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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man that time of week.

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Speaker 2: My name is Bernie Frattle. We are come to your

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Speaker 2: to get to all of it, but I must get

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Speaker 2: something off my chest as the nonsensical groupthink echo chamber

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Speaker 2: narrative simply won't go away. The loser's limit crazy talk.

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Speaker 2: So let me let me just start here, and then

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Speaker 2: I will morph into a historical perspective. And of course

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Speaker 2: you already know I'm I'm talking about the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: It must must be the refs, It must be a conspiracy.

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Speaker 2: Sure see, here's the deal. When history repeats itself, as

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Speaker 2: it has four times on our own. Now, just dealing

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Speaker 2: with Buffalo and the Chiefs, there's always a convergence of

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Speaker 2: factors leadership, decision making, execution, situational awareness, preparedness, confidence, icy

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Speaker 2: cold precision. By the way, Paging Buffalo, I will mention

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Speaker 2: that James Cook's non usage when it mattered most in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, or a quarterback sneak on fourth down

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Speaker 2: the whole world knew was coming, or for whatever reason

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Speaker 2: in these high leverage moments in January and Arrowhead, Sean

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Speaker 2: McDermott just looks very unsure of himself. By the way,

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Speaker 2: he's the head coach of the Buffalo Bills. I got

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Speaker 2: no beef with McDermott. But facts as facts. There are

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Speaker 2: objective truths, and there are personal feelings. And the truth

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Speaker 2: is the Bills had plenty of chances to win that game.

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Speaker 2: So please miss me with the loser's lament about the

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Speaker 2: refs and the conspiracy theories. But that said, let's dive

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Speaker 2: into that historical perspective. You are underestimating how truly special

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Speaker 2: this Chiefs team is. Don't try to marginalize them because

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Speaker 2: they don't blow everybody up by six touchdowns. They're the

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Speaker 2: fourth team to reach three Super Bowls in the first

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Speaker 2: team to make the game after winning back to back

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls. Got that, the first team to make back

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Speaker 2: to the game after winning back to back Super Bowls, Now.

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Speaker 2: As hard as it is to win two titles in

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Speaker 2: a row, a three peat is a rarity in any

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Speaker 2: of the major sports. If you go across the NBA,

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Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, NHL, and even the WNBA. In the

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Speaker 2: history of all of those leagues, there have been a

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Speaker 2: total of fourteen instances where a team has won three

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Speaker 2: straight titles, and it hasn't happened in twenty three years.

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Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Lakers from two thy to twenty two, well,

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Speaker 2: they're the last team to complete a three peat. The

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Speaker 2: Chiefs had gone eight straight games without a turnover, the

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Speaker 2: longest streak of any in the Super Bowl era, and

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Speaker 2: of course, until Patrick Mahomes lost the fumble against the

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Speaker 2: Bills last week, that's the same Mahomes who also enters

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl on a nine to zero straight up

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Speaker 2: then there's the legend Andy Reid, the winning his coach

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Speaker 2: in both Kansas City and Philadelphia's franchise histories. By the way,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs, Yes, they've won a remarkable twelve one score

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Speaker 2: games this season, and dating back to last season, seventeen

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Speaker 2: in a row. Oh. By the way, they're also twenty

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Speaker 2: three and two straight up in their last twenty five

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Speaker 2: in the season's final game when they played the JV

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Speaker 2: team and the starters were glued to the bench. That's

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Speaker 2: not a bad body of work. But no, what's the

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Speaker 2: news cycle? New cycle? We're in a twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven news cycle. It's rolling over every day. It's rare

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Speaker 2: for any story to linger more than twenty four hours. Well,

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Speaker 2: this one is defeating that. It's the NonStop anger over

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Speaker 2: the Chief's history of controversial calls. It's now lasting years

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Speaker 2: and of course just fueled by a handful during their

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Speaker 2: thirty two to twenty nine went over Buffalo. But it's

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Speaker 2: just really new. Come down memory lane with me for

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Speaker 2: just a minute. Okay. Wasn't it a similar story for

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Speaker 2: the New England Patriots dynasty that the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 2: succeeded after New England's twenty eighteen NFCY championship went over

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Speaker 2: the Jaguars, which I'm sure you remember, which also included

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Speaker 2: a controversial pass interference call among many other flags. Believe

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Speaker 2: it or not, Forbes magazine, of all magazines, went in

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Speaker 2: with these damning memes and cartoons accusing the Chiefs, check

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Speaker 2: that accusing the Patriots of the same Michiganos. The Chiefs

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Speaker 2: are being preaded with now, but historically work with me historically. Overall,

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Speaker 2: this is how it goes with Jargernauts. They play, they win,

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Speaker 2: they win again. They more names than anybody else, and

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Speaker 2: people just get tired of that. And once enough people

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Speaker 2: are looking for excuses of signs and officials favoring the dynasty,

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Speaker 2: and see them in every play. Maybe refs feel drawn

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Speaker 2: to give some calls to veteran stars well in basketball,

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Speaker 2: know how to take advantage of the rules. You know,

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Speaker 2: there's an old saying be in the right place at

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Speaker 2: the right time, but that sentence doesn't then with the period.

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Speaker 2: It ends with a comma, be in the right place

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Speaker 2: at the right time. Comma and do something about it.

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Speaker 2: See today, Patrick Mahomes, he's basically the new Tom Brady

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Speaker 2: like Brady used to be. One unnamed NFL coach says

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Speaker 2: he's a lot like Tom Brady and that he's a

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Speaker 2: great manipulator. He offers a masterclass quote in leveraging rules

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Speaker 2: designed to protect quarterbacks, but there was none of that

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Speaker 2: on Sunday, though the Chiefs received a couple of major

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Speaker 2: calls that could have gone to Buffalo. Well, there was

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Speaker 2: a poll amongst fans on Monday, and here's where people stood.

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Speaker 2: Did Josh Allen gain the first down on that fourth

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Speaker 2: the line. I'm in agreeable with that, and if you

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Speaker 2: are going to take that to your grave, that's the

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Speaker 2: reason the Bills lost. Knock yourself out. How important were

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Speaker 2: the controversial calls from Worthy's catch to Alan sneak? Fifty

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Speaker 2: percent says they were game changing? Okay, you think what

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Speaker 2: you want to think, but the other fifty percent think

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Speaker 2: a other factors played a larger role. B the Bills

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Speaker 2: must share a blame for finding themselves in these positions,

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Speaker 2: or some even said of the respondents, No, it was

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Speaker 2: an evenly called game. By the way, this season, the

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Speaker 2: Eagles were called for the fourth most unnecessary roughness penalties.

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Speaker 2: So this Super Bowl, can they let it come down

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Speaker 2: this matchup two years ago. Because of a holding penalty.

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Speaker 2: Here's the reality, and you hate it. Patrick Maholmes. When

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Speaker 2: the situation demands greatness, there's nobody better in today's game,

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Speaker 2: and he's in. You know, as bum Phillips once said,

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the greatest in history. He may

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Speaker 2: take long to cole role. Patrick Mahomes just simply shines

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Speaker 2: the brightest when the stage is brightest. Maholmes has been nails.

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Speaker 2: He's right now. He's standing on the brink of NFL history.

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Speaker 2: If he could make the Chiefs the first team to

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Speaker 2: winking a nod to my mentor Dick Shep and Vincent

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Speaker 2: Lombardi's Packers, they won three straight and sixty six, sixty seven,

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls. Just note that if this comes to pass,

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Speaker 2: or even if it doesn't, where will Patrick Mahomes rank

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Speaker 2: among all the players who've been lucky enough to even

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Speaker 2: just get to one Super Bowl? All Right, I'll tell you,

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Speaker 2: let's have a little fun. I'm not going to break

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Speaker 2: down their NFL careers, just how they performed into Super

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Speaker 2: who's the guy you'd most want to win with the

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Speaker 2: game on the line, who would crush your names the

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Speaker 2: hardest if you were giving the chance right now? Number

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Speaker 2: one is Tom Brady. You know all the Super Bowls

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Speaker 2: he won seven, go went to ten of them. But

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Speaker 2: this is what Mahomes is aiming for, knowing full well

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Speaker 2: he went on two against Brady in the playoffs. Now,

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Speaker 2: Brady's first Super Bowl only saw him throw for a

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Speaker 2: buck forty five, of course, in a big time game

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Speaker 2: center stage in the biggest game of the year. Six

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Speaker 2: of Brady's Super Bowl wins or result of game winning

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Speaker 2: John Candy. Four super Bowls four to zero, two hundred

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Speaker 2: just for fun, Joe Montana even rushed for two touchdowns

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Speaker 2: at a Super Bowl and had accumulative one twenty seven

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Speaker 2: point eight passer rating. Now these are twenty Montana's numbers

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Speaker 2: are like today's numbers. And this is a guy who

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Speaker 2: took the field four decades ago. Now, half those games

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Speaker 2: the famous one in nineteen eighty nine against the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: But Montana he was like PlayStation compared to Atari twenty

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Speaker 2: six hundred. That's for you, Jason and Mike. Finally, finally,

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Speaker 2: I want to get this also off my chest. Regarding

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen. I get it. It's now going to be

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Speaker 2: pointed out that Allen is oh to four versus Kansas

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Speaker 2: hundred yards, eleven touchdowns, one interception. Defensively, the Bills who've

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Speaker 2: given out thirty eight, forty two, twenty seven, and thirty

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Speaker 2: a game. What you want Josh Allen to play defense to? Okay,

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Speaker 2: knock yourselves out, Winters, tell jokes, losers say shut up,

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Speaker 2: and deal. But in the poker game of Super Bowl life,

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Speaker 2: you better give the Chiefs their due. Don't blame the refs,

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Speaker 2: blame yourself for being caught up in the group. Think

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Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app. Is college basketball in session? Well, actually

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Speaker 2: it is, and after the Super Bowl people will start

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Speaker 2: to turn their attention to it more. Been wanting to

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Speaker 2: to get a little lull in the action. We're in

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Speaker 2: If you get my drift. Next weekend there's the biggest

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Speaker 2: one of the year. We're gonna welcome in Tommy Connally.

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Speaker 2: He's a caught former college basketball coach scout Director National

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Speaker 2: recruiter very much has his finger on the pulse on

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Speaker 2: the state of the state at college basketball. You know

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Speaker 2: What about college basketball. We're gonna chop that up coming

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Speaker 2: up and what it means. I'm Bernie Frattle. We're coming

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Speaker 2: National Director very much finger on the pulse on college basketball.

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Speaker 2: Say hello to Tom Canali.

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Speaker 5: Tom.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for jumping in tonight.

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Speaker 6: Man, Absolutely, Bernie, how are you my man?

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Speaker 2: Good? Real good? And listen. Is it my imagination before

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Speaker 2: it really dive into the meat and potatoes of what

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Speaker 2: Or is there is little buzz about the college basketball

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Speaker 2: as I've seen in quite some time, it just doesn't

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Speaker 6: No, You're not wrong, And I think that's because there's

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Speaker 6: I think there's so much parody this year that the

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Speaker 6: the college basketball buzz is it's gone down a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I mean, for me that's inside of it every day.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm used to what's happening inside the realms

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Speaker 6: come from, Bernie. And also keep in mind, miss those

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah no, there's no question. And the brackets and

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Speaker 2: And I guess I need to be fair. At least

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Speaker 2: people know enough about Duke. I believe Duke is still

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Speaker 2: currently number one, right with Cooper flag. Is that fair?

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Speaker 6: It's either Duke or Auburn.

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Speaker 6: I mentioned to look at that earlier today. It's one

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Speaker 6: And I've been saying for the last month and a half.

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Speaker 6: It's literally a coin toss for me on which team

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Speaker 2: It's very difficult to predict who can win six games

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Speaker 2: in a row survive in advance, as they say. Talking

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Speaker 2: with Tom Connolly, basketball and Saturday former Division one basketball coach,

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Speaker 2: scout scouting director, national recruiter. You made a statement about

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Speaker 2: piggyback on there are no great teams in college basketball?

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Speaker 2: How much of that as a byproduct? Now, we're forever

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Speaker 2: hearing a about the transfer portal in college football. The

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Speaker 6: And there are two separate items there, so let me

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Speaker 6: handle one at a time. For sure, at the transfer portal,

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Speaker 6: Don't get me wrong, but the players are running the

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Speaker 6: have them for one or two years. For a long time,

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Speaker 6: I can implement my stuff. I can put in my

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Speaker 6: The NIL has changed that to where the four year

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Speaker 6: my eyes, because they're constantly have to flip rosters over

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Speaker 6: every year. The players are in control, the coaches aren't

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Speaker 7: I don't like it.

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Speaker 6: I think we need a college commissioner to come in Burnie.

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Speaker 6: In my eyes, that can, you know, put some implications

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Speaker 6: in there to slow down this transferring, put a cap

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Speaker 6: on this nil free for all that's going everywhere. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I hold that thought. I'm going to get

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Speaker 2: you brought up a great point a few weeks back

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Speaker 2: what's interesting, Tommy is it's evident to me that, even

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you are onto something there, Bernie, because as a

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Speaker 6: Cali Pari will get it going as he has everywhere

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Speaker 6: It'll be interesting. See with Arkansas it is one of

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Speaker 6: My thing is what I'm thinking with Arkansas, the team

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Speaker 2: And that stands to reason. If all of a sudden

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Speaker 8: No, it's not.

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Speaker 6: And I just literally a few hours ago, had a

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Speaker 2: And that statement, that insightful statement, perfectly segues in depart

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Speaker 2: And in the last four years, we've seen Mike Kozhevski

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Speaker 6: Very easy that you know, the universe of Virginia is

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Speaker 6: The landscape for college basketball recruiting was changing, and it

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Speaker 2: a forty five day period, over two thousand college basketball

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Speaker 2: setting records. Do you believe that number will continue to

432
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Speaker 2: grow or is it going to start to level off

433
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Speaker 2: at some point? What are your thoughts.

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to level off for a couple

435
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Speaker 6: of reasons, and I want to touch point on the

436
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Speaker 6: number because I think there's the numbers are going to

437
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Speaker 6: be what they are, the number of people that go

438
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Speaker 6: into the portal. Here's the number I've always wanted to

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Speaker 6: know about the transfer portal, Bernie, and that's this. How

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Speaker 6: many guys in any sport, football, basketball, baseball, you name

441
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Speaker 6: it put their name into the portal and didn't play

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Speaker 6: or have no record or stats from the school a

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Speaker 6: they were at, But because they didn't play or didn't

444
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Speaker 6: like the coach, they put their name in the portal

445
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Speaker 6: thinking somebody else is going to grab them when they

446
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Speaker 6: have no stats or very little playing time at all.

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Speaker 6: I'd like to know what that number is, and then

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Speaker 6: what is the number left over the number of guys

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Speaker 6: that are in the portal that have significant numbers and

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Speaker 6: stats that it could be looked at from another school.

