1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 2: Cowboys. 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 1: This is nick shot screening live on Dallascowboys dot Com 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones, 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola. 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: It's a back to work Wednesday here in the SWBC 8 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 3: podcast studio. Welcome on in for mix shots featuring Everson Walls, 9 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 3: Hey Harrison, and Mickey Spagnola. The first segment of the show, 10 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: He's gonna beil out on us here after long first segment. 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: I like when you provide me the title to. 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 5: The show back back door, there you go. All right, 13 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 5: it's always hard to come up. 14 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: What was yesterday? Mondays was half and half? It was 15 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 3: half cup, half full, but half and half. 16 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: It's gonna be optim. 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: What was yesterday? I can't even remember yesterday? 18 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 2: Terrible. 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: It's back to work Wednesday because it's now we're moving on, 20 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: yes sir. When New York Jets the winless New York 21 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: Jets the next opponent, I think. 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 5: It was the lowdowns kind of we were talking about 23 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 5: the downs, third down, fourth down, Okay, of that the lowdown. 24 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 4: We're giving you the lowdown, lowdown. 25 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 6: Also, though I don't know we're quite moving on all 26 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 6: the way. 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 3: You're not excited. 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 6: About no, no, no, I mean we we talked about, 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 6: you know, linebacker playing to delve into that today. 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: My rundock running back down says Jets defensive. 31 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that that's to add on. Okay, he said 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 6: yesterday back and there was something else that running back 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 6: and running back and running back. 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 7: I just remember what I said, Jones. 35 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 2: Start with start with the Miles Sanders. 36 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 8: Uh. 37 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we left off talking to jay Blue. 38 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the last thing on the rundown. That's a 39 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: segment three. Louy, you drive the bus. 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: I just don't want us to go back to nineteen 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: seventy four. 42 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, here's here's what. 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: About. 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: Okay, here's what we need to do as we sort 45 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 3: this out. Because we only have Mickey in the first segment. Yes, okay, 46 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: then we got two more segments after Mickey, and so 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 3: it's what Mickey. Mickey wants to talk in the first 48 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 3: segment in the book, we're gonna be Mickey heavy. Okay, 49 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: that can be Jayden Blue. Okay, we're teasing what we 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: got ahead, we got the Jayden Blue Opportunity, question Mark 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: Trench battle, Jets defensive Stars versus Cowboys plan. We've got 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 3: news around the league. Dylan Gabriels now the starting quarterback 53 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: in Cleveland. That's the news of this morning. Anything else 54 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: breaking around the league? 55 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: Closer the Giants. 56 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 3: How about the wide receiver injuries around the league? Now 57 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: where Elak Neighbors went down and Tyreek Hill. 58 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 2: That was awful, both of those awful. 59 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: Tyreek sound I did really. 60 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: Be the one, And don't want to say I was warned. 61 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: I was out of the office when and I wasn't 62 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 3: watching when Tyreek had his, but I was warned about it. 63 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: So I said, well, I'm not going to look at it, and. 64 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I won't be looking at. 65 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: When I heard it described as a joke, thiseman, like, 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 3: I was like, no, not a I'll take your word 67 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: for it. 68 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, So well, Dax in twenty twenty, another really bad 69 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 5: My dog. 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 6: My dog started howling when it happened because my dogs. 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: Like, oh no, my dad happening. Just feel like he saw. 72 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 3: So it wasn't that he saw it on TV. He 73 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: just felt the room. 74 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 7: He felt the room, he felt the. 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: Air, air room. 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 5: Anytime he's seen the trainers running out with towels in 77 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 5: their hand, it's not a good sign. 78 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 9: There's so many injuries happening, like the Achilles injury is 79 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 9: something that's very common these days. I don't know if 80 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 9: you guys have the same injury back in your day, 81 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 9: but it seems like. 82 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: You talk about Achilles. 83 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: Got it? Please? Please? 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just we just filled up the first second 85 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: he'll show you to go back to Vicky falling off 86 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: his bicycle. 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 7: Here, let's see the scars. 88 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: Injuries. 89 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: That's the Achilles heel of our show. 90 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 6: He's disgusting Achilles heels all I know. 91 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: And I see a guy walk off and he didn't 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 5: get hit, and it's like you already know as. 93 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 3: Soon as you saw Drake greenlago off the sidewine, I 94 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 3: did that. 95 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I absolutely recognize it. 96 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: We've stalled and giving enough time to talk about. 97 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: You know what. 98 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 5: I heard discussions and you know, and I shouldn't listen 99 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 5: to talk radio. 100 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 7: But you're on talk right. 101 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 5: So I heard one person and I was thinking about this, 102 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 5: how half full half empty? That somebody said, well the 103 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 5: Cowboys could really be zero and four And I'm going, okay, 104 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 5: but they could be three and one, and it's like, 105 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 5: how do you want to look at it, because both 106 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: of them are you know, you could have lost the 107 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: two overtime games for sure, but you could have won 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 5: one of them and you could have won that season 109 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 5: opener because you had the ball with a chance to 110 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 5: take the lead in the fourth quarter. 111 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: Wow. 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: So that is definitely a glass. That's a glass overflowing. 113 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 5: So I'm thinking one, two and one probably accurate. 114 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 6: Well, my thing about this season is, as I hopefully 115 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 6: predict correctly, we'll do better at the end of the season. 