Speaker 1: I think most guys have more of an impegged receiver
Speaker 1: than I did.
Speaker 2: Miami, Miami, Tom wind never threw for over five hundred
Speaker 2: catch Remember, why do we all remember Slate's only catch
Speaker 2: the tack? That was the year I had the little
Speaker 2: you know, the little ten yard out for the touchdownd.
Speaker 1: I jumped off sides on a two point converse. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's right. We try to forget that way. Yeah we did,
Speaker 1: and that was the last of it. But we were
Speaker 1: all so pumped when you caught that back. I appreciate that, Fellas.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Rob Gregkowski,
Speaker 1: and this is the show where your favorite dudes get
Speaker 1: to talk about their favorite dudes.
Speaker 2: Today, we're joined by our pal, the Captain, the man
Speaker 2: on a mission on and off the field, Matthew Slater.
Speaker 1: Phellas, appreciate you have. What are we talking about today? Wow?
Speaker 1: What it's like to live with you, Julians.
Speaker 3: The fact that you and I used to live together
Speaker 3: is proved that we were slapping no furniture. One of
Speaker 3: my favorite dudes of all time. He beat double teams
Speaker 3: by just bullyant people, and he played with an edge.
Speaker 1: This guy's an animal, and a whole lot of special
Speaker 1: teams talk.
Speaker 2: You are the kicking game, You're the punk game, You're
Speaker 2: You're the gunner game Simer, and then we wrap it
Speaker 2: up by finding out what kind of dude Matthew Slator
Speaker 2: is in this week's Chellist Dude of the Week, presented.
Speaker 1: By Course Like Gotta stick around him again.
Speaker 2: Dudes on Dudes is a production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1: Jewish Worries Chicken. Little Sky is falling at all times,
Speaker 1: happily miserable with me and loves God, knows everything will
Speaker 1: be right because of his faith, and and Rob's just
Speaker 1: a golden retriever. He just he's just.
Speaker 2: Happy to happy, happy to be there, even if it's
Speaker 2: going terrible or if it's going great.
Speaker 3: Default setting is optimism. He's gonna always be optimistic even.
Speaker 2: If it's going terrible. Well, tomorrow can only get better.
Speaker 2: You know, you gotta always have a down practice every
Speaker 2: once in a while to understand what's what's going on.
Speaker 2: You got to have a down episode every once in
Speaker 2: a while to thee yeah, make it really does. You
Speaker 2: can't have the greatest day all the time, you know,
Speaker 2: can't You can't. But it makes every other day blossom.
Speaker 1: It makes every other day better. Now we just warmed up,
Speaker 1: and this is a very special episode.
Speaker 2: Special special in many occasions, literally and physically and literatively.
Speaker 1: All three the trifecta in a good way, not in
Speaker 1: the way that we all think about today. We are
Speaker 1: joined by our good friend, our our old teammate, and
Speaker 1: the man that we love to call the capt The Captain,
Speaker 1: our leader. Ten time Pro bowler, five time All Pro
Speaker 1: member of the Patriots, All Dynasty team leader.
Speaker 2: Just not on the field, but off the field as well,
Speaker 2: and three times Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 1: And one of the greatest special teamers of all time.
Speaker 1: According to Bill Belichick, the Great is the great special
Speaker 1: teamer of all.
Speaker 2: Time, and on top of according of Bill Palicheck, he's
Speaker 2: greater than his dad as well.
Speaker 1: To the show, It's great to be What is life
Speaker 1: looking like these days? I'm in full dad mode right now.
Speaker 3: I'm enjoying my time at home, uh in a transition
Speaker 3: season alive, looking to to go back to school, actually
Speaker 3: hoping to get my NBA som so, been applying to schools.
Speaker 3: I feel like a teenager again. It's like doing these
Speaker 3: essays and looking into school.
Speaker 1: But I'm excited. I'm I'm enjoying this transition and looking
Speaker 1: forward to the next chapter. Yeah, that sounds exciting.
Speaker 2: Well, can you explain to me real quick what it's
Speaker 2: like to be a dad because Jewel and your dad, Matthew, how.
Speaker 1: Many kids do you have? Now? I have four? So
Speaker 1: what's that like?
Speaker 2: Because my brothers all have kids too, it looks like
Speaker 2: the best feeling can you explain to me, because I
Speaker 2: might have to get into it right way.
Speaker 3: Is there's no joy like they're.
Speaker 1: All the dads around here, they're all happy dads.
Speaker 3: Well, there's no feeling like it. I mean, the joy
Speaker 3: you get when you're with your children. Uh, it's just undescribable.
Speaker 3: And you know, I have four kids, so it's chaos
Speaker 3: at all times, especially with three sons. But uh, you
Speaker 3: know you talk about how parents are meant to instruct
Speaker 3: and teach their kids. I learn more from my kids
Speaker 3: every day by just watching them and observing them and
Speaker 3: watching them grow up. Then they could probably ever learn
Speaker 3: from me. So it's it's been a blessing to be
Speaker 3: a dad.
Speaker 1: Man, Like, what do you learn? What is one thing
Speaker 1: that you remember you learn from your kids? This is
Speaker 1: really good man.
Speaker 3: You know what, honesty and transparency. You know what, if
Speaker 3: I ever try to, if I ever try to just
Speaker 3: you know, skirt the line of truth, my.
Speaker 1: Kids will call me out quick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you didn't say that yesterday or or Mommy
Speaker 3: said this.
Speaker 1: So they hold you. They hold your feet to the
Speaker 1: fire every day. So you're teaching him accountability. You're in
Speaker 1: full daddy daycare. So from the looks of it, it's
Speaker 1: going pretty good. Even though you were a little late
Speaker 1: to this because you're three year old. Lost your keys,
Speaker 1: so we know how. We know how, especially with that
Speaker 1: three year old. That's awesome. Now let's jump into football.
Speaker 1: What's your first memory of New England?
Speaker 3: Wow, you know, I think I go back to two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight when I got drafted by the team,
Speaker 3: the first phone call I got from Coach Belichick, and
Speaker 3: the way my college career had gone. I played a
Speaker 3: little bit offense, a little bit of defense, but mostly
Speaker 3: played in the kicking game.
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget.
Speaker 3: He calls me and he's like, look, when you talk
Speaker 3: to the media, you know, let's let's not talk about
Speaker 3: what position.
Speaker 1: You're gonna play. I'm bringing you here to help us
Speaker 1: in the kicking game and we'll figure out where you're
Speaker 1: gonna play.
Speaker 3: So I always reference that conversation with him because he said,
Speaker 3: the expectation for me, Uh, it was very clear what
Speaker 3: my role was gonna be, what was expected of me
Speaker 3: when I got here. And you know, it was a
Speaker 3: unique time to come to the team. They were undefeated
Speaker 3: in two thousand and seven, so you know, sit in
Speaker 3: that first team meeting, Bill was like, look.
Speaker 1: We just went undefeated last year. We don't need any
Speaker 1: of you guys. So it was homeland it.
Speaker 3: You know, you're just like, all right, I gotta come
Speaker 3: in the here, i gotta work and put my head down,
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna have to earn everything that comes my way.
Speaker 2: So what's it like to like see coach Balichik's expectations
Speaker 2: but also deliver exactly.
Speaker 1: What he told you you were gonna be.
Speaker 2: Like literally, he said, we need you in the kicking game,
Speaker 2: and you came through like no other.
Speaker 1: You are the kicking game.
Speaker 2: You are the kicking game, You're the punt game, you're
Speaker 2: the gunner game, you're everything with the special teams. And
Speaker 2: he told you that from the beginning, and you took
Speaker 2: it to a whole another level. What's it like to
Speaker 2: deliver for someone that drafted you and promised you that
Speaker 2: you were going to, you know, be in that role
Speaker 2: and just exceed it.
Speaker 1: You know, it meant a lot wrong.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think some people criticized the pick when
Speaker 3: they drafted me in the fifth round because it's like
Speaker 3: you're drafting a special teams player this high, and you know,
Speaker 3: there were a lot of questions about whether or not
Speaker 3: my dad had connections in New England and that's how
Speaker 3: I ended up here, which was not the case at all.
