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Speaker 2: Oh Joe Tula says he won't wear a Guardian cap.

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Speaker 2: Dolphins running back Dave davont E chan eight chan War

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Speaker 2: one against the Cooles on Sunday in the return from

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Speaker 2: a concussion, but Tula said he will not do the same.

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Speaker 2: Tulla said if a personal choice when asked why he

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Speaker 2: decided not to wear the X protection to was also

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Speaker 2: asked about those who are concerned about him putting himself

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Speaker 2: at risk of lasting problems due to brain injury. He said,

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Speaker 2: there's a gray area in terms of what doctors believes

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Speaker 2: in terms of long term impact of concussions, and playing

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Speaker 2: football is what makes me happy and I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate your concern, I really do. I love this game.

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Speaker 2: I love it to death. I love it to the

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Speaker 4: Hey, that's it, Hey, chat, let me, let me help,

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Speaker 4: Let me help everybody. Yep, hey, chat, Listen to me

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Speaker 4: real quick. And I'm not trying to be rude. I'm

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Speaker 4: not trying to come off and insensitive. I understand he's

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Speaker 4: had concussions. You know what you sign up for when

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Speaker 4: you play a game of this magnitude that is as

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Speaker 4: violent as it is. The Guardian cap. The fuck is

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Speaker 4: the Guardian cap gonna do? I mean no disrespect, I

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Speaker 4: mean no direspect the brain itself. Chat, y'all, stay with

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Speaker 4: the brain itself. It sits in the ball of ball

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Speaker 4: of fluid.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: No amount of extra padding externally, which is the Guardian cap,

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Speaker 4: can fully protect players from concussions, especially if they've already

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Speaker 4: had them multiple concussions. The brain is already damaged from

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Speaker 4: crashing against the skull over and over and over, and

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Speaker 4: there is no amount of protection, including a guardian cap

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Speaker 4: that is going to protect the skull in general from the.

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Speaker 1: Helmet the helmet impact.

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Speaker 4: I mean, just the guardian cap, because still if you

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Speaker 4: do get hit again, even with the guardian cap on,

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Speaker 4: the ball of fluid is going to hit the skull

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Speaker 4: and the same thing is going to happen.

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Speaker 1: The same thing is going to happen.

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Speaker 4: So this perceived notion that put the guardian cap on, Oh,

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Speaker 4: it's going to prevent concussions.

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Speaker 1: No the fuck, it's not.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not going to prevent It's like just like

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Speaker 2: you could wear your seat belt and still die in

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Speaker 2: the craw crash, just like the air dislike the airbang,

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Speaker 2: you can still die, but it does offer an extra

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Speaker 1: Right right right, it's not all stand what you mean.

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Speaker 4: But these players are moving at such a fast rate

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Speaker 4: of speed on once that once your yarred up there,

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Speaker 4: once your jarred up there, even with that guardian cap

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Speaker 4: and that fluid and that and that that that brain

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Speaker 1: At the point.

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Speaker 4: I don't think people people at home. I know you

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Speaker 4: watch football and you see it. I'm not sure how

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Speaker 4: close you've been to the game. Them mother moving fast

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Speaker 2: Man. Yeah. The research says the Guardian caps have contributed

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Speaker 2: to nearly fifty percent reduction and concussions. The cap can

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Speaker 2: absorb at least ten percent of the force of a hit.

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Speaker 2: According to NFL research, that temper center force makes a

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Speaker 4: I ain't buying them numbers. Think, Hey, that's why they

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Speaker 2: Wow. Wow, Oh so you don't want that extra level

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Speaker 1: But now of your heir, Hey, you hear the numbers.

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Speaker 4: Everybody threw the numbers out for the for the for

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Speaker 4: the Guardian, for the Guardian cat Right, how did do

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Speaker 4: the research research using them? So where the research coming at?

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Speaker 2: You have?

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Speaker 4: You have to do it on the players that are

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Speaker 4: seventeen season huh.

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Speaker 2: And practice and practice, man, everybody practices in them, don't.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. How much do the

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Speaker 2: seat belt? How much does the seat belt reduce much?

