WEBVTT - Impending Doomsday: X-Men (2000)

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<v Speaker 1>Warning! Today's episode contains spoilers for the year 2000's X-Men.

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<v Speaker 1>Formerly a Fox Studios production. Be warned.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't give up on them, Eric.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you have me do, Charles? I've heard these

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<v Speaker 1>arguments before.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Mankind has evolved since then.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Into us. Are you sneaking around in here, Charles?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever are you looking for? I'm looking for hope. I

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<v Speaker 1>will bring you hope, old friend. And I ask only

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<v Speaker 1>one thing in return. Don't get in my way. We

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<v Speaker 1>are the future, Charles.

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<v Speaker 3>Not them.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't look about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello!

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jason Concepcion.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Rosie Knight.

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<v Speaker 1>And welcome back to X-Ray Vision, the podcast where we

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<v Speaker 1>dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and spot culture.

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<v Speaker 1>We're bringing you three episodes a week, plus news this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus news on Saturdays.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, guys, we will be starting today recapping the list

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<v Speaker 3>of 14 films and one movie that Disney released that

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<v Speaker 3>you have to watch. before Doomsday, so you don't have to,

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<v Speaker 3>or so you can, and you can listen along. So

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<v Speaker 3>what we're going to do is we are going to

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<v Speaker 3>give you the hits of what happened in the era

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<v Speaker 3>the movie was released.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did it matter?

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<v Speaker 3>What's a fact you might not know about it? How

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<v Speaker 3>much money did it make? Then, of course, we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to recap it. And then we're going to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>where we think it will fit in to Doomsday and

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<v Speaker 3>why Disney included it on their list.

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<v Speaker 2>But first.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hit you with some facts, some quick facts of X-Men,

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<v Speaker 1>which came out in the year 2000. Rosie, can you

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<v Speaker 1>cast your mind back nearly 30 years to the year 2000? Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember when they were casting this movie. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal at the time. Reading the news and

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<v Speaker 1>the rumors in Wizard Magazine and Entertainment Weekly. Let's start here.

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Danzig as Wolverine.

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<v Speaker 2>That was crazy in 1995.

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Danzig as Wolverine started as a magazine bit in

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<v Speaker 1>Wizard Magazine, January 1995. Casting column proposed him, quote, Wolverine,

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<v Speaker 1>the most unshaven hero in comics, would be brought to

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<v Speaker 1>life by brooding rock star Glenn Danzig. Months later, 20th

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<v Speaker 1>Century Fox was actually courting him for the part with

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<v Speaker 1>the script still unfinished. But this was very early on.

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<v Speaker 1>Bryan Singer had not been hired yet. And honestly, thank

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<v Speaker 1>God we moved in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, not the right choice. But those wizard castings were hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>In 2017, LA Weekly asked Danzig about X-Men and about

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<v Speaker 1>the rumors. And he said, you know, he was asked, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what would it have been like if you were in

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<v Speaker 1>it and not Hugh Jackman as Wolverine? Danzig said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't have been as gay. adding, quote, it was terrible. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Danzig, we're glad we've moved on from Glenn Danzig.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a wild, wild thing to say, like, especially

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<v Speaker 3>for a movie that's pretty straight.

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<v Speaker 2>For an X-Men story, Glenn Danzig.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this was a really wild but fun time to

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<v Speaker 3>be an X-Men fan. I mean, so much happened, Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>before this movie even came out. Oh, yeah, well, then

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't, Glenn wasn't the only.

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<v Speaker 2>One who passed because Joss Whedon also wrote a draft.

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<v Speaker 3>And Fox threw all of it out and then invited

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<v Speaker 3>him to a read through without telling him.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Drama behind the scenes on this movie at every step.

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<v Speaker 3>The writer is shit in the movies was his summary.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>One line survived intact. It's me.

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<v Speaker 3>Prove it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a dick.

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<v Speaker 3>He also owns up to the toad line, which he

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<v Speaker 3>wrote as a throwaway and blames the delivery. Halle Berry

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<v Speaker 3>said she, oh, excuse me.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate this man.

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<v Speaker 3>In the AV club in 2001, only a year later,

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<v Speaker 3>September 15th, September 5th, 2001.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Different time. Uh, he said, Halle Berry said it like

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<v Speaker 2>she was Desdemona.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, do you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>Like the Shakespeare? How about you just leave Halle Berry

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<v Speaker 2>out of this?

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't you blame her for that line.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say that it's me. Prove it. You're a

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<v Speaker 1>dick line, which is when, um, Scott and Jean are

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<v Speaker 1>worried that Logan might be Mystique, which is very funny

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<v Speaker 1>and does read as very great.

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<v Speaker 2>Great delivery and very pre-MCU.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie was a huge hit, surprising hit, and it

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<v Speaker 1>nearly killed Marvel, although Marvel had its own problems. Bill Jemis,

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<v Speaker 1>describing his first six months as Marvel president, said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>We were right in the middle of the release of

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<v Speaker 1>the first X-Men movie, which was the spectacular box office success.

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<v Speaker 1>The movie was for 20-year-olds, and the toys were for 10-year-olds,

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<v Speaker 1>and the toys didn't sell. So we had a movie

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<v Speaker 1>success and a god-awful financial failure, and we were broke. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>can't make payroll broke. The company would go to bankruptcy

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<v Speaker 1>right around that time.

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<v Speaker 3>If you didn't know why that was, guys, it's because

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<v Speaker 3>they licensed the rights for the movies to different studios.

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<v Speaker 3>Because at the time, Marvel was owned by Toy Biz,

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<v Speaker 3>Ike Palmutter and Avi Arad's company. And they thought, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll make money off the toys. But as they said,

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<v Speaker 3>that didn't really work for them. And yeah, this was

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<v Speaker 3>the craziest time at Marvel post the boom. Fox then,

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<v Speaker 3>this is actually something that I think is like another

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<v Speaker 3>really big precast. So they marketed the film. by basically

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<v Speaker 3>running a fake political campaign. Mutantwatch.com played it completely straight,

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<v Speaker 3>invented press stories, polls, books, all of it behind Robert Kelly,

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<v Speaker 3>Senator Robert Kelly. And they recruited visitors into the genetically

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<v Speaker 3>pure patriot brigade where they were asked to email in

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<v Speaker 3>the names of their mutant friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Very bleak.

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<v Speaker 3>240,234 people gave up an address thanks to marketing sherpa

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<v Speaker 3>for that one. I want to say, Everyone gives The

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<v Speaker 3>Dark Knight a lot of credit for that ARG kind

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<v Speaker 3>of Joker marketing, but this was really like one of

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<v Speaker 3>those earliest kind of viral marketing moments on the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Jackman was not the original Wolverine. This is, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>famous lore. He was hired into the movie when it

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<v Speaker 1>was already underway. Doug Ray Scott was cast and was

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<v Speaker 1>playing Wolverine. The movie was shooting, but because Mission Impossible

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<v Speaker 1>2 went over... He couldn't continue in the role. Ian

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<v Speaker 1>McKellen has released his diaries from that period and from

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<v Speaker 1>other periods of his career. And he wrote on November 10th, 1999, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>now we have been filming for four weeks, continuing to

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<v Speaker 1>describe that a new actor has appeared on the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman's qualifications for the

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<v Speaker 1>most feral character of Marvel Comics was a year of

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<v Speaker 1>singing Oh, What a Beautiful Morning. He had just finished

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<v Speaker 1>playing Curly in Trevor Nunn's production of Oklahoma at the

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<v Speaker 1>Royal National Theater, and he got an Oliver nomination for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Grant Morrison's Our Fave and Frank Quietly's New X-Men pitch

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<v Speaker 3>document credits the film with the X-Team's costume change in

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<v Speaker 3>the comics.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie had it almost right.

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<v Speaker 3>Then argues for yellow paneling, if only to avoid the

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<v Speaker 3>dull black leather look of every film superhero, specifying pop art,

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<v Speaker 3>they glow yellow, the kind cyclists and bikers wear to

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<v Speaker 3>be seen. He also wrote that X-Men had become a

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<v Speaker 3>watchword for undiluted geekery before the movie gave us another

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<v Speaker 3>electroshock jolt.

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<v Speaker 2>That it did.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to the recap after this. And we're back. X-Men,

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<v Speaker 1>year 2000. I could not have been more excited for

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. And its opening fulfilled every hope that I had. Poland, 1944.

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<v Speaker 1>It's raining at the concentration camp. People are being sorted

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<v Speaker 1>into groups. Adults separated from children. A boy is separated

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<v Speaker 1>from his parents. He cries out. He's reaching for them, screaming, crying.

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<v Speaker 1>Guards come. They're trying to wrestle him back into his line.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the iron gate separating him from his parents

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<v Speaker 1>starts to like buckle and groan and brah. And the

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<v Speaker 1>guards can't hold him back. But then finally a rifle

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<v Speaker 1>butt to the boy's head knocks him out, makes it

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<v Speaker 1>all stop. And then we get a shot of the

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<v Speaker 1>gate and it's just wrecked. Honestly, to this day, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the best. character introduction in a superhero film.

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<v Speaker 2>Literally, I would totally agree with you, Jason.

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<v Speaker 3>It is something that at the time felt so rooted

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<v Speaker 3>in real history and the horrors of what had happened

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<v Speaker 3>and something that, you know, 26 years later feels horribly

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<v Speaker 3>timely right now. It is stunning and it establishes Magneto

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<v Speaker 3>and his wants and his needs and his, what drives him,

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<v Speaker 3>his trauma and so well and what he has seen

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<v Speaker 3>and what he wants to stop at any cost it

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<v Speaker 3>is just unbelievably fucking cathartic and great as soon as

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<v Speaker 3>I watched it I was just like wow yeah this

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<v Speaker 3>is like that's a sale on how to get someone

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<v Speaker 3>in on a cold open.

