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Speaker 1: So much happening out there. Nine to eleven, twenty fourth

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Speaker 1: you today. Do not go anywhere. I have not only

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Speaker 1: coming up Brad colea running for governor Minnesota, former UFC fighter,

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Speaker 1: but I also have three blocks for you of an

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Speaker 1: interview I did with Rudy Giuliani about New York, an

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Speaker 1: intimate interview up in New Hampshire at his residence, and

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Speaker 1: it was really very special. He really opened up about

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Speaker 1: New York and how he turned it around. But then

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Speaker 1: I got another interview next week on nine to eleven

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Speaker 1: about the day's events and Emergency Operations Center and all

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Speaker 1: the incredible things that took place that day. Very candid,

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Speaker 1: very intimate interview. It was very special. So right now

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Speaker 1: I want to get right to our first guest, Brad Kohler.

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Speaker 1: He's a UFC fighter, retired, a businessman, author in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Gubernatario candidate Brad how are you, sir.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on the show. David appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great to see you again. You know, you

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Speaker 1: have this incredible story that you shared with us last time.

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Speaker 1: But you're running. You got a crowded field. You know,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota hasn't gone red since two thousand and six. You've

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Speaker 1: got Tim Jazz Hands Waltz running of her third term.

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Speaker 1: They got a war chest. He's got like thirty million

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Speaker 1: dollars in the Democratic Farmer and Laborer's Party right in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: GOP only has like sixty grand on hand. How can

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Speaker 1: you get the NOD and how can you win this

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Speaker 1: race against Tim Walls?

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Speaker 2: Well, take a lot of work first and foremost. And

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Speaker 2: you know I started this really early to get out there,

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Speaker 2: shaking more hands, meeting more friends, Creating the relationships with

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Speaker 2: the minorities and the other ethnic communities is going to

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Speaker 2: be a big help because the people that voted for

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Speaker 2: them before are now behind my campaign. And I believe

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Speaker 2: we're going to have the numbers as well as the money.

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Speaker 2: So we do have the national money coming in as

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Speaker 2: well for my campaign. As far as the GOP goes,

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Speaker 2: they're not fans of Brad Kohler right now. They are

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Speaker 2: really establishment. They're not also a big fan of Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I align mostly with Donald Trump than any other candidate,

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Speaker 2: and I believe we're going to turn this state red. Now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got so many people who want to run.

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Speaker 1: You know, a Scott Jensen lost to Waltz by seven

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Speaker 1: points last time they run again. Kendall Qualls lost to

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Speaker 1: Jensen for the gop NOD last time. You've got Phil Poarris,

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Speaker 1: You've got House speak Elsa to move. But what separates

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Speaker 1: you from them?

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Speaker 2: The difference is, you know, I'm a businessman, so I

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Speaker 2: don't have that safety net that they're used to.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: These are people that live off the government spending and

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Speaker 2: government salaries. They don't understand that, you know, we don't

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Speaker 2: get paid if we miss a day of work. They do.

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Speaker 2: I think that's resonating a lot right now. With all

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Speaker 2: the fraud going on, especially for the DFL house taking

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Speaker 2: eleven days off of work without getting you know, without

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Speaker 2: any pay being deductive from them. I think people are

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Speaker 2: sick of it here in Minnesota. They're you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: not a politician, and I think that's going to go

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Speaker 2: a long way with our constituents here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Tim Wallas wants to call a special session on

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Speaker 1: gun control.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you, do you think that Waltz

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Speaker 1: and his like in the state, this promotion of turning

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Speaker 1: teenage boys into girls and vice versa, and do you

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Speaker 1: think they have any culpability in the mental health aspect

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Speaker 1: relating maybe just not to the trans shooter in the

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Speaker 1: you know, in the annunciation you know school, but is

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Speaker 1: there culpability there?

