do is 430 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: pass more on first down, and that will set them 431 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: up and get them in better position to run more 432 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: on second down. So it's not about passing more or 433 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: running more, or doing one of those things less to me. 434 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: It's more about doing it in better situations, you know. 435 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: And first down defenses are automatically kind of usually structured 436 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: and leaning towards running or run defense, depending on how 437 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: you come out as an offense with your personnel grouping. 438 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: So if you can find a way to play action 439 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: and throw on those downs, then on second downs, get 440 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: your so Okay, now you've got seven yards, just seven 441 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: yards on first down? Okay, now second and three, our 442 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: whole playbooks wide open, we could run it. Probably get 443 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: this first down. Bucks are average and four point three 444 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: yards per tempt the season at sixteenth in the NFL. 445 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: That's great for them. That's terrific efficiency for them. So 446 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: it's not about running it more for the Bucks, just 447 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: about better situations when you're running the football, less predictable situations. 448 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: When they're able to run in those spots, you know, 449 00:18:57,560 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: they can really gash teams they have. The scheme has 450 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: grim really diversified this year. They were just pretty much 451 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: a duo scheme team. And now they're out there pulling 452 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,920 Speaker 1: guys and run, encounter her and run and outside thow pits, 453 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: a crack toss and you know, there is all kinds 454 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: of elements are being added into the run scheme. Made 455 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: it really a lot harder to prepare for them, especially 456 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: when most teams spend a lot of time preparing to 457 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: stop their passing attacks. So the efficiency, the fact that 458 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: it's been better in the run game is key for 459 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: the Bucks. They don't need to run it more. They 460 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: just need to redistribute a couple of some of the 461 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: run pass things that they have going on and throw 462 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: more on first down, run more on second down. We're 463 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: talking with John Ledyard, who covers the Bucks for Repewter Report. John, 464 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: let's flip the script to the defensive side of the ball. 465 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: Speaking of the run pass balance, Bucks are number two 466 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: against the run, but twenty second against the past. And 467 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: I want to focus on the secondary because the injuries 468 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: came fast and furious at the beginning of the season. 469 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: Calton Davis. They lose Sean Murphy Bunting. I know he's 470 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: trying to work his way back. How much has the 471 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: loss of those two guys in particular impacted what Todd 472 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,360 Speaker 1: Bowles can do on the back end And how much 473 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: have they really been relying on sort of a game 474 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: of musical chairs back there because they brought in Richard Sherman, 475 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: he's hurt. There hasn't seemed been a lot of continuity 476 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: on the back end of this defense. How fair is that? Yeah, 477 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: I think that it has been tricky. The buck starting 478 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: secondary has not played a single snap together this season, 479 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: so that that's an issue. Definitely. The talent level has 480 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: obviously been somewhat of a drop off. Now on the 481 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,400 Speaker 1: flip side of it, they have played pretty pathetic passing 482 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: offenses for the last five six weeks. They really have 483 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: not played any great quarterbacks or great passing offenses or 484 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: anything like that, which has helped them. They actually are 485 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: coming out of Week three of the RAM game, they 486 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: were dead last in the NFL in past defense. Now, 487 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: part of that was the volume. They were just getting 488 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: thrown at an absurd amount. I mean, no one is 489 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: even really trying to run the ball against them. It 490 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: was ridiculous and and really still that's kind of the case. 491 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: He's definitely come back the other way a little bit. 492 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: Washington ran in a lot man very unsuccessfully. But they 493 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: ran in a lot I think the average like two 494 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: point four two point five yards per carry, but ran 495 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: it like thirty four times on designed runs. Um so, 496 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: they wasted. That was another crazy part of the Washington game. 497 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: They wasted so many plays and yet still were able 498 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: to be eleven of nineteen on third down. That just 499 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: does not happen very often. Bucks were really really bad 500 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: in those situations. Um So, yeah, it's definitely concerned. You 501 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 1: could see it in the Washington game too, like guy's 502 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: ability to cover. It was was definitely a reason for 503 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: a lot of completions down the field, not a lot 504 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: of guys with very good coverage skills. They also only 505 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: ran man coverage five times in the Washington games, So 506 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: it just shows you that they're trying to play in zone. 507 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: They're trying to keep everything in front of them. That's 508 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: always how bols has played, though, so I don't know 509 