Speaker 3: So I definitely wanted to show people that coach made
Speaker 3: the right decision and placing his faith in me. It
Speaker 3: meant a lot to me to be able to play
Speaker 3: for him for sixteen years and hopefully do a good job.
Speaker 3: I assume I did a good job because he kept
Speaker 3: me around all that time, but yeah, it certainly meant
Speaker 3: a lot. I think, you know, we grew up in
Speaker 3: an era where you wanted to please your coach, like
Speaker 3: it meant everything as a football player to go out
Speaker 3: there and get that a boy or a good job
Speaker 3: from your coach. And uh, you know, I really appreciate
Speaker 3: Bill for giving me the opportunity that he did.
Speaker 2: Here's a deep question that you just brought up because
Speaker 2: you said you stuck around for sixteen seasons. You know,
Speaker 2: Julian in free agency, you almost laughed at one time myself,
Speaker 2: I got traded and I told coach, now, no, coach,
Speaker 2: I'm retiring. Like and was there ever a time in
Speaker 2: your career were you and coach were kind of buddy hads?
Speaker 2: You were a free agent and you almost laughed, but
Speaker 2: you knew your heart was here just like Julie, and
Speaker 2: I knew our heart was here as well. Here in
Speaker 2: New England was a special fellow. So was there a guy.
Speaker 1: He traded me? Coach?
Speaker 2: I'm a patriot, man, I'm going down as a Patriot
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: You're not. You're not sending me to Detroit.
Speaker 2: You almost went to the Giants, go to Giants.
Speaker 1: I remember the.
Speaker 3: Detroit and I think for me, I think we all
Speaker 3: have at least one moment in time.
Speaker 2: Happens every single player at one point.
Speaker 1: No question especial. It's just part of the business, right,
Speaker 1: So I think for me.
Speaker 3: You know, in twenty seventeen, I got hurt in training
Speaker 3: camp and I missed some time over the course of
Speaker 3: the year. My contract was up at the end of
Speaker 3: the year, and you know, the negotiations.
Speaker 1: Weren't going great. What year is this, This is going
Speaker 1: going into twenty eighteen, I know, but what year is
Speaker 1: it in your career? So this is year eleven? No rest,
Speaker 1: you think you've done your.
Speaker 3: Best for the team, and so, you know, I told
Speaker 3: my agent at that point, once I saw how negotiations
Speaker 3: were going, I said, Hey, we're gonna have to look
Speaker 3: to get out of here. And I went down to Pittsburgh,
Speaker 3: took a visit there. We talked about games and really
Speaker 3: enjoyed Pittsburgh, really enjoyed my time there. And when I
Speaker 3: was in the airport on the way back, I got
Speaker 3: a call from Bill Happens the same way and he's like,
Speaker 3: what's going on. I thought we were good. I thought
Speaker 3: we were on the same page. I was like, well, coach,
Speaker 3: were not on the same page.
Speaker 1: And thankfully we were able to work.
Speaker 3: Through it, and you know, ended up coming back, obviously
Speaker 3: and finishing my career there, and that next year we
Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad I didn't leave.
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a reminder that this game is
Speaker 3: a business, and we've all experienced the business side of it,
Speaker 3: and you know, I didn't take it personally at all,
Speaker 3: but I also understood that I had the responsibility of
Speaker 3: my family and myself to do what was best for us.
Speaker 2: Well, that was twenty seventeen going into the year twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: That was the same exact year that I was traded
Speaker 2: going into twenty eighteen season. And then I came back
Speaker 2: for one more year in New England and we won
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Thank you Slater for saying thank you
Speaker 2: to myself for staying. Thank you for staying you know
Speaker 2: the years before that as well. If we didn't stick together,
Speaker 2: we would have never won that last super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talk about this business side, you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's all the scary stuff. The fun stuff that kept
Speaker 1: us all in the locker room was the team stuff.
Speaker 1: Let's jump into that. Who was the funniest guy in
Speaker 1: the locker room?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I mean there were there were so
Speaker 3: many guys of great personalities over the years.
Speaker 1: The two of you being right up near the top.
Speaker 3: But I think the guy that we laughed the most,
Speaker 3: probably at more than than with was Nico. We had
Speaker 3: a lot of good laughs guy, but he was like
Speaker 3: our little brother, like the team's official little brother.
Speaker 1: We all love Rob, but I think about Rob, I
Speaker 1: think about Gerard.
Speaker 3: He was a lot of fun. And then the mccordy's
Speaker 3: were great.
Speaker 1: That's that New York always coming to right.
Speaker 3: But it was I mean, man, we had so many
Speaker 3: great guys on that team over those years.
Speaker 1: It was it was a lot of fun. You know.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite was the suburban poet Rusty Benson. Benson,
Speaker 1: he was hilarious. Oh my god, I always I have
Speaker 1: to give Ornberger his flowers. Yeah, Ornberger is yes on
Speaker 1: that lightest guy. And then we can't forget about Light
Speaker 1: the God and this guy got into digital videos back
Speaker 1: before there was even digital video stuff, making funny videos
Speaker 1: to give to the team. Remember when he Mary Carey thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was unbelievable, you know Light. I mean,
Speaker 3: we've all heard the stories about Light as a prankster.
Speaker 3: He had Mike Woystak, our old string coach, not talking
Speaker 3: to me for two or three months because I helped
Speaker 3: him with a prank. One time he stole Haryl Nash's
Speaker 3: car and then I vouched that there was somebody in
Speaker 3: the parking lot that I saw taking it, so he
Speaker 3: will loop me into that.
Speaker 1: And then Rich.
Speaker 3: I mean the fact that Rich was on IR and
Speaker 3: Bill brought him down to the Super Bowl and Indian
Speaker 3: just to entertain the team, and I think we all
Speaker 3: got a taste of that when he was on games.
Speaker 3: He's the best storyteller I've ever been around. He's just
Speaker 3: he's just so funny. You can't be around Rich without laughing.
Speaker 2: That is one thing about Coach Belichick as well, is
Speaker 2: that even if player was on IR, but he was
Speaker 2: a great locker room guy, or he was like a
Speaker 2: bubble guy. Coach Belichick always knew to keep that one
Speaker 2: or two guys around in the locker room that gelled
Speaker 2: the whole entire team. And rich Unberger being one of
Speaker 2: those guys making it anyone laugh at any time, no
Speaker 2: matter what he's doing, if he's just showering, if he's
Speaker 2: getting ready for practice, if he's in the training room
Speaker 2: getting taped up. Just the way he talks is just hilarious.
Speaker 2: But Coach Blicher, you got to give him credit in
Speaker 2: that category for just having that guy in the locker room.
Speaker 2: He had keepers and team geled together. Another one Nvidi's classic,
Speaker 2: Oh we had some characters.
Speaker 1: Man, we really did, which you know goes into another question.
Speaker 1: Who were the slappies of the locker room? We had
Speaker 1: a lot of slappies. I mean a lot of slappies,
Speaker 1: and put we were I'll put in our category we
Speaker 1: were slappies. Me and Slay. You were never a slap
Speaker 1: one point, man, one point that sounds a rookie.
Speaker 2: Year was my first half rookie. Yeah, camp, yeah, an hour.
Speaker 1: I want to be a slappy. I know you wanted
Speaker 1: to live together. It's proved that we were slapping. No furniture.
Speaker 1: This is before j eleven. This is just Jules, This
Speaker 1: is not Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's when we really that's when we really
Speaker 2: loved this guy. And it wasn't JA eleven Start Changing
Speaker 2: didn't have a podcast.
Speaker 1: Like Changing Up. You know that j E eleven came
Speaker 1: about making fun of Tom, did it? I started it
Speaker 1: by making a j Remember Tom used to he did well.
Speaker 1: I one day just made a j E eleven just
Speaker 1: to make fun of him and then started selling it,
Speaker 1: and I mean tops out of the game.
Speaker 2: He was one of the first ones to kind of like,
Speaker 2: you know, make a brand, and who doesn't have that now?