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Speaker 6: To touch on that question, I think it's going to

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Speaker 6: slow down because now we have the extra year of

453
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Speaker 6: COVID year is going to be gone, So I think

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Speaker 6: you're going to slowly see that transfer portal numbers slow

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Speaker 6: down a little bit. The other thing I keep hearing

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Speaker 6: is that there are talks about apostible NC DOUBLEA commissioner.

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Speaker 6: And if so, then I think you're gonna start seeing

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Speaker 6: implementations of you know, now you hear guys have transferred

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Speaker 6: twice or three times, they're waiting for the NC DOUBLEA

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Speaker 6: to give them the approval if they can play or not.

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Speaker 6: I think we may see something going back to a

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Speaker 6: limit of how many times you can transfer. And I

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Speaker 6: wouldn't be surprised if the NC double A, if a

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Speaker 6: commissioner comes in says say right now, it's the one

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Speaker 6: time transfer rule, immediately eligible, but maybe after you transfer,

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Speaker 6: Once you transfer a second time, you sit a year

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Speaker 6: and you lose an elogie years of eligibility that we

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Speaker 6: had years ago. I think if that got implemented, then

469
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Speaker 6: you really start to see the portal slow down.

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Speaker 2: Well that's a great point, and that Jim Harble actually

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Speaker 2: suggested that when you still in Michigan three years ago,

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Speaker 2: and there needs to be some guardrails, and why your

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Speaker 2: premise makes a hell of a lot of sense. I

474
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Speaker 2: just have this sneaking suspicion that's going to be a

475
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Speaker 2: tough nut to crack, because this player empowerment is here

476
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Speaker 2: to stay. You mentioned something guys entering the transfer portal

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Speaker 2: that don't really have necessarily a resume to speak of.

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Speaker 2: How about one step further, Tommy, how about guys who

479
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Speaker 2: went to the transfer portal who really don't know if

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Speaker 2: they want to transfer or not. They just figure they

481
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Speaker 2: dip their toe in the water and if somebody comes

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Speaker 2: along with more money, and what the hell, it's the

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Speaker 2: cya thing I know that's happened in football. Maybe they

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Speaker 2: pull their name back out if it turns out they're

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Speaker 2: good where they're at, or they're trying to hedge their

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Speaker 2: bets or try to leverage their limited time on college

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Speaker 2: to even more money somewhere else. Do you see that

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Speaker 2: as part of gamesmanship in the transfer portal in college basketball?

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Speaker 6: I do. And here's the thing with my thoughts on this.

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Speaker 6: And I know there are some coaches out there that

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Speaker 6: if a guy comes in and says, coach, I don't

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Speaker 6: think it's working here, I need to make more money

493
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Speaker 6: for my family or whatever it is, I'm going to

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Speaker 6: put my name.

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Speaker 8: In the portal.

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Speaker 6: And they dip that toe in the portal and they're

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Speaker 6: not getting what they want, and then they want to

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Speaker 6: come back to the coach that they just left and say,

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Speaker 6: you know what, coach, I changed my mind. I think

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Speaker 6: I want to come back. I know there's coaches out

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Speaker 6: there to be going. I've already filled your spot. The

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Speaker 6: second you tell me you're leaving, I'm looking to feel it.

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Speaker 9: I'm not waiting to see if you're.

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Speaker 6: Going to come back or not. And I think there's

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Speaker 6: coaches out there will go. I don't want him back.

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Speaker 6: If he wasn't happy here the first time, what's going

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Speaker 6: to make him stay another years? He's going to be

508
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Speaker 6: looking for the first thing out. And the other thing

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Speaker 6: that I think is going to make a little bit

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Speaker 6: of a difference here is the NCAA has implemented, you know,

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Speaker 6: starting here in twenty five, there's no more national letter

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Speaker 6: of Intent, So there's no binding agreement that's going to

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Speaker 6: keep these kids at well. All they're getting when they

514
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Speaker 6: go is going to be some sort of a financial

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Speaker 6: agreement scholarship paper that they're going to put their signature

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Speaker 6: on that says I agree to these terms of this

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Speaker 6: kind of money. But there's no national leutter of intent,

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Speaker 6: so they can walk out the door anytime they want

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Speaker 6: because there's no binding agreement that says I'm going to

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Speaker 6: attend school A for the school year. So you might

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Speaker 6: see guys leaving school, leaving sports a lot earlier than

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Speaker 6: we have and already going forward because they don't like

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Speaker 6: what a coach said, how a practice win, or they

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Speaker 6: got benched, or they were late for practice and they

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Speaker 6: didn't get to start. They might just go a lot

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Speaker 6: out of here. So I'm waiting to see how this

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Speaker 6: plays out.

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Speaker 2: One last thing, and what I'd like to do, Tommy,

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Speaker 2: is when March rolls around and the brackets are out,

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts. While we were talking, I got a

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Speaker 2: tweet for one of my listeners, Dan Rivera, who listened

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Speaker 2: to BYU Kansas State of the schools who've been extremely

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Speaker 2: active in the transfer portal. You mentioned something just kind

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Speaker 2: of off the cuff the last time we talked about

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Speaker 2: you think one of the next things we might see

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Speaker 2: are players start a season, they look at the landscape,

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Speaker 2: they get four or five games in, they realize, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not in the rotation where I want to be here.

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Speaker 2: This isn't what I hope. They just jump ship right

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Speaker 2: there and start preparing for the next team in the portal,

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Speaker 2: which could even wreak more havoc because again, a lot

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Speaker 2: of players only care about themselves. Do you anticipate that

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Speaker 2: being the next I mean, MaTx Luca did it here

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Speaker 2: at UNLV after they started out three and other quarterback

545
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Speaker 2: not trying to call him out, but facts as facts,

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Speaker 2: you believe that'll be the next wave of player emparlent

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Speaker 2: powerment vs V. Transfer portal in college basketball.

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Speaker 6: I really do, Especially now without Nash letter of intent,

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Speaker 6: I can see guys jumping ship.

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Speaker 8: Real quick now.

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Speaker 6: They're going to have a real quick trigger based on

552
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Speaker 6: because let's face it, when you're being recruited to a school,

553
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Speaker 6: the coach is gonna wind you and dine you and

554
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Speaker 6: sell you and why you should come play for their program,

555
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Speaker 6: and they're going to buy into everything. They're going to

556
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Speaker 6: get there, and they're in their head.

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Speaker 9: Going this is all going to come true.

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Speaker 6: And as soon as one of those things don't come true,

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Speaker 6: instead of having an adult conversation with the coach and

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Speaker 6: sitting down face to face and working it out as

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Speaker 6: a young adult to another adult, and if they're in

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Speaker 6: their twenties, then an adult to a coach and say, coach,

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Speaker 6: you said this, but I'm not getting this back. That

564
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Speaker 6: conversation is not going to happen, Bernie. They're just going

565
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Speaker 6: to go, I'm out of here and leave because now

566
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 6: it's too easy to leave and jump you and put

567
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Speaker 6: your name in the portal. And coaches in players I

568
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Speaker 6: don't think are having the conversations that we used to

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Speaker 6: have in the past about trying to help a kid

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Speaker 6: and change a kid, and change the personalities and change

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Speaker 6: some dynamics to make it best for everybody. Nowadays, they

572
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Speaker 6: won't even talk. They just jump on their phone and go,

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Speaker 6: I'm in the portal, I'm leaving, And sometimes coaches don't

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Speaker 6: even know the kids have gone.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He covered a lot of really good ground and it's

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Speaker 2: all true, great stuff. Tommy, appreciate it. Like I said,

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Speaker 2: let's try to connect with March here have you on

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Speaker 2: as we get to the actual tournament. We'll talk about

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00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: some things happening between the lines, but you certainly chronicle

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Speaker 2: the reality at college basketball in twenty twenty five. And

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Speaker 2: that last part is the real lament of tom Izzo,

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Speaker 2: whose greatest strength has been helping kids overcome.

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Speaker 6: You know, agree, agree ye.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff, Tommy, outstanding and we'll talk soon.

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Speaker 6: Pale, all right, take care, you have a good one.

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Speaker 2: Thanks. That's Tommy Canally, former college basketball coach, recruiter, National

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Speaker 2: Recruiter Director SCO Scout Scouting and very much has his

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Speaker 2: finger on the pulse of college basketball. And this is

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Speaker 2: the state of the state in college basketball. Coming up,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna set up the Midnight Hour, which is twenty

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Speaker 2: minutes away eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six sixty three

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Speaker 2: sixty nine. We very much look forward to your calls.

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Speaker 2: It's the callers who make the Midnight Hour eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 2: nine and nine on Fox. We'll have another smorgasboard of

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Speaker 2: about four crazy intense topics, and this may be one

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Speaker 2: of our most raucous. This may be one of our

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Speaker 2: most raucous midnight hours because I'm looking for some real

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Speaker 2: disagreement on a couple of the topics. Remember what I

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Speaker 2: said in my opening monologue about the allegations in the

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Speaker 2: group think echo chamber and the accusations regarding the chiefs. Well,

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Speaker 2: the brother of a famous referee weighed in, and this

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Speaker 2: is real crazy talk. That's just a tip of the iceberg.

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Speaker 2: As we set up the Midnight Hour coming up, Hi,

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Speaker 2: Bernie Friderwick kemany lyon from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: tyre Act dot Com Studios. Keep it locked or listening

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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right,

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Speaker 2: back at the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio, come

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Speaker 2: to you live from the Taract dot Com studios. Here

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Speaker 2: we are twelve minutes away from midnight here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Midnight literally perhaps figuredly where you're at, but it is

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Speaker 2: the midnight hour. We look forward to your calls eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 2: nine nine six six three six nine, eight seven, seven,

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Speaker 2: nine to nine on Fox. We do it every Friday

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Speaker 2: night at twelve midnight Pacific time. Got some really good

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Speaker 2: stuff this week. It's just too good. All right, So

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Speaker 2: you heard my opening monologue. I don't subscribe to the

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Speaker 2: loser's lament chiefs haters who think the refs got it

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Speaker 2: in for him. But when when people get something in

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Speaker 2: their mind, Okay, for the most part, you're gonna it's

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Speaker 2: gonna take a pickaxe to get it out of it,

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Speaker 2: and it's probably still gonna work. When some convinced of something,

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Speaker 2: they're convinced to something. And yes, there are people who

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Speaker 2: are convinced the NFL is rigged. By the way a

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Speaker 2: renowned referee retired. Who now you see him on the

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Speaker 2: NFL broadcasts, Dean Blandino. Apparently his brother is quote convinced,

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Speaker 2: convinced that the league is rigged. All right, this is

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Speaker 2: how bad it's gotten. You're talking about the brother of

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Speaker 2: a highly respected Fox rules analyst, former NFL senior VP

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Speaker 2: of officiating, the man from whom current replay system was

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Speaker 2: designed and developed. He's got a brother who is wearing

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Speaker 2: the tinfoil hat, who thinks the league is rigged? Now

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Speaker 2: for their record? Do I know? Hell no, but some

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Speaker 2: people do. Remember now when it comes to the man

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Speaker 2: Night hour, the most boring conversations are when everybody agrees

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Speaker 2: we want this agreement. We may spend out of control tonight.

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you I'm good in at least one call.

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Speaker 2: The league wants the Chiefs to win. The league wanted

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Speaker 2: the Patriots to win. The league likes Brady and belongs

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Speaker 2: with It's all about the refs, right, Okay, that's topic

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Speaker 2: number one. Definitely want to hear what you got to

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Speaker 2: say about that. The coaching carousel is basically complete. The

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Speaker 2: Saints are going to hire Kellen Moore. Which of these hires,

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Speaker 2: these six hires, do you think is gonna work, which

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Speaker 2: is not gonna work? Definitely want to hear from you.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel about Pete Carroll? How do you

647
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 2: feel about Kellen Moore? How do you feel about Ben Johnson?

648
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: How do you feel about Aaron Glenn in New York?

649
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: Which just jumps out at you as to Yeah, that

650
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: one's gonna work, that one's got no chance. You get

651
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: the picture right, which leads us into our third subject.

652
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: Because these things never go away, it's not too soon

653
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 2: to start looking ahead and asking yourself which NFL coaches

654
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: are on the hot seat for twenty twenty five, for

655
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 2: the season even starts. I'll tell you what. I'll lead

656
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: the witness here on this one. I'll tease this one

657
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: a little bit. As much as I like him and

658
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: respect him, how could it not be Brian Dable? He

659
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 2: won nine games in twenty twenty two, fell to six

660
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: and twenty three, and what they won three games in

661
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four or something like that. The Giants now

662
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: need a fresh start at quarterback, and I think they

663
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 2: might need a fresh start in the coaching staff. It's

664
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 2: been an anemic performance all the way around. Brian Dables,

665
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 2: respected as a football guy, and deserves a lot of

666
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: credit for helping Josh Allen early in his career. If

667
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: he's not on the hot seat, I don't know who

668
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: the hell is. Well, maybe Shane Steichen of the Indianapolis Colts.

669
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Speaker 2: You know, he's got no real future there with Anthony

670
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: Richards and you can think he does. They've made no

671
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 2: real strides provement right. There was talk that they would

672
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: bail on Shane Steichen after a second year. They didn't.

673
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 2: They did on Antonio. Appears I have to wonder, honestly

674
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: if Zach Taylor might be they let Vic Fanny. You know, look,

675
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 2: I'm not going to ask an answer. I want to

676
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: hear from you folks, souse. So question number one, do you,

677
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: honestly do you think the NFL is rigged? It's incredible

678
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: what we're seeing from in pro football talk from Dean

679
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: Blambdino's brother. Again, I don't, but he does not Dean

680
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 2: Blandino's brother. The coaching carousel, you see all the new hires,

681
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: Which do you like, which don't you like? Which you

682
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: think of work? Which don't you think of work? The

683
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: third is, let's look ahead, which coach is on the

684
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: hot seat already before next year even starts the NFL

685
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: and the fourth one, I had to add it. They

686
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: made you had to what the hell are we really

687
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: doing with Bronnie James Now? They put him on the

688
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: floor for fifteen minutes in Washington or checked at in Philadelphia.

689
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxi rode him like a stick horse, completely overwhelmed,

690
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: completely overmatched. It's not funny anymore. Then Bronnie gets to

691
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: play again on Thursday night and a forty point Lakers win.

692
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: They put him in in mop up time, or whatever

693
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: the hell you want to call it. It's like when

694
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 2: you go to the varsity basketball game and you watch

695
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: the JV team and then the varsity game starts. They're

696
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: up by forty. It's the final day of the year,

697
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: and the student manager, who everybody loves, says, put him in.

698
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,439
Speaker 2: They put him in and he dribbles it all around

699
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: and I was going shoot, shoot, shooting. What the hell?

700
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: He launches a twenty eight footer and banks off the

701
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: rim and the backboard goes up and hits a rafter

702
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: and drops through the bucket. Everybody goes bananas. They Cole

703
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: and Bronnie MVP and they went bananas. They're making fun

704
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 2: of him. No, I don't condone that either. Okay, I've

705
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 2: never once met made fun of Brownie. All Off said

706
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: is he's not an NBA player. So tell me what

707
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: the hell we're doing here, all right? Is the NFL rigged?

