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Speaker 2: Oh Joe Tula says he won't wear a Guardian cap.
Speaker 2: Dolphins running back Dave davont E chan eight chan War
Speaker 2: one against the Cooles on Sunday in the return from
Speaker 2: a concussion, but Tula said he will not do the same.
Speaker 2: Tulla said if a personal choice when asked why he
Speaker 2: decided not to wear the X protection to was also
Speaker 2: asked about those who are concerned about him putting himself
Speaker 2: at risk of lasting problems due to brain injury. He said,
Speaker 2: there's a gray area in terms of what doctors believes
Speaker 2: in terms of long term impact of concussions, and playing
Speaker 2: football is what makes me happy and I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I appreciate your concern, I really do. I love this game.
Speaker 2: I love it to death. I love it to the
Speaker 2: depth of me.
Speaker 4: Hey, that's it, Hey, chat, let me, let me help,
Speaker 4: Let me help everybody. Yep, hey, chat, Listen to me
Speaker 4: real quick. And I'm not trying to be rude. I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to come off and insensitive. I understand he's
Speaker 4: had concussions. You know what you sign up for when
Speaker 4: you play a game of this magnitude that is as
Speaker 4: violent as it is. The Guardian cap. The fuck is
Speaker 4: the Guardian cap gonna do? I mean no disrespect, I
Speaker 4: mean no direspect the brain itself. Chat, y'all, stay with
Speaker 4: the brain itself. It sits in the ball of ball
Speaker 4: of fluid.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: No amount of extra padding externally, which is the Guardian cap,
Speaker 4: can fully protect players from concussions, especially if they've already
Speaker 4: had them multiple concussions. The brain is already damaged from
Speaker 4: crashing against the skull over and over and over, and
Speaker 4: there is no amount of protection, including a guardian cap
Speaker 4: that is going to protect the skull in general from the.
Speaker 1: Helmet the helmet impact.
Speaker 4: I mean, just the guardian cap, because still if you
Speaker 4: do get hit again, even with the guardian cap on,
Speaker 4: the ball of fluid is going to hit the skull
Speaker 4: and the same thing is going to happen.
Speaker 1: The same thing is going to happen.
Speaker 4: So this perceived notion that put the guardian cap on, Oh,
Speaker 4: it's going to prevent concussions.
Speaker 1: No the fuck, it's not.
Speaker 2: No, it's not going to prevent It's like just like
Speaker 2: you could wear your seat belt and still die in
Speaker 2: the craw crash, just like the air dislike the airbang,
Speaker 2: you can still die, but it does offer an extra
Speaker 2: layer of protections.
Speaker 1: Right right right, it's not all stand what you mean.
Speaker 4: But these players are moving at such a fast rate
Speaker 4: of speed on once that once your yarred up there,
Speaker 4: once your jarred up there, even with that guardian cap
Speaker 4: and that fluid and that and that that that brain
Speaker 4: hits the skull again, it's gonna be the same. It's
Speaker 4: gonna be it's gonna be the same thing.
Speaker 1: At the point.
Speaker 4: I don't think people people at home. I know you
Speaker 4: watch football and you see it. I'm not sure how
Speaker 4: close you've been to the game. Them mother moving fast
Speaker 4: as hell.
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah. The research says the Guardian caps have contributed
Speaker 2: to nearly fifty percent reduction and concussions. The cap can
Speaker 2: absorb at least ten percent of the force of a hit.
Speaker 2: According to NFL research, that temper center force makes a
Speaker 2: mad number difference.
Speaker 4: I ain't buying them numbers. Think, Hey, that's why they
Speaker 4: tell you to buckle up.
Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, Oh so you don't want that extra level
Speaker 2: protection and you want the extra level protection from the car.
Speaker 1: But now of your heir, Hey, you hear the numbers.
Speaker 4: Everybody threw the numbers out for the for the for
Speaker 4: the Guardian, for the Guardian cat Right, how did do
Speaker 4: the research research using them? So where the research coming at?
Speaker 2: You have?
Speaker 4: You have to do it on the players that are
Speaker 4: actually playing in the game and play a full with
Speaker 4: seventeen season huh.
Speaker 2: And practice and practice, man, everybody practices in them, don't.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. How much do the
Speaker 2: seat belt? How much does the seat belt reduce much?
Speaker 1: It does? Like no I'm not even I'm not even
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and play like that.
Speaker 4: I know multiple stories with the fact that they had
Speaker 4: their seat belt on and it's saved.
Speaker 1: They ass.
Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes guess what, uh, what's the guy that
Speaker 2: fought Oh, prof, he got thrown from his car, he'll
Speaker 2: have his seat bet on and he lived.
Speaker 1: God damn my mind. Aero Spence, Ero Spence.
Speaker 2: Yeah Arrow Aero Spence Junior. Yeah, think about it. A
Speaker 2: mouth piece helped cut down on concussions because you're biting
Speaker 2: down on something you didn't wear one. I didn't wear one.
Speaker 4: I got I got lucky. I got lucky. Let me
Speaker 4: knock on wood. Got lucky and fortunately I had one concussion.
Speaker 4: Remember that you saw that hit unk. I was knocked
Speaker 4: out on the field. Oh you got knocked out too. Yeah, Hey,
Speaker 4: you got knocked Remember.
Speaker 1: The skinny route. You ran a skinny route in the
Speaker 1: middle of the hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. I got hit in Minnesota, got
Speaker 2: knocked out. I got knocked out twice in Minnesota. I
Speaker 2: knocked myself out against the papers on Monday night. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw the highlight on Twitter.