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Speaker 2: You know, it's very sad and confusing to a lot

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Speaker 2: of people here, But that's all going to come to

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Speaker 2: an end pretty soon once we get this person and

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Speaker 2: poor leadership out of office. Is that this is a

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Speaker 2: straight situation. We have a lunatic that is in office,

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Speaker 2: that is, you know, pushing this agenda, and they have

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Speaker 2: the money to back this, and you know how much

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Speaker 2: of the problems we having not just a sanctuary state,

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Speaker 2: but men and women's sports have got to stop.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And and the kid admitted in his uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: in his writings, you know, they pushed me to become

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Speaker 1: had a lot of hate writing, right, you know, riding

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Speaker 1: through them. And then there's the other question, did these

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Speaker 1: Columbine shooters were on Halseion and zolaf. They were building

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Speaker 1: bombs in their room for a year, where with their parents, right,

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Speaker 1: a lot of blame to go around. Maybe I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you also, you know, so the football team,

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Speaker 1: the Vikings, they have male cheerleaders. No, I'm not against

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Speaker 1: male cheerleaders. I have a very good friend from Panama's

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Speaker 1: male cheerleaders, but they used to excuse me, project some masculinity.

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Speaker 1: They were in support of the women cheerleaders. But now

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Speaker 1: they're just really flamboyant, and isn't it They're just sticking

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Speaker 1: it into the fan's eyes.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of embarrassing for us what's going on here

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Speaker 2: already just in the past years, let alone the Vikings

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Speaker 2: getting on board with this outrageousness of this woken movements. Again,

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Speaker 2: our leadership show is just poor decisions that you know.

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Speaker 2: I believe that once we get an office and have

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Speaker 2: stronger leadership, this is going to come to a screeching halt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would hope so the fans can't

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Speaker 1: be happy with this, you know, really in Minnesota, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's like manly men, you know, and it's like you know,

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Speaker 1: home and nuclear families and religion and you know, a

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Speaker 1: lot of Christianity and others. So all right, tell us

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Speaker 1: what else you got going on.

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Speaker 2: Brad, Well, we're doing very well campaignywise. We've been again

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Speaker 2: establishing with the minority organizations and I think that's going

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Speaker 2: very well. The campaign is strong. We have, like I said,

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Speaker 2: national money coming in, but we can always use more.

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Speaker 2: So you know, my website is Bradcoler dot com. I

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Speaker 2: would love some help if you if you got to.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for Donald Trump's endorsement. That would also help.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe we're going to have an endorsement here

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Speaker 2: in Minnesota. Some of the candidates just don't trust the GOP.

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Speaker 2: They don't feel comfortable with what's going on. We're very

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Speaker 2: divided here as far as grassroots and establishment, and so

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Speaker 2: I believe this is going to grow up primary and

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Speaker 2: I think that's where I'm going to have my advantage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Walt as governor and the legislature blew through

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Speaker 1: the sixteen billion dollar surplus. You guys. Have you know also,

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Speaker 1: you know, historically Minnesota was the only state that Mondale

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Speaker 1: won against Reagan. You know, are there conservatives in Minnesota?

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Speaker 1: Do you see a shift because of the past five

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Speaker 1: years and the punitive policies, the high interest rates, the

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Speaker 1: lack of opportunity, the high crime in Minneapolis? Do you

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Speaker 1: see a conservative shift in the state.

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Speaker 2: We do. I think they're looking for leadership that's going

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Speaker 2: to bring them growth, opportunities and money. Well, one of

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Speaker 2: the things that I had brings to the table is

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Speaker 2: a lot of revenue streams that I will introduce to

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Speaker 2: the state of Minnesota that will not only help the

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Speaker 2: state of Minnesota, but help the country get back on

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Speaker 2: trek as well. I think that we need to be

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Speaker 2: firing in all fifty cylinders and supporting our commander in chief.

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Speaker 2: And once we get in an office there and are

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Speaker 2: in alignment with Donald Trump, I think that it's only

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Speaker 2: going to help the country. We need a leader here

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Speaker 2: that has the capabilities of bringing other revenue streams and

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Speaker 2: I'm the only candidates that can do that.

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Speaker 1: All right, and how about your economic development efforts? We

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Speaker 1: have about a minute and a half. Tell us what

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Speaker 1: you would do to bring businesses back to Minnesota, make

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Speaker 1: them feel safe again.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. First of all, we safety and security. Secondly, we

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Speaker 2: need to open up the minds up north that shows

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Speaker 2: a geothermal scan show anywhere from three point five to

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Speaker 2: four trillion dollars on the ground. We need to build

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Speaker 2: more cities in our rural areas and go to vertical farming.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of things that we can do here

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Speaker 2: to create revenue streams, streams, I'm sorry, including the blockchain

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Speaker 2: investments here. So I think there's a lot we can do.

