1 00:00:05,126 --> 00:00:08,086 Speaker 1: And Huddle is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:08,126 --> 00:00:18,286 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,886 --> 00:00:22,286 Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody? Great to have you with us yet 4 00:00:22,486 --> 00:00:25,726 Speaker 2: again for another edition of the l Huddle podcast. I 5 00:00:25,806 --> 00:00:29,926 Speaker 2: am merely Will Salva alongside my Ermana, my Prima, my 6 00:00:30,046 --> 00:00:33,766 Speaker 2: Prima Ermana m J Cassa Ruiz, who has been a 7 00:00:33,926 --> 00:00:36,646 Speaker 2: jet setter, jet setting to New York. 8 00:00:37,006 --> 00:00:39,686 Speaker 3: I know of late how fine it was awesome. I 9 00:00:39,766 --> 00:00:40,526 Speaker 3: missed you though, Will. 10 00:00:40,606 --> 00:00:44,606 Speaker 1: I will say this only in Midtown Midtown in New 11 00:00:44,686 --> 00:00:49,846 Speaker 1: York can you walk into a Starbucks and blasting from 12 00:00:50,086 --> 00:00:53,606 Speaker 1: the speakers is Romeo Santos. If you're not familiar, he's 13 00:00:53,606 --> 00:00:58,166 Speaker 1: one of the most popular Butchata Latin artists. 14 00:00:57,366 --> 00:01:00,326 Speaker 3: Like in the world. And those are my people. 15 00:01:00,326 --> 00:01:01,926 Speaker 1: It was great. First of all, I know every song 16 00:01:02,006 --> 00:01:04,166 Speaker 1: because he's Dominican, so like we know that this is 17 00:01:04,166 --> 00:01:04,806 Speaker 1: like in our blood. 18 00:01:04,926 --> 00:01:06,726 Speaker 3: But I was like, yep, I'm in New York. This 19 00:01:06,766 --> 00:01:07,406 Speaker 3: is fantastic. 20 00:01:07,486 --> 00:01:10,406 Speaker 1: So it was cool to sort of feel that little 21 00:01:10,446 --> 00:01:11,766 Speaker 1: bit of my culture again. 22 00:01:11,766 --> 00:01:13,766 Speaker 3: Obviously New York has so many Dominicans. It's where I 23 00:01:13,806 --> 00:01:14,206 Speaker 3: grew up. 24 00:01:14,886 --> 00:01:18,166 Speaker 1: So it was like immediately like out the gate first landed, 25 00:01:18,326 --> 00:01:21,246 Speaker 1: went to go get coffee. Oh yeah, we're here, even 26 00:01:21,286 --> 00:01:23,846 Speaker 1: in Midtown where it's not really more so the Dominicans live. 27 00:01:23,886 --> 00:01:25,846 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh no, we're out here, man, we are 28 00:01:25,846 --> 00:01:27,966 Speaker 1: out here. So it was great, but you know what happens, 29 00:01:28,006 --> 00:01:29,406 Speaker 1: like when you go on trips and like you know, 30 00:01:29,446 --> 00:01:32,606 Speaker 1: there's family around, I can't, Like, I can't. My mom 31 00:01:32,726 --> 00:01:34,966 Speaker 1: was so mad. Right well, I couldn't. I didn't tell 32 00:01:34,966 --> 00:01:37,766 Speaker 1: her that I was going, and she immediately called me 33 00:01:38,526 --> 00:01:40,366 Speaker 1: and she's like, I don't know my the heaste that 34 00:01:40,406 --> 00:01:42,006 Speaker 1: you were going. I'm like, no, you know why, because 35 00:01:42,046 --> 00:01:44,766 Speaker 1: you're going to send a family newsletter and I don't 36 00:01:44,806 --> 00:01:47,086 Speaker 1: have this amount of time. I came to have a 37 00:01:47,126 --> 00:01:49,966 Speaker 1: little fun, do like touristy things, even though I know 38 00:01:50,046 --> 00:01:51,926 Speaker 1: the city, but just like it was the first time 39 00:01:51,966 --> 00:01:55,566 Speaker 1: I had been there not for work purposes inny years, 40 00:01:55,886 --> 00:01:57,126 Speaker 1: So I was like, I just want to take in 41 00:01:57,206 --> 00:01:58,366 Speaker 1: the city. Mom, I don't want to have to go 42 00:01:58,446 --> 00:02:00,886 Speaker 1: to the Bronx. How did you take respectfully? 43 00:02:02,166 --> 00:02:03,046 Speaker 3: She wasn't thrilled with me. 44 00:02:04,846 --> 00:02:07,486 Speaker 2: How big of a guilty burden did you feel on 45 00:02:07,526 --> 00:02:07,886 Speaker 2: your show? 46 00:02:08,086 --> 00:02:11,166 Speaker 1: No? None, I'm too grown. Well, I'm done with the 47 00:02:11,246 --> 00:02:15,046 Speaker 1: Latina guilt. I'm not seeing every single one of my thes. 48 00:02:15,086 --> 00:02:17,406 Speaker 1: They know I love them, they know I love them dearly. 49 00:02:17,606 --> 00:02:18,966 Speaker 1: But if I'm going to set up a trip to 50 00:02:18,966 --> 00:02:20,806 Speaker 1: see family, then that's what I'm gonna do. Because it's 51 00:02:20,846 --> 00:02:23,686 Speaker 1: a different itinerary, you feel me, there's a different output 52 00:02:23,726 --> 00:02:27,446 Speaker 1: of energy, there's a different level of commitment put there. Now, 53 00:02:27,806 --> 00:02:30,286 Speaker 1: did I miss going to my Thea's house and getting 54 00:02:30,486 --> 00:02:32,686 Speaker 1: bomb Dominican food for dinner? 55 00:02:32,726 --> 00:02:32,886 Speaker 3: Yes? 56 00:02:32,926 --> 00:02:33,166 Speaker 4: I did. 57 00:02:33,326 --> 00:02:34,686 Speaker 3: I missed that very very much. 58 00:02:34,966 --> 00:02:36,606 Speaker 1: But yeah, I can't have it both ways, right, So 59 00:02:36,766 --> 00:02:39,406 Speaker 1: either committing to going and having like the full family trip, 60 00:02:40,006 --> 00:02:41,246 Speaker 1: or I'm going to do my own thing. 61 00:02:41,326 --> 00:02:43,526 Speaker 3: So I chose. I chose the latter. It's fine. 62 00:02:43,526 --> 00:02:46,486 Speaker 1: The next one will absolutely be family driven, and I 63 00:02:46,486 --> 00:02:48,086 Speaker 1: will give my mom plenty of heads up so she 64 00:02:48,126 --> 00:02:50,366 Speaker 1: can tell everybody on WhatsApp or whatever it is that 65 00:02:50,366 --> 00:02:51,326 Speaker 1: they use to communicate. 66 00:02:51,646 --> 00:02:54,566 Speaker 2: But you see my parents, my mom, she would give 67 00:02:54,606 --> 00:02:59,446 Speaker 2: me the biggest guilt trip if I went there. And 68 00:03:00,486 --> 00:03:01,966 Speaker 2: you know, but I mean it would be something like 69 00:03:02,006 --> 00:03:03,646 Speaker 2: I would be feeling this sting. 70 00:03:03,486 --> 00:03:04,126 Speaker 4: For a while. 71 00:03:05,406 --> 00:03:09,246 Speaker 3: I've unsubscribed from that from that line of things. 72 00:03:09,726 --> 00:03:11,286 Speaker 2: He scroll to the bottom of the page and you 73 00:03:11,326 --> 00:03:13,926 Speaker 2: hit immediately subscribe Marcus Spam. 74 00:03:14,086 --> 00:03:16,446 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're done. We're done. 75 00:03:16,606 --> 00:03:20,646 Speaker 1: But that's those great. We had our great interview last week. 76 00:03:20,686 --> 00:03:23,966 Speaker 1: I listened to it, my Florida boy. 77 00:03:24,846 --> 00:03:28,926 Speaker 2: Yeah guy, come on as you guy, I mean, talk 78 00:03:28,966 --> 00:03:30,886 Speaker 2: about melding of worlds, right, I. 79 00:03:30,806 --> 00:03:34,446 Speaker 3: Know everything together was like us in a in a guest. 80 00:03:36,326 --> 00:03:36,846 Speaker 4: I love it. 81 00:03:36,926 --> 00:03:40,486 Speaker 2: I love it still though, miss you as always not 82 00:03:40,526 --> 00:03:44,286 Speaker 2: the same without you. You know we we now are 83 00:03:44,406 --> 00:03:48,686 Speaker 2: seeing these prospects mj who are now done with their visits, 84 00:03:49,206 --> 00:03:53,086 Speaker 2: and one of the visits that was reported on was 85 00:03:53,126 --> 00:03:57,806 Speaker 2: the visit of Will Levis to the Patriots, and the 86 00:03:57,806 --> 00:04:01,646 Speaker 2: Patriots currently hold the fourteenth overall pick. This leads the 87 00:04:01,686 --> 00:04:08,246 Speaker 2: speculation about mac Jones and in a recent press conference, 88 00:04:08,326 --> 00:04:13,566 Speaker 2: spill O'Brien and you oc didn't really say Max my guy. 89 00:04:14,326 --> 00:04:17,206 Speaker 2: He just said, hey, everybody's going to have a clean slate. 90 00:04:17,286 --> 00:04:18,646 Speaker 3: What do you think I mean? 91 00:04:18,726 --> 00:04:22,886 Speaker 1: I actually think that Bill O'Brien will be so good 92 00:04:22,926 --> 00:04:25,206 Speaker 1: for Mac Jones. He's a guy who's had proven success 93 00:04:25,206 --> 00:04:27,606 Speaker 1: with that organization, and I think it's more in line 94 00:04:27,846 --> 00:04:31,206 Speaker 1: with the skill set that mac Jones brings as a quarterback. 95 00:04:31,246 --> 00:04:33,246 Speaker 3: What we saw from his first season. 96 00:04:32,926 --> 00:04:35,686 Speaker 1: When they made that playoff push hello rookie making an 97 00:04:35,686 --> 00:04:37,526 Speaker 1: appearance in the post. I think last year was sort 98 00:04:37,566 --> 00:04:39,406 Speaker 1: of like that sophomore slump. There was a lot of 99 00:04:39,446 --> 00:04:42,726 Speaker 1: tension there. We saw mac Jones get chippy on the sidelines, which, 100 00:04:42,766 --> 00:04:45,526 Speaker 1: by the way, I was not against. I like seeing 101 00:04:45,526 --> 00:04:47,406 Speaker 1: a little bit of that of that cheese spat, that 102 00:04:47,446 --> 00:04:50,006 Speaker 1: little spark in somebody. I was like, all right, there. 