708
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 2: Which in the coaching carousel do you like? Which don't

709
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: you like? Which you'll work, which won't work? Which NFL

710
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 2: coach is on the hot seat next year already? And

711
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,919
Speaker 2: Bronnie James yours your thoughts, Bronnie James, say no more,

712
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: Bronnie James eight seven seven nine nine six six three

713
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: six nine. The May night hours here, keep it locked.

714
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: The Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

715
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Speaker 1: Don't listen, hey, no, Fox Sports Radio Radio.

716
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 2: That's right, you heard the man. Bernie Fraddle Show keeps

717
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Speaker 2: rolling right along. My name is Bernie Frowner. We're come

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Speaker 2: to your linefro the tarat dot com studios here in

719
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723
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Speaker 2: lining up for it to get to all you be patient,

724
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 2: really want to hear from you. Hey, is the NFL rigged?

725
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: We're hiring the new coaching carousel will work? Which one won't?

726
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: Who's already on the hot seat for next year? And

727
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 2: Bronnie James, come on, man, are you serious? Yep, you

728
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: know it's time for the midnight Hour. Really looking forward

729
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: to the callers tonight at this is going to be

730
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Speaker 2: a fun one. Well they all are. Let's start with

731
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Speaker 2: Mark and maryland Mark, you lead us left tonight. Start

732
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Speaker 2: with whichever topic that is most near and dear to

733
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: your heart.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Bernie, Hi, Bernie, you're the best. You should be

735
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Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame. Okay, no doubt about it.

736
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Speaker 7: You've got more topics than I've heard in a lot

737
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 7: of weeks from you, So you might have to walk

738
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 7: me through it. First of all, the NFL is not rigged.

739
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 7: That's absolutely ridiculous. The Kansas City conspiracy is.

740
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 8: Just ludicrous.

741
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 7: Okay. Patrick Mahomes is the best young quarterback I've ever

742
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 7: seen in my life. I'm sixty plus years. Eventually he's

743
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 7: going to if it keeps on going, he's going to

744
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 7: take break. He's all right. The well, ahall of the curve,

745
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 7: it's just ridiculous. And everybody's got a jerk brother uh

746
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 7: uh uh in the league.

747
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: I mean, homes.

748
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 7: Don't get condemned by your family. Everybody's got crazy relative

749
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Speaker 7: all right, Bronnie James, I blame all this on lebron

750
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 7: lebron is going to ruin his legacy by pushing this

751
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 7: boy way past. He knew early.

752
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 11: I think Bryce is going to be the one.

753
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 7: I think Bryce is going to be the one. But

754
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 7: but Bronnie, he did everything right. I think he just

755
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 7: pushed him. It's sad, it really is. He needs to

756
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 7: have a you know, he needs to have a father

757
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 7: son conversation and set him down. There's no that's no shame.

758
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 7: You know what I mean. Go go go run your

759
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 7: daddy's corporation, Jesus Christ, and you know what.

760
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 2: Hang on there, Mark, this is really solid stuff. I

761
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: just won't say one thing. I was okay when he

762
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: wanted to play with this on they had this manufacturer event,

763
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: they made the history. Fine, but why are they trying

764
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: to continue to sell us that this guy is really

765
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 2: a legitimate NBA prospect. I I've seen enough, have you?

766
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 7: Of course, we've seen enough. Everybody saw enough. It's it's indisputable.

767
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 7: It's never I blame again. I'm gonna say I blame Lebron.

768
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 7: He knows he's using his pressure. Lebron to me is

769
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 7: the second greatest player ever in basketball. Okay. I remember

770
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 7: him on Sports Illustrated when when when he was called

771
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 7: the chosen the one I said, three, yep, I remember,

772
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 7: you know, I remember that, and he's lived up to it.

773
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 7: And Lebron is the greatest basketball player at forty years

774
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 7: old I've ever seen in my life. And he's probably

775
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 7: the greatest athlete. But being an athlete doesn't mean you

776
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 7: the best player, because he ain't. Michael Jordan, I don't

777
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 7: even want to hear the debate. But that's not the point.

778
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 7: All I'm saying is, you know, it's it's you're not

779
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 7: your daddy. I mean, it's not you don't even need

780
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 7: to play like you that just run the millions, man,

781
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 7: just you know. And I think it's a shame, and

782
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 7: I think it's going to reflect on Lebron, its favoritism,

783
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 7: and it's nepotism at its worst, and it's getting out

784
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 7: of hand. Okay, that boy don't need to play no more.

785
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 7: I think the youngest son has ability Okay, but Bronnie, Okay,

786
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 7: you gave.

787
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 8: It a good try.

788
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 7: It's no you know, just sit down now. As far

789
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 7: as the coaching highs the Dallas Cowboys, I'm a Redskins fan.

790
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 7: I refuse to calling the commanders. That's two corporate for me.

791
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 8: Okay.

792
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 7: I saw all four Super Bowls. I go back with

793
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 7: Billy Killen and Sonny Jerkson. Now, okay, and eventually that

794
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 7: name's gonna change. Okay, So anyway, that's not navigator there.

795
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 7: The two best coaching highs were the Detroit Lions defensive

796
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 7: and offensive coordinator. Those guys are solid. The worst one

797
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 7: was the bron Gotten Heimer thing. Wasn't nobody looking for

798
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 7: Brian shotting Heimer? He didn't get a call nowhere. Jerry's

799
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 7: gonna run that into the ground. Okay, he's already doing it.

800
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 7: And I'm happy to say that because I'm a Redskin fan,

801
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 7: so you know, I'm I'm I'm happy to heap all

802
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 7: the turmoil on the Cowboys. Okay, I forgot your other topic.

803
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: What was you real?

804
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: Quickly? Who's on the hot seat for twenty twenty five

805
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: of the NFL?

806
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 7: Jesus, we'll run through the candidates again.

807
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 2: Well, I just threw a couple out there. I think

808
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: it's gotta be Brian Davil Shane Steiking. Right, that's all

809
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: those are my two.

810
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Speaker 7: Quickies love Dabel. It's not Dabel's fault. Let me tell

811
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Speaker 7: you something. I'm glad you.

812
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 8: I'm glad you refreshed my memory.

813
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 7: Let me tell you something. I'm i'm a, I'm a,

814
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 7: i'm a. I'm gonna come a Redskins fan of reviews.

815
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 7: They commanders again, and I'm gonna.

816
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 8: Stop food with that.

817
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 7: Okay. Ron Rivera was brought in here to bring in

818
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 7: order and structure.

819
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 3: Okay.

820
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 7: Most quarterbacks are married to their most coaches. I'm married

821
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 7: to their quarterbacks.

822
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 8: When when?

823
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 7: When when the Rob Rivera's last role was the guy

824
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 7: from Philadelphia?

825
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 8: What's his name?

826
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 7: Help me out, Bernie, they got quarterback?

827
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 2: Huh? Ron Rivera's quarterback?

828
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, no, no, no, he signed the guy

829
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Speaker 7: from Philadelphia. He was Philadelphia's second. I mean he was

830
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 7: Kansasity No, not Poles Carthon Wentz.

831
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Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, Now when that.

832
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 7: Didn't work out, that's sunky Okay, Brian Dabell, I bring

833
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 7: that up because Daniel Jones did not work out. Brian

834
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 7: Dabele is a great coach.

835
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Speaker 2: Here's what's interesting, and you're so outstanding. Mark. I wish

836
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: I could give you more time, but I really got

837
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 2: to get to the rest of the folks. And by

838
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 2: the way, top credit to you on Jimmy Carter's brother

839
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: Billy the even Billy beer. Uh, here's the problem, Daniel

840
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: Jones actually got to the playoffs and when a playoff game,

841
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: but they've been regressing every year. So anyway, Uh, just

842
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: really strong stuff. Appreciate you Mark a lot. Don't be

843
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: a strange Paul in North Carolina. You're up next.

844
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Speaker 12: Hey, good evening, Bernie. Hey, let me be the first

845
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 12: to wish you happy February. Said man, let me start

846
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 12: with your topics. First of all, is the NFL rigged?

847
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 8: Bernie?

848
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 12: You're talking to a huge Buffalo Bills fan. I eat

849
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 12: seed and breath Buffalo Hill football, and I'm ready to

850
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 12: tell you hell no, the league is not rigged. Busfalo

851
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 12: did not play well enough, as you highlighted to win

852
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 12: the game. If you played down to where you let

853
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 12: the officials decide a game, you didn't play well enough

854
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 12: to win. The officials making calls that didn't go our way. Sure,

855
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 12: but you know what, Bernie, were probably fifteen more mysed

856
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 12: or failed plays and poor coaching decisions that Buffalo made

857
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 12: to lost the game, not the referees. And until you

858
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 12: have your two biggest markets, then New York Giants and

859
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 12: the New York Jets absolutely being terrible, and the Dallas

860
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 12: Cowboys being terrible when the San Francisco forty nine ers injured,

861
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 12: of course, but until those guys start making the playoffs

862
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 12: every year, you can't say the league is rigged.

863
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: The league was rigged.

864
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 12: That's those guys aren't going to suck.

865
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 2: Well, I said it better myself, but you are aware

866
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 2: of what's blowing in the wind out there when it's

867
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 2: being written about by Mike Florio and Dean Billandino's brother

868
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 2: and a great call by Mark. Everybody's got a goofyr brother.

869
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: It's out there. I had to address it, but you're

870
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: starting on anything else.

871
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 12: And again, yeah, but again, I'm a digger, bills him,

872
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 12: and you can't say the league is rigged.

873
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 3: To me.

874
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 12: The best coaching higher in the cycle was Pete Carroll,

875
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 12: who knows how long he's going to be there, but

876
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 12: he's just going to come in and study the ship.

877
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 12: The raiders are all over the place, and I think

878
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 12: that's more than anything. Until you get stability, until you

879
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 12: get somebody in there with some common sense, you're not

880
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 12: going to be successful. So I think he's going to

881
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 12: come in study the waters, you know, be a great

882
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 12: bridge candidate for the coach is on the hot seat.

883
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 12: But got me get back to my Buffalo Bills. I

884
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 12: think he's got to be Sean McDermott.

885
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: He might be, he might be.

886
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 12: Listen, he's done a hell of a job and from

887
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 12: what he took over to where the Bills are now

888
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 12: absolutely fantastic. But eventually, Bernie, you've got to have somebody

889
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 12: in there that's going to take you to the next step.

890
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 12: And it's kind of the Marty Schottenheimer. You know, you

891
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,879
Speaker 12: keep winning, you keep winning, you keep winning, but you're

892
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 12: not getting to the to the to the top. And

893
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 12: there's every time, every game, there's always some decisions that

894
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 12: you can circle with like Toron mcgermott, what the hell

895
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 12: were you doing? You alluded to James Cook not touching

896
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 12: the ball. Yeah, butage six areas of carriage and.

897
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: They got what the hell happened? What was that about? Right?

898
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 12: And something that very few people are talking about Bernie.

899
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 12: Buffalo Bills and the Kansas City Chiefs each scored four

900
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 12: touchdowns to take the one field goal, and Buffalo lost

901
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 12: by three. Why because you started chasing points early, you

902
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 12: took up I.

903
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: Was going to talk about that in my opening mindlogue.

904
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: Why the hell are you going for two twice in failing?

905
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 2: You're right, all excellent.

906
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 12: Points, So so I think again, Bernie, Sean mcdermot's on

907
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 12: the hell of a job. So you know, if he

908
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 12: doesn't win a Super Bowl will always be on air.

909
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 12: Quotes of Bill's legend quickly.

910
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: Paul, just a few seconds. Do you carry a weigh

911
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 2: it on? Brownie?

912
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 12: James, Bernie, I've got nothing more to add. It's it's

913
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 12: you know, it's it is what it is, and I

914
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 12: don't think it's anything.

915
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 3: Wasn't that?

916
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 2: Thanks a lot, Paul, appreciate you. Jim in Massachusetts, how

917
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: are you doing, buddy? What's going on tonight?

918
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 8: And what's going on? Bernie?

919
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 9: Yes, it is rigg Let's face facts. There's so much

920
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,479
Speaker 9: money involved with gambling and everything in the NFL's court

921
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 9: is rigged. Just look back at the tuck rule with Brady.

922
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 9: If that wasn't the Raiders, any other team that was

923
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 9: a fumble, all right. They missed a call down the

924
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 9: super Dome in the playoffs on the corner cliff pass interfearence.

925
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 9: They didn't throw a flag, even the immaculate conception. They

926
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 9: didn't have replayback then, but the rule was it hit

927
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 9: the guy, you're not supposed to be able to.

928
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 8: Get it and go in. They did.

929
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 9: So, you know, when there's so much money involved and

930
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 9: all this type of stuff, of course there's the issues

931
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 9: going on there.

932
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 2: You know. It's ironically, of all the people that I

933
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 2: thought and that might imply that it is rigg you

934
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: would have been the last one. But I was back

935
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 2: to your opinion.

936
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 9: Respect I rep for thirty years, not on that level.

937
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 9: But you cannot discount egos and people in positions and

938
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 9: power and everything. It should be decided by the players.

939
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 9: But you know, people human, You get under somebody's skin

940
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 9: even though they're out there and strike. Sure it's over.

941
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 9: You know, you can't control stuff like that. But then

942
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 9: then all the stuff behind the scenes and everything, it's

943
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 9: just it's gotten too out of here, you know.

944
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 2: All right, Well, you were part of the your your

945
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,600
Speaker 2: your team, the New England page that you're part of

946
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: the coaching carousel this year. Is Mike Vrabel on the

947
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 2: top of your list?

948
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 9: Is one of these riper Let's start with I'm not

949
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 9: a New England Patriots fan. My team's New York Giants.

950
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's get I could watch.

951
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 9: A black and white TV all right.

952
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 2: Is Brian Dable on the hot seat?

953
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 7: Of course?

954
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: And Mark brought up a great point. He might not

955
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 2: be his faully, don't have a quarterback when he's been regressing.

956
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: Go ahead, you got the you got the floor.

957
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, No, he's gone. You know, you know everything is

958
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 9: about is about winning. You know, you can have a

959
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 9: guy there and in trouble all the time, got stuff

960
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 9: going on as long as you're winning. Knowing kids all

961
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 9: about winning. So yeah, he's gone. I hope they get

962
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 9: secure and try to get back on.

963
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: The right track.

964
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 9: I think they need a new general manager or anything.

965
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 9: I think the guy that's going to do the best

966
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 9: is Pete Carroll because he's a class stack, he's character.

967
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: And you remember, yeah, you gotta remember his career.

968
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 7: He was run out of New England.

969
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 9: Oh man, when he coached to England.

970
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: I remember that very well.

971
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 9: Oh it was brutal. You think the guy in New

972
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 9: York's on the fire.

973
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: You should have seen that.

974
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: Listen. He was hard at USC. The headlines were not grady.

975
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: He was their fourth choice at USC. And uh, yeah,

976
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna agreement with you, He'll say real quickly, Jim.