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Speaker 2: The problem is we need a business person that has

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Speaker 2: that networking and its surrounding himself with better business people

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Speaker 2: that are familiar with this. Politicians don't have those connections,

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Speaker 2: know that vision.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a very interest and I appreciate that. You know,

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Speaker 1: all right, Tell Review is where they can follow you.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important for people to follow you so

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Speaker 1: they know what's going on in Minnesota.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bradcore dot com, b r A D Kohlr dot

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Speaker 2: com is my website. You can foind me on social

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Speaker 2: media as well. Bradcora for Governor of Minnesota. I appreciate

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Speaker 2: your time and thank you for having me on the show.

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Speaker 1: Brad, Thank you so much, and we'll have you back

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Speaker 1: on anything hot breaks, just let me know, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Reach out, Thank you have bless America.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Okay everybody. When I come back, and

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Speaker 1: when we come back, I have a three part interview

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Speaker 1: with the former mayor, the greatest mayor in the history

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Speaker 1: of New York City, Rudy Juliani turned it around. And

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Speaker 1: this interview today was very one on one, heart to

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Speaker 1: heart interview about you know, how he turned around New

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Speaker 1: thirty five years ago, helping him do that, representing developers,

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Speaker 1: you know, home buying opportunities, which is not being produced today.

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Speaker 1: It's all just subsidized housing and rentals, you know, and

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Speaker 3: I was brought up up to hate slavery. Why Why

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Speaker 3: And well, they do absolutely stupid things. How do blacks

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Speaker 1: Crown Heights. Riots, Jews were getting killed in the street,

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Speaker 1: stores were getting burnt down. Racial tensions were at an

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Speaker 1: all time high. Jiuliani let us out of that struggle,

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Speaker 1: turned around New York City and check out Part two.

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Speaker 1: Might sit down with the Greatest Mayor, Rudy Giuliani. I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about your time as mayor. I brought

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Speaker 1: up before that. I wanted to just address the time

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Speaker 1: when you took leadership of New York City. You know,

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Speaker 1: we were in a recession. We had the housing crisis

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Speaker 1: of eighty nine, we had the stock market crash at

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Speaker 1: eighty seven, we had the Peace Dividend. You came into

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Speaker 1: a city with incredible crime rates. Bring in Bill Bratton.

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Speaker 1: You lower crime on the subway thirty five percent in

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Speaker 1: first ten months tell us about broken windows.

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Speaker 3: Well, just to give you a perspective, we had seven

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Speaker 3: to eight times the number of murders per capita in

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Speaker 3: New York the day I took over than today, maybe

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Speaker 3: five times Washington, DC, Chicago, the ones who were addressing

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Speaker 3: So I guess the point that I want to make

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Speaker 3: was at every level the crime numbers were in a

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Speaker 3: different order of magnitude than they are today. So when

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Speaker 3: they can't handle it, it doesn't make me very confident.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you can win a war that's five

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Speaker 3: times bigger than the prior war, why can't you win

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Speaker 3: this one. All you have to do is give up

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Speaker 3: your Marxist, pro criminal, sick, destructive policies and we'll be fine.

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Speaker 3: And all you really have to do is go back

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Speaker 3: and get the attorney generals as force on a Violent

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Speaker 3: Crime Report of nineteen eighty two, written by Governor Thompson

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Speaker 3: and James Q. Wilson. I was the coordinator of that group,

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Speaker 3: And in that document are all the things we did

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Speaker 3: from eighty through Clinton to make America safer than it

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Speaker 3: ever was. By the nineteen ninety even Clinton accomplish that. Yes,

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Speaker 3: now you follow those it could come right down again

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Speaker 3: because we abrogated all those For example, they now have

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Speaker 3: cashless dail. They put all the multiple criminals unless they

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Speaker 3: chop your head off and eat it back out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, three hours later for stabbing somebody.

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Speaker 3: James Q. Wilson studied and said, you got those are

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Speaker 3: the people, the people that could commit multiple crimes. No

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Speaker 3: matter what the multiple crime is, they eventually have to

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Speaker 3: be incarcerated because that's the only way to bring the

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Speaker 3: crime down. The best way to bring the crime down

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Speaker 3: is to get off the street to people's comitting it,

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Speaker 3: because they are crime machines, the career criminals. The bad

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Speaker 3: news is you got to put them in jail. The

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Speaker 3: good news is, if you had a good program to

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Speaker 3: identify it. It's not as many people as you think.