Speaker 2: Any top player in the NFL has a brand. So
Speaker 2: if you really look at it, Tom kind of created that,
Speaker 2: you know what, the twelve symbol.
Speaker 1: So he was a genius. He's always out of the
Speaker 1: game and years ahead.
Speaker 2: Hey, great job making fun of him.
Speaker 1: Turn it into a business. All right? Uh?
Speaker 2: Who was the guy say that you know took you
Speaker 2: under your wing? I mean with the coaching staff. Of course,
Speaker 2: Scottie O'Brien taught you a lot, But who was that
Speaker 2: player that took you under the wing and taught you
Speaker 2: what to do out there on the field.
Speaker 1: And the special teams?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean I was really fortunate to come
Speaker 3: to the team at a very special time where that
Speaker 3: kind of that old guard was still around and those
Speaker 3: guys were so much experience, championship experience.
Speaker 1: So just being able to follow around Larry is, oh
Speaker 1: my rookie year was huge, huge.
Speaker 3: I mean Larry was like the godfather of special teams
Speaker 3: in New England, had had so much success, had a
Speaker 3: tremendous career. So I watched him. I followed him around
Speaker 3: like a puppy dog. Just all right, Larry's in the
Speaker 3: cold tub. I'm in the cold tub. Larry's watching film
Speaker 3: I gotta go watch film and he was a great mentor.
Speaker 1: Another guy.
Speaker 3: You're not a special teamer, but Benjamin Watson was someone
Speaker 3: who really showed me how to be a man, showed me.
Speaker 1: How to be a pole. He just one of the
Speaker 1: best men I've ever known.
Speaker 3: And then a blast from the past, Sam Aikin, Sam Aikin,
Speaker 3: Sam Aikin, shout.
Speaker 1: Out Samy Aikin. He had the sickest card to me
Speaker 1: and that thing hug my back, take me to Providence.
Speaker 3: He was a you know, he was a special Teams
Speaker 3: captain after Larry, and Sam was great about just making
Speaker 3: me feel like, you know, hey, you belong here, like
Speaker 3: you're one of us.
Speaker 1: You know, showed me how to be a pro. So
Speaker 1: tremendous mentors early on in my career. Sam was the
Speaker 1: same way for me as well. He was just a
Speaker 1: good dude and he was a ball like. He was
Speaker 1: a strong receiver. He was he was twenty.
Speaker 2: He was one of the bigger guys.
Speaker 1: He was big, bigger. Yeah, all right, before we jump
Speaker 1: in to the dude that you picked, we gotta have
Speaker 1: one is what's the one gronk story that sticks out,
Speaker 1: one gronk story that no like just a Gronk.
Speaker 2: Hey, you can even go back to your college day.
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, we battled. Oh I remember, was a coordinator.
Speaker 1: I like this, Wayne. That's why, Dwayne Walker, we're getting.
Speaker 3: Ready to play these guys. What you were forty nine
Speaker 3: in college?
Speaker 2: Forty eight my high school number forty eight.
Speaker 1: You know this guy, Dwayne Walker. Butcher, Butcher my man's name.
Speaker 1: They got this Grodakowski out there, like, we got an
Speaker 1: account for this guy. I like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, and Gronk was obviously dominated in college.
Speaker 1: Eighteen years old, I was facing him. He was a
Speaker 1: man child.
Speaker 3: But I mean, look, I think one of the stories,
Speaker 3: and I don't know if I've ever told you this, Rob.
Speaker 3: So the weekend that Rob got drafted, I was down
Speaker 3: in New York with Kevin O'Connell and Ryan Wendell. And
Speaker 3: Kevin was with us my rookie year, ended up at
Speaker 3: the Jets. So we were visiting him and we're walking
Speaker 3: the streets of New York and we see Gronk. Now, obviously,
Speaker 3: you know, we don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I was already drafted. No, you weren't drafted yet.
Speaker 3: Who I was? We weren't drafted yet, and we were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's that tight end from Arizona.
Speaker 1: I think he's supposed to be pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, fast forward, we drafted him and he
Speaker 3: turned out to be pretty dull.
Speaker 1: So what was I doing on the streets? What was
Speaker 1: I just having a good time and enjoying life? But uh, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: that was that was a pretty full circle moment. All right,
Speaker 1: that's really cool.
Speaker 2: And before we get started as well, I got to
Speaker 2: obviously ask you a question about Jewels. Then what was
Speaker 2: he like as a roommate and how many years were
Speaker 2: you guys roommates as well?
Speaker 1: I think it's been documented a million times.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's probably around years for years,
Speaker 3: and I'll say this about you know, because we've laughed
Speaker 3: a lot about us being roommates and and h oh,
Speaker 3: but honestly, like, I think it's a great example of
Speaker 3: two guys being able to find common ground. Like Jules
Speaker 3: and I are different people, different interests, but our relationship
Speaker 3: has always been built on respect and you know, respecting
Speaker 3: the other guy, and really, you know, our friendship goes
Speaker 3: back to that. So I know, for me, if we
Speaker 3: don't spend those four years together, my career probably doesn't
Speaker 3: go the way that it went. And I tried to,
Speaker 3: you know, be a positive influence on him as well
Speaker 3: in that Holy Water on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and before we get started, another question just popped
Speaker 2: to my mind. Do you like this humble Jewels more
Speaker 2: and now that he's retired giving credit to everyone? Or
Speaker 2: do you like that Jeweles that always had a chip
Speaker 2: on his shoulder every time he stopped in the locker room,
Speaker 2: just attacking whoever. He kind of attack, going after whoever
Speaker 2: he go after? Yeah, kind of time. Who do you
Speaker 2: like more? Because I love this?
Speaker 1: Also? I do miss I.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, Jewels, everyone I try to get
Speaker 2: out of He's like, no, Like.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, yea.
Speaker 3: Honestly, he brought an edge to a football team that
Speaker 3: we needed. I mean it made people uncomfortable, it made
Speaker 3: people better. I still think about conditioning with him and
Speaker 3: how if I wasn't ready to go, he was gonna
Speaker 3: embarrass me. Like he pushed everybody around him to be better.
Speaker 3: I remember him yelling at guys we almost get in
Speaker 3: fights on the side behinds. But it made me better,
Speaker 3: it made our team better. So I kind of missed
Speaker 3: that guy. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 2: I kind of missed that great answer.
Speaker 1: Around this time of the year, I can an asshole
Speaker 1: in this that pops into my head is usually, you know,
Speaker 1: veterans are coming off the field from their conditioning or something.
Speaker 1: You go in you see the new draft picks, and
Speaker 1: I would always yelling, there are you guys, you guys
Speaker 1: bringing of these guys in to take my fucking job.
Speaker 1: I'm going, here is this guy taking my job? But
Speaker 1: that was the same thing that I heard from Bruski.
Speaker 1: That's right, Hevin fall right, you know, it was it
Speaker 1: was a standard where like, you better bring your a
Speaker 1: game because it made them work harder, and you wanted
Speaker 1: to get the best out of them because it was
Speaker 1: going to get the best out of you. That's right.
Speaker 1: So absolutely, we'll be right back after this quick break.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into pick slate. All right, what
Speaker 1: dude he picked for this week's episode. Let's set the
Speaker 1: clock to ten minutes. Rob get the AI synopsis.
Speaker 2: Ready, there we go here, this is what we do.
Speaker 2: Slay every guy that we're talking about. I do a
Speaker 2: little AI synopsis on him. I read off what AI
Speaker 2: says about the guy, just to summary so we understand
Speaker 2: who we're talking about. So let's get on to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I will right here we go.
Speaker 2: Standing at six foot five inches tall and weighing two
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty pounds, this former NFL wide receiver and
Speaker 2: special teams Ace carved out a twelve year professional career
Speaker 2: after entering the league as an undrafted free agent in
Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Despite going undrafted, he earned three
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl selections and was named first team All Pro
Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven, solidifying his reputation as one
Speaker 2: of the best special team teamers of his era. Let's
Speaker 2: get on, Cassimee os good. Oh, look at that mohaw
Speaker 2: is oh? Is he one of the first ones, you know,
Speaker 2: start that trend of one of those wild haircuts, dying
Speaker 2: the mohawk, shaving the sides.