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: that he's changed a ton schematically, and I think he 510 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: would bury it up maybe a little bit more with 511 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: other guys. The biggest issue with the bucks past defense 512 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: is that they still are ascribed to spot dropping in 513 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: zone coverage most of the time and when they're in coverage, 514 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: and it makes life easy for opposing quarterbacks. You know, 515 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: everybody can figure out a spot dropping defense if you're 516 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: covered too. You know where you guys are gonna be 517 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: if they're just spot dropping every place. So the Bucks 518 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: were really need to do more pattern matching and more 519 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: basically manning up out of his own looks um depending 520 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: on how the routes are. I think that's been hard 521 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: for them to do because a lot of the injuries. 522 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: So I do think it will help some when they 523 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: get those guys back, But I don't think Carlton Davis 524 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: is gonna play this week. Shan Murfy Bun think probably 525 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: will play, but I don't know how much, or whether 526 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: he'll just play in the slot or whether it'll just 527 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 1: play outside. He's typically done both for the Bucks. I 528 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: don't know what that's gonna look like for him. But 529 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,959 Speaker 1: they are really down to just right now. I mean 530 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: there are three corners right now. I mean, if Seaun 531 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: murfy Bunding gets activated, he's one. If Bleedy Ray Wilson 532 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: comes up from the practice squad, he's another one. So 533 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: that would be their five. But they don't. I mean 534 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: they only have basically Ross Cockroll peer to see her 535 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: and Jamal Dean right now healthy and then Mike Edwards 536 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 1: actually stepped in from safety and played in the slot 537 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: most of last game. Cockroll was only played nine snaps, 538 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: so he may be your spot guy again. If you're 539 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: the Bucks, then you may. You will see how what 540 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: Sean murfy Bunding can do. I really don't know, but 541 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: they are kind of running out of bodies there and 542 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: it's definitely affecting things. All right, John, I know we're 543 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: running out of chime, So let me go to the 544 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: front seven. You've got you two edge guys in a 545 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: Barrett and at JPP. But JPP has been banged up. 546 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: Maybe the time line is finally starting to catch up 547 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: on him because the injuries have mounted a long ways 548 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: during the course of his career, and obviously David and White, 549 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: the two linebackers have been terrific. Vita Vey though now 550 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: missing because of that knee injury. So how about a 551 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: thumbnail capsule on that front seven. Yeah, I'd say that. Okay, 552 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: the Vey injury, it looks like you probably won't play 553 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: this week. Being my guest, We'll see, but probably not 554 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: this week and then maybe back the next week. But 555 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: this week it beat out. Now Here's the thing. They 556 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: lost Veil last year and it affected their pass or 557 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: some for a while, but the run defense remained number 558 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: one in the league throughout the rest of the season, 559 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: and they finished the year first in the NFLS too. 560 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: So they have guys who can stuff the run. Steve 561 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: mcclennan and rickiem news roach as dominance Will Golston. They're 562 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: they're still going to be good in that regard linebackers. 563 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, Lavante David has been banged up a little 564 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: bit this year. Hopefully the splash plays come back with him. 565 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: We saw the strips. A strip at the end of 566 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: the Washington game has a good sign for him. He's 567 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: been playing a little bit better recently, so we'll see. 568 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: Devin White has been a total seesaw this year. Is 569 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: anyone's guests. He could make the three worst players and 570 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: the three best game plays of the game for the 571 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: Bucks defense on Monday night, So we'll see how that goes. 572 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, the big thing, Shaq Bartt, Jason, Pier Paul, 573 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: those guys have to get better. They have to be 574 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: more production than they've been the last couple of weeks. 575 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: And Pierre Paul especially, the body is falling apart a 576 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: little bit. And if he can't go at the rate 577 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 1: that he needs to go, they gotta play Joe try 578 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: and shoo more first round or super talent that flashed 579 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: a lot, but they're just not giving him any opportunities 580 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: right now, John, before we let you go, one number 581 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: that's jumped out to me is the fact that the 582 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: Buck's performance at home versus on the road has been 583 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: very different this year. The four and oh at home 584 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: two and three on the road, Brady's numbers look much 585 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: more impressive. Is there anything to read into that considering 586 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: this game is going to be a home game for 587 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: the Bucks or are those numbers just playing out that 588 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: way because of the opposition in terms of who's visited 589 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: them and who they've gone to. Yeah, I really don't know, 590 