977
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: Last week, I can't let you go without talking about Brownie.

978
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,439
Speaker 9: You know what, I feel so bad for the kid.

979
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 9: I don't know what he's doing. He's being mocked. I

980
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 9: was never a Lebron fan. I mean, he's got great talent,

981
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 9: but he can't keep his mouth shut. You know, you

982
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 9: never heard Bird or a team Elijah Wan or all

983
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 9: these Dominique, all these great players run out of his mouth.

984
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 9: The only one that he Bron reminds me of his

985
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 9: lamp beer. Just can't keep your mouth shut, just play.

986
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 9: And you know what, he doesn't have talent. Everybody knows

987
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 9: and everybody and the two people that know it the

988
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 9: most is Lebron and Bronni And they're just making a

989
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 9: joke out of you know what. And I don't think

990
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 9: the other players like it either.

991
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: You start, I'm starting to wonder, Thanks, Jim. As always, Look,

992
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: it was fine an opening night when they wanted to

993
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: get Bronnie on the floor and create history, but there

994
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 2: feels like they're force feeding a false Kyle Jean, Butch,

995
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 2: Max Poppy, Butch and Jeremy, this is awesome. Kyle Jean, Butch,

996
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 2: Max Poppy. We are all up next in that order.

997
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: Don't go nowhere, looking forward to hearing from you. The

998
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 2: Midnight Hour is off and running on Bernie Fraddle Company

999
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,800
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1000
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: Keep it locked and listen to the Bernie Frattle Show

1001
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,080
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1003
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,520
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1005
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1006
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 2: We're back on the Bernie Frattle Show. The Midnight Hour

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Speaker 2: is off and running eight seven seven nine nine six

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Speaker 2: six three six nine eight seven seven ninety nine one Fox.

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Speaker 2: Kyle in Vegas joins Carle. Thanks for your patients, trying

1010
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 2: to get to everybody tonight. How you doing, Buddy man?

1011
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 10: Celebrating my birthday, weekend birthdays and.

1012
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 2: Birthday Sunday, Happy Birthday.

1013
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 10: Appreciate that, I appreciate that. Let's start off with Bernie James. Okay,

1014
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 10: that's a man in the NBA right now by the

1015
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 10: name of Michaeljeffrey Jordan who had two sons that both

1016
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 10: failed at basketball. Okay, Marcus Williams, and I'm sorry Marcus

1017
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 10: Jordan and his brother Jeffrey, who are absolutely horrible. They're good,

1018
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 10: but they're good college basketball players, average minimal. But you

1019
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 10: have Bronnie James. Out of twenty three thousand rookie NBA

1020
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 10: players that ever grace that court, he is six point

1021
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 10: three percent. He's in the bottom of the bottom of

1022
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 10: the bottom.

1023
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 8: Of the barrel. Okay, he runs.

1024
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 10: Twenty by twenty two, nine hundred and ninety seven of

1025
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 10: all time, Brookies. That's horrible, lebron talk to you boy

1026
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 10: pulling out the game. Do something different, have him do

1027
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 10: something different. It's not going to be the same for

1028
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 10: Bryce either. I'm sorry. The hype is way too much.

1029
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 10: They're over hyping them. They're playing it out there. You

1030
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 10: have other kids with the last name Julia who have

1031
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 10: no father that's ever played the NBA that are better

1032
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 10: than this young nun.

1033
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, You're not wrong. I mean, it's yeah,

1034
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 2: let's get to this NFL rig thing.

1035
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 10: Kyle, Now, I'm going with that.

1036
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: Next, I'm going with that next.

1037
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 10: I think it's fifty to fifty. People got to remember

1038
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 10: referees have scouting reports on players too. They do their

1039
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 10: job just like every other player in those leagues, whether

1040
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 10: it's football, basketball, or whatever it may be. In the

1041
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 10: chief case, yeah, they watch out for more defensive plays.

1042
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 10: They might look at Mahomes as the poster boy, the

1043
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 10: poster child of the face of the league, and they're

1044
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 10: gonna do whatever they can to protect him. Now, at

1045
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 10: the same token, players have always said, and I play,

1046
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 10: you know, college ball myself, players have always said, in

1047
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 10: order to not let the rest dictate the outcome of

1048
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 10: the game, we have to be up by so much

1049
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 10: much so instead of worrying and concentrating about what they're doing,

1050
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 10: let's focus on our game and play our game now.

1051
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 10: Buffalo should have realized the same mistakes that they made.

1052
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 10: They're probably kicking themselves in the bucks right now, because

1053
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 10: had the Ravens converted their two two point conversions that

1054
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 10: they failed on, they would have beat Buffalo. So hands down,

1055
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 10: you have to history repeated itself and you did the

1056
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 10: same thing. Don't let the referees dictate the outcome of

1057
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 10: the game.

1058
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 2: Four times now, Kyle, four times now, Buffalo is gone in.

1059
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 10: They're gonna stack up on the fourth and ones. They're

1060
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 10: gonna they're gonna cover the A gaps, are gonna cover

1061
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 10: those gaps that Josh Allen likes to get to. And

1062
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 10: you went for three different times and failed and even

1063
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 10: let the refs fail you on one, regardless of what

1064
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 10: the case may have been. Now I got one better

1065
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 10: for you. The best hire you know is the Chicago Bears,

1066
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 10: who hands down, that's the best higher where I'm optimistic.

1067
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 10: I'm not overly optimistic. We're gonna be fine, I believe.

1068
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 10: Give him a year, you know, a good, a good,

1069
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 10: solid year. He's gonna get ot as in, he's gonna

1070
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 10: work and develop Caleb Williams. I'm happy to see that.

1071
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 8: The weirdest hire.

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Speaker 10: And you know I got to bring this up. How

1073
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 10: did Matt Eberflus get another job?

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00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: So?

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00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 10: I mean Dallas was gonna have four time outs this year?

1076
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? They were good. That's your calling card every week. Look,

1077
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: I was mainly sticking with head coaches. But you're not wrong.

1078
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 2: And you know why this happens because people have a

1079
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: tendency to hire who they know. But but the point

1080
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 2: that I was making, I'm.

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Speaker 10: Who was who was Shottenheimer. Nobody was lining up for

1082
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 10: this doom. Nobody was looking for him.

1083
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 7: Nobody was like.

1084
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, we gotta go get Shotenheimer first. Let's

1085
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 10: go get him number one overall, Jerry, what are you doing?

1086
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 10: You're running your organization into the ground instead of America's team.

1087
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 10: It's going to be America's dumpster fire here in a minute,

1088
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 10: you know. And every time that I think of them now,

1089
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 10: I just remember too going to the middle of a

1090
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 10: field and doing that Jesus Christ posed, And just that's

1091
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 10: how bad your team is right now. You're letting people

1092
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 10: come into your home, your don't and basically disrespect your organization,

1093
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 10: whether it be your own players, whether it be you yourself,

1094
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 10: whether it be your kids not telling you, hey, Dad,

1095
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 10: you probably need to step aside. Let us run this,

1096
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 10: let us get this thing back into the right course,

1097
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 10: because what you're doing is going to cost us for

1098
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 10: not just these next three four seasons, this might hurt

1099
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 10: us indefinitely. Look at Jacksonville, jaguarst not wrong.

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00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 2: You're gonna win eight games, all right, Paal. Always appreciate you, man.

1101
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: I got so many calls and I always enjoy your stuff. Kyle, Thanks,

1102
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 2: You're not wrong. No way do offend. Brian Schottenheimer, Okay,

1103
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: he was in the building. I no longer believe Jerry

1104
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 2: carries as much if he went to the super Bowl.

1105
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: He just wants to keep printing money. And make no mistake,

1106
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 2: they are great stuff. Kyle Gene in Memphis joins us.

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00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: Good evening, Geene, how are you doing good will? Bud?

1108
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 8: All right, Yeah, I just want to figure the league

1109
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 8: is I think the league agreed?

1110
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 2: Man, Okay, get no problem. Give me your case why

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00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: I don't agree, but I want to hear what you

1112
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 2: got to say.

1113
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 8: Uh, look at those calls that the reflaid on pet

1114
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 8: On Nick Josh last week. He got that first down

1115
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 8: when they took the execuity, when they took it from

1116
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 8: when they took it from him, they stopped the momental. Man,

1117
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 8: you can go back to the tuck rule. Uh, it's

1118
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 8: so many they even go back to the to the

1119
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 8: game with the pachers in the Seahawks. There's no way

1120
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 8: in the world that Russell Stow that football. Marshawn Forts

1121
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 8: got that football. No question about it. But that's a

1122
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 8: coaching decision. But I still think that's I don't know,

1123
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 8: being the lights, being the lights in New Orleans going

1124
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 8: out all that kind of jazz.

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Speaker 2: Uh, well, it's certainly have been. I got there's certainly

1126
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 2: been some eyebrow raising events in the past, you know,

1127
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 2: fifty years in the NFL. But the team that they're

1128
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: playing has to be good enough to take advantage of it, right,

1129
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: Do you have anything on Ronnie James tonight, Geene?

1130
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, you asking me just being just been a basketball

1131
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 8: fan of just a fan of sports period, and that

1132
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 8: team to look at this kid and say he's ready,

1133
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 8: he's nowhere, and they're ready. He shouldn't be out there

1134
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 8: on the on the on the floor. Matter of fact,

1135
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 8: it's a disrespect to the NBA and the players before

1136
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 8: and the players now, the guys that are really busting

1137
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 8: that bus trying to make it. Here's his dad, one

1138
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 8: of the one of the greatest players ever put it down.

1139
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 8: We know Michael's have been gang Colby, but uh.

1140
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,479
Speaker 7: He should not be he should not be playing, should

1141
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 7: be in he should be in a G league.

1142
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 8: So where kind of get his gang work? And I'm

1143
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 8: just being honest, Gene.

1144
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate your honesty and candor. All good stuff tonight.

1145
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for checking in. All right, I believe

1146
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 2: you got a first year. Butch joins us from Germany? Butch,

1147
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: what part of Germany are you in right now?

1148
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: In the south?

1149
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 8: Uh?

1150
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: Southwest? Kaiser slaughtered?

1151
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: Okay, what about eight thirty in the morning? There? Does

1152
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 2: that sound about right?

1153
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 13: It is?

1154
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: Uh ninety? All right? So what do you got for

1155
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 2: us tonight? Whereould you like to start?

1156
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 3: Okay? So you have a lot of great subjects, but

1157
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 3: I would like to not go really off topic of

1158
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 3: take up too much of your time, But go right ahead.

1159
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 2: Did your you got the floor? Take go where you

1160
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 2: want to go.

1161
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 3: Why is Ricky Waters not in the Hall of Fame?

1162
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: Well, I guess you didn't get enough votes. I I

1163
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 2: have to really, I was always a huge drinking Waters fan.

1164
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about that at the other day.

1165
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 2: Thirty years ago, when they womped the Chargers forty nine

1166
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 2: to twenty seven, Ricky Wobbas was a one man highlight

1167
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 2: film that day.

1168
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 3: I know I'm a huge Niners fan, and I know

1169
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 3: he played for the Niners for very long, but I

1170
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: mean he's got he's got over ten thousand yards and

1171
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 3: only ten years he's got like seventy something touched. Anyway,

1172
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 3: the next thing was again off topic, is Joe Montana,

1173
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Roger Stalbach, bess Ever, not sure

1174
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 3: what order to put them in.

1175
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: Well, they're clearly in the biggest games, on the biggest stages.

1176
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: They shine the brightest. You can't that's undeniable.

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01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then go back to what you're talking about.

1178
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: The NFL is not rigged.

1179
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 8: That's that's absolutely ridiculous.

1180
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 3: But I think I think it's use the same words

1181
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 3: as a couple of dollars ago, No way, it's that'd

1182
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 3: be that'd be too difficult. I do think though, because

1183
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 3: of all the sports talk about it that well, they

1184
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 3: kind of do it all the time anyway. But you know,

1185
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: the ref the referee is going to hold their flags

1186
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,480
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, and I like that.

1187
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 2: You know, let them play, Yeah, let them play as.

1188
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 3: Long as it's not a you know, a guy smashing

1189
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 3: his head and do another guy's head for concussion. Got

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,000
Speaker 3: to let the holding go. Maybe you know, there'll be

1191
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 3: some defensive holding flags as usual. But I mean, with

1192
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 3: all this thing about the NFL being rigged. It's I

1193
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be a great game, and then uh,

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01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: Brownie sucks.

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01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 2: Oh god, that's left to be said. I I love

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01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: that you waited on all four. Got a few things

1197
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 2: in there top to your own things. But for checking in,

1198
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 2: don't need to be sure with you. I just want

1199
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: to make sure I get to everybody. When you said,

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01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: Bernie sex, that kind of says it all. It's by

1201
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: the way, we're kind of this is the one thing

1202
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: where unanimous on tonight. No one's attacking Brownie personally. But

1203
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 2: this whole ordeal just is a defense to people's sensibilities.

1204
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: Get really good callers, really insightful. Max, North Carolina, you

1205
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 2: are at next. Where would you like to start?

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01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 14: I Bernie Frano, second time caller, short time listener. I

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01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 14: love this show, Bernie, Thank you do? I think the

1208
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 14: Napels rigged like a couple of callers before fifty to fifty,

1209
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 14: and I will put evidence of how I think it's rigged.

1210
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 14: Look at the in the Eagle Commander's game last week. Okay,

1211
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 14: there was when Frankie Lubu, the linebacker jumped over the

1212
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 14: over the thing. Oh yeah, said Okay, if Washington keep

1213
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 14: does that we're going to give them the Eagles a touchdown?

1214
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 7: How do that?

1215
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 2: Threw me for a loop, But I was completely unaware,

1216
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah that the referees, could we award somebody at touchdown?

1217
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 2: Continue on?

1218
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 14: Yeah, the other one is okay from what I've heard,

1219
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 14: I don't know how true it is. But look at

1220
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 14: the Super Bowl logos when the Chiefs and Eagles face

1221
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 14: the first time, do you see a lot of green,

1222
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 14: a little bit of red? And the Chiefs won? And

1223
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 14: then last year, which was kind of weird. I don't

1224
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 14: understand that one. You saw a purple and red, which

1225
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 14: is like okay, so it's Tony Ravens and Niners. No,

1226
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 14: they edfol flipped the script, which is like okay. And

1227
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 14: now this year it was a lot of red, a

1228
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 14: little bit of green. So do I think Eagles could win?

1229
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 14: Yet on top of all that, there's more and the

1230
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 14: Eagles commander's game.

1231
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 3: I don't know who it was.

1232
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 14: It was an Eagle defendsimen poke, the tyler beyonda the

1233
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:58,600
Speaker 14: dinner and the eye rest did nothing about it, which was.

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01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 2: Like a kid Jaden, Yeah, go ahead, yeah, but it's

1235
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: like a right kid out of Georgia. That was so weird.

1236
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 8: I didn't know Stan.

1237
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 14: And then the other one when Marshall Lottimore was covering

1238
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 14: a J.