103 00:04:49,886 --> 00:04:53,366 Speaker 3: He is, let's get it. So I think this could 104 00:04:53,406 --> 00:04:54,886 Speaker 3: be in terms of a clean slate. 105 00:04:55,006 --> 00:04:58,286 Speaker 1: I took it as you know what, Now we can 106 00:04:58,326 --> 00:05:01,766 Speaker 1: sort of let's call it a mulligan on mac Jones 107 00:05:01,806 --> 00:05:04,926 Speaker 1: the second year, and let's see what really under this 108 00:05:04,806 --> 00:05:07,526 Speaker 1: this new direction, under this OC, what it looks like. 109 00:05:07,566 --> 00:05:09,726 Speaker 3: And I think he'll he'll really evolve and grow. 110 00:05:09,846 --> 00:05:11,806 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you need that adversity right to 111 00:05:11,846 --> 00:05:14,686 Speaker 1: build character, not only in this league, but you know, 112 00:05:15,486 --> 00:05:19,566 Speaker 1: to get you going, especially in an organization a dynasty 113 00:05:20,446 --> 00:05:21,806 Speaker 1: like what the Patriots are. 114 00:05:22,006 --> 00:05:23,926 Speaker 3: So I'm excited for him. 115 00:05:23,926 --> 00:05:26,126 Speaker 1: I actually don't see it as the negative, and especially 116 00:05:26,126 --> 00:05:29,886 Speaker 1: if it's like a well love situation entirely different. 117 00:05:30,766 --> 00:05:34,486 Speaker 2: Totally familiarity from their days in Alabama. This is his 118 00:05:35,126 --> 00:05:41,126 Speaker 2: third OC experience in three years, exactly something that helps 119 00:05:41,166 --> 00:05:44,806 Speaker 2: the development of a young quarterback. It was it was 120 00:05:44,846 --> 00:05:49,326 Speaker 2: suggested that that last year his dual ocs were like 121 00:05:49,326 --> 00:05:52,486 Speaker 2: the disgusting brothers from Succession. You know, it's like cousin 122 00:05:52,606 --> 00:05:54,926 Speaker 2: Greg and Tom Wamsgan, who are there? 123 00:05:55,046 --> 00:05:58,446 Speaker 1: I just started Succession by the way, So like the 124 00:05:58,486 --> 00:06:01,486 Speaker 1: fact that I understand the reference makes you understand. 125 00:06:01,886 --> 00:06:04,166 Speaker 2: Now you mean like this past season. 126 00:06:04,046 --> 00:06:06,406 Speaker 3: Or like I'm I'm in season one, episode six. 127 00:06:07,206 --> 00:06:09,126 Speaker 2: Wow, Okay, I'm thinking it so far. 128 00:06:09,886 --> 00:06:12,166 Speaker 1: First of all, there's nobody to root for, which I 129 00:06:12,166 --> 00:06:15,646 Speaker 1: think is the point. Yeah, the show unlike our life 130 00:06:15,686 --> 00:06:19,086 Speaker 1: where we root for everyone, especially these prospects going into 131 00:06:19,126 --> 00:06:19,606 Speaker 1: the NFL. 132 00:06:19,646 --> 00:06:21,326 Speaker 3: But yeah, we could have a whole other podcast on 133 00:06:21,486 --> 00:06:22,766 Speaker 3: just what's going on there. 134 00:06:22,846 --> 00:06:25,166 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I haven't even scratched the surface, is what 135 00:06:25,206 --> 00:06:26,006 Speaker 1: people are telling me. 136 00:06:26,646 --> 00:06:30,806 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So you got to keep keep binging, keep watching. 137 00:06:31,206 --> 00:06:34,046 Speaker 1: The problem is I started it with David with my husband, 138 00:06:34,406 --> 00:06:35,606 Speaker 1: so now I can't. 139 00:06:35,886 --> 00:06:37,286 Speaker 3: I can't watch to wait for him. 140 00:06:37,566 --> 00:06:41,206 Speaker 2: That's always like the dilemma were in. Yeah. Sometimes sometimes 141 00:06:41,526 --> 00:06:44,446 Speaker 2: like I feel like like it's better just to be 142 00:06:44,566 --> 00:06:47,606 Speaker 2: separate with trying to binge these shows because of the 143 00:06:47,686 --> 00:06:50,446 Speaker 2: schedule it's too or what if he. 144 00:06:50,446 --> 00:06:52,166 Speaker 1: Doesn't want to binge it that day, Like I'm always 145 00:06:52,166 --> 00:06:54,286 Speaker 1: down for a binge, but like he sometimes he's like, no, 146 00:06:54,366 --> 00:06:54,966 Speaker 1: I want to laugh. 147 00:06:55,806 --> 00:06:58,526 Speaker 3: Which it is a dark comedy, so very dark it is. 148 00:06:58,646 --> 00:07:01,406 Speaker 2: It is, and all the characters really are pathetic and 149 00:07:01,406 --> 00:07:04,086 Speaker 2: that's what makes it so fun. And the interaction and 150 00:07:04,126 --> 00:07:07,366 Speaker 2: the the comebacks or are just crackling. I love it. 151 00:07:07,446 --> 00:07:10,766 Speaker 2: So got to keep us updated on that. And we've 152 00:07:10,806 --> 00:07:14,566 Speaker 2: talked about the forty nine ers quarterback situation and our 153 00:07:14,606 --> 00:07:17,606 Speaker 2: guy Ian rapport reporting that the forty nine ers are 154 00:07:17,726 --> 00:07:22,206 Speaker 2: listening listening to calls on trade lance, but they're not 155 00:07:22,406 --> 00:07:28,446 Speaker 2: actively seeking a trade at all. As Rock Purty gets healthy, 156 00:07:28,606 --> 00:07:29,246 Speaker 2: what do you think? 157 00:07:29,646 --> 00:07:33,246 Speaker 1: I think, Look, it's nice to be courted, right to 158 00:07:33,286 --> 00:07:34,846 Speaker 1: have people picking up the phone about you. 159 00:07:34,926 --> 00:07:36,286 Speaker 3: If I'm Trey Lance. 160 00:07:36,366 --> 00:07:39,566 Speaker 1: The reality is we haven't even gone to see his 161 00:07:39,686 --> 00:07:42,806 Speaker 1: full potential. We haven't even seen his base level potential yet, 162 00:07:42,846 --> 00:07:44,846 Speaker 1: because it's such a small sample size of the games 163 00:07:44,846 --> 00:07:47,046 Speaker 1: that he's actually started for the forty nine Ers and 164 00:07:47,086 --> 00:07:50,086 Speaker 1: the very unfortunate injury that he suffered last season. So 165 00:07:50,526 --> 00:07:53,006 Speaker 1: I think the upside there. I will say this about 166 00:07:53,006 --> 00:07:55,966 Speaker 1: all of these teams calling if I'm another team, and 167 00:07:56,006 --> 00:07:59,526 Speaker 1: this is a quarterback that Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch 168 00:08:00,166 --> 00:08:04,486 Speaker 1: jumped up to get in the draft. I'm trusting their scouting, right, 169 00:08:04,966 --> 00:08:08,606 Speaker 1: trusting what they the due diligence they did on this 170 00:08:08,806 --> 00:08:11,886 Speaker 1: quarterback one hundred percent. So it's like, all right, well, 171 00:08:12,126 --> 00:08:14,086 Speaker 1: Shanny and co. Did the work for me, Like, why 172 00:08:14,126 --> 00:08:16,166 Speaker 1: wouldn't I give this guy a chance? Because really, if 173 00:08:16,206 --> 00:08:18,646 Speaker 1: you're thinking about the amount of quarterbacks that we have, 174 00:08:18,846 --> 00:08:21,086 Speaker 1: if you're a team that doesn't have high draft capital, 175 00:08:21,246 --> 00:08:23,366 Speaker 1: you maybe in the second round, in the third round, 176 00:08:23,366 --> 00:08:26,086 Speaker 1: and you are looking for a QB, even if it's 177 00:08:26,126 --> 00:08:29,446 Speaker 1: not maybe a starter, you're taking, in my opinion, the 178 00:08:29,446 --> 00:08:32,846 Speaker 1: same amount of risk and going after Trey Lance. Then 179 00:08:33,366 --> 00:08:36,846 Speaker 1: one of these prospects who, yes, we know the evaluations, 180 00:08:36,886 --> 00:08:38,606 Speaker 1: we've seen what they've done at the combine, what they've 181 00:08:38,606 --> 00:08:41,606 Speaker 1: done in college, but you just don't know until they 182 00:08:41,686 --> 00:08:43,246 Speaker 1: hit the field in the NFL. 183 00:08:43,606 --> 00:08:47,366 Speaker 2: So I don't know if you saw this. It was 184 00:08:47,886 --> 00:08:53,446 Speaker 2: in the USA Today Sports section and it had the 185 00:08:53,486 --> 00:08:58,126 Speaker 2: top fifty bus Oh I do from the draft, right, 186 00:08:58,326 --> 00:09:01,166 Speaker 2: and so you know they have Ryan Leaf and Tony 187 00:09:01,246 --> 00:09:03,406 Speaker 2: Mandrich and Jeff George. 188 00:09:03,486 --> 00:09:05,366 Speaker 1: I've heard Ryan leafs same so many times this week? 189 00:09:05,366 --> 00:09:06,806 Speaker 1: Can we let the man lived? 