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Speaker 1: So Ryker's Island, you had twenty something thousand inmates in

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Speaker 1: Ryker's Island. Now it's probably under six. Yeah. I always right,

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Speaker 1: you put people and the city they were putting people

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Speaker 1: in jail, but not anymore.

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Speaker 3: Well, I described the city's problems. There are somewhere and

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Speaker 3: I used in number. I used to do this with

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Speaker 3: Bernie because he ran corrections and prisons. They're about right

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Speaker 3: now today and this is this is you know, a

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Speaker 3: big range, but a pretty good, pretty good one, seven

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Speaker 3: to eight to nine thousand people that are walking in

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Speaker 3: the streets or are severe criminals that are danger to

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Speaker 3: people that wouldn't be walking in the streets if we

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Speaker 3: changed our policies. And I was mayor, or Bloomberg was mayor.

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Speaker 3: But the only time in the last seventy years, because

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Speaker 3: we had the problem before too, that we did. That

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Speaker 3: is when you had a Republican republican independent mayor right

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Speaker 3: under a Democrat mayor, you have to deliver a policy

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Speaker 3: program that encourages criminals. When I became mayor, I was

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Speaker 3: I was aware of that. I mean, I was in

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Speaker 3: the law enforcement all my life. I was aware of

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Speaker 3: that because of the study of the organized of the

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Speaker 3: Attorney Generald Tasworth. When I came into being US Attorney,

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Speaker 3: I knew I had to cooperate like I saw. I

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Speaker 3: saw the governor of Illinois who is close to a

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Speaker 3: bering idiot. Uh, the one that the President calls a slab. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and he said he doesn't want and they don't need help.

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Speaker 1: Now they have five times the murderator of New.

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Speaker 3: York from the federal government I can't imagine, and he's

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Speaker 3: not going to work with Trump. I can't imagine doing that.

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Speaker 3: As mayor, I worked with Bill Clinton. I didn't like

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Speaker 3: Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: I disagree with Bill Clinton. Right. I worked really really

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Speaker 3: hard for not to be elected. But as the mayor

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Speaker 3: of New York, I had nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 3: I got to tell you the other thing, like Trump

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Speaker 3: had anything to do with him. He the night that

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Speaker 3: he lost the vote on the nineteen ninety four crime

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Speaker 3: Bill to Newton Gingridge, right, he called me up and

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Speaker 3: he said, may Or, people tell me you helped author this.

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Speaker 3: I said, mister President, I did, and that you've been

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Speaker 3: working on amendments to it that Republicans can agree to it.

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Speaker 3: I said, I have for four months with Schumer uh

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Speaker 3: and and with a Schumer in the House, and Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden Senate. Joe Biden's niece worked for me, and and

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Speaker 3: I said, this is just politics. They agree with I said,

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Speaker 3: Newt degrees with it. He I said, nude agrees with it.

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Speaker 3: He just wants to score you, which was something else

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Speaker 3: I would agree with. Wow, but don't do it to

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Speaker 3: me in crime. So then I went down to the

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Speaker 3: White House the next day two Republicans, myself and Mayor

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Speaker 3: Reared of Los Angeles, and we were on an airplane

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Speaker 3: to Minneapolis campaigning for the bill by noontime two Republicans.

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Speaker 3: What a major opponent of is and later a major

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Speaker 3: opponent of his and his wife, and I was one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent for the bill. When the bill was passed,

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Speaker 3: he had married the ceremony, and he gave me a

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Speaker 3: letter saying it was the best I was the best

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Speaker 3: mayor in America. I always wanted to use it if

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Speaker 3: I ran against her.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you because that's what.

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Speaker 3: That's what my conclusion is. Here's what happens. Why did

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Speaker 3: I do that? Because I care about my country and

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Speaker 3: my city more than the Republican Party or my political origin,

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Speaker 3: and or I define my political future as doing a

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Speaker 3: good job. I don't know what the I don't know

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Speaker 3: what these guys are so patriotic? Are they traders? Are

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Speaker 3: they stupid? Do they like to see them people? It's

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Speaker 3: already above well, do you know they had no murders

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Speaker 3: in the district for twelve days. If they had had murders,

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Speaker 3: ninety percent of them in black people. So who's lives that?

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Speaker 1: He says, right, And I think the black population has.