116 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 6: And yes, I understand that we have a stretch that 117 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 6: is the most powerful stretch in scheduling history. I understand that, 118 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 6: But I don't look for us scoring more points. I 119 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 6: look for our defense to finally improve somewhere down the 120 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 6: line between now and November. 121 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 7: That's you would hope, That's what I mean. 122 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 6: It has to happen, right, it has to happen. I mean, 123 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 6: if we have a coach here that was a head 124 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 6: coach and it's considered to have defensive prowess and for 125 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 6: his team to be underperforming at this point, I would 126 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 6: think it's way overdue. And I think for someone like him, 127 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 6: with the legacy that he has. 128 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 7: We've got to get this together. 129 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 6: Because the system has been it's been profitable for Chicago Bears. 130 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 2: When he was there. 131 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 6: They didn't have a good offense, but they damn sure 132 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 6: had a good defense. They weren't giving up forty points 133 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 6: a game. Yeah, So we could just get to that 134 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 6: point to where we're a solid defense, our offense can control, 135 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 6: can control our destiny. 136 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe just okay or good. 137 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 9: It's still early in the season, and so that's why 138 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 9: you have that optimism. If we would have done predictions 139 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 9: as a show, I would have at this point. I 140 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 9: think I had to said it right about two and 141 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 9: two if we were three, If we would have been 142 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 9: three and three and one, I would have been a 143 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 9: little afraid for us, if you know, maybe fake optimism 144 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 9: going into the rest of the sea. 145 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: A lot of that here. 146 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 9: Still yeah, still, but I think I'm with you, Mickey, 147 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 9: when it could have gone either way as far as 148 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 9: the Philly game, and especially the last game that we 149 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 9: played not ending up in a tie. 150 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: But man, at this point in the season that coaches speak. 151 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 9: Boy gets so loud, and God starts saying the same thing, 152 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 9: and I can hear it. 153 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: Now, we just got to put it together. We just 154 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: gotta put it together. 155 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 5: What do you think Aaron Glenn is saying in New 156 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 5: York right, same thing, but I. 157 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 9: Mean think about the contrast from him at zero to 158 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 9: four and an offense that you know, they've been in 159 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 9: their battles, but still at certain times it is looked 160 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 9: like a struggle for them. 161 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 2: On the other end, for the Cowboys, your offense is 162 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: bawling right now. 163 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 9: You got a quarterback that is red hot right now, 164 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 9: and then the contrast is like we're hot, we're cold, 165 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 9: you know, and it's just that go together. That's why 166 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 9: I say, if you put it all together as a 167 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 9: team defensively, that optimism that you're talking about, I think 168 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 9: it fixes everything. 169 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 5: I mean, as you said, they're a second away from 170 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 5: two to two, right so. 171 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: You know what they are saying on Mixed shots and 172 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 3: Jets Land Jets shots, they're saying they could be three 173 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 3: and one right now. They've been looking at they they 174 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: lost to Pittsburgh and the opener. They lost to Pittsburgh 175 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 3: and the opener thirty four to thirty two, and then 176 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 3: they got blown out by Buffalo thirty to ten at 177 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay twenty nine, twenty seven. Remember what happened in 178 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: that game? They were ahead and Baker Mayfield brought them 179 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: down the field for one game winning field goal. Yep, Okay. 180 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: Then last week at Miami, Braylan Allen beginning of the game, 181 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 3: he's he's basically landing in the end zone and fumbles 182 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: before he gets there. They had three turnovers and they 183 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: thirteen penalties. I mean, it's their own fault, you know. 184 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: But it was a twenty seven to twenty one game. 185 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: I mean the touchdown was late, right, Yeah, they get 186 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 3: it closer? 187 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? 188 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 4: Was that the forty two yard. 189 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 7: But they they have a block field goal. 190 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: They got to be sitting there going okay. They could 191 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: be saying the same thing. Instead of owing four or three, 192 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: they could be three and one. 193 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: I can see that. 194 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 7: I can see that. I didn't want to see it, 195 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 7: but I can see that. 196 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 5: They're zero and four for the first time since twenty twenty. 197 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 7: I see. These are the teams that make me nervous. 198 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: This is it? Well, yeah, because they're gonna win one 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: on the Chicago. 200 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: They're gonna wine, you know what I mean, They're not 201 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 4: gonna lose them all. At some point it's gonna fall 202 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 4: on their lap. Just don't want it to be you. 203 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 6: Well, and if you go into if you go into 204 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 6: a game on the road with a hell of an 205 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 6: offense and a weak defense, then you can look forward 206 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 6: to that defense failing you in the end. 207 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 9: Your strengths, your strengths are kind of huler opposite from 208 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 9: one another, because their defense, I would say at this point, 209 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 9: would be one of their strengths. Although you talk about 210 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 9: the points that they've given up, it because the offense. 211 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 9: The offense hadn't done them any favors at all. But 212 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 9: if y'all hadn't watched them on the all twenty two. 213 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 9: Quinn Williams numbing is a treat to watch. 214 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah from out back, going back to Alabama. 215 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: I remember him at Alabama. He wasn't a treat to 216 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 3: watch for an Oklahoma fan, even when wait, wait, one 217 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: of the best centers in football, in college football and 218 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: now in the National Football League, Creed Humphrey had his 219 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: hands full with Quinn Williams in a college football playoff game. 220 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: And he's been that kind of player since. 