190 00:09:06,966 --> 00:09:08,886 Speaker 2: I know, well, he said he came on our show, 191 00:09:08,926 --> 00:09:12,086 Speaker 2: He's like, just let me be and he's grappled with it. 192 00:09:12,406 --> 00:09:16,086 Speaker 2: And and he just said what because Bill Pollian talked 193 00:09:16,126 --> 00:09:19,846 Speaker 2: about meeting him at the combine and Ryan Leeve came 194 00:09:19,886 --> 00:09:22,686 Speaker 2: on our show and said, Nope, that didn't happen. And 195 00:09:22,886 --> 00:09:26,846 Speaker 2: I feel like like my name has been sullied. I understood, yeah, 196 00:09:26,926 --> 00:09:29,966 Speaker 2: oh yeah, I know, I know, so it was actually 197 00:09:30,166 --> 00:09:33,086 Speaker 2: it was actually I don't know, it's fun. But but 198 00:09:33,246 --> 00:09:36,966 Speaker 2: to see see that on fold, it's like, Ryan, you know, 199 00:09:37,086 --> 00:09:40,126 Speaker 2: set the record straight. So uh. The reason why I 200 00:09:40,166 --> 00:09:44,326 Speaker 2: bring this up, though, is because Zach Wilson was on 201 00:09:44,366 --> 00:09:49,006 Speaker 2: the list and Trey Lance was on. 202 00:09:49,166 --> 00:09:53,286 Speaker 3: The I because we haven't really anything yet, right, I 203 00:09:53,526 --> 00:09:54,286 Speaker 3: thought that was. 204 00:09:54,246 --> 00:09:56,446 Speaker 2: Like too soon, because we have not seen enough. I 205 00:09:56,486 --> 00:09:59,966 Speaker 2: feel like we've seen enough of Zach Wilson for crying 206 00:10:00,006 --> 00:10:03,166 Speaker 2: out loud. They're just waiting for Aaron Rodgers to to 207 00:10:03,246 --> 00:10:07,886 Speaker 2: get there. And Solid did his best to try to 208 00:10:08,006 --> 00:10:12,206 Speaker 2: defuse the situation by saying, hey, listen, he's making strides 209 00:10:12,326 --> 00:10:15,446 Speaker 2: or trying to help him out. But you know, didn't 210 00:10:15,486 --> 00:10:18,886 Speaker 2: win in the podium, not winning on the field. I 211 00:10:19,006 --> 00:10:22,686 Speaker 2: get this, Zach Wilson one. But the Trey lances too soon? 212 00:10:23,006 --> 00:10:23,766 Speaker 3: Yeah, just too soon. 213 00:10:23,846 --> 00:10:25,966 Speaker 1: I don't think we have enough to go off to 214 00:10:26,006 --> 00:10:32,126 Speaker 1: say a bus now injury concerns. Perhaps, perhaps that's legit, yeah, 215 00:10:32,166 --> 00:10:35,766 Speaker 1: but to say that he's a bus already, now, maybe 216 00:10:35,766 --> 00:10:38,646 Speaker 1: they're going off of information that we're not privy to. Well, 217 00:10:38,686 --> 00:10:41,726 Speaker 1: but I just I need to I don't know, maybe 218 00:10:42,166 --> 00:10:43,766 Speaker 1: I need to see it and or not see it 219 00:10:43,846 --> 00:10:44,766 Speaker 1: right out on the field. 220 00:10:44,846 --> 00:10:48,966 Speaker 2: So right right now, how about your guy Tua saying 221 00:10:49,046 --> 00:10:51,246 Speaker 2: that he thought about retiring. 222 00:10:51,606 --> 00:10:55,286 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, of course he did. I think 223 00:10:55,326 --> 00:10:59,206 Speaker 1: when you have I think it would have been disingenuous 224 00:10:59,526 --> 00:11:01,686 Speaker 1: for him to say that he hadn't thought about it. 225 00:11:01,966 --> 00:11:04,526 Speaker 1: And we know him well enough. We know the type 226 00:11:04,526 --> 00:11:06,406 Speaker 1: of man that he is that he's always going to 227 00:11:07,486 --> 00:11:11,766 Speaker 1: speak the truth in terms of his experience, right, So 228 00:11:11,886 --> 00:11:15,006 Speaker 1: I actually appreciated that he was candid enough to say 229 00:11:15,006 --> 00:11:17,566 Speaker 1: that to us, because, by the way, that's none of 230 00:11:17,566 --> 00:11:20,486 Speaker 1: our business, like that is to his point, And he 231 00:11:20,566 --> 00:11:22,846 Speaker 1: said this directly or direct quote, it is my health, 232 00:11:22,886 --> 00:11:24,766 Speaker 1: it is my body, it is my career. And I 233 00:11:24,806 --> 00:11:27,566 Speaker 1: agree with that. But when you have that type of 234 00:11:27,646 --> 00:11:30,286 Speaker 1: injury and the type of season that he had last 235 00:11:30,366 --> 00:11:33,806 Speaker 1: year and all that he went through. You have a 236 00:11:34,046 --> 00:11:38,966 Speaker 1: new baby, boy, you're contemplating these things with your wife, Like, 237 00:11:39,486 --> 00:11:42,806 Speaker 1: that's heavy. I can't even I can't even imagine, because 238 00:11:43,566 --> 00:11:45,166 Speaker 1: neither of us have been in that position, you know 239 00:11:45,166 --> 00:11:47,366 Speaker 1: what I mean. So it's like, yeah, of course you 240 00:11:47,446 --> 00:11:49,446 Speaker 1: have to put that on the table and discuss it, 241 00:11:49,446 --> 00:11:51,966 Speaker 1: even if you dismiss it immediately, which seems to have 242 00:11:52,006 --> 00:11:54,366 Speaker 1: been the case with him. I think, of course we're 243 00:11:54,406 --> 00:11:56,286 Speaker 1: going to grab that word and be like, oh my 244 00:11:56,366 --> 00:11:59,486 Speaker 1: god and like run with it. But like it would 245 00:11:59,526 --> 00:12:03,566 Speaker 1: be it would be unfair to not talk about that option, 246 00:12:04,286 --> 00:12:06,726 Speaker 1: or at least what does it look like down the line, 247 00:12:06,766 --> 00:12:09,006 Speaker 1: Let's go to worst case scenario, best kid scenario, Like 248 00:12:09,046 --> 00:12:11,486 Speaker 1: you really do have to have such a comprehensive conversation 249 00:12:11,766 --> 00:12:15,246 Speaker 1: and have backup plans for everything. So I think it 250 00:12:15,286 --> 00:12:17,806 Speaker 1: was very sage of him to say that. 251 00:12:17,966 --> 00:12:20,206 Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, I'm rooting. 252 00:12:19,886 --> 00:12:21,606 Speaker 1: For the guy because not only am I a Dolphins fan, 253 00:12:21,686 --> 00:12:24,606 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a to a fan, and I think last 254 00:12:24,646 --> 00:12:27,046 Speaker 1: year it was so hard to square was seeing him 255 00:12:27,086 --> 00:12:30,686 Speaker 1: play at the potential that not only the Dolphins knew 256 00:12:30,686 --> 00:12:32,046 Speaker 1: he had, but I think the people who had been 257 00:12:32,046 --> 00:12:34,166 Speaker 1: following him through this college career knew he had. I mean, 258 00:12:34,166 --> 00:12:37,206 Speaker 1: he was on pace for a four thousand new yard 259 00:12:37,246 --> 00:12:38,046 Speaker 1: season more than. 260 00:12:37,886 --> 00:12:44,846 Speaker 2: That efficient, so incredibly efficient, and that offense was absolutely 261 00:12:44,926 --> 00:12:49,806 Speaker 2: humming when it was going. M right, So I get 262 00:12:49,846 --> 00:12:53,326 Speaker 2: that it's it's on the table and should be on 263 00:12:53,366 --> 00:12:57,926 Speaker 2: the table. He also said that he was training in 264 00:12:58,006 --> 00:13:02,326 Speaker 2: jiu jitsu to help him learn to fall safely. Yep, 265 00:13:03,126 --> 00:13:06,366 Speaker 2: And I know guys are taking jiu jitsu. It seems 266 00:13:06,406 --> 00:13:10,606 Speaker 2: like it's something that helps out with with their their quickness, 267 00:13:10,966 --> 00:13:13,406 Speaker 2: you know, and hand eye, et cetera. And so if 268 00:13:13,406 --> 00:13:16,006 Speaker 2: that helps him out, let's hope it does. That the 269 00:13:16,086 --> 00:13:19,206 Speaker 2: O line is healthy enough to keep him healthy back there, 270 00:13:19,566 --> 00:13:23,206 Speaker 2: because I did see that offense was so much fun, 271 00:13:23,646 --> 00:13:26,086 Speaker 2: and we wondered how it would be like with Tyreek 272 00:13:26,206 --> 00:13:29,006 Speaker 2: Hill and Jalen Waddle and those guys, each guy one 273 00:13:29,006 --> 00:13:32,966 Speaker 2: thousand yards. So uh, it's it's better to see two 274 00:13:33,006 --> 00:13:36,606 Speaker 2: out there not hurting. But obviously his health is first 275 00:13:36,606 --> 00:13:37,206 Speaker 2: and foremost. 276 00:13:37,406 --> 00:13:40,326 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I actually really like on the jiu jitsu point. 277 00:13:40,326 --> 00:13:41,526 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this about me will, 278 00:13:41,566 --> 00:13:44,606 Speaker 1: But very early on in my career I covered box. 279 00:13:44,446 --> 00:13:45,686 Speaker 3: Did you take me no? 280 00:13:45,806 --> 00:13:45,926 Speaker 5: Oh? 281 00:13:45,966 --> 00:13:48,486 Speaker 2: Okay, okay? 282 00:13:49,206 --> 00:13:52,926 Speaker 1: But I did cover boxing at MMA very very closely. 283 00:13:52,966 --> 00:13:54,726 Speaker 1: I was a licensed boxing an out there for the 284 00:13:54,726 --> 00:13:59,606 Speaker 1: Florida Boxing Commission, Yes, So I was around it at 285 00:13:59,646 --> 00:14:04,046 Speaker 1: these gyms, talking to these instructors and to these athletes 286 00:14:04,566 --> 00:14:05,366 Speaker 1: for years. 