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Speaker 1: It does? Like no I'm not even I'm not even

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Speaker 4: I know multiple stories with the fact that they had

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Speaker 1: They ass.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and sometimes guess what, uh, what's the guy that

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Speaker 2: fought Oh, prof, he got thrown from his car, he'll

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Speaker 2: have his seat bet on and he lived.

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Speaker 1: God damn my mind. Aero Spence, Ero Spence.

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Speaker 2: Yeah Arrow Aero Spence Junior. Yeah, think about it. A

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Speaker 2: mouth piece helped cut down on concussions because you're biting

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Speaker 2: down on something you didn't wear one. I didn't wear one.

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Speaker 4: I got I got lucky. I got lucky. Let me

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Speaker 4: knock on wood. Got lucky and fortunately I had one concussion.

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Speaker 4: Remember that you saw that hit unk. I was knocked

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Speaker 4: out on the field. Oh you got knocked out too. Yeah, Hey,

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Speaker 4: you got knocked Remember.

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Speaker 1: The skinny route. You ran a skinny route in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the hell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. I got hit in Minnesota, got

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Speaker 2: knocked myself out against the papers on Monday night. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I saw the highlight on Twitter.

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Speaker 4: I at least, but I wonder what Brian, if anybody

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Speaker 4: know where Brian Russell is safety that played with the

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Speaker 4: Cleveland Browns, that went up under my chin when I

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Speaker 4: had that guy damn blonde mohawk that knocked me out.

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Speaker 1: That was the one he got.

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Speaker 2: He got you, He got me too. That's who got

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Speaker 2: me in Minnesota back in two thousand and.

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Speaker 1: You know what that's that's racist. That's that's that's racist.

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Speaker 1: Because he got you and it got me.

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Speaker 4: That means it's a mother pattern. Yeah, that's that's my dude,

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Speaker 4: Brian Russell. I'm not sure where you are. I love you,

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Speaker 4: I miss you, I appreciate you, and because of you,

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Speaker 4: I am who I am today. And that's the one

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Speaker 4: time I had a concussion on well two times Louis Delmis,

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Speaker 4: remember Louis Delmis. I was boy, Yeah, he got me good.

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Speaker 1: My head bounced right off the turf.

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Speaker 4: All I saw, all I saw was black and I

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Speaker 1: Oh, he got me good.

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Speaker 2: He had Jamis for a couple of years, and you

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Speaker 2: know Jamis could throw the ball, but he was just

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Speaker 2: tur turnover prone. You can't win with o jo. You

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Speaker 2: can't throw thirty interceptions. I don't care what type of

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Speaker 1: He was slinging a.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah to both teams. That's the problem you have,

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Speaker 2: absolutely right, oh, Joe, he was legging it to both teams. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I just hope, I hope Mike Evans can get back soon.

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Speaker 2: It seems to me that he has the least of

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Speaker 2: the serious injuries between the two wide outs, Chris Godwin.

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Speaker 2: It did not look good. Prayers up to Chris Godwin

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Speaker 2: and his family. Hopefully, like I said, the X rays

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Speaker 2: not look good. Uh, And Todd Bowles got this is

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Speaker 2: not the end of it. He's gonna have some explaining

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Speaker 2: to do to the to the owner, the Glazier family, because, uh,

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Speaker 2: there's a chance there's a chance that you know, hey,

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Speaker 2: your neck and Necker with Atlanta. Atlanta is three and

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Speaker 2: oh in the division.

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Speaker 1: They're playing some good ball.

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Speaker 4: Now, the Bucks playing some good ball too, you know,

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Speaker 4: but you have to look at the opponent they played tonight.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Buck was David I mean no, actually

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Speaker 1: the Bucks was Golias.

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Speaker 2: I think the Ravens were favorite. With the Ravens favorite

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Speaker 2: the Store of Favor, favorite to be David. Yes, but

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Speaker 2: but Goliaths was supposed to beat David. The Ravens in

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Speaker 2: were the underdogs at home.