221 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: Well. 222 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 5: I was going to remind everybody that the Cowboys did 223 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 5: play justin fields last year. Yep, so they should know 224 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 5: about him. And as a matter of coordinator coached him 225 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 5: right in Chicago. And a matter of fact, Fields through 226 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 5: a touchdown pass with four fifty six to go, and 227 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: Pittsburgh was up seventeen thirteen, and the Cowboys scored the 228 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 5: winning touchdown with twenty seconds to go. Dak throws to 229 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 5: Balen Tolbert and they win seventeen. 230 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 4: And I got reminded that in that game. 231 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 5: Tolbert had seven catches for eighty seven yards in a touchdown, 232 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 5: and that was the guy everybody wanted to dismiss. 233 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got nine lives, man, he has none. 234 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: He just kind of shows up. 235 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 7: I'm starting to soft him. 236 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 4: It's like, don't forget about me. 237 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, and so uh And in that game, Fields 238 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 5: was fifteen of twenty seven, only one hundred and thirty 239 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 5: one yards, got sacked three times, but he threw two 240 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 5: touchdown passes. 241 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 2: Uh. That was that was a nice win. 242 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 4: They limited. 243 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 2: Oh that was a good. Yeah, that was nice. 244 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 6: And they got to them with their own way of 245 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 6: playing ball. 246 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 4: And that was Pittsburgh got to three and two. He won. 247 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 4: The next game, they got to four. 248 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 5: And two, and then they yanked him and Russell Wilson 249 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:57,719 Speaker 5: took over the rest way. Oh, and they had that 250 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 5: winning streak they did until they lost the last four 251 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 5: games of the year. 252 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 9: And in this game, I want to see Sauce Gardener, 253 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 9: you know, by Sauce Gardener rangy corner. 254 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: He's complaining, complaining because he thinks he's getting bad calls 255 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 5: because he plays for the Jets and they're got a 256 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 5: losing records. 257 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: So I heard, you know, I heard picking up. 258 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 9: I heard that, and I felt like he he's on 259 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 9: a bad team and bad teams ain't gonna come on out. 260 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: They don't get a call. 261 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 9: Yeah, bad teams. I'm just saying, right, so it's legitimate. 262 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 9: It's just oh and four and they're not going to 263 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 9: get the benefit of the doubt. 264 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 6: And I know you don't as a dB, I don't, 265 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 6: but but I don't want to hear. 266 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 9: On the other side, he's got to match up this 267 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 9: weekend with George Pickens. 268 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 7: I was out there with a referee. I knew his name. 269 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 6: So you don't want to be too close to to 270 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,199 Speaker 6: referees because they feel like they can call it on 271 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 6: you without repercussion, because I mean you and you and 272 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 6: I talked you know before the game, after game, doing 273 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 6: the game, saying little words here and there. 274 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 3: Ever since a nice guy, Yeah yeah. 275 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah yeah, and that he got a little bit 276 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 6: too comfortable, big al. He got a little bit too 277 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 6: comfortable with throwing flags on me. So now I don't 278 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 6: want to hear it. He got nothing to do with 279 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 6: the team. 280 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 5: And by the way it is, in that game against 281 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 5: the Cowboys, George Pickens had three catches for twenty six yards. 282 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: He should never finish in game three catches for. 283 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 9: No and he can't finish, He can't finish that we 284 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 9: were not here, happen here. No, that's that's not the 285 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 9: stat that you want to hear. But I'm looking forward 286 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 9: to this matchup because you got good on good. Anytime 287 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 9: you get that, I think that's that's what people love 288 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 9: on Sunday. And defensive line wise, Quinn Williams, do. 289 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 7: They do they follow? Does he follow the best receiver? 290 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 9: He hadn't, But in this situation, I don't see why 291 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 9: he wouldn't. That's what that's what you that's what you 292 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 9: play the game. 293 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 6: Sometimes it messes up the integrity of your defense. Sometimes 294 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 6: I don't know what there is if you're following Yeah, 295 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 6: we couldn't really do that with the flex because the 296 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 6: flex flex. Now maybe on third down, on third downs, 297 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 6: I remember following Keith Jackson on third downs some of 298 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 6: the another your boy Oklahoma, Okay, Oklahoma. And so yeah, 299 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 6: it depends on especially on first and second down rundowns. 300 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 6: You want to keep the interview of the defense. I 301 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 6: think if they're playings on versus anything else. 302 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 9: Now, that's the one thing that I'm coming into this 303 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 9: game saying, run the damn ball. 304 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: Run the ball. 305 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 9: Make it easy on yourself because this is a team 306 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 9: that that offense is you know, no good. And unless 307 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 9: you keep those guys you know out on the field 308 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 9: making mistakes, man, your offense can be taking advantage of 309 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 9: this defense. 310 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 6: I think we should well. I think it would be 311 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 6: worse to let him run. I would rather he passed 312 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 6: the ball. 313 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, keep triggered by the official that big Al. 314 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: Yeah you remember, remember had a big oul because Big 315 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: Al called tell me more about big Al. What do 316 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: you know about it? 317 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 7: I know he wear OL's last name, but he did 318 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 7: he wear goggles? No? No he didn't. 319 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 3: Okay, I looked up somebody. I did an ai sir, Yeah, 320 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: Al jury who was a back judge in the NFL, 321 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: then switched the field judge after the league in nineteeny eight, 322 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 3: So it was a back judge when you were playing. 323 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: I just wore prescription goggles. He was also a California 324 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: Highway Patrol officer. 