1239
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 8: Brown.

1240
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 14: Lottimore didn't do anything.

1241
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 8: A J.

1242
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 14: Brown kind of I think was either trash stock or something,

1243
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,439
Speaker 14: and like Ladvog got the penalty. So that's a two

1244
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 14: personal flagrant fouls that too gone to the Eagles. But

1245
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 14: I don't know.

1246
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 2: Of course those are I saw it, and you maybe right,

1247
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: those are judgment calls. I thank you for checking in tonight, Max,

1248
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 2: good stuff, and look, I'm amazed and I'm enjoying this.

1249
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,920
Speaker 2: We are getting disagreement. People know where I stand, but

1250
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: I like to get people's thoughts. And the good thing

1251
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 2: about it is every caller, whether it's Max or Jane

1252
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: or I forget who else, thought it was rigged Jim,

1253
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 2: and they brought specific receipts so they feel the way

1254
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: they feel based on what their rymes told them on

1255
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: the field. Because I covered the Lions for ten years

1256
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 2: and I just can't believe it. Maybe I don't want

1257
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: to believe it. It's just too hard for me to

1258
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: believe it. But listen, the Midnight Hour is designed to

1259
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 2: have a forum, an amalgam of diverse thoughts and we're

1260
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: getting that tonight. I'm loving every minute of it. Poppy,

1261
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: Carl and Ed in Las Vegas. You are up next,

1262
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Speaker 2: Uncle anywhere. The Midnight Hour continues. I'm Bernie Frattle, were

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Speaker 2: Comedy lying from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, tire Act

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Keep it locked and listening to the

1265
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: Bernie Frattle Show on Fox Sports Radio. We're back on

1266
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Speaker 2: the Bernie Frattle Show, Kemedy live from the Tarac dot

1267
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 2: Com studios here Fox Sports Radio. The Midnight Hour and

1268
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Speaker 2: the Final Stretch. Callers have been outstanding tonight. Lots of

1269
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 2: meat on the bones, some healthy disagreements. Poppy in San

1270
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 2: Diego joints this next? Where do you want to start? Poppy?

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Speaker 5: Hey, well, the first thing's on my mind. I wanted

1272
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 5: to talk about the NFL rig. Of course, I believe

1273
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 5: it's ragged. You know, I had the build last week.

1274
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 5: There were some tricky calls, you know, when one of

1275
01:08:12,120 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 5: the reps, you know, when it went over the fourth

1276
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,719
Speaker 5: and money jumped over. One of the rep said, yeah, it's.

1277
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: Good, yes, yes, yes.

1278
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 5: I was like in the Drug Parddy Show, right like

1279
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 5: Jepardy like while like to Menda Cars. Then I say, yeah,

1280
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 5: I remember.

1281
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 2: That happened Poppy back in twenty twelve when they had

1282
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 2: the replacement reps on the Seattle touchdown on the end zone.

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Speaker 2: One said it was a touchdown. One said, no, right,

1284
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,240
Speaker 2: it was embarrassing. That's a good pick. You picked that out, Poppy.

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01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: Good once one signal yes, the other signal though, continue on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I do believe that, I mean that it's rigged.

1287
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 5: And just like just for that reason, talking about rig

1288
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 5: my prediction, I believe the Kansas City chief will win

1289
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 5: three in a row. And you know, I do the

1290
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 5: I that count the city chiefs.

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Speaker 10: But I think a big.

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Speaker 5: Great Tom Brady deserves the Patriots deserve to win three

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Speaker 5: in the row. Like he's the greatest of all time

1294
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 5: in my opinion. So I think the you know, Tom

1295
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 5: Brady should have got three in the row in my opinion.

1296
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 2: You know, all right, let's talk about Bronnie James next.

1297
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: That's a hot topic tonight. What are your thoughts on, Brownie?

1298
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love Barnnie James, and U you know, Barnnie

1299
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 5: James is just so I'm in the summer League in

1300
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 5: your hometown in Las Vegas, and it was grad he

1301
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 5: was focused. I loved how face his dad wasn't there

1302
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 5: and he was focused on the thing. First game wasn't

1303
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 5: that good?

1304
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 2: A second game was getting the Summer League of a

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01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 2: real NBA game.

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01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 5: Con No, I know, I know, but what I'm trying

1307
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 5: to get this I'm trying to give. And then he

1308
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 5: went down to the D League. He started getting competitive.

1309
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 5: He got humiliated, Molly wopped. You know how you said,

1310
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 5: Charlie's market, but you know what, he redeemed himself and

1311
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 5: he shot a point, but it was humiliated. Was like

1312
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 5: you said, I agree with you, Bernie, Lebron and humiliating

1313
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 5: and them saying MVP, MVP. I'm like, that's just humiliating.

1314
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:05,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was not cool. They're making fun

1315
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: of him, don't you a great poppy?

1316
01:10:06,920 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were making fun of them.

1317
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 7: I agreed.

1318
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 5: They were making fun of them. And if I see

1319
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 5: Lebron James in the summering in your hometown, I will

1320
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 5: make fun of them and I will eat them alive.

1321
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 5: And you hear about that, Bernie. But the one I

1322
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,480
Speaker 5: wanted to talk to you about Tip the bed for last.

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01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 3: Something quickly, bud real quickly, in my opinion.

1324
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,000
Speaker 5: The best coach car was the course from the Jaguars.

1325
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 5: Lamb He said, Doll.

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01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 2: That's Liam Cohen. Thanks, Poppy, appreciate you, Bud. That's Liam Cohen,

1327
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 2: the former offensive coordinator at Tampa. He may end up

1328
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 2: being good with very creative. Thanks Poppy. Uh Ed in

1329
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Jones just good eating.

1330
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 6: Edy agreed and verning my whole thing about the NFL

1331
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 6: being brigged. Okay, the NFL is so big, The Super

1332
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 6: Bowl is so big. It's an almost a national holiday.

1333
01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 6: It's like the second biggest gathering of people. Even people

1334
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,519
Speaker 6: don't like football watching. It doesn't matter if the Tennessee

1335
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 6: Titans are playing the Arizona Cardinals. They're still going to

1336
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 6: make a ton of money. Does forget to me when

1337
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 6: people say it's rigged?

1338
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, fair enough. What about Bronnie James? What

1339
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on that?

1340
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 6: I'm Brownie, Yeah, I feel bad for what I don't

1341
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,639
Speaker 6: feel bad for him and got a ton of money. Yeah,

1342
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 6: we all know what to do is with James. It's

1343
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 6: not like Griffy Junior and Fred Griffy. You know what

1344
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 6: I'm saying, right?

1345
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 3: Yeah at all?

1346
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, go ahead, Well that's why I said, but that's

1347
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,680
Speaker 6: why I'm saying about the super Bowl, though, you go

1348
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 6: to the supermarket tomorrow our incommunist So what they got

1349
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 6: Dorigo's on? So super Bowl? Get this, it's a national holiday.

1350
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 6: They don't they don't care who's in there Arizona, Tennessee.

1351
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 6: They're making their money. So anybody's trying to say they're

1352
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 6: staging like the WWE is ridiculous. Just look at the facts.

1353
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, appreciate it. Man, anything real quickly on

1354
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 2: the coaching care So all right, no problem, no problem

1355
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: at all. Greg and Michigan joins us.

1356
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 15: Next, Hi, Greg, how you doing burn up to your

1357
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 15: Northern Michigan University?

1358
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 2: Oh you're a yupper.

1359
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 15: You're a uper one hour away from his old Mariucci's hometown.

1360
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:20,040
Speaker 2: Of Iron Mountain. That's right, is o Mariucci. Kevin Tappani

1361
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: former picture for the Minutes Little Twins. Oh what's the

1362
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: weather up there tonight in the Uper?

1363
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 8: Well it's not.

1364
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 16: Bad about twenty five degrees.

1365
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: Oh hell, that's bad ice fishing. That's no good. You're

1366
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 2: probably hot. In't backed by your pool?

1367
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:33,120
Speaker 3: It's nice.

1368
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 16: Last couple of ages worth thirties and before that we

1369
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:35,759
Speaker 16: were blows.

1370
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 2: They're over a fricking heat wave. All right, let's get

1371
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 2: to the topics. So I got another caller after you. So, uh,

1372
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 2: let's start with is the NFL rigged or not?

1373
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 16: Well, I'll tell you what if you want to. I

1374
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 16: don't think it is.

1375
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 15: But the hardest part about refereeing is the spotting of

1376
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 15: the ball. Now that that's where it could be rigged

1377
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 15: when nobody knows nothing about it.

1378
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:58,600
Speaker 16: That ends here to put here.

1379
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 15: It's an impossible thing to do is spot the football.

1380
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 3: And you're got a different angle.

1381
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. I'm going to talk about that

1382
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 2: Saturday night. NFL claims even new technology wouldn't be able

1383
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: to spot it correctly. Let's jump to Brownie James. Your

1384
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: thoughts on him.

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01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 16: Well, you know that's why I like college football. You

1386
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 16: got to stick around in college.

1387
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,679
Speaker 15: And if these guys, Brian's a good example, they leave early,

1388
01:13:24,280 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 15: not or in overland, NBA, G League overseas.

1389
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 16: Stick around to college for four years, get a great education,

1390
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 16: learn how.

1391
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 15: To play the game, teamwork, disciployment, and then get to.

1392
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 16: Your next step. Everybody's leaving too early in.

1393
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 15: The NBA, and that's why ANBA is not very good.

1394
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 15: You got all these four people coming in, you don't

1395
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 15: know who they are. For college football, you know people

1396
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 15: they hang around for four years. You know these players.

1397
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 2: I appreciate you man, keep it, keep it, hold it

1398
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:52,880
Speaker 2: down there at greg and Northern Michigan one of the

1399
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 2: very interesting places on the planet. Brocking out Berta, Canada.

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01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 2: Thanks for your pitches tonight. I brought your up next.

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01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 17: Hey Bernie, how's it going Mervo?

1402
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 2: Good? Thank you sir.

1403
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 17: You know that the Kansas City Chiefs being rigged, that's ridiculous.

1404
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 17: It's it's not it's not rigged. The thing is, it's,

1405
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 17: you know again with the dynasty stuff. You know, we

1406
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 17: all want to see greatness and I think, you know,

1407
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 17: the greatest talk to Mahomes is like, you know, it

1408
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,679
Speaker 17: could be a fifty to fifty, but it's it's really.

1409
01:14:23,479 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 6: Hard to say.

1410
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about Brownie James. You have to

1411
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,520
Speaker 2: have an opinion on Brownie James.

1412
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:34,600
Speaker 17: Yeah, I see, here's here's my thing. I think he

1413
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 17: needs to grow into a player. I think I think

1414
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,520
Speaker 17: it was cool to see him and Lebron.

1415
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 12: On Opening Night.

1416
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 10: That was special.

1417
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 8: But outside of that, it's, you know.

1418
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 2: It's bugging me. Why the hell they're trying to force

1419
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 2: feed is that this guy is really an NBA player.

1420
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: I mean, they wanted to manufacture history. I got it.

1421
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 17: Continue on, Yeah, yeah, I don't Yeah no, I mean,

1422
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:56,799
Speaker 17: at the end of the day, there's no way he's actually,

1423
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 17: like at this point time, an NBA player, And I

1424
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 17: think Lebron's pushing him too. Ho Now, I think I

1425
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 17: don't think Lebron. Now I've heard Lebron say on the

1426
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 17: Kelsey Podcast that you know, he Bronnie could be anything.

1427
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 17: But you know, at the end of the day, Lebron's

1428
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 17: a four time champion, he's a four time MVP, He's

1429
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 17: going to ten NBA finals. But the thing is he's

1430
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 17: Bronni's just not ready yet. If he you know, I

1431
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 17: think at some point in time he could become I'm

1432
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 17: wishing him nothing but the best, But I think right

1433
01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 17: now he's he should be in college right now.

1434
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 3: I'm not the NBA.

1435
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Bron. If he was in college at

1436
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 2: SC he probably wouldn't be good enough to start. He'd

1437
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 2: be getting six minutes a game and he'd be doing

1438
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: about the same thing. With all due respect, because I

1439
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 2: like him as a human being, he's a really classy kid.

1440
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 2: He's not an NBA player. Our final caller tonight on

1441
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 2: the on these subjects will be Mike in modesto. Mike,

1442
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:48,839
Speaker 2: you're in the home stretch. What do you got for us?

1443
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: Well, my thinking is simply this.

1444
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 13: Of course, the NFL is not rigged, and the elite

1445
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 13: players can overcome the bad wrestling. That's why the chemistry.

1446
01:15:58,720 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 3: Is so good.

1447
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 13: They said the same thing about Montagna, they said the

1448
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 13: same thing about Tom Brady. Oh it's rigged, it's it's rigged.

1449
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 13: And now it's just Patrick Mahomes the nixed goat to come.

1450
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,879
Speaker 13: So no, I don't believe it's ragged that. The problem

1451
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 13: is we got we got, we got a million depart

1452
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 13: maybe a billion dollar industry in the NFL. And they

1453
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 13: have part time referees. What the hell is that? Why

1454
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 13: not have them full time referees, give them training during

1455
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 13: the year, have them other levels, go to classes, and

1456
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 13: you get what I'm saying, right, Bernie, Well, raise.

1457
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 2: Really time that I wish I had more time. We

1458
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:45,759
Speaker 2: got to do this somenight. Uh. It's a long story.

1459
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: And these guys are graded and if they don't do well,

1460
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,519
Speaker 2: they don't work. Uh, they don't want full time referees

1461
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 2: the NFL. They'll unionize, they'll become more powerful, they'll have

1462
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 2: less control. They have actually had more control now and

1463
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: for the most part they do a clean job. But

1464
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 2: there's a lot of quies vegetable stuff. Okay. The question

1465
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:04,680
Speaker 2: is whether it's intentional, Mike. The question is whether this

1466
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 2: is really rigged and I can't buy it. Have you

1467
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 2: weighed on Brownie James yet? Have we talked about that.

1468
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 3: Bronnie James? You hit it.

1469
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 13: He's a college player at this point. Could he have

1470
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 13: been good after about three seasons?

1471
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 3: There's no way. He's like a lebron at one and done,

1472
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,879
Speaker 3: two and done. He's a four year player. It was forced,

1473
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 3: it was for Daddy James. Yes here, you're right, he's

1474
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 3: hide character.

1475
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 13: I hope it works out for him.

1476
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 3: If it doesn't, is his dad's fault.