Speaker 4: I at least, but I wonder what Brian, if anybody
Speaker 4: know where Brian Russell is safety that played with the
Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, that went up under my chin when I
Speaker 4: had that guy damn blonde mohawk that knocked me out.
Speaker 1: That was the one he got.
Speaker 2: He got you, He got me too. That's who got
Speaker 2: me in Minnesota back in two thousand and.
Speaker 1: You know what that's that's racist. That's that's that's racist.
Speaker 1: Because he got you and it got me.
Speaker 4: That means it's a mother pattern. Yeah, that's that's my dude,
Speaker 4: Brian Russell. I'm not sure where you are. I love you,
Speaker 4: I miss you, I appreciate you, and because of you,
Speaker 4: I am who I am today. And that's the one
Speaker 4: time I had a concussion on well two times Louis Delmis,
Speaker 4: remember Louis Delmis. I was boy, Yeah, he got me good.
Speaker 1: My head bounced right off the turf.
Speaker 4: All I saw, all I saw was black and I
Speaker 4: saw the little start, little dots.
Speaker 1: Oh, he got me good.
Speaker 2: He had Jamis for a couple of years, and you
Speaker 2: know Jamis could throw the ball, but he was just
Speaker 2: tur turnover prone. You can't win with o jo. You
Speaker 2: can't throw thirty interceptions. I don't care what type of
Speaker 2: numbers threw thirty.
Speaker 1: He was slinging a.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah to both teams. That's the problem you have,
Speaker 2: absolutely right, oh, Joe, he was legging it to both teams. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was the problem that he had. Uh. And so
Speaker 2: I just hope, I hope Mike Evans can get back soon.
Speaker 2: It seems to me that he has the least of
Speaker 2: the serious injuries between the two wide outs, Chris Godwin.
Speaker 2: It did not look good. Prayers up to Chris Godwin
Speaker 2: and his family. Hopefully, like I said, the X rays
Speaker 2: come back negative and everything works out. But it did
Speaker 2: not look good. Uh, And Todd Bowles got this is
Speaker 2: not the end of it. He's gonna have some explaining
Speaker 2: to do to the to the owner, the Glazier family, because, uh,
Speaker 2: there's a chance there's a chance that you know, hey,
Speaker 2: your neck and Necker with Atlanta. Atlanta is three and
Speaker 2: oh in the division.
Speaker 1: They're playing some good ball.
Speaker 4: Now, the Bucks playing some good ball too, you know,
Speaker 4: but you have to look at the opponent they played tonight.
Speaker 1: You know, the Buck was David I mean no, actually
Speaker 1: the Bucks was Golias.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Just just just to stay stay in context with the
Speaker 4: story and the god damn Ravens was David.
Speaker 2: I think the Ravens were favorite. With the Ravens favorite
Speaker 2: with the Ravens were favorite. O remember in the in
Speaker 2: the Store of Favor, favorite to be David. Yes, but
Speaker 2: but Goliaths was supposed to beat David. The Ravens in
Speaker 2: this situation were favorite to win the game. The Bucks
Speaker 2: were the underdogs at home.
Speaker 1: My bad. Hey, you get what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you try. Yeah, Labar Jackson and
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry ain't gonna be David, all right? Yeah? Uh
Speaker 2: they would we swallow joonah. How about that? The Bengals
Speaker 2: beat the Browns twenty one fourteen. Fans boot Desjoe Watson
Speaker 2: after he goes down what appears to be an achilles injury.
Speaker 2: Jamos appears pop. You can see it through the sock
Speaker 2: and the replay. It's just we we gotta go with
Speaker 2: the appears to be a serious achilles injury.
Speaker 1: Oh my bad, My bad, my bad. Okay, go ahead, okay.
Speaker 2: The Bengals win. Twenty one fourteen. James a healthy scratch,
Speaker 2: comes in as an emergency quarterback because uh, Drian Thompson
Speaker 2: he gets nicked. James was the emergency quarterback. He had
Speaker 2: to come in. Uh. He was five of eleven for
Speaker 2: sixty seven yards. Dorian Thompson was the level of twenty
Speaker 2: four for eighty two yards, and DeShawn was having a
Speaker 2: pretty good game. He was fifteen or seventeen for one
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight yards. But he can't seem to
Speaker 2: catch a break. Oh, Jo, you can't see you break.
Speaker 1: That's tough. That's tough.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's tough for him obviously. I mean, depending
Speaker 4: on who you are and how you've how you feel
Speaker 4: about Deshaun Watson the football player, the football player, you
Speaker 4: want to see him do well.
Speaker 1: You want to see him do well.
Speaker 4: Outside of that, obviously, you know the rumblings in the
Speaker 4: the booing of him being inured.
Speaker 2: I can't get down with that on you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you probably can't get down with that. But
Speaker 4: you have to understand, you know, we all we all
Speaker 4: treat things differently.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 4: It's hard to tell people how to react based on
Speaker 4: things that have happened in the past, that have occurred.
Speaker 1: So it's like, it's tough. It's tough. You know, people
Speaker 1: are aren't gonna aren't gonna forget that.
Speaker 2: I get all that, but somebody gets hurt and you
Speaker 2: applaud that. I don't believe it. I don't believe it.
Speaker 2: I look, they have the right. They paid their harder
Speaker 2: money because in the introduction when they he came out,
Speaker 2: they had Nick Chubb last. They booed him, they cheered
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb. I ain't got no problem. Man, you have
Speaker 2: the right. But when somebody gets injured for you to
Speaker 2: applaud that, I'm out. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Hey, but you know how people are like when you listen,
Speaker 4: they don't, man, listen if they ain't with you, excuse
Speaker 4: my language.
Speaker 1: It don't matter what it is.