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Speaker 3: Brand mister President, the first guy that came along that

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Speaker 3: gave us twelve days and no black femen.

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Speaker 1: Even in Chicago, there's black people on the streets and

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Speaker 1: yeah they welcome.

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Speaker 3: Then guards out of ten in Chicago, seven and a

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Speaker 3: half out of ten in New York. When I get

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Speaker 3: them all angry, when they you know, they call me

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Speaker 3: a racism, I said, well, you're gonna have to deal

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Speaker 3: with the fact that I have the record, what record

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Speaker 3: for shaving more black lives than any mayor in the

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Speaker 3: history of the city.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Did you go ahead and you try to tell me

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Speaker 3: anybody else who saved more black lives than I've had.

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Speaker 3: So the merriage, how Highway?

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Speaker 1: You went from almost three thousand murders.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, I went from two thousand, four hundred to

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Speaker 3: six hundred, and Bloomberg turned out a three hundred.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible. So I worked with the builders at the

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Speaker 1: time when you were mayor, and you you uh, And

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Speaker 1: I have a point here that you know you worked

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Speaker 1: with the New York City Housing Partnership, which was run

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Speaker 1: by a Democrat, right, Kathy Wilde, where she was a Democrat. Right,

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Speaker 1: If you cleaned up all the neighborhoods. With that, you

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Speaker 1: gave home ownership opportunities to New Yorkers instead of just rentals.

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Speaker 3: I thought home ownership was important for having a stake

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Speaker 3: in the community. I participated in the program that is

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Speaker 3: controversial and is considered to be possibly a bit of

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Speaker 3: a contributor to the economic downturn, But there was it was.

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Speaker 3: You have to excuse it because it was an emergency

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Speaker 3: for it. I thought that one of the things that

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Speaker 3: would help assure the reduction of crimes can make people homeowners. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: if I could. First of all, if he can get

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Speaker 3: them out of the.

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Speaker 1: Damn I watched it Bushwick.

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Speaker 3: You cleaned up and get him out of the projects

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Speaker 3: step one, and put him in a better program.

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Speaker 1: Even government, you give somebody a title to a home,

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Speaker 1: they kick out the drug dealers from in front of

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Speaker 1: the house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they own capitalism when it works. So they

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Speaker 3: buy a home for let's say one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 3: They have a down payment very small, but the down

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Speaker 3: payment may have to be for them something like twenty thousand,

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Speaker 3: so they have maybe a thousand. We put an eleven

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, and this was happening at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: The Sunny May kicked in twenty five grand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The purpose I think of what happens to this, This

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Speaker 3: is what happens to their brains. These people became capitalists.

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Speaker 3: So now they have there too much one hundred thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars home. They probably put in more like two or

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Speaker 3: three million, two a three thousand, which is something for them.

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Speaker 3: They're the percentage that they were putting it meant a

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Speaker 3: lot more than them in the government and the government

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Speaker 3: puts the rest of the money in. Now, all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, one year and a place where one hundred

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Speaker 3: and thirty thousand, that whole investment is wiped out, then

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Speaker 3: it's two hundred thousand. Now they have equity. They got

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Speaker 3: these people have seventy thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: So I on a segue because that led to the

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Speaker 1: Anchor Revitalization program, because investors and retailers felt safe. You

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Speaker 1: had a program that gave federal loan guarantees for builders

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Speaker 1: to take risks and one sixteenth in lenx Parlow Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: I but also at the same time started a workfare program.

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Speaker 3: I said, if you're collecting welfare, you got to go

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Speaker 3: to work. Oh boy, do they get angry at me.

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Speaker 3: They loved me for one, hated me for the other.

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Speaker 3: And I said, you know that's second one, even more important,

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna love me more for that one. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I went to a meeting in my high school because

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Speaker 3: eventually I went so far as if you're getting welfare

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Speaker 3: and you're getting free education, you have to work, and

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Speaker 3: you got to work while you're going to school, but

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Speaker 3: only fifteen hours, not twenty.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: The kids went crazy, How can you expect us to study?