325 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 7: I can see that. Maybe him jury, Yeah, maybe him. 326 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 7: I'm thinking he was Everything was funny. 327 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: He was selected to officiate. Okay, how many super Bowls 328 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: did you go to? 329 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 2: Ever? So I just went to one. 330 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: He went to five super Bowls. 331 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 6: Maybe that's why he feels like he has the elector to 332 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 6: do what the hell he. 333 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: Wanted, record tying five super Bowls. He was an official 334 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: from nineteen seventy eight to two two thousand and three. 335 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: I would be there. 336 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 3: I bet it is. 337 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 7: I bet that's him. 338 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: I recognize the name less garden. It feels the same 339 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 2: way about referees right now. 340 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 5: They lost, Uh, they may have lost their nickel corner 341 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 5: Michael Carter. He's in concussion, so we'll see what happens there. 342 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 5: And they did lose their backup running back Braylen Allen. 343 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 5: He's got a he's on IR with a torn. 344 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 7: He was pretty good. 345 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: I like you. 346 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a big green notebook guy. Yeah, I 347 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 3: like him a lot. He's very young. 348 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, buddy, so who's the fact. 349 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 3: I was watching the game the other night. I was 350 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 3: selling the guy in our office. I really liked his 351 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 3: brailen out. In the next play, footbles right on top 352 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 3: and then like five minutes later he hurts his leg 353 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 3: just a death. 354 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: Briesce halls their leading guy, right Iowa State? Yeah? 355 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, so actually their leading rusher is Justin just Fields. Yeah, 356 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: he may not be their leading rusher. By the last game, 357 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: he had eighty one yards on seven carries. Have the 358 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 3: Cowboys had any problems with quarterbacks that get out and 359 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 3: just run. 360 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 9: Just a little bit, just a little bit, and playing 361 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 9: zone the way we do. Yeah, I think quarterbacks have 362 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 9: had some success justin fields. That's what you got to limit. 363 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 9: And that's what I can remember from that game. Remember 364 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 9: playing him when he was with Chicago and we played 365 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 9: on at and t him running the ball. Mike Michael 366 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 9: made a hell of a player in that game. But 367 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 9: I have it's gone now, It's all over now, guys, 368 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 9: I'm just. 369 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 5: Saying, guess who leads the Jets in rushing touchdown? 370 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 2: Who is that? 371 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 3: Justin Fields? 372 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 5: So three, he's got twenty four carries for one hundred 373 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 5: and seventy eight yards. 374 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 3: And that's just in three games. He didn't play against 375 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay. 376 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: Right, that's somewhere now. 377 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 6: Now, when you when you have a running quarterback, if 378 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 6: you're a defensive coordinator, you're going to be thinking about 379 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 6: playing a little bit more zone simply because you don't 380 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 6: want to open things up in the secondary. Why wide 381 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 6: receivers running all over the place opening up the middle 382 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 6: of the so that the quarterback can scramble. But we 383 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 6: gave up in Chicago a lot of yards to the 384 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 6: quarterback in a zone. When you play a zone. 385 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 5: You're supposed to be looking at the quarter supposed to. 386 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 6: Be looking at the quarterback, and he still was able to. 387 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: You know, all went back and looked at some of that. 388 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 3: But they took advantage on that nineteen yard nineteen play drive. 389 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: You could tell they really took advantage on the quarterback runs, 390 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 3: which are big plays on that drive of what was 391 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,400 Speaker 3: as Iroku and it might have been foul. Another one 392 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: where a defensive end as Iraku made two plays in 393 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: a row where he just he just bit down on 394 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: an inside run and made a tackle for lost whatever, 395 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: and it was like, Okay, he's going to do that. 396 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: Then it was like zone read out first down with 397 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, and so a lot of. 398 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 7: That with those I can understand. 399 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 6: But when the it comes to a pass play where 400 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 6: it's a broken, broken play to where he couldn't find 401 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 6: anyone and then he takes off and no one sees 402 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 6: him for fifteen yards, that's what the zone coverage is for, 403 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 6: and they obviously they have to work on that. They 404 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 6: guys like Jalen Hurts, guys like fields, they don't just 405 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 6: study the defense down the field. They're looking at the 406 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 6: rush itself and they manipulate it. So you know immediately 407 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 6: if you see as a rocker or whoever coming on 408 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 6: the outside, the first thing they're gonna think is okay, 409 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 6: I have a gap here, I can take advantage out 410 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 6: and still look downfield. 411 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 7: And happens all the time with mobile quarterbacks. 412 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 5: See and I don't know that they've got a linebacker 413 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 5: that could run with a quarterback that's mobile. Lea foul maybe, 414 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 5: but the other guys they ain't running with a quarternoon. 415 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: Somebody said, well you got a spy, Well you need 416 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 4: a spy that can spy. 417 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, you're gonna have to get it. 418 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 6: That's why you gotta get a nickel sometimes, right, yeah, 419 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 6: you gotta get a nickel and you get a big 420 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 6: guy in there that can't run well a safety bring 421 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 6: a safety down down on whoever or like overshown right, Sorry, yes, 422 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 6: but you know you want someone who's agile enough and 423 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 6: smart enough and poison enough to know what they're doing. 424 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: You have one final mix shot. It's twelve twenty one. 425 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 3: You said you wanted to get out of here at 426 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 3: twelve twenty. 427 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 4: I did have one more hangout. 428 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 3: Okay, it's over here. I think. 429 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 5: How about did we talk We did talk Dath yesterday. 