Speaker 4: Hurt, you pass away.
Speaker 1: They don't care you're playing bad. They don't. They give
Speaker 1: two zero zero you know what. They don't care.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't care. You know a fan, you know
Speaker 4: how you know how fans are?
Speaker 2: Man? She I mean, I can. I can. I might
Speaker 2: dislike something or someone, right, but I'm not I'm gonna
Speaker 2: applaud mishap. I'm not gonna have unfortunates. Uh, somebody getting
Speaker 2: injured or you know somebody. Now you know people like that,
Speaker 2: Oh I'm happy? Huh yeah you happy? Nah?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't operate like that. No, matter what
Speaker 2: I think of somebody, I don't I don't wish death.
Speaker 1: On them, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't. And I don't wish injury on someone because
Speaker 2: it's like I just like I said, you paid your money,
Speaker 2: you want to boot a man, boot a man. But
Speaker 2: I I just there's never gonna be a situation on
Speaker 2: YO where somebody gets injured and I'm gonna.
Speaker 4: Be happy you clapping, Yeah, I just but again, you know,
Speaker 4: when it comes to fans, and you know how fans are,
Speaker 4: they're very fickle, very very ficle. Things haven't been going
Speaker 4: well in Cleveland, you know, for them, based on the
Speaker 4: quarterback play throughout the season this year, they probably wanted
Speaker 4: a change of the quarterback position and and just everything
Speaker 4: coming full circle and him going down, and I think
Speaker 4: with the frustration from the fans, and that's that's what
Speaker 4: we got to day. Obviously, the stuff that happened off
Speaker 4: the field didn't make it any better.
Speaker 2: Joe Joe Burrows fifteen to twenty five, two touchdowns, he
Speaker 2: got sacked three times. I mean, they he did oh Joe.
Speaker 2: They didn't do anything spectacular. I mean they had twenty
Speaker 2: things about O Joe. They had twenty five rushers for
Speaker 2: fifty nine yards. It was the turnovers that they got.
Speaker 2: They got a hundred yard kickoff return and they got
Speaker 2: a short fee. You know, Thompson turned the ball over twice.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't like they did anything spectacular. T Higgins
Speaker 2: had four for eighty two, Chase had five for fifty five.
Speaker 2: They both caught a touchdown, but that was it. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you look at it, twenty five twenty five. So
Speaker 2: again another fifty plus plays, which is crazy. Yeah, fifty plays,
Speaker 2: but it's not how many plays. It's making the plays
Speaker 2: that you have count. And when they got opportunities. Uh,
Speaker 2: Chase made a guy miss, called a quick pass, made
Speaker 2: the guy miss hit the same he's in the zone.
Speaker 2: Chase ran a great route, Joe threw a great ball touchdown,
Speaker 2: and you know, like I said, they got the hundred
Speaker 2: yard kick return to start the game.
Speaker 4: O Joe, Charlie Jones, yep, oh that first that first
Speaker 4: player on the inside that was that was a slam route,
Speaker 4: double double slamts. That was Tea and it was Chase
Speaker 4: that caught the fade on Greg Newsom. You say, you
Speaker 4: you saw he hit the tyrone and stepped on Uh,
Speaker 4: this is the brown the Brown got a real good
Speaker 4: defense man. I love I love I love miss Denzel
Speaker 4: Ward boy, I love that boy. Office it's bad and
Speaker 4: so so who's Jameis Winston is going to be the
Speaker 4: starter from now?
Speaker 2: I mean it all depends on Dorian Thompson.
Speaker 1: Here's the starter.
Speaker 2: We Dorian Thompson is healthy. He came in because.
Speaker 1: He remember Jameis Wilson was a healthy scrats today. He
Speaker 1: wasn't even dressed.
Speaker 2: He was the third quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so you know third quarterback one dressed?
Speaker 2: No, they dressed him.
Speaker 1: Let's bet bet five dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, DeShawn win it. I mean Thompson went in after that.
Speaker 2: Shawn got hurt, right.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying they win in the game with two quarterbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Jameis Winston was dressed to day, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying there's a reason why he wasn't. He wasn't dressed,
Speaker 2: O Joe, because you put him up. You put a
Speaker 2: third quarterback up. That means you got to take an
Speaker 2: offensive line of the defensive lineman. And unless jamis playing
Speaker 2: on running down to point a kickoff a kick kick return,
Speaker 2: we can't. We can't have him dressed.
Speaker 4: Now, So he who's he is going to be the
Speaker 4: starter or Drian Thompson gonna be the starter.
Speaker 2: Thompson got nicked. We don't know the significance of the injury.
Speaker 2: So once we find out he might he could be
Speaker 2: the starter. Because Thompson injury, it's so bad he might
Speaker 2: not be able to play. Then you have.
Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, I just thought about that. I'm tripping.
Speaker 1: So Drian Thompson was the second SEP.
Speaker 2: So there's a possibility if Thompson is nicked really good,
Speaker 2: really good or bad, however you want to look at it,
Speaker 2: he might not be able to play next week. And
Speaker 2: then you, I mean, you won't have any choice but
Speaker 2: to put James because we know Deshawn's not playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn it is.
Speaker 2: And and what's what's Cleveland? What you're thinking? What could
Speaker 2: have been? It's over? It's over, Joe.
Speaker 4: Hey you Oh my goodness, man, just like through the
Speaker 4: never mind. I don't want to talk about that. That
Speaker 4: that's it is. Seeing that thing pop, you know when
Speaker 4: they do it in stuff motion and you can see
Speaker 4: the vibration through the sock, the little ripple.
Speaker 1: Yep, I knew exactly what it was.