Speaker 1: And a photo.
Speaker 3: I think that photo sums it up now, you know,
Speaker 3: for me, when I came into the league, and I
Speaker 3: think for all of us, it was very that you
Speaker 3: learned from other players, guys that had come before you,
Speaker 3: that had had success.
Speaker 1: In the league. Captain already and I you know, this
Speaker 1: is why he was.
Speaker 3: Scott O'Brien came to the team my second year and
Speaker 3: my rookie year wasn't great. And Scott really challenged me
Speaker 3: to find ways to make myself better. And there were
Speaker 3: two guys that he used to call the name of
Speaker 3: all the time, Brendan I am Mondejo and then Casim
Speaker 3: Oz Good.
Speaker 1: And he would say he would look at me and say,
Speaker 1: you ain't know I was good, And I was right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know him, not as good he's been. He's
Speaker 3: been in three Pro Bowls. This guy's an animal. But
Speaker 3: we would sit there in the off season and we
Speaker 3: would study Kasim. And I'm a big believer in and
Speaker 3: taken from other guys games, like, hey, if this guy
Speaker 3: does this well, has a lot of success, let me
Speaker 3: try to incorporate it. The problem was, Casim is six'
Speaker 3: five two twenty big. Boy i'm six feet two o
Speaker 3: five fast, though So i'm Thinking i'm looking At i'm Saying,
Speaker 3: SCOTT i can't play like this.
Speaker 1: Guy this guy's an animal out.
Speaker 3: There but WHAT i learned From, kasim and you, know
Speaker 3: when people think about gunner, play there are a lot
Speaker 3: of ways to play. GUNNER a lot of the guys
Speaker 3: that you see now are finesse. Players they win with,
Speaker 3: speed they use their, hands they use quickness and counter.
Speaker 3: Moves kasim just beat people. UP i mean he was
Speaker 3: the one who initiated. Contact he beat double teams by
Speaker 3: just bullying.
Speaker 1: People and he played with an. EDGE i, mean this
Speaker 1: guy played with an. Edge like you see that hair right,
Speaker 1: There you see. That that's a guy who's got an.
Speaker 3: Edge so the one THING i took from his game,
Speaker 3: was you, know when you come out, here you should
Speaker 3: be the, hammer not the, nail and you gotta play
Speaker 3: with an, edge like there's gotta be. Something there's gotta
Speaker 3: be some kind of dog in you that pushes you
Speaker 3: to go out here and find a way to beat
Speaker 3: double teams. Consistently, SO i, mean, LOOK i never was
Speaker 3: able to be as physical as guy like, that BUT
Speaker 3: i tried to incorporate more physicality into my game after watching,
Speaker 3: him and, uh you, know he's one of the o.
Speaker 1: Gs so Salute cassim.
Speaker 2: SIM i THINK i, Said, cassim, Right cassim to go
Speaker 2: to him for we need. Good, WELL i can tell
Speaker 2: you that you can go back To scottie O'Brien and
Speaker 2: you could tell him, that, yeah you're not as good
Speaker 2: AS i was good because your eyes great three now
Speaker 2: and you.
Speaker 3: Met, him you, know we've met him passing and, passing you,
Speaker 3: know as when he was With jacksonville and the lines
Speaker 3: of the forty nine. ERS i introduced, myself you, know
Speaker 3: as he was winding his career down AND i was
Speaker 3: kind of getting mine.
Speaker 1: Going.
Speaker 3: Uh but we've never had a chance to really shit
Speaker 3: down and have a. Conversation but, man IF i, COULD
Speaker 3: i would say thank you because, he, like he was
Speaker 3: one of the guys that paved the WAY i. Think you,
Speaker 3: know you think About tasker obviously the, godfather but there
Speaker 3: were guys that came after him that continued to shine
Speaker 3: a light on the importance of the third phase of the.
Speaker 3: Game and because sim was one of those guys that did,
Speaker 3: That and you, KNOW i think the value he brought
Speaker 3: to his team showed teams like The, Patriots, hey it
Speaker 3: helps to have a guy like.
Speaker 2: This and then on top of the value as, well
Speaker 2: he was such a great special, teamer And slay you
Speaker 2: were such a great special. Teamer but you helped contribute
Speaker 2: to our team in so many other ways in the locker,
Speaker 2: room off the field as. Well But i'm the scout.
Speaker 2: Team you would be a defender going against us guarding
Speaker 2: me Guarding julian and then you would also be a
Speaker 2: wide receiver in the scout. Team you would be taking
Speaker 2: first team rep, sometime so you were just an overall just,
Speaker 2: teammate team player at all. Times was because sim was
Speaker 2: he also an impact in the receiving receiving, game you,
Speaker 2: know out on the football.
Speaker 1: FIELD i don't know too much about.
Speaker 2: HIM i, mean this is great that you're talking about
Speaker 2: him Because i'm learning about. Him what else did he
Speaker 2: do besides special?
Speaker 1: Teams, yeah you know, what he did have some impact
Speaker 1: as a. RECEIVER i think most guys have more of
Speaker 1: an impegged receiver THAN i. Did miami.
Speaker 2: That tom wind have never threw for over Five. Mber
Speaker 2: why do we all Remember slate's only? Catch that was
Speaker 2: the YEAR i had the little you, know the little
Speaker 2: ten yard out for the, TOUCHDOWN.
Speaker 1: I jumped off sides on a two point. Convert, yes that's.
Speaker 1: Right we try to forget that, way. Yea and that
Speaker 1: was the last of. It but we were all so
Speaker 1: pumped when you caught, that AND i appreciate.
Speaker 3: That but, no you, know he did have some some
Speaker 3: a little bit of success as a, receiver AND i,
Speaker 3: think like most of, us there was always the desire.
Speaker 1: To contribute as much as you.
Speaker 3: Can, Like, look the reality is WHEN i came in the, League,
Speaker 3: YEAH i wanted to make the team AND i wanted
Speaker 3: to do it HOWEVER i. Could but you always want to,
Speaker 3: improve you always want to contribute. More AND i know
Speaker 3: he felt the, same you, know AS i, recalled towards
Speaker 3: the end of his tenure In San, diego there was
Speaker 3: more of a desire for him to play, receiver and
Speaker 3: that may have led to his.
Speaker 1: Departure uh when he headed To.
Speaker 3: JACKSONVILLE i don't want to, misspeak BUT i think that
Speaker 3: factored into. It so he did some things as a
Speaker 3: receiver Cal, Poly, uh, yeah Cal, poly and then went
Speaker 3: To San Diego. State so you, KNOW i know HE
Speaker 3: i don't want to speak for, him BUT i know
Speaker 3: he wanted to, play probably more. Receiver we all didn't
Speaker 3: want to play more, receiver but you got to do
Speaker 3: with what you're good, at and he was pretty dug
Speaker 3: on good at covering.
Speaker 1: Kicks we want to, resign resign you, here but you're
Speaker 1: not going to play, receiver just special. Teams me not
Speaker 1: wanting to put in, me not wanting to be put
Speaker 1: in a. Corner As Patrick swayze said In Dirty, dancing
Speaker 1: nobody puts baby in a. Corner well there it Is
Speaker 1: osgod said that when lev SO i didn't miss speak
Speaker 1: that factor in Him.
Speaker 2: Jackson everyone's always trying to, ample you, know some. GLORY i,
Speaker 2: mean that's that's who you are as a. Competitor you,
Speaker 2: know absolutely doesn't always work. Out did it work out
Speaker 2: in this? Case when he went To? Jacksonville did make an?
Speaker 1: Impact the way he? Thought it? Was all? Right did you?
Speaker 1: Okay did You Pro? BOWL i.
Speaker 3: DIDN'T i, didn't you, know because there's only One Pro
Speaker 3: bowl spot we were competing for towards the end there
Speaker 3: of his, career so, uh we never crossed paths at
Speaker 3: The Pro.
Speaker 1: Bowl did you go to The Pro bowl In? HAWAII i?