1477
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: All right, really good stuff, Mike, Appreciate you man. You've

1478
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: called this segment many times. I want to thank all

1479
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 2: the callers tonight on the Midnight Hour. I love the

1480
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 2: diverse opinions, I love the disagreements, all and everybody who

1481
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 2: called in. When you think the NFL is rigged or not,

1482
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: you gave your reasons why, justified it with relevant specifics,

1483
01:17:56,400 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 2: specific situations, events and games, where you sit as where

1484
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 2: you stand. If you think it, you think it, I mean,

1485
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 2: it's out there. We had to do this as a

1486
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 2: topic tonight. And is one of the callers brought up

1487
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: before that, it was Brady before that, it's you know

1488
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 2: Al Davis used to complain in the seventies it was

1489
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: rigged against him because they hated the Raiders. Right, So

1490
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 2: this whole thing got started because in pro football talk,

1491
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 2: the highly respected Dean Blandino's actually got a brother who

1492
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 2: thinks it's rigged. This is a little crazy, but that's

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Speaker 2: how far this has gone. And as far as Brownie,

1494
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: the Lakers really gave Ronnie kind of a big chance

1495
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,720
Speaker 2: Wednesday night, and man, it did not go well. It

1496
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: was really ugly and I watched a lot of it.

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Speaker 2: I watched all fifteen minutes. If he is not an

1498
01:18:39,880 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 2: NBA player, we've got to stop the charade. Knock yourself out.

1499
01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 2: The more you do it, the more it becomes an embarrassment.

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Speaker 2: after we get off the air. Hey, it's time to

1525
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:04,440
Speaker 2: talk some movies. It's time for Breeze three.

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01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 11: Not one, not two, but three. It's entertainment. It's good.

1527
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:15,479
Speaker 11: It's Breeze three.

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01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: All right, take it away, alrighty.

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01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 18: So obviously we know Jimmy Butler has been in the

1530
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 18: news recently, all kinds of drama surrounding whether or not

1531
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 18: that he are gonna get ready and trade him. And

1532
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 18: I just feel like at this point, Jimmy Butler is

1533
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 18: just a name, right, Like it's just like, Okay, he's

1534
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,719
Speaker 18: not the player he used to be. So many injuries

1535
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 18: has happened, he's obviously a little bit older, and now

1536
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 18: he's just the name of like, you know, trying to

1537
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 18: trade trying to trade him. So I was just thinking,

1538
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 18: I think he's just a little overrated at this point.

1539
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 18: And I think, no matter what team, unfortunately as a

1540
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 18: sentence fan, there's a good shot that we might get him.

1541
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 19: But it's just kind.

1542
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 18: Of like, Okay, well we're getting the name of Jimmy Butler,

1543
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 18: but it's not really it's not the player that he

1544
01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 18: used to be.

1545
01:20:58,439 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 19: So I was just.

1546
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 18: Thinking of overrated things in movies. So whether it's like

1547
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 18: a TV show or an actor. So I started off

1548
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 18: with Barbie from like last year, right, I felt like

1549
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 18: Barbie was a little overrated. It got a lot of hype.

1550
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 18: Greta Gerwig obviously had a lot of eyes on her Bernie, like,

1551
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 18: you know, like for her directorial debut, and so and

1552
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 18: Ryan Gosling I think was like a highlight. But I

1553
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 18: just think the whole thing together, there was just so

1554
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 18: much hype and just so much about it. But when

1555
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 18: I saw the movie, like, I was really excited about it,

1556
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 18: but when I went to go see it, I was like, oh, no, no, no,

1557
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 18: this isn't what I was expecting. And it didn't really

1558
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 18: like measure up to what I thought the name was

1559
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 18: going to be and everything kind of leading up to it.

1560
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 2: So that was my I'll tell you, I gotta be honest,

1561
01:21:41,439 --> 01:21:43,200
Speaker 2: I didn't see it. It was a total miss for me.

1562
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: I couldn't couldn't have cared less, right, And I just

1563
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 2: it just like, okay, what are we doing here? No interest?

1564
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 2: So it doesn't surprise me that was.

1565
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 18: Overrated, yes, very And I was like and again, like

1566
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 18: I was a little disappointed because obviously, growing up in

1567
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 18: the nineties, Barbie was a big deal for me. I had,

1568
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 18: I had the house, I had the car. I mean obviously,

1569
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 18: you know.

1570
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 19: So, yeah, just it didn't measure up.

1571
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 18: And I actually love Greta Gerwick, So I was a

1572
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 18: little disappointed.

1573
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 20: Was it a little bit of once everybody saw the movie,

1574
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 20: that is like, if this is what it's about, then

1575
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 20: that's not what I thought Barb was going to be about.

1576
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 19: Yeah, that kind of killed her too. I didn't see it,

1577
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:19,680
Speaker 19: but I've as.

1578
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 2: God it neither. And what's interesting is that wouldn't have

1579
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: suayed me to see it either. They could have said

1580
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 2: it was the greatest thing since Godfather. I don't care.

1581
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this thing from the outside looking in,

1582
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,560
Speaker 2: want nothing to do with it. Continue I'm sorry.

1583
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 18: No, no, no, I'm glad, like this is around.

1584
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 20: We had it on and somebody had it on in here,

1585
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 20: so I saw them with editing here, but I saw it.

1586
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 20: But just the idea of what the movie turned out

1587
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 20: to be about seemed to change the audience, and that

1588
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,480
Speaker 20: just took away all of its thunder exactly.

1589
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 18: Yeah, and I and again, I just think like I

1590
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 18: think people kind of went in with a different kind

1591
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 18: of mindset and they walked out they're like, oh, a

1592
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 18: lot of people loved it, Like I said, a lot

1593
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:56,880
Speaker 18: of people. I mean, it got a lot of hype,

1594
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 18: but it just wasn't what I was expecting, and just

1595
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 18: then itself and everything kind of stood. For my second one,

1596
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 18: I went a little random, but I went le Angelo Ball.

1597
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 18: Obviously he's been in the news lately. He performed at

1598
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,760
Speaker 18: halftime during the Lions.

1599
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 19: Their last playoff game.

1600
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 18: I just think the Ball brand in general, obviously, the

1601
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 18: Ball brothers, Lonzo, Leangelo whatever, the other one is just

1602
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 18: like Lamela, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, okay, fine, Lamela,

1603
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 18: you're right. Lamello is actually like he's her right now,

1604
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 18: but he was actually he's interesting on the horn. He's

1605
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 18: actually he can't he can't stay healthy, right, So I

1606
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 18: so yeah, so Leangelo Ball that song like a tweaker.

1607
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 18: It's called I've Heard a Little Bits and Pieces. Two

1608
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 18: pros actually had it in their show and I was like,

1609
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,080
Speaker 18: oh my gosh, you guys, like, are we really doing this? Like,

1610
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 18: oh my gosh, but yeah, I'm done, Like I never

1611
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 18: want to hear the name of our ball. I never

1612
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 18: want to hear Leangelo A Lonzo also can't stay healthy.

1613
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 18: I don't know what's going to happen with him. So yeah,

1614
01:23:57,680 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 18: I'm done, which is the ball brand altogether. It's been

1615
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 18: too many years of just that. It's a miracle that

1616
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 18: they're still around, honestly. And then so that's my second one,

1617
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 18: and then I went Jason Kelcey for.

1618
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 19: My third one. I'm done.

1619
01:24:11,280 --> 01:24:13,840
Speaker 18: I'm done with Jason Kelsey. I'm done. I think he

1620
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 18: has his little late night show. I understand like the

1621
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 18: Kelsey name carries a lot of weight right now just

1622
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 18: because of Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift. To totally understand

1623
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 18: and respect that, but that's it's just too much. Like

1624
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 18: when he was on Monday Night Football, I thought people

1625
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 18: are just paying attention to his outfits a lot rather

1626
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 18: than what he wanted to say. And his wife also

1627
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 18: got like a podcast also after kind of like how

1628
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 18: he's been coming up the rings. I don't know if

1629
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 18: you've been seeing any of his things, Bernie like his appearances.

1630
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 2: Well, I know Jason Kelsey has a show on Friday night.

1631
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm not going to watch it.

1632
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay.

1633
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 2: He's a damn good player with the Eagles. They won

1634
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. And the problem is is the Kelsey's

1635
01:24:57,080 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: are running the risk of being overexposed to. And we

1636
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 2: talked about we talked about you remark oh a little bit.

1637
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, so you heard my opening monologue

1638
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,599
Speaker 2: and all this conspiracy stuff about the Chiefs is based

1639
01:25:12,600 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 2: on Chiefs hate. Well, when you see Jason Kelsey, what

1640
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 2: do you think you're thinking chiefs? You think of Chiefs again,

1641
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: So it's adding to this overall narrative. So yeah, we

1642
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,720
Speaker 2: see Jason Kelcey everywhere on Monday night football, doing commentary,

1643
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: doing TV shows, doing commercials. You better be careful because

1644
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 2: when you get over exposed like that, the public has enough.

1645
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 18: And I'm done, Like, I'm done. And I didn't even

1646
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 18: care about him before. I've never cared about any Kelsey.

1647
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 18: You know Travis urch I.

1648
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: You might like his story. He's a good dude, he's

1649
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 2: a good you know, all the good stuff. But to

1650
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 2: try to force fee to make him a star. That's

1651
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 2: where I'm like, okay, do we really Okay? Fair enough?

1652
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 18: The Campbell's commercials were great, but oh yeah, I'm sorry, Okay, yeah,

1653
01:25:55,560 --> 01:25:56,560
Speaker 18: I'm done.

1654
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: Mark so much. Well, I want you, I want you

1655
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 2: to weigh on Jason Kelsey' oh.

1656
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 20: Just the well, yeah, like I said, there's too much

1657
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 20: of them.

1658
01:26:07,080 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: And I respect him and I respect their accomplishments, but

1659
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: when you're continually going to force feed him down our throat,

1660
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 2: it doesn't work for anybody.

1661
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 20: I think we all agree that entertainment, once they find

1662
01:26:17,160 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 20: something that they think is hot, they will jam it

1663
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 20: down our throat until we say, you know, stop and

1664
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 20: until something happens.

1665
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: Well, super Bowl Champions all that, but all of a sudden,

1666
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: TV shows, Monday night football come right, all this stuff.

1667
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,559
Speaker 20: So while it's hot, they're just going to keep doing

1668
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 20: it because if we can make money off of it,

1669
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 20: we're going to keep it going until it dies. And

1670
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:41,880
Speaker 20: you just kick the dead horse till it's that. David

1671
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,879
Speaker 20: Letterman used to say that, just do it until it dies. Yeah,

1672
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 20: so there's that keep going with it. So my three

1673
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:53,120
Speaker 20: I picked a couple of TV shows and one of

1674
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 20: them is the Chicago They have those three shows, Chicago Fire,

1675
01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 20: Chicago p D, and Chicago Med.

1676
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 19: I used to watch that a little bit.

1677
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 20: And I used to tease a friend about those shows

1678
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:10,560
Speaker 20: because I think there's TV shows that have pretty actors,

1679
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 20: and then the pretty actors are always involved with each other.

1680
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 19: This one involved with that.

1681
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 20: One, and if it's you know, if they're in the

1682
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,760
Speaker 20: locker room and then they have cot locker rooms so

1683
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,559
Speaker 20: they're all together or they looking at each other, it

1684
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 20: just seems like it's just one big soap opera. So

1685
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 20: I just think that particular show was sort of overrated.

1686
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 19: I think it's still going. They have the Chicago shows.

1687
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:37,759
Speaker 20: So those kind of that TV show, it just seemed

1688
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 20: like it's like we were talking about, it's a little

1689
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:41,240
Speaker 20: overrated for me.

1690
01:27:41,320 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 19: So that's one of the ones that I picked.

1691
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 20: It's like three of them, and the other one that

1692
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 20: I thought about that I just I mean, I parts

1693
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,599
Speaker 20: of it are funny, but I just think it's kind

1694
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 20: of overrated. It's it's always sunny in Philadelphia.

1695
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 2: Oh that that hadn't been on about ten years. Is

1696
01:27:57,720 --> 01:27:58,639
Speaker 2: that's still running anywhere?

1697
01:27:58,680 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 18: It's still running.

1698
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 19: Yeah, I knew I would hurt somebody feeling.

1699
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:06,960
Speaker 2: I haven't watched it enough to actually I maybe watched

1700
01:28:07,000 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 2: ten minutes of one episode and I just couldn't go ahead, Mark,

1701
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:10,599
Speaker 2: you got.

1702
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:12,760
Speaker 20: The floor, just the idea that you know, it's one

1703
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 20: of those kind of TV shows where everybody has an

1704
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 20: anxiety attack and they're always you know, frustrated and going crazy,

1705
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 20: and then the whole group has to figure things out.

1706
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,759
Speaker 20: I guess I just don't care for that brand of comedy,

1707
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 20: and I think that particular show was overrated. And I'm

1708
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 20: getting looks, so I know I'm doing well because somebody's

1709
01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 20: looking at me anyway.

1710
01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 19: But that's one another one of those shows.

1711
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 20: It's always Sonny and Philadelphia I just thought was overrated.

1712
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 20: And then I'm not a big fan of South Park.

1713
01:28:46,360 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 20: They have certain skits and they do crazy things, but

1714
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:55,599
Speaker 20: I wasn't always loving those two creators of the show,

1715
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 20: or just that show. I know it's a big thing,

1716
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,000
Speaker 20: but it wasn't a big deal for me. I thought

1717
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 20: it was a little bit overrated all the time. For

1718
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 20: those in my three, it's always Sunny Philadelphia, South Park,

1719
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 20: and then those Chicago Fire, PD and MAT So those

1720
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 20: are my three, all right.

1721
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 2: I went with two actors and then one movie and

1722
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 2: kind of keeping with the theme that clearly Jimmy Butler

1723
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 2: is overrated. Now he's a pain in the ass. His

1724
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 2: production is anywhere what it used to be. And look,

1725
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:32,160
Speaker 2: it just feels like he's a guy who's living in

1726
01:29:32,160 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 2: the past right in terms of what he could bring

1727
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 2: an NBA team right now. So who's overrated in the

1728
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 2: acting world. This first name is going to shock you.

1729
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 2: But he went to his grave never winning a Academy

1730
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 2: Award to greatly his lament. I'm talking about Burt Reynolds

1731
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:52,679
Speaker 2: is talented and as much of a box office huge

1732
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 2: star Burt Reynolds was, he never really believed he got

1733
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 2: the respect from his peers as a serious actor with serious.

1734
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 19: Chops at the end with Buggy Knights.

1735
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing, Mark, You're right. That was

1736
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety six. He thought for sure he was going

1737
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 2: to win the Academy Award. The camera had a tight

1738
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 2: shot on him. He didn't win it, and they clapped

1739
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,840
Speaker 2: and he did his best to be dignified, but you

1740
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: could read his face. He knew that that was his

1741
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 2: last shot. Okay, he was never going to win an

1742
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 2: Academy Award deep down, and he was. Burt Reynolds was

1743
01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:30,599
Speaker 2: quite candid about it in his later years. The first

1744
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 2: movie he ever got was a movie called Navajo Joe.

1745
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 2: No one's ever heard of Navajo Joe. I barely have,

1746
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 2: only because he said I certainly didn't see it. But

1747
01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,479
Speaker 2: he said he was so happy to get work. He

1748
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 2: never turned anything down, and he made a lot of

1749
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:49,679
Speaker 2: bad decisions. He was offered. He already had another gig

1750
01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 2: at the time, but he could have been Randall P.