Speaker 2: But let's let's let's be real no, but Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: hadn't played well this year. O y'all? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, let's not. I mean, I understand what he
Speaker 2: was in Green Bay, but we haven't seen that yet
Speaker 2: with the Jets, and it's gonna be very interesting to
Speaker 2: see if he can get back. Now, do we do
Speaker 2: I expect him to be what he was in those
Speaker 2: MVP seasons. I don't know, Yae, I don't. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's no, no, I mean he's coming off an Achilles
Speaker 2: and he's forty years old.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But also when you have a web, when you have
Speaker 4: a weapon like that, you can count on every goddamn
Speaker 4: time if you look, if you've been watching the Just games,
Speaker 4: I've been watching the Jets games, like maybe you got
Speaker 4: you got a young bull like like seventeen men that
Speaker 4: can actually get open like that. I really think, even
Speaker 4: posts pre Achilles injury, he could always counting them boys
Speaker 4: to be over. But he had he had That's the
Speaker 4: reason he was able to win that m VP because
Speaker 4: he was able to he was able to get the
Speaker 4: ball to them, he was able to facilitate, and they
Speaker 4: were always open.
Speaker 1: He knew where everybody was gonna be.
Speaker 4: They were always in the right spot, there would be
Speaker 4: no mistakes like you saw the other night when he
Speaker 4: threw the ball to Mike Williams and Mike Wison wasn't
Speaker 4: on the red like that.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you got to eat out, You got to eat?
Speaker 2: Is there the little miscommunication? You don't. Yeah, now we
Speaker 2: get behind closed door, like, hey, you know, I'm expecting
Speaker 2: you to be x y right here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he released in side, but he never got back
Speaker 4: out if they if they planned to, and you got
Speaker 4: you got the go ball. If you're gonna release outside,
Speaker 4: get back out there to the red line.
Speaker 1: So the quarterback got somewhere to go with.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times you think during the course
Speaker 2: of the game a receiver runs the wrong route, quarterback
Speaker 2: has the wrong way, and we don't know about it
Speaker 2: because they don't discuss it. And then once we get
Speaker 2: behind closed doors, that's what we do. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: sure don't show me up John with the same John
Speaker 2: with the same way, with the same way. Hey, Manny,
Speaker 2: you heard pat Man. Quarterbacks? Hey, you understand. And they controlled,
Speaker 2: they controlled, They control the food on the table. Now
Speaker 2: almost they'll control whether you get to eat a lot
Speaker 2: or a little now how much you want to eat?
Speaker 2: Now you Oh, I'm.
Speaker 1: Okay, you better be careful, absolutely careful. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: just said that.
Speaker 4: I don't think this was Let me tell you how
Speaker 4: how I want chat chat those of you two to
Speaker 4: look at Look at my stats when you get the chance,
Speaker 4: look at my stats. I remember what year this was,
Speaker 4: but I was kind of disgruntled. I was kind of disgrundled,
Speaker 4: and I don't think I asked for a trade. It
Speaker 4: might have been Drew and just I kind of got
Speaker 4: sick of the media blaming me for the reason we
Speaker 4: were losing. So they were putting everything on me because
Speaker 4: obviously I was the one doing all, having all the
Speaker 4: fun and whatever. So they started to turn on me
Speaker 4: a little bit our own media in Cincinnati, and I said,
Speaker 4: you know what, well, hey, I.
Speaker 1: Want to trade, I want out something like that.
Speaker 4: And I remember the Reds excuse me, the Commanders at
Speaker 4: that time and Dan Snyder. They offered the Bengals a
Speaker 4: one for one and Mike Brown said no. Mike Brown
Speaker 4: said no, We're not going to set a precedent that
Speaker 4: a player can come in and say, okay, he's not
Speaker 4: happy and say, oh, you know what.
Speaker 2: I want, I want, I want to trade it.
Speaker 4: Nah, it ain't happening, So they turned that down, right.
Speaker 4: I'm just coming off a really good season despite me
Speaker 4: being discrunnel. I don't know what they did offensively or
Speaker 4: how they weren't able to get me the ball that
Speaker 4: particular year, all of a sudden, unk I had by
Speaker 4: five hundred yards? Is Cincinnati the whole season that year?
Speaker 4: The last year with you was oh no no, no,
Speaker 4: no no no. It's like I was coming off maybe
Speaker 4: a twelve hundred and thirteen yard season and then you know,
Speaker 4: I was getting the meeting was on my ass about
Speaker 4: us losing unk. There was nothing. I was healthy. I
Speaker 4: was completely healthy. I swear for god. If you look
Speaker 4: at my stats, you look at it, it's thousands, thousand,
Speaker 4: thou thousand, thousands, thousands, and all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 4: a five hundred yard season. I don't know if they
Speaker 4: found a way, like like to work me.
Speaker 1: Out the offense.
Speaker 4: I really had five hundred yards the whole season, and
Speaker 4: then the next season, I'm right back to twelve hundred right.
Speaker 1: Like in a sense, it was like, damn, are they
Speaker 1: that powerful? Where you know what?
Speaker 4: Oh, you want to play with us, Okay, we're gonna
Speaker 4: play with you the whole season. And I was scared
Speaker 4: to say anything because I already caused brookers and made
Speaker 4: noise in the off season, so I'm definitely not gonna
Speaker 4: do it in season because I'm already I'm already on
Speaker 4: thin ice in a sense, and I'm like, well, damn,
Speaker 4: they not even like I'm not even part of the offense.
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like. And I was still I
Speaker 1: was still that boy.
Speaker 4: I ain't know what the hell was. I ain't know
Speaker 4: what the hell was going on. So I just had
Speaker 4: to throw that story out there based on what you
Speaker 4: were just talking.