Speaker 1: Did can you give us some? Fun what was? Like you?
Speaker 1: Know and that's what we all. REMEMBER i actually never
Speaker 1: been to A Pro. Bowl i've. Been have you never?
Speaker 1: PLAYED i never played to. ONE i never played in,
Speaker 1: One so explain to us what it's like.
Speaker 3: LIKE i, Mean i'll say, This The Hawaii Pro bowl
Speaker 3: was really special for me BECAUSE i got to go
Speaker 3: as a kid with my. Dad oh, YEAH i remember
Speaker 3: getting the experience there AND i never dreamed THAT i
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to do it as a.
Speaker 1: Pro But, hawaii the people Of hawaii love is so.
Speaker 3: Nice they're so. Kind it's. Paradise the food is. Fantastic
Speaker 3: we were still playing real football at the, time so
Speaker 3: there was. Contact there was, tackling the, pads. Helmets now
Speaker 3: they're running around and was their kickoffs?
Speaker 1: Too like we were kick off they were doing.
Speaker 3: That there were live, kickoffs live And i'm running down
Speaker 3: next breaking.
Speaker 1: Wedges, yeah it was kind of wild way were covering full.
Speaker 1: Kickoffs but it was a lot of. Fun i'll tell you.
Speaker 1: That it was a lot of. Fun, man The Pro
Speaker 1: bowl and we gotta get the pro boile back To.
Speaker 3: HAWAII i agree full head of hair approve of that
Speaker 3: picture with the before we were.
Speaker 2: Married are talking so you were dog back.
Speaker 1: In it's just the funnel off right. There, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: now who's the best special teamer in the? League right?
Speaker 3: NOW i, mean, LOOK i have extreme, bias but to,
Speaker 3: me It's brendan's school, schooler.
Speaker 2: Voted by everyone in the, league speaks.
Speaker 3: For himself and and to, me there's really no weakness
Speaker 3: in his game when you look at. Him you, know
Speaker 3: we talk About we always talk about covering kicks and
Speaker 3: making plays impact and, coverage but in the return game
Speaker 3: is very rare that the guy he's blocking will even
Speaker 3: be close to the. FOOTBALL i, mean he's a dominant
Speaker 3: player in the return. Game so what about?
Speaker 1: COOL i love. Returns you get blocker and he's a
Speaker 1: great blocker and the, vice and that's the thing position.
Speaker 1: Flexibility he can play in the, vice but he also
Speaker 1: plays in the. Box he can also rush. PUNTS i,
Speaker 1: mean he can do a.
Speaker 3: Lot he's a he's a freaky, athlete he really, is
Speaker 3: SO i, MEAN i love. Him there are a lot
Speaker 3: of guys in the league that the vice advice. Vice
Speaker 3: any context on the, vice the vice go, ahead slate the.
Speaker 3: Vice so when you go out, there the two guys
Speaker 3: on the reminner of the punt team or the gunners
Speaker 3: when you go across from them on their punt return,
Speaker 3: team the two guys that go out to double team the,
Speaker 3: gunner that's the. Vice so it'll be a corner and
Speaker 3: a safety body type usually that double that.
Speaker 1: Gunner the good.
Speaker 3: Ones, anyway if you're getting, singled you're probably not doing
Speaker 3: a great job where they're kicking, away, Right so the vice.
Speaker 3: Players you, know you'd see a lot Of we put
Speaker 3: our best athletes out. There we put them accords out
Speaker 3: there for. Years we put a key to leave out.
Speaker 3: There Kung chung was out. THERE i, mean we put
Speaker 3: a lot of good players out. There it made life
Speaker 3: difficult for posing.
Speaker 2: Gunners what was it, like you, know you Were All
Speaker 2: Pro special teamer and Then Schooler All Pro special, teamer
Speaker 2: but you were what the one coaching them last?
Speaker 1: Year you know In New?
Speaker 2: England what was the one piece of advice that you
Speaker 2: were Giving schooler and that you would give to other
Speaker 2: special teamers as well being An All pro and then
Speaker 2: coaching you, know the special team team is.
Speaker 3: Now, MAN i feel, ROB i really feel fortunate to
Speaker 3: have played With brendan and then had the opportunity to coach.
Speaker 3: Him our relationship is a special one because you, Know
Speaker 3: i'm much older than, him but for whatever, reason we
Speaker 3: clicked and you, know our friendship is one THAT i
Speaker 3: really really. Value BUT i think to, ME i saw
Speaker 3: early on, like, hey this kid's got it and to
Speaker 3: really take it to the next, level he's got to
Speaker 3: have an understanding that it's got to be day after
Speaker 3: day after. Day you guys know this nobody shows up
Speaker 3: in the game and just makes Plays like what did?
Speaker 1: COACH i always say practice execution becomes.
Speaker 3: Reality so once he had that register for, him and
Speaker 3: it registered early, on you really saw him elevate and
Speaker 3: elevate and keep getting. Better and you, know we used
Speaker 3: to say to our guys, like, hey, look it's, no
Speaker 3: it's not by accident That brendan is having the success
Speaker 3: that he's.
Speaker 1: Having Look at how he.
Speaker 3: Practices he's practicing harder than everybody on our football.
Speaker 1: Team he's running full.
Speaker 3: Speed guys are complaining because he's going too, Hard like
Speaker 3: that's how you need to work to have, success and
Speaker 3: he understands.
Speaker 1: That, well we gotta get back To. Osgoode first, off
Speaker 1: he's an. Actor he's an. Actor, Yes, jericho we Were
Speaker 1: soldiers Road. Rules i've read this about. Him he's a
Speaker 1: he's aspiring. ACTOR i DON'T i don't know That i've
Speaker 1: seen any of. Those We Were soldiers was a big.
Speaker 1: One glazer what introduced the? Two okay with What Michael
Speaker 1: Clark Green? Mile, wow all, right so you, ACT i don't.
Speaker 1: Act i'm not as talented as as BROTHER i was.
Speaker 1: GOOD i DON'T i don't have, that have you ever.
Speaker 1: Act i've never, acted.
Speaker 2: Not even in like A patriots schedule release video one of.
Speaker 2: THEM i knew you were buy you're an.
Speaker 1: Actor they find a way to get you. In and
Speaker 1: what was it? Like it was A we did a
Speaker 1: retirement house theme one, year So ernie was. THERE i
Speaker 1: dropped Dmag off at the. House ivan was. There they
Speaker 1: do a good job with. Those those are fun they
Speaker 1: had with the present this year DID i did, great
Speaker 1: hilarious time because Sim. Osgoode now we gotta what kind of?
Speaker 1: Dude you'll figure out what kind of dude dude? Is
Speaker 1: is he stud a guy that was born with, athleticism,
Speaker 1: FOOTBALL I q through the, roof well, rounded always the.
Speaker 1: Guy or is he a freak unparalleled physical ability of
Speaker 1: one of. One or is he a dog relentless motivated
Speaker 1: physically and mentally. Tough is he a whiz he's got
Speaker 1: intellect in a innovative he's, Clutch he's he's a, whiz
Speaker 1: he's very. Wizardy or is he a dude's dude positive
Speaker 1: attitude to bring the locker room, TOGETHER a guy that's,
Speaker 1: calm cool and, collected or just a guy that is
Speaker 1: in there to make the locker room. Better, well what
Speaker 1: do you think he? Is what kind of dude is?
Speaker 1: He i'm going right off, Top, doll he's.
Speaker 3: DOG i mean WHEN i tell you this guy's the bully,
Speaker 3: guys he was a bully out, there.
Speaker 1: Man it.
Speaker 3: Was it was like he enjoyed imposing his will on
Speaker 3: smaller corners and safeties, straight.
Speaker 2: Doll so just to describe as good as a, whole
Speaker 2: you're saying he wasn't really one of the gifted athletic
Speaker 2: guys out. There he made it because he was just
Speaker 2: an absolute savage on the football field and he wanted it,
Speaker 2: more willing to take on so he was kicking as,
Speaker 2: well and that.
Speaker 1: He. Did, okay but, okay he's probably a hybrid stud.