287 00:14:05,886 --> 00:14:08,846 Speaker 3: And the whole thing about jiu jitsu is. 288 00:14:08,886 --> 00:14:11,886 Speaker 1: The grappling aspect of it, the takedown to the ground, 289 00:14:12,406 --> 00:14:14,326 Speaker 1: the being able, and I think Tua said this in 290 00:14:14,406 --> 00:14:18,606 Speaker 1: his press conference, was being able to disperse your energy, 291 00:14:18,886 --> 00:14:23,526 Speaker 1: right like not just getting out of something on the ground, 292 00:14:23,606 --> 00:14:26,886 Speaker 1: but also being able to know that you're okay, to 293 00:14:26,966 --> 00:14:29,046 Speaker 1: not freak out, to know how to protect yourself. So 294 00:14:29,246 --> 00:14:31,486 Speaker 1: I think those are all things. Now how quickly he 295 00:14:31,526 --> 00:14:33,846 Speaker 1: can actually put those into practice in a football setting, 296 00:14:33,846 --> 00:14:38,046 Speaker 1: because don't forget, the octagon is very different than than 297 00:14:38,046 --> 00:14:41,046 Speaker 1: the grid iron, right, So I think it's being able 298 00:14:41,086 --> 00:14:44,846 Speaker 1: to use those skills tangibly into being able to protect 299 00:14:44,886 --> 00:14:47,646 Speaker 1: himself to have that longevity in his career. I think 300 00:14:47,646 --> 00:14:49,406 Speaker 1: he's taking all the right steps, and it's clear that 301 00:14:49,446 --> 00:14:51,406 Speaker 1: he has a lot of good people around him as well. 302 00:14:52,046 --> 00:14:53,086 Speaker 3: So I love this. 303 00:14:53,966 --> 00:14:57,086 Speaker 2: I love learning all the stuff about you. I had 304 00:14:57,286 --> 00:15:02,886 Speaker 2: no idea that is so cool. Yeah, yeah, well, I 305 00:15:02,926 --> 00:15:05,606 Speaker 2: think we all do in this business, right. And I 306 00:15:05,646 --> 00:15:10,166 Speaker 2: remember working locally in San Francisco and interviewing Frank Shamrock, 307 00:15:10,286 --> 00:15:14,326 Speaker 2: not Ken Shamrock, but Frank Shamrock, his brother. And it 308 00:15:14,486 --> 00:15:20,486 Speaker 2: was in MMA's infancy and about the octagon, and there 309 00:15:20,606 --> 00:15:26,286 Speaker 2: were articles in Sports Illustrate talking about it being this 310 00:15:26,566 --> 00:15:31,366 Speaker 2: horrible blood sport and to see where it's become, you know, 311 00:15:31,406 --> 00:15:34,326 Speaker 2: and how big it is in the following, you can't 312 00:15:34,366 --> 00:15:36,766 Speaker 2: deny it. I mean people like it. I mean there 313 00:15:36,806 --> 00:15:39,566 Speaker 2: was a time where boxing was everything, and I felt 314 00:15:39,606 --> 00:15:43,846 Speaker 2: like then boxing took a back seat to MMA. 315 00:15:45,286 --> 00:15:45,846 Speaker 3: I mean I was. 316 00:15:46,126 --> 00:15:50,086 Speaker 1: I went to more Att's American top team like training 317 00:15:50,646 --> 00:15:53,966 Speaker 1: facilities than I can count all over South Florida, Like 318 00:15:54,086 --> 00:15:56,526 Speaker 1: that's it's so huge in South Florida. And of course 319 00:15:56,566 --> 00:15:59,646 Speaker 1: the international guys coming from Brazil, coming from Latin America, 320 00:16:00,286 --> 00:16:03,166 Speaker 1: it's huge. So I think the set of skills will 321 00:16:03,246 --> 00:16:07,126 Speaker 1: only will only help for sure. I'm I'm excited for him. 322 00:16:07,166 --> 00:16:09,326 Speaker 1: Nothing but vibes Fortua. 323 00:16:09,526 --> 00:16:13,566 Speaker 2: Yeah, positive vibes at Tua man, which is a great 324 00:16:14,286 --> 00:16:15,846 Speaker 2: to twitter and to love that. 325 00:16:16,686 --> 00:16:16,886 Speaker 1: Uh. 326 00:16:16,926 --> 00:16:19,286 Speaker 2: You know what else we love is guests. And we 327 00:16:19,406 --> 00:16:23,286 Speaker 2: actually have a guess that we know extremely well because 328 00:16:23,686 --> 00:16:26,566 Speaker 2: we work with him. Actually you work with him more 329 00:16:26,606 --> 00:16:29,446 Speaker 2: than I do because he's there in studio. So this 330 00:16:29,526 --> 00:16:31,606 Speaker 2: is gonna be great. We're gonna have Bucky Brooks on 331 00:16:32,246 --> 00:16:36,206 Speaker 2: breaking down some of the prospects. Yeah, yeah, some of 332 00:16:36,046 --> 00:16:40,526 Speaker 2: the prospects that that we're interested in seeing, uh and 333 00:16:40,526 --> 00:16:43,486 Speaker 2: and what impact they could bring and and you know 334 00:16:43,526 --> 00:16:46,326 Speaker 2: we always say it when we see something, say yes 335 00:16:46,606 --> 00:16:50,566 Speaker 2: the Latino, Amira Latino. Well that's what we're gonna do here. 336 00:16:50,726 --> 00:16:52,326 Speaker 2: We're gonna go through. We're gonna talk about some of 337 00:16:52,366 --> 00:16:54,886 Speaker 2: these prospects with Bucky. So stick around for that. That'll 338 00:16:54,926 --> 00:16:55,486 Speaker 2: be a lot of fun. 339 00:17:06,606 --> 00:17:09,926 Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, calm down, Actually, don't calm down, be hype 340 00:17:10,046 --> 00:17:13,686 Speaker 1: because I know, I am. I know because we're joined 341 00:17:13,766 --> 00:17:15,726 Speaker 1: by our very special I mean I I don't even 342 00:17:15,726 --> 00:17:17,406 Speaker 1: think we can call him like U s right because 343 00:17:17,406 --> 00:17:21,246 Speaker 1: like he's here, he's our coworker at about analysts and podcaster. 344 00:17:21,366 --> 00:17:23,526 Speaker 1: The man who does it all has more jobs than 345 00:17:24,046 --> 00:17:27,886 Speaker 1: I had growing up. Bucky Brooks in the breakdown all 346 00:17:28,006 --> 00:17:34,486 Speaker 1: of our draft needs. Nobody watches more film Bucky. Of course, 347 00:17:34,526 --> 00:17:37,126 Speaker 1: we've been focusing in on a lot of the Latino prospects. 348 00:17:37,126 --> 00:17:39,646 Speaker 3: As we were just talking about Dominican Republic. 349 00:17:39,686 --> 00:17:41,726 Speaker 1: Well, and I have a similar experience because my dad 350 00:17:41,766 --> 00:17:45,206 Speaker 1: can't watch a baseball game without specifically pointing out. 351 00:17:45,246 --> 00:17:47,126 Speaker 3: Who the Dominican players are. That's what you do, and 352 00:17:47,166 --> 00:17:48,766 Speaker 3: I'm my dad. We're gonna be here all day. 353 00:17:48,726 --> 00:17:49,286 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a. 354 00:17:49,206 --> 00:17:51,126 Speaker 1: Lot of every guy that comes up to the back, 355 00:17:52,406 --> 00:17:53,806 Speaker 1: I'm like, I got it. So that's what we're doing 356 00:17:53,806 --> 00:17:59,686 Speaker 1: now with our draft prospects. Like like, so let's focus 357 00:17:59,726 --> 00:18:03,326 Speaker 1: in because we know the big ones the Christian Gonzales 358 00:18:03,446 --> 00:18:05,526 Speaker 1: is Jose Amidas, but our there are any guys that 359 00:18:05,566 --> 00:18:08,006 Speaker 1: we have not been focusing on that really need to. 360 00:18:07,926 --> 00:18:08,606 Speaker 3: Be on our radar. 361 00:18:08,886 --> 00:18:11,366 Speaker 5: So I think obviously when we're talking about the draft, 362 00:18:11,926 --> 00:18:13,166 Speaker 5: we always talk about. 363 00:18:12,966 --> 00:18:14,366 Speaker 4: In this play the hits. 364 00:18:14,406 --> 00:18:16,926 Speaker 5: So before we can just fast forward and move from 365 00:18:17,166 --> 00:18:19,846 Speaker 5: Steve Avila and Christians, we need to talk about those 366 00:18:19,846 --> 00:18:22,326 Speaker 5: guys because those guys could be the ones that really 367 00:18:22,366 --> 00:18:25,366 Speaker 5: carry the flag as your early round prospects. And so 368 00:18:25,766 --> 00:18:29,486 Speaker 5: Avila from TCU is outstanding at the point of attack, 369 00:18:29,566 --> 00:18:32,206 Speaker 5: and he has crept in contention of being like a 370 00:18:32,246 --> 00:18:33,686 Speaker 5: really solid first round. 371 00:18:33,446 --> 00:18:34,766 Speaker 4: Pick at TCU. 372 00:18:34,846 --> 00:18:37,686 Speaker 5: When you watch him, Look, he's very solid in all 373 00:18:37,726 --> 00:18:40,766 Speaker 5: aspects in terms of solid position blocker. When you watch him, 374 00:18:40,766 --> 00:18:42,726 Speaker 5: he's quick with his hands, quick with his feet, does 375 00:18:42,766 --> 00:18:45,646 Speaker 5: a really good job of what we call jumping the 376 00:18:45,646 --> 00:18:47,966 Speaker 5: defensive line, I meaning he sets quickly, gets into him 377 00:18:48,006 --> 00:18:50,086 Speaker 5: before they can get going, and he's able to win 378 00:18:50,166 --> 00:18:52,566 Speaker 5: the down. He has a level of versatility where he 379 00:18:52,606 --> 00:18:55,566 Speaker 5: can play multiple spots on that offensive line, and so 380 00:18:55,766 --> 00:18:59,846 Speaker 5: coming out of TCU, he is arguably their highest rated 381 00:18:59,846 --> 00:19:02,526 Speaker 5: prospect outside of Quinton Johnson, and so he has an 382 00:19:02,526 --> 00:19:05,206 Speaker 5: opportunity to be the first off the board for TU 383 00:19:05,406 --> 00:19:07,806 Speaker 5: But he could be a very very solid first round 384 00:19:07,846 --> 00:19:09,646 Speaker 5: fil maybe for the Cowboys. 385 00:19:10,006 --> 00:19:12,086 Speaker 2: Have out for the Cowboys, Bucky. 386 00:19:12,006 --> 00:19:13,966 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure the Cowboys in that fan base 387 00:19:14,006 --> 00:19:18,166 Speaker 5: would be rabid, I mean like like that. That would 388 00:19:18,166 --> 00:19:19,966 Speaker 5: be a great opportunity for him to be able to play. 389 00:19:20,006 --> 00:19:23,206 Speaker 5: And so, look, he's terrific. But then the guy Christian 390 00:19:23,206 --> 00:19:26,086 Speaker 5: Gonzalez will be the first one to ge. And Christian 391 00:19:26,086 --> 00:19:30,326 Speaker 5: Gonzalez coming out of Oregon obviously having the ties. His 392 00:19:30,446 --> 00:19:36,366 Speaker 5: sister is a very acclaimed and accountli Yeah, track and 393 00:19:36,406 --> 00:19:39,926 Speaker 5: field athlete. You then see him though he's tall, he's athletic, 394 00:19:40,126 --> 00:19:43,206 Speaker 5: he has great instincts and awareness. He's a very versatile 395 00:19:43,646 --> 00:19:45,446 Speaker 5: game in terms of being able to play press, he 396 00:19:45,486 --> 00:19:47,926 Speaker 5: can play off. He has great instincts and awareness and 397 00:19:47,966 --> 00:19:51,766 Speaker 5: ball skills and he's a baller. And so because of that, 398 00:19:52,126 --> 00:19:54,246 Speaker 5: you know, we've talked about him being one of the 399 00:19:54,286 --> 00:19:56,766 Speaker 5: guys at the stop of the board, but there's conversation that. 400 00:19:56,726 --> 00:19:58,846 Speaker 4: He could be the first dB to come off the board. 