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: to be honest to do. I don't understand the road 591 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: thing and the splid and all that, you know. I 592 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: mean to me, like in my mind, that should not 593 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: affect things like this, Like it shouldn't affect things like 594 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: to this degree. With the team, that veteran team, they 595 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: have lots going I just don't understand why that's what 596 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: has happened. I don't know that it's something I can 597 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: quantify from my you know, thousand foot you know, perch 598 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, like, I just can't really see it to 599 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: that degree. So I guess we'll just have to find 600 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: out and watch and see if it comes back the 601 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: other way. Crowd noise probably has affected them at some 602 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: point in the season, but I again, like a lot 603 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: of guys who played a lot of football, I don't 604 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: know if that's been a part of it, that's a 605 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: big part of it or not. I think they're really 606 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: just not playing that consistent football right now, and that 607 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: needs to be something to change, especially when it comes 608 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: to penalties and lately turnovers. That's not something I expect 609 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: to continue and pready still near the bott of the 610 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: league and turnovers and turnover worthy plays. A lot of 611 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: his turnovers have been just totally unlucky this season. Um, 612 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: so I don't think parts going to continue with the penalties. 613 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: That's been an issue for three years under areas, So 614 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: they've got to get that under control, you know, John, 615 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: Just to cover all our bases. One word answer, Tom 616 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: Brady is still pretty good. Agree to disagree, no question 617 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, people have Reacted's elite absolutely, which means 618 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: the Giants defense certainly will have its hands full on 619 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: Monday night. He is John Ledyard who covers the team 620 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: for Pewter Report. John, always good talking with you. Greatly 621 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: appreciate the time of the inside and we're looking forward 622 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: to Monday night's game. Thanks again, Thanks John, absolutely, guys, 623 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. I appreciate it. That's John Ledyard, 624 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: friend of the podcast, joining us from the Pewter Report. 625 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: Great insight into the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and of course 626 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: keep an eye on those injured reports as we move 627 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: forward towards the game on Monday Night. Could be some 628 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: game time decisions in there. Hey, Giant fans, secure your 629 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: season tickets for the two season today for only one 630 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: limited seats are available. Speak with the Giants ticket representative 631 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: now and become a season ticket member. By calling eight 632 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: n y G nineteen one five. All right, now it's 633 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: not for our weekly chat. Here's my conversation with Giants, 634 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: said coach Joe Judge. Go to let's start here. Teams 635 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: coming off of by how they come back, how do 636 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: they look on the practice field, how they work this week? 637 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: A lot of good energy this week. Obviously, you know 638 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: that week was critical for a lot of the young 639 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: guys get extra work, some extra coaching, and then obviously 640 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these older guys, you know, get some rest. 641 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: You know, the self scouts was critical for us this 642 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: time of year to make sure we go in not 643 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: only see you know what tendencies schematically we've got to 644 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,959 Speaker 1: go ahead and break or take advantage of, but then 645 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 1: also just go back and reflect on the fundamentals and 646 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, each person's development, you know, it's as a 647 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: player and a coach, and make sure that you know 648 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: it's back into the season. We focus on a couple 649 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: of specific things we can improve on. So it's a 650 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: good week to identify that for the players and for 651 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: us as coaches, so we can work on forward. Yeah, 652 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting when you spoke to the 653 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: media last week about how the self scout almost has 654 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: two parts, right, It's what you guys, the coaching scouts 655 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: can do differently, But then what you communicate to the 656 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: players from a personnel perspective, what they can do differently. 657 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Can you just talk a little bit about that. Yeah, absolutely, 658 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: So we try to always give every player, uh two 659 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: specific things, you know, some cases maybe it's three, but 660 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: really two things that they can work on a daily 661 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: the basis, you know, and maybe somebody a defensive back 662 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: and say you've really got to work on your footwork 663 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage, or maybe it's your you know, 664 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: eye control in zones, offensive line, maybe it's pad level, 665 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: strike hand place, whoever. Maybe, but give them specific things 666 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: and then also tying to that their film work going 667 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: from training camp for the season, so they can see 668 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: either how it's progressed or regressed in some cases, and 669 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 1: then always go ahead and show them, you know, some 670 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: evidence of what it's supposed to look like, you know, 671 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: where it's the league examples or historic examples of guys 672 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: that have done at a high level and people that 673 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: kind of fit their you know, similarities as a player 674 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: and skill set, so you want to give them something 675 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: they can work on that they come on out in 676 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: that way they can see themselves progress. All right, you 677 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: have a couple of guys trying to come back from injuries. 