Speaker 1: Are you leaving?
Speaker 2: I you want your way back home?
Speaker 3: Either way, we want to be there, doesn't matter how
Speaker 3: much baggage you claim and give us time and they
Speaker 3: terminol and gay a, we want to send you.
Speaker 1: Off INSTI you wanna welcome you back home?
Speaker 2: Tell us all about it.
Speaker 1: We scared her?
Speaker 2: Was it fine?
Speaker 1: Malcorn? Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do your need you ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need.
Speaker 2: With Karen and Chris welcome to Do you need a ride?
Speaker 2: This is Chris Fairbanks.
Speaker 1: And this is Karen Kilgarriff.
Speaker 2: Hello, my friend Karen.
Speaker 1: Hell, hello my friend Chris.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was just a glitch with the Yeah, I
Speaker 4: didn't pause. That was an audio glitch.
Speaker 1: That was an internal emotional glitch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was just an audio glitch in the voice
Speaker 4: that tucks to my brain and tells my mouth what
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 1: It was like start, stop, stop, start again.
Speaker 4: You know what I started doing that I should have
Speaker 4: stopped right. This looks I'm going to show you a bottle.
Speaker 2: It looks.
Speaker 4: I thought this was like that mist that is like
Speaker 4: rosewater that you spray in your face because it's in
Speaker 4: my niece's I'm in my niece's bedroom and I just
Speaker 4: sprayed un sanitizer on my eyes.
Speaker 1: It was face spray and it was handsome.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you got to read labels, is my point.
Speaker 2: It kind of burned. It was wearing.
Speaker 1: Your horn room glasses actually block that from blinding you.
Speaker 2: You know they did good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, away, you cleaned your glasses a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know what it was for the best,
Speaker 2: you know. That's my point is it's okay to make
Speaker 2: mistakes because sometimes they're happy accidents, as bob Ra.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, as long as you're wearing your safety goggles,
Speaker 1: that's the key. Yeah. Yeah, Always mistakes are allowed as
Speaker 1: long as you have the proper facewear. I have to
Speaker 1: apologize because I literally just got off my therapy appointment
Speaker 1: and flipped right over to this record. She was like,
Speaker 1: we have to finish on time today and I looked
Speaker 1: up and it was like four oh one. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta go.
Speaker 4: Get for a timing way. I thought you felt you
Speaker 4: had been over sharing so.
Speaker 1: Far, no, no literal, you're in therapy. Therapy, And then
Speaker 1: I just was like, okay, gotta go do my comedy podcast,
Speaker 1: which I actually think is a good way to start.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, getting a little closer than knowing yourself right
Speaker 4: before you do podcasts.
Speaker 1: It's a great tenderizing the soul a tad before we
Speaker 1: get into one of the probably one of the greatest
Speaker 1: conversations we will ever have with our guests today.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's always, you know, I can tell when
Speaker 4: it's going to be a good one, and it's just
Speaker 4: I can feel.
Speaker 1: It when the initial hi, how are you clap moment
Speaker 1: happens and you're just like, the electricity is here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and it's white hot, and it looks like
Speaker 4: it might be here to stay even after we're done recording.
Speaker 4: I mean, I could tell from our chit chat in
Speaker 4: the beginning that the rest of the day, I mean,
Speaker 4: I got I'm gearing up. My brother in law's having
Speaker 4: his retirement party tonight. There is a fire Oh my
Speaker 4: god type decorations.
Speaker 1: You're going to be glowing from this conversation.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 4: I I feel like I'm going to be meeting real
Speaker 4: men tonight and they're gonna shake my dainty little hand
Speaker 4: and squeeze it a little too hard. But other than that,
Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to it. I have tiny hands,
Speaker 4: and I find a lot of when they should people
Speaker 4: shake my hands, they train squeeze the knuckles together.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, especially with firemen, you can't bring that
Speaker 1: level of insecurity into the handshake. They'll feel it, they'll
Speaker 1: know it, and they'll crush you.
Speaker 2: So what if I go what if I axo insecure?
Speaker 2: I go up and hide in a tree like a cat.
Speaker 1: In the living room.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen them. I've seen them take to that
Speaker 2: quite well.
Speaker 1: Yes, go hide and stare with really wide eyes as
Speaker 1: the firemen in the living room.
Speaker 2: But just my sister's the largest plant, I'll scale it.
Speaker 1: Get up on the back of that couch and just
Speaker 1: let them know you're there and scared.
Speaker 4: And before we bring our guests on today, who I'm
Speaker 4: very excited about one of my favorite people that I just.
Speaker 2: Want to warn you.
Speaker 4: There is a brand new hitting in this room that
Speaker 4: could reveal itself at any moment. And just so you know,
Speaker 4: it's not an ugly one. Okay, Yeah, So you know
Speaker 4: that's just a visual that I'm warning you about.
Speaker 2: Because that's always good for podcasting.
Speaker 1: That's perfect for podcasting. Our guest today is played Clubs
Speaker 1: and colleges all over the country at colleges, mostly colleges.
Speaker 1: She just realized what we're doing. She was a headliner
Speaker 1: when I started in San Francisco, one of my early heroes.
Speaker 1: But I didn't get to talk to her that much because,
Speaker 1: as we've discussed, she would just drive home after her sets.
Speaker 1: She never drank and never hung out. And that's all
Speaker 1: I did right to get good at comedy was hangout
Speaker 1: at the bar. She has a podcast herself, more than
Speaker 1: one or one. There's the one Jackie and Laurie Show
Speaker 1: and Jackie and Laurie's Show with a dinear favorite, Jackie Kation,
Speaker 1: who's been on multiple times, but this is her first appearance.
Speaker 1: Lad and gentlemen, please welcome Laurie Kilmartin.
Speaker 5: Oh my go, thank you. This is very exciting. I
Speaker 5: did you know I am a bore at a nightclub.
Speaker 5: But I like your positive spin. But yeah, I do
Speaker 5: my set and then I leave before I develop any
Speaker 5: connection with other people.
Speaker 4: I think it was the right thing to do in retrospect,
Speaker 4: the healthy thing to do, because I in Austin where
Speaker 4: you just immediately show up and you're drinking beer and
Speaker 4: smoking and eating bowls of cheese. It's like an occupational
Speaker 4: hazard that you want to hang out. And I fell
Speaker 4: right into that. And I remember when you first came
Speaker 4: to Austin and you were the first comic that I
Speaker 4: saw or that I kind of got to know you
Speaker 4: through Martha Kelly and Michelle Balloon, and we went out
Speaker 4: to lunch and you were up till that point, I
Speaker 4: had opened.
Speaker 2: I had only opened for like strange men that made
Speaker 2: me feel weird, and you're like a totally normal person.
Speaker 4: It seemed like had a healthy life, and which was
Speaker 4: reassuring because I was just getting into stand up, So yeah,
Speaker 4: you know what's weird?
Speaker 5: Like I just worked on the road in Ohio with
Speaker 5: a two women and they're both Midwest comics and they
Speaker 5: never get to work with women, and they were both like,
Speaker 5: this is so strange.
Speaker 6: To not like walk into the green room with.
Speaker 5: Like your armor on because you feel like someone's gonna,
Speaker 5: you know, say something dodgy and you have to come
Speaker 5: up with it, come back and prove you're cool and
Speaker 5: stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you have to do it just perfectly so
Speaker 1: that you also let them know you're not cool with
Speaker 1: them saying that to you. But you're also not uncool,
Speaker 1: like you're gonna be a bitch, and they're real. It's
Speaker 1: a real you.
Speaker 5: Gotta be a hot ballbuster, yeah, to get the guys
Speaker 5: too to still not hire you for their shows, but
Speaker 5: still not say anything bad about.
Speaker 6: You, right, just really, I don't know how how seeing
Speaker 6: the release date is for this, but like I think the.
Speaker 5: Dane Cook Game Night picture came out and everyone's sort
Speaker 5: of pouring over like it seems like a lot of
Speaker 5: adult men and a lot of teenage girls for game Night.
Speaker 6: I don't know what it is, and I.
Speaker 5: Hope everyone had a good time and a consensual, consensual fun.
Speaker 2: This is a new photo that is just oh gosh,
Speaker 2: or maybe it's.
Speaker 5: It's resurfaced, I guess because of the attention to his
Speaker 5: engagement and say and congratulations and good luck of his
Speaker 5: girlfriend of five years who is you would think thirty
Speaker 5: or thirty five, but she's twenty three, So she's twenty three.
Speaker 5: When I do twenty three minus five, I get right
Speaker 5: right on the margin. Year.
Speaker 6: Sounds legal to me, sounds good.
Speaker 2: It's a real Jerry Lee Lewis situation.
Speaker 1: It's a truly barely legal Oh my gosh. It seems
Speaker 1: to be the dream that.