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<v Speaker 1>We get Charles Xavier's narration explaining that mutation is the

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<v Speaker 1>key to our evolution and the process is usually very

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<v Speaker 1>slow but that every few hundred millennia there is a

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<v Speaker 1>massive leap forward and we open on on a bedroom

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<v Speaker 1>in Meridian, Mississippi, present day for, so the year 1999,

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<v Speaker 1>a girl, a young girl named Marie is in her

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom with her boyfriend, David. They're getting ready for a

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<v Speaker 1>road trip. She's very excited about it. They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go up to Niagara Falls, the Canadian Rockies, and then

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<v Speaker 1>up from there across Canada, I guess, to Anchorage, Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>and they kiss, and his eyes roll back, he passes out,

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<v Speaker 1>starts to convulse, and she is horrified. We have another

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<v Speaker 1>voice over this scene, the voice of Jean Grey, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that mutations tend to manifest at puberty, often during stressful

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<v Speaker 1>or sometimes exciting situations, and we cut to Jean at

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<v Speaker 1>a Senate hearing, She's testifying against the Mutant Registration Act,

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<v Speaker 1>and Senator Robert Kelly does not believe any of this shit.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, mutants are dangerous. Shouldn't we keep track of them?

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<v Speaker 1>Gene says, we don't need to do that. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>need to treat them like dangerous weapons. Kelly says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we license people to drive. Gene says, yeah, but we

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<v Speaker 1>don't license them to live. Kelly then produces a list

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<v Speaker 1>of identified mutants in the United States, and what they

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<v Speaker 1>can do, including a girl in Illinois who can walk

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<v Speaker 1>through walls, Kitty Pryde.

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<v Speaker 2>Kitty Pryde.

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<v Speaker 1>What if she walks into a bank vault? What if

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<v Speaker 1>she goes to the White House? He says. And he

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<v Speaker 1>adds that there are rumors of mutants who can control

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<v Speaker 1>your mind and make you do what they want. And

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<v Speaker 1>he closes by saying, mutants are real. Mutants are among us.

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<v Speaker 1>We must know who they are. We must know what

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<v Speaker 1>they could do. Who is watching in the gallery? Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Professor Charles Xavier is watching, as is The now grown-up

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Lencher, all grown-up, white-haired, looking great. Immaculate. They look beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>They meet in the corridor afterwards, and they do the

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<v Speaker 1>scene from our cold open in which Charles is basically like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>give the humans a chance. They'll come around. This is

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<v Speaker 1>such a great scene. And this movie, here's my two

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<v Speaker 1>critiques of this movie watching today.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels dated in how Logan focused it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so Wolverine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a different time.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a different time. Wolverine was clearly the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>star of the X-Men. And two, if we did this today,

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<v Speaker 1>they'd be like, let's make it three hours and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about it. We can really give

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<v Speaker 1>everybody their own moment.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do have to say, I want.

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<v Speaker 3>To shout out, I was thinking about this so much

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<v Speaker 3>as I rewatched these, John Wright and Kevin Stitt are

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<v Speaker 3>the editors on this. The editing in this movie is

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable because if you're really thinking about a movie that's

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<v Speaker 3>not three hours, that doesn't have all that time, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not an MC, this is so pre the MCU, that

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<v Speaker 3>hasn't been the slow build in of different characters. This

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<v Speaker 3>opening like 20 minutes of just introducing different mutants and

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<v Speaker 3>where they are with the voiceover, it works so well

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<v Speaker 3>as a exposition download for people who aren't as familiar

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<v Speaker 3>while also kind of just hitting the big beats for

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<v Speaker 3>people who are. It's really smartly done.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. You know, at the time I remember thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish there was more time for everybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>But to your point, it really, really well put together felt. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we go up to Alberta, Canada. There's a cage fighting bar.

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<v Speaker 1>The current house champ at the bar is a guy

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<v Speaker 1>with weird kind of like, I don't know. How would

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<v Speaker 1>we describe Wolverine's hairstyle? I had never seen anything like

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<v Speaker 1>that before. Obviously Star Fox is the only other guy

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<v Speaker 1>that I've never seen look like that.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have, I would, how I would describe it

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<v Speaker 3>to someone, cause this is a podcast and we obviously

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<v Speaker 3>can't show you a picture. It's like if you saw

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<v Speaker 3>like a rockabilly who had the two tubes that were

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like as part of his pompadour, but he

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<v Speaker 3>unrolled them. So each one looked like a devil's horn,

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<v Speaker 3>but they kind of came together like a love heart.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>And I absolutely love that in this movie where they

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<v Speaker 3>make everything so grounded to a point right it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like Tom King lanterns like grim and gritty true detective

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<v Speaker 3>but it is like real world no crazy spandex suits

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<v Speaker 3>where we've got militarized costumes there's a political landscape set

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<v Speaker 3>around our powers it's so funny that the one thing

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<v Speaker 3>they committed to was his hair always had to be

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<v Speaker 3>in that style.

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<v Speaker 2>In the first movie because it really.

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<v Speaker 3>Is no matter what happens to him his hair stays magical.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes Well, Wolverine's just beating the shit out of everybody. Everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>They punch him and their hands break. A guy who

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<v Speaker 1>has apparently been losing a lot of money betting against

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<v Speaker 1>Wolverine all night confronts him and basically accuses him of

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<v Speaker 1>being a mutant. Wolverine pops his adamantium claws at the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's fucking neck.

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<v Speaker 2>Proving it. Proving it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he gets thrown out of the bar at

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<v Speaker 1>shotgun point. He goes to his camper and he finds Rogue.

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<v Speaker 1>Marie hiding out there. They have a brief argument. She

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<v Speaker 1>saved his life during the fight. That's like an important

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<v Speaker 1>thing is like, she basically, the guy, well, the guy

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<v Speaker 1>has a knife. She thinks she saved his life. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, look out.

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<v Speaker 3>So she thinks she has a, like, she's not just

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<v Speaker 3>like stowing away. She's like, Hey, you owe me, you know?

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<v Speaker 3>And that kind of sets up the notion of, of

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<v Speaker 3>their relationship, even though he knows he would have probably survived.

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<v Speaker 1>So he lets her hitch a ride. They talk, About stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>They talk about his dog tags. He tells her that

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<v Speaker 1>his claws hurt his hands every time they come out.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy drop. That changed it. Jason, do the description.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be rogue.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it hurt?

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<v Speaker 1>Every time.

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<v Speaker 3>When they said that in the cinema, like we were

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<v Speaker 3>saying that shit for years after in the playground.

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<v Speaker 1>Crazy. So he introduces himself as Logan and just then

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<v Speaker 1>a tree falls across the highway and Wolverine, Logan goes

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<v Speaker 1>out to investigate. He sniffs the air. He smells something

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<v Speaker 1>really bad and weird. And then he gets like, boom, hit, bang,

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<v Speaker 1>baseball bat style by a tree trunk held by a

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<v Speaker 1>large man dressed caveman style and animal skins and long

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<v Speaker 1>hair and claws of his own. This is Sabretooth. But

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<v Speaker 1>before Sabretooth can like grab Rogue.

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<v Speaker 2>who.

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<v Speaker 1>Is in the camper that is catching fire at this

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<v Speaker 1>very moment. There's like the wind picks up and the

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<v Speaker 1>fog drops and storm and Cyclops are there and Cyclops

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<v Speaker 1>shoots an optic blast, which scares, Sabretooth immediately just chickens out.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Logan wakes up on the exam table at the X

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<v Speaker 1>mansion in Westchester County, New York. And Charles is like, hello.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Logan. Good to see you. I'd like to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>you to my friends. This is Storm. This is Aurora Monroe,

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise known as Storm. This is Scott, otherwise known as Cyclops.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is Jean, who has no codename.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't have a codename. She's not Marvel Girl. She's not,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she's not. We call her Jean. She's just Jean.

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<v Speaker 2>She's just Jean Grey because I'm trying to keep her powers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Logan drops his sick zinger. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, yeah, Logan's like, what are you? Who are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Wheels?

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<v Speaker 1>Which is very funny.

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he grabs Scott by the lapels and is like,

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<v Speaker 1>get out of my way. I love this. moment because

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<v Speaker 1>scott is also like not worried about it he's just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like he looks at the professor like you

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<v Speaker 1>want me to fuck this guy up or no yeah

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<v Speaker 1>xavier lets him go wolverine kind of like is about

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<v Speaker 1>to head for the exits but then xavier stops him

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<v Speaker 1>by saying how long has it been logan 15 years

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<v Speaker 1>no memory no history roaming around from place to place

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<v Speaker 1>place just you know wanting to know the truth about

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<v Speaker 1>yourself charles promises logan let me show you around the

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<v Speaker 1>school And then give us 48 hours to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>why Magneto wants you. And then I will help you

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<v Speaker 1>find out about your past. Let's take the tour. They

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<v Speaker 1>take the tour. He shows them the classrooms where Rogue

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<v Speaker 1>is currently turning Bobby Drake straight.

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<v Speaker 2>That's her power, the power of Anna Paquin. What can

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<v Speaker 2>you do? What can you do?

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<v Speaker 1>They go to the Blackbird hangar. He shows them the hangar.

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<v Speaker 1>They go to the fucking riding stables.

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<v Speaker 2>Why do they have those?

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<v Speaker 1>They go to Cerebro. All the while, he's giving him

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<v Speaker 1>the history of... Me and my boyfriend. Me and my boyfriend, Magneto.

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<v Speaker 1>He helped me build this place and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We go to Senator Kelly. Senator Kelly is in his helicopter,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's making phone calls. He's whipping votes for the

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<v Speaker 1>Mutant Registration Act. Well, you're a gun registration guy. You

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<v Speaker 1>should be for this, this, and that, and the other. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>his assistant, Henry Gyrick... is watching him from across the

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter and, you know, they make some small talk. Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>looks out the window and he's like, why the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>are we over the open ocean? And boom, he looks back.

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<v Speaker 1>Henry Gyrick is Mystique. Mystique, like, chokes him Who wrote this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a foot fetish?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. No, no, no. Look. Wait, hold on.

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<v Speaker 1>Mystique grabs him with her feet around his neck, holds

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<v Speaker 1>him there, then does like a pat, pat, pat, pat, pat,

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<v Speaker 1>gives him like a one, two, three, four with the

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<v Speaker 1>heels and the face and knocks him out and then

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<v Speaker 1>pilots the helicopter alongside Toad. This was like very feisty.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason, there's a lot of stuff in this movie which,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, is suspect when you watch it as an adult,

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<v Speaker 3>or at least heavily fetishized.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, lots of feet and lots of mystique.

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<v Speaker 3>I will say one thing I do love on re-watching

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<v Speaker 3>these is, despite the inevitable... like crazy fetish and the

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<v Speaker 3>mystique stuff is especially like, whoa, sexy. I love how

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<v Speaker 3>they also like never afraid to make her really scary.