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Speaker 1: My bad. Hey, you get what I'm trying to say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get what you try. Yeah, Labar Jackson and

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Speaker 2: Derrick Henry ain't gonna be David, all right? Yeah? Uh

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Speaker 2: they would we swallow joonah. How about that? The Bengals

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Speaker 2: beat the Browns twenty one fourteen. Fans boot Desjoe Watson

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Speaker 2: after he goes down what appears to be an achilles injury.

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Speaker 2: Jamos appears pop. You can see it through the sock

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Speaker 2: the appears to be a serious achilles injury.

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Speaker 1: Oh my bad, My bad, my bad. Okay, go ahead, okay.

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Speaker 2: The Bengals win. Twenty one fourteen. James a healthy scratch,

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Speaker 2: four for eighty two yards, and DeShawn was having a

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Speaker 2: pretty good game. He was fifteen or seventeen for one

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Speaker 2: catch a break. Oh, Jo, you can't see you break.

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Speaker 1: That's tough. That's tough.

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Speaker 4: That's that's that's tough for him obviously. I mean, depending

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Speaker 4: about Deshaun Watson the football player, the football player, you

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Speaker 4: want to see him do well.

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Speaker 1: You want to see him do well.

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Speaker 4: the booing of him being inured.

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Speaker 2: I can't get down with that on you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you probably can't get down with that. But

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Speaker 2: They didn't do anything spectacular. I mean they had twenty

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Speaker 2: He was the third quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so you know third quarterback one dressed?

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Speaker 1: Let's bet bet five dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, DeShawn win it. I mean Thompson went in after that.

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Speaker 4: Now, So he who's he is going to be the

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Speaker 2: And and what's what's Cleveland? What you're thinking? What could

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Speaker 4: Hey you Oh my goodness, man, just like through the

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Speaker 4: never mind. I don't want to talk about that. That

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Speaker 1: Yep, I knew exactly what it was.

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Speaker 2: But let's let's let's be real no, but Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: I expect him to be what he was in those

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Speaker 2: Oh Joe, you got to eat out, You got to eat?

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Speaker 2: Is there the little miscommunication? You don't. Yeah, now we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he released in side, but he never got back

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Speaker 2: Now you Oh, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you better be careful, absolutely careful. I'm glad you

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Speaker 4: I'm just coming off a really good season despite me

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Speaker 1: Out the offense.

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Speaker 4: thin ice in a sense, and I'm like, well, damn,

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00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 4: they not even like I'm not even part of the offense.

438
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like. And I was still I

439
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 1: was still that boy.

440
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 4: I ain't know what the hell was. I ain't know

441
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 4: what the hell was going on. So I just had

442
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 4: to throw that story out there based on what you

443
00:22:59,480 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 4: were just talking.

444
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 2: Troy Aigman did not hold back when addressing the disappointment

445
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: of the cow to the start of the Cowboys season CD,

446
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: lambing the other Dallas wide receivers for their performances hold

447
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 2: on through the first six game. I think the routes

448
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 2: are terrible. I think they run terrible routes, and I've

449
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: always thought that beyond this year, I think CD's got

450
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 2: to improve, and it's route running. And as a quarterback,

451
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: if you're not certain where the guys are going to

452
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: be consistently, it's hard to play that position. I see

453
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 2: guys lazy coming off the line of scrimmage. Sometimes they run.

454
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 2: If they do, it's because they're anticipating they're going to

455
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: get the football on that play. But if they're not,

456
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: they don't, and it all ties together. So I'm not

457
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: impressed with that part of the game. Troy also talked

458
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: about CD missing minicamp. I'm an old school guy. I

459
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 2: just believe practice matters. So do I believe that having

460
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: the team together matters. So do I. So if I

461
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: knew I was going to be sign him anyway, I

462
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: would have had to sign so he'd be working out

463
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 2: with my quarterback and doing things that they should be doing.

464
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 2: O Jo, You see, this is what I like, Ojoe.

465
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 2: I like when Troy see I like whomen right. White

466
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks say that because they don't get labored as haters

467
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 2: are jealous. See when you and I say that, we

468
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: if I have said the exact same thing. Oh you're

469
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: a hater, you jealous? You bringing the black man. Now

470
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: what y'all gonna say about Troy, I'm just jem to comments.