678 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: Take Coaombarko, Andrew, Thomas Sterling, Shepherd among them. How they 679 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: look in practice this week? You know what, they went 680 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: out there and did some good things. You know, Uh, 681 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: Andrew did a good job really getting back involved with 682 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: some contact drills, maybe the pads on that look good 683 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: and encouraging with him right there. You know, it's moving 684 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: throughout the week, continue to increase and and progress in 685 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: a positive way. Really trending the right way. You know, 686 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: say Kwan had a good week, he's moved the trainers 687 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: for some time. Really that week missing with the COVID protocols, 688 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, say set them back more in terms of 689 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: took him out of the building and all of a sudden, 690 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: you know that kind of limits you're going to getting 691 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: back the following week. But he's worked hard to come back. 692 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: He's look good in practice. We'll see how those guys go. 693 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: Leading up to the game right now, you and your 694 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: stath always talked about how you build your game plans 695 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: and what you like to do around the players that 696 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: are available to you, So that obviously giving away game 697 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: plan details. How much do you getting some of these 698 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: guys back, and even before the by getting Kenny back, 699 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: Darius getting healthier, how does that change and add to 700 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: the variety of things that maybe you can do offensively. Yeah, absolutely, 701 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 1: to meat. We starts to the menu of the people 702 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: and who's available, and then you can talk about schematically 703 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: where you wanna try and take advantage of somebody else. 704 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: But ultimately it's you know, who do we like best 705 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: on what routes? How can we go nicely at a 706 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: certain matchup and get someone to a position where they 707 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: can just go ahead and win a one on one battle. 708 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: So when you get get different guys back, and obviously 709 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: it gives you a variety in terms of what you 710 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 1: want to do and whether it's a different back, different receiver, 711 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: it gives you a little bit of a broader men. 712 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: You go into the game with the skill sets you know, obviously, 713 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: when some guys aren't available, that may limit some things. 714 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: You've got to make sure that you spend it, you know, 715 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: based on who's available, what they do well to add 716 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: to the team. Obviously, I'm sure you're tired of answering 717 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: this question, but I'll ask you one more time. You're 718 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 1: up close with Tom Brady. What makes him special? The 719 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: way he works and prepares, that's really the bigger I 720 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: think it's a difference really in any player at this level. 721 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: Everybody's talented, Okay, everybody has a skill set that can 722 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 1: you know, get him to this level. I think when 723 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: you get to the NFL, it's all about how you 724 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: work to stay in the league and make an impact. 725 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: And obviously it's not by accident that you play in 726 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: your mid forties. You know, a't such a high level. 727 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: And that comes into how he's prepared and how he's 728 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: executed consistently over years. But then also how he recovers 729 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: and takes care of his body off the field, which 730 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 1: is much more of a commitment than a lot of 731 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: people you know, account for. And you talk about a 732 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: lot of these guys always been the best athletes and 733 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: every team they ever been one years old coming to 734 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: this league, and you just take for grant your body recovers. 735 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: So to get to that age group where you're in 736 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: your mid upper thirties and even in the forties in 737 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: Tom's case, You've got to start putting that work in 738 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: at a young age, so to be able to play 739 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: at this age, it's not really a reflection what he's 740 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: done the last couple of years is a reflection what 741 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: he's done for the last twenty years. The one thing 742 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: that's really struck me watching what with the years is 743 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: that he can beat you in so many different ways 744 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: based on how you play him. If you play not 745 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: a lot of safeties back, he'll happily take the big play. 746 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: But if you play deep, he will thinking dunkey of 747 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: four and five yards for touchdowns left and right. So 748 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: how hard is it to prepare for a guy that 749 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: always seems to have an answer and is willing to 750 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: do whatever it takes based on what's your throwing out 751 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: a bit you're smiling because you know it, or you 752 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: gotta try to change it up on him a little bit. 753 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: And uh, look, Tom is extremely patient. And when I 754 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: say that, I mean he's patient in terms of taking 755 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: with the defense presents. So again, if you're playing close 756 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: to the line, he'll look for the advantage shot down 757 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: the field. If you're playing everybody back, he'll take, you know, 758 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: the catching runs underneath, and he's gonna take what the 759 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: defense gives your Peterally, you've got to execute. You know, 760 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: the key of playing a guy like Tom is to 761 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: try to go ahead and change how Tom plays. It's 762 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: to affect everybody around Tom and and really limit his menu. Uh. 763 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: Now that being said, he elevates the play of everybody 764 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: around him by distributing the ball. And again I go 765 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,239 Speaker 1: back to that word patients. That's something always shows up 766 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: with me to Tom. You know, it doesn't always show 767 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: and how competitive is on the field, but it's it's 768 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: how he executes, and he's willing to go you know, 769 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: tick tick tick down the field and keep moving those 770 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: sticks and keep you at bay on the sidelines. So 771 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: that's the way he plays. You know, we kind of 772 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: talked to the guys before. He's kind of like top guns, 773 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: ice cold in terms when he goes on out there, 774 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: and you just be patient yourself and stick to the 775 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: game plan. Your team. In your defense last three weeks 776 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: have not allowed more than twenty points. We know Bruce 777 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: arians wants to take big shots down the field, but 778 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: I think one thing your defense has really improved that 779 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: over your coaches, you haven't been giving up as many 780 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: of those big chunk plays. You're keeping things in front 781 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: of you. Um, when you go up against the team 782 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: like Tampa Bay, what are some of the things that 783 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: you think you've done well that have allowed you to 784 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: prevent those big plays that you can try to carry 785 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: into this week. You gotta tackle, you know, it starts 786 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: out with tackling, and really you think about the big 787 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: plays over top, Really, where they really hurts you is 788 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: systematically taking the quick gains and then turning a short 789 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: completion into a bigger game. Whether it's a screen and 790 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: check down or run. You have to do a good 791 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: job tackling. It starts with the backs. You know, these 792 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: are strong backs for net. You gotta put a shoulder 793 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: on this guy and you gotta wrap up, and you 794 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: gotta work to stop. You know, you areas after contact 795 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: and this guy does a really good job playing through contact. 796 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: Start talking about the Gronkowskis and you know, guy, when 797 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: all those guys they do a really good job of 798 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: extending plays through the contact and playing that those guys 799 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: are on the inside part of the field, especially the 800 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: running back, slot, receivers, tight ends. Those guys have to 801 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: be good with yards after contact. And they've got three 802 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: very very good ones, right there, and then obviously you 803 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: gotta talk about you know, the shot plays down the field, 804 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: and you talk about evans on the perimeter. A lot 805 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: of things show up in the fringe and red area. 806 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: And then also you know off the play actions, so 807 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: if they're hurting you at the run, you've got to 808 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: over extend your defense to really pack the box. That's 809 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: when the play action comes in and gets a nice 810 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: lay to match up down the sideline. So you really 811 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: want to make sure you start everything out with stopping 812 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: the run, making the other team one dimensional. And I 813 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 1: think a key part of this game for us is 814 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: really tackling space play as if it's recording. We don't 815 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: know about Logan Ryan status yet, but I imagine communication 816 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: probably is a real big key right to preventing those 817 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: types of big places. That's something you think your team 818 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: has improved a lot out over the course of the year. Yeah, absolutely, 819 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: And a lot of that's just getting those guys out 820 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: there and playing together as a unit. But obviously Logans 821 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: on a tremendous job of communicating force. But the thing 822 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: about communication is everyone's gonna be communicating for it to 823 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: be effective. So you know what the logans available or not. 824 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: We depend on everybody else to communicate across the board, 825 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: and we tell them all the time. Someone's always given communications, 826 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: someone's receiving communications, so it's it's a two way street. 