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<v Speaker 3>Like she always has the terrifying yellow eyes. They're like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to have sex with this monster and

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<v Speaker 3>her feet, she's a monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she still looks fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>Her hands, her nails, like her hands are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Like scaled.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Back at the mansion, Logan has begun flirting with

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<v Speaker 1>Jean as she's pressing like, probes to his hairy, muscled

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<v Speaker 1>chest to do an MRI scan on his metal skeleton.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get our first look at his metal skeleton.

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<v Speaker 1>Gene is like, well, he survived this process because he

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<v Speaker 1>has an incredible healing factor. He's basically unkillable. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>he could be any age. We have no idea. He's

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<v Speaker 1>probably older than Professor. We just simply don't know. We

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the Brotherhood base. Kelly is in his

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<v Speaker 1>weird little I don't know, like almost like a Gandalfian

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<v Speaker 1>prison at the hands of Sour Man type thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very old school for sure. He watches Toad eat a bird,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes him pretty sick. Magneto comes over, introduces himself.

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<v Speaker 1>We learn that Henry Garrick has been dead for many

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<v Speaker 1>months now. And Mag gives Kelly his like, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>quick version of his mutant supremacist ideology is like, we're

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<v Speaker 1>better than you. You're insects. You, you know, you've evolved

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<v Speaker 1>into us. And the fact that you think that you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to control us is actually fucking crazy. Come over.

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<v Speaker 1>He like pulls him over in a metal chair, get

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<v Speaker 1>into position so that he can test his weird machine

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<v Speaker 1>on him. And the machine has like two control panels

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<v Speaker 1>that Magneto places his hands on. And that part of it,

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<v Speaker 1>the control panel is, section is like inside two rotating

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<v Speaker 1>wheels cool set piece he goes inside he powers it

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<v Speaker 1>up you can tell it's really taking a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Magneto's power he's like and he powers up the device

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<v Speaker 1>such that it emits this like bubble of white mucousy

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<v Speaker 1>energy that envelops Kelly and we find out what it

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<v Speaker 1>does later back at the school Logan's still fucking with

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<v Speaker 1>Jean just always around her sniffing her finding a reason

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<v Speaker 1>to be around her he's like you know why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you read my memories so she uh she's like okay

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<v Speaker 1>she places her hands on the sides of his head

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<v Speaker 1>and she gets these flashes of bad weapon x stuff

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<v Speaker 1>you know laboratory and bubbling green water and like a

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<v Speaker 1>man with a weird visor She gasps. Almost erotically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. It's very like, I can't believe he's gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Through so much. He's so traumatized.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so tough and vulnerable.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, my God. And just then, Scott is in the doorway.

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<v Speaker 1>And he and Logan, she, Jean is like, I got

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh, sorry, guys. Leave me to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And he and Scott have a little spat about whose

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<v Speaker 1>girl it is and this, that, and the other. That night.

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<v Speaker 1>Logan has a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

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<v Speaker 1>Further images of the lab and the terrible experiments that

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<v Speaker 1>he underwent. He's, like, groaning, gasping, and barking. This cracks

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<v Speaker 1>me up.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, like, Charles Xavier's going around putting fucking mind memory

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<v Speaker 3>blocks on everyone's powers, but he doesn't just watch Jean

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<v Speaker 3>Grey just going into this man's mind when they're having

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<v Speaker 3>a little flirtation.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, come on. This is about to cause a class

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<v Speaker 2>action lawsuit. What is Charles doing?

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<v Speaker 1>What is he doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Rogue hears, I guess, from the hallway, Logan barking and

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<v Speaker 1>shit in his sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>And she's like, better go in there. Yeah, gotta go

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<v Speaker 2>check on him.

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<v Speaker 1>She comes over, like, goes to his, gets on his

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<v Speaker 1>bed and is like, Logan, Logan, wake up. Logan, not realizing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not understanding what's going on and really in

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<v Speaker 1>the grips of this absolutely terrible nightmare, wakes up, pops

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<v Speaker 1>his claws and stabs Rogue clear through the chest.

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Claws coming out of her back. And he's like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my God, help, help, help. Rogue instinctively reaches out, grabs

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<v Speaker 1>his face, steals his healing factor and heals herself. And

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<v Speaker 1>then everybody comes in. They see Rogue with her fucking

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<v Speaker 1>nightie torn off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting on Logan's bed. Logan passed out on the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, I'm so sorry. She's very embarrassed. She runs away. Okay, wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to just stop us here for a second

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<v Speaker 2>because I need to say something.

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<v Speaker 3>If your child was stabbed through the chest at Xavier's

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<v Speaker 3>school for gifted youngsters, you can call X-Ray Vision and

0:24:59.430 --> 0:25:03.250
<v Speaker 3>get fucking help. Jason, how is every child not getting

0:25:03.270 --> 0:25:06.170
<v Speaker 3>pulled out of school after this random hobo is let

0:25:06.300 --> 0:25:06.890
<v Speaker 3>into the school?

0:25:07.140 --> 0:25:08.400
<v Speaker 2>They don't tell the parents, right?

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:11.780
<v Speaker 1>It's very clear that Charles is like, listen, it's almost like,

0:25:11.820 --> 0:25:14.260
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you've ever seen the clip of

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:21.460
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Cormier, who is an MMA fighter, talking to Khabib.

0:25:22.060 --> 0:25:25.660
<v Speaker 1>who is this fighter from Dagestan who is like telling

0:25:25.700 --> 0:25:28.859
<v Speaker 1>Daniel Cormier, your son, if you want your son to

0:25:28.920 --> 0:25:32.020
<v Speaker 1>be high level wrestler, send him two, three years to Dagestan.

0:25:32.060 --> 0:25:35.590
<v Speaker 1>Forget about it. This is like the Charles Xavier program.

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<v Speaker 2>No questions. Sign the NDA. If they come back with

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>no arm, it's fine. Two, three years Dagestan and don't.

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Worry about it.

0:25:49.859 --> 0:25:53.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like three knives through the chest. It's okay.

0:25:53.420 --> 0:25:55.919
<v Speaker 3>They can steal someone else's healing powers. That's why he's

0:25:55.940 --> 0:25:57.070
<v Speaker 3>always picking up orphans.

0:25:57.109 --> 0:25:58.610
<v Speaker 2>This motherfucker's worse than Batman.

0:25:59.150 --> 0:26:03.189
<v Speaker 1>Back at the Brotherhood base, Kelly realizes his body is

0:26:03.270 --> 0:26:08.160
<v Speaker 1>turning into this rubbery, gelatinous material. He presses himself through

0:26:08.200 --> 0:26:11.870
<v Speaker 1>his prison bar's falls into the ocean waters below, and escapes.

0:26:12.430 --> 0:26:15.070
<v Speaker 1>The next day, and Sabretooth.

0:26:14.890 --> 0:26:17.910
<v Speaker 2>Is like, not the smartest guy, by the way, to

0:26:17.930 --> 0:26:19.230
<v Speaker 2>be in charge. Dude, why did they have him as

0:26:19.300 --> 0:26:19.860
<v Speaker 2>the god?

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:20.410
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:26:20.430 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 2>He's useless.

0:26:21.780 --> 0:26:25.020
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So the next day, he washes up on shore

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>in this kind of like jellyfish kind of form, looking

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:33.300
<v Speaker 1>really gross, kids running from him. At the X-Mansion, Mystique,

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<v Speaker 1>disguised as Bobby, sits next to Rogue on a bench

0:26:36.540 --> 0:26:38.660
<v Speaker 1>and is like, God, you know, everybody's really mad at you.

0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 1>You really fucked up. Everybody's talking shit about you. And

0:26:41.540 --> 0:26:44.400
<v Speaker 1>by the way, the professor hates you now. Yeah.

0:26:44.540 --> 0:26:47.139
<v Speaker 3>I want to say Sean Ashmore ate that shit up

0:26:47.220 --> 0:26:49.709
<v Speaker 3>because every single time I watch this, I'm like, how

0:26:49.730 --> 0:26:50.740
<v Speaker 3>could he say this to her?

0:26:50.770 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 2>Why is he saying this to her?

0:26:51.750 --> 0:26:53.150
<v Speaker 3>And I always forget it's Mystique.

0:26:53.450 --> 0:26:56.430
<v Speaker 2>He sells the shit out of that scene. It's really mean.

0:26:56.730 --> 0:26:58.290
<v Speaker 2>And you totally get why she runs away.

0:26:58.690 --> 0:27:03.240
<v Speaker 1>She runs away. Xavier realizes she's gone. He couldn't feel

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.650
<v Speaker 1>like Logan having an, massive nightmare and stabbing her through

0:27:07.670 --> 0:27:10.020
<v Speaker 1>the chest. But he immediately is like, he just kind

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.580
<v Speaker 1>of like looks and he's like, she's gone. And then

0:27:12.619 --> 0:27:16.780
<v Speaker 1>he goes to Cerebro to find her. Logan follows him.

0:27:17.060 --> 0:27:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Xavier admits that, you know, I've been trying to find

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:21.850
<v Speaker 1>Magneto with this thing for months, but I can't because

0:27:21.890 --> 0:27:24.770
<v Speaker 1>Magneto knows how Cerebro works because he helped me build it.

0:27:24.790 --> 0:27:29.149
<v Speaker 1>Logan asks Jean if she's ever used Cerebro and she's like, no,

0:27:29.950 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't have enough control. Charles finds Rogue. She's at

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.179
<v Speaker 1>the train station, which you think they could have just

0:27:34.240 --> 0:27:34.660
<v Speaker 1>gone there.

0:27:34.820 --> 0:27:37.140
<v Speaker 2>Anyway. Don't even get me started.

0:27:37.260 --> 0:27:40.290
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the most obvious place to check first?

0:27:40.310 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>For a child, yes.

0:27:41.940 --> 0:27:44.990
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Logan goes and sits with Rogue on the train.

0:27:45.250 --> 0:27:48.230
<v Speaker 1>They have a heart-to-heart and both apologize to each other

0:27:48.270 --> 0:27:51.869
<v Speaker 1>about everything that happened. She's like, the professor's mad at me.

0:27:51.910 --> 0:27:54.250
<v Speaker 1>He's like, where'd you hear that? Meanwhile, at the same time,

0:27:54.510 --> 0:27:58.170
<v Speaker 1>Mystique is still slithering around the mansion as Bobby. Okay.

0:27:58.660 --> 0:28:01.660
<v Speaker 1>She turns into the professor, gets access to Cerebro, and

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:04.730
<v Speaker 1>puts some kind of weird goo in it and sabotages it.