471
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 2: What say say Troy, he's jealous, he a hater, he envious,

472
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: because that's what y'all do when blacks. We try to

473
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,880
Speaker 2: offer critique for what we see having played the game.

474
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: Y'all kill us, y'all beat us up. Now, what y'all

475
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: gonna say about true, don't you? But CD was never

476
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 2: O Joe. I never looked at CD as a rout

477
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 2: right ce D is a guy that's tremendous, run after

478
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: the cat. He's not a route runner. He's not technically

479
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: sound like Jellal. He's not technically sound like Davonte. He's

480
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 2: not a route runner. He's not like Tory Hole. He's

481
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: not like m Teina mccardo. He's not like Jimmy Smith. He'

482
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: not like you Oo. That's not what he is. And

483
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 2: that's okay. But what I do agree with Troy is that, bro,

484
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 2: even when you're not getting the ball, you got to

485
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: bust your butt off the ball.

486
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 4: I got the come on like the fact him singling

487
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 4: out CD, him singing out that, I mean, I hear

488
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 4: a lot of CD.

489
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: There's CD, that CD CD. But hell, the goddamn defense

490
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: is atrocious. The defense.

491
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: The defense is atrocious. That's magnified. Now everything is magnified

492
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 4: now because you're losing. So now when you're losing, everything

493
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: is magnified. So now they nick picking every little goddamn thing.

494
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: But you know that going in Oyo, what's gonna happen.

495
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: You start to lose, They say you lose your help,

496
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 2: You start to lose, got your locker room dirty. I

497
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: told him, Jared, come about with we don't need him

498
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: in practice. I said, you see, I said, see you say,

499
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 2: I said, you say, I dumb that sound. Now you

500
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: know you're gonna sign him or we're gonna get it.

501
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: We knew he was gonna sign him. Why would you

502
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: What do you mean he doesn't get anything at practice?

503
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: Do you see the connection or the non connection that

504
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 2: he and back has had for the first six games.

505
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 4: Off a little bit you get you get that you

506
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: no matter what y'all did the previous year, you have

507
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 4: to get in the lab. You got to get in

508
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 4: the lab and rebuild that chemistry all up again. You

509
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 4: got to unplug your router, plug it back in and

510
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 4: restart every season. You gotta do it, and you can't

511
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 4: do it in the off season. When you just by

512
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 4: yourself constructured environment with people on you, that's what that's

513
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 4: when you get it done. And if you knew he

514
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: was gonna sign him, why wait, why you did the

515
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 4: same thing with goddamn Zeke.

516
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: You did the same thing with Zeke.

517
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 2: Thank you?

518
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 4: Are you serious about winning? Then you need all your

519
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 4: players together. You need them all together when it counts

520
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: and when it matters. Mini camp, training camp, all, see

521
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 4: the workouts, come on, man.

522
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 2: But but here's the thing, though, O Joe, is that

523
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: we know Troy. Troy got in Mike's ass. He expected,

524
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 2: he demanded excellent from Mike. So this is not but

525
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: I just believe you got the whole guy's accounts. It

526
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: is an absolute must. Now, I'm not telling what somebody

527
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: told you told me to say. I'm telling you haven't

528
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 2: been in situation. The standard is the standard, and we

529
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: don't change that standard because of who you are. We

530
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: play to the standard and whatever and whatever happens after that,

531
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: we live with it. But we're not gonna come here.

532
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no no no no no, no, no,

533
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: no no no. When we hit that field, yes, sir,

534
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: we had an expectation. I don't know how everybody else

535
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 2: did it. But when we hit that feel in Denver.

536
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, y'all listen, y'all was a well oil machine, right,

537
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 4: y'all was a well, oil machine, well, oil machine.

538
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: There was an expectation on y'all, right, there was an

539
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: expectation that we had. We played to a standard. We

540
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: know what was expect We knew what was expected of

541
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: us from each an individual, each and every one of us.