Speaker 1: DOG i haven't seen two.
Speaker 2: Categories it's just One i'm staying.
Speaker 1: WITH i. Agree you, know usually special teamers teamers are
Speaker 1: dogs or or of some, sort especially a guy like his,
Speaker 1: story undrafted guy to go and become a twelve year
Speaker 1: pro with nothing but really special teams on his. RESUME
Speaker 1: i know we talk about receiver and that's why he
Speaker 1: signed The San diego but he's known as a. Teamer
Speaker 1: that's that's, right that's a. Dog we'll be right back
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Speaker 1: matthew appreciate you. Guys and what we're going to do
Speaker 1: is we're gonna sit and Ask slate some questions and
Speaker 1: we're going to determine what kind of Dude slate.
Speaker 2: Is off the questions that we're gonna ask a. Questions
Speaker 2: this is our very first time having a guest on the,
Speaker 2: show so we appreciate you coming, here be impatient with,
Speaker 2: us just going along with. Us your your two favorite
Speaker 2: teammates as you've ever had in a lot of and
Speaker 2: being another great teammate once, again but this time in
Speaker 2: the nuthouse locker room here at the dude's.
Speaker 1: House so we appreciate.
Speaker 2: You we want to figure out what kind of dude
Speaker 2: you are with the questions that we're going to ask.
Speaker 1: You let's, see all, right all, right let's do. This
Speaker 1: let's do this first, off you got, You, YES i.
Speaker 1: Do i'm taking.
Speaker 2: Notes there we, go And i'm gonna, probably you, know
Speaker 2: spit some facts out there that we should probably listen
Speaker 2: to in life as.
Speaker 1: Well because this Is. Slater let's just start. Off let's
Speaker 1: start off with a hard. One what kind of dude
Speaker 1: do you think you? Are that is tough because you
Speaker 1: want to be? Humble? Yeah or you don't you want
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: YEAH i like to think the team do what was
Speaker 1: the descriptions like to be a? Dudes? Dude bring the.
Speaker 2: VIBEBODY i see that positive influence, time positive.
Speaker 1: INFLUENCE i never really seen you as a negative. INFLUENCE
Speaker 1: i appreciate that.
Speaker 2: WELL i, Mean jewels did a lot of negative things
Speaker 2: when you were his.
Speaker 1: Roommates so what were you doing inside that? House what
Speaker 1: was going? On was he a negative? Influence he made
Speaker 1: it Out we were. Good he was not your.
Speaker 2: Roommate we don't know what you would be on The
Speaker 2: giants on The.
Speaker 1: Giants you got him to the? HOLIDAYS i want to
Speaker 1: take you should all, right so that's what you?
Speaker 2: Think all, Right, well it's like did you wear flip
Speaker 2: flops in the?
Speaker 1: Shower you have to wear flip? Flops you have to have, asked,
Speaker 1: well why is?
Speaker 2: That why do you have?
Speaker 3: To Because i've seen some of them feet in there
Speaker 3: there on.
Speaker 1: OUT i can't do. IT i get some bad, feet
Speaker 1: rant a lot of, route see my own. Feet, yeah
Speaker 1: we gotta have so have to due to all, right
Speaker 1: who's the most famous person in your? Phone most famous
Speaker 1: person in my? Phone? Yeah most? FAMOUS i MEAN i
Speaker 1: would say one of you, guys BUT tv PROBABLY TV
Speaker 1: tv pretty, FAMOUS, tv pretty, FAMOUS.
Speaker 5: TB i would, say he's up there's up, THERE i
Speaker 5: mean quarterback AND.
Speaker 2: Tv, anyways he's most, famous this, guy this, guy we
Speaker 2: wish we had his.
Speaker 1: Number you guys.
Speaker 3: Probably got all five of his cell phone.
Speaker 1: Numbers that.
Speaker 2: Was SO.
Speaker 1: Tv, okay all?
Speaker 2: Right what was your college g P a three point?
Speaker 1: One? Yeah yet.
Speaker 2: That's WHY i didn't make it into THE ivy makes sense,
Speaker 2: NOW i was Just i'm disappointed with that one. One
Speaker 2: your your g P a and The Special Teams WORLD
Speaker 2: i would say at least a three point.
Speaker 1: EIGHT i appreciate that video, extracurriculum video video. Game what
Speaker 1: video game did you? Play, oh we're playing IN c
Speaker 1: DOUBLE a. Football just making sure you were crazy maniac in. College,
Speaker 1: yeah we had an issue with the video. Game, okay
Speaker 1: we used to play as a.
Speaker 3: Team we played each, other had a pot. Circulating some
Speaker 3: of those guys may be. Watching they know who the best,
Speaker 3: was and it was, me, Slate you're the.
Speaker 1: Best three point one? One did you? Play who did
Speaker 1: you play? With what was your team on N c TWO.
Speaker 1: A i would, go you Play Ohio state with what year? Was?
Speaker 1: Again another special? Teamer we go four, wide spread it,
Speaker 1: out and then you Had Troy smith running. Quarterback SEE
Speaker 1: i can still remember my. Rock we were. Good we
Speaker 1: had that. Thing he's hitting four, verticals get it, out
Speaker 1: get it out us your coming run, up run from
Speaker 1: get the. Edge all, Right so N c TWO a played. That,
Speaker 1: okay what was the song on your college highlight? Film
Speaker 1: ooh hm, HMM i cannot. Recall we can't. RECALL i can't.
Speaker 1: Recall play too much. Football, yeah, Yeah i've been hitting the.
Speaker 1: Head i've been hitting the. Head, no let me put
Speaker 1: that on that could hurt.
Speaker 2: You how many college offers did you get out of high?
Speaker 1: School i'm gonna, say like fifteen were? YOU i was
Speaker 1: at three. SCHOOLS i was. NOT i was not rob
Speaker 1: coming out funny, enough four.
Speaker 3: STAR i had a. FIFTEEN i committed to go To
Speaker 3: dartmouth out of out of high. SCHOOL i was gonna
Speaker 3: go to The Ivy league route WHEN i was taking
Speaker 3: my studies seriously in high. School and, uh you, KNOW
Speaker 3: i chose to stay at home and go TO la
Speaker 3: and play at, home PLAY d one, obviously.
Speaker 1: So that was a great. Choice your top Five Public,
Speaker 1: universe number, One top, five number, one top, five Cow
Speaker 1: bears Out.
Speaker 2: Arizona look at the latest right.
Speaker 1: Division now you're number. Two all, Right, slate let's get
Speaker 1: back into. This determine what kind of guy you. Are
Speaker 1: what was your first?
Speaker 5: Car my first actual car was A LEXUS x sixty
Speaker 5: fancy AND i got that my third year in the
Speaker 5: league was rinting my dad's.
Speaker 1: Car first ever. Car what was your first? Ever it
Speaker 1: was my Dad's Lexus Flexis lexis. Family tell you what
Speaker 1: it makes a good, Product then make a good. Product,
Speaker 1: okay what do you drive? Now right, Now i'm Gonna
Speaker 1: i'm in An Audi Audi electric, tron one of people
Speaker 1: for The. Earth let's see no determine what kind of
Speaker 1: duty is? Good good note to put in Parenthesies Electric.
Speaker 1: Electric put that in parenthesase.
Speaker 2: Slate what was your first endorsement?
Speaker 1: Deal my first endorsement Deal Rebok rebadbard told this. Before
Speaker 1: rebok cut me. Loose rebok cut me, loose cut you.
Speaker 1: Loose they cut me loose after my third. Year well
Speaker 1: THEY i think they on the Ten Pro bowls And.
Speaker 1: Nike yeah that Thanks. Rebok oh, oh, well never. Mind
Speaker 1: you Told reebok to kick kicked me in the. Curve
Speaker 1: BUT i Think reebok kicked everyone to the. Curb they
Speaker 1: left THE. NFL JJ jj was still wearing rebox J J.
Speaker 3: Watt he was still Wearing he hit his own line to,
Speaker 3: shoot which probably would have CHOSEN jj over ME Jj.