Speaker 4: Is a god that he was one of the comics
Speaker 4: I worked with in Houston when he wasn't yelling at
Speaker 4: me for not being on MySpace, because that's kind of
Speaker 4: like where he got big.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 4: It was one of those that was one of the
Speaker 4: comics where I felt uncomfortable or like I was ill
Speaker 4: at ease. And my point is you made me feel
Speaker 4: at ease and you're a nice person, and I think
Speaker 4: that was my whole point.
Speaker 6: So those kind of comics also make some male comics
Speaker 6: filities too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not to the extent. Yeah, I never
Speaker 2: felt well.
Speaker 1: It also feels like in the green room the bar
Speaker 1: is so low for correct normal behavior that it's like,
Speaker 1: I think if you really pulled everybody aside separately, everyone
Speaker 1: would feel ill at ease because it's a bunch of
Speaker 1: kind of like what I've observed over the years is
Speaker 1: very maladjusted either nerds who have figured out like the
Speaker 1: right leather jacket to buy to cover it up. It's
Speaker 1: like people who have done a lot of post high
Speaker 1: school work to get to make up for how bad
Speaker 1: things were, and now they're doing this thing that because
Speaker 1: they're really smart, But it doesn't mean that they're good socially,
Speaker 1: so the discomfort in that room gets set. I feel
Speaker 1: like the bar gets set by the headliner and whatever
Speaker 1: type of like blow hard or creep or cool person
Speaker 1: or juggler, magician, whatever you get, it gets set by that.
Speaker 1: And then all the hangers on and hang out people
Speaker 1: and middlers and openers are just going to play along
Speaker 1: with that because you just want to get your work,
Speaker 1: keep your work, keep getting work. So you're just it's
Speaker 1: the most manipulatable, malleable group of people possible, right, because
Speaker 1: it's just like, well, if Dan Cook wants us all
Speaker 1: to do shots, we better do shots. And if so
Speaker 1: and so is going to read the Bible, we're all
Speaker 1: going to nod our head quietly. Like it's just whatever
Speaker 1: you can do to keep being there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 5: I've also noticed like like I'll have I'll be like
Speaker 5: the the more experienced comic on a like a Bringer
Speaker 5: show or something, or a newer where the other comics
Speaker 5: are newer, and they're so they talk about their set
Speaker 5: like after the set happens, they talk about it with.
Speaker 6: Each other, they pour over it, and it's it's this
Speaker 6: weird nervous.
Speaker 5: Energy that I that I remember having had once, I guess,
Speaker 5: but I'm like it still exists, you guys. It's so
Speaker 5: strange to just be like, oh, the thing I finished
Speaker 5: and already put out of my head, you're gonna listen
Speaker 5: to it immediately and go over it and talk about it.
Speaker 6: So strange to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I never did do that. I never did record
Speaker 4: and listen or I just forgot about it. And even
Speaker 4: from the I wonder if that that's a sign of
Speaker 4: someone being a hard worker.
Speaker 2: I just never did that stuff.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 1: Also, opening yourself up, I feel like because I started
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety, that was not allowed, Like you could
Speaker 1: not show that level of fear or concern. Like that
Speaker 1: wasn't chill and cool, So you couldn't do that. People
Speaker 1: would mock you until you died. Basically, if you did
Speaker 1: something like that, what did you think of my third joke?
Speaker 1: People be like, oh, fuck yourself, like buppies, you'd be
Speaker 1: ripped apart.
Speaker 6: You didn't think I watched your set, now you I heard.
Speaker 1: You quacking from back here, and I knew I didn't
Speaker 1: want to watch yourself.
Speaker 4: I'm that makes me happy that I started in Austin,
Speaker 4: because everyone was pretty supportive and nice until the local contest.
Speaker 6: Was that was it apart?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the funniest person in Austin came around. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's to the point. But yeah, I think when I
Speaker 4: moved to LA I noticed like, wait, I thought that
Speaker 4: was my friend and they're being mean and trying to
Speaker 4: make me look at like why is it competitive to
Speaker 4: just be in the bar at mbar? Like what I
Speaker 4: that was new that's city, that's city, comedy, big city.
Speaker 5: Maybe it wasn't Bay Area thing, Karen where Yeah, you
Speaker 5: couldn't act like to impressed or interested in your own
Speaker 5: act in front of people, right, Like I remember when
Speaker 5: Madonna started calling herself an artist and I'm like what,
Speaker 5: and now everyone does.
Speaker 6: My son calls himself an artist. I'm yeah, all right,
Speaker 6: you're an artist like.
Speaker 5: Everyone everyone just uses these sort of words that were
Speaker 5: mockable where we came up.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, well you know when we when I
Speaker 1: first moved down, because I think you moved down after
Speaker 1: that first influx of what people. I moved in ninety
Speaker 1: four and then a bunch of people moved like the
Speaker 1: next year, Yeah, did you move in the nineties.
Speaker 6: I moved to New York in ninety eight.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, you went East coast. So like when
Speaker 1: we first moved down, there was like a kind of
Speaker 1: a big group of comics that had all people from
Speaker 1: all over, but there was definitely a large contention of
Speaker 1: Bay Area comics like Blaine and Patten, Me, Brian Postsa,
Speaker 1: there was a whole bunch of us, Laura Mill and
Speaker 1: Greg Bars.
Speaker 6: Greig barent Yet like everyone and Margaret.
Speaker 1: Laura and Margaret went first, so they were kind of
Speaker 1: like the scouts that were like, yeah, we got we
Speaker 1: got a house. Now there's a place to like base this.
Speaker 1: But Kathy Griffin used to call us the tough like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're from San Francisco, tough customer, tough. Wow, it should
Speaker 1: kind of make fun of everybody because that was it
Speaker 1: was that thing of like everyone was trying so hard
Speaker 1: to be the funniest one. It was that being mean
Speaker 1: was absolutely on the table, Like vulnerability was just absolutely,
Speaker 1: in my mind, never an option.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow for those people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's weird because I went to New York and
Speaker 5: the people that that established a bulk head there were
Speaker 5: Lank no excuse me, Jim Earle, not Barry Lank, Jim
Speaker 5: Earle and Ray James and Don Perotto. Those were the
Speaker 5: Oh somebody had an apartment of Williamsburg and that. Oh
Speaker 5: and Steve Rosenfield because they were working on The Daily Show.
Speaker 6: I think with Kiln too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that was like, you do need a couple
Speaker 5: of comics to do it first and let you know
Speaker 5: it's okay from whatever you're scene.
Speaker 1: As I think, Yeah, from your hometown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you started in the Bay Area then, Mari.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I started in eighty seven and I was from
Speaker 5: Walnut Creek, so I lived with my parents and just
Speaker 5: kind of went on the road and did one night
Speaker 5: or did whatever I could, you know, until ninety eight,
Speaker 5: and then I moved to New York and sort of
Speaker 5: got a day job and started just like getting into
Speaker 5: the New York scene, which is so different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just so different.
Speaker 4: I'm so impressed with you still that you've always had
Speaker 4: like a rite, Like I've known you to be on
Speaker 4: writing on Conan for all those years and you're a
Speaker 4: mom and I would see you. There was nights where
Speaker 4: I'd have like three sets and I thought, oh, I'm
Speaker 4: really doing it. I'm putting in the work, and you
Speaker 4: were at each one of my shows. Did you find
Speaker 4: so maybe that's just my perspective. Did you find for
Speaker 4: a while you and I were on the same shows
Speaker 4: quite often it felt like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like
Speaker 4: hello again and and as usual, you do your set
Speaker 4: and you leave, and I would you know, i'd climb
Speaker 4: up and do a keg stand not anymore, but yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah you are. You are a hard worker that always
Speaker 2: has made it work a lot of people.
Speaker 4: If you get a writing job, the first thing I
Speaker 4: would do, I think, is quit going out to do
Speaker 4: stand up every night.
Speaker 6: That's my point, tempting.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm so glad I didn't because that's how
Speaker 5: I'm making money right now because I haven't. You know,
Speaker 5: I haven't had a writing job since October. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I'd be in a full panic if I quit stand up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like you still like it, That's that's the
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's still me too, so fun, you know, to
Speaker 5: figure stuff out and try to And Plus I feel
Speaker 5: like there's so many like bad comics now that I
Speaker 5: feel like, if you you're good and you have good sensibilities,
Speaker 5: you're obligated to stay in it because you're needed.
Speaker 6: You're very necessary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good point.
Speaker 2: I just know there's still this lingering potential for me
Speaker 2: where I could get really good and some with it.
Speaker 2: I gotta stake it.
Speaker 1: If I just see what happens.