430 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 5: Didn't we a little bit bit what his stats were? 431 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 2: We can talk aboutsketball? 432 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 5: Just absolutely incredible at this point. 433 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 7: What is he doing. 434 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 5: Number one in completions in the NFL, number one in attempts, 435 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 5: number one in passing yards. He's second in touchdowns with six, 436 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 5: the lead is seven, and he's third in completion percentage 437 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 5: seventy two points nine percent. Anything over sixty five is 438 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:09,919 Speaker 5: damn good. And he's over seventy, so uh yeah, he's playing. 439 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 6: And that Having said that, you would think that he 440 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 6: would be doing this all on his own. 441 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 7: But when you have a running. 442 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 4: Game to go with actly exactly, that. 443 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 6: Really lets you know how good our offensive output is 444 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 6: on the average. 445 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 4: And with a beat up offensive line, no good. 446 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: Stuff and he but you know what's the yards per attempt? 447 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: It's just six point seven? 448 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's cause of Fergus. 449 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 450 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 10: Right, But do you have thirty in his career? Guards 451 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 10: just to get put that in perspective. We put that 452 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 10: in perspective his in his career, he's seven point five 453 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 10: yards per attempt? 454 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 3: You like that? Eight point zero yards per attempt? 455 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 2: Yes? 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Oh? 527 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 7: Now we can relax? 528 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 2: Goodness, you want to start running backs? 529 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: Running backs? You can't wait to get that Jayden Blue 530 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 3: on outfield man? 531 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: What you know, well, I don't think. I don't. 532 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 9: What I don't know is is who they're gonna play. 533 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 9: If it's gonna be Moules Sanders who went out with 534 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 9: believe it's the ankle injuries U lower lower extremity injury. 535 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 9: But I have been waiting to see Blue. You draft 536 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 9: him in the late rounds. I've been able to see 537 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 9: what he could do because just following University of Texas 538 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 9: football and see how impactful he is. 539 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 2: Javonte Williams. 540 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 9: And I'm not looking for him because I think that 541 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 9: Javonte Williams Isn't that I think Javonte Williams is a 542 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 9: hell of a running back, and it's surprised for me 543 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 9: when they signed him in the off season, I was like, guys, 544 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 9: wait a minute, we need a running back if you're 545 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 9: gonna let go of ric o'daldo all of these guys 546 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 9: that we've had come through to here to please Okay, 547 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 9: I mean we've had Pollard. We need to get Dak 548 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 9: the running back that's able to give him the production 549 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 9: that we see now, to make him the quarterback that 550 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 9: we see that he is now, but having that change 551 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,160 Speaker 9: of pace as you've seen with other teams being able 552 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 9: to take advantage of that changing pace running back, I 553 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 9: think to Javonte Williams, really, I think you're still underutilizing 554 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 9: Javonte Williams. I think eighteen carriage is not enough. I 555 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 9: think he needs more like twenty five. And when I 556 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 9: saw Ales Sanders go out and they gave Hunter Lifky, 557 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 9: even though I've been waiting on a hundred lity sighting, 558 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 9: I was like, man, give that ball to Javonte Williams 559 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 9: because of the production that he's been giving you. So look, 560 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 9: I'm just I think you get a running back that 561 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 9: is a bruiser, a finisher, but I also want to 562 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 9: see the change of pace to him being somebody that's 563 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 9: more crafty, more shifty, and more elusive. And I think 564 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 9: Blue is going to give you that, and I'm ready 565 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 9: to see it. 566 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 6: You know, with Javonte, I understand what you're saying, giving 567 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 6: the ball more. I think really the only game where 568 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 6: I can say we needed to give the ball more 569 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 6: to and was in the Chicago. Yes, I thought that 570 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 6: was the game where he should have carried it twenty 571 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,239 Speaker 6: twenty five times to take the load off of our 572 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 6: offense and our defense who was on the field way 573 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 6: too much. 574 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: So if he was on pace to do that, and 575 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 3: then the game got away from and the game got 576 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 3: a nineteen play drive at right and even all of 577 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: a sudden, that's fourth quarter and you're down seventeen points. 578 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 6: But even with the even with the fumble, I thought 579 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 6: he had a good game in Chicago. And as far 580 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 6: as I'm concerned, Bill, I didn't think the clock was 581 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 6: running out too fast to where we still could have 582 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 6: given it to Hi when we were down seventeen. I mean, 583 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 6: I thought it still would have allowed us to get 584 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 6: a rhythm going. 585 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 7: I think Dak would have been able to perform. 586 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 6: Better if we would have kept running Javonte even after 587 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 6: the seventeen down. 588 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 9: That's just my opinion, and I'm not second guessing coach 589 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 9: shot Nhaumer in that decision, but I'm with you when Hey, 590 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 9: you down seventeen, run the ball. At least that way, 591 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 9: you're not taking Dak off the field, you're not being predictable. 592 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: Well, here's what happened on that Okay, Cowboys got the 593 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 3: ball back there, down thirty one to fourteen, got it 594 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 3: back with nine seconds left in the third quarter, and 595 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 3: so they went tempo and three straight completions. They're facing 596 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: third and two at the Chicago thirty one. They get 597 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 3: a penalty a hold on steal that pushed them back 598 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 3: on the pass play yep, and then there was a 599 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: penalty illegal contact. Got a first down at the Chicago 600 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: thirty six, through the past to pickings and it went 601 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: off pickings picked off by Tremaine Edmunds, and so they 602 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 3: were matriculating by throwing, okay, and then it was just 603 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: a drop that carramed off of picking hands and the 604 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: Tremaine Edmunds. And now you're getting the ball back the 605 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: next time with eight minutes left in the game, down seventeen. 