Speaker 1: Rebok let me see That rebok all, right kind of
Speaker 1: like a throwback type of. Guy the old, pumps you know,
Speaker 1: them you'rees good Old Jim wall and you walk in
Speaker 1: the train, room, Coach i'm.
Speaker 2: Hurting just pump your, shoes get out of, here pump those.
Speaker 1: SHIPS i need to stay out of there with jimbo.
Speaker 1: Early all, right what what's the square root of one forty? Four?
Speaker 1: OH i, know BUT i can't give him the. Answer,
Speaker 1: oh phone a friend on, this that's, Easy. Slate come, on,
Speaker 1: man you're committed the.
Speaker 6: Darkments it's all, right we got. It you're just you're just.
Speaker 6: US i don't. KNOW i Thought i'm not a math.
Speaker 1: Guy didn't.
Speaker 2: Know, wait you really don't know that it's Twelve, okay,
Speaker 2: YEAH i didn't.
Speaker 1: Know it's twelve fast not fast. Enough describe your? Locker
Speaker 1: was it Mess? Oh? Messy, okay yeah it was. Bad.
Speaker 1: Man we've been there for so long it's. Hard. YEAH
Speaker 1: i MEAN i got ALL i got all this in.
Speaker 1: THERE i got sixteen.
Speaker 3: Years one of the stuff stuff so many people say
Speaker 3: in bibles and stuff to, SLATE i mean.
Speaker 2: Game, jerseys in the uniforms to.
Speaker 1: Nikes, YEAH i mean there's a lot of there's a
Speaker 1: lot of sixteen years in one, SPOT a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of, stuff, stuff a lot of. Stuff all,
Speaker 1: RIGHT i got. One if you weren't a pro, athlete
Speaker 1: who would you work for or what would you? Do?
Speaker 3: Well you, Know i've always had a passion for, Ministry
Speaker 3: SO i think you know my plan BEFORE i got,
Speaker 3: drafted was become a youth.
Speaker 1: Pastor so that would have been the ROAD i would
Speaker 1: have taken a. Pastor put that, down all, right that's
Speaker 1: p s a t o or as a.
Speaker 2: Pastor now and a fight breaks out at, practice what
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 1: Do oh of we.
Speaker 3: Gotta i'm gonna do the same THING i did When
Speaker 3: rob Fought Michael bennett at the end of The seattle
Speaker 3: explain that, fella you, know LIKE i don't you, KNOW
Speaker 3: i don't WANT i don't want guys fighting out, there
Speaker 3: but you know that's part of the.
Speaker 1: Deal sometimes it's. FOOTBALL i guess this is a gladiator,
Speaker 1: sport so it. Happens all. Right what's the most you've
Speaker 1: ever bench? Pressed? Oh you? Know, yeah you? Were you
Speaker 1: were in that mine.
Speaker 2: That was that was maybe pre the four shoulders S.
Speaker 1: So acted like he didn't, know but new mm hm
Speaker 1: three seventy. Five that explains a. Lot what type of guy?
Speaker 1: Is oh? Man a? Trickster all have you ever been?
Speaker 2: Fined and for how MUCH i have been fined FROM
Speaker 2: nfl or from coach from THE?
Speaker 3: Nfl oh face mask my rookie year in the, PRESEASON
Speaker 3: i go my entire, career.
Speaker 1: Don't get fined.
Speaker 3: Again my last, YEAR i get fined twice for you,
Speaker 3: know illegal crackback blocks Because i'm trying to hustle and
Speaker 3: block for the. Returner he didn't say. It, NO i
Speaker 3: didn't say. IT i went head. Hunting forearm shiver up. High,
Speaker 3: No james, Thrash i'm just Getting James.
Speaker 1: Stretcher james.
Speaker 3: Thrash i'm just kidding THAT i was not head. Hunting
Speaker 3: i'm just that was no illegal crackback. Blocks so you're
Speaker 3: just running towards the other.
Speaker 1: Side i'm just trying to finish my, box which is
Speaker 1: completely understandable for a guy that played in the era
Speaker 1: where it was okay to do. That that's it's hard
Speaker 1: for him to change his mindset in the latter part
Speaker 1: of his.
Speaker 2: Career, yeah, well change your mindset once you get. Fined
Speaker 2: But i'm kind of taking it.
Speaker 1: There he's kind of a dirty, player. Dude, yeah face
Speaker 1: like he's freaking playing, hard playing, hard our whistle to
Speaker 1: whistle rob getting fined, twice that's not that.
Speaker 2: Much, YEAH i, Know i'm just, messing what's your fastest forty?
Speaker 1: Times, OH i mean we know how this, goes, Right
Speaker 1: you're fast may at one time. Ran WHEN i was,
Speaker 1: TRAINING i ran. There, yeah that's the. ONE i ran
Speaker 1: up four to eight for to eight. Four WHEN i was,
Speaker 1: TRAINING i had a. Second what was your fastest one hundred?
Speaker 1: Meter what was your high school? Time high? SCHOOL i
Speaker 1: ran ten six two ten six two. Seventeen, now how
Speaker 1: fast do you think you could have got that if
Speaker 1: you were training as a, man if you put on
Speaker 1: a man, HOURS i mean you put it into your
Speaker 1: SPECIAL i don't like to talk about WHAT i could
Speaker 1: have done in, this BUT i ran WHEN i ran
Speaker 1: in high.
Speaker 3: SCHOOL i did not live. WEIGHTS i didn't live. Anyways
Speaker 3: in high, school you know se. FASTER i was seventeen
Speaker 3: my senior, Year SO i THINK i could have you,
Speaker 3: KNOW i THINK i could have touched.
Speaker 1: Ten three ten two ten three. TEN i ran over twenty.
Speaker 1: THREE i was an hour with pads with pat twenty?
Speaker 1: Three so? Fast was that your last year as? Well?
Speaker 1: OH i wouldn't run the twenty three last? Year? Okay
Speaker 1: and then like LAST i was like fifteen to. Six
Speaker 1: it was bad right back got he had, It he
Speaker 1: got up and he had. It, wait last speed? Question
Speaker 1: could you Beat Randy moss in a two? Hundred now
Speaker 1: we have this. Debate, OH i, know we have this.
Speaker 1: Debate we argue. THIS i, mean look in my, prime
Speaker 1: In randy's, PRIME i could HAVE i could have been
Speaker 1: ten meters behind him in my prime slaying up Against
Speaker 1: Randy moss's speed. Man that's an all time speed all,
Speaker 1: Right so we did what was the? Forties he ran
Speaker 1: like a four to, One, no you're ran four to.
Speaker 1: TWO i don't know if he, ran but he we
Speaker 1: used to mess. With he. Floats he does.
Speaker 3: Float it's Because randy was what like thirty, two thirty three,
Speaker 3: ree we were spry and chatt, o'shay you should mess
Speaker 3: With randy all the.
Speaker 1: Time slack can beat. You slack can Be randy didn't
Speaker 1: like the hated. It he didn't like, that but that was.
Speaker 1: Fun he'd be, like, Oh, chatty oh.
Speaker 2: All, right when's the last time you? Cried besides when
Speaker 2: you heard you were? Coming last TIME i? Cried but
Speaker 2: you know WHAT.
Speaker 3: I was at A i was at a funeral For
Speaker 3: Don Hasselbeck don hassel a couple of weeks. Ago, funeral great,
Speaker 3: man great mentor for my wife AND i and uh,
Speaker 3: yeah great football.
Speaker 1: Family yeah they really. Are they're great.
Speaker 2: People WHENEVER i see uh hassleback just always a Great oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah they're just tremendous, family really good ON tv. Too,
Speaker 3: yeah they already knowledge sharp, guys sharp.
Speaker 1: Man what's the first date with? You look? Like first?
Speaker 1: Date first? DATE i like to go somewhere. Quiet where
Speaker 1: are we gonna actually where we can talk walk and? Talk? Okay,
Speaker 1: yeah you know you go to a, movie you're not really.
Speaker 3: Talking you, Know dinner is a toss, up you, know
Speaker 3: maybe you just go hang out at the park or
Speaker 3: my Wife and our first date was a cheesecake, factory
Speaker 3: beautiful With.