Speaker 2: I just would chat with someone about my sets afterwards.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times I've recorded. I've
Speaker 1: taken the mini tape recorder, recorded my set and never
Speaker 1: listened to it. I never even looked at it again.
Speaker 1: We're just like, what's that going to do for me?
Speaker 2: Yeah? My whole phone.
Speaker 4: It's dating back to twenty fifteen, sixteen, the beginning of iPhones.
Speaker 4: I have never listened to any of them. I make
Speaker 4: sure they transfer every time I get a new phone, because.
Speaker 2: One day I'll want to hear my own.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, what that joke was really bad in the
Speaker 4: beginning stages. Thank you twenty fifteen.
Speaker 1: You could hire someone to transcribe all of those I like.
Speaker 1: Then you're like, it's a book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'll just go get an intern somewhere, and
Speaker 2: then you need.
Speaker 5: To hire someone to read them, and then you just
Speaker 5: need to hire someone to be you, because it's.
Speaker 6: So painful to look backwards too.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I have like I have no room storage
Speaker 5: on my phone because I'm afraid to delete any of
Speaker 5: these voice memos in case they're they have the magic key,
Speaker 5: but they don't, and I won't find it anyway because
Speaker 5: I won't listen to it.
Speaker 6: So I've really trapped myself.
Speaker 4: People make fun of you, but my new phone is
Speaker 4: half a terabyte. Oh my gosh, it's like my first
Speaker 4: external hard drive is basically this fart. Oh my god, Laurie,
Speaker 4: I have you're a former competitive collegiate swimmer. Every time,
Speaker 4: I have so much lake water in my ear right
Speaker 4: now and now it's starting to hurt, and I've put
Speaker 4: these swimmers ear drops.
Speaker 1: Are you asking a question?
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 2: I'm leading up to it. You can see my voices.
Speaker 4: I've tried the swimmers drop, which is like alcohol, and
Speaker 4: then the waxy drops.
Speaker 2: It's how what do I do?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 6: I think that's almost never had swimmers here, you know.
Speaker 2: See, that's why you're a swimmer.
Speaker 6: Do you wear a cap? Do you wear? Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I when I swim in a pool, I wear
Speaker 4: a lot of embarrassing things. That's anorkel.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Yes, it goes up the middle as Michael Phelps's signature
Speaker 4: on it. And those are good ones and flippers. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it is a good it's Helps with lung capacity. But no,
Speaker 4: I was just swimming in a lake and it's become
Speaker 4: I can't hear. It's just I wonder what you usually do?
Speaker 6: That seems alarming. But I would start wearing a cap, okay,
Speaker 6: and see how that?
Speaker 1: Would you wear a cap in a lake?
Speaker 6: Yes, I would. I would wear gogles, yeah, yeah, yeah?
Speaker 2: Do you wear a hat with pajamas? A pointy hat?
Speaker 2: A cap? When you sleep?
Speaker 1: Well? I build a candle up in a dark hallway. Ever,
Speaker 1: there's like you can answer waste questions separately or together.
Speaker 4: Are you being haunted by any of the old people
Speaker 4: you work with on Conan that have passed?
Speaker 1: Are you up an eezer?
Speaker 6: Screw?
Speaker 1: That's there were a couple questions.
Speaker 5: I guess maybe my my baseline question, which I should
Speaker 5: have asked earlier, is what what's your cap look like?
Speaker 5: Does it have flowers on it? Does it have accouterments?
Speaker 5: Because I'm thinking just a lycra cap, like a you know,
Speaker 5: competitive swimmer.
Speaker 4: Cap wool I I normally when I'm doing laps, I
Speaker 4: wear my black Speedo with a Speedo logo.
Speaker 2: I have to mention that it gives Speedo gives me money.
Speaker 4: No, I was just at a lake, trying a new thing,
Speaker 4: and I was falling repeatedly, and I think that's why.
Speaker 4: I think it's the rushing of water. Suddenly in my ear,
Speaker 4: you were falling in the water. Yes, I was trying
Speaker 4: to do this thing called a hydrofoil, which is a
Speaker 4: you prop.
Speaker 2: It on a dock and then you run towards it
Speaker 2: and jump on it.
Speaker 4: And it's got It's basically a surfboard on a stick
Speaker 4: with fins at the bottom which are dangerously razor sharp
Speaker 4: carbon fiber fins.
Speaker 2: I was very worried about cutting myself. And then you
Speaker 2: pump on it.
Speaker 4: And you ride on it like three feet above the water,
Speaker 4: so it's a board, Oh my god. But it never
Speaker 4: touches the water and it's very difficult. And then I
Speaker 4: looked at videos of people that are good at it,
Speaker 4: and it looks like a pogo stick. It's a styleless sport.
Speaker 4: It doesn't even look good. But I'm addicted to it now.
Speaker 4: And that's what I kept falling.
Speaker 2: And what have you?
Speaker 1: Two?
Speaker 4: Just start snoring. I just heard like the two muppets
Speaker 4: on Sesame Street, those conjoined muppets.
Speaker 6: I'm going by. My initial recommendation is that you wear
Speaker 6: a cap.
Speaker 1: If you're like in the Olympics and you're wearing one
Speaker 1: of those like super you know again, Michael Phelps like
Speaker 1: caps that keeps water out of your ears. They actually
Speaker 1: seal so that water can't go in there.
Speaker 5: It's never a complete seal, but it's it covers the
Speaker 5: whole lot pretty well.
Speaker 6: But that's not what it's for. It's usually just to
Speaker 6: keep your hair down and so your.
Speaker 5: Goggles will stick the cap also as right, but I
Speaker 5: think that's an outcome that happens additionally, is that you
Speaker 5: won't get water in your ear.
Speaker 4: I get I hear you because I I'm like, it's
Speaker 4: certainly a swimming cap doesn't keep your hair dry.
Speaker 2: It gets under there.
Speaker 4: I have noticed if I really pull it down it
Speaker 4: will cover my ears, and I'm like, well that it's
Speaker 4: not going to keep water out of your ears, but
Speaker 4: it'll keep it from rushing in if you do a
Speaker 4: backwards flop and slap the side of your head on
Speaker 4: the surface of the water. I think that's why I
Speaker 4: need to just start wearing a cap around town. Never
Speaker 4: know when you're gonna end up in the water.
Speaker 6: And Karen, what's what is your swimming problem today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my swimming problem is this. I actually do swim
Speaker 1: a lot in the summertime especially. That is my favorite
Speaker 1: way to get exercise. And I recently bought little gloves
Speaker 1: that are like fins. Have you ever seen them? So
Speaker 1: you actually yes, so you go faster when you swim,
Speaker 1: and I love them and it makes it so much
Speaker 1: more fun, Like it's really powerful in the water, and
Speaker 1: it's the difference is so slight, but the power is
Speaker 1: like it feels three times as fast. But they're really
Speaker 1: hard to put on, like because they are also that
Speaker 1: really tight kind of rubber, Like it's just that thing.
Speaker 1: Why can't they make some sort of a product so
Speaker 1: that like because I think of swim caps and I
Speaker 1: just think of them like ripping your hair out because
Speaker 1: they're so rubbery. And it's same with those gloves.
Speaker 5: The silicon. The caps are a little thicker. They're made
Speaker 5: by I have I use tear t y R. It's
Speaker 5: not Speedo, but Chris, I think you'd find you'd be satisfied.
Speaker 2: It's time cap.
Speaker 6: There's a there's a paddle. It's not like a web thing,
Speaker 6: but you could just slip your hand into it really
Speaker 6: quickly and very easily. They're plastic paddles and I use
Speaker 6: a pair by Finis.
Speaker 2: F I n I S Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6: And they're red, they're black and yellow and they're reversible.
Speaker 5: So if you have them on one way, you do
Speaker 5: it with freestyle and backstroke, and you have them on
Speaker 5: the other way you do a fly and breastroke.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah yeah, And.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing where it kind of like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the power is up. I can't really explain it.
Speaker 4: I have Finish flippers that I think, like Karen was
Speaker 4: saying with it combined with the handfin because I have
Speaker 4: those rubbery frog hands also, and then the flippers plus
Speaker 4: it they're weighted and so I feel.
Speaker 2: Like my legs are doing more work when I'm kicking.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And I have Finish sprand waterproof EMP three player with
Speaker 4: headphones so I can listen to music while I'm swimming.
Speaker 6: Does that work? Yeah?
Speaker 2: And then Pinnis is from the Finnis.
Speaker 1: People, because I tried to do that with and the
Speaker 1: ones that I got, Uh, there was a problem. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's because you I couldn't go all the way under right,
Speaker 1: which is how I like to swim.
Speaker 4: I listened to half a song before water inevitably gets
Speaker 4: in there. It's yeah, I understand that they're waterproof, but
Speaker 4: my ears are not.