606 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 6: If you if you go back to before the three 607 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 6: straight completions. You're much more likely to get a holding 608 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 6: call on the passing plate than you're on the running right, 609 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 6: and so running, being able to run the ball helps 610 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 6: you eliminate. 611 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 3: Especially especially down seventeen, because they're pinning their ears back 612 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: coming out right. 613 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 6: They're coming back, They're coming at you right, and so 614 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 6: you know, slip Javonte in there every once in a while, 615 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 6: which we had been doing successfully the entire game. I 616 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 6: think it just it gives your offense. What does an 617 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 6: offensive line would like to do? 618 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: Right? They run block. 619 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 6: I mean they don't mind, you know, protecting the quarterback. 620 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 6: They love that too. But man, when they really want to. 621 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 2: Show what they're worth, they want to get out there. 622 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 7: They want to get out there and go forward. 623 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 6: That we should have started the game with that three 624 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 6: straight completions. That's fine, But now you still look at 625 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 6: what Everson. 626 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 3: What would we have talked about in the first segment 627 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: if Javonte Williams carried the ball a lot in that game, 628 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,959 Speaker 3: because Dak would not be leading the league in passing 629 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 3: yards and Mickey wouldn't have had anything to talk about. 630 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 6: Well, one thing you have here is a bunch of 631 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 6: a bunch of Dak fans. But Dak will tell you 632 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 6: stats are one thing. Wins are totally to a whole 633 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 6: other thing. 634 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, and you have an offense right now that really 635 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 9: is firing on all cylinders. And I think the game 636 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 9: plan going against Green Bay, because come on. 637 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 7: Guys, face it. 638 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 9: You had your hope or optimism in that game surrounding 639 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 9: that defense was they're going to choke us out, you know, 640 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 9: with the athletes that they have on the front line, 641 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 9: and you saw that game plan. If we're gonna run 642 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 9: right at them, make them adjust to us and the 643 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 9: pressure that we're putting on them. They never had an 644 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 9: answer for Javonte Williams. They never had an answer for 645 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 9: the gash plays that he kept presenting. And I think 646 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 9: look combined with that going into this Jets game, because look, 647 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 9: I really respect this defense for the Jets, and I 648 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 9: think Aaron Glenn has the potential to turn this thing 649 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 9: around based off of who they have upfront. I mean 650 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 9: we're talking about guys like Jalen Carter, Quinn Williams is 651 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 9: another test for our offensive line in the interior. But 652 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 9: if we can run the ball, that changes everything. Yeah, 653 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 9: that changes everything, and it makes them adjust to us. 654 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 9: So that game plan I think works better than anything. 655 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 9: And now we have that piece in Javonte Williams that 656 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 9: we can come in there and use. And oh, by 657 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 9: the way, if we need to rest him for a spell, 658 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 9: we can bring another guy in A's eve just as 659 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 9: qualified and can have that big play potential just like him. 660 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 7: We've got. 661 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 6: And the Jets to me, similar teams, so much potential, 662 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 6: but they're not playing up to it. 663 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 8: No. 664 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 2: You know. 665 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 3: The thing on Jaden Blue though, is and with any 666 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 3: rookie running back is I would say temper your enthusiasm 667 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 3: a little bit on it, just from the standpoint of 668 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: he's a rookie, and there's so much that goes into it, 669 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: as far as even coaches trusting rookies to even put 670 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: them on the field, which he has not been. Yep, 671 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 3: that's right. And even when you look at his time 672 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: at Texas, you go back and look at his history 673 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: when he came out of high school, they didn't play 674 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 3: a senior year of high school. He's got his academics 675 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 3: in order. Okay, he goes to Texas, Bjean would has 676 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: still been there I think in twenty two, which is 677 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 3: his rook His freshman year there, he only had fifteen 678 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: carries that year. The next year they had CJ. Baxter 679 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 3: or was it last year? I guess last year c J. 680 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: Baxter number one running back in the country, and by 681 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 3: deep he got hurt in pre season and by deep fault, 682 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: Jayden became a guy. So his second year there he 683 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: only had sixty five carries. So finally, last year is 684 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 3: when he got the opportunity at Texas, had one hundred 685 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 3: and thirty four carries, seven hundred and thirty yards, eight touchdowns. 686 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 3: Also caught the ball forty two times, six more touchdowns. 687 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 6: So that's that's his strength right there, right right. 688 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 3: And so what you're planning on using him is that 689 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: is as that as you say the change up to 690 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 3: Javante and he does bring that juice, the four three 691 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 3: eight speed, but it's just a question of with and 692 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 3: you look around the league, a lot of running backs 693 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 3: that were drafted higher than him are having a hard 694 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: time getting on the field. Right now, it's going to 695 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 3: come because running backs get hurt and basically what happened here. 696 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 3: Sanders is nicked up, and so it looks like Jaden 697 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 3: might get his opportunity this week. 698 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: We'll see. Yeah. 699 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 9: I guess my optimism comes from seeing guys like Bucky 700 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 9: Irvin for Tampa, you know, be so successful late gip. 701 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 9: Maybe I don't know exact actly worry, but I don't. 702 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 9: I know he was. 703 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 2: I think it was a late round pick and he's 704 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: fourth round. 