Speaker 1: Gary Get.
Speaker 3: Gary he was start willing, it but you know it
Speaker 3: give us an opportunity to. Talk you got to talk
Speaker 3: on a day you gotta get to know one to.
Speaker 1: Not really important question to follow up on, that what
Speaker 1: cheesecake did you guys? Order oreo cheese? Kid come? On so?
Speaker 1: Good quick story About gary.
Speaker 2: Guy and he was WHEN i was a, rookie he
Speaker 2: was a linebacker here for The, patriots and he made
Speaker 2: me feel LIKE i couldn't, play you, know at this
Speaker 2: level in THE nfl because he jammed me on my
Speaker 2: very first route AND i didn't get off the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage for about five seconds and then he finally
Speaker 2: backed up and the ball was already. THROWN i was
Speaker 2: one yard off the line of scrimmage when time threw.
Speaker 2: That Bossle, gary you made me feel really.
Speaker 1: CALL i think it worked. Out all you need that you?
Speaker 1: Need that woke me. Up that's.
Speaker 2: RIGHT i GOTTA i gotta really focus off this last.
Speaker 1: In the light of where we're. At someon would call
Speaker 1: that a an fl. Baptism some would we gotta we
Speaker 1: gotta wrap this. Up okay a little. Longer you didn't
Speaker 1: do it with your four. Kids what's? That he?
Speaker 2: Said we got to wrap it? UP i, said what
Speaker 2: you didn't do with your four? Kids it's getting out of.
Speaker 1: Control, multi that's what you shall. Do that's questions about.
Speaker 2: IT i shall do my.
Speaker 1: Job what's the last book we? Read last? Book The
Speaker 1: psychology Of? Money, uh it's a lot to.
Speaker 3: You it talks, about you, know how our perspectives sometimes
Speaker 3: shift once we start making, money and how greed really
Speaker 3: plays a huge factor and a lot of people experiencing financial.
Speaker 3: Ruin AND i think you know that is very, true
Speaker 3: especially In. America SO i got to read.
Speaker 1: That but what's it called the? Psychology? Wow that's? Pee? Why,
Speaker 1: okay just making. Sure, wow, SLATE.
Speaker 2: I told you it's gonna be a Great he's going
Speaker 2: to keep, us you, know straight. Edge that's what he's.
Speaker 2: Doing we're learning from, him that's what we're.
Speaker 1: Learning a lot from. Him and we already knew a
Speaker 1: lot about. Him we knew everything about, him but now
Speaker 1: we're learning. More, yeah you got one more question and
Speaker 1: one more.
Speaker 2: Question all, right this is a good one one because
Speaker 2: we really haven't talked about this category with.
Speaker 1: You, yeah how did you prepare your? Steak were you like.
Speaker 2: An absolute dog animal outside just a wild?
Speaker 1: One i'm going rare now. Here here's a here's an
Speaker 1: inside track for you.
Speaker 3: Guys if you ask ten black folks how they prepare their,
Speaker 3: steak seven of them are gonna say well?
Speaker 1: Done okay are? You AND i came up a well done?
Speaker 3: Guy and THEN i started hanging out with my brothers
Speaker 3: from the other AND i realized that medium maybe medium.
Speaker 3: Rare i'm a medium medium medium guy.
Speaker 1: Converted. Me and then, lastly how do you eat that?
Speaker 1: Steak depends on who's? Around by. YOURSELF i have to
Speaker 1: go hands. Fortnight, No, no you're by. YOURSELF i like. That,
Speaker 1: okay when you get down to the bottle. Hand you
Speaker 1: pick it up with your. Hand the hand when.
Speaker 3: On that, bomb me and my sons were going, bone,
Speaker 3: okay my wife, Around i'm USING i gotta use the fore.
Speaker 1: Gun you're teaching the boys that you gotta get all the.
Speaker 1: Meat you gotta, Go meat left, behind meat close to
Speaker 1: the bone is some of the best meat on that
Speaker 1: on that. State, WELL i think we got all our.
Speaker 1: Stuff let's one, second we're gonna let's let's go review this.
Speaker 2: Ernie shall we go to the? Ernie we gotta look
Speaker 2: look this.
Speaker 1: Over you. See, yeah he thinks he's a. Dudes he
Speaker 1: was three point. ONE i thought he was gonna be.
Speaker 1: Too so he's really not a. Whiz that's. Freaky that's.
Speaker 5: Freaky academic read about, money oh Aad and he likes
Speaker 5: his steak medium and also.
Speaker 1: Eats it with the hands when no one's, around but
Speaker 1: preferably uses Forking knight brown With, okay all, right you
Speaker 1: know WHAT i? Got, yes, yes, definitely mm. Hmm on,
Speaker 1: three what do we think he? Is? One? Two? Three? Whizz,
Speaker 1: yeah we. Wizz we think you're. Whizz as as we
Speaker 1: we kept on saying throughout this, interview we kept on
Speaker 1: learning about new. STUFF I I i learned that greed
Speaker 1: is the route to people who their. Money, YES i
Speaker 1: learned that if you're six foot five and a, dog
Speaker 1: you could play special teams for twelve. YEARS i learned
Speaker 1: so much About. OSGOODE i, mean, YES i MEAN i
Speaker 1: was a little disappointed with YOUR. Gpa but there's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of factors out of there that you were committed To
Speaker 2: dartmouth because that's, smart but you were doing so many
Speaker 2: other things as, well like being an all star in
Speaker 2: the video game world and be the brain out, there
Speaker 2: and that was helping you out on the, field and
Speaker 2: you knew that was your real master of your.
Speaker 1: Life. Fulltimo still a three point.
Speaker 2: One you got by and you didn't even care about
Speaker 2: what was going on in the school. World you still
Speaker 2: got a three point, one but you were a master
Speaker 2: with a four point zero on the field and then
Speaker 2: video games that made a lot of money doing that
Speaker 2: to take care of your.
Speaker 1: Family it, is you know, what and also. Smart you
Speaker 1: have to be a wizard to be a teamer for
Speaker 1: sixteen years in this fucking. League it's really, like that's
Speaker 1: what people don't. Understand for you to constantly innovate yourself
Speaker 1: each year to bring value to a team where they're
Speaker 1: literally giving up a roster spot for you to just
Speaker 1: play special. Teams that's unheard. Of sixteen years pro, bowler thirteen,
Speaker 1: years all, pro eleven years. Whatever that's that's that's that's a.
Speaker 1: Wizard that's a. Wizard it's Freaking it's like Some Harry potter. Shits.
Speaker 1: LATE i know you're religious and you don't read that,
Speaker 1: stuff but it's Like Harry potter's. Magic i'll take. YOU
Speaker 1: i appreciate, You, yes, Yes.
Speaker 2: Late we appreciate you coming on the, show being our
Speaker 2: first guest here On dudes On.
Speaker 1: Dudes we weren't.
Speaker 2: Really sure HOW i was gonna, go BUT i can
Speaker 2: tell you, this you took, it you, know to a
Speaker 2: whole other level with. Us, man we felt really comfortable with,
Speaker 2: you and not just on top of it that you're
Speaker 2: a wiz. Man you're a dude's dude as. Well you
Speaker 2: bring the, team you're a dude's, dude you're a dog's
Speaker 2: on the. Field but the main aspect of your life.
Speaker 1: Is that you are a wizard. Man that's why you
Speaker 1: are a.
Speaker 3: Whiz CAN i just say, Something, yeah go, ahead let
Speaker 3: me just say one. Thing i'm very proud of it
Speaker 3: to you guys for how you transitioned out of the
Speaker 3: game and how successful this next chapter is for both
Speaker 3: of you.
Speaker 1: Guys keep keep killing. It thanks, man thank. YOU i,
Speaker 1: Mean i'm gonna Sh i'm gonna sh a single tear me,
Speaker 1: Too i'll shed a. TEAR i feel like this is
Speaker 1: a time back in Two.
Speaker 2: You know, something your stud as. Well now that was
Speaker 2: toudly what you just.
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