542
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,479
Speaker 2: John had to play for We had a standard here, right,

543
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: But John needed to play to his standard. Eighty four

544
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: need to play to his standards. So the thirty so

545
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: did eighty seventh and eighty. Everybody played to the standard, right,

546
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: and then whatever happens after that. We lived with it.

547
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: But it wasn't People think you get good in the game.

548
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: You win the games Monday through Friday. Everything is tied together.

549
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: Anybody that tells you that it's not don't play the

550
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: game and they've never played the game. That's when you

551
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: win the game. It's what you do in the meetings.

552
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: How tendive are you in practice? Yeah? I know practice, Yeah,

553
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: I need it. I need I just I just don't

554
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: get these.

555
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: Guys talk about talk about that.

556
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 4: Have you seen the goddamn schedule for the Cowboys? The

557
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: next three games? Hell, the next five in a row boy.

558
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: It can it can get it can get ugly, it

559
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: can get real ugly. I'm not sure what them. I'm

560
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: not sure when the Marcus Lawrence comes back. I'm not

561
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: sure how long how long he's out. I'm not sure

562
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 4: how long Michael Parsons is out. But it can get

563
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 4: ugly real fast for a team that's been twelve and

564
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: five the past three seasons.

565
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: Well, Michael's missed what Michael's missed the game? He's missed

566
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: the game. So they're on a bye week, so three weeks.

567
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: It all depends on how bad that how ankle spring

568
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: is for him to come back. I don't know d

569
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: loss injury. I don't know his injury, so I don't

570
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: want to speak to like he's gonna be out another

571
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: week or he's gonna come back. So I really don't know.

572
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: But I know Michael has a high ankle spring, and

573
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: I think by the time by the time the bides over,

574
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: it'll be three weeks. So is it a four to

575
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: six weeks? Is it? You know? Do they? If I'm him?

576
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 2: Are you going to try to not look you're that's struggling.

577
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: You try to get your best players back as soon

578
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: as possible. But just know my number is depth. You

579
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: know I came back and I.

580
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 4: Wouldn't be able to use that against him though. I

581
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 4: mean they can, but I doubt they would. He's the

582
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 4: type of he's one of those players you kick.

583
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying.

584
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: I'm just I know.

585
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't play with him like that.

586
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 2: Shit.

587
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,719
Speaker 1: I could, I could have. I could have had him back.

588
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: I could have had Michael Parson's back right after about

589
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 4: two days after he spring is ankle, the high ankle

590
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 4: spring with my remedy. But don't nobody listen to me. Hell,

591
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 4: I could have healed Kawhi Leonard. You know he wouldn't

592
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: miss no damn time.

593
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: I got some for his need. I got some for him.

594
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: Joe Ojo No, no, Ojoe no, No. I trusting I'm

595
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: telling you you ain't got double for Whys done. Sunday

596
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: was another rough outing for the Cleveland Browns offense, but

597
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: there won't be any changes made to the quarterback position.

598
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: Kevin Stefanski told reporters Buddy that he won't be benched

599
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson and favorite Jameis Winston following the twenty sixteen

600
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: lost to the Eagles. I think there were moments obviously

601
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 2: that yesterday. I think DeShawn gives us the best chance

602
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: to win to not winning continues to give us the

603
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: best chance to win. And we need to play really

604
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: good offensive football at the position and really at every

605
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: other position.

606
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: Do you think what you're thinking? What you're thinking?

607
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 4: Now, let's let's let's think from a business a business standpoint.

608
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: You understand how those owners are thinking.

609
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: And you know seven seven Kevin Stefanski doesn't pull the

610
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 4: strings on that puppet. If I'm paying somebody that kind

611
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 4: of money, he's going to play even if things aren't

612
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: going well. I'm gonna try to get my money's worth

613
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 4: until i can't no more.

614
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: I ain't paying I'm paying the guy forty five million.

615
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: I'm paying the other guy five to seven million. It's like,

616
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense. Why would I do so?

617
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean, I mean why would they

618
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 4: make a change. Why would they make a change? I

619
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 4: mean him saying, him saying, Deshaun Watson gives us our

620
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 4: best chance to win?