401 00:19:59,086 --> 00:20:01,526 Speaker 5: And so when you think about that, antiy end he 402 00:20:01,526 --> 00:20:03,286 Speaker 5: has an opportunity to carry the flag as well. 403 00:20:04,446 --> 00:20:07,646 Speaker 2: What's what's the best fit for him? Do you think, Bucky? 404 00:20:08,326 --> 00:20:08,806 Speaker 2: What team? 405 00:20:08,886 --> 00:20:12,006 Speaker 5: You know, it's funny because we had a conversation to 406 00:20:12,126 --> 00:20:13,846 Speaker 5: day on the Moon to six podcast, we were talking 407 00:20:13,846 --> 00:20:17,486 Speaker 5: about christ Gonzales potentially going to the Seattle Seahawks, and 408 00:20:18,046 --> 00:20:22,086 Speaker 5: the reason why is because they're sitting at five. They 409 00:20:22,086 --> 00:20:24,326 Speaker 5: have really done a really good job of rebuilding their 410 00:20:24,366 --> 00:20:27,286 Speaker 5: defense and their team. They bring Bobby Wagner back, they 411 00:20:27,326 --> 00:20:32,846 Speaker 5: bring over Devin Bush, Dean Bush, they have Jamal Adams 412 00:20:32,926 --> 00:20:35,366 Speaker 5: dropping down in the box. They signed Jan Reed to 413 00:20:35,446 --> 00:20:39,086 Speaker 5: go and play inside. They have Draymond Jones coming, so 414 00:20:39,166 --> 00:20:41,166 Speaker 5: this team is ready to bob and you're looking at 415 00:20:41,206 --> 00:20:44,526 Speaker 5: the missing piece opposite Tarik Woolan. When they were in 416 00:20:44,526 --> 00:20:46,606 Speaker 5: their glory days, they had two big corners. They had 417 00:20:46,646 --> 00:20:48,726 Speaker 5: Brandon Browner and Rigide Sherman. So now you go get 418 00:20:48,726 --> 00:20:52,086 Speaker 5: another six to two corner to play on that side. 419 00:20:52,366 --> 00:20:54,886 Speaker 5: It certainly makes a lot of sense for them to 420 00:20:54,926 --> 00:20:55,926 Speaker 5: go and get Christal. 421 00:20:55,686 --> 00:20:59,686 Speaker 4: Gonzalez at the time Kant and Nickel. 422 00:20:59,806 --> 00:21:01,606 Speaker 5: Yeah, so they have a lot of versatility and so 423 00:21:01,966 --> 00:21:04,126 Speaker 5: a team that is quietly we didn't think this would 424 00:21:04,126 --> 00:21:06,286 Speaker 5: happen when they lied of Russell Wilson. We thought they 425 00:21:06,326 --> 00:21:09,406 Speaker 5: would take a step back. They've actually gotten better and 426 00:21:09,406 --> 00:21:12,126 Speaker 5: they're now putting themselves back and a chance to make 427 00:21:12,166 --> 00:21:15,566 Speaker 5: a title run if they get Christian Gonzales early. 428 00:21:15,326 --> 00:21:15,846 Speaker 4: In the draft. 429 00:21:15,926 --> 00:21:17,726 Speaker 1: Now we know why Pete Carroll has been taking all 430 00:21:17,726 --> 00:21:20,366 Speaker 1: these selfies right around the facility. 431 00:21:19,846 --> 00:21:20,486 Speaker 3: And a scooter. 432 00:21:20,686 --> 00:21:22,286 Speaker 1: He's even his best life. He's like, you know what, 433 00:21:22,326 --> 00:21:24,886 Speaker 1: you guys can go ahead and overlook us. That's fine 434 00:21:24,966 --> 00:21:27,046 Speaker 1: because right now you're brattling off all these names. 435 00:21:27,126 --> 00:21:29,166 Speaker 3: It's giving legion. 436 00:21:28,806 --> 00:21:30,046 Speaker 4: Of boom too. 437 00:21:30,886 --> 00:21:33,206 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and I love this for Seattle. 438 00:21:35,206 --> 00:21:38,686 Speaker 1: Which of the prospects do you think could really have 439 00:21:38,846 --> 00:21:41,526 Speaker 1: the biggest impact next year, and we have a great group, 440 00:21:41,566 --> 00:21:45,126 Speaker 1: like you said Seebby Bout, Christian Gonzales, of course, Jose Ramirez, 441 00:21:45,646 --> 00:21:49,326 Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez Junior, Nesta Siveda who we had, and Jalen 442 00:21:49,366 --> 00:21:50,686 Speaker 1: Reno Cropper. 443 00:21:51,246 --> 00:21:53,566 Speaker 5: Well normally, look, those first two guys can do it. 444 00:21:53,566 --> 00:21:55,646 Speaker 5: But let's talk about the past version from Eastern Michigan. 445 00:21:55,686 --> 00:21:59,086 Speaker 5: Because when we think about the ability to impact the 446 00:21:59,126 --> 00:22:01,886 Speaker 5: game is creating turnovers. And the easiest way to create 447 00:22:01,926 --> 00:22:04,806 Speaker 5: turnovers on defense is to be the knocked quarterback down, 448 00:22:05,166 --> 00:22:07,646 Speaker 5: to force him to throw under the rest, to hit 449 00:22:07,726 --> 00:22:10,086 Speaker 5: him and knock the ball loose, or to. 450 00:22:10,006 --> 00:22:13,326 Speaker 4: Just create disruption that disrupts the flow of the game. 451 00:22:13,366 --> 00:22:14,966 Speaker 5: And so when you think about Ramires and how he 452 00:22:15,006 --> 00:22:18,806 Speaker 5: plays high motor player, electric off the edge NonStop. When 453 00:22:18,806 --> 00:22:22,646 Speaker 5: it comes to his ability, like those guys wear people 454 00:22:22,686 --> 00:22:25,406 Speaker 5: out over time, and so over time, he's going to 455 00:22:25,446 --> 00:22:26,886 Speaker 5: be a guy there's gonna be a thorn in the 456 00:22:26,886 --> 00:22:29,526 Speaker 5: side of offenses, and so he has an opportunity to 457 00:22:29,526 --> 00:22:32,646 Speaker 5: have a very significant impact even though he'll be drafted 458 00:22:32,726 --> 00:22:34,286 Speaker 5: later than those other guys. 459 00:22:35,126 --> 00:22:38,446 Speaker 2: What do you make of Chris Rodriguez? He I believe 460 00:22:38,646 --> 00:22:42,366 Speaker 2: is the second leading rusher in school history. He's a 461 00:22:42,486 --> 00:22:46,006 Speaker 2: bulldozer when he's out there with the ball in his hands. 462 00:22:47,526 --> 00:22:50,446 Speaker 2: Where do you think he makes the most sense? And 463 00:22:50,526 --> 00:22:54,166 Speaker 2: I guess the the bigger conversation goes to the value 464 00:22:54,166 --> 00:22:57,206 Speaker 2: of running backs, which has been a topic of conversation 465 00:22:57,286 --> 00:23:00,246 Speaker 2: that they've been devalued. White take one in the first round, 466 00:23:00,286 --> 00:23:06,286 Speaker 2: although I think Jonn Robinson is an absolute stud. But yeah, 467 00:23:06,326 --> 00:23:09,206 Speaker 2: exactly so, how does a guy like Chris Rodriguez fit in? 468 00:23:09,886 --> 00:23:12,926 Speaker 5: So it's really difficult because the devaluation of the running 469 00:23:12,966 --> 00:23:16,526 Speaker 5: back is real and it's significant. It has impacted the 470 00:23:16,526 --> 00:23:18,646 Speaker 5: way that people view it. A lot of this can 471 00:23:18,686 --> 00:23:21,326 Speaker 5: be blamed on Mike Shanahan and the system and what 472 00:23:21,366 --> 00:23:24,886 Speaker 5: people saw them do without marquee names in terms of 473 00:23:24,926 --> 00:23:27,926 Speaker 5: churning out one thousand yard seasons, and so because of that, 474 00:23:28,366 --> 00:23:31,566 Speaker 5: everyone believes that they can find a running back day two, 475 00:23:31,686 --> 00:23:34,486 Speaker 5: day three, And so when you think about supplying demand 476 00:23:34,806 --> 00:23:37,166 Speaker 5: this year, unforcing, there's a ton of running backs that 477 00:23:37,246 --> 00:23:40,686 Speaker 5: can play, and so we're thinking day three is where 478 00:23:40,846 --> 00:23:42,366 Speaker 5: he will hear his name. 479 00:23:42,246 --> 00:23:45,206 Speaker 4: Call, But who knows where he goes. But there is 480 00:23:45,246 --> 00:23:48,126 Speaker 4: a place in the league for a bangor a big. 481 00:23:47,926 --> 00:23:50,486 Speaker 5: Back that has some physicality and toughness that can do 482 00:23:50,526 --> 00:23:53,046 Speaker 5: all the dirty work between the tackles. It's just a 483 00:23:53,086 --> 00:23:55,566 Speaker 5: matter of where do you value that in today's game, 484 00:23:55,846 --> 00:23:59,126 Speaker 5: Because it's a passing league and people aren't necessarily trying 485 00:23:59,126 --> 00:24:02,126 Speaker 5: to play rock soccer, robot football. Everyone wants to throw 486 00:24:02,166 --> 00:24:06,086 Speaker 5: it and so because of that, it increases his value 487 00:24:06,126 --> 00:24:07,606 Speaker 5: on the board, even though he's a really good player. 