0:28:06.010 --> 0:28:09.070
<v Speaker 1>Logan tells Rogue, listen, whatever you want to do, I

0:28:09.109 --> 0:28:11.050
<v Speaker 1>support you. If you want to run, go ahead. I

0:28:11.070 --> 0:28:12.350
<v Speaker 1>support you. If you want to stay, I think you

0:28:12.390 --> 0:28:17.109
<v Speaker 1>should stay. And this is really well done because it's

0:28:17.170 --> 0:28:21.230
<v Speaker 1>like we kind of realize before them that actually the

0:28:21.250 --> 0:28:23.250
<v Speaker 1>school is exactly what they need. They need to be

0:28:23.270 --> 0:28:27.940
<v Speaker 1>around people like them. And Logan realizes it in that moment,

0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:29.780
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, you know what? I think you should

0:28:29.820 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>stay there, because I think Charles Xavier is on the

0:28:32.810 --> 0:28:36.050
<v Speaker 1>up and up, and I think you should be around.

0:28:36.150 --> 0:28:39.830
<v Speaker 1>Then the Brotherhood attacks. Sabretooth chokes Storm at the ticket counter.

0:28:40.650 --> 0:28:44.050
<v Speaker 1>Toad steals Cyclops's ruby quartz glasses, with which he cannot

0:28:44.090 --> 0:28:46.910
<v Speaker 1>control his powers, and he blasts the roof off the

0:28:46.950 --> 0:28:47.550
<v Speaker 1>train station.

0:28:47.570 --> 0:28:51.060
<v Speaker 3>Which feels like design flaw. Just, like, make them unstealable.

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:52.900
<v Speaker 3>They should be strapped on.

0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:55.830
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they should be glued to your head, to be honest. Like,

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.690
<v Speaker 2>it's fucking prosthetics. Like, come on, my guy. That's ridiculous.

0:28:58.870 --> 0:29:02.190
<v Speaker 1>But that allows Storm to call down the lightning, frying

0:29:02.230 --> 0:29:10.650
<v Speaker 1>Sabretooth really bad. But he's, like, not hurt that badly. Anyway, meanwhile, Magneto, like,

0:29:11.940 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 1>in an incredible set-piece design of his powers, peels the

0:29:16.240 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 1>train like a banana.

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.570
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, or like a sardine kin just like.

0:29:21.130 --> 0:29:26.150
<v Speaker 1>Flies in, easily discards Logan because his body's full of metal.

0:29:26.170 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>He's like, oh, look at you, fucking tough guy, and

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 1>then just flings him away.

0:29:30.260 --> 0:29:32.360
<v Speaker 3>And they do the little nod to the crucifixion because

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.459
<v Speaker 3>he's in like the Jesus pose and they have him

0:29:34.500 --> 0:29:35.850
<v Speaker 3>kind of thrown through the train.

0:29:36.090 --> 0:29:41.660
<v Speaker 1>Stretching his claws out. And then he like. hits Rogue

0:29:41.700 --> 0:29:44.680
<v Speaker 1>with like a little tranq dart and that's it. Captures her.

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:48.300
<v Speaker 3>Gotta say, again, strategy wise, Magneto, I don't think you're

0:29:48.340 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 3>winning the mutants over by drugging them and doing this.

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:53.479
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I feel like you could convince them just

0:29:53.500 --> 0:29:54.260
<v Speaker 2>with a little talk.

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:55.020
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree.

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 2>Your argument's pretty good.

0:29:56.460 --> 0:29:59.350
<v Speaker 1>He's walking out with Sabertooth and Toad carrying Rogue in

0:29:59.370 --> 0:30:05.170
<v Speaker 1>a bag. But he realizes that there's cops all around now.

0:30:05.250 --> 0:30:09.370
<v Speaker 1>Cops have obviously been called. And he just like easily

0:30:09.390 --> 0:30:14.510
<v Speaker 1>T2 style like fucks them up. Like dropping cars on them,

0:30:14.610 --> 0:30:16.050
<v Speaker 1>ripping their guns out of their hand, the whole thing.

0:30:16.310 --> 0:30:18.890
<v Speaker 2>Doing like bullet, crazy bullet tricks.

0:30:19.090 --> 0:30:22.210
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the whole thing. But before he can go too far,

0:30:22.710 --> 0:30:27.570
<v Speaker 1>Charles takes over Sabretooth and Toad and then grabs Magneto

0:30:27.650 --> 0:30:30.540
<v Speaker 1>with Sabretooth's hand around his neck. And there's like a

0:30:30.580 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>brief negotiation. He's like, you know, he begins to have

0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Toad walk away with Rogue. And then he's like, listen,

0:30:39.980 --> 0:30:42.820
<v Speaker 1>stop this, blah, blah, blah, blah, that same old argument.

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:44.820
<v Speaker 1>But then Magneto's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to shoot

0:30:44.860 --> 0:30:47.120
<v Speaker 1>this fucking cop with this bullet. You can't stop all

0:30:47.140 --> 0:30:49.560
<v Speaker 1>these bullets from hitting the cops.

0:30:50.260 --> 0:30:50.420
<v Speaker 3>So.

0:30:51.340 --> 0:30:53.550
<v Speaker 1>Charles is like, well, I guess I gotta let him go.

0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:54.790
<v Speaker 1>And so he lets them.

0:30:54.770 --> 0:30:56.030
<v Speaker 2>Walk to the helicopter.

0:30:56.750 --> 0:31:01.490
<v Speaker 3>Don't negotiate with terrorists, Charles Xavier, even when they're your boyfriend. Especially,

0:31:02.030 --> 0:31:03.970
<v Speaker 3>that could have gone a different way.

0:31:04.170 --> 0:31:05.270
<v Speaker 2>That was a very soft choice.

0:31:05.310 --> 0:31:06.330
<v Speaker 1>Very soft by Charles.

0:31:06.350 --> 0:31:09.850
<v Speaker 2>Very soft. Too soft, one could argue. Like Magneto.

0:31:10.450 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 1>They fly off in Kelly's helicopter. Kelly makes his way

0:31:14.140 --> 0:31:17.740
<v Speaker 1>to the X-Mansion. Jean examines him and reports that he's

0:31:17.780 --> 0:31:22.370
<v Speaker 1>been mutated somehow. But the mutation is very unstable and

0:31:22.430 --> 0:31:24.010
<v Speaker 1>his cells are breaking down and he's going to die.

0:31:24.610 --> 0:31:27.050
<v Speaker 1>And they realize kind of now what Magneto's plan is.

0:31:27.110 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Kelly has this conversation, quite heartfelt conversation with Storm as

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:32.490
<v Speaker 1>she's tending to him.

0:31:32.500 --> 0:31:33.940
<v Speaker 3>I love this scene on rewatch.

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:37.540
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where he's like, do you hate humans? And she's like, yeah,

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:42.390
<v Speaker 1>sometimes I do. And he's like, why? And she says, well,

0:31:42.430 --> 0:31:45.510
<v Speaker 1>I suppose like I'm afraid of them. And he tells her, well,

0:31:45.590 --> 0:31:47.050
<v Speaker 1>it looks like you're going to have one less person

0:31:47.070 --> 0:31:49.520
<v Speaker 1>to be afraid of. And then he turns to watery goon.

0:31:49.860 --> 0:31:54.100
<v Speaker 3>In like a David Cronenberg-esque horror scene I remember when

0:31:54.160 --> 0:31:56.830
<v Speaker 3>I watched that as like I guess I was 12

0:31:56.830 --> 0:31:59.750
<v Speaker 3>when this movie came out so I really remember that

0:32:00.070 --> 0:32:02.330
<v Speaker 3>scene sticking with me and even when I rewatched it

0:32:02.370 --> 0:32:04.370
<v Speaker 3>this time it goes on for a couple of seconds

0:32:04.450 --> 0:32:06.770
<v Speaker 3>longer than I think the MCU would do it like

0:32:06.810 --> 0:32:10.330
<v Speaker 3>you see his face kind of falling and his mouth

0:32:10.570 --> 0:32:13.630
<v Speaker 3>opening before he pops and Storm just runs out of

0:32:13.690 --> 0:32:16.190
<v Speaker 3>there like Usain Bolt like she's like fuck this shit

0:32:16.230 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 3>and she's just like out So funny.

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.940
<v Speaker 1>Logan kind of figures out the rest. The machine that

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Magneto built runs on Magneto's power, but because it nearly

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.260
<v Speaker 1>killed him, he's going to use Rogue to steal his

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:33.180
<v Speaker 1>power so that she can run it. Real coward shit.

0:32:33.780 --> 0:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Xavier goes back to Cerebro to kind of pinpoint where

0:32:36.260 --> 0:32:40.990
<v Speaker 1>they might be, but of course, whatever Mystique did to Cerebro...

0:32:41.380 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>was very effective and he collapses. So he'll be comatose

0:32:44.700 --> 0:32:45.950
<v Speaker 1>for the active part of the mission.

0:32:46.010 --> 0:32:46.610
<v Speaker 2>Crazy.

0:32:46.870 --> 0:32:48.890
<v Speaker 3>And I just want to say, this is a sequence

0:32:48.910 --> 0:32:51.230
<v Speaker 3>that sums up what I think this movie does really

0:32:51.270 --> 0:32:52.590
<v Speaker 3>well when it comes to efficiency.

0:32:52.610 --> 0:32:54.910
<v Speaker 2>Because you're right, Jason, there's some characters who I wish

0:32:54.930 --> 0:32:55.930
<v Speaker 2>we'd get more time with.

0:32:55.950 --> 0:32:58.540
<v Speaker 3>Yes, for sure. But what they don't waste time with it,

0:32:58.710 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 3>they never have to do like a five minute scene

0:33:01.300 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 3>about how the machine works. It's all done in like

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 3>a couple of sentences. Why did the goo work? Because

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.940
<v Speaker 3>it fucking worked. And Magneto and Mystique are two steps ahead.

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.700
<v Speaker 3>Like the plausible deniability- that they build into the storytelling

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 3>where you just.

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:14.980
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely believe it.

0:33:15.300 --> 0:33:18.030
<v Speaker 3>I was really thinking like, I'm so fucking impressed they

0:33:18.050 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 3>didn't do a, what's the machine? Who made it?