Speaker 2: Don't won't perfectly seal.
Speaker 4: I don't have in my ears a god given gasket
Speaker 4: that's gonna seal around, you know, So I kind of
Speaker 4: stop using them, but I do. It's those finish I'm
Speaker 4: just saying those people of Finnishi, we're all about finis.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I like the sound of slashing. The swimming's the
Speaker 5: last place where I can't be disturbed, you know, and
Speaker 5: we'rery to be fiddling around with tech, I would just
Speaker 5: be ruined.
Speaker 6: I might as well be on the elliptical of that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I got them in anticipation of swimming. When I was
Speaker 4: told by my hip doctor to become a swimmer. I
Speaker 4: didn't really know how to swim, so I bought. I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: that's going to be boring, So I preemptively got the
Speaker 4: waterproof earphones.
Speaker 1: And it feels like if if you did only breaststroke
Speaker 1: or a thing that kind of kept your head up
Speaker 1: more like there, because in the beginning, when I was swimming,
Speaker 1: and I truly was just trying to do laps for
Speaker 1: half an hour just to be moving my body in
Speaker 1: some way. I just wore normal Apple At air pods
Speaker 1: and I was just like, you just didn't get these wet.
Speaker 1: So I was doing basically like a frog stroke and
Speaker 1: just keeping my head up the whole time.
Speaker 2: That's risky, Yeah, it's very risky. Well, I swim, I
Speaker 2: like to have fresh toast. So you imagine me.
Speaker 1: Leg and your plate.
Speaker 4: Holding it above your head like say anything that you're
Speaker 4: just screaming everyone running out.
Speaker 1: Well, actually that was going to be my follow up
Speaker 1: question to Laurie. Now that we have a swim expert
Speaker 1: on the show, which we've wanted for a long Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is great. We can really this we need to do.
Speaker 1: Uh do you find and maybe this is a thing
Speaker 1: that if you've done it for long enough, you've already
Speaker 1: kind of adjusted. But for me, like as opposed to
Speaker 1: getting on an elliptical machine, when I swim for exercise,
Speaker 1: I find that I'm hungrier and want to eat more.
Speaker 5: Later in the like later on in the day, starving
Speaker 5: start right, Yeah, I think part of it is being
Speaker 5: in the cold water, you know, being being a little chillier,
Speaker 5: and you don't you don't get so hot like you
Speaker 5: do on the elliptical that you kind of want to
Speaker 5: war them up a little bit. But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: a lot of food afterwards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just have to.
Speaker 4: I was I was gaining w I swam a lot
Speaker 4: after when I recovered from have surgery and I and
Speaker 4: I had gained a little and I will this might
Speaker 4: sound crazy, but my doctor was like, that's because the
Speaker 4: water is cold in the pool and so every time
Speaker 4: you jump in, your your body is like, oh, time
Speaker 4: to build up a layer of fat.
Speaker 2: He said, you need to swim in a very warm pool.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, let me get access hot.
Speaker 4: It's so disgusting, I know, like my body thought I
Speaker 4: had become like one of those polar bear swimmers where
Speaker 4: they that's way he's said, but I think he just was.
Speaker 4: He was winking, telling me to try harder. But after
Speaker 4: a derragg Karen, it's your full body moving, you just
Speaker 4: need five sandwiches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, Because I read a thing where it's like
Speaker 1: you can work out for half an hour on the
Speaker 1: elliptical and that burns whatever, but if you swim, it's double.
Speaker 1: Whatever you do in the pool is double, And then
Speaker 1: I'm like that's amazing. But then if it's making me
Speaker 1: way hungrier than I normally. Right, It's like this is
Speaker 1: probably unfortunate, and that's when I get really into trouble
Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh god, I'm super hungry, so I
Speaker 1: probably should have a breedo and start planning a dessert
Speaker 1: instead of going just eat an apple, like fill it
Speaker 1: up with you know whatever, Yeah, fill it up with
Speaker 1: something good. That's never my plan.
Speaker 4: And add to that that your body is just creating
Speaker 4: a layer of fat because of the cold panic it
Speaker 4: goes into it.
Speaker 6: I do think that being in the water is better
Speaker 6: for your brain for some reason.
Speaker 5: It's just it feels like, say you burn the equal
Speaker 5: amount of calories or whatever on an elliptical or a pool,
Speaker 5: after you get out of water, you just feel different.
Speaker 5: You know, Yes, you kind of feel just, you know,
Speaker 5: sweatier when you get off of a gym equipment.
Speaker 4: Totally, it's way different. I did not expect the meditative
Speaker 4: quality of it. Like I it's the only time I'm
Speaker 4: doing a thing for Like Karen said, I'd try and
Speaker 4: go about a half hour without stopping, sometimes twenty five.
Speaker 4: But I you're just paying attention to going straight and breathe,
Speaker 4: and it's not war it's not boring. I didn't need music.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, it's the only time you're just focused
Speaker 4: on one thing and you're not thinking of Like I'm
Speaker 4: not thinking of any of my problems. I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to think of jokes. I'm just thinking about breathing and
Speaker 4: going straight and having a rhythm.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: Then when you get out the thing that I was
Speaker 1: really loving, and it's making me think about it because
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I have to get back on that.
Speaker 1: I was doing really good and doing it every single day,
Speaker 1: and the thing I loved was like at night when
Speaker 1: I would go to lad like after i'd be done
Speaker 1: with that and it would kind of be like whatever
Speaker 1: happened at work or whatever kind of stresses whatever. Then
Speaker 1: when you're laying on the couch, you have that like
Speaker 1: all your muscles are tingling feeling. I feel like that's
Speaker 1: that's the goal. That became my goal of the day
Speaker 1: of like just swim long enough so you'll get that
Speaker 1: feeling because it feels good and it like makes you
Speaker 1: feel better always.
Speaker 5: Oh, I noticed that both of you guys said that
Speaker 5: you kind of swim for like a half hour straight,
Speaker 5: And I find that to be actually kind of tough,
Speaker 5: and I like to break it into little chunks, little sets,
Speaker 5: you know. So oh, usually there's a pace clock if
Speaker 5: you're swimming, like at a regular lap pool, that you
Speaker 5: can go. You know, I'm gonna do like ten two lappers,
Speaker 5: which are like fifties, like ten fifties on the two
Speaker 5: minutes or the minute and a half, and the clock
Speaker 5: will kind of keep track of things for you.
Speaker 6: And then you know, you can kind of rest and
Speaker 6: it makes it a little more interesting for your brain.
Speaker 5: And then you know, you do a kickset where you
Speaker 5: put your fins on board, and then you do like
Speaker 5: a pat like a pole set with your paddles or
Speaker 5: your gloves. But if you break it into little parts,
Speaker 5: it's I find it way more enjoyable than just going
Speaker 5: I'm swimming from twelve to twelve thirty.
Speaker 2: And right, well that sounds good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I need to switch that. I need to
Speaker 4: learn a second stroke. Yeah, I can swim on my
Speaker 4: back and I guess that. I guess we'll call it
Speaker 4: a backstroke and then a free style, which is just
Speaker 4: for me. I'm just making it up as that go.
Speaker 1: You're rapping the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's easy to wrap underwater? No one, do
Speaker 2: you remember it?
Speaker 1: There was a Robert Redford movie that came out in
Speaker 1: this is such a deep cut, but it came out
Speaker 1: in like the I think mid two thousands, and I
Speaker 1: think it was based on a true story. It was
Speaker 1: Robert Redford married to Helen Mirren and he was an
Speaker 1: executive that got kidnapped. Do you remember the story?
Speaker 6: Oh no, no, no.
Speaker 1: The movie opens with Helen Mirren coming out in the
Speaker 1: very early morning with like the fog on their gorgeous
Speaker 1: black bottom pool with the like natural stone surrounding whatever.
Speaker 1: And she gets into this still pool very like barely
Speaker 1: breaks the water, lowers herself down and then does I
Speaker 1: think it's the breaststroke or whatever, that kind of froggy
Speaker 1: one and she just swims the pool as the credits roll.
Speaker 1: And I literally was like, I need to do that
Speaker 1: like that. That needs to be minute routine or whatever.
Speaker 1: And so when I got a house with a pool,
Speaker 1: I was just like, and now it's my Helen maren
Speaker 1: arra where I will do this? And I told myself,
Speaker 1: I do it every morning, But of course I don't
Speaker 1: like I should do it at like dawn the way
Speaker 1: she did but do.
Speaker 4: You imagine credits rolling as you do it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: my favorite thing to do as a kid.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing I worry.
Speaker 5: I don't like to swim without a lifeguard because I
Speaker 5: feel like you actually are attempting the fates to roll
Speaker 5: credits on your life at that exact moment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like to have a lifeguard. I like a
Speaker 6: witness or two.