705 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 9: Okay, But either way, you know, a late round pick 706 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 9: and a guy that a team really doesn't have a 707 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 9: whole lot of expectation on but comes in and is 708 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 9: a pleasant surprise to you. Talk about him being a 709 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 9: receiver out of the backfield. What is Dak doing right now? 710 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 9: Being able to survey change plays at the line of 711 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 9: scrimmage and check down. Now instead of checking down to 712 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 9: your favorite receiver Jake Ferguson, you can check down to blue. 713 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 7: Light with some speed. 714 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 9: Come on, That's all you're asking for in those situations. 715 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 9: And I think that's a great convenience. Not that Javonte 716 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 9: Williams can't do it, because he can and the numbers 717 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 9: say that he absolutely can. I just I just feel 718 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 9: like we have something special in him. I've been watching 719 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 9: this kid ever since he was someoney, somebody that was 720 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 9: never the He might have been the third running back 721 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 9: at a certain point at Texas, but when guys got 722 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 9: hurt and he got his opportunity, he took advantage of it. 723 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 6: Well, now he needs to do that here because at 724 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 6: this point there's no true us. And that was voiced 725 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 6: by the coach specifically. You know, he didn't want to 726 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 6: say it. You know, read it between the lines. 727 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 2: It was easy to. 728 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 6: Read between these lives, and so you know that that's unfortunate. 729 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 6: And I don't want I don't want him coming out 730 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,760 Speaker 6: there with that kind of self imposed pressure on himself. 731 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 7: And so I don't know it. I'm hoping that, you know, Shatty. 732 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,839 Speaker 6: I'm sure Shotty's come up to him and give him 733 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 6: pat on the back and give him some confidence. 734 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 7: But for him to have to even come out that 735 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 7: was kind of harsh. 736 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 6: For someone like Shaddy to say those words, that's his 737 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 6: way of, you know, getting on somebody's case. 738 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 3: And I'm glad you cited Bucky Irving on it because 739 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 3: I was able to look up. 740 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 2: Okay. 741 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 3: Bucky Irving started his career at Minnesota and then transferred 742 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 3: to Oregon. Played at Oregon for two years and he 743 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 3: basically started for three years in college and he had 744 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 3: four hundred and seventy five carries in college and it 745 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: was two hundred and fourteen carries for Jayden. So just 746 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 3: as far as experience goes, yeah, we've got great expectations 747 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: for Jaden Blue. The only reason I say temporary your 748 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 3: enthusiasm right now is because he doesn't have that experience. 749 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: I mean, how long even you go back, go back 750 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 3: to the seventies, how long did it take before Tom 751 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: Landry trusted Tony Dorsett being on there? I mean he 752 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 3: didn't start for the first half of his rookie season 753 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 3: and he was a Heisman Trophy winner. 754 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 6: Coming and he was very vocal too, which is very 755 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 6: unusual for Dwayne Thomas well a player to come out 756 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 6: against Tom Langic. But now that Tony wasn't having any 757 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 6: of that, and eventually, you know Tom, I think Tom 758 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 6: when he did it, he wanted to know. He wants 759 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 6: to see what your reaction is. You know, how are 760 00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 6: you going to take this sitting down? 761 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 8: All? 762 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 2: You're going to take this sitting down? 763 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 6: And Dorset did not, and I bet I gave him 764 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 6: a a little bit of a confidence Indoorset and Bet 765 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 6: As far. 766 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 3: As this situation, I think that is the main reason 767 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 3: why they doubled up on veteran running backs. They knew 768 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 3: they were going to take a running back in the draft, 769 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 3: but they weren't going to because they weren't going to 770 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 3: get gent Okay, they weren't going to take one on 771 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 3: the first or second day, and so they took one 772 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 3: on the third day. And like, Miles Sanders, is your 773 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,959 Speaker 3: bridge to Jayden Blue? Now we'll see and maybe Jadon 774 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,760 Speaker 3: o'l you know, ball out. 775 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 2: And Bill Bill. 776 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 9: All I'm talking about is the last two seasons as 777 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 9: a Cowboy fan and the spectator of the sport and 778 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,240 Speaker 9: watching the Cowboys struggle with the running game, leave games 779 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 9: where they've only had forty six yards rushing and you 780 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 9: realize that the quarterback, the backup quarterback, no one can 781 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 9: be successful if you don't produce a running game. 782 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,280 Speaker 3: Looking for trying to find a replacement for Tony Pollard. 783 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, yes, and I'm talking about that's what that's. 784 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 3: What Jayden Blue has the potential of being Tony Pollard. 785 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 9: And the kind of production that Tony Pollard gave you 786 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 9: when he was paired with Zeke that was so much 787 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,399 Speaker 9: different from what you were getting. And that's and that's 788 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 9: what I'm asking for in this situation, because think of 789 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 9: how much better you can be. Miles Sanders was supposed 790 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 9: to present that, and I'm not saying that he hasn't 791 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 9: in total, I'm just saying, you got a younger guy 792 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 9: out here that has that potential. 793 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 6: Or potential use him because of his speed. 794 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 2: Use him. 795 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 6: And I do like Sanders, There's no doubt the bad. 796 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 6: I love his I love his game, I love his number, 797 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 6: I love everything about him. But if you can give me, 798 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 6: if you can show me that Blue can come out 799 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,959 Speaker 6: and instead of getting twelve yards, we can get twenty five. 800 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 3: Okay, And when we come back here on mixed Shots, 801 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 3: I get I get a little comparison with Tony Pollard's 802 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 3: numbers coming out of costumes. 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Tony Pollard coming out of Memphis. 