0:33:20.310 --> 0:33:23.210
<v Speaker 2>How does it work? Because that's such a big part

0:33:23.330 --> 0:33:24.770
<v Speaker 2>of storytelling now.

0:33:25.070 --> 0:33:26.610
<v Speaker 3>So it was very fun here to just see them

0:33:26.670 --> 0:33:29.410
<v Speaker 3>believe in the audience and let this kind of, you know,

0:33:29.470 --> 0:33:31.460
<v Speaker 3>it's not really a MacGuffin because they're not chasing it,

0:33:31.530 --> 0:33:33.150
<v Speaker 3>but it's also like, you don't need to know much

0:33:33.210 --> 0:33:35.930
<v Speaker 3>about it. It's just the mutant machine. I thought that

0:33:36.070 --> 0:33:37.010
<v Speaker 3>worked so well.

0:33:37.820 --> 0:33:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Jean fixes Cerebro and then uses it to find Rogue

0:33:41.700 --> 0:33:45.050
<v Speaker 1>and Mag, but of course, it takes a lot out

0:33:45.090 --> 0:33:47.510
<v Speaker 1>of her. We learn that they're at the Statue of

0:33:47.570 --> 0:33:51.190
<v Speaker 1>Liberty where there's a UN summit going on one mile away.

0:33:51.810 --> 0:33:53.810
<v Speaker 1>And so it seems like Magneto's plan is to turn

0:33:54.410 --> 0:33:57.290
<v Speaker 1>all these international dignitaries into mutants.

0:33:57.950 --> 0:33:58.270
<v Speaker 3>Sick.

0:33:58.550 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>The X-Men head to the island for the big showdown.

0:34:01.220 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Magneto has placed the machine all the way at the

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.610
<v Speaker 1>top of the Statue of Liberty. And there are several

0:34:06.710 --> 0:34:10.950
<v Speaker 1>fun fights, including Wolverine versus Mystique, which ends when he

0:34:11.190 --> 0:34:15.610
<v Speaker 1>stabs her in the guts. And Storm frying Toad, delivering

0:34:15.670 --> 0:34:19.469
<v Speaker 1>that line, that Desmodona-ish line in which, you know what

0:34:19.510 --> 0:34:22.589
<v Speaker 1>happens when a frog is struck by lightning? Same thing

0:34:22.630 --> 0:34:25.130
<v Speaker 1>that happens to everything else.

0:34:25.350 --> 0:34:25.690
<v Speaker 2>Sick!

0:34:26.150 --> 0:34:28.290
<v Speaker 1>The X-Men make their way to the top of the statue,

0:34:28.310 --> 0:34:31.050
<v Speaker 1>but then Magneto wraps everybody up in the copper from

0:34:31.110 --> 0:34:32.840
<v Speaker 1>the skin of the statue.

0:34:33.310 --> 0:34:34.410
<v Speaker 2>They should have seen that coming.

0:34:34.630 --> 0:34:37.129
<v Speaker 1>Should have seen that coming. Positions Logan like with his

0:34:37.310 --> 0:34:43.160
<v Speaker 1>claw knuckles pointed at his own chest and positions Scott

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:45.719
<v Speaker 1>looking at Jean without his visor so that if he

0:34:45.780 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 1>opens up his eyes, he'll kill her.

0:34:47.660 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 2>And then- Maggio's so crazy for that one.

0:34:50.739 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>So crazy for that one. And then Aurora can't really

0:34:53.340 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>do anything because it's like a very small room. He

0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:00.980
<v Speaker 1>goes up to the machine. He gets Rogue over there.

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:04.220
<v Speaker 1>They're about to start the whole thing. In desperation, Logan

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:07.640
<v Speaker 1>pops his claws into his own chest, and he should

0:35:07.660 --> 0:35:09.870
<v Speaker 1>have just done this immediately. Takes a second, but he

0:35:09.910 --> 0:35:14.390
<v Speaker 1>does heal up. The X-Men get free by, you know,

0:35:14.450 --> 0:35:19.890
<v Speaker 1>Gene floats Scott's visor in front of his face, and

0:35:19.930 --> 0:35:25.320
<v Speaker 1>then he opens his eyes and manages to knock Sabretooth

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:29.120
<v Speaker 1>out of the way. Logan has a showdown with Sabretooth

0:35:29.180 --> 0:35:32.410
<v Speaker 1>on the top of the of the Statue of Liberty,

0:35:32.430 --> 0:35:33.790
<v Speaker 1>which is pretty cool.

0:35:33.810 --> 0:35:36.910
<v Speaker 3>You can really tell that was like an important comic

0:35:36.950 --> 0:35:38.529
<v Speaker 3>book rivalry for them to build it.

0:35:38.590 --> 0:35:39.009
<v Speaker 1>Huge rivalry.

0:35:39.030 --> 0:35:41.330
<v Speaker 3>Because it's such a big, big part of this movie

0:35:41.450 --> 0:35:44.210
<v Speaker 3>in a way that does not necessarily represent who Sabretooth

0:35:44.250 --> 0:35:45.670
<v Speaker 3>is if you move him away from Wolverine.

0:35:45.730 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>It's really the core of the showdown. Yeah. Magneto steals

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 1>Rogue's power and then puts her in the machine and

0:35:51.360 --> 0:35:54.020
<v Speaker 1>so the machine is spinning up and Magneto is weakened,

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:57.060
<v Speaker 1>but he's not like fully out of it. Logan defeats

0:35:57.800 --> 0:35:59.500
<v Speaker 1>Sabretooth and is like, okay, what do I do? What

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:01.750
<v Speaker 1>do we do? What do we do? They figure it out,

0:36:01.870 --> 0:36:04.470
<v Speaker 1>Storm floats Wolverine up to the machine with Gene steadying him.

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Like a little baby.

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:08.660
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Logan jumps down into the machine and he pops

0:36:08.680 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>his claws and he's going to smash it. But then

0:36:11.100 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 1>Magneto is still in it. He's very weak, but he's

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:17.530
<v Speaker 1>still in it. And so he's holding Logan's claws back

0:36:17.590 --> 0:36:19.969
<v Speaker 1>and Cyclops is like, I can shoot him. And Gene

0:36:19.989 --> 0:36:22.890
<v Speaker 1>is like, no, you'll hit the machine. And Cyclops is like,

0:36:22.910 --> 0:36:25.969
<v Speaker 1>fuck it, I'm taking the shot. Takes the shot, hits Magneto,

0:36:26.050 --> 0:36:29.219
<v Speaker 1>but also the machine breaks into a million pieces.

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:29.550
<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

0:36:30.290 --> 0:36:33.910
<v Speaker 1>The energies of the machine has turned Rogue's hair white,

0:36:33.969 --> 0:36:37.550
<v Speaker 1>which was delightful. Incredible moment in the theater.

0:36:37.950 --> 0:36:39.239
<v Speaker 2>It also works.

0:36:39.820 --> 0:36:42.200
<v Speaker 3>A lot of times, like later on in this franchise,

0:36:42.660 --> 0:36:45.580
<v Speaker 3>they try and give moments like, why is Charles Xavier bald?

0:36:45.620 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't work and it becomes a meme.

0:36:47.900 --> 0:36:50.060
<v Speaker 3>But this works so well because Rogue won at Anna

0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Paquin's Amazing.

0:36:50.820 --> 0:36:56.010
<v Speaker 2>She's coming off an Oscar. And also, it just feels earned.

0:36:56.250 --> 0:36:58.790
<v Speaker 2>She's gone through so much. They were using her powers.

0:36:58.850 --> 0:37:00.470
<v Speaker 2>Now she has the iconic hair. Boom.

0:37:00.820 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Great moment in the theater. Great moment when you rewatch it.

0:37:03.540 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 3>So fun.

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 1>The energy bubble that was like moving towards Ellis Island

0:37:08.500 --> 0:37:12.700
<v Speaker 1>and the UN dignitaries stops, but Rogue is like out

0:37:12.739 --> 0:37:16.060
<v Speaker 1>of it. Maybe she's dead. Who knows? Logan takes her

0:37:16.100 --> 0:37:19.069
<v Speaker 1>glove off and touches her hand to his face and

0:37:19.570 --> 0:37:22.330
<v Speaker 1>lets her steal his powers so that she heals again.

0:37:22.910 --> 0:37:26.350
<v Speaker 1>We flash forward to the mansion now. Logan is like,

0:37:27.150 --> 0:37:29.259
<v Speaker 1>fucking king shit in the mansion.

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.219
<v Speaker 2>Everything went well. Everybody's alive.

0:37:31.239 --> 0:37:34.330
<v Speaker 1>Gene wants to fuck him. Cyclops is impressed.

0:37:34.910 --> 0:37:38.739
<v Speaker 3>Rogue is like, Unfortunately, also wants to fuck him, which

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:40.480
<v Speaker 3>is the unfortunate subtext of.

0:37:40.460 --> 0:37:43.960
<v Speaker 2>This entire movie, thanks to the director.

0:37:44.060 --> 0:37:47.300
<v Speaker 3>There is a moment on the train where they play

0:37:47.500 --> 0:37:50.629
<v Speaker 3>a romantic moment when they catch each other's eyes.

0:37:50.650 --> 0:37:53.049
<v Speaker 2>Like, we know what you were doing. But anyway, it's okay.

0:37:53.070 --> 0:37:55.029
<v Speaker 1>I mean, she goes into his bedroom and gets on

0:37:55.050 --> 0:37:55.830
<v Speaker 1>his bed. Literally.

0:37:55.890 --> 0:37:57.910
<v Speaker 3>Anyway. In her, like, sexy nightgown.

0:37:57.930 --> 0:37:58.390
<v Speaker 1>But anyway.

0:37:58.930 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 2>The good thing is Logan's heart belongs to another, as

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>we know.

0:38:02.300 --> 0:38:07.759
<v Speaker 1>He wants Jean, but he realizes he can't really have her.

0:38:07.780 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>And anyway, Charles told him about Alkali Lake, where he'll

0:38:11.780 --> 0:38:16.680
<v Speaker 1>find some answers. So he's heading there and he leaves. Meanwhile,

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:20.980
<v Speaker 1>in the plastic prison, which houses Magneto now, Charles and

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:25.090
<v Speaker 1>Magneto are in there playing chess. talking about philosophy and

0:38:25.110 --> 0:38:25.770
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff.

0:38:25.810 --> 0:38:28.790
<v Speaker 2>Most toxic situationship these two ever.