Speaker 4: Because when you said fifty meter, you are swimming in
Speaker 4: Olympic regular I'm going to twenty four hour fitness where
Speaker 4: there's people waiting in the pool after the hot tub
Speaker 4: just to rent off, and there's fan dance and it's gross.
Speaker 4: But you my first time in there's one here in Missoil.
Speaker 4: I've been here all month, and they at the pace
Speaker 4: clock and they had I realized that it would be
Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty laps back and forth if I
Speaker 4: were to realistically swim to Alcatraz.
Speaker 6: Is that we're trying to do. Are you prepping for
Speaker 6: an open?
Speaker 4: Someone mentioned it, said they'd give me one thousand dollars
Speaker 4: to do it, and then I realized very quickly that
Speaker 4: it would be impossible. Karen and I talked about it.
Speaker 4: Also sharks. Also, I'm not a good swimmer. There's a
Speaker 4: bunch of to not do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think you would. Based on how cold the
Speaker 1: Bay Area water is, you would probably gain fifty pounds
Speaker 1: a second if we're if we're assuming that's true, you're
Speaker 1: fucked with that.
Speaker 4: How cold that goddamn water is up there, and not
Speaker 4: to a bunch of it getting in my ear.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of your.
Speaker 5: Ears, my god, And how how heavy would your ears
Speaker 5: be with all the weight gain and the water.
Speaker 2: I was offered one thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: To do it, to swim to or from Alcatraz.
Speaker 4: From Treasure Island Alcatraz actually a little a little further
Speaker 4: than from the bit.
Speaker 2: I don't know where you would do it from San Francisco.
Speaker 2: I guess under the.
Speaker 1: Treasure Island that's like halfway across the Bay Bridge essentially.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, okay, yeah, because it's called Yourba Buena I think,
Speaker 5: and uh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Yerba Buena Parte is right where the bridge
Speaker 4: goes through and Treasure Islands the flat.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I know you both are from the Bay Area.
Speaker 2: Describe the name of it.
Speaker 5: It was Treasure Island, and that's you know, that's how
Speaker 5: I grew up that's how I was raised.
Speaker 6: And then I went back and they changed into Yuba Buena,
Speaker 6: and uh yeah, I was That.
Speaker 5: Was you know, another disturbing thing about the Bay Area
Speaker 5: that you know when you leave your home and then
Speaker 5: you just keep coming back and stuff changes.
Speaker 1: And you're like, what, who the hell did this? The
Speaker 1: same thing happened with when new comics would come down
Speaker 1: to La and I'd already been down here for a
Speaker 1: long time and they'd come down and we always called
Speaker 1: it the city, right because especially because people who live
Speaker 1: in like the suburbs around San Francisco, you say you're
Speaker 1: from San Francisco, but you're not. I'm from Paloma, which
Speaker 1: couldn't be more different than Fancisco. Yeah, and we always
Speaker 1: called it the city. Are you going into the city?
Speaker 1: Do you have a thing in the city? Well the
Speaker 1: kids started calling it the bay and it how fucking irritating,
Speaker 1: and and for them it's like it's like calling it
Speaker 1: the city, It's it's normal. It's like it's that's what
Speaker 1: everyone says. But this I was like, sorry, who changed it?
Speaker 1: Why would we be changing it? Are you you're not
Speaker 1: going to the Bay? No one's getting in that goddamn
Speaker 1: water like, what do you mean you can't.
Speaker 5: Furthermore, they're they're calling all of California Cali. Uh who
Speaker 5: what a lot of a lot of people are a
Speaker 5: lot of and it's it's very upsetting.
Speaker 4: My hometown, Missoula. People call it the zoo now, which
Speaker 4: drives me nuts. It's not it's a liberal arts college town.
Speaker 2: It's not a zoo.
Speaker 4: It's not radio or they call it Montucky, where there's
Speaker 4: no rednecks there, there's no I mean, nothing against Kentucky,
Speaker 4: but it's and then someone started a beer called Montucky
Speaker 4: that is everywhere now, and every time I see it,
Speaker 4: I'm like, don't give my town nicknames.
Speaker 2: While I'm gone.
Speaker 1: I feeling this is a classic old people talk. I
Speaker 1: like it, Like what the hell are they calling it
Speaker 1: this for? It's not like this is so you know,
Speaker 1: it's like if you're mad about you're Burbuena. You know,
Speaker 1: you know you're only.
Speaker 5: Started in like two thousand and six instead of the
Speaker 5: late eighties and early nineties.
Speaker 6: Different podcast this would be right now.
Speaker 2: It's so funny.
Speaker 4: That's why when people see me for the like people
Speaker 4: that just listen to the podcast and go to a
Speaker 4: show and didn't know what I look like. They're like, oh,
Speaker 4: I thought you were like sixty five or seven.
Speaker 2: It's not I'm like, oh, I.
Speaker 4: Must have a distinguished voice. No, it's because I complain
Speaker 4: about guy's stuff, a lot.
Speaker 1: Of medical stuff of hip surgery.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you are in incredibly young to have had hip surgery.
Speaker 6: Though, let's get that on the record.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, but if if you had hip problems because
Speaker 4: it's skateboarding, oh goes right back to cool.
Speaker 2: I'm not good at skateboard and just do it a lot.
Speaker 2: And why are all these kids on my law Laurie?
Speaker 1: What else besides where you're from and the fact that
Speaker 1: you've been doing comedy forever. What's what's fresh and new
Speaker 1: in Laurie kil Martin's life these days?
Speaker 5: I guess it's a new unemployment, you know. Like I
Speaker 5: had been working pretty for ten years straight on Conan. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and so while I was raising my son, and so
Speaker 5: that was very stressful in some ways. My mom moved
Speaker 5: in with me for like four years and helped out.
Speaker 5: And that was that quadruple distress or maybe even a
Speaker 5: higher number.
Speaker 1: Higher than it did. It led to some amazing tweets
Speaker 1: some moms all worth the mom series of tweets were
Speaker 1: truly amazing.
Speaker 5: So now my mom died and my son is a
Speaker 5: lot older, he's almost sixteen, and I don't have a job,
Speaker 5: and it's this really weird. The compression is gone, and
Speaker 5: I'm finding it hard to even do anything like one
Speaker 5: activity in the day when I used to do twenty,
Speaker 5: Like I wake up and I had this list and
Speaker 5: I would start it.
Speaker 6: And now it's it's really hard for me to focus
Speaker 6: like that. But I feel like if I.
Speaker 5: Had another job, I would get back into it. But
Speaker 5: it's yeh, it's definitely it was a lot of external pressure,
Speaker 5: and now that it's not there, it's a very strange feeling.
Speaker 1: I can relate to that so much, and because I
Speaker 1: think and now I can't remember, but it was always
Speaker 1: Conan was always a daily show up until when they stopped, right,
Speaker 1: so it never went weekly or did anything were I
Speaker 1: honestly believe working on a daily show warps you in
Speaker 1: such a specific and kind of singular way. And then
Speaker 1: when you're out in the real world where people are
Speaker 1: like I work on a show that's once a week
Speaker 1: or once a goddamn month, or we have five six
Speaker 1: months of pre production and then I don't even have
Speaker 1: to worry about the other part of it, Like there
Speaker 1: were parts of it where like it's like I was
Speaker 1: raised in this highly emergency situation. And so then after
Speaker 1: I first left after five years of doing a daily show,
Speaker 1: I laid on the couch and watched NCIS for nine
Speaker 1: months and literally like I couldn't get up and I
Speaker 1: kind of couldn't adjust because it was like the difference
Speaker 1: was so vast and that level of stress dropped to
Speaker 1: it a naturally low level where it was a really
Speaker 1: difficult adjustment for me, really very strange adjustment.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's where I am right now. I'm
Speaker 6: watching The Nick.
Speaker 4: It wasn't that a great I love that show. It
Speaker 4: was a great show, and it's no longer I got canceled.
Speaker 4: I that show makes me laugh so much.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and like everything sorry, the Nick, the
Speaker 1: one about.
Speaker 4: The hospital, Yeah, isn't that funny? I was thinking of
Speaker 4: The Mick with the women from My Ways Sunny. That
Speaker 4: is also very funny. It's a very funny.
Speaker 6: Oh that reminds me of that show, The Wick.
Speaker 2: But all I've done during quarantine the tick Tick.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I had to get mine in there. I talked
Speaker 1: right over.
Speaker 6: That's a real show, though, I think I.
Speaker 4: Made it was Wow, that's a classic example of Karen
Speaker 4: and I both needed to get out.
Speaker 2: Our ick.
Speaker 1: For your ick into the microphone as quickly as you
Speaker 1: can get your credit now. No, the nick was the
Speaker 1: hospital from the eighteen hundreds one, which was I think.