488 00:24:07,646 --> 00:24:09,366 Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't want to play that sound until they 489 00:24:09,406 --> 00:24:12,526 Speaker 1: have to write, until there's a position where they need 490 00:24:12,566 --> 00:24:14,446 Speaker 1: to run it. Then suddenly that's all we can talk about, 491 00:24:14,486 --> 00:24:17,166 Speaker 1: is establishing the run game and being more physical. What 492 00:24:17,206 --> 00:24:19,806 Speaker 1: I love about Bucky is he can just rattle stuff off, 493 00:24:19,966 --> 00:24:22,486 Speaker 1: and it's because no one prepares like this man, Bucky. 494 00:24:22,846 --> 00:24:25,966 Speaker 3: How much tape do you actually watch in a year 495 00:24:26,006 --> 00:24:28,766 Speaker 3: and how far out do you start before that? 496 00:24:28,886 --> 00:24:30,806 Speaker 2: Excellent questions, Yes, excellent. 497 00:24:31,846 --> 00:24:34,646 Speaker 5: So a lot of it is like I live in 498 00:24:34,646 --> 00:24:36,406 Speaker 5: all these worlds, right, So I live in the high 499 00:24:36,406 --> 00:24:38,526 Speaker 5: school world because of coaching and because of doing a 500 00:24:38,526 --> 00:24:40,926 Speaker 5: bunch of stuff with Nike. So you see a lot 501 00:24:40,966 --> 00:24:42,966 Speaker 5: of these guys early, so you hear the names when 502 00:24:43,006 --> 00:24:43,686 Speaker 5: they're in high school. 503 00:24:43,726 --> 00:24:46,046 Speaker 4: You begin develop relationships and those things. 504 00:24:46,086 --> 00:24:48,646 Speaker 5: And then being a football jackie, a fan, you watch 505 00:24:48,686 --> 00:24:53,806 Speaker 5: all these football games on Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday. I mean 506 00:24:53,806 --> 00:24:56,006 Speaker 5: you're watching, You're watching, You're watching all these college games, 507 00:24:56,046 --> 00:24:57,686 Speaker 5: and so you begin to hear the names and then 508 00:24:57,726 --> 00:24:59,886 Speaker 5: when it's time to turn the page to really study them, 509 00:25:00,206 --> 00:25:04,326 Speaker 5: I mean you start your process heavily December January because 510 00:25:04,326 --> 00:25:06,326 Speaker 5: youre getting ready for the Senior Bowl in the East 511 00:25:06,326 --> 00:25:09,086 Speaker 5: West Rine and those things. And then as the combine comes, 512 00:25:09,126 --> 00:25:11,286 Speaker 5: you dig into it a little more. And now we're 513 00:25:11,286 --> 00:25:13,766 Speaker 5: on we got paths of the draft. We jumping on 514 00:25:13,806 --> 00:25:15,966 Speaker 5: total access. You do Good Morning Football. Like there are 515 00:25:15,966 --> 00:25:17,286 Speaker 5: a bunch of different things, so you have to talk 516 00:25:17,286 --> 00:25:20,286 Speaker 5: about them so you're always aware. But the tape studying 517 00:25:20,326 --> 00:25:22,086 Speaker 5: really starts at the end of the college season. 518 00:25:23,406 --> 00:25:27,566 Speaker 2: Well listen, Bucky, I mean you are all over it. Obviously, 519 00:25:27,686 --> 00:25:30,166 Speaker 2: you played in the league, so you know what it 520 00:25:30,246 --> 00:25:33,126 Speaker 2: takes to get to that level. You're there in the 521 00:25:33,206 --> 00:25:35,766 Speaker 2: high school level, and you see a lot of these players. 522 00:25:36,086 --> 00:25:42,686 Speaker 2: Bryce Young was a stud in southern California, was in Pasadena. 523 00:25:42,966 --> 00:25:45,886 Speaker 2: From Pasadena. But then start at Modern Day, which is 524 00:25:46,046 --> 00:25:49,966 Speaker 2: a powerhouse here, not only in southern California, California. But 525 00:25:50,326 --> 00:25:56,086 Speaker 2: in the US, were there any any signs or whispers 526 00:25:56,086 --> 00:25:59,086 Speaker 2: that you were hearing about this guy and you thought, wow, 527 00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:01,286 Speaker 2: this guy is going to go far. I mean, can 528 00:26:01,326 --> 00:26:05,886 Speaker 2: you tell that early what a guy can do and 529 00:26:06,246 --> 00:26:07,246 Speaker 2: how far he can go? 530 00:26:07,606 --> 00:26:09,446 Speaker 5: Okay, So this is interesting because I always have to 531 00:26:09,486 --> 00:26:12,326 Speaker 5: keep these guys linked together. So Bryce Young and c J. 532 00:26:12,446 --> 00:26:16,286 Speaker 5: Stroud are both LA guys. So CJ from Rancho Cucamonga. 533 00:26:16,366 --> 00:26:19,086 Speaker 5: Bryce Young is originally from Pasadena but played at Modern 534 00:26:19,126 --> 00:26:22,046 Speaker 5: Day and so Bryce Young was the bigger name coming 535 00:26:22,086 --> 00:26:25,766 Speaker 5: out throughout because he's playing at a marquee program. He's 536 00:26:25,806 --> 00:26:28,286 Speaker 5: playing at Modern Day. Moder Day has national tension and 537 00:26:28,286 --> 00:26:30,926 Speaker 5: the claim. I think they won two national titles while 538 00:26:30,966 --> 00:26:33,806 Speaker 5: he was the starting quarterback. The funny thing is he 539 00:26:33,966 --> 00:26:35,406 Speaker 5: started at a school in. 540 00:26:35,446 --> 00:26:37,166 Speaker 4: La called Cathedral High School. 541 00:26:37,486 --> 00:26:41,326 Speaker 5: Bryce Young was a freshman quarterback who they had a 542 00:26:41,406 --> 00:26:44,086 Speaker 5: senior at the time that he entered school, and so 543 00:26:44,486 --> 00:26:48,326 Speaker 5: they were alternate quarters with Bryce Young and the senior. 544 00:26:48,606 --> 00:26:51,206 Speaker 5: So the senior, if you can imagine, this would start 545 00:26:51,486 --> 00:26:54,606 Speaker 5: the first quarter and the third quarter. Bryce Young would 546 00:26:54,606 --> 00:26:59,326 Speaker 5: play the second quarter and the fourth quarter. On the surface, 547 00:26:59,726 --> 00:27:02,166 Speaker 5: that would appear to be a big deal. But the 548 00:27:02,166 --> 00:27:06,126 Speaker 5: fact that you have a freshman closing out games speaks 549 00:27:06,166 --> 00:27:09,646 Speaker 5: to how he was as a ninth grader and then 550 00:27:09,686 --> 00:27:12,606 Speaker 5: he goes to mad to day and becomes all everything. 551 00:27:12,886 --> 00:27:15,046 Speaker 5: And so he is a guy who has been well 552 00:27:15,126 --> 00:27:17,806 Speaker 5: prepared to be in the situation that he's about to 553 00:27:17,806 --> 00:27:19,926 Speaker 5: embark upon in terms of being the face of the 554 00:27:19,926 --> 00:27:22,966 Speaker 5: franchise and those things. He goes from mo Today to 555 00:27:23,006 --> 00:27:26,846 Speaker 5: dealing with the machine of Alabama. He wins a Heisman Trophy, 556 00:27:26,926 --> 00:27:29,806 Speaker 5: so he's acquitted himself well as a leader, but he's 557 00:27:29,846 --> 00:27:33,926 Speaker 5: also represented big brands. And so if you're David Tepper 558 00:27:33,966 --> 00:27:36,366 Speaker 5: and the Carolina Panthers and that appears to be who 559 00:27:36,406 --> 00:27:39,006 Speaker 5: they're honing in on, there's a level of comfort and 560 00:27:39,126 --> 00:27:42,486 Speaker 5: knowing that I've seen someone deal on the big stage 561 00:27:42,566 --> 00:27:45,566 Speaker 5: under the bright lights for so long that this is 562 00:27:45,606 --> 00:27:48,286 Speaker 5: not going to be something that overwhelms him as the 563 00:27:48,326 --> 00:27:49,086 Speaker 5: leader of our team. 564 00:27:49,246 --> 00:27:51,606 Speaker 3: Bugget, I do feel like you are more You're a 565 00:27:51,606 --> 00:27:56,166 Speaker 3: little more conservative on your rankings, right, Like. 566 00:27:56,166 --> 00:27:57,686 Speaker 1: You don't go out there just because you want to 567 00:27:57,726 --> 00:28:00,046 Speaker 1: make a splash here putting this guy. And I noticed 568 00:28:00,086 --> 00:28:03,326 Speaker 1: that in your top five QBS most recent edition, Bryce 569 00:28:03,806 --> 00:28:04,606 Speaker 1: did jump up? 570 00:28:04,846 --> 00:28:05,406 Speaker 3: Why was that? 571 00:28:05,646 --> 00:28:07,566 Speaker 5: So we moved him up? And so, like I will 572 00:28:07,646 --> 00:28:09,686 Speaker 5: be honest, this has always been the debate. And so 573 00:28:10,286 --> 00:28:13,526 Speaker 5: my affinity for Bryce Young and CJ. Stroud goes deeper 574 00:28:13,566 --> 00:28:17,046 Speaker 5: than just normal watching. They played for me at a 575 00:28:17,086 --> 00:28:20,646 Speaker 5: Nike event. I had both of those guys on my team. However, 576 00:28:21,206 --> 00:28:25,326 Speaker 5: CJ Stroud won the MVP when we won the championship, 577 00:28:25,646 --> 00:28:27,846 Speaker 5: and so they have always gone back and forth. But 578 00:28:27,966 --> 00:28:30,766 Speaker 5: you would think something that would be a rivalry, they're 579 00:28:30,806 --> 00:28:33,766 Speaker 5: really good friends. And so the thing about it, I've 580 00:28:33,766 --> 00:28:37,286 Speaker 5: compared c J Stroud the debate between c J. Stroud 581 00:28:37,566 --> 00:28:39,886 Speaker 5: and Bryce Young to the debate that you could have 582 00:28:39,966 --> 00:28:43,686 Speaker 5: maybe with the Golden State Warriors Steph Curry and Klay Thompson. 583 00:28:44,246 --> 00:28:47,126 Speaker 5: One is the prototype, the other one is the performer. 584 00:28:47,326 --> 00:28:48,526 Speaker 5: So the prototype is CJ. 585 00:28:48,606 --> 00:28:48,926 Speaker 4: Stroud. 