621
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: Is he wrong or is he right?

622
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: What you think? Do you think Jameis.

623
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: Winston gives that Cleveland Brown is a better chance to

624
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 4: win at the quarterback position.

625
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: How about this? He gives me the best chance to

626
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: win but you're not winning, So how good of a

627
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: chance you think?

628
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: Maybe it's the flat the flashes of brilliants that you see,

629
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: just the flashes aren't as consistent as it used to be.

630
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: He says, I think Deshaun gives us the best chance

631
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: to win. Continue to give us the best chance to win,

632
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: we need to play really good offensive football at his

633
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: position and really good football at every other position to

634
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: be successful. No crap, Sherlock. Yeah, wow, that is some

635
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: that is That is some great coaches. That is, man,

636
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: That is some motivational stuff right now. We need to

637
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: quarterback to play good all the time.

638
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 4: He has a ball in his hands every place, so

639
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: his decision making and everything he decides to do with

640
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 4: the ball impacts and affects everyone else around him, especially offensively,

641
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 4: hell even defensively, because if you make mistakes, then they

642
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 4: always don't the goddamn feel on the defensive.

643
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: Side of the ball.

644
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 4: H Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I say, I'm just saying

645
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: I was asking your thoughts on what you think should

646
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 4: they make a change, Yes, sir.

647
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: Oho after three years? Yeah, I mean it's it's and

648
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: I get it when you when you invest that kind

649
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: of money, a lot of times. It's just like anything.

650
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: It's just like with an investment. When you put a

651
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: lot of money into an investment, OHO, it's hard to

652
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: get off it. It's hard to get off it because

653
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: you want to see something of giving in. You want

654
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: to see some type of return on your investment. Sometimes

655
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: you got to cut your lost.

656
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: I got a question for you.

657
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: I got a question for you, so fellas, that's in

658
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 4: the chat that you listen to me. Now, think about

659
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 4: this on much smaller terms.

660
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: But think about it. You're dating a woman, you've been

661
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: dating it.

662
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 4: For two or three years, and you're thinking about all

663
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 4: the money and everything you've invested in this individual, and

664
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 4: you just and you keep on, you keep on trying,

665
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 4: You keep on trying. The things just don't seem to

666
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 4: be working out and going the way you'd like it

667
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 4: to go in the right direction. But you keep thinking

668
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: about all the time you spend, all the money you

669
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 4: spend invested in this individual, are you gonna.

670
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 1: Are you gonna shelf her? Are you gonna say? You

671
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: know what, I don't want I don't want to do

672
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: this no more?

673
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 2: You know why? Let me tell you why. Because you

674
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: don't want her to be what you think she can

675
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: be with somebody else when you've invested all that in her. See,

676
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 2: that's why a lot of teams don't want to get

677
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: upset player, because what if he goes and be somewhere

678
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 2: else what we thought he could be here? You done

679
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: bought five, ten, fifteen, Yssale, Lewis, er Mas, Gucci bags, Bliinciaga.

680
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 2: You don't, oh will she won't do right? Damn?

681
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: But think about this. Think about this. What if you

682
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: cut your losses to get.

683
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 4: The bags and everything you bought because you can get

684
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: that back right and then if she does leave and

685
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 4: you get rid of that, think about it not being

686
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 4: that's an expense that it is no longer.

687
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: On your on your tab, it's no longer on your

688
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: it's no longer on your plate. And that's okay, that's okay.

689
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. But a lot of

690
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: people don't think like that because, like you said, you

691
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: made a heavy investment. It's just like you buy a

692
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 2: stop or you buy an investment property if you don't

693
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: want to get off it on yo. Because you thought

694
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: this was the run property. This was gonna be your Netflix,

695
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 2: this was gonna be your Google, this was gonna be

696
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: your Apple, your uber, whatever the case may be.

697
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 4: That's the funny thing when that we always need to

698
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 4: learn and understand everything we invest in. We're not gonna

699
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 4: get a return on everything we invest in. We're not

700
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 4: going to get a return on. So you have to

701
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 4: know when to cut your losses. And it's okay because

702
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 4: at some point that lost when you become somebody else's

703
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 4: responsibility because they ain't doing right by you.