Speaker 1: I think it was really expensive. I think that's why
Speaker 1: they stopped doing it, because first of all, I'm sure
Speaker 1: Clive Owen was infensive, and then everyone else on that
Speaker 1: show was so good. I loved that show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it seems expensive just to recreating the sets and stuff,
Speaker 5: but it's it's so funny how they all their medical treatments,
Speaker 5: you know, were killing them and they're so excited about them.
Speaker 6: Mercury treatments. No not in your no, no, please stop it.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, but it's weird because.
Speaker 5: All of them men are awful but in different ways,
Speaker 5: and and they're allowed to be because of the way
Speaker 5: society is, especially back then, the white men. And yeah,
Speaker 5: it's just like you're like, gosh, this is kind This
Speaker 5: is probably pretty accurate. Is the rights that women had
Speaker 5: and the very limited amount of autonomy they had, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because all those doctors were on cocaine, like, and
Speaker 1: the cocaine was just kind of free flowing, like, yeah
Speaker 1: it was it was aspirin, Yeah, it was coca cola.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Okay. I did one.
Speaker 5: Took one screenshot of Clive Owen saying this hospital, like
Speaker 5: the hospital runs on cocaine, and I tagged Josh Gondleman
Speaker 5: in it because one has to. But the amount of
Speaker 5: times I haven't tagged him in a cocaine screenshot, you know,
Speaker 5: because I have it with the subtitles, I feel like
Speaker 5: I deserve a little more praise because it's it's non
Speaker 5: stock cocaine with Clive Owen, and that's Josh Gondoley.
Speaker 6: He's a very funny comic. Is rich?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Is that he's a coke addict, which is not.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure he's tired of it.
Speaker 6: But I was like, Josh, I got to do what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I gotta tag you on this now more than ever.
Speaker 2: Do you find it?
Speaker 4: Is that the kind of show, if not a daily
Speaker 4: variety or a talk show, would you want to write
Speaker 4: on a scripted show like that?
Speaker 6: I don't know. I think that's one of those ones
Speaker 6: where you just watch and go that's magical. I don't
Speaker 6: know that that ability especially historic on all that is
Speaker 6: uh in my wheelhouse.
Speaker 5: But it's just such a weird time right now, Like
Speaker 5: today it seems like HBO is about to apparently it's
Speaker 5: going to be like a tab on the Discovery app.
Speaker 6: It's like, wait, what this is the best streaming app?
Speaker 6: What's happening? Why are you guys ruining it?
Speaker 1: And everything is happened shifting. Also, I had a friend
Speaker 1: who was just talking about and these are people who
Speaker 1: like literally just got off one show and they're just like,
Speaker 1: there's no jobs, there's no like all the like the
Speaker 1: staffing stuff is changing really dramatically kind of overnight, and
Speaker 1: people are it's really difficult and rough. And then also
Speaker 1: it's like if I were your manager, Lorie, like the
Speaker 1: idea that they constantly are making talk shows for people,
Speaker 1: like new talk shows for people. That's like a thing
Speaker 1: that just constantly happens. And when when I used to
Speaker 1: do that all the time. My thing is like, but
Speaker 1: you don't have to just make a show and throw
Speaker 1: it out there and then cancel it eight months later,
Speaker 1: which is normally what happens. It's like, why don't you
Speaker 1: hire the people that know how to make these shows
Speaker 1: and then actually figure out how to make it really
Speaker 1: good so it lasts because there are people that have
Speaker 1: that knowledge all like someone that's wrote on Conan for
Speaker 1: ten years. It's like, you know a little something about
Speaker 1: making a TV show that people want to watch. And
Speaker 1: yet usually it's like on those those other new talk
Speaker 1: shows that I always watch, I think they get very
Speaker 1: like producorially based first, instead of content based, where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but someone's gonna have to come up with segments and
Speaker 1: they can't all just be the hotspot of like here's
Speaker 1: the gossip for today. It's like no one gets a
Speaker 1: shit about that, Like you have to kind of innovate.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's my wish for you, that someone
Speaker 1: cool would get a talk show that they actually want
Speaker 1: to be funny first.
Speaker 2: If I could take a stab at being your manager
Speaker 2: for me, yeah.
Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna get a chance.
Speaker 6: I want to hear you both have.
Speaker 4: It sounds like you've been working too hard and right
Speaker 4: now you're enjoying life and relaxing, and I think you
Speaker 4: should try and milk this unemployment as long as possible
Speaker 4: and keep flirting with laziness and keep doing and keep
Speaker 4: doing stand up because you missed it before.
Speaker 2: So just my advice is to not get work, just
Speaker 2: keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, as a as a manager, do you make a
Speaker 6: lot of money because.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I have yet.
Speaker 4: I have yet to get a percentage of any of
Speaker 4: my clients. My encouragement is for all of them to
Speaker 4: go to the beach and buy a hammock. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: and go viral on the beach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sort to do it. Yeah, you just look relaxed
Speaker 2: and glowing and that why ruin that?
Speaker 6: Why with like a daily But yeah, I mean I do.
Speaker 5: I do kind of like like writing topical jokes, even
Speaker 5: though they age horribly, all of them, right, Since I'm
Speaker 5: kind of interested in what's happening in the day anyway,
Speaker 5: I might just want to use that knowledge to write
Speaker 5: some jokes, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: It just seems like there's so.
Speaker 5: Many late night shows anymore there, you know, there's like
Speaker 5: me be that Samby's you know no longer, and I
Speaker 5: don't know, it's it's a it's weird. I just know
Speaker 5: a lot of really really really funny late night writers
Speaker 5: who are out of work, and it's like I don't
Speaker 5: want to go against that guy.
Speaker 1: Guys beast you know, right, and they're hiring like three
Speaker 1: people first stuff that meets twelve right exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it's regular comedy club audiences really appreciate
Speaker 4: topical jokes too. It seems like, yeah, I've never even
Speaker 4: thought about that, but lately I've been trying to. You know,
Speaker 4: when you go to a town do that thing of
Speaker 4: like learning a little bit about them and coming up
Speaker 4: with jokes or a current event.
Speaker 2: They love it.
Speaker 4: That's why people used to come visit Austin and be like, Hey,
Speaker 4: what's the name of the strip club here?
Speaker 6: You have the top of your topical local strip clip jokes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just so they're mentioning the town. I'm not I
Speaker 4: guess I'm not saying that so much, but uh, there,
Speaker 4: did you appreciate currently said.
Speaker 5: Grigsby's room in Dayton, Ohio, where they had a like
Speaker 5: a sheet on the wall where it's like the look
Speaker 5: they had all the local things that you can insert into.
Speaker 2: Your Oh that's hilarious.
Speaker 6: That lives jokes. It is called Jimmy's.
Speaker 4: Okay, No, I couldn't. I'm a Wiley's guy. I can't
Speaker 4: when I'm in Dayton. That's so funny. There was like,
Speaker 4: oh that's.
Speaker 1: Great, that's actually really smart. It's like someone was like,
Speaker 1: I'm so sick of being asked this question, I might
Speaker 1: as well type it up.
Speaker 6: That lady was a genius.
Speaker 5: She also sold massive amounts of dildos after the show,
Speaker 5: like you're you had your merch, had your little T shirts,
Speaker 5: and then she had club dildos.
Speaker 2: Wait is that okay?
Speaker 6: I don't know why it's not open.
Speaker 2: Where they did they throw?
Speaker 4: I think the common game there was to throw the
Speaker 4: dildos down the hall and hit the refrigerator, or there
Speaker 4: was those swinging doors. Someone was telling me that there's
Speaker 4: a club where you throw dildo's regularly.
Speaker 6: That might have been a male comics only week, but
Speaker 6: when I was.
Speaker 1: That was for the boys. That was the boys game.
Speaker 5: That sounds like a fun game night throwing dilda's at
Speaker 5: a door aggressively.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I wasn't invited.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I forgot how we we got to this place
Speaker 5: of comedy club's stuper names.
Speaker 1: But being on the road, that what that that is
Speaker 1: the thing you're doing. I mean you you've done it
Speaker 1: long enough now where yeah, it must be enjoyable in
Speaker 1: that way where you have it in hand it's something
Speaker 1: that you do and do well or no, Yeah.
Speaker 6: It's fun. I mean you're also now you know, just
Speaker 6: have to fill the room, which is really stressful. And yep,
Speaker 6: I'm clearly not on TikTok enough, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: And that also like there are certain comics who like
Speaker 5: don't care that there's a pandemic and it's still happening
Speaker 5: and so and neither do their fans, and so they
Speaker 5: all come out and they'll crowd a room and.
Speaker 6: He knows who goes home with COVID and long COVID.