1751
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 2: McMurphy in one floor of the Cucka's Nests. Instead it

1752
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 2: went to Jack Nicholson.

1753
01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

1754
01:30:58,120 --> 01:31:01,280
Speaker 2: Not because he didn't have war. He had two or

1755
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:04,519
Speaker 2: three other movies he was working on. So towards the

1756
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 2: end of his life he said, the reason no one

1757
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:08,679
Speaker 2: took me serious is I was in too many Navajo

1758
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 2: Joe's what he was trying to say was he did

1759
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 2: too much in too many non descript movies, so no

1760
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,719
Speaker 2: one took him serious. So the truth of the matter

1761
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 2: is in real circles. In Hollywood actor circles, Burt Reynolds

1762
01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 2: was considered overrated. Yeah, ye story, because.

1763
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 19: He picked a bunch of you know, BC movies.

1764
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 2: They're all they were entertaining, but they were brainless movies,

1765
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 2: you know, Smoking the Bandit all that kind of stuff.

1766
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,920
Speaker 2: Of course, Longest Yard was iconic, but he wasn't the

1767
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:34,240
Speaker 2: only one in that. There was a kind of an

1768
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 2: ensemble cast at the second one. I may or man,

1769
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 2: you know, Jim Carrey, bugs the hell out of me.

1770
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 2: I've never liked him. I'll give him credit half credit

1771
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 2: in one movie because he was alongside Jeff Daniels in

1772
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 2: Dumb and Dumber. And Jeff Daniels is a Michigan guy.

1773
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,800
Speaker 2: He's as much of a solid citizen as you could

1774
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 2: ever imagine. I came across so many times. I took

1775
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 2: my daughter to see you Dumb and Dumber. She loved it,

1776
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 2: and I ran into Jeff Daniels. You know you're not

1777
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 2: supposed to do this, and you got a media creditial.

1778
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 2: I said, my daughter's a big fan. To he goes,

1779
01:32:09,240 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 2: give me you're right. He sent an autograph. Picture arrived

1780
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 2: like the next day. Amazing. So I'll give Jim Carrey

1781
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 2: half credit any other movie he has ever been in,

1782
01:32:19,160 --> 01:32:23,799
Speaker 2: and I liar and the Trunder, overrated, sucked out. He's

1783
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:27,960
Speaker 2: never made me laugh, you know, the goofy faces. This

1784
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 2: he just all right, I'm stammering. I don't like Jim Carrey.

1785
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,639
Speaker 2: I think he's overrated. The third one is a movie. Now,

1786
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:36,840
Speaker 2: this one is probably going to raise to my brows too.

1787
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 2: It came in in nineteen seventy seven. I was playing

1788
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 2: college baseball. The whole damn team went to see this movie,

1789
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 2: and I said, I'm not going to look stupid. The

1790
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 2: movie is called Star Wars. I just wasn't into a

1791
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:51,519
Speaker 2: wharf time. I'm not into warp time. I don't really

1792
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 2: care about all that, right, And then there there were

1793
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 2: Star Wars, Wars two, then the Empire strikes back. Didn't

1794
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 2: see any of them. Fast forward to nineteen ninety seven.

1795
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: A family kids took my kids is either the twenty

1796
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 2: year anniversary to my wife and kids. I said, okay, well,

1797
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 2: I get it now why people like this. There's some wisdom,

1798
01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:12,719
Speaker 2: there's some yoda. This is basically a Western out in

1799
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,080
Speaker 2: the middle of outer space, and they tell these stories

1800
01:33:16,160 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: and if you get into it, let it go. And

1801
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 2: Harrison Ford okay, okay. Still, even though I watched it,

1802
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 2: overrated to me. So Burt Reynolds, Jim Carrey, Star Wars

1803
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 2: just my opinion, right. Everybody has their own opinions, and

1804
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 2: these are just opinions. Back to you, guys.

1805
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 18: I love that Jim Carrey one.

1806
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 19: That's hilarious, it's funny.

1807
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:37,600
Speaker 5: It doesn't make me.

1808
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,880
Speaker 2: Laugh it neither does, I mean, you know, neither does.

1809
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:44,639
Speaker 2: Kevin Hart never makes me laugh. I think ever, I.

1810
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 18: Think Jim Carrey, I think he's just so. He just

1811
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 18: tries to be so expressive and people just love like

1812
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 18: the expressions and the faces, and I think it's a

1813
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 18: little much, but some people just love that.

1814
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 5: I don't.

1815
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,240
Speaker 18: I've never really been like a huge fan, so I

1816
01:33:57,320 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 18: kind of agree with that. But I think that's why

1817
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 18: people like Bruce all My like his loud voice and

1818
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 18: everything else.

1819
01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,800
Speaker 20: But guys, I like two of his movies, like I said,

1820
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,720
Speaker 20: A Liar, Liar and then The Truman Show.

1821
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 19: I liked those about him.

1822
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:13,400
Speaker 20: But other than that quick point about Star Wars Bernie,

1823
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,839
Speaker 20: when I first watched that, I got up and left.

1824
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,360
Speaker 20: When R two, D two and C threepo were in

1825
01:34:21,439 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 20: the desert, I got up and left because I thought,

1826
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 20: what am I watching? This is going nowhere. I got

1827
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,519
Speaker 20: up and I left. Years later, I started watching it

1828
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 20: and I was like, oh, Okay, now I get it.

1829
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,160
Speaker 20: Like I just said, now I get it, because the

1830
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 20: rockets were great and just the space stuff was great.

1831
01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 20: But like you, I got up and walked up because

1832
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 20: when he got to that part, I thought it was

1833
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 20: so boring. Anything was going to go anywhere, and I

1834
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 20: got up and left.

1835
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,679
Speaker 19: Did you ever go back and watch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

1836
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:51,400
Speaker 19: I started watching. Okay, well yeah that was a guy.

1837
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:55,800
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1866
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 2: This is important. We had some exceptional calls tonight on

1867
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,760
Speaker 2: the midnight hour and one of the plays that came

1868
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 2: up that sparks the narrative which has really gone haywire,

1869
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 2: having to do with whether or not the NFL is rigged.

1870
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 2: You know my thoughts on this. You heard my opening monologue.

1871
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,320
Speaker 2: Though I don't believe it is. We had some really

1872
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 2: good callers though, Okay, I'm not going to in selt

1873
01:36:58,920 --> 01:37:04,519
Speaker 2: their intelligence or dispute their premise because every one of

1874
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 2: them gave a reason why, with specific specific situations. I

1875
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,639
Speaker 2: think it was Poppy said. Remember when Josh Allen had

1876
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 2: looked like he got the first time one of the

1877
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:17,280
Speaker 2: referee signal he got it, the other singing he didn't

1878
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 2: not a good optic. Then, of course that led to

1879
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 2: the narrative. I mean that play has fed this narrative. Right,

1880
01:37:24,840 --> 01:37:27,679
Speaker 2: the refs gave it to Kansas City, but Josh got

1881
01:37:27,680 --> 01:37:29,960
Speaker 2: it all. By the way, why the hell are we

1882
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:33,800
Speaker 2: still using the same chain gangs Rockney used back in

1883
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 2: eighteen forty one? All right, what's interesting is give it

1884
01:37:37,600 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 2: up to Mike Florio, a guy I respect a lot.

1885
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Apparently he has come upon some information. The NFL is tarrative,

1886
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,960
Speaker 2: hearing criticism that they didn't use enough technology to determine

1887
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 2: whether football is a first down or not, and the

1888
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 2: league is not looking to implement any solution that we

1889
01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 2: know of anytime soon. And apparently, according to the NFL

1890
01:38:08,120 --> 01:38:12,400
Speaker 2: and reports that I can't take credit for right that

1891
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 2: when it comes to utilizing technology to determine whether a

1892
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 2: first down was earned, you can use all this new

1893
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:26,880
Speaker 2: digital technology, but it can't replace the current procedure for

1894
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:33,439
Speaker 2: spotting the ball. According to representative fields of the NFL, quote,

1895
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 2: what this technology cannot do is take the place of

1896
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:43,080
Speaker 2: the human element determining where forward progress ends. There will

1897
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:46,160
Speaker 2: always be a human official spotting the ball. So once

1898
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 2: the ball spotted, then the line to gain technology actually

1899
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 2: does the measurement itself. So I think it's probably been

1900
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 2: a point of confusion around what the technology can and

1901
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:58,679
Speaker 2: can't do. There will always be a human element because

1902
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 2: of the forward progress conversation. All right, end quote. Here's

1903
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:09,440
Speaker 2: what throws me though. I'm told, you know through cameras

1904
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: and digital technology, and I'm not using the right terminology,

1905
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 2: so forgive me. But when you see Josh Allen, you know,

1906
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,360
Speaker 2: diving through a pile of people and the ball clearly

1907
01:39:22,400 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: appears to have at least crossed the line, technology can

1908
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 2: note that metrically and annotate it, and that will tell

1909
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:33,759
Speaker 2: you where to spot the ball. So here's another argument. Okay,

1910
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 2: can you sync up the moment the officials determined that

1911
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:40,200
Speaker 2: four progress was stopped with the specific location of the ball.

1912
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 2: When that occurs, that's the whole purpose of incorporating technology

1913
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 2: to help find the placement of the ball with an

1914
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:51,680
Speaker 2: electric line. Is okay, you already see where the line is.

1915
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 2: They already do that with technology. They draw fake lines

1916
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:56,320
Speaker 2: on the field that you never see when you're in person.

1917
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,680
Speaker 2: Now you need to know where the ball is. And

1918
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 2: right now, I think the lead he has to figure

1919
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 2: out a way to do it. They got the money.

1920
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,280
Speaker 2: I think they have the incentive. Now. The truth of

1921
01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:07,559
Speaker 2: the matter is if they want to do it enough,

1922
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:10,400
Speaker 2: they can figure it out. Yes, there will always be

1923
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 2: a human element, right, but what they should be saying is,

1924
01:40:13,960 --> 01:40:17,640
Speaker 2: while there's a human element, the NFL is fully committed

1925
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 2: to trying to incorporate digital methods for determining where the

1926
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 2: ball is when forward progress is stopped. All right, think

1927
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 2: about it. If they want to do it bad enough,

1928
01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:35,120
Speaker 2: I believe they can. Just like if your school wants

1929
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 2: to buy a quarterback in college and you want it

1930
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 2: bad enough in the NIL era, you can. It wasn't

1931
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: that long ago Michigan who highly coveted a quarterback out

1932
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 2: of Belleville, Michigan, which is probably about forty five minutes

1933
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 2: or man on our kid by the name of Bryce Underwood.

1934
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 2: It appeared that he was signed, sealed and delivered to

1935
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 2: go to LSU. He wasn't signed. He'd committed verbally, he

1936
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 2: hadn't you know, you know, the National Letter from ten

1937
01:41:06,560 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 2: or anything yet, and Michigan pried them away. All it

1938
01:41:12,600 --> 01:41:16,800
Speaker 2: took was twelve million dollars. Twelve million dollars. What if

1939
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 2: your school wants to buy a new quarterback? So we'll

1940
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:23,000
Speaker 2: follow this year, okay, Because as college football wound down,

1941
01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 2: there was talking with a new playoff, there was talk

1942
01:41:25,000 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 2: of bowl games, coaches this that. But what's what's the

1943
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 2: primary talk about? Name, image and likeness deals and of

1944
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:38,400
Speaker 2: course the transfer portal because within three days or seven days,

1945
01:41:38,439 --> 01:41:40,560
Speaker 2: ten days only, you know, twenty four hundred kids that

1946
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 2: hit the portal. All right, but then you start putting names.

1947
01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:48,679
Speaker 2: All right. You saw Carson Beck, who was a fixture

1948
01:41:48,680 --> 01:41:52,160
Speaker 2: at Georgia for a couple of years. What did he do?

1949
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 2: He decided to transfer to Miami. What are the details? Well,

1950
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,719
Speaker 2: remember Miami had a quarterback that's talked about as being

1951
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,519
Speaker 2: one of the top two quarterbacks drafted this year, cam Ward.

1952
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 2: You come quite away, quite a long ways from his

1953
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,519
Speaker 2: day as an incarnate word. So Miami goes, we need

1954
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:15,160
Speaker 2: a quarterback. Well, what the hell we got four million

1955
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:19,519
Speaker 2: laying around? Carson Beck? You want to transfer from Georgia

1956
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:23,080
Speaker 2: to Miami for your final year of eligibility? Yeah, what

1957
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,320
Speaker 2: the hell, I got four million reasons you just gave

1958
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 2: me to come there. At least that's the figure that

1959
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 2: I believe going to give Front Office Sports credit for

1960
01:42:32,720 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 2: reporting that figure. All right, have you heard of a

1961
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 2: quarterback named Darien Mensa? Darien Mensa. I don't know if

1962
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,360
Speaker 2: he's a MENSA member, but he's got enough money now

1963
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 2: to buy a Mensa. He transferred from Tulane to Duke.

1964
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 2: I thought Duke was a basketball school. Now they're actually

1965
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 2: a pretty good football school.

1966
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:51,680
Speaker 14: Now.

1967
01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:56,600
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Darien Mensa, and he maybe is a

1968
01:42:56,600 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 2: MENSA student to go to Duke, you gotta be smart

1969
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,360
Speaker 2: to go there. Best of my knowledge, he's going to

1970
01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:03,720
Speaker 2: get eight million dollars over two years. He's got two

1971
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 2: years of eligibility. Mama's let your sons grow up to

1972
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:12,800
Speaker 2: be college quarterbacks. So Carson Beck gets four million to

1973
01:43:12,840 --> 01:43:16,479
Speaker 2: transfer from Georgia to Miami. Darien Mensa gets four million

1974
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 2: times two for two years to transfer from Tulane to Duke.

1975
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 2: By the way, there's another gentleman who matriculated last year

1976
01:43:25,479 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 2: at Washington State. Someday I'll have to ask Chris Plank

1977
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:34,680
Speaker 2: about him. He's transferring to Washington State. It's my understanding,

1978
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 2: he's got two years left. He's also getting four million

1979
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 2: per year. John Mattier to go from Washington State to Oklahoma.

1980
01:43:44,360 --> 01:43:46,559
Speaker 2: If any of these figures are wrong, tweet Abbey. Let

1981
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,880
Speaker 2: me know. I'm not the burning bush here. I'm just

1982
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:52,439
Speaker 2: reporting what I'm reading and seeing and what's out there.

1983
01:43:52,600 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 2: Because now it looks like four million per year that's

1984
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,840
Speaker 2: the going rate. So you want your school to buy

1985
01:43:58,840 --> 01:44:00,840
Speaker 2: a new college quarterback, may not have to get him

1986
01:44:00,840 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 2: twelve million, because I'll tell you and I'll get to

1987
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:06,759
Speaker 2: that in a minute. Bryce Underwood going to Michigan four mayon.