Speaker 2: Troy Aigman did not hold back when addressing the disappointment
Speaker 2: of the cow to the start of the Cowboys season CD,
Speaker 2: lambing the other Dallas wide receivers for their performances hold
Speaker 2: on through the first six game. I think the routes
Speaker 2: are terrible. I think they run terrible routes, and I've
Speaker 2: always thought that beyond this year, I think CD's got
Speaker 2: to improve, and it's route running. And as a quarterback,
Speaker 2: if you're not certain where the guys are going to
Speaker 2: be consistently, it's hard to play that position. I see
Speaker 2: guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage. Sometimes they run.
Speaker 2: If they do, it's because they're anticipating they're going to
Speaker 2: get the football on that play. But if they're not,
Speaker 2: they don't, and it all ties together. So I'm not
Speaker 2: impressed with that part of the game. Troy also talked
Speaker 2: about CD missing minicamp. I'm an old school guy. I
Speaker 2: just believe practice matters. So do I believe that having
Speaker 2: the team together matters. So do I. So if I
Speaker 2: knew I was going to be sign him anyway, I
Speaker 2: would have had to sign so he'd be working out
Speaker 2: with my quarterback and doing things that they should be doing.
Speaker 2: O Jo, You see, this is what I like, Ojoe.
Speaker 2: I like when Troy see I like whomen right. White
Speaker 2: quarterbacks say that because they don't get labored as haters
Speaker 2: are jealous. See when you and I say that, we
Speaker 2: if I have said the exact same thing. Oh you're
Speaker 2: a hater, you jealous? You bringing the black man. Now
Speaker 2: what y'all gonna say about Troy, I'm just jem to comments.
Speaker 2: What say say Troy, he's jealous, he a hater, he envious,
Speaker 2: because that's what y'all do when blacks. We try to
Speaker 2: offer critique for what we see having played the game.
Speaker 2: Y'all kill us, y'all beat us up. Now, what y'all
Speaker 2: gonna say about true, don't you? But CD was never
Speaker 2: O Joe. I never looked at CD as a rout
Speaker 2: right ce D is a guy that's tremendous, run after
Speaker 2: the cat. He's not a route runner. He's not technically
Speaker 2: sound like Jellal. He's not technically sound like Davonte. He's
Speaker 2: not a route runner. He's not like Tory Hole. He's
Speaker 2: not like m Teina mccardo. He's not like Jimmy Smith. He'
Speaker 2: not like you Oo. That's not what he is. And
Speaker 2: that's okay. But what I do agree with Troy is that, bro,
Speaker 2: even when you're not getting the ball, you got to
Speaker 2: bust your butt off the ball.
Speaker 4: I got the come on like the fact him singling
Speaker 4: out CD, him singing out that, I mean, I hear
Speaker 4: a lot of CD.
Speaker 1: There's CD, that CD CD. But hell, the goddamn defense
Speaker 1: is atrocious. The defense.
Speaker 4: The defense is atrocious. That's magnified. Now everything is magnified
Speaker 4: now because you're losing. So now when you're losing, everything
Speaker 4: is magnified. So now they nick picking every little goddamn thing.
Speaker 2: But you know that going in Oyo, what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You start to lose, They say you lose your help,
Speaker 2: You start to lose, got your locker room dirty. I
Speaker 2: told him, Jared, come about with we don't need him
Speaker 2: in practice. I said, you see, I said, see you say,
Speaker 2: I said, you say, I dumb that sound. Now you
Speaker 2: know you're gonna sign him or we're gonna get it.
Speaker 2: We knew he was gonna sign him. Why would you
Speaker 2: What do you mean he doesn't get anything at practice?
Speaker 2: Do you see the connection or the non connection that
Speaker 2: he and back has had for the first six games.
Speaker 4: Off a little bit you get you get that you
Speaker 4: no matter what y'all did the previous year, you have
Speaker 4: to get in the lab. You got to get in
Speaker 4: the lab and rebuild that chemistry all up again. You
Speaker 4: got to unplug your router, plug it back in and
Speaker 4: restart every season. You gotta do it, and you can't
Speaker 4: do it in the off season. When you just by
Speaker 4: yourself constructured environment with people on you, that's what that's
Speaker 4: when you get it done. And if you knew he
Speaker 4: was gonna sign him, why wait, why you did the
Speaker 4: same thing with goddamn Zeke.
Speaker 1: You did the same thing with Zeke.
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Are you serious about winning? Then you need all your
Speaker 4: players together. You need them all together when it counts
Speaker 4: and when it matters. Mini camp, training camp, all, see
Speaker 4: the workouts, come on, man.
Speaker 2: But but here's the thing, though, O Joe, is that
Speaker 2: we know Troy. Troy got in Mike's ass. He expected,
Speaker 2: he demanded excellent from Mike. So this is not but
Speaker 2: I just believe you got the whole guy's accounts. It
Speaker 2: is an absolute must. Now, I'm not telling what somebody
Speaker 2: told you told me to say. I'm telling you haven't
Speaker 2: been in situation. The standard is the standard, and we
Speaker 2: don't change that standard because of who you are. We
Speaker 2: play to the standard and whatever and whatever happens after that,
Speaker 2: we live with it. But we're not gonna come here.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no no no no no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no. When we hit that field, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: we had an expectation. I don't know how everybody else
Speaker 2: did it. But when we hit that feel in Denver.
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all listen, y'all was a well oil machine, right,
Speaker 4: y'all was a well, oil machine, well, oil machine.