704
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: Nine times out of ten, they gonna do right by

705
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: the next month either. So if a certain individual, if

706
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: a certain player looks a certain.

707
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: Way, it ain't like all of a sudden they're gonna

708
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 4: go to another team and they're gonna be magic and

709
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 4: all of a sudden turn around and be somebody else

710
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 4: that they're not.

711
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: Dimigo Ryan says Jordan Love will be the best QB

712
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: we faced despite playing Josh Allen. Bill's fans are taking

713
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 2: these quotes very serious. Many feel that Josh Allen the

714
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: second best quarterback in the league behind Patrick mahowns me. Personally,

715
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Speaker 2: I'll take Lamar Jackson, but that's another story. O Jo.

716
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Speaker 2: Do you believe that Jordan Love will be the best

717
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: quarterback that the Texans have faced, even though they do

718
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: have Josh Allen, Yeah, on their resume.

719
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Speaker 4: Probably I think Josh Allen Josh Allen is very good

720
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 4: and see his resume speaks for herself, despite.

721
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Speaker 1: Obviously the turnovers. But he's good.

722
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Speaker 4: You can see what he's doing now and being Superman,

723
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: not having elite players around him, but still getting the

724
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Speaker 4: job done.

725
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: But Jordan Love is really good. Jordan Love is really good.

726
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Speaker 4: Jordan Love to me is in the same bracket in

727
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 4: a sense with Jayden Daniels with a CJ. Stroud, with

728
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Speaker 4: a Lamar Jackson. You know, he's somewhat He's also a

729
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 4: dual threat quarterback. He can run, he can run, he

730
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 4: can throw, make all the throws. And to be young

731
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Speaker 4: as he is, he's very promising, which is why they

732
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Speaker 4: paid him what they did.

733
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Speaker 1: And I mean I agree with him. I agree with

734
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: Jordan Love is really really, really good, really good. And

735
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Speaker 1: the funny thing.

736
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Speaker 4: About it is is you'd have to be a football fan,

737
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Speaker 4: not a casual fan of the game. You'd have to

738
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 4: be a football fan to understand how good Jordan Love

739
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Speaker 4: is and actually watch those Packers games.

740
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Like I said, I take my first I

741
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: don't put anybody next to him because you see what

742
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: he's done in this six years or starting is off

743
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: the charge. I mean, you don't get the four super

744
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: Bowls in six years, you win three with two MVPs,

745
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: three super Bowl MVP's. That's that's beyond what breakdown. Brady

746
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 2: has more. But if you look at Brady's first six years,

747
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: and you look at his first year six years, you

748
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: look at Brady Brady, they were a defensive team. Brady

749
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: wasn't asked to do what Mahme boy's doing, but yeah,

750
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Speaker 2: he's phenomenal. I would take Lamar Jackson as my second

751
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: quarterback behind Mahomes over Burrow and Josh Allen. But I

752
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: can see people saying Burrow. I can see people saying

753
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, maybe cj Jordan love Purdy, whatever the case

754
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: may be. But one two for me is Mahomes and Lamar.

755
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Speaker 1: So hold on, hold on.

756
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 4: Now, who are our top five? So we got we

757
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Speaker 4: got we got Burrow first, you got Lamar are? So

758
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Speaker 4: what Josh Allen third? Is Josh on that list?

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Speaker 2: Hello?

760
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Speaker 1: No? I said, I said my homes.

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Speaker 2: You got Borough first in front of who my home?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I'm just.

763
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Speaker 4: So, I mean, like, talk to me real quickly your

764
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Speaker 4: top five based on who you who would say if

765
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Speaker 4: they would ask you, so you have you have Josh

766
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Speaker 4: Allen second before Lamar.

767
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Speaker 2: Okay, I would take no, I would take Lamar's second,

768
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Speaker 2: I would take h I would take I would take

769
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Speaker 2: Josh third, Borough four, and I would take I think

770
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Speaker 2: I would take I think I would take.