1988
01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:10,080
Speaker 2: Right now, four million prior looks to be the going

1989
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:14,920
Speaker 2: market rate for a top college quarterback. But my guess

1990
01:44:16,280 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 2: it's going going to go up. Okay. Quinn Ewers ended

1991
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 2: up declaring for the NFL Draft. Now, I think arch

1992
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 2: Manning is a much higher ceiling than quinn yours. And

1993
01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:31,080
Speaker 2: what's interesting is when it was known that quinn Ewers

1994
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:34,719
Speaker 2: was leaving Texas because let's face it, by arch Manning,

1995
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 2: he he's paid his dues, he's bied his time, he's

1996
01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 2: a Manning and you can clearly see he's got a

1997
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 2: higher ceiling with all due respect to quin Ewers, who

1998
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:47,400
Speaker 2: remember it wasn't that long ago at a million dollars

1999
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 2: out of high school to go to Ohio State before

2000
01:44:50,439 --> 01:44:52,439
Speaker 2: he ever left high school and couldn't get on the

2001
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 2: field there, so he transferred to Texas. Was supposedly off

2002
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 2: quinn Ewers was supposedly offered eight min million dollars. No,

2003
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 2: we don't know the name of the school to play

2004
01:45:04,439 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 2: one more college season. I gotta tell you he should

2005
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:13,120
Speaker 2: have probably taken it. Won't He won't get that much

2006
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 2: in the NFL, right, not out of the gate eight

2007
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 2: million and he could hone his craft one more year.

2008
01:45:19,040 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 2: So all of a sudden, you know, the nil and

2009
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,160
Speaker 2: the transfer portal forget wild West. I mean it's it's

2010
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 2: this is just you know, bank robbery for crying out

2011
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 2: lows loud. Okay, And in case you missed it, you know,

2012
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 2: for all the knuckleheads it said Ryan Day was in trouble.

2013
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:39,040
Speaker 2: He was never in trouble. He was never in trouble.

2014
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:41,599
Speaker 2: They wouldn't have liked it if he lost to Tennessee.

2015
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 2: They already hated it when he lost to Michigan. But

2016
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,919
Speaker 2: you know they weren't going to bust up their incoming class,

2017
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 2: and they weren't going to run the risk of having

2018
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: a bunch of players who already on that roster transfer

2019
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:57,160
Speaker 2: because in this day and age, man transferring out is

2020
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,439
Speaker 2: like you know, finding a parking spot doesn't take law.

2021
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 2: Just it all culminated because Ohio State spent twenty million

2022
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:10,320
Speaker 2: nil money on their roster last year, all right, and

2023
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:15,280
Speaker 2: they ended up winning a national championship. We believe that

2024
01:46:15,320 --> 01:46:17,200
Speaker 2: it was the biggest payroll, one of the two biggest

2025
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:20,639
Speaker 2: nil payrolls that season. Yes, payroll. So here's where we're

2026
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 2: at right now, the entire an anile system. Excuse me,

2027
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:26,720
Speaker 2: it's looking like it's a way station. It's just a

2028
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:32,000
Speaker 2: stopgap until schools start to involve in revenue sharing with players.

2029
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 2: And I believe the House versus NCAA settlement is about

2030
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: to be adjudicated. Opponents had until yesterday, today's February first.

2031
01:46:44,280 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 2: Now they until yesterday, January thirty first to file their grievances.

2032
01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:51,360
Speaker 2: But for now, this whole nil system pay for play,

2033
01:46:51,960 --> 01:46:56,200
Speaker 2: call it a system. It's very generous. It's carnival. It's

2034
01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:58,920
Speaker 2: the new normal. That's the way it is. You don't

2035
01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 2: like it, you do about it. And because this is

2036
01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:05,799
Speaker 2: the new normal. The biggest distinguishing factor between college sports

2037
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:08,799
Speaker 2: and the pros is now this. You're just a regular Joe.

2038
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,120
Speaker 2: You can't go to the Cincinnati Bengals and say I'll

2039
01:47:12,120 --> 01:47:14,639
Speaker 2: give you ten million, go get this guy. You can, though,

2040
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:18,439
Speaker 2: directly contribute to your school and help them recruit new stars.

2041
01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:21,759
Speaker 2: You can't personally give a million dollars to your favorite

2042
01:47:21,880 --> 01:47:24,360
Speaker 2: NFL team or your favorite NBA team and say go

2043
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,880
Speaker 2: out and get this guy. But you can give a

2044
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:30,280
Speaker 2: million dollars to your alma mater and they're anil collective,

2045
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,519
Speaker 2: so they can go buy a new quarterback or hell,

2046
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:38,080
Speaker 2: running back or power forward for that matter. Now I

2047
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 2: get it. You say, well, you can't do that. You're

2048
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 2: not a multimillionaire. Only the ultra rich can do that, right, Well,

2049
01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:47,639
Speaker 2: that's true, But do you have any idea how many

2050
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 2: ultra rich alumni are floating around at various schools? All right, smu,

2051
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:59,639
Speaker 2: There in Dallas they got nil collectives that are oil bearings,

2052
01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 2: all right, they probably carry around eight million dollars in

2053
01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 2: their wallet. Did you forget who the big benefactor is

2054
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,280
Speaker 2: at Oregon? A guy by the name of Phil Knight,

2055
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,800
Speaker 2: who founded a company called Nike. And now we come

2056
01:48:12,840 --> 01:48:16,920
Speaker 2: back to Michigan. What do you think Michigan got that

2057
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:22,679
Speaker 2: twelve million dollars? All right, Larry Ellison, who I believe

2058
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 2: was one of the founders of Oracle, who's a billionaire, billionaire.

2059
01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,080
Speaker 2: You know how much money a billion dollars is. We

2060
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:34,639
Speaker 2: hear numbers, Okay, we hear numbers. I'm going to give

2061
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 2: you some perspective because you're underestimating how much money a

2062
01:48:37,680 --> 01:48:41,400
Speaker 2: billion dollars is. If you started a count from one

2063
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:44,479
Speaker 2: to a million, one second at a time, they would

2064
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:47,800
Speaker 2: take twelve days. If you started to acount from one

2065
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 2: to a billion one second at a time, that twelve

2066
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:57,280
Speaker 2: days jumps to thirty three years. Twelve days, thirty three years.

2067
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:01,600
Speaker 2: A billion is one thousand million. Larry Ellison's a billionaire

2068
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 2: and his wife went to Michigan and they say, we

2069
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 2: got to buy a quarterback, and that's why they gave

2070
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 2: twelve million dollars to Hugh Bryce Underwood. We'll see how

2071
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 2: it works. By the way, Saint John's University a very

2072
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:20,800
Speaker 2: respected university. They don't even have football team, but they

2073
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:24,920
Speaker 2: got billionaires too, Vitamin water founder Micropole. So even if

2074
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,800
Speaker 2: you're a part, you want to be involved, and you

2075
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:31,000
Speaker 2: don't have Larry Ellison money or phild Knight money or

2076
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:35,360
Speaker 2: right on down the line, you can still contribute. Here's

2077
01:49:35,400 --> 01:49:38,120
Speaker 2: the thing, and I'm waiting to see this. I don't

2078
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:41,400
Speaker 2: know how long this lasts. I don't know a lot

2079
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,080
Speaker 2: of wealthy people who want to give money away without

2080
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 2: some sort of serious return on investment. This is a gamble.

2081
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 2: This is a gamble. He could lead to a national title,

2082
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 2: or the player could get hurt, or the player could

2083
01:49:54,680 --> 01:49:57,679
Speaker 2: be one and done and say I'm out of here, okay,

2084
01:49:58,280 --> 01:50:02,479
Speaker 2: or both after three games. It may feel like ancient

2085
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 2: history now, but it's not earlier. This season, MaTx Luca,

2086
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:11,479
Speaker 2: a quarterback at UNLV who transferred it from Holy Cross,

2087
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 2: who allegedly, by his own description, was offered one hundred

2088
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:19,720
Speaker 2: thousand dollars to come to UNLV, got the team to

2089
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 2: a three and zero start and abruptly announced he'd sit

2090
01:50:23,920 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 2: out the rest of the season over quote nil representations

2091
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 2: he said weren't fulfilled. So this isn't all peaches and cream.

2092
01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 2: One source that works for Front Office Sports apparently he

2093
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:43,519
Speaker 2: donated a few thousand dollars to the Vanderbilt nil collective

2094
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 2: two years ago, obviously before nil prices reached this crazy

2095
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 2: fever pitch that it's almost impossible to get your mind around.

2096
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:56,439
Speaker 2: I was told it was going directly to a specific player, who,

2097
01:50:56,520 --> 01:51:00,800
Speaker 2: according to the source, got about twenty thousand nil money

2098
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:04,080
Speaker 2: from the collector. But six weeks later that player says, hey,

2099
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 2: this is all alleged. I can't prove this is his

2100
01:51:07,479 --> 01:51:11,160
Speaker 2: reports I hear. So he gets twenty thousand dollars from

2101
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 2: a benefactor that wanted to see Vanderbilt do well, and

2102
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, six weeks later he says, hey,

2103
01:51:17,640 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 2: Georgia came calling. They're going to give me two hundred

2104
01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:25,040
Speaker 2: one thousand. And the source allegedly said, I wait a minute,

2105
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,759
Speaker 2: what about my money? Do I get it back? And

2106
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 2: somebody who raised the money for the collector says, ah,

2107
01:51:31,000 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 2: that's a good question. I don't know, but I don't

2108
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:36,439
Speaker 2: think so. How'd you like to be that guy? Now

2109
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 2: back to Ohio State, Their massive payroll delivered the Buckeyes

2110
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:46,439
Speaker 2: their first championship of the newly created twelve team playoff era.

2111
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:49,960
Speaker 2: But as a guy named Matt Brown wrote for the

2112
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,880
Speaker 2: front off of Sports, the big price tag doesn't tell

2113
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:56,360
Speaker 2: the whole story. By the way, Oregon, which also had

2114
01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 2: an eight figure in asle roster, didn't even make it

2115
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:01,360
Speaker 2: past the second round. So he pays your money. It

2116
01:52:01,400 --> 01:52:03,840
Speaker 2: takes your chances. In this new world of nil and

2117
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 2: Collin sports recruiting. Cash buys you nothing. It buys you

2118
01:52:07,479 --> 01:52:10,559
Speaker 2: a gamble. It doesn't guarantee victory, but you'd rather have

2119
01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 2: it than not have it. Come it up. Some very

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Speaker 2: All right, some disturbing news in the National Basketball Association

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Speaker 2: stemming from an event back in March in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: three involving Terry Rozier, a guard and by the way,

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Speaker 2: you've heard me talk about John Tay Porters and his

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Speaker 2: lifetime ban and the information that has resulted from some

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Speaker 2: of the investigations that appear to be connected to a

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Speaker 2: much larger federal probe into even college players wagering on

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Speaker 2: their own teams. I don't have any details, but we're

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Speaker 2: watching this. And in addition to again, former NBA player

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Speaker 2: John Tay Porter who was just banned from the league

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Speaker 2: for life last year as well he should be if

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Speaker 2: you know the story, well, all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 2: investigators are starting to look in new performances of other

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Speaker 2: NBA players, and sources say that Terry Rozier, he currently

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Speaker 2: played for the Miami Heat, is a subject of certain

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Speaker 2: scrutiny dating back to his time with the Charlotte Hornets

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. Now Rosier has been in the

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Speaker 2: league eleven years. He's a decent player, fourteen point a

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Speaker 2: game guy, and he's you know, more prominent than John

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Speaker 2: Day Porter was, but he's still basically a bench player.

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Speaker 2: And Ford was, you know, the guy, a three point

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Speaker 2: a game guy in parts of two seasons. And the

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Speaker 2: Porter case arose after he allegedly, you know, had amassed

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Speaker 2: significant gambling debts by about this time last year is

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Speaker 2: when it was reported, and in order to have the

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Speaker 2: debts forgiven, allegedly, Porter agreed to leave certain games early

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Speaker 2: to ensure the success of prop bets that he would

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Speaker 2: underperform expectations. So what do we mean by that. Let's

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Speaker 2: there was a prop at that terry that John Tay

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Speaker 2: Porter would be involved in and you could bet that

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Speaker 2: he would have over or under, say two and a

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Speaker 2: half rebounds, and before he got to you'd bet the under,

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Speaker 2: and he would you know, allegedly communicate to betters, hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, go under tonight, and he would leave the

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Speaker 2: game for whatever reason well before he got the two

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Speaker 2: rebounds and betters could cash. And I heard their stories.

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Speaker 2: They the the the forensic evidence allegedly found texts that said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm out of the game now blah blah blah. Well,

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Speaker 2: this is getting serious, Okay. Apparently the Eastern District Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, excuse me, the US Attorney's

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Speaker 2: Office is not handling these inquiries into some very suspicious wagering,

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Speaker 2: which these things are monitored, including by companies. My buddy

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Speaker 2: Mett Hope founded US Integrity, and now they're handling an

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Speaker 2: inquiry into at least one particular Temple men's university basketball

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Speaker 2: game last March against Alabama Birmingham. And in that game,

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Speaker 2: the first half wagering line jumped from University of Alabama

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Speaker 2: being favored by one and a half points to them

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Speaker 2: being favored by eight points, which prompted an alert to

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Speaker 2: be sent out from the monitoring service I just mentioned

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Speaker 2: US Integrity. Some betting outlets stopped accepting wagers on the game, which, oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, UAB won by twenty eight points after

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Speaker 2: leading by fifteen points at halftime. You get the feelings

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Speaker 2: somebody knew something. A player at the center of that inquiry,

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Speaker 2: allegedly his former Temple guard named Fab Miller, who was

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Speaker 2: the OWLS leading scorer last season. Miller scored eight points,

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Speaker 2: committed three toners in the game, made three to nine

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Speaker 2: field goals. He transferred from Temple to Virginia Tech during

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Speaker 2: the offseason, but was dismissed by Virginia Tech before the

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Speaker 2: season began for what the school said where quote circumstances

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Speaker 2: before his enrollment at Virginia Tech. So you've got the

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Speaker 2: college game being looked at. You already saw what happened

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Speaker 2: with Johnte Porter getting looked at, and now you have

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Speaker 2: a guard who currently plays for the Miami Heat named

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Speaker 2: Terry Rozier. All this, I'm sure is quite concerning to

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Speaker 2: Commissioner Adam Silver, who in any major league, in any

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Speaker 2: major league, wants to ensure that their product and the

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Speaker 2: integrator of the outcome is honest. So there are not

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Speaker 2: just one, but numerous investigations underway, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: safe to say things that are starting to get a

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Speaker 2: little ugly. This is serious business. I'm looking for more

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Speaker 2: rope to tage on this. Remember, gambling was legalized in

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen and thirty two states are on board, and

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Speaker 2: for the most part it's been pretty good. But these

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Speaker 2: things start to raise eyebrowns. And these are stories we're

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Speaker 2: going to continue to follow, including Saturday night, when I'm

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Speaker 2: back on these airwaves at eleven PM sit for the

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Speaker 2: Bernie Frider Show. Keep it locked up next to Fellas

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