Speaker 5: But I also I kind of feel like I travel
Speaker 5: with air purefiers, and I kind of feel like people
Speaker 5: that like me or you know, might stay home, you know,
Speaker 5: just gets home acron me in and so that that
Speaker 5: makes it herd as well. It's just a time to
Speaker 5: be a live performer, had writer.
Speaker 4: So uh yeah, I wish I didn't have such a
Speaker 4: conscientious and compassionate crowd. They cared about each other, decent people, darned. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've thought about that a lot too.
Speaker 2: That's so funny.
Speaker 1: Well, and the sorry blossoms here and she's got some
Speaker 1: stuff to say quiet.
Speaker 5: I think Blossom was the name of one of the
Speaker 5: strippers at the Dayton Club.
Speaker 1: So fill that name in. I always use permission to
Speaker 1: use her name.
Speaker 5: Sure.
Speaker 1: Well, but then the one thing that you do have
Speaker 1: that is pandemic proof is your podcast.
Speaker 5: Sure right, Yes, that money making. Jack and I are
Speaker 5: printing money non stop. We you know, we don't have
Speaker 5: a theme really and we don't have guests, so we
Speaker 5: have a very limited appeal. But we do talk about
Speaker 5: comedy and specifically our weeks that we had just finished.
Speaker 5: You know, we'll just kind of, I guess drilled deep
Speaker 5: into that and then it goes off into.
Speaker 2: Hey, that's what we do. There's no Yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that a lot of people want.
Speaker 5: To hear that.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean between us, we've you know, I think she
Speaker 5: started like a year before me, so we've both been
Speaker 5: you know, working for a really long time. And I mean,
Speaker 5: Karen you probably know this too, Like they never let
Speaker 5: female comics work together, and in some places they still don't,
Speaker 5: judging by like the few female comics.
Speaker 6: The features I have worked with that are like crying
Speaker 6: because they're not being harassed. But so like I didn't know.
Speaker 5: Jackie for I guess the first twenty five years that
Speaker 5: we're both all the stand up, but she existed. You know,
Speaker 5: I see your picture on the wall, Karen Rontowski, you
Speaker 5: know don Wing. You know all those people, you see
Speaker 5: them on the wall. You're like, oh, I'm not the
Speaker 5: only woman. Yeah, but I am this in this quarter
Speaker 5: at this comedy club. As I look at the calendar,
Speaker 5: I'm this quarter's female comic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. They're going to roll the dice on
Speaker 1: your night.
Speaker 2: And I'm currently where and we'll finished.
Speaker 4: I had some hang ups while on vacation here, but
Speaker 4: I am going to finish your poster.
Speaker 6: Are Oh yes, cool. Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 4: It's going to look really cool. And I'm sorry I
Speaker 4: haven't finished it yet. There was I have a list
Speaker 4: of excuses.
Speaker 6: You had swimmers here.
Speaker 4: First of all, you can first and foremost prior to that,
Speaker 4: an irash and then a little.
Speaker 2: Laundry.
Speaker 1: Don't forget the hip surgery.
Speaker 2: There's I mean there's trauma from it being five years ago.
Speaker 6: And then there's just miss Tucky. That's very.
Speaker 2: Hard to take a nap, but it's working.
Speaker 6: You had a power through that.
Speaker 5: And then you're getting terrible advice from your manager who
Speaker 5: told you not to work at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I am my manager.
Speaker 1: Got wait, what kind of what? What kind of poster
Speaker 1: is it for your live show?
Speaker 5: Laurie, Yeah, because I I thought if I had a
Speaker 5: poster it would look cooler. And uh, everyone seems to
Speaker 5: have a tour poster, like they're calling not to sound
Speaker 5: sound old again, but to me, it was always roadwork,
Speaker 5: like you go on, you do a couple of weeks,
Speaker 5: they't come home. And now comics are and maybe this
Speaker 5: is a great marketing thing calling it a tour and
Speaker 5: they're naming their tour. Sure, you're naming your the weeks
Speaker 5: of work you got?
Speaker 6: Okay? Yeah, I know people love it.
Speaker 4: And when I say poster, I don't. I that's what
Speaker 4: I say, image to posts on digital socials.
Speaker 1: Well that's the difference, right, that's the differences when you
Speaker 1: when we all started, there was no social media, and
Speaker 1: now it's like everything is. It's almost like whether it's
Speaker 1: a tour, whether you're doing three shows in a row
Speaker 1: and going home, it's all just the presentation of you.
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to get on board with this, Laura
Speaker 1: kill Martin Comedy Train because check this shit out and
Speaker 1: like it really is, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: It will look someone else?
Speaker 4: Did you know people are going to see the drawing,
Speaker 4: not even care who they're Like, I love that art,
Speaker 4: so I'm going to go see stand up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like her aesthetics.
Speaker 2: I don't care about her.
Speaker 4: I bet she art directed on this drawing. I try
Speaker 4: to a d all my drawing you very much, did.
Speaker 4: It was very I had no questions after questions, no
Speaker 4: quips or questions about your list of details. It was
Speaker 4: very concise and it's gonna look great and I will
Speaker 4: have it done very soon. But yes, getting people to
Speaker 4: go to your shows, there's all these other things you
Speaker 4: have to worry about, because I too, am worried this
Speaker 4: weekend that I won't feel the seats and then I'll
Speaker 4: feel sad while I'm on stage just counting the empty
Speaker 4: seats and it's all TikTok, Like, yeah, I didn't. I
Speaker 4: thought TikTok a year ago was lip syncing and dancing,
Speaker 4: and now I'm realizing I've seen it affect so many
Speaker 4: comics careers that they're active on there and doing things
Speaker 4: every other day, and it's like, oh, I clearly need
Speaker 4: to pretend I'm young and post clips.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, yeah, stand up clips.
Speaker 5: But I think it's also if you can find something
Speaker 5: that's fun to do, you know, like like Otscouh kind
Speaker 5: of does this thing where she just lowers her ass
Speaker 5: really slowly and she like she's enjoying it and it
Speaker 5: doesn't look like a hassle and people love it and
Speaker 5: it's actually getting people to come to her stand up shows.
Speaker 2: It's blown my mind. And it does look like hassle though,
Speaker 2: looks like something that would hurt my knees. Well.
Speaker 1: Also, you know, it's like that thing of get it's
Speaker 1: basically a calling card where it's like her and her grandma,
Speaker 1: those videos are so great, Yeah, and it's almost it
Speaker 1: is that thing of like if you want to know
Speaker 1: who you're gonna go see, then that like it's masterful
Speaker 1: marketing in that way where she's like, this is kind
Speaker 1: of what I'm about. It's the same thing with it
Speaker 1: makes me think of Chris Fleming. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: also it's just about their fucking young and their hip
Speaker 1: and they know. But like you making these videos where
Speaker 1: it's basically you doing a two minute bit into a camera.
Speaker 1: But the way a lot of comics are these days,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not set up punch. It's like it's
Speaker 1: a it's like personality monologuing, yes, and then people are like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like this, I'm I'm into this. I just think
Speaker 1: people are kind of the younger comics that I see
Speaker 1: are also they're they're doing marketing, they're doing they're they're
Speaker 1: kind of mastering this idea, Whereas like I not only
Speaker 1: wouldn't have tried that hard, I wouldn't have put that
Speaker 1: effort in, but I also always that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: why aren't people doing it for me? Whereas like these
Speaker 1: are the these are like the millennials that like, you know,
Speaker 1: the economy bottomed out and they were like, I'll figure
Speaker 1: it out and I'll make my fucking way because I
Speaker 1: have to.
Speaker 2: Write during quarantine. People into that.
Speaker 1: Yah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 5: Like like like Conan has an incredible you know, social
Speaker 5: media presence, but he also has people that do the
Speaker 5: whole thing for him. And once you see that, you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: I can't do the job of fifteen people, right, guys.
Speaker 5: It really takes that many people to like you know,
Speaker 5: or not exactly, but it's takes a lot of people
Speaker 5: to really do it well and make it look good.
Speaker 5: And he doesn't really do much but be himself, and
Speaker 5: that's the dream and so that these younger comics are doing.
Speaker 6: All that stuff too. It's exhaust that's yeah, me very exhausting.
Speaker 4: And to be honest, the reason I have water in
Speaker 4: my ear is because I was trying to comedically. I
Speaker 4: realized when I fall off that hydrofoil thing, it was
Speaker 4: throwing me in the air, and I took video of
Speaker 4: it for TikTok, and I cartoonishly wanted to fall and
Speaker 4: that is I'm not kidding. That's why I have a
Speaker 4: lot of water in my air. It looks hilarious on
Speaker 4: my TikTok. Do you guys tune in to MA get
Speaker 4: water jammed?