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Speaker 3: And so I got them all together in my old

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Speaker 3: high school, which is in the middle of Bedford St. Divisit. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because I thought if I went to my old high school,

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Speaker 3: I can impress them. You get about a thousand kids

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Speaker 3: in the auditorium, and I said, I explained the whole

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Speaker 3: thing about work ethic and why it's been destroyed, and

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Speaker 3: why if you have a second generation of welfare, you

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Speaker 3: know nobody at works, and how do you learn the

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Speaker 3: work ethic? You see it, You see your father and

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Speaker 3: mother working, You see your uncles, you see the guy

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Speaker 3: next door, the guy next door. Now I see the

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Speaker 3: opposite of that. No, father, Mommy can't work. Mommy's a

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Speaker 3: drug addict. Everybody's a drug addict. I don't understand. I

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Speaker 3: don't understand work. Yeah, and work is counter to laziness.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. We'll be back with more breaking Point

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Speaker 1: on Real America's Voice.

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Speaker 6: News, Hey, Ran Family and war Room Posse mark your

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Speaker 6: commandar September twelfth and thirteenth, The Rebels, Rogues and Outlaws

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Speaker 6: Tour is coming to the America First Warehouse.

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Speaker 1: Once again, I just want to remind you watch all

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Speaker 1: our live nine to eleven special coverage from ground zero

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Speaker 1: throughout the day on Real America's Voice News. And again

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Speaker 1: I sat down at Rudy Giuliani at a studio up

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Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. We talked about nine to eleven and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to play all that next week. But

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Speaker 1: now I have part three of our sit down with

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Speaker 1: Mayor Rudy Giuliani on how he turned around New York

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Speaker 1: City and how we can do it again and what

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Speaker 1: we got to do and we need leadership really bad.

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Speaker 1: Check it out. That is New York get back. Thirty

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Speaker 1: six percent of the kids don't go to school. Rape

676
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Speaker 1: is up twenty one and a half percent in New

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Speaker 1: York City so far this year. The subways, you know,

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Speaker 1: they stay, they're safehere. The subway cars aren't safe. How

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Speaker 1: do we get leadership back in New York City?

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Speaker 3: The like one, you're like somebody like that. Adams is

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Speaker 3: a real tragedy. Adams three quarters of the time has

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Speaker 3: the right idea and most of the time doesn't have

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Speaker 3: the courage to implement it because the Democrat Party will

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Speaker 3: cut us. You know, finally now he's free, but it's

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Speaker 3: too late. The people of the city have made a

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Speaker 3: conclusion about him. And I'm worried about the corruption that's

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Speaker 3: coming out. It's too much, and it's too much, and

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Speaker 3: it's too much like allegations about him when he was

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Speaker 3: borough president, you know, but except the money was two

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Speaker 3: to three times and very similar to what was the

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Speaker 3: Nobody's ever investigated all of the corruptions surrounding the pandemic

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Speaker 3: and the reason the Democrats were carrying on the pandemic

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Speaker 3: and even governors, Yeah, of course, I mean Kathy Hogel

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Speaker 3: got her campaign paid for it by the pandemic when

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Speaker 3: she ran for governor, and nobody covers it because Democrats

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Speaker 3: are allowed to be major criminals at a level we

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Speaker 3: were never tolerated in America. So we all see the

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Speaker 3: difference of country under God in Marls.

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Speaker 1: We all see the difference in New York pre COVID

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Speaker 1: to now the Blasio to now, you know, and it's

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Speaker 1: a sad state of affairs. So what happens if Mamdonnie

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Speaker 1: gets elected in New York City? Is he gonna work

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Speaker 1: with President Trump?

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Speaker 3: No, He's not gonna work with President Trump, which is

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Speaker 3: of course absurd. He has no choice but to work

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Speaker 3: with President Trump could take away a third of his budget.

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Speaker 3: The city already you know, twelve percent of his budget

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Speaker 3: doesn't exist, it's not in budget. You take away another

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Speaker 3: thirteen percent, that's twenty five percent of the budget has gone.

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Speaker 3: The city will starve.

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Speaker 1: Do you see a chance for a Republican or other

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Speaker 1: to win in a plurality like Lindsay won in nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty nine against Memdannie for all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, State, I'm gonna give you a scenario. See, Okay,

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Speaker 3: they stupidly elect him within a year. He's got us

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Speaker 3: so bankrupt. I mean the other times we were bankrupt,

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Speaker 3: we were bankrupt with than a range in which we

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Speaker 3: could fix it. And then you got good people that

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Speaker 3: came in that did it. Mcchin Carrie did that. I

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Speaker 3: did that with Pataggy. They have no idea how close

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Speaker 3: we were to bankruptcy when I took over the mayoralty.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we will actually bankruptcy is you have more

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Speaker 3: obligations than the US assets. We were in bankruptcy. The

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Speaker 3: reason I supported Mario Cuomo over Pattaggy the first time

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Speaker 3: is he promised to give me money and he would

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Speaker 3: have because he didn't want to see the city go bankrupt.