0:38:29.070 --> 0:38:31.490
<v Speaker 3>They just like flirt by putting each other in jail

0:38:31.590 --> 0:38:32.810
<v Speaker 3>or in fucking wheelchair.

0:38:32.830 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Like, come on, guys.

0:38:33.700 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>This is so bad. It will get even more toxic

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:36.860
<v Speaker 1>in the second movie.

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:37.460
<v Speaker 2>Correct.

0:38:37.480 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>But let's take a quick break. And when we come back,

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:43.620
<v Speaker 1>we will talk about why do we think this movie

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:45.940
<v Speaker 1>is included in the Doomsday Study list?

0:38:46.880 --> 0:38:47.060
<v Speaker 3>Mm-hmm.

0:39:05.290 --> 0:39:10.040
<v Speaker 1>And we're back. Fun movie. I still love it. It

0:39:10.080 --> 0:39:12.020
<v Speaker 1>moves at such a quick pace.

0:39:12.540 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 3>I loved it on every I you know, this is

0:39:14.739 --> 0:39:18.480
<v Speaker 3>a movie I've rewatched so many times, definitely in the deep,

0:39:19.380 --> 0:39:23.169
<v Speaker 3>deep double figures at this point. So I would say like,

0:39:23.750 --> 0:39:26.370
<v Speaker 3>I definitely have taken a break from it in recent years.

0:39:26.410 --> 0:39:28.510
<v Speaker 3>Like I probably only watch it once a year or something,

0:39:28.530 --> 0:39:30.500
<v Speaker 3>which for me is not that much for a rewatch.

0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:33.839
<v Speaker 3>But I felt like watching it this time, I was

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 3>just really charmed by it. Looked great on the TV,

0:39:37.580 --> 0:39:40.850
<v Speaker 3>super fun, great character work. Like we know that we're

0:39:40.870 --> 0:39:43.069
<v Speaker 3>going to get another X-Men. So maybe that's why I'm

0:39:43.090 --> 0:39:45.930
<v Speaker 3>feeling so nostalgic about this because this Before, when you

0:39:45.969 --> 0:39:47.489
<v Speaker 3>only have one, you critique it a lot.

0:39:47.590 --> 0:39:49.009
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we wanted this. We want to see this.

0:39:49.260 --> 0:39:51.299
<v Speaker 3>Well, now we get this one and we get another one,

0:39:51.340 --> 0:39:53.460
<v Speaker 3>which can give us hope for something different. So we

0:39:53.500 --> 0:39:56.450
<v Speaker 3>just get to enjoy this one. So yeah, it looks great.

0:39:56.469 --> 0:39:58.750
<v Speaker 3>The set pieces are incredible. But you know what really

0:39:58.790 --> 0:40:01.840
<v Speaker 3>stood out to me? It's that character work. The first

0:40:01.950 --> 0:40:05.140
<v Speaker 3>two acts where they build Logan and they build Rogue

0:40:05.180 --> 0:40:07.480
<v Speaker 3>and they build Jean and even just like Rogue getting

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:09.420
<v Speaker 3>a crush on Bobby. By the time you get to

0:40:09.460 --> 0:40:12.380
<v Speaker 3>the set pieces, you just care about the characters so much.

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.020
<v Speaker 3>And the set pieces are amazing, but you really want

0:40:15.060 --> 0:40:17.460
<v Speaker 3>to live in the school and be a part of

0:40:17.500 --> 0:40:20.739
<v Speaker 3>the team. And I think that is the most, that's

0:40:20.760 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 3>the thing that made us want to read the original comics,

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, whether it was the Stanley Jack Kirby stuff

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 3>or the Lemween, Dave Cockrum, like whatever, Chris Claremont, whoever

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 3>it was. you want to be on the team and

0:40:31.900 --> 0:40:33.920
<v Speaker 3>this movie makes you feel that even when they're up

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:38.860
<v Speaker 3>against the most terrifying, scary moments and villains.

0:40:39.550 --> 0:40:44.530
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think it is that is important

0:40:44.570 --> 0:40:49.390
<v Speaker 1>about X-Men that is on this list? Obviously there is

0:40:49.450 --> 0:40:52.890
<v Speaker 1>the fact that, you know, Charles Xavier and Magneto are

0:40:53.010 --> 0:40:55.489
<v Speaker 1>in the trailer. So we understand that they will be there.

0:40:55.510 --> 0:41:00.339
<v Speaker 1>That's the biggest connection, obviously. But anything else besides just like,

0:41:01.210 --> 0:41:02.509
<v Speaker 1>know who these people are.

0:41:03.550 --> 0:41:06.410
<v Speaker 2>I think that it is a big.

0:41:07.450 --> 0:41:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Charles and Magneto are going to be there, so watch

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>this movie. But on re-watching it, I was thinking about.

0:41:12.700 --> 0:41:13.020
<v Speaker 1>And Cyclops.

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:16.180
<v Speaker 2>And Cyclops. We also, you know, we don't... It's a

0:41:16.219 --> 0:41:17.730
<v Speaker 2>Marvel kind of.

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 3>comeback movie you know so we don't know.

0:41:21.200 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>Who else we could see pop up like we.

0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.060
<v Speaker 3>Know that kelsey will be in it he's not in

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.260
<v Speaker 3>this movie you know we could even see halle berry

0:41:27.300 --> 0:41:30.340
<v Speaker 3>it's a multiversal world you never know right but i

0:41:30.460 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 3>actually really think that this is in there to reprime

0:41:34.380 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 3>the audience for the kind of hated and feared mentality

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 3>that the x-men bring and i think we've started to

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.799
<v Speaker 3>get that again in brand new day we've seen it

0:41:44.820 --> 0:41:48.330
<v Speaker 3>with that jean gray I think rewatching this, it's basically

0:41:48.390 --> 0:41:51.410
<v Speaker 3>rewatching the mythos of the X-Men. Understand who these people

0:41:51.550 --> 0:41:53.760
<v Speaker 3>are as a roadmap for where the MCU is going

0:41:53.780 --> 0:41:58.100
<v Speaker 3>to go. And also, I'm assuming that the relationship between

0:41:58.140 --> 0:42:01.240
<v Speaker 3>Magneto and Charles is going to be key to whatever

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 3>happens in Doomsday because they have a very similar mentality

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 3>and relationship to Reed and Doom. So I think they're

0:42:09.540 --> 0:42:11.620
<v Speaker 3>going to echo some stuff there. And I really do

0:42:11.660 --> 0:42:14.339
<v Speaker 3>think it's a primer pick, but I love that it's

0:42:14.380 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 3>the first pick.

0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:18.910
<v Speaker 1>Me too. I agree with you. I think like looking,

0:42:19.590 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 1>it is notable to me that the X3, Dark Phoenix,

0:42:25.980 --> 0:42:28.740
<v Speaker 1>which the last, excuse me, X-Men The Last Stand.

0:42:29.380 --> 0:42:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Or as we call it, X3.

0:42:31.120 --> 0:42:34.180
<v Speaker 1>And also Days of Future Past and any of the

0:42:34.260 --> 0:42:39.430
<v Speaker 1>other X-Men movies are not here. This tells me that

0:42:40.890 --> 0:42:44.620
<v Speaker 1>we're going to be firmly in the world of these

0:42:44.780 --> 0:42:48.779
<v Speaker 1>first X movies, the characters that existed then, the kind

0:42:48.820 --> 0:42:53.820
<v Speaker 1>of more, the tighter circle of X characters. And I

0:42:53.860 --> 0:42:58.540
<v Speaker 1>think I agree with you. I, this leaves me wondering

0:43:01.110 --> 0:43:05.370
<v Speaker 1>if we're going to have an Illuminati and if that Illuminati,

0:43:05.390 --> 0:43:08.770
<v Speaker 1>you know, obviously Charles Xavier in the comics, I should add. Okay.

0:43:08.810 --> 0:43:13.180
<v Speaker 1>So the Illuminati is, in the comics is a collection

0:43:13.219 --> 0:43:14.760
<v Speaker 1>of the most powerful men.

0:43:14.780 --> 0:43:16.220
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:21.170
<v Speaker 1>Male heroes. We got to have the conversation. It's a

0:43:21.690 --> 0:43:27.910
<v Speaker 1>collection of the most powerful male heroes in the 616.

0:43:27.910 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>And so it's Black Panther, T'Challa, Charles Xavier, Tony, Captain

0:43:35.700 --> 0:43:39.850
<v Speaker 1>America is there because of his leadership expertise, but everybody

0:43:39.890 --> 0:43:41.529
<v Speaker 1>kind of is like, this guy's too much of a

0:43:41.550 --> 0:43:44.770
<v Speaker 1>Boy Scout. We don't know if we trust him. Black Bolt,

0:43:45.270 --> 0:43:46.129
<v Speaker 1>who else was on there?

0:43:46.870 --> 0:43:49.950
<v Speaker 3>I think that there's been loads of different teams. The

0:43:50.030 --> 0:43:53.290
<v Speaker 3>original Illuminati, I think Chachala actually might have turned them

0:43:53.330 --> 0:43:55.770
<v Speaker 3>down at first because he was like, I don't know

0:43:55.810 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 3>about this. Sounds kind of sus to me, but I would.

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:03.700
<v Speaker 1>Say that- No, Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Strange, Black Bolt, Namor.

0:44:04.460 --> 0:44:07.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah so it was T'Challa wanted to turn them down

0:44:07.500 --> 0:44:10.910
<v Speaker 3>but we've obviously seen a version of that in Multiverse

0:44:10.930 --> 0:44:13.810
<v Speaker 3>of Madness but it was not as you mentioned it

0:44:13.850 --> 0:44:16.069
<v Speaker 3>was not like a comics accurate version they all got

0:44:16.110 --> 0:44:19.250
<v Speaker 3>killed off so I think it would be really interesting

0:44:19.690 --> 0:44:27.049
<v Speaker 3>to see Charles and Reed potentially have put the starting

0:44:27.670 --> 0:44:29.780
<v Speaker 3>seeds in place when Doom.

0:44:29.570 --> 0:44:32.419
<v Speaker 2>Appears that would make a lot of sense.

0:44:32.380 --> 0:44:37.510
<v Speaker 1>I think that If there is an Illuminati, it's clearly

0:44:37.530 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>not an MCU 616 group. This is an alternate dimensional

0:44:44.580 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 1>group of figures, which might include... I mean, we did

0:44:48.760 --> 0:44:51.050
<v Speaker 1>see Hank McCoy, right, at the end of the Marvels.