Speaker 6: That's in seats?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: For real, you take that hit, You take that water
Speaker 1: right to the ear exactly?
Speaker 4: Does it translate to, hey, come watch me do stand up?
Speaker 4: I'm going to fall down into lakes of water on stage,
Speaker 4: I guess. But it shows my physical physical ability. Yeah, slapstick,
Speaker 4: and you're back. You're back from hip surgery.
Speaker 2: Now you're just the time to finally announce it after
Speaker 2: five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I'm comfortable saying I'm back from hip surgery.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Tested it out, I've used it. I know I'm good Now.
Speaker 4: When when is this tour that I'm doing a poster
Speaker 4: for and do you want to give away the concept
Speaker 4: or or what it's called.
Speaker 6: Is it called cis Woke Grief Slut.
Speaker 2: I don't believe that's what I shotted down.
Speaker 6: Oh, we should clarify that.
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, you guys have the meeting now, Well, I'll
Speaker 4: do the text later. I just had a funt picked out,
Speaker 4: but I just know the image.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, the tour started and it'll go for
Speaker 6: a couple more years. This this imagel until I get it.
Speaker 4: So this image, it's not so much tour as it
Speaker 4: is just your career that continues. Okay, well call it
Speaker 4: the poster tour because you'll have a poster during the
Speaker 4: part of it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm going to be at the Den in Chicago August thirteenth.
Speaker 5: I don't know if this will drop before then, but
Speaker 5: apparently I could really use some ticket sales, according to.
Speaker 1: The at the Den in Chicago.
Speaker 6: Yeah, according to the I guess the theater owner.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, that's why I'm talking.
Speaker 4: I got that text today, like we only have this
Speaker 4: number of tis and it's like, well, now I'm just
Speaker 4: going to worry about who I am as a person,
Speaker 4: because I don't know what to do about that.
Speaker 6: I know, I know, Chicago's so far away.
Speaker 2: Actually, you got to get a street team to get out.
Speaker 6: About two thousand miles from it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, wait, this will not be out before your
Speaker 1: Chicago show.
Speaker 6: Well, you guys missed a banger on.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I just want to say after the fact
Speaker 4: that my shows this weekend in Portland's you guys were
Speaker 4: great and I was funny.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Laurie.
Speaker 1: Is there anything that you have, like near the end
Speaker 1: of the month, just to give a little let's talk
Speaker 1: through some cities.
Speaker 5: Nineteenth and twentieth I met Laughs in Seattle, great, come
Speaker 5: on out for that, and then I'm home for a
Speaker 5: little bit, and then I'm in Toronto in September ooh,
Speaker 5: and then Milwaukee in October.
Speaker 6: At and then i met doctor Grinn's in Grand Rapids
Speaker 6: in December.
Speaker 1: Mark kellyers, So dinosaurs if you're going to call yourselves that,
Speaker 1: which I don't know, but if you want to go
Speaker 1: to a comedy club and watch a headliner that clearly
Speaker 1: knows how to do stand up comedy, Laurie Kilmartin is
Speaker 1: one of the best, truly like is known through is
Speaker 1: a comics comic, and I don't know, like you talk
Speaker 1: about stuff that really matters and is important, and you
Speaker 1: like you kind of like get the audience, but then
Speaker 1: you like let him off the hook, but then you
Speaker 1: put them back on the hook. Like you talk about
Speaker 1: important shit. You are your own person, you actually have
Speaker 1: real opinions. But everyone is still having a great time.
Speaker 1: I have never really seen anybody do that same thing
Speaker 1: that you do on stage. So I'm on our audience
Speaker 1: to understand that, Like, if you really want to go
Speaker 1: out and have a good time and watch a comic,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say a female comic, because god
Speaker 1: damn it, we're always like qualified and separated. A comic
Speaker 1: that knows what the fuck she's doing, it's Lori Kilmartin.
Speaker 1: So if you heard it in your city and any
Speaker 1: of those that just got mentioned, absolutely go and buy
Speaker 1: a ticket and support someone who absolutely deserves your support
Speaker 1: in that.
Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, thank you, Yes, thank you, of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you are one of the comics. When I am
Speaker 4: on a show with you, I always watch your set.
Speaker 4: I can't say that for a lot of even people
Speaker 4: I really like or think they're funny.
Speaker 2: I know they're material or they are not. I know
Speaker 2: they're not gonna do something new. I always watch your set.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I love you as well.
Speaker 2: You guys are That's what I was geniuses. I am
Speaker 2: your manager.
Speaker 5: I have I sell a book, and uh it's truly
Speaker 5: the worst merch idea ever is to have books heavy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's right. Oh ship them out or you
Speaker 1: take them with you. No, I take them with me.
Speaker 6: It's too expensive to ships.
Speaker 5: I just I usually do Southwest, So I get the
Speaker 5: two free bags and I just dislocate my shoulders as
Speaker 5: I'm dragging my bags to a condo, and then and
Speaker 5: then sell the thing.
Speaker 6: No one wants anymore a book.
Speaker 2: People want books.
Speaker 1: They're like, do you can I get this on Kindle?
Speaker 1: I understand that you've lifted it the whole time, but
Speaker 1: I want it to be more convenient for me.
Speaker 5: I don't think we're readers anymore. I'm having our time
Speaker 5: reading a book, you know, like it's it's hard to
Speaker 5: thank you. They focused.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I just did recently is I
Speaker 1: went on to the internet and I bought a bunch
Speaker 1: of books. Not that were like, what's the novel my
Speaker 1: friends are reading or what's you know, trendy or whatever.
Speaker 1: I literally picked books like they're almost like picture books,
Speaker 1: like ones about mudlarking, which is the people that go
Speaker 1: along the Thames River and find basically old shit. That's
Speaker 1: because it used to be a garbage can. There's stuff
Speaker 1: that's just laying along the river that's from the fifteen hundreds,
Speaker 1: the eighteen hundreds, and like, well yeah, but it's just
Speaker 1: kind of there. So it's like it's a book. It's
Speaker 1: hard to explain, but that's basically it. But this book
Speaker 1: is a book of a guy that it's his findings,
Speaker 1: so it's just pictures, but he's explaining like he found
Speaker 1: it and then he identified it, and so it's kind
Speaker 1: of like being a detectorist. But it's like just walking
Speaker 1: along the banks in these certain parts where they used
Speaker 1: to just throw you know, like in the I think
Speaker 1: it was seventeen hundreds, everybody used to smoke a pipe
Speaker 1: like and they were clay pipes and then when they
Speaker 1: broke or whatever, they just throw them into the water
Speaker 1: like they used to just use it as a garbage can.
Speaker 1: And so anyway, there's like so I wanted to get
Speaker 1: this book because I heard about it and I think
Speaker 1: Mudlarking is so fascinating. And then I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: going to get a bunch of other books like this
Speaker 1: that are basically like picture books and things that I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna have to like use my honor society brain
Speaker 1: to get into my head that I can just go
Speaker 1: to sleep looking at. So it's like one hundred great
Speaker 1: archaeological Finds of the twentieth century or whatever, like a
Speaker 1: bunch of shit that's kind of like there's some a
Speaker 1: couple paragraphs in there, but it's also a bunch of pictures. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then just like, have no shame about it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's right, I have shame anymore.
Speaker 1: There's no shame about anything.
Speaker 4: I just have shame about I'm only looking at my
Speaker 4: phone all the day time for entertainment and pictures.
Speaker 2: It's like, let me look at a book for God's sake.
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys, look at the nick please and make a
Speaker 5: final pitch and the tick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if you do anything this week, Yeah, The
Speaker 4: Witches of east Wick, it's not a movie where they
Speaker 4: all throw up cherry pits.
Speaker 2: Actually, don't watch that's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Well, but so if you can't watch which is of
Speaker 1: east Wick? Then clearly just watch John Wick one, two, three.
Speaker 2: Guys any that you'd come up with a new one
Speaker 2: which is a perfect way to And I knew it
Speaker 2: was there. I knew it was I just couldn't think
Speaker 2: of it. I knew Kevin Honor, Society Brain, Laurie.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this with us.
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry that I'm not ending it at an airport,
Speaker 5: but you know that's a different time.
Speaker 2: So are we.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a different it is a different COVID way.
Speaker 1: We'll get there, we'll get back someday.
Speaker 2: And I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have the most beautiful poster for my tour
Speaker 4: and tour and the tour will also be beautiful.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Chris.
Speaker 1: When you're done with that poster, we can post it
Speaker 1: on the dinar socials, so then it's see then it's
Speaker 1: acting as two things. It's a reference to the show
Speaker 1: people heard, perfect and it'll have dates on it, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 1: This is how we do it in the modern times,
Speaker 1: stand up comedy in modern days.
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