827 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: And then you gotta make sure you echo everything you know. 828 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: Dave McKenney, Julian Love. These are guys that have worked 829 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: at these positions. We practice intentionally in terms of, you know, 830 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: moving bodies around and sometimes taking out some the dominant 831 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: single colors, you know, like a Blake Martinez when he's 832 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: Healthyer Logan Ryan and Nate Evner. You know, at different 833 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: times guys on the offense to make different people have 834 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: to speak and speak up and make sure we get 835 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: on the same page. So communication is one of the 836 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 1: most critical things you have to work on in this game, 837 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: especially playing against a team like this presents so many 838 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: multiples and how they're going to attack you. You've got 839 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 1: to make sure that if you're working with the Skies 840 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: of working on certain matchups, you've got to all be 841 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: on the same page. And then defensively for them, does 842 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: everything start their ability to stop the run, Well, I 843 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: think the front period it's they stop the run, they 844 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: keep you behind the sticks, and then they pin their 845 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: ears back into Russia. And that's a pretty good formula. 846 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: And what this team does as a whole as they 847 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: play from ahead. And you heard Tom in the press 848 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: conference before about playing on our terms when he's referring 849 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: to is you know the formula. Lot of teams have 850 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: a start fasting the game, get ahead, make the other 851 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: team feel behind, a bandoned game plan, start throwing and 852 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: when you're gonna throw a game, and comes the interior pressure, 853 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: the blitz is the fire zones, things that nature really 854 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: puts pressure on you, leads mistakes. This is one of 855 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: the top turnover teams out there as well. They really 856 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: put pressure on the ball and that comes from, you know, 857 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: putting you in a position where you really have to 858 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: play catch up consistently throughout the game. To me, a 859 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: key alment of that is you have to be committed 860 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: to your game plan and understand you got to grind 861 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 1: it out and keep plugging away, you know, to stay 862 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 1: with it and play on your terms. But we talk 863 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: specifically about their defensive front. You know, they do some 864 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: tremendous job to stop in the run that opens up 865 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: their past Russian obviously, their skill sets of Russia pastor 866 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: early and then finally pre imposting that, Um, they're a 867 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: team that blits us a lot, second highest blitz right 868 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: in the league only behind the Dolphins and their neck 869 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: and neck. They swap every week, and they disguised their coverages. 870 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: So what are the keys for your offensive line, your quarterback, 871 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: and your receivers to work together to try to counteract 872 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: that combination, which, as you just mentioned, can turn into 873 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes. Everyone's gonna be on the same 874 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: page in terms of how we're trying to play each 875 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: playing situation. It's talk about, you know, getting the run 876 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: game going, and you've got to be committed to going 877 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: ahead and showing that you will run the ball, and 878 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 1: whether it's explosive runs or dirty runs where you're just 879 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 1: continuously plugging away, you've got to present them with the 880 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: threat of a run to make sure they have to 881 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: respect that. And then in the past game, you've got 882 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: execute all living on the same page. And and that's 883 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: comes down to how you protect protected inside out. To 884 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: keep the pocket clean. The quarterback has gotta be on 885 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: time with the throwing. The receivers have to get open 886 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: and catch the ball, and when it's tight, press coverage 887 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: or it's match stone as will play a lot of times. 888 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 1: You've got to work to really defend the leverage and 889 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: get open fast and then the actors of the past, 890 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: and obviously going back to the front part talking about 891 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: immediately the protection is all key. So it's not one 892 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: person's job. It's not one aspect of the game. You've 893 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: got to make sure you play complimentary football. But on 894 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: the offense in terms of really you know, negating what 895 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: they do well, you've got to play all on the 896 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: same page and you have to operate quickly when you 897 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: have to get the ball fast and then make sure 898 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: you can set up the shots down the field by 899 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: making respect the run. Coach best lucky against Sampa Bay. 900 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate that's Johnants said Coach Joe Judge is taking 901 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: all the action to Giants football with your very own 902 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: private Sweet Sweet. You're a great way to entertain the 903 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: family and friends while rooting on your Giants and MetLife 904 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: stadium speak with the Giant Sweet representative now by calling 905 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: eight eight n y G. We thank Nate Soldier, We 906 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: thank Joe Judge, We thank John Lydiard for joining us 907 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: on this episode of the Giant Suttle Podcast, our game 908 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: preview for Giants and Bucks on Monday Night Football. For everybody, 909 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: I am John Schmulk. Thanks for being with us. We'll 910 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: see you next time on the Giant Tuttle