586 00:28:48,966 --> 00:28:52,566 Speaker 5: When you think about size, arm, talent, attributes, all the 587 00:28:52,606 --> 00:28:54,086 Speaker 5: things that you look for at the position for the 588 00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:56,966 Speaker 5: last thirty years, well, c J Stroud checks the box. 589 00:28:57,366 --> 00:28:58,406 Speaker 4: The performer, though. 590 00:28:58,326 --> 00:29:02,406 Speaker 5: Is Bryce Young, undersized, slender frame. But when you watch 591 00:29:02,526 --> 00:29:05,286 Speaker 5: him play, he has always dazzled. And then when you 592 00:29:05,326 --> 00:29:07,846 Speaker 5: go and think about looking for a bad game, you 593 00:29:07,886 --> 00:29:11,406 Speaker 5: can't find one, the consistency that he has displayed as 594 00:29:11,446 --> 00:29:15,046 Speaker 5: a player, you can't deny. And so I'm actually breaking 595 00:29:15,166 --> 00:29:18,406 Speaker 5: one of my rules because normally, and I learned this 596 00:29:18,446 --> 00:29:20,246 Speaker 5: from rond Wolf like having been in Green Bay for 597 00:29:20,366 --> 00:29:24,166 Speaker 5: so long. He said, look, if you start making exceptions, 598 00:29:24,286 --> 00:29:26,926 Speaker 5: you'll have a team full of exceptions. But I'm making 599 00:29:26,966 --> 00:29:30,126 Speaker 5: an exception for Bryce Young because he doesn't have the 600 00:29:30,126 --> 00:29:33,366 Speaker 5: prototypical dimensions, but he's so good that I'm willing to 601 00:29:33,366 --> 00:29:35,766 Speaker 5: bank on it. Because I come from a place where 602 00:29:36,246 --> 00:29:38,446 Speaker 5: when Drew Brees came out, it was my first year scouting. 603 00:29:38,526 --> 00:29:41,566 Speaker 5: Drew Brees was all everything. But Drew Brees, no matter 604 00:29:42,046 --> 00:29:44,126 Speaker 5: what he did, we still gave him a second round 605 00:29:44,166 --> 00:29:46,486 Speaker 5: grade because he didn't check off all the boxes. 606 00:29:46,886 --> 00:29:48,046 Speaker 4: And so it's still. 607 00:29:47,846 --> 00:29:50,526 Speaker 5: Hard for me to shake those norms when it comes 608 00:29:50,566 --> 00:29:51,766 Speaker 5: time to talk about Bryce Young. 609 00:29:51,806 --> 00:29:52,446 Speaker 4: But I'm doing it. 610 00:29:52,686 --> 00:29:54,926 Speaker 5: But look, as much as I love Bryce Young, I 611 00:29:54,926 --> 00:29:56,806 Speaker 5: can just give a glowing reporter about c. J. 612 00:29:56,886 --> 00:29:57,366 Speaker 4: Strouss. 613 00:29:57,446 --> 00:30:00,126 Speaker 5: I believe it's a Rareness's where both guys are really, 614 00:30:00,166 --> 00:30:01,126 Speaker 5: really good and talented. 615 00:30:01,286 --> 00:30:04,006 Speaker 4: I just decided at the end to give Bryce denied. 616 00:30:04,966 --> 00:30:09,446 Speaker 2: Well, let's continue talking about these quarterbacks because you have Stroud, 617 00:30:09,566 --> 00:30:13,246 Speaker 2: and you have Young and then there's Richardson who just 618 00:30:13,486 --> 00:30:17,286 Speaker 2: is dripping oozing talent there, and then you have Will 619 00:30:17,366 --> 00:30:21,646 Speaker 2: Levis who has a rocket for an arm and Levis coincidentally, 620 00:30:21,926 --> 00:30:25,406 Speaker 2: according to one of our NFL Network insiders, is or 621 00:30:25,526 --> 00:30:29,126 Speaker 2: had a visit with the Patriots. Do you see that 622 00:30:29,486 --> 00:30:34,006 Speaker 2: as a place that he could potentially go or is 623 00:30:34,046 --> 00:30:36,566 Speaker 2: it just the Patriots maybe doing their due diligence. 624 00:30:37,166 --> 00:30:38,686 Speaker 5: So there are a couple different things when it comes 625 00:30:38,726 --> 00:30:42,566 Speaker 5: to Will Levis. The Indianapolis Coast interesting him at four 626 00:30:42,686 --> 00:30:46,646 Speaker 5: is significant and real. He possibly could end up jumping CJ. 627 00:30:46,726 --> 00:30:48,966 Speaker 5: Strout as the second quarterback that come off the board, 628 00:30:49,086 --> 00:30:50,966 Speaker 5: even though I don't see him as that kind of players, 629 00:30:50,966 --> 00:30:53,566 Speaker 5: So we have to be prepared for that. The interest 630 00:30:53,566 --> 00:30:56,806 Speaker 5: from the Patriots is also interesting. But some of this 631 00:30:56,966 --> 00:30:58,926 Speaker 5: is also what teams want to do when it comes 632 00:30:58,926 --> 00:31:03,006 Speaker 5: to doing their due diligence. Your job as the decision making, 633 00:31:03,046 --> 00:31:05,486 Speaker 5: the general manager, the head of it is to make 634 00:31:05,486 --> 00:31:07,966 Speaker 5: sure that you have dotted your eyes and cross your 635 00:31:08,006 --> 00:31:10,686 Speaker 5: t's on all the prospects. Because this class is the 636 00:31:10,686 --> 00:31:14,046 Speaker 5: most volatile draft class that we've seen. Who knows what's 637 00:31:14,086 --> 00:31:16,686 Speaker 5: going to happen and who is going to be available 638 00:31:16,806 --> 00:31:17,966 Speaker 5: their scenarios where CJ. 639 00:31:18,006 --> 00:31:20,646 Speaker 4: Stroud could be staring at the Atlanta Falcons at eight. 640 00:31:21,246 --> 00:31:21,806 Speaker 4: You can say that. 641 00:31:21,846 --> 00:31:25,406 Speaker 5: Desmond rid is your franchise quarterback, but then do you 642 00:31:25,806 --> 00:31:26,646 Speaker 5: bypass CJ. 643 00:31:26,726 --> 00:31:28,046 Speaker 4: Stroud to do something else? 644 00:31:28,326 --> 00:31:30,686 Speaker 5: And so with the Patriots, if one of these guys 645 00:31:30,726 --> 00:31:33,126 Speaker 5: are sitting right there at fourteen, you. 646 00:31:33,086 --> 00:31:34,726 Speaker 4: May love mac Jones or not. 647 00:31:35,406 --> 00:31:37,766 Speaker 5: Now you have to at least have the conversation mac 648 00:31:37,846 --> 00:31:40,326 Speaker 5: Jones will levis which one gives us the best chance 649 00:31:40,526 --> 00:31:42,286 Speaker 5: over the next five years to be the team that 650 00:31:42,326 --> 00:31:44,886 Speaker 5: we want. And so you have to have these conversations. 651 00:31:45,046 --> 00:31:47,686 Speaker 5: Whether you pour the trigger or not, it is only 652 00:31:47,846 --> 00:31:49,686 Speaker 5: right for the sake of the franchise that you at 653 00:31:49,766 --> 00:31:52,086 Speaker 5: least bring him in and know everything that you can 654 00:31:52,086 --> 00:31:54,526 Speaker 5: know about him before you make a decision yay or 655 00:31:54,606 --> 00:31:55,846 Speaker 5: nay on whether he could be your pick. 656 00:31:56,726 --> 00:31:58,526 Speaker 1: What I love about the draft is when the panic 657 00:31:58,606 --> 00:32:00,406 Speaker 1: sets in right like all of a sudden, you got 658 00:32:00,406 --> 00:32:03,726 Speaker 1: one to three guys in the same position and everyone's like, wait, ye, no, 659 00:32:03,966 --> 00:32:06,086 Speaker 1: and then there's a run on that position. I don't 660 00:32:06,086 --> 00:32:08,926 Speaker 1: know that that'll happen with the QB position, Like I'm 661 00:32:08,926 --> 00:32:11,966 Speaker 1: sort of of the mindset that five guys going in 662 00:32:12,006 --> 00:32:13,846 Speaker 1: the first round is a little generous. 663 00:32:14,726 --> 00:32:15,686 Speaker 4: It's real generous. 664 00:32:15,726 --> 00:32:18,286 Speaker 5: And let's be honest, because we talked about Will Levs 665 00:32:18,286 --> 00:32:20,846 Speaker 5: and Anthony Richardson, hen and Hooker. I'll play both of 666 00:32:20,846 --> 00:32:23,926 Speaker 5: those guys in the same league. Hennanhincher, Hendon Hooker has 667 00:32:23,966 --> 00:32:26,446 Speaker 5: a tourin ACL. But when you look at the way 668 00:32:26,486 --> 00:32:29,246 Speaker 5: that they played Hendon Hooker over a two year period, 669 00:32:29,486 --> 00:32:33,046 Speaker 5: had better numbers, was more efficient, was more effective in 670 00:32:33,086 --> 00:32:34,166 Speaker 5: the same league. 671 00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:36,086 Speaker 4: And so if we're going. 672 00:32:35,926 --> 00:32:39,366 Speaker 5: To go Google Gaga over Will Levis and Anthony Richardson, 673 00:32:39,526 --> 00:32:42,686 Speaker 5: who have been less productive players, we have to at 674 00:32:42,766 --> 00:32:44,846 Speaker 5: least give Hennon Hooker his flowers. 675 00:32:44,846 --> 00:32:48,166 Speaker 4: And so I am just curious because coming off of last. 676 00:32:48,006 --> 00:32:49,966 Speaker 5: Year, when I felt like, and this is honest, just 677 00:32:50,006 --> 00:32:52,646 Speaker 5: what we do on TV, we played the hits. Everyone 678 00:32:52,686 --> 00:32:55,126 Speaker 5: loves the quarterbacks because your fantasy teams and all of that, 679 00:32:55,326 --> 00:32:57,046 Speaker 5: and so we talked about the quarters. But then when 680 00:32:57,046 --> 00:32:59,406 Speaker 5: it came down to it, Kenny Pickett was the only 681 00:32:59,446 --> 00:33:02,326 Speaker 5: guy to go. So in this year's draft, I just wonder, 682 00:33:02,686 --> 00:33:05,406 Speaker 5: are we going to talk about these quarterbacks talked about 683 00:33:05,606 --> 00:33:08,526 Speaker 5: and then come draft night, we don't hear them come 684 00:33:08,566 --> 00:33:10,726 Speaker 5: off the board in the first round. Who are going 685 00:33:10,766 --> 00:33:13,086 Speaker 5: to be the quarterbacks that slide out of the first round? 