Speaker 2: There was an expectation on y'all, right, there was an
Speaker 2: expectation that we had. We played to a standard. We
Speaker 2: know what was expect We knew what was expected of
Speaker 2: us from each an individual, each and every one of us.
Speaker 2: John had to play for We had a standard here, right,
Speaker 2: But John needed to play to his standard. Eighty four
Speaker 2: need to play to his standards. So the thirty so
Speaker 2: did eighty seventh and eighty. Everybody played to the standard, right,
Speaker 2: and then whatever happens after that. We lived with it.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't People think you get good in the game.
Speaker 2: You win the games Monday through Friday. Everything is tied together.
Speaker 2: Anybody that tells you that it's not don't play the
Speaker 2: game and they've never played the game. That's when you
Speaker 2: win the game. It's what you do in the meetings.
Speaker 2: How tendive are you in practice? Yeah? I know practice, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I need it. I need I just I just don't
Speaker 2: get these.
Speaker 1: Guys talk about talk about that.
Speaker 4: Have you seen the goddamn schedule for the Cowboys? The
Speaker 4: next three games? Hell, the next five in a row boy.
Speaker 4: It can it can get it can get ugly, it
Speaker 4: can get real ugly. I'm not sure what them. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure when the Marcus Lawrence comes back. I'm not
Speaker 4: sure how long how long he's out. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: how long Michael Parsons is out. But it can get
Speaker 4: ugly real fast for a team that's been twelve and
Speaker 4: five the past three seasons.
Speaker 2: Well, Michael's missed what Michael's missed the game? He's missed
Speaker 2: the game. So they're on a bye week, so three weeks.
Speaker 2: It all depends on how bad that how ankle spring
Speaker 2: is for him to come back. I don't know d
Speaker 2: loss injury. I don't know his injury, so I don't
Speaker 2: want to speak to like he's gonna be out another
Speaker 2: week or he's gonna come back. So I really don't know.
Speaker 2: But I know Michael has a high ankle spring, and
Speaker 2: I think by the time by the time the bides over,
Speaker 2: it'll be three weeks. So is it a four to
Speaker 2: six weeks? Is it? You know? Do they? If I'm him?
Speaker 2: Are you going to try to not look you're that's struggling.
Speaker 2: You try to get your best players back as soon
Speaker 2: as possible. But just know my number is depth. You
Speaker 2: know I came back and I.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't be able to use that against him though. I
Speaker 4: mean they can, but I doubt they would. He's the
Speaker 4: type of he's one of those players you kick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: I'm just I know.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't play with him like that.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: I could, I could have. I could have had him back.
Speaker 4: I could have had Michael Parson's back right after about
Speaker 4: two days after he spring is ankle, the high ankle
Speaker 4: spring with my remedy. But don't nobody listen to me. Hell,
Speaker 4: I could have healed Kawhi Leonard. You know he wouldn't
Speaker 4: miss no damn time.
Speaker 1: I got some for his need. I got some for him.
Speaker 2: Joe Ojo No, no, Ojoe no, No. I trusting I'm
Speaker 2: telling you you ain't got double for Whys done. Sunday
Speaker 2: was another rough outing for the Cleveland Browns offense, but
Speaker 2: there won't be any changes made to the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski told reporters Buddy that he won't be benched
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson and favorite Jameis Winston following the twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: lost to the Eagles. I think there were moments obviously
Speaker 2: that yesterday. I think DeShawn gives us the best chance
Speaker 2: to win to not winning continues to give us the
Speaker 2: best chance to win. And we need to play really
Speaker 2: good offensive football at the position and really at every
Speaker 2: other position.
Speaker 1: Do you think what you're thinking? What you're thinking?
Speaker 4: Now, let's let's let's think from a business a business standpoint.
Speaker 1: You understand how those owners are thinking.
Speaker 4: And you know seven seven Kevin Stefanski doesn't pull the
Speaker 4: strings on that puppet. If I'm paying somebody that kind
Speaker 4: of money, he's going to play even if things aren't
Speaker 4: going well. I'm gonna try to get my money's worth
Speaker 4: until i can't no more.
Speaker 2: I ain't paying I'm paying the guy forty five million.
Speaker 2: I'm paying the other guy five to seven million. It's like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense. Why would I do so?
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean, I mean why would they
Speaker 4: make a change. Why would they make a change? I
Speaker 4: mean him saying, him saying, Deshaun Watson gives us our
Speaker 4: best chance to win?
Speaker 1: Is he wrong or is he right?
Speaker 2: What you think? Do you think Jameis.
Speaker 4: Winston gives that Cleveland Brown is a better chance to
Speaker 4: win at the quarterback position.
Speaker 2: How about this? He gives me the best chance to
Speaker 2: win but you're not winning, So how good of a
Speaker 2: chance you think?
Speaker 4: Maybe it's the flat the flashes of brilliants that you see,
Speaker 4: just the flashes aren't as consistent as it used to be.
Speaker 2: He says, I think Deshaun gives us the best chance
Speaker 2: to win. Continue to give us the best chance to win,
Speaker 2: we need to play really good offensive football at his
Speaker 2: position and really good football at every other position to
Speaker 2: be successful. No crap, Sherlock. Yeah, wow, that is some
Speaker 2: that is That is some great coaches. That is, man,
Speaker 2: That is some motivational stuff right now. We need to
Speaker 2: quarterback to play good all the time.
Speaker 4: He has a ball in his hands every place, so
Speaker 4: his decision making and everything he decides to do with
Speaker 4: the ball impacts and affects everyone else around him, especially offensively,
Speaker 4: hell even defensively, because if you make mistakes, then they
Speaker 4: always don't the goddamn feel on the defensive.
Speaker 1: Side of the ball.