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Speaker 3: And Clomo helped me become mayor because he couldn't stand Dinkins.

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Speaker 3: He couldn't stand Dinkins. Cuomo had a conscience.

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Speaker 1: Well, the city was in turmoil.

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Speaker 3: Mario was a different guy. He was that. Mario was

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Speaker 3: a religious guy, and he had a conscience and he

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Speaker 3: couldn't watch. The thing that turned him off forever on

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Speaker 3: Dinkins was the crown high trun high. When they went

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Speaker 3: out and killed Juice. They just went out and killed

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Speaker 3: Jews like crazy, and Sharpton and Dinkins let Sharpton run the.

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Speaker 1: City, Freddie sneaker shop all this.

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Speaker 3: Queen was too good a man to accept that, because

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Speaker 3: he was a Democrat. I think it's part of the

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Speaker 3: reason he didn't run. He realized that they that they

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Speaker 3: all supported, they would reject him, and he was disgusted.

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Speaker 3: So I supported him because I didn't know Patacky. I

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Speaker 3: wasn't sure. I needed a sure thing. I needed somebody

743
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Speaker 3: that could help me if, in fact my programs didn't work.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't a fool, arrogant idiot. I was lucky. My

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Speaker 3: programs worked five times better than I thought. I was.

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Speaker 3: I remember saying about a year before my reelection, I'm

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Speaker 3: the luckiest person of the world. If they've tried to

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Speaker 3: reelect me a year and a half through, they'd throw

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Speaker 3: me out. Yes, I mean every program wasn't working. I

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Speaker 3: was forcing people to work. I was forcing people to

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Speaker 3: be on on on workfare. I was forcing students to

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Speaker 3: be on workfair. And I was going to tell them

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Speaker 3: I'm doing the best thing for you ever. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: You're gonna thank me when you get old, like my

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Speaker 3: father used to say. And they booted me off the stage. Yes,

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Speaker 3: do you know they come up to me now. Sometime

757
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Speaker 3: we should walk down the streets of the city. I

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Speaker 3: guarantee you if I walk for three blocks, I forgot it.

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Speaker 3: I will get an African American or someone else to say,

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Speaker 3: I was in your workfare program. I hated you. It

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Speaker 3: was the best thing that have happened. Do you know

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Speaker 3: how that makes me feel? Makes it all worse. I

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Speaker 3: watched I watched its bowler average. That's what I was

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Speaker 3: doing it for.

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Speaker 1: I watched whole neighborhoods get cleaned up. You can go

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Speaker 1: all the way up to Harlem. Under you, you let

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Speaker 1: to the revival Harlem.

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Speaker 3: Some of them are still better. Harlem's better. It's going back,

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Speaker 3: it is, but it's better than what it was.

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Speaker 1: I remember there wasn't a liquor of garbage all the

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Speaker 1: way up to one hundred and sixteenth Street when you

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Speaker 1: were married.

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Speaker 3: And the politicians who represented Harlem never did a damn

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Speaker 3: thing but steal the money that was coming in there.

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Speaker 3: For that's why Wrangell retires as a millionaire, Dinkins retires

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Speaker 3: as a millionaire. They were, and then they would glorified

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Speaker 3: as the pressed, as heroes of the black people. They

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Speaker 3: were actually the traders to the black piohblehood. They lived

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Speaker 3: off them, They lived off their institutional poverty and had

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Speaker 3: to keep them that way. No, I covety pimps used.

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Speaker 1: To be the sure used to be the word sure yeah,

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Speaker 1: and race baiters. Right all right. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: you so much.

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Speaker 3: Petition is one of the best interviews I've had. I

785
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Speaker 3: got to say something. You know the background of this

786
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Speaker 3: better than anybody's ever interviewed me.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Well, it's near and dear to me.