686 00:33:13,406 --> 00:33:14,006 Speaker 4: If at all? 687 00:33:14,206 --> 00:33:16,966 Speaker 5: To me, it just seems unlikely that all five quarterbacks 688 00:33:16,966 --> 00:33:19,406 Speaker 5: that we've talked about throughout this are going to be 689 00:33:19,406 --> 00:33:21,446 Speaker 5: first round picks, because I don't know if they all 690 00:33:21,486 --> 00:33:23,166 Speaker 5: grade out as true first round picks. 691 00:33:23,486 --> 00:33:25,766 Speaker 2: Well, do you think Hooker can go to a place 692 00:33:25,966 --> 00:33:26,846 Speaker 2: like the Titans? 693 00:33:28,086 --> 00:33:30,006 Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting because it's in state. 694 00:33:30,206 --> 00:33:32,846 Speaker 5: You're talking about Tennessee volunteer that love, and you're trying 695 00:33:32,886 --> 00:33:33,686 Speaker 5: to fill out the stadium. 696 00:33:33,806 --> 00:33:34,846 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the possibility. 697 00:33:35,006 --> 00:33:38,086 Speaker 5: I think is more likely maybe the Minnesota Vikings at 698 00:33:38,086 --> 00:33:40,966 Speaker 5: twenty three or the New Orleans Saints at the bottom 699 00:33:40,966 --> 00:33:43,766 Speaker 5: of the first round, because those are spots where you 700 00:33:43,846 --> 00:33:46,406 Speaker 5: have someone who has a torn acl he can red shirt, 701 00:33:46,446 --> 00:33:48,406 Speaker 5: he can sit for a year or two without the 702 00:33:48,446 --> 00:33:51,526 Speaker 5: pressure of having to play, because you have established guys 703 00:33:51,526 --> 00:33:54,806 Speaker 5: in the building. I think he's more likely to go 704 00:33:54,926 --> 00:33:57,806 Speaker 5: in the twenties more so than at the top of 705 00:33:57,806 --> 00:33:59,766 Speaker 5: the board, even though if he wasn't hurt, he would 706 00:33:59,766 --> 00:34:00,526 Speaker 5: be in that conversation. 707 00:34:00,766 --> 00:34:02,846 Speaker 1: Can I just put a hypothetical out here and you 708 00:34:02,886 --> 00:34:05,686 Speaker 1: guys may have. Since you analyze every aspect of this 709 00:34:06,806 --> 00:34:08,966 Speaker 1: a team, a lot of people aren't talking about. 710 00:34:08,966 --> 00:34:10,046 Speaker 3: A lot is the Rams. 711 00:34:10,046 --> 00:34:11,926 Speaker 1: Obviously they don't have a first round pick, they haven't 712 00:34:11,926 --> 00:34:15,126 Speaker 1: had one in what feels like an eternity, but they 713 00:34:15,166 --> 00:34:20,326 Speaker 1: are high second round. Matt Stafford there rumors last year 714 00:34:20,566 --> 00:34:24,526 Speaker 1: potentially maybe thinking about retirement. Could you see them maybe 715 00:34:24,566 --> 00:34:26,326 Speaker 1: jumping up for a guy of the future. 716 00:34:26,606 --> 00:34:28,646 Speaker 4: Well, at some point they have to get one. You know. 717 00:34:28,806 --> 00:34:31,006 Speaker 5: A lot of us thought that when Baker Mayfield signed 718 00:34:31,046 --> 00:34:33,926 Speaker 5: there last year, he was kind of setting the table 719 00:34:34,006 --> 00:34:37,766 Speaker 5: for him to be the eventual starter in Matthew Stafford retires, 720 00:34:37,766 --> 00:34:38,686 Speaker 5: he goes to Sampa Bay. 721 00:34:38,766 --> 00:34:41,126 Speaker 4: So now they have a hole at that spot. So, yeah, 722 00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:43,966 Speaker 4: at thirty six, they certainly have to entertain it. Now. 723 00:34:45,046 --> 00:34:48,006 Speaker 4: I know Listen had a T shirt f them picks. 724 00:34:47,966 --> 00:34:51,006 Speaker 5: Right, But now I bet he probably has another shirt 725 00:34:51,046 --> 00:34:54,486 Speaker 5: like please give me those picks, you know. 726 00:34:54,406 --> 00:34:55,726 Speaker 2: But it's on the back of the T shirt. 727 00:34:55,926 --> 00:34:56,766 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 728 00:34:57,646 --> 00:35:00,006 Speaker 5: He needs some picks because they're going to need picks 729 00:35:00,286 --> 00:35:01,806 Speaker 5: to be able to bring this back. So I'm really 730 00:35:01,806 --> 00:35:04,046 Speaker 5: fascinated by the Rams and what they do on Draft night. 731 00:35:04,166 --> 00:35:07,606 Speaker 5: But really I'm fascinated by what Sean McVay does because 732 00:35:08,006 --> 00:35:11,046 Speaker 5: this will require him to be at his best to 733 00:35:11,086 --> 00:35:13,046 Speaker 5: be able to get this team to a competitive level 734 00:35:13,286 --> 00:35:15,606 Speaker 5: with the mass Exodus, the Blue Cha players that we've seen. 735 00:35:15,766 --> 00:35:17,726 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't heard anything about the Malibu House or 736 00:35:17,766 --> 00:35:18,566 Speaker 1: at all. 737 00:35:18,566 --> 00:35:19,206 Speaker 4: This yeas well? 738 00:35:19,246 --> 00:35:20,926 Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't know if he's been 739 00:35:20,966 --> 00:35:23,366 Speaker 5: at I don't even know if they haven't. Don't think 740 00:35:24,366 --> 00:35:24,766 Speaker 5: this year? 741 00:35:25,126 --> 00:35:27,886 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so either. Hey, Bucket, we touched 742 00:35:27,926 --> 00:35:30,846 Speaker 2: upon it earlier in our conversation just about the running 743 00:35:30,846 --> 00:35:35,606 Speaker 2: back position, and Bijon Robinson is unbelievable the career that 744 00:35:35,646 --> 00:35:38,326 Speaker 2: he's had at Texas. It seems like he's just one 745 00:35:38,326 --> 00:35:42,726 Speaker 2: of the top prospects period across the board. We had 746 00:35:42,766 --> 00:35:45,366 Speaker 2: melt Kaiper on Good Morning Football. He said, I have 747 00:35:45,526 --> 00:35:48,646 Speaker 2: no idea where he's going to go. It feels like 748 00:35:48,886 --> 00:35:52,326 Speaker 2: most people have him going to the Eagles, but that 749 00:35:52,366 --> 00:35:55,206 Speaker 2: doesn't seem like that's something that the Eagles ever do 750 00:35:55,406 --> 00:35:58,406 Speaker 2: or Howie Roseman wants to do. So where do you 751 00:35:58,406 --> 00:35:59,926 Speaker 2: see Bijon Robinson going? 752 00:36:02,406 --> 00:36:03,926 Speaker 5: I want to tell him he's probably the third or 753 00:36:03,926 --> 00:36:06,606 Speaker 5: fourth best player in this draft class. Unfortunately, because he 754 00:36:06,606 --> 00:36:09,686 Speaker 5: plays running back, and because the noise has overwhelmed us 755 00:36:09,726 --> 00:36:11,726 Speaker 5: to the point where we don't value running backs, he 756 00:36:11,806 --> 00:36:15,286 Speaker 5: won't go early. I don't anticipate him going early. I 757 00:36:15,326 --> 00:36:19,286 Speaker 5: think the stopping spots for him number eight at Atlanta, 758 00:36:19,966 --> 00:36:24,646 Speaker 5: number ten potentially with Philly, fourteen with the Patriots, and 759 00:36:24,686 --> 00:36:27,126 Speaker 5: then we get into the twenties and the team to 760 00:36:27,166 --> 00:36:29,606 Speaker 5: watch in the twenties, the Charges will be a natural 761 00:36:29,646 --> 00:36:33,606 Speaker 5: fit at twenty one America's team, the Cowboys at twenty 762 00:36:33,646 --> 00:36:38,286 Speaker 5: six with being played, and so somewhere in that wide 763 00:36:38,406 --> 00:36:41,046 Speaker 5: range that's where b Jehn Robinson will hear his name. 764 00:36:41,046 --> 00:36:43,246 Speaker 5: But I'm sure it's difficult for him. He has no 765 00:36:43,326 --> 00:36:44,806 Speaker 5: idea when he's going to go, and I don't know 766 00:36:44,846 --> 00:36:47,406 Speaker 5: if any of us can confidently say, oh, this seems 767 00:36:47,446 --> 00:36:49,326 Speaker 5: like the landing spot for b John Robinson. 768 00:36:49,086 --> 00:36:52,566 Speaker 1: Right, It's always interesting. Last week before we let you go, Bucky, 769 00:36:53,206 --> 00:36:56,806 Speaker 1: when do you sleep? Because you do it all analysts, 770 00:36:57,206 --> 00:37:01,166 Speaker 1: coach podcast hosts jump on all of help us out 771 00:37:01,206 --> 00:37:03,006 Speaker 1: in all of our podcasts, all of our shows. 772 00:37:03,086 --> 00:37:04,486 Speaker 3: I mean how many hours sleep? 773 00:37:05,526 --> 00:37:12,846 Speaker 5: Well, I mean I mean like right after Jeopardy. 774 00:37:11,766 --> 00:37:14,806 Speaker 3: Bucky, thank you so much, such great insight. Always we 775 00:37:14,846 --> 00:37:16,246 Speaker 3: could talk to you for hours, but you know we 776 00:37:16,286 --> 00:37:17,766 Speaker 3: all got a lot of stuff to do. 777 00:37:17,806 --> 00:37:19,846 Speaker 2: We appreciate your time by appreciate you. 778 00:37:19,926 --> 00:37:37,286 Speaker 1: Buck and Huddle is a production of the NFL in 779 00:37:37,326 --> 00:37:41,406 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the 780 00:37:41,486 --> 00:37:45,606 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.