Speaker 4: H Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I say, I'm just saying
Speaker 4: I was asking your thoughts on what you think should
Speaker 4: they make a change, Yes, sir.
Speaker 2: Oho after three years? Yeah, I mean it's it's and
Speaker 2: I get it when you when you invest that kind
Speaker 2: of money, a lot of times. It's just like anything.
Speaker 2: It's just like with an investment. When you put a
Speaker 2: lot of money into an investment, OHO, it's hard to
Speaker 2: get off it. It's hard to get off it because
Speaker 2: you want to see something of giving in. You want
Speaker 2: to see some type of return on your investment. Sometimes
Speaker 2: you got to cut your lost.
Speaker 1: I got a question for you.
Speaker 4: I got a question for you, so fellas, that's in
Speaker 4: the chat that you listen to me. Now, think about
Speaker 4: this on much smaller terms.
Speaker 1: But think about it. You're dating a woman, you've been
Speaker 1: dating it.
Speaker 4: For two or three years, and you're thinking about all
Speaker 4: the money and everything you've invested in this individual, and
Speaker 4: you just and you keep on, you keep on trying,
Speaker 4: You keep on trying. The things just don't seem to
Speaker 4: be working out and going the way you'd like it
Speaker 4: to go in the right direction. But you keep thinking
Speaker 4: about all the time you spend, all the money you
Speaker 4: spend invested in this individual, are you gonna.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna shelf her? Are you gonna say? You
Speaker 1: know what, I don't want I don't want to do
Speaker 1: this no more?
Speaker 2: You know why? Let me tell you why. Because you
Speaker 2: don't want her to be what you think she can
Speaker 2: be with somebody else when you've invested all that in her. See,
Speaker 2: that's why a lot of teams don't want to get
Speaker 2: upset player, because what if he goes and be somewhere
Speaker 2: else what we thought he could be here? You done
Speaker 2: bought five, ten, fifteen, Yssale, Lewis, er Mas, Gucci bags, Bliinciaga.
Speaker 2: You don't, oh will she won't do right? Damn?
Speaker 1: But think about this. Think about this. What if you
Speaker 1: cut your losses to get.
Speaker 4: The bags and everything you bought because you can get
Speaker 4: that back right and then if she does leave and
Speaker 4: you get rid of that, think about it not being
Speaker 4: that's an expense that it is no longer.
Speaker 1: On your on your tab, it's no longer on your
Speaker 1: it's no longer on your plate. And that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. But a lot of
Speaker 2: people don't think like that because, like you said, you
Speaker 2: made a heavy investment. It's just like you buy a
Speaker 2: stop or you buy an investment property if you don't
Speaker 2: want to get off it on yo. Because you thought
Speaker 2: this was the run property. This was gonna be your Netflix,
Speaker 2: this was gonna be your Google, this was gonna be
Speaker 2: your Apple, your uber, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 4: That's the funny thing when that we always need to
Speaker 4: learn and understand everything we invest in. We're not gonna
Speaker 4: get a return on everything we invest in. We're not
Speaker 4: going to get a return on. So you have to
Speaker 4: know when to cut your losses. And it's okay because
Speaker 4: at some point that lost when you become somebody else's
Speaker 4: responsibility because they ain't doing right by you.
Speaker 1: Nine times out of ten, they gonna do right by
Speaker 1: the next month either. So if a certain individual, if
Speaker 1: a certain player looks a certain.
Speaker 4: Way, it ain't like all of a sudden they're gonna
Speaker 4: go to another team and they're gonna be magic and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden turn around and be somebody else
Speaker 4: that they're not.
Speaker 2: Dimigo Ryan says Jordan Love will be the best QB
Speaker 2: we faced despite playing Josh Allen. Bill's fans are taking
Speaker 2: these quotes very serious. Many feel that Josh Allen the
Speaker 2: second best quarterback in the league behind Patrick mahowns me. Personally,
Speaker 2: I'll take Lamar Jackson, but that's another story. O Jo.
Speaker 2: Do you believe that Jordan Love will be the best
Speaker 2: quarterback that the Texans have faced, even though they do
Speaker 2: have Josh Allen, Yeah, on their resume.
Speaker 4: Probably I think Josh Allen Josh Allen is very good
Speaker 4: and see his resume speaks for herself, despite.
Speaker 1: Obviously the turnovers. But he's good.
Speaker 4: You can see what he's doing now and being Superman,
Speaker 4: not having elite players around him, but still getting the
Speaker 4: job done.
Speaker 1: But Jordan Love is really good. Jordan Love is really good.
Speaker 4: Jordan Love to me is in the same bracket in
Speaker 4: a sense with Jayden Daniels with a CJ. Stroud, with
Speaker 4: a Lamar Jackson. You know, he's somewhat He's also a
Speaker 4: dual threat quarterback. He can run, he can run, he
Speaker 4: can throw, make all the throws. And to be young
Speaker 4: as he is, he's very promising, which is why they
Speaker 4: paid him what they did.
Speaker 1: And I mean I agree with him. I agree with
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is really really, really good, really good. And
Speaker 1: the funny thing.