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Speaker 3: You should be in contact. I could use you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be explicit. Thank you. You know the people

790
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Speaker 1: of Worth were grateful for your leadership, not only during

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Speaker 1: nine to eleven, Thank you, but turning it around to

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Speaker 1: New York City.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. You know the message I'd like to leave

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Speaker 3: them with. Yeah, look, I'm I'm uh just even being

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Speaker 3: I am very aware of the fact that I didn't

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Speaker 3: do it by myself. Yes, I did get very very

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Speaker 3: lucky in having a terrific staff, and I had a

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Speaker 3: great Speaker of the City Council of Democrat Peter Malone.

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Speaker 3: George Kataki did odd. George couldn't accomplish as much because

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Speaker 3: he had the crook Shelley Silver. Yeah, I knew that.

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Speaker 3: I always felt bad for George. We have to buy

802
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Speaker 3: original support for Cuomo. I regretted it somewhat because George

803
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Speaker 3: turned out to be a great, great person and.

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Speaker 1: And showed leadership after.

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Speaker 3: He made one of the critical decisions in putting us together.

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Speaker 3: We nobody knows this, and it should be explainer because

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Speaker 3: people will follow it. We were a team for four months.

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Speaker 3: We were not without we were not outside of each

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Speaker 3: other's site more than two hours a day. We had

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Speaker 3: our staff meetings together. He took the governor's staff meeting

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Speaker 3: and the Mayor's staff meeting, and we held it together

812
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Speaker 3: because we knew we could get along. But we know

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Speaker 3: government enough to know that our staffs are going to

814
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Speaker 3: fight no matter what. And we put them there and

815
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Speaker 3: made them work jointly on things. And here was the

816
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Speaker 3: outcome of it. If something went wrong, had we not

817
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Speaker 3: done that, his staff would have blamed me, My staff

818
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Speaker 3: would have blamed him, and we never would have resolved it. Now,

819
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Speaker 3: if it goes wrong, we both have to defend it.

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Speaker 3: They're in the same room, and we got to fix it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was, And I think he came up

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Speaker 3: with that idea if he didn't agreed to it right away.

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Speaker 3: And I think that is probably a core principle of

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Speaker 3: how you deal with an emergency. There's got to be

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Speaker 3: a joint you. If you see a hurricane and you see,

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Speaker 3: like in Katrina, the governor in the capitol and the

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Speaker 3: mayor in a boat having a nervous breakdown, the federal

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Speaker 3: government can't do anything about that, right because they're not

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Speaker 3: on the spot. The President's going to golf and the

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Speaker 3: people going to die.

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Speaker 1: Well, again, it means a lot that you took the

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Speaker 1: time for us. I want to thank you, and you

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Speaker 1: know this.

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Speaker 3: Is very valuable reach that there real America's voice, America's

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Speaker 3: you're one of your one of the prime ten. I'd

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Speaker 3: say I put on a list of eight ten that

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Speaker 3: saved free speech in America during the during the dark Ages.

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Speaker 1: We're in touch with the people.

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Speaker 3: The dark agents were the bite.

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Speaker 1: We listened to the real American voices across America, and

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Speaker 1: that's what.

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Speaker 3: Makes rapidly just telling the truth. You're using common sense,

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Speaker 3: as the President says, to try to figure out the truth. Look,

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Speaker 3: there are times I disagree with him. We're a mirror,

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Speaker 3: but I use the same process that he uses, and

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Speaker 3: then we eventually I eventually can figure out or he

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Speaker 3: moderates it. You know, it's not that you agree with

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Speaker 3: someone like that who you admire. I've worked for Ronald Reagan. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I agree with Ronald Reagan eighty percent of the time.

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Speaker 3: Nine percent of the time. But that's more than enough.

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Speaker 3: And he did monumental things like free Eastern Europe.

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Speaker 1: You know what the core of it is, the good

853
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Speaker 1: people of America are tired of being told they're the

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Speaker 1: bad people, and they just that's why Donald Trump got elected.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we could talk about this at some point,

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Speaker 3: but I'm going to tell you how to keep the

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Speaker 3: key thing to it. Throwing God out. Sure, you throw

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Speaker 3: God out, you can't have moraleity.

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Speaker 1: Look what happened in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: You need you need. I say to people that don't

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Speaker 3: believe in God, you're better off with a country that

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Speaker 3: believes in God, because it'll be a better country. Maybe

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Speaker 3: you're special and you can figure out how to be

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Speaker 3: very moral and high minded and contributory without God. Most

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Speaker 3: people need God.

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