0:44:51.180 --> 0:44:55.469
<v Speaker 1>And we know that Kelsey Grammer is in this movie, right?

0:44:55.610 --> 0:44:59.230
<v Speaker 3>And so is Mystique as well. And Mystique from the

0:44:59.290 --> 0:45:02.450
<v Speaker 3>Fox universe. So there is going to be this different...

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.370
<v Speaker 3>universes appearing in our Marvel space.

0:45:06.550 --> 0:45:10.589
<v Speaker 1>So it might be that there is this, already this

0:45:10.750 --> 0:45:14.750
<v Speaker 1>alternate dimensional group that's trying to stop incursions and that

0:45:14.910 --> 0:45:22.610
<v Speaker 1>that group includes Charles Xavier and potentially others, but potentially

0:45:22.670 --> 0:45:24.990
<v Speaker 1>Charles Xavier of this timeline.

0:45:25.530 --> 0:45:27.570
<v Speaker 3>I like that a lot, actually, and I think it

0:45:27.650 --> 0:45:32.360
<v Speaker 3>does make sense that there would maybe be a narrative

0:45:32.380 --> 0:45:35.580
<v Speaker 3>hook like that, especially because isn't the joke amongst all

0:45:35.620 --> 0:45:39.060
<v Speaker 3>of us is like Patrick Stewart's Charles Xavier's always dying.

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:40.260
<v Speaker 2>Dead again, baby.

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 3>But he's also the thread. Like 26 years is enough

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 3>that we grew up with it. And now people our

0:45:45.100 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 3>age as kids grew up with it. You know, like,

0:45:48.040 --> 0:45:52.700
<v Speaker 3>so having Patrick Stewart potentially as that and kind of

0:45:52.780 --> 0:45:53.940
<v Speaker 3>as that connection.

0:45:53.540 --> 0:45:54.540
<v Speaker 2>Would be very clever.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 3>I would be interested to see how many new teams

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.340
<v Speaker 3>they are going to introduce because it does feel to

0:46:01.380 --> 0:46:03.940
<v Speaker 3>me with Battle Worlds, like we could really be getting

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:07.419
<v Speaker 3>a lot of these kind of subgroups. And I mean,

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:12.560
<v Speaker 3>in that case, the team ups would be unbelievable. Jason,

0:46:12.620 --> 0:46:15.860
<v Speaker 3>we know that Magneto and Charles are going to be

0:46:15.880 --> 0:46:18.500
<v Speaker 3>in the movie along with Mystique. We've talked a lot

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:21.060
<v Speaker 3>about our feelings that old Mag and old Charles might

0:46:21.100 --> 0:46:23.569
<v Speaker 3>not last that long. What do you think about Rebecca

0:46:23.610 --> 0:46:27.589
<v Speaker 3>Romain Mystique? Because I feel like she's got legs, potentially.

0:46:28.450 --> 0:46:32.170
<v Speaker 3>I don't... You think it's going to be a Days

0:46:32.250 --> 0:46:35.710
<v Speaker 3>of Future Past opening massacre of the original X-Men?

0:46:36.230 --> 0:46:37.109
<v Speaker 2>How do you see it go?

0:46:37.210 --> 0:46:41.210
<v Speaker 1>I think that is a possibility. But I also think

0:46:41.290 --> 0:46:43.549
<v Speaker 1>on rewatch, you know, it's very interesting to me that

0:46:45.340 --> 0:46:48.419
<v Speaker 1>Eric's kind of ideology from this movie, which is like

0:46:48.500 --> 0:46:51.259
<v Speaker 1>that we are strong and therefore we should win. And

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:59.210
<v Speaker 1>if the weaker, much more populous society, the humans, attack us,

0:46:59.230 --> 0:47:02.150
<v Speaker 1>then we should destroy them. And I almost feel like,

0:47:02.730 --> 0:47:05.830
<v Speaker 1>isn't that exactly what Doom is doing? Which makes me

0:47:05.950 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>wonder if.

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:08.779
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, that's true, actually.

0:47:08.860 --> 0:47:11.580
<v Speaker 1>Which makes me wonder if there isn't some connection between

0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:16.570
<v Speaker 1>Doom and Magneto that is more than... just Magneto dying

0:47:16.610 --> 0:47:18.469
<v Speaker 1>in the first five minutes of the movie.

0:47:18.510 --> 0:47:21.750
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about that because I think in the case

0:47:21.790 --> 0:47:25.190
<v Speaker 3>of Doomsday specifically, you could be onto something very interesting

0:47:25.530 --> 0:47:28.109
<v Speaker 3>because we know that this version of Doom, and we've

0:47:28.140 --> 0:47:29.660
<v Speaker 3>had me complain about it, so I'm going to try

0:47:29.700 --> 0:47:30.380
<v Speaker 3>and be positive.

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:32.580
<v Speaker 2>But what we do know about it is they've.

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:36.460
<v Speaker 3>Decided it seems like during an incursion or because of

0:47:36.500 --> 0:47:39.410
<v Speaker 3>the events of Endgame, I'm assuming it could have been

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:41.730
<v Speaker 3>any of the events. I don't actually think it's all

0:47:41.750 --> 0:47:43.940
<v Speaker 3>going to be tied together. To Captain America, I think

0:47:43.980 --> 0:47:47.380
<v Speaker 3>it's all the Avengers who were involved in moving the

0:47:47.420 --> 0:47:50.740
<v Speaker 3>time stones. That led to Doom losing his family. What

0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.730
<v Speaker 3>is the number one driver of Eric? It's losing his family,

0:47:54.830 --> 0:47:59.370
<v Speaker 3>seeing the horrors of the Holocaust. So Eric and Doom could,

0:47:59.530 --> 0:48:04.520
<v Speaker 3>in that way, find an alignment. Especially would be interesting

0:48:05.100 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 3>if Eric has feelings about mutants versus mutates, which we

0:48:09.600 --> 0:48:10.370
<v Speaker 3>know they kind of are.

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:14.940
<v Speaker 1>That's a good, you know, because here's the thing. I

0:48:14.980 --> 0:48:18.839
<v Speaker 1>think it would be not very effective and also kind

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<v Speaker 1>of not the way Marvel does things to introduce Dr.

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<v Speaker 3>Doom.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just powerful. He appears on the scene. He's beating

0:48:26.810 --> 0:48:29.810
<v Speaker 1>the shit out of everybody. Think about like the way they,

0:48:30.410 --> 0:48:33.900
<v Speaker 1>we got a lot of Thanos's backstory and what turned

0:48:34.060 --> 0:48:37.340
<v Speaker 1>into Thanos and how he became himself. I almost wonder

0:48:37.540 --> 0:48:41.690
<v Speaker 1>if Doom is, watching what happened to the X-Men or

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Magneto is part of the evolution of Doom deciding,

0:48:49.150 --> 0:48:53.610
<v Speaker 1>you know what? Let me just run it. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>take over. None of these heroes... Magneto, in a sense,

0:49:00.219 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 1>was right. The strong should destroy the weak if the

0:49:04.460 --> 0:49:07.720
<v Speaker 1>weak threaten the strong. If I have the power to...

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<v Speaker 1>stop incursions by either destroying worlds or kind of forcing

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<v Speaker 1>them together, then that's what I should do.

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<v Speaker 3>And....

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<v Speaker 1>That's why, you know, I think there has to be, right?

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<v Speaker 1>We have to get some Doom backstory in this movie

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<v Speaker 1>or else it kind of doesn't work. Oh, definitely.

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<v Speaker 2>I think so too.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at the last trailer and how heavy

0:49:29.780 --> 0:49:33.069
<v Speaker 3>on Sue Storm it was, I'm also interested, this is

0:49:33.130 --> 0:49:36.989
<v Speaker 3>kind of connecting again to why this is there. Do

0:49:37.030 --> 0:49:40.279
<v Speaker 3>you think in the world of the Fantastic Four, that

0:49:40.300 --> 0:49:42.450
<v Speaker 3>there are mutants like do you think this is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be right I feel like this is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be something that maybe the rest maybe the rest of

0:49:47.870 --> 0:49:50.770
<v Speaker 3>the universe has a bit more of an understanding and

0:49:50.790 --> 0:49:54.190
<v Speaker 3>an acceptance of I'll be interested to see Jason is

0:49:54.230 --> 0:49:57.689
<v Speaker 3>there anything from this movie on rewatch like a little

0:49:57.730 --> 0:50:00.810
<v Speaker 3>moment or anything where you were like okay I really

0:50:00.830 --> 0:50:02.390
<v Speaker 3>want to see them come back to that or will

0:50:02.410 --> 0:50:04.840
<v Speaker 3>we finally like is Kitty Pryde going to come back

0:50:04.969 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 3>like is this actually we're watching the whole movie thinking

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:10.299
<v Speaker 3>it's a big picture but it's actually a nod to

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<v Speaker 3>this like do you think there's something like that that

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<v Speaker 3>we could get I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll say more when we do our X2 of course

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<v Speaker 1>coverage but the striking thing about both of those this

0:50:21.469 --> 0:50:25.750
<v Speaker 1>movie and X2 is how Logan centric they are which

0:50:26.110 --> 0:50:29.989
<v Speaker 1>makes me feel like this it might be a I

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<v Speaker 1>think you phrased it as a pretty chonky cameo I

0:50:32.930 --> 0:50:36.680
<v Speaker 1>think we may see like a big big blowout last

0:50:36.719 --> 0:50:41.010
<v Speaker 1>hurrah I think so Jackman as Wolverine in this film

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<v Speaker 1>because I think if you knew nothing else except that

0:50:45.260 --> 0:50:48.140
<v Speaker 1>these two films were on the list for prep to

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<v Speaker 1>doomsday one pretty obvious takeaway might be Wolverine will be

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<v Speaker 1>in this because he's like the main character.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the movie actually that's such a good point Jason

0:50:58.590 --> 0:51:01.570
<v Speaker 3>it's kind of the the trees hiding in the leaves

0:51:01.690 --> 0:51:04.650
<v Speaker 3>or whatever because it's like Yeah, we're talking about all

0:51:04.670 --> 0:51:06.910
<v Speaker 3>the other X-Men. We're talking about Charles, talking about Magneto.