849 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,840 Speaker 3: Darryl Henderson was their main back at Memphis in twenty eighteen, 850 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 3: he ran for nearly two thousand yards. Pollard, in his 851 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 3: last year at Memphis, only had seventy eight carries for 852 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 3: five hundred and fifty two yards and six touchdowns, caught 853 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 3: the ball thirty thirty nine catches, and he basically did 854 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 3: that all three years he was Memphis, around thirty five 855 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 3: catches a year, Okay, So then take that Ford and 856 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 3: Jayden Blue. So he had a total of one hundred 857 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 3: and thirty nine carries in college. Pollard did Jayden Blue, 858 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 3: two hundred and fourteen carries in Texas, okay, and Jayden Blue, 859 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 3: as we showed last year at Texas, caught the ball 860 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 3: a lot out of the backfieldings at six receiving touchdowns. 861 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 3: All right, take it forward now. Pollard his rookie year 862 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 3: with the Cowboys twenty nineteen, played in fifteen games, no starts, 863 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,280 Speaker 3: eighty six carries, four hundred and fifty five yards, fifteen 864 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 3: receptions one hundred and seven yards. It took time for 865 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 3: them to trust Tony Pollard too, and even his second 866 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 3: year he only had one hundred and one carries. And 867 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 3: so finally it was his fourth year in the league 868 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 3: when he went to the Pro Bowl in twenty twenty two. 869 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,400 Speaker 3: But it's just it's yeah, and you could see the 870 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 3: juice that he had. But still with veteran he had 871 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 3: Zeke on the roster. I can't remember who else was 872 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 3: running back on the roster then with the Cowboys in 873 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen. But anyway, it takes time for the rookie 874 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 3: a fourth round, which what Pollard was fifth round or 875 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 3: what blue is for them to get on the field. 876 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 6: What you have with Blue is I like to call 877 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 6: them long long handoff. Situations may not necessarily give him 878 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 6: the ball in the backfield, but you know, when you've 879 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,720 Speaker 6: got Turping lined up on this side, you take Turping 880 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 6: down the field and you flur out Blue and just 881 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 6: get it to him immediately. You can gas people for six, seven, 882 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,239 Speaker 6: maybe even more yards at a time. That kind of 883 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 6: stuff can help you pick up your pace, especially when 884 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 6: we go no huddle and you know we might be behind. 885 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 6: I think it just gives us a whole lot more 886 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 6: options and more speed, which is something we need right now, 887 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 6: especially with CD out for a while. I think it's 888 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 6: really important for him to step up now with CD 889 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 6: being gone. 890 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 9: This may not sound like a Javonte Williams appreciation podcast 891 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 9: because we're talking. 892 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 3: About it's just getting that sick. 893 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 894 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 9: I just feel like when I'm watching Cowboys football now 895 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 9: and I see thirty three in the backfield. It's a 896 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 9: different feeling. On third down, it's a different feeling seeing him. 897 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 9: When you need that possession, you know that he can 898 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 9: get it there. When you get down in the goal line, 899 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 9: you can. 900 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 7: Go thirty three and have confidence that you can get 901 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 7: that third and three with a run. 902 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,080 Speaker 9: And those were realities that you didn't have before. So 903 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 9: I absolutely love everything that Williams brings to us as 904 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 9: a running back, and I think right now, coming into 905 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 9: this matchup versus Jets, he should have a huge game, 906 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 9: as should guys like Jalen Tobert, as should guys like 907 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 9: Floor Noid guys like that because they can take advantage 908 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 9: of their matchups. Because of what George Pickens showed last week. 909 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 6: I am worried about our receivers coming up against a 910 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,000 Speaker 6: secondary that is known for a man to man Sauce 911 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 6: Garden is known for being a good cover man making 912 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 6: plays on the ball. 913 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 7: Like you said, a long dB. 914 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 6: If I were the Jets, I'm going to pressure my 915 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 6: wide receivers, the cowboy wide receivers every down because see 916 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,480 Speaker 6: these out double up pickings over here. Now, I want 917 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 6: to see what you guys can do. First of all, 918 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 6: y'all are undersized. You're undersized, So I'm going to pressure 919 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 6: you the whole game. I'm going to be in your 920 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 6: face the whole game. Give me pause. If I'm Dak Prescott, 921 00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,959 Speaker 6: you send a little pressure. Here comes your boy Williams right, 922 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 6: and all of a sudden you're looking at tight windows 923 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 6: to have to throw through. That's what happened in Chicago. 924 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 6: We didn't we didn't stick to the game plan. Interception 925 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 6: off the hands of Pickings. Things can go badly on 926 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 6: the road bill It does all the time. That's what 927 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:28,399 Speaker 6: concerns me about this is them putting the pressure and 928 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:33,240 Speaker 6: having us pay play at their tempo, which usually works 929 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 6: against the Cowboys on the road. 930 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 3: And you look at the mindset of the Jets circum 931 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,040 Speaker 3: this is the first three straight home games for them. 932 00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 3: They got Dallas this week, Denver next week, and then Carolina, 933 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 3: and if they can get this one, then especially with 934 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,359 Speaker 3: Carolina lurking, they can get back. 935 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 6: If you don't know that the Cowboys are the most 936 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 6: hated team on the road, then you'll find out. 937 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,399 Speaker 3: What was the last time. The last time Cowboys went 938 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 3: to New York to play the Jet. It's twenty nineteen, 939 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 3: ugly game twenty four to twenty two loss. 940 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been a while, but you go to met 941 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,400 Speaker 9: Life with the number one tight end in the NFL. 942 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 2: Send us out here, Bill. 943 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 3: All right, all right, and uh hec ma, you're gonna 944 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 3: be running the show to be tomorrow. I got, I got, 945 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 3: I got a warning air warning right there, and we 946 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 3: will shout at you again tomorrow at high noon. Here 947 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 3: on the return of mix Shots, Oh Cowboys. 948 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 949 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.