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Speaker 1: You put Josh Allen in front the borough though. I'm

772
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Speaker 1: just curious.

773
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Speaker 2: That I would take your preference. Take Josh. See how

774
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Speaker 2: I did it? Okay? Uh? Yeah, I mean if look,

775
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: I think once you get like, once you get past

776
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: the first two, I think you're kind of splitting hairs

777
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: with Josh Allen, Joe Burrow and uh and CJ. I

778
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: think I know CJ is only his second year in

779
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: the league, but I don't see a situation where he regresses.

780
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: I only see situations where he get improves. Jordan Love

781
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 2: is Jordan Loves and people like man, you you're talking

782
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: about Jeordane Love over Dak. Yeah, I'll take Jordan Love

783
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 2: over Dak. I'll take c J. Stroud over that too.

784
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: But you know the thing is, most of the quarterbacks

785
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: you can go week to week. I think the top

786
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: two are kind of set because Josh Allen Burrow one

787
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 2: of them players, Jerry Darkins played as good as anybody.

788
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, I think like it can go week

789
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 2: the week, like most positions can go week the week.

790
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 2: I think when you look at what Mahomes has done

791
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: his body of work, not at the end of the year,

792
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: we could say does he still does he still deserve

793
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: to be the number one quarterback?

794
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: Probably because this is what we see for Mahomes every year,

795
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 4: especially in the beginning of the season.

796
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: It always looks like this.

797
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 4: The numbers aren't staggering, it's not crazy, but all of

798
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: a sudden when it matters most Guess who always comes

799
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 4: through in the clutch.

800
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: Guess who every time?

801
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 4: Every time, at some point he's gonna have three four hundred,

802
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 4: five hundred yard games. They're gonna come. They're not gonna

803
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 4: come right now. For some reason, they never come.

804
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: At the beginning of the season.

805
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: For them.

806
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 4: It's always something that's always an issue with the offense

807
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 4: or the balls being dropped. There's there, there's no receivers

808
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: and nobody they're not catching the balls.

809
00:42:58,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: That's what it was last year.

810
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 4: This year injury she rices out Juju goddamn Juju steps up,

811
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: has a hell of a game, Travis Kelsey gets going late.

812
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: It's always remember remember the Patriots said, nah, we ain't

813
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: got no use for Juju.

814
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: Wrong system comes, she goes out. Juju comes in thirty

815
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 4: off the rip. That's that fast, just that fast.

816
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: But quarterbacks and take receiver to make them look really

817
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 2: really good. That's what that's what that's what the really

818
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: good ones can do. But the quarterback it's so hard,

819
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: o Joe, because any given a week, you're like, I

820
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: take Jared Goff, No, I take Josh Allen, No I

821
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: take c j no I take I'll take Jordan Love, No,

822
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 2: I take Joe, I take Josh. And I mean you

823
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,240
Speaker 2: we seen pretty deal where you're like that boy funny.

824
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 4: I always think about when you think about the top

825
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: five chat whoever your top five players are. I always

826
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 4: think about it. Forget the stats, we get the numbers

827
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 4: and all that stuff. I know all that matters, But

828
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 4: if you were to put them on any other team,

829
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Speaker 4: would they still be able to be efficient and be

830
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 4: productive regardless to where they went, regards to who was

831
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: at their disposal? As far as weapons are concerned, could

832
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 4: they still wheel and deal without.

833
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 2: Being boy I showed can you imagine a home with

834
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: with Chase and Higgins? Can you imagine here? What can

835
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 2: you imagine here with Waddle Tyreek and.

836
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: Listen?

837
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: Or you put him in San Francisco with that running game,

838
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, Kittle, dee Bo and bad Look some guy.

839
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 2: Is that they are a system. They defined, they defied

840
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: whatever you're doing. They are above it, and they'll they'll

841
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: elevate whatever whatever you have.

842
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: Very few can do that.

843
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: That's different, elevating.

844
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: Very few of that the quarterback position can do that.

845
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: There's maybe two or three that can do that. No

846
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: matter what situations they go to, they can elevate it.

847
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: The volume