0:51:07.170 --> 0:51:09.150
<v Speaker 3>But in the 90s, as we've talked about a million

0:51:09.190 --> 0:51:11.029
<v Speaker 3>times in the lead up to this movie, Wolverine's in

0:51:11.070 --> 0:51:12.969
<v Speaker 3>over 200 comics. It gets to the point where they

0:51:12.989 --> 0:51:13.270
<v Speaker 3>have to.

0:51:13.250 --> 0:51:13.730
<v Speaker 1>Kill him off.

0:51:13.770 --> 0:51:17.450
<v Speaker 2>He's so popular. And actually, you are so right.

0:51:17.610 --> 0:51:19.830
<v Speaker 3>If you really are just watching these movies and you

0:51:19.850 --> 0:51:21.930
<v Speaker 3>don't really know who any of these characters are, you're

0:51:21.950 --> 0:51:23.790
<v Speaker 3>going to be like, well, obviously that guy with the

0:51:23.810 --> 0:51:25.430
<v Speaker 3>brown hair and the claws is going to be in

0:51:25.489 --> 0:51:27.250
<v Speaker 3>it because he's the main character. And I will say,

0:51:27.710 --> 0:51:29.969
<v Speaker 3>at D23, I'm not sure if this was something they

0:51:30.010 --> 0:51:33.430
<v Speaker 3>ended up releasing on YouTube, but I'm sure somebody filmed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Before they showed the new Doomsday trailer, they did a

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:40.879
<v Speaker 3>bit where they had Hugh Jackman in a house kind

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:44.359
<v Speaker 3>of recording and they had Ryan Reynolds off screen like

0:51:44.420 --> 0:51:47.180
<v Speaker 3>he was Deadpool trying to get them both in the movie.

0:51:47.580 --> 0:51:50.600
<v Speaker 3>And Feige didn't say that they would be in the movie.

0:51:50.660 --> 0:51:52.730
<v Speaker 3>In fact, they kind of afterwards were like, you know,

0:51:52.750 --> 0:51:54.750
<v Speaker 3>you're not going to see everyone, guys. Like, sorry.

0:51:54.969 --> 0:51:56.469
<v Speaker 2>But it obviously felt.

0:51:56.290 --> 0:52:00.420
<v Speaker 3>Like a nod to the fact that they haven't acknowledged

0:52:00.500 --> 0:52:02.480
<v Speaker 3>that those guys are not in the movie yet. And

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:04.859
<v Speaker 3>Jackman did a big bit where he was kind of like, oh,

0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:07.459
<v Speaker 3>you know, we didn't get a chair, like da-da-da-da-da.

0:52:07.480 --> 0:52:08.540
<v Speaker 2>So who knows?

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:10.370
<v Speaker 1>He'll be in it. He's definitely in it. He must be.

0:52:10.910 --> 0:52:13.750
<v Speaker 1>Any other, I mean, you know what that makes me

0:52:13.810 --> 0:52:21.569
<v Speaker 1>think of, although this is a Messiah War bit. Let's go. Deadpool,

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:24.900
<v Speaker 1>you know, that whole, we're not going to go into it,

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.580
<v Speaker 1>but part of that is like it's a mission throughout

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:34.669
<v Speaker 1>different time periods streams and they send Deadpool into like

0:52:34.690 --> 0:52:38.430
<v Speaker 1>a thousand years into the future to wait for the

0:52:38.530 --> 0:52:40.910
<v Speaker 1>rest of the team to catch up in normal time.

0:52:40.950 --> 0:52:44.910
<v Speaker 1>And Deadpool's like been in this like vault eating his

0:52:45.030 --> 0:52:50.390
<v Speaker 1>own body because it regenerates for like centuries. And so,

0:52:51.170 --> 0:52:53.570
<v Speaker 1>you know, I do wonder if there's not something of

0:52:53.670 --> 0:52:56.310
<v Speaker 1>that stealing that if Deadpool is in this.

0:52:56.770 --> 0:52:58.170
<v Speaker 2>That's actually really smart.

0:52:58.210 --> 0:53:01.310
<v Speaker 3>Like they can utilize Deadpool. And like when, you know,

0:53:01.350 --> 0:53:03.430
<v Speaker 3>the post credit scene could be like, you, you pop

0:53:03.489 --> 0:53:06.420
<v Speaker 3>open the vault in a bank in the fucking battle worlds.

0:53:06.460 --> 0:53:08.460
<v Speaker 3>And this motherfucker is just still there eating his toe

0:53:08.540 --> 0:53:08.960
<v Speaker 3>or something.

0:53:09.719 --> 0:53:10.800
<v Speaker 2>That's like, what's his plan?

0:53:11.219 --> 0:53:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:13.060
<v Speaker 2>I definitely think they could lean into it.

0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:15.440
<v Speaker 3>I also just need to know the tone of the movie.

0:53:15.760 --> 0:53:18.569
<v Speaker 2>Cause this movie is very serious. Jason X one is

0:53:18.630 --> 0:53:19.450
<v Speaker 2>very serious.

0:53:19.469 --> 0:53:19.629
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:53:19.890 --> 0:53:21.260
<v Speaker 2>It's very melodramatic.

0:53:21.360 --> 0:53:24.020
<v Speaker 3>It very much fits in with what we're seeing of

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 3>doomsday so far, but how does say a dead Paul

0:53:26.380 --> 0:53:29.060
<v Speaker 3>fit into that? Like, does it have to be really bleak? Um,

0:53:29.400 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 3>does he get, you know, his mouth sewn up? Do

0:53:31.620 --> 0:53:33.799
<v Speaker 3>they do some kind of silly riff to the old though?

0:53:33.820 --> 0:53:35.410
<v Speaker 3>I guess you would put extra in, in that case.

0:53:35.730 --> 0:53:37.150
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, but what I do know is I'm

0:53:37.190 --> 0:53:39.990
<v Speaker 3>very excited. And revisiting this was like, wow.

0:53:40.410 --> 0:53:45.270
<v Speaker 1>Any other thoughts about elements from this film that might

0:53:45.469 --> 0:53:47.029
<v Speaker 1>be important to doomsday?

0:53:50.600 --> 0:53:53.080
<v Speaker 3>I think that the thing I really do want to

0:53:53.120 --> 0:53:55.110
<v Speaker 3>see them do, because we haven't got on our Charles

0:53:55.140 --> 0:53:58.990
<v Speaker 3>and Magneto yet, is I hope that whatever happens, something

0:53:59.010 --> 0:54:00.989
<v Speaker 3>that just strikes me throughout this as much as we

0:54:01.030 --> 0:54:03.890
<v Speaker 3>make jokes, you know, they're obviously like so toxic. But

0:54:03.930 --> 0:54:08.109
<v Speaker 3>like that friendship and seeing the way that despite all

0:54:08.150 --> 0:54:10.890
<v Speaker 3>their differences and putting each other in jail and shit,

0:54:11.310 --> 0:54:14.350
<v Speaker 3>them like still being able to have the philosophical conversation

0:54:14.410 --> 0:54:17.950
<v Speaker 3>over chess is, is so important to who they are

0:54:18.030 --> 0:54:20.110
<v Speaker 3>and what they mean to the X-Men.

0:54:20.510 --> 0:54:22.110
<v Speaker 2>I want to see them get that moment.

0:54:22.210 --> 0:54:24.210
<v Speaker 3>I also want to know if our next generation of

0:54:24.350 --> 0:54:26.730
<v Speaker 3>X-Men are going to interact with them or see them.

0:54:27.969 --> 0:54:30.920
<v Speaker 3>That's the stuff I don't know. How many incursions are happening?

0:54:30.960 --> 0:54:33.259
<v Speaker 3>Where are we going to see them? Is the X-Mansion

0:54:33.320 --> 0:54:36.460
<v Speaker 3>getting thrown into somewhere else?

0:54:36.620 --> 0:54:39.500
<v Speaker 2>Also, Jason, Aaron just put a great note in here.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there's a world.

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<v Speaker 3>where part of the reason that this is included is

0:54:44.770 --> 0:54:47.850
<v Speaker 3>because now we have the mutant inhibitor collar technology from

0:54:47.910 --> 0:54:51.250
<v Speaker 3>fucking Peter Parker, that dumbass. Do you think that there's

0:54:51.290 --> 0:54:53.670
<v Speaker 3>a world where they're introducing us to kind of making

0:54:53.750 --> 0:54:57.840
<v Speaker 3>mutant technology, making more mutants, creating a weapon that creates mutants?

0:54:57.860 --> 0:55:00.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you think it could be something like that in Doomsday?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, I will say that the fact that

0:55:04.400 --> 0:55:08.739
<v Speaker 1>it's an X2 weapon Again, not any of the other

0:55:08.940 --> 0:55:15.910
<v Speaker 1>X-Men movies. And these movies are keenly focused on a

0:55:17.050 --> 0:55:22.890
<v Speaker 1>battle of ideologies. I do think when we get Secret

0:55:22.930 --> 0:55:28.340
<v Speaker 1>Wars and Battleworld, one of these areas of the Battleworld,

0:55:28.420 --> 0:55:32.000
<v Speaker 1>like in the comics, is going to be mutants win. Yeah,

0:55:32.120 --> 0:55:35.520
<v Speaker 1>it has to be. Like Magneto rules. Like it's going

0:55:35.540 --> 0:55:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to be House of M type thing.

0:55:37.420 --> 0:55:40.450
<v Speaker 3>And in that way, what this movie could simply be

0:55:40.510 --> 0:55:43.050
<v Speaker 3>here for, aside from the get to know these characters,

0:55:43.590 --> 0:55:48.110
<v Speaker 3>establishing those ideologies again. Hey, if you don't know what

0:55:48.590 --> 0:55:52.170
<v Speaker 3>Magneto's mutant supremacy is, you wouldn't understand why this world matters.

0:55:52.250 --> 0:55:55.009
<v Speaker 3>But now you've watched this movie, you know exactly who

0:55:55.050 --> 0:55:56.950
<v Speaker 3>Magnus is, you know exactly what it looks like, and

0:55:56.989 --> 0:55:58.390
<v Speaker 3>you know why the humans are in chains.

0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:01.640
<v Speaker 2>This is so fun, Jason. I can't believe we get

0:56:01.680 --> 0:56:02.440
<v Speaker 2>to rewatch.

0:56:02.180 --> 0:56:02.580
<v Speaker 3>All of these.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, up next in this series will be X2 from 2003.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode. On the next episode of

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<v Speaker 1>X-Ray Vision, we're giving you the biggest news stories of

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