Speaker 4: About it is is you'd have to be a football fan,
Speaker 4: not a casual fan of the game. You'd have to
Speaker 4: be a football fan to understand how good Jordan Love
Speaker 4: is and actually watch those Packers games.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, I take my first I
Speaker 2: don't put anybody next to him because you see what
Speaker 2: he's done in this six years or starting is off
Speaker 2: the charge. I mean, you don't get the four super
Speaker 2: Bowls in six years, you win three with two MVPs,
Speaker 2: three super Bowl MVP's. That's that's beyond what breakdown. Brady
Speaker 2: has more. But if you look at Brady's first six years,
Speaker 2: and you look at his first year six years, you
Speaker 2: look at Brady Brady, they were a defensive team. Brady
Speaker 2: wasn't asked to do what Mahme boy's doing, but yeah,
Speaker 2: he's phenomenal. I would take Lamar Jackson as my second
Speaker 2: quarterback behind Mahomes over Burrow and Josh Allen. But I
Speaker 2: can see people saying Burrow. I can see people saying
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, maybe cj Jordan love Purdy, whatever the case
Speaker 2: may be. But one two for me is Mahomes and Lamar.
Speaker 1: So hold on, hold on.
Speaker 4: Now, who are our top five? So we got we
Speaker 4: got we got Burrow first, you got Lamar are? So
Speaker 4: what Josh Allen third? Is Josh on that list?
Speaker 2: Hello?
Speaker 1: No? I said, I said my homes.
Speaker 2: You got Borough first in front of who my home?
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I'm just.
Speaker 4: So, I mean, like, talk to me real quickly your
Speaker 4: top five based on who you who would say if
Speaker 4: they would ask you, so you have you have Josh
Speaker 4: Allen second before Lamar.
Speaker 2: Okay, I would take no, I would take Lamar's second,
Speaker 2: I would take h I would take I would take
Speaker 2: Josh third, Borough four, and I would take I think
Speaker 2: I would take I think I would take.
Speaker 1: You put Josh Allen in front the borough though. I'm
Speaker 1: just curious.
Speaker 2: That I would take your preference. Take Josh. See how
Speaker 2: I did it? Okay? Uh? Yeah, I mean if look,
Speaker 2: I think once you get like, once you get past
Speaker 2: the first two, I think you're kind of splitting hairs
Speaker 2: with Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and uh and CJ. I
Speaker 2: think I know CJ is only his second year in
Speaker 2: the league, but I don't see a situation where he regresses.
Speaker 2: I only see situations where he get improves. Jordan Love
Speaker 2: is Jordan Loves and people like man, you you're talking
Speaker 2: about Jeordane Love over Dak. Yeah, I'll take Jordan Love
Speaker 2: over Dak. I'll take c J. Stroud over that too.
Speaker 2: But you know the thing is, most of the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: you can go week to week. I think the top
Speaker 2: two are kind of set because Josh Allen Burrow one
Speaker 2: of them players, Jerry Darkins played as good as anybody.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, I think like it can go week
Speaker 2: the week, like most positions can go week the week.
Speaker 2: I think when you look at what Mahomes has done
Speaker 2: his body of work, not at the end of the year,
Speaker 2: we could say does he still does he still deserve
Speaker 2: to be the number one quarterback?
Speaker 4: Probably because this is what we see for Mahomes every year,
Speaker 4: especially in the beginning of the season.
Speaker 1: It always looks like this.
Speaker 4: The numbers aren't staggering, it's not crazy, but all of
Speaker 4: a sudden when it matters most Guess who always comes
Speaker 4: through in the clutch.
Speaker 1: Guess who every time?
Speaker 4: Every time, at some point he's gonna have three four hundred,
Speaker 4: five hundred yard games. They're gonna come. They're not gonna
Speaker 4: come right now. For some reason, they never come.
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2: For them.
Speaker 4: It's always something that's always an issue with the offense
Speaker 4: or the balls being dropped. There's there, there's no receivers
Speaker 4: and nobody they're not catching the balls.
Speaker 1: That's what it was last year.
Speaker 4: This year injury she rices out Juju goddamn Juju steps up,
Speaker 4: has a hell of a game, Travis Kelsey gets going late.
Speaker 2: It's always remember remember the Patriots said, nah, we ain't
Speaker 2: got no use for Juju.
Speaker 4: Wrong system comes, she goes out. Juju comes in thirty
Speaker 4: off the rip. That's that fast, just that fast.
Speaker 2: But quarterbacks and take receiver to make them look really
Speaker 2: really good. That's what that's what that's what the really
Speaker 2: good ones can do. But the quarterback it's so hard,
Speaker 2: o Joe, because any given a week, you're like, I
Speaker 2: take Jared Goff, No, I take Josh Allen, No I
Speaker 2: take c j no I take I'll take Jordan Love, No,
Speaker 2: I take Joe, I take Josh. And I mean you
Speaker 2: we seen pretty deal where you're like that boy funny.
Speaker 4: I always think about when you think about the top
Speaker 4: five chat whoever your top five players are. I always
Speaker 4: think about it. Forget the stats, we get the numbers
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. I know all that matters, But
Speaker 4: if you were to put them on any other team,
Speaker 4: would they still be able to be efficient and be
Speaker 4: productive regardless to where they went, regards to who was
Speaker 4: at their disposal? As far as weapons are concerned, could
Speaker 4: they still wheel and deal without.
Speaker 2: Being boy I showed can you imagine a home with
Speaker 2: with Chase and Higgins? Can you imagine here? What can
Speaker 2: you imagine here with Waddle Tyreek and.
Speaker 1: Listen?
Speaker 2: Or you put him in San Francisco with that running game,
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, Kittle, dee Bo and bad Look some guy.
Speaker 2: Is that they are a system. They defined, they defied
Speaker 2: whatever you're doing. They are above it, and they'll they'll
Speaker 2: elevate whatever whatever you have.
Speaker 1: Very few can do that.
Speaker 2: That's different, elevating.
Speaker 1: Very few of that the quarterback position can do that.
Speaker 1: There's maybe two or three that can do that. No
Speaker 1: matter